Gedeon Richter PLC (RICHTER) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 12, 2026

BUSE HU Health Care Pharmaceuticals earnings 41 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Robert Rethy

executive
#1

So good morning again, and a very warm welcome together Gedeon Richter's First Quarter 2026 Conference Call. My name is Robert Rethy, Head of Investor Relations and ESG, the company. And it's my pleasure to welcome 2 members of the senior leadership team with me today for this call, Laszlo Kovacs, Chief Financial Officer; and Tamas Szolyak, our Chief Commercial Officer. And the reason why Gabor is not with us, Gabor Orban, our CEO, is that he's on a business trip to Japan, meeting our partners in this important country. Before we start the meeting, let me just quickly walk you through the technical -- the usual technical details. We will be using presentation slides. This presentation is downloadable from our website, gedeonrichter.com. This is what we published this morning along with our results. The formal presentation will be followed by the usual Q&A where you will have an opportunity to ask questions either through raise your hand functionality of Microsoft Teams or in the chat box. And finally, just to remind you, this call is recorded. And also I want to draw your attention to the usual cautionary statement regarding potential forward-looking statements this presentation may include. And with that, let me hand it over to Laszlo, who will present the details of the last 3 months. Thank you.

Laszlo Kovacs

executive
#2

Thank you. Thank you, Robbie. The first quarter of 2026 was eventful and broadly in line with our expectations. The strong momentum continued across our innovative businesses, more notably, CNS supported by the sustained outstanding performance of Vraylar and by solid revenue contribution from Biotech segment. This was partially offset by a softer-than-planned start of the year in case of Women's Healthcare, which was largely driven by delivery timing effects. And in case of general medicines by multiple internal and external headwinds that affected our business. Despite the top line pressures, clean EBIT growth exceeded our initial expectations, supported by milestone income and the continuing benefits of our long-term cost management efforts. We once again reduced our operating cost base with the sole exception of cost of goods sold and delivered second highest free cash flow generation. Currency movements continued to weigh on our reported results, primarily impacting ROE and EPS figures, while at the same time, a visible improvement in Hungary's countries premium and bond yields started to emerge during the quarter. Okay. But what does it mean for the rest of the year and further ahead? Following this very eventful first quarter, we remain confident that we are on the right track to deliver our high single-digit revenue and clean EBIT growth target calculated on constant exchange rates for the full year 2026 and therefore, reiterate our guidance. You can see a clear gap between the reported figures and the constant exchange rate figure. That gap will be there. It's significant if you are talking about the clean EBIT figures. If the same FX rates would be fixed for the rest of the year, a difference of 7 to 8 percentage points between the reported figures and the CER figures could persist. Looking ahead, we are particularly excited about a number of important value drivers. These include the upcoming launch of Fylrevy. This is the first formal innovation in menopause for decades. The increasing contribution of our biosimilar portfolio, which may further narrow the gap to profitability in biotech and our continued progress in joint R&D projects together with AbbVie. These elements reinforce our confidence in the sustainability of our growth and profitability trajectory beyond 2026 supported by our exceptional free cash flow generation, HUF 77 billion in this quarter. We will begin distributing the dividends June, while we remain fully committed to identify and execute the most compelling acquisition opportunities in line with our long-term value creation strategy. Now in this quarter, let me share a few thoughts about everything that is beyond our financial performance because expanding the access to health remains a core part of our mission. In women's healthcare, we continue to strengthen our original research pipeline. We targeted acquisitions and partnerships while significantly expanding our early-stage research capabilities. A major milestone ahead is the launch of Fylrevy, which I just mentioned, which will be supported by patient awareness and very importantly, educational initiatives across multiple countries. Since the launch of Ryeqo, Ryeqo has reached approximately 100,000 patients in the treatment of endometriosis. This was helping many women avoid invasive surgery. This also reduced medical risk and these women could remain active in the workforce, and I think they can achieve a meaningful improvement in the quality of life. In CNS, our numbers are even more remarkable since only in 2025 alone, over 745,000 patients were treated in Europe and in the U.S. And since launch, this number goes beyond 2 million patients. This is extraordinary numbers. At the same time, our biotech and GenMed portfolio play a critical role in improving access to affordable therapies. Recent biosimilar approvals in Europe and in U.S. and the advancement of multiple clinical programs can further support the broader patient reach. And last but not least, let me also mention that beyond our normal commercial activities, we also continue to contribute to access in underserved regions, including the distribution of more than 5 million units of emergency contraceptions through NGO partnerships. I'll hand it over to you, Tamas.

