Hitachi Energy India Limited (POWERINDIA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 7, 2026
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Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to Hitachi Energy India Limited Q1 FY '27 Analyst Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. Please note, this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Ms. Priyanka Bhagat, Head, Investor Relations, Hitachi Energy India Limited. Thank you, and over to you, ma'am.
Priyanka Bhagat
executiveGood evening, everyone. Thank you for joining us today for the Quarter 1 Financial Year '27 Earnings Conference Call of Hitachi Energy India Limited. We appreciate your continued interest in our company and value the opportunity to engage with you as we discuss are performing for the quarter. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that certain statements made during this call may constitute forward-looking statements. These statements are based on current expectations and subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied. With that, it is my pleasure to invite Mr. N. Venu, Managing Director and CEO of Hitachi Energy India Limited to share his insights. Over to you, sir.
Venu Nuguri
executiveThank you, Priyanka. Good evening, everyone, and thank you very much for joining Hitachi Energy India's Quarter 1 FY '27 Earnings Conference Call. So we have just announced our quarter 1 FY '27 results, and I hope all of you got the opportunity to go through the same. So in the next 20, 25 minutes, I want you to our performance for the period ending June 30, 2026. As always, we follow the presentation to the webcast or downloaded from the stock exchange for use of reference, I will refer to slide numbers. Today, in this room, I'm joined by our CFO, Ajay Singh; and Poovanna Ammatanda, the General Counsel and Company Secretary of Hitachi Energy India. I'm Pleased to share that we have started the financial year, 37%, a very strong note, generating a very robust growth in outer orders and revenues. Our Q1 FY '27 performance reflects our continued focus on operational excellence and execution of the project our order backlog in a disciplined way, enabling us to effectively convert our strong order backlog into revenue growth. As part of our commitment to strengthen execution capabilities and building a more resilient supply chain. We began constructing our Hitachi Energies manufacturing facility in Karjat, Vadodara in June 2026. This investment reinforces our commitment to India's energy transition, energy security and the government's vision of Make in India. So despite geopolitical challenges that the country continues to deal with the underlying fundamentals of our business remain exceptionally strong. India continues to witness unpresented in as plant in transmission infratructure, renewable energy integration, renewable energy renewable energy, deployment, modernization and resilience and organization and different infrastructure. The long-term structural driver continue to create a significant and sustainable growth opportunities for our industry. Our strong order backlog, combined with a healthy bidding pipeline provides good visibility for future revenue growth. More importantly, we remain focused on execution, disciplined profitable growth and delivering value to all of our stakeholders, supporting the continued energy security aspiration. With that note, let me now take you over the presentation, and I'm now moving to Slide #3. Our license to operate safety, which is our license to operate. As you all know, safety remains fundamental to our license to operate. We continue to embed best-in-class safety practices across our factories, project side, offices. During the quarter, we conducted more than 450 life-saving rules inspections, more than 850 observation tools, enabling us to close all high-risk of that identified during the period. In parallel, we continue to implement health and safety programs and training initiatives across our facilities to further strengthen our safety culture. So these efforts, we remain focused on achieving a recordable injury frequency rate of 0.09. So moving to the Slide #4, which is very, very important to us, the ESG targets and action plan sustainability remains central to our strategy with a strong focus on decarbonizing our operations as reflected in the table. We expect to achieve most of our 2030 September targets by end of this financial year with the exception of our water and diversary goals, which will go up to year or more so, but much before our 2030 stated targets. During the year, we achieved a 16% reduction in freshwater usage compared to the 2019 baseline through recycling initiatives and the deployment of water-efficient fixtures. We are confident that achieving our 2030 water target remains well within reach. Notably, our Halol facility and the water positive index certificated last quarter, underscoring our commitment to responsible water teaching. We also made meaningful progress in governance and social impact. Our gender diversity is more to 10%, reinforcing our commitment to building a more inclusive workplace. We are targeting further improvement of 3 to 4 percentage points by 2030. At the same time, we continue to uphold an uncompromising commitment to