Tamas Szolyak

executive
#3

Okay. Thank you very much, Laszlo. And I'd like to give an overview about the performance business unit by business unit. Our quarter 1 growth was broadly in line with our expectation, though overall performance remained a few percentage points below target. Our plans have already incorporated the impact of shipment rescheduling related to the transition to a new warehouse and certainly to ensure uninterrupted patient supply, part of our shipment was brought forward into Q4 2025, which had a negative carryover effect on quarter 1 2026 with this quarter. This timing effect impacted mostly 2 business units, women's healthcare and largely the General Medicine business unit. Keeping General Medicine business unit in the focus, additional external factors weighed on performance. First of all, the termination of an in-licensed product in 2025 with Sonaderm created an approximately 2 percentage revenue gap that had to be absorbed in Q1. Furthermore, several key assumptions did not materialize. The flu season proved weaker than anticipated and identified risk that unfortunately materialized as risk, resulting in an approximately 3.5 percentage point negative variance versus the prior year and significantly affecting our GenMed growth opportunity. In addition, a product which went undergone the event patient safety evaluation ultimately led to withdrawal of marketing authorization across all markets, basically, despite the strong scientific rationale to maintain restricted use in some major countries. In Uzbekistan, the introduction in this year, a new system. It is a reference pricing system combined with the INN prescription had a more pronounced market impact than expected anticipated by us, resulting in up to a further 2 percentage point headwind. Overall, these combined pressures outweighed the positive contribution from the therapeutic areas where our performance was good, blood and metabolic and the other therapeutic area, pain and neurology. And altogether, we had an 8% decline in the GenMed portfolio. Despite this decline, I'd like to highlight the performance in blood and metabolic therapeutic area. This continues to strengthen. Dabigatran, it maintains its leadership position across multiple markets. Edoxaban after Roche, it reached the #1 position in Hungary. In pain and urology, we are regaining the market share through focused promotional efforts and a sustained supply right now. Women Healthcare, core product performance remained strong. Key brands, including Ryeqo, including Evra, Drovelis and Lenzetto, continue to deliver solid momentum, reinforcing our commitment to improve women's quality of life. One important element was in the APAC region that we had a delay of emergency contraception delivery from Q2. Altogether, we are absolutely confident that the women healthcare business unit will deliver double-digit growth by year-end. Underlying effects, Ryeqo 60-plus percent growth in the Q1. Very important that we are treating continuously new patients. The patient pickup is very, very high for this product. Drovelis, 20-plus percent growth, gaining significant market share, a largely fat market. Preparations for Fylrevy launch are progressing very well. We have phased market entries starting in Q2. So the underlying effect tells us that we will have a very strong performance again in the women healthcare portfolio this year. CNS has delivered a strong performance, Vraylar achieving 90% year-on-year growth, driven by robust prescription demand in both bipolar disorder and adjunctive MDD our own market, when we are looking to those markets where we are present, sales grew by 33%. It was supported part -- in somewhat of a part reintegration of selected markets, which we took back from our partners. In the meantime, the partner sales, unfortunately declined, but this is purely due to the shipment timing, and it will recover by the end of the year. BBU growth had 2 major elements. One is the growth of the teriparatide franchise. The second one is the new product launches. Teriparatide achieved a 20% growth on the markets where we are managing the product altogether. And in the meantime, the partners had very, very strong performance as well. What we assume that this momentum persists in the near term for the partners, however, shipment volumes may moderate later in the year. Getting back to the new launches, it's important to see that they contributed nearly the same absolute growth as the teriparatide franchise. We have to very closely monitor the different market archetypes to maximize the potential because we do see that in some EU archetypes, market archetypes, the price challenge is very, very significant. Looking ahead, we expect a strong performance and a double-digit growth from our innovation pillar. And we anticipate that the biotech launches through the year and the teriparatide performance will offset the negative quarter 1 impact in GenMed, and we are expecting to deliver a solid single-digit growth. Here, we would focus mostly the reported revenues, which declined basically 1 percentage point. This was mainly driven by a very strong foreign exchange rate headwind. The gap between the reported and the constant exchange rate performance was around 7 percentage points, and we accept that this level will broadly persist throughout the whole year, just reinforcing the message of Laszlo. We might see some changes in it, but basically, this is our expectations for this year. What we have seen that the U.S. dollar has been weakening since the second quarter of last year, while the stronger Hungarian forint continues to impair our reported figures across all other currencies. If you're looking to performance in a geographical setup, we can see that Central and Eastern Europe performance had been mostly affected by the General Medicine business unit, what we detailed. In North America, we had a 4.4% growth. Altogether, this is almost entirely driven by the weakening U.S. dollar. APAC, we mentioned as well the Q1 important impact. What I would like to add to the expectations of this geographical area is that we rationalize our investment into this geographical area. We are focusing on lowering the investment and getting much better return, which will probably impact the expectation until year-end in revenue too. Overall, the currency movements weighed heavily on the reported revenues. What we have seen from the geographical trend that they remained very much consistent with our strategic focus. We do see that innovation is a key driver of our sales and growth across all regions. And I would like to add that our recent launches and the further market entries within the affordable pillar, the affordable portfolio will boost our growth rate in the strategic horizon. Thank you very much.