integrity with a 0 incident recorded during the year. Our sustainability progress is closely aligned with the broader energy transition and India's commitment at COV '26. I move to [indiscernible] 5. India's electricity demand is expected to grow strongly over the coming years and also coming decades. In parallel, the power grid is becoming increasingly complex with a high low densities rising reliability requirements and emerging demand drivers such as enabled world enable data centers. This is resulting in significant investments across transmission, distribution and consumption and also broader grid infrastructure. Our addressable market continues to present significant opportunities, and we see a strong momentum in renewable energy, transmission investments to integrate non-fossil fuel capacity, increasing investments in data centers and accelerating adoption of electrical vehicles to just name a few. Overall, these trends reinforce our confidence in multiyear growth opportunity for our portfolio, whether it's the product systems, services and software at Hitachi Energy. We are thoughtfully at the forefront of India's energy transition -- we recognize the responsibility that comes with this role and remain committed to enabling a more reliable, resilient and system energy future for execution excellence, technology leadership and strategic investments in capacity and capabilities. I'll move to Slide #6. As you can see our performance against this backdrop, we secured orders of INR 5,096.5 crores during the quarter 1. And Q1 last year, Q1 included a lot HVDC just to provide a more meaningful comparison of our underlying performance. We have also presented our growth, excluding HBDC for the current quarter. On a comparable basis, order intake in Q1 increased by 26.1% on a year-on basis, and 39% on a quarter-on-quarter. This growth was driven by several notable wins across key sectors. Among which, I would like to significantly highlight Hitachi Energy India first, the battery energy toresystem project, a 2-gigawatt wind power evacuation project in Europe, part of the 2 gigawatt wind power question project. and supplier GIS IV solutions for 100 gigawatt solar park investor in India. In addition, we secured multiple data center orders from the hyperscalers during the quarter, a notable project amount, this is 42.5 mva data center project in Hyderabad awarded by a leading Indian multinational covenant. As a result, we closed the quarter with an order backlog of INR 32,242.1 crores, representing strong highest order backlog -- higher order backlog ever and also strong double-digit growth compared to the Q1 FY '26, providing revenue visibility for the coming quarters. We won several projects in the renewable sector, in industries data center I've already talked about and also exports. If I move to Slide #7. The first order, the key order wins during this year. The first order supports the acceleration of Europe grid expansion and Lamar initiatives comprising several projects that will enable the transmission of clean power. As part of this program, Hitachi Energy India will collaborate on 3 key transmission links. And these 3 links will deliver 6 gigawatt of fleet electricity to the grid, and we will be supplying and also both products as well as a services partly to our customers. The second project marks a major milestone for Hitachi LSG in India. It's a 165-megawatt, 317 megawatt bakery store system project AP reflecting a strong validation of our capabilities in big integration for quality and advanced energy solution. If you recall our Investors Day in Mumbai and we talked about entering into the new segments, Battery Energy storage is one subsegment where we are very successful in securing the first order in the quarter ended this now. The third project is a significant data set or related order for a new cooling station and main pool in station comprising of 56 days of at 12.5% above that. And the project will support 100 gigawatt of solar park in Western India, highlighting our expertise in delivering large-scale transmission infrastructure enable industry integration emerging digital infrastructure in that. And if I go to the next slide, we will discuss the projects what we executed during the quarter. As a technology leader, we remain committed to enhancing grid reliability through timely execution and high-quality project delivery. During the quarter, we achieved significant progress in several strategic projects. I'd like to highlight a few notable milestones. The gas and [indiscernible] substation project for an iron ore processing plant in Chattisgarh and the second 1 is 220k,re-based aligned with at systems at Damanjodi, Odissa and the 220 project in Mumbai, Maharashtra and the last 1 you know very well. This is a 1,000-megawatt crudes RDCsisont project in Mumbai, in Maharastra. These projects underscore our strong execution capabilities across diverse industry segments and geographies. Our comprehensive scope of work as the entire project life cycle including design, engineering, manufacturing, supply, erection, testing and end-to-end commissioning. This integrated approach enables us to deliver high-quality, reliable solutions while addressing the evolving needs of our customers and supporting the modernization of the power