Laszlo Kovacs

executive
#4

On the operating cost side, we are increasingly seeing the tangible benefits of the efficiency measures and the structural improvements implemented over the recent years. In addition, foreign exchange trends provided support to operating expenses, partially offsetting the FX pressure we experienced on the gross margin level. Cost of sales as of the percentage of revenues increased in Q1 2026, driven by a combination of delivery timing, product mix effects and the impact of the strong Hungarian forint, which resulted in a gross margin of 67.6% for the period. These effects are largely mechanical and -- in nature, and they do not indicate any structural change in the underlying profitability of the business and some may partly reverse in the coming quarters. That is what we expect. Operating expenses managed -- were managed well overall, and they benefited from the long-term optimization efforts as well as FX movements, as I already mentioned. Total operating expenses declined by 7%. Out of this 9% decline was at sales and marketing costs, which was supported by streamlined activity levels in Asia and Pacific region, China, namely, while G&A expenses declined by 5%, which is a mix of FX effects and some of the efficiency measures that are in place for over a year now. R&D expenses also decreased by 5% year-on-year compared to the first quarter of 2025 and stood at around 10% of our overall revenues. This was mainly driven by a lower R&D spend following key portfolio milestones. This was more than offsetting the higher investment levels in women's healthcare. Looking ahead, R&D expenses may vary between quarters, reflecting the simultaneous programs and progression of multiple projects that we are advancing in the field of women's healthcare and CNS. As previously communicated during our last call at the end of February, restructuring costs are now reported outside of operating expenses. In Q1, these costs were just above HUF 1 billion. And as I mentioned, they were excluded from all the operating expenses. While the current impact is limited, restructuring costs may increase during the year, potentially reaching up to HUF 10 billion or approximately EUR 30 million as we roll out several cloud-based IT solutions during the year. If we focus on clean EBIT, overall, we delivered a very strong clean EBIT growth on constant exchange rate in Q1, which was up to 15%. At the same time, in the headwind, the reported figures are only 1.5% and the reported figure is HUF 69.7 billion in the first quarter. The profitability was further supported by milestone income in an amount of HUF 3.6 billion, mainly in biotech and in CNS compared to virtually no such income a year ago. CNS and biotech both delivered a significant year-on-year improvement in the clean EBIT with CNS remaining our largest earnings contributor for the period, driven by the outstanding performance of Vraylar. Let me also mention that we are very, very happy and proud that this is the second consecutive quarter when we report positive clean EBIT for Biotech. However, it's still not a steady state. We expect that to be reached by the end of next year. So positive might turn into negative for the rest of the year, but this is something that we expect. At the same time, clean EBIT in Women's Healthcare and in General Medicines came in below last year, primarily reflecting top line shortfalls. In Women's Healthcare, clean EBIT of HUF 9.4 billion was below the recent run rate due to shipment and timing effects that was just described by Tamas, a higher planned R&D and some adverse currency movements, while GenMed was impacted by weaker revenues and a lower gross profit contribution. If we move forward below the line, the good news is there's not much to be seen here. So the difference between the clean EBIT and the reported EBIT is not significant. The difference is only HUF 2.4 billion, and this includes the restructuring costs I just mentioned before, and we do not see any unusual items impacting our results. Maybe our cash flow generation is more interesting. Free cash flow amounted to HUF 77 billion. This is the second largest amount in a single quarter recorded in the history of Richter and represents 29% year-on-year increase. This strong performance was driven by higher operating cash flows and the absence of any material net working capital funding this quarter because net working capital was practically unchanged in Q1. This is a sharp contrast to what we had a year before that was HUF 18 billion additional investments in 2025. As a result, cash conversion days remained broadly stable compared to the previous quarter and improved somewhat year-on-year. Capital investiture activity was limited, and there is no material M&A transactions so far. The majority of free cash flow generated strengthened our net cash positions and further enhancing our financial flexibility and supporting our readiness to pursue value-accretive M&A opportunities going forward. The last slide I wanted to share some information is about R&D where you may see a few new indicators. So R&D remains a central pillar of our long-term strategy. We continue to advance our own proprietary CNS program, including compound 202 by making further progress in our collaboration with ABBV and on programs 932 and 691. And also, we have some preclinical activities. At the same time, our recent Women's Healthcare acquisitions added 5 new preclinical programs, further strengthening our internal innovation pipeline. Together, these efforts reflect our commitment to building a balanced R&D portfolio that combines disciplined internal development with high-quality external partnerships. So that would be the summary from our side, and I'm handing back to you Robbie.

Robert Rethy

executive
#5

Thank you very much, Laszlo and Tamas. This concludes the formal part of the presentation. And now we are happy to take your questions. As I mentioned, either raise your hands through the Teams platform or put it in the chat box. And we already have a few questions in the chat box from Lukasz, actually 2 in CNS, 1 in Bio. I don't know who Laszlo, do you want to start?

Operator

operator
#6

Yes, the milestone yes.

Christopher Halpin

executive
#7

In CNS, what was the milestone? And the second question is when we expect the Phase II results from the Gedeon.

Laszlo Kovacs

executive
#8

Can we name the actual project with CNS?

Robert Rethy

executive
#9

I think we need to.

Laszlo Kovacs

executive
#10

Okay, anyway. So we had a project before which we sold a few years ago. And in the agreement -- so it's not with AbbVie, right? This CNS milestone is nothing to do with AbbVie. We sold the project years ago, and there was a milestone that was triggered when the first dosage was injected into the first human in the Phase III trials that happened at the very beginning of the year, so recorded a milestone. And in terms of biotech or biosimilars, it's with regards to our U.S. market entry. If you just check it, it cannot be anything else, but denosumab. So that are the 2 milestones that appear here. And is the bio R&D sustainable? I think it is. So it's a deliberate decision. We were building a portfolio. Now that portfolio is out on the market or will be out in the market very soon, we are ready to bring it to the market. If we find other partners, then we might increase our R&D spending. But for the moment, it seems to be a normal run rate.

Tamas Szolyak

executive
#11

And may I add one thought, which is very important that the expectations towards the biosimilar development are rather changing from the authority's perspective, which is in itself decreasing the cost. So it's very important. We need to invest less for clinical trials and probably somewhat more for how we are building up the project itself, more focused on quality. It in itself decreases the price and the cost pressure on the biotech development. And certainly, we already have the plans, which are the candidates for the future as well.

Robert Rethy

executive
#12

And answering the question on Phase II results from the second indication of 932 the GAD, the study is still running, and we expect top line data first half 2027, so next year. Bram, next question comes from Bram Buring.

Barry Diller

executive
#13

A couple of smaller things, please. First of all, in general medicine, could you repeat for me, please, how much the switchovers from the -- to the new warehouse, how much they impacted those sales in this quarter? That's the first question. The second question is, are there any generic launches in '26 that should significantly change the recent trajectory of sales in that segment? And thirdly, if you -- okay, you have now milestone data coming from various different areas. Could you perhaps sum up what you think you might, in total, record on milestone earnings or milestone payments for the full year? Second question. And then the last question is to do with the accounting treatment of the amortization of the new CRS system -- CRM system. Can you tell me exactly -- you said it wasn't impacting the operating results, but could you show me or explain to me where exactly I should be seeing it? That's all.

Tamas Szolyak

executive
#14

Okay. Maybe I'll start with -- I'll come with the GenMed. The first impact, when we look to this impact together, the women healthcare and the GenMed portfolio, it was 3% to 5% on the different portfolios. Actually, this is what we've seen that we would have been able to overcome if we would not have the other impacts, what I've detailed. Without the other impacts, we actually would have seen a bit differently. However, it was absolutely necessary to do in order to ensure a continuous supply in the big markets.

Robert Rethy

executive
#15

The second I -- the launches -- any expected launches for GenMed. I think it's...