grid. Beyond project delivery, we continue to invest in Katamati building innovation and industry leadership to support long-term growth, which we're going to discuss in the next slide. Slide # -- I move to Slide #9. The energy sector, you all know is at the forefront of the ongoing transformation of the global economy and especially also in Indian economy, making it imperative for Hitachi Energy to continuously adapt to this evolving landscape. Engagement that industry programs, conferences, in knowledge sharing platforms provide valuable insights and fresh perspectives. Keeping us ahead of emerging trends and accelerate the execution of our strategic priorities. During this quarter, we actively contributed to talent development innovation and industry thought leadership to several key initiatives. Some of them are Hitachi Energy, the tech center and our Baroda train, several executives from Bhutan Green Power Corporation. And the next one is in a partnership with NIT Warangal, Hitachi Energy hosted Innom3.0, bringing together more than 140 participants across 28 teams to develop AI ML powered digital in solutions for the energy sector. And the third 1 is at Elk Tomas Plaga Vitaeris giant industry leaders to discuss India's growing global influence and opportunities emerging from its accelerating energy transition smart grid expansions and manufacturing growth. These initiatives reflect our commitment to building industry capabilities fostering innovation and strengthening our leadership position in shaping a more sustainable, resilient and digitally enabled energy future. I move to Slide # 10, give you a little bit more color on our order growth. Our order growth in the domestic market during the quarter was driven by strong momentum across industry, industries, data centers and the renewable segment. The chart on the right highlights the order mix. From a business segment perspective, product orders images the largest contribution FY '27. From an end market perspective, the order book remains well diversified with contribution broadly distributed at our sectors. Looking at our customer channels, the quarter witnessed strong contributions from EPC contractors and OEM customers, reflecting the breadth of our market presence and strength of our customer relationship. Overall, the order intake demonstrates continued demand for our technology portfolio. Moving to the Slide 11 to further strengthen our execution capabilities -- we began constructing Hitachi Energy India's 20th manufacturing facility in Karjan, Vadodara in June 2026. This investment underscores our commitment to supporting India energy transition enhancing energy security and advancing government Make in India initiative. The new facility is being designed as a fully digital and smart manufacturing unit, leveraging advanced technologies to enhance quality, productivity and operational performance. With a targeted commissioning date of the -- the last quarter of the fiscal year -- calendar year 2028. Capacity will play a key role in expanding our manufacturing footprint entering local capacities and supporting the growing demand for systems engine structure in India and global markets. Overall, our strong order intake helps the backlog successful execution and continued investment in future capacity position us well for a sustained growth. So with that, I will hand over to Ajay to take you through the next 2 slides. Over to you, Ajay.
Ajay Singh
executiveThank you, Venu, and good evening, everyone. So let me take you through the financial performance a little bit in detail for quarter 1. So if you see orders, we had clicked INR 5,096 crores. And if I compare from quarter-on-quarter. We have grown by 110%. But just to compare without HVDC if you remove them, you see we have grown Y-on-Y 26% and quarter-on-quarter, 39%. So this gives a more robust growth in this particular quarter. revenue from operations weekly INR 2,493 crores, and we have grown by 68% from a Y-o-y basis. And that also supported in growth of the profit before tax. So profit before tax, if you see, we have grown by 120%, 39.5 crores, that is 15.6% if you compare year-basis, [indiscernible] 10%. Frofit after tax, we reached 11.8%, which was earlier, it was 8.9%. And if you see operational EBITDA, we were INR 399 crores, which is compared to what we did in the antis 11.5%. So it is important to note that this EBITDA performance includes an unrealized foreign exchange loss of INR 36.37 crores which is recorded in this quarter. If I come to the next slide, a little bit -- give you more details. You see if we have a revenue for operation 293 and we had other income of roughly INR 57 crores, which includes the interest income that we have settled our deposits that we have set. Margins -- gross margin is fairly consistent. I say 40% particular quarter personnel expenses around 6.5% and other expenses, 17%, which would compare from a Y-o-Y basis, which was a 2.5% Exchange loss is INR 60 crores, which is basically notional in nature. And depreciation has increased compared to the previous quarter, and basically, we are doing CapEx around our -- for the capacity expansion. -- finance cost remains consistent, and that is how we can see overall profit before tax is 15.6% and profit after tax is 11.8%. Over to you, Venu.