Tamas Szolyak

executive
#16

We have quite many, especially in the blood and metabolic arena where we are focusing. Right now, we have altogether 41 launches in different countries. We are following up the Apixaban opportunity, Edoxaban opportunity, [indiscernible], Dimethyl Fumarate and so on. So there's a lot going on. The number of launches around the same as what we had in the last year, different markets, certainly altogether.

Robert Rethy

executive
#17

Okay. Maybe I will continue with a technical question. I could talk hours about this because by education, I'm still an auditor. So the accounting treatment brand is in the past, all these programs before there was this huge cloud-based approach of the IT providers, it was all capitalized costs. So it was on your balance sheet and there was an amortization. Now it's different. Since we have some tricky IFRS standards, on licensing, IFRS 16 to be more exact, you need to record these costs in your P&L. So it is just in contrast what used to be in the past. And whenever we pay those costs, they appear in our P&L. So instead of recording to the balance sheet and accounting for amortization, we directly put them to the P&L. And what we do here is just following all the IFRS benchmarks and also the pharma benchmarks. So whoever has a big IT-based program, they just make an adjustment to the clean figures. That is all happening. For example, the warehouse situation that was also driven by a cloud-based IT solution that was implemented, and this is actually happening. That's why you can see around HUF 1 billion for that are now between the reported clean EBIT -- reported EBIT figure and the clean EBIT figure. I hope I was able to explain the technical details. And milestone earnings for the year, probably, I think we do not expect anything significant for the rest of the year.

Christopher Halpin

executive
#18

We are not aware of anything major coming in our way. But it's something we will let you know. Next question again from Lukasz. Are you looking at potential entry in GLP-1 analog generics? We are -- we have different ongoing discussions and cooperations and all the signed deals as well. We are preparing ourselves very well for this opportunity, looking on different geographical entry options as well with these new entries.

Tamas Szolyak

executive
#19

We publicly announced that was last year that, that was the generics for Europe, but that was a broader cooperation -- co-development agreement with AO and there are other similar development or co-development agreements we are working on.

Christopher Halpin

executive
#20

Yes. I don't see any other questions. So Darius...

Darius Saftoiu

analyst
#21

Can you hear me?

Robert Rethy

executive
#22

Yes.

Darius Saftoiu

analyst
#23

Yes. I wanted to ask on the comment on the FX for the year. When you reiterated guidance now for the year, you mentioned that if the FX would be the same for the rest of the year, we should expect a similar impact of 7% for the full year. but I've noticed that the presentation was saying 5%, similar to what you've announced at the FY results. So I wanted to ask a comment on that given that the Q1 had the largest USD impact.

Tamas Szolyak

executive
#24

Please. So that was a quarter ago at the then prevailing exchange rate, we anticipated approximately 5 percentage point FX headwind. This is now revised to 7% to 8% full year impact in terms of reported financials. So we reiterated our constant exchange rate guidance, high single-digit growth in both revenues and clean EBIT. And now what we anticipate, again, now the currently prevailing exchange rates, assuming they hold for the rest of the year, which is clearly not going to be the case. But based on these exchange rates, now the full year FX headwind is at revenue at around 7 to 8 percentage points.

Robert Rethy

executive
#25

We have a question. I don't know how you're going to proceed and Darius, anything else? Next question from Gabor Bukta. We can't hear you, Gabor. Probably you are muted like we were.

Gabor Bukta

analyst
#26

Yes, I'm sorry. So my question is, if I understand correctly, restructuring costs could exceed HUF 10 million for this year. Does it mean that cost of EUR 7 million, EUR 8 million will rise per quarter? Or what is the run rate going forward?

Tamas Szolyak

executive
#27

I think it's a bit of a hockey stick. So the second part of the year could be higher. So it's not a normally distributed, not a linear distribution, of course, rather in the last part of the year. As we roll out all these projects, it takes time.

Robert Rethy

executive
#28

Thank you. And there are a couple of more questions in the chat box. The first one is, can I take that -- what chance we see 932 moving into Phase III in bipolar depression, we've never given and we don't want to give probabilities for any clinical developments. But what we can say that the top line data, what we commented on didn't materially change our assessment of the success -- potential success of the projects. And currently, we are together with AbbVie evaluating the data and deciding on the next steps. And the breakdown of new product revenues in biosimilars, we don't want to break it down to individual products at this stage. We may do so at a later stage, but clearly, it's driven by denosumab, but also some tocilizumab sales already recorded because we sold to our Japanese partner, Mochida, some products ahead of their launch in their own market. Denosumab was the process indication mainly, if you go into more details. Yes. I don't see any other questions in the chat box. So just perhaps as a final call, if anyone wants to ask yes. Darius?

Darius Saftoiu

analyst
#29

On Women's Healthcare, the impact from the warehouse transition in Q4, I wanted to ask if you can provide some color on the customer inventory buildout in Q4. Was that in line with like a quarter impact this year? Or should we expect more impact from higher inventory buildout in Q4 with the customers last year?

Laszlo Kovacs

executive
#30

We do not expect a higher change regarding this year. This was on a quarterly basis, not more than 3% altogether, the women healthcare business unit had the lower impact. The General Medicine had a somewhat higher impact. This was around the range. We do not see that this will have any further impact on the business unit. We need to note as well that the APAC delivery of emergency contraceptive had a significantly higher impact on the numbers due to the size and the rare shipment schedule to this region.

Robert Rethy

executive
#31

Next question should come from [indiscernible].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#32

My question is regarding the women healthcare R&D spending. So I would like to know if the R&D spending will stabilize at these higher levels that we currently see in the first quarter? And also another question regarding the Fylrevy EU marketing authorization that what is the expected time line for commercial launch? And when should we see the first meaningful revenue contribution from it?

Laszlo Kovacs

executive
#33

Okay. With the R&D spendings, we estimated a run rate at around EUR 20 million, EUR 25 million per quarter. We are just at that rate. So it was the same rate for Q4 and Q1. This is the normal run rate. It might change. So we were successfully securing 2 deals in the first quarter, Celmatix and FimmCyte. And you could have seen that now we have 5 new preclinical programs. So if we put some more efforts that it may increase. But as for now, this is the normal run rate. With Fylrevy, I think I hand over to Tamas will start in the summer.

Tamas Szolyak

executive
#34

Q2 with one country first, it depends on certainly the country specific its reimbursement system and so on. And step by step, we first launch in Central European countries due to the fact that it's an easier market access option, and then we will move into the bigger market. So relevant sales. I would say that Q4, hopefully, we can speak about it already, what are the first impressions, but this will be mostly the next year where we will see the significant uptake from the market.

Robert Rethy

executive
#35

Thank you very much. Next follow-up question from Gabor.

Gabor Bukta

analyst
#36

Yes, absolutely a follow-up. So what would you be satisfied with the sales of Fylrevy next year? Is there any early prediction?

Tamas Szolyak

executive
#37

We have predictions longer term, actually. What we assessed is more the peak sales. With the peak sales expectations, we have quite significant growth to reecho opportunities what we see altogether. I would not give, if you don't mind, guesses for the next year because we need to see that our market strategy, what we are putting together right now, how we resonate on the market. However, looking on the market potential in menopause, the changing acceptation of hormonal therapy by the physicians, the prescribers as well by the society provide us a very bright opportunity with this product.

Robert Rethy

executive
#38

We're still planning to have a specific women healthcare-related event at some point later Q2 or Q3, where we're going to provide a bit more granularity behind this opportunity and our key products. So please bear with us, I mean, at some point later this year, you're going to have more details on this. All right. So let's move back to Bram, another question or a follow-up.

Bram Buring

analyst
#39

Yes. Just another follow-up. I caught something in the beginning of the presentation regarding withdrawal of a marketing authorization. And I didn't catch what drug, what segment and if it's material or not.

Tamas Szolyak

executive
#40

It's not a major product for us. It's levamisole. It's a parasite infection treatment. Still, if you look to the quarter, it had a significant impact because we suddenly lose the total sales as well. In some markets, the patient level recall had been induced. So that's why we mentioned it from the year that will be diminished as impact. So it was generics. Generics.

Robert Rethy

executive
#41

Generics. Another -- yes. Question around partnering out-license [indiscernible]. We are working on it. We are working on it. It's a priority, and we will come back to you with results and information to be shared whenever we are ready. So it's a priority, and we will come back to you as soon as we are there. Yes. I think we again run out of questions. So unless anyone else has anything to ask, then I would like to thank you very much for being with us today, also for the many questions and the very interactive Q&A session. If there's anything else left unanswered, then just reach out to Investor Relations as in the past. Otherwise, we will see you in 3 months' time. Thank you very much. Have a great day. Bye-bye. Thank you. Thank you. Bye-bye.

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