Venu Nuguri
executiveThank you, Ajay. And ladies and gentlemen, our Q1 FY 2017 demonstrates the strength of our strong go-to-market strategy, our business model and the effectiveness of our execution strategy. We delivered strong growth in orders, revenue and profitability will continue to invest for the future through capacity expansion technology, leadership and talent development. Our record order backlog and healthy bidding pipeline provides strong visibility for growth, and we remain focused on calculating these opportunities into discipline and sustainable value strengthening our core business, renewables, HVDC, industries and infrastructure, while ensuring the continuity and resilience of our installed base to the service business -- at the same time, we remain committed to effectively executing our strong backlog enhancing productivity and maintaining the highest standards of quality and customer satisfaction. We are also well positioned to capitalize on emerging growth opportunities, particularly in the Mat energy storage system, renewable integration, data centers, did modernization where demand fundamentals remain highly encouraging. Looking ahead, we'll continue to invest in our people, technology, manufacturing capacity and operational capabilities to support long-term sustainable growth. Backed by strong market fundamentals, a robust order pipeline and our differentiated technology portfolio, we remain confident in our ability to create long-term value for all of our stakeholders while contributing to more resilient, secure and sustainable energy future. So thank you very much for listening to me. And now we open the floor for question and answers. Thank you very much.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from the line of Amit Anwani with PL Capital.
Amit Anwani
analystCongrats for the very strong set of numbers. First question pertains to the 2 gigawatt tenant order in Europe. So what's the quantum of that order, which is there in the INR 5,000 crore book order inflow? And second, are we expecting more orders as we understand, there's a joint venture for at least 4 or 5 others with L&T globally by Hitachi Energy. So are we expecting more such orders in the coming time?
Venu Nuguri
executiveYes. So right at this point in time, it is a combination of 3 orders, okay? And we do look more of services and also supporting from here, and it's approximately around INR 1,700 crores.
Amit Anwani
analystUnderstood. And yes. And second, sir, I wanted to understand, you highlighted about battery energy storage on the strong pipeline side, battery energy storage and data centers. So on battery energy storage, I wanted to understand, will you be primarily focusing on the domestic market for BSS as of now or there's an export opportunity. And second, where do we stand in terms of BSS probably are we expecting orders this year, if you can highlight more on the BSS side.
Venu Nuguri
executiveAs you know very well, the domestic -- the battery energy storage, we have quite a strong robust requirements. And there is also mandated that every renewable energy needs to have a mandatory energy today. So all those things are driving the huge amount of growth opportunities, domestic. Right now, our focus is to supply for the domestic market. In the domestic market itself is a huge requirement. We have just started. So we will be doing -- as you know, there's a new technology. We've got to be very -- we are the first ensure that this technology is deployed, and then we will do the scale it up so that pipeline is quite robust.
Amit Anwani
analystRight. Sir, lastly, how -- if you could share the export contribution in order inflows and revenues.
Ajay Singh
executiveSo export contribution on the revenues is ballpark around 25%. So that is the run rate we are seeing at the moment.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from the line of Shirom Kapur with Jefferies.
Shirom Kapur
analystMy first question is on your margins. So while, of course, your operating EBITDA margins have improved very well Y-o-Y. But on the gross margin side, there seems to have been a contraction of over 350 basis points. So if you could comment on that, what has driven this cross margin contraction? Is it a function of mix or maybe the commodity costs where we have not been able to pass through the entire commodity inflation. Could you give a bit more color on that?
Ajay Singh
executiveSo we are talking about the gross margin. I see the gross margin compared to the previous quarter it is improved in my view.
Shirom Kapur
analystActually, year-on-year, sir, that's what my question was on a year-on-year basis.
Ajay Singh
executiveSo on year-on-year basis, I think we are talking only 0.2, 0.3 basis points, right? -- on even talk about year one, I think basically there also I see an improvement, not contraction in the gross margin.
Shirom Kapur
analystOkay. I mean I can check on that and come back. But okay, y second question is on the best side. So you, of course, highlighted you won your first order on BES. Could you elaborate on what exactly our offering is here and best, who is the competition? What are the kind of products that we're offering? And is the margin profile here similar or better versus the rest of the business?
Venu Nuguri
executiveNo, I think this is the -- what we are talking about is the battery energy storage is everything. -- it's more of a modular and scalable questions, what we have we have unveiled during our investors' time in versus the thing. And it doesn't include the batteries. So normally, we don't pull batteries into that because that is we design what kind of batches required the customers will place the batteries on that in that. So right now, the margin profile is, as you know, this technology, you need to get mature. We need to also do a lot of localization. So over a period of time, this market also will become similar to the margins, what we have with that. But the key is that we had -- this is a scalable version where easy to fit, easy to do that, and there's a lot of revenue potential going forward on that because we do a lot of digital layer on to that, so that be able to monitor and provide the digital services going forward in that. So it will be -- as I said, we got the first order. So we got to execute, we've got to also look at what are the things, and it's the end-to-end we offer to our customers, excluding the batteries, but integrating the battery into the software of battery management is also part of our solutions.
Ajay Singh
executiveJust for the earlier question, when we see at the year end, there is more or less some gross margin is same. But when you compare with the same period, yes, there is some contraction, but that is mainly because of the product mix that we have executed. So this more dependent upon the product mix.
Shirom Kapur
analystGot it, sir. Just lastly, on just a bookkeeping question on your order flow. So you mentioned that year-on-year, excluding HVDC orders, we saw a 26% growth -- just to clarify, in your second quarter presentation last year, you had mentioned that versus the first quarter last year, you had seen 28% growth in your order flow. So that number implies you did about INR 2,200 crores in the second quarter last year orders. So that would imply about INR 1,700 crores ex-HVDC orders in the first quarter. But here, if we look at your first quarter this year, out of 5,000, if we exclude the 1,700, you've done about INR 3,300 crores of orders. So that seems to be more than a 26% increase, sorry, also the
Venu Nuguri
executiveWe remove the HVDC -- when we compare the remote from both sides. We remove HVDC from that quarter and remove HVDC from that quarter.
Shirom Kapur
analystThat's -- so just to understand if we take the 26% year-on-year growth. So that means whatever number we get for the first quarter last year, that would be the ex-HPDC number, which means that the balancing would be the HVDC order in the first quarter of last year? Would that be the correct understanding?
Venu Nuguri
executiveMore or less, yes.
Operator
operatorOur next question is from the line of Parikshit Kandpal with HDFC Securities.
Parikshit Kandpal
analystCongratulations on a great quarter and a strong order inflow. So my first question is if I remove this HBDC order of INR 1,700 for balance is about 3. So out of that, how much is the base order, I mean more regular base orders, I mean excluding the data center in the best order?
Venu Nuguri
executiveMost of them are in base orders. We don't have any major launch orders in this quarter -- all our -- it's a good strong thing from the data center this quarter.
Parikshit Kandpal
analystSo the data center would be a large order, right? I mean almost INR 400 crores to INR 500 crores, and I think BES will be even....
Venu Nuguri
executiveThe multiple orders, not 1 order. It's a data center, multiple orders we have.
Parikshit Kandpal
analystOkay. Okay. And this best you are doing, is it for the utility-grade customer? Or is it a C&I customer? I mean, from which you are doing the best?
Venu Nuguri
executiveIt's a C&I customer.
Parikshit Kandpal
analystSo your focus largely will be on the C&I segment, right, not at the utility scale.
Venu Nuguri
executiveNo, we will also do orbit of utility customers. As I said, we have been first thing, where we need to see how our product will fit into that. So those are the things we'll do. We are not limiting only to C&I.
Parikshit Kandpal
analystSir, my second question is on this quarter's revenue. So just wanted to understand, I mean, there is a dip in the gross margin. So what I understand is that if there is a contribution coming in from the 2 HP DCs on the revenue front. So the GPR may be slightly lower, but it's been utilized with at the EBITDA level. So just wanted to understand how much is the contribution of the HVDC projects in the revenue in this quarter.
Ajay Singh
executiveSee, we actually do not give the breakup separately on the margins for the respective segments. So overall, as I explained, the gross margin, if you compare from the last quarter, it has improved. If you compare from Y-on-Y basis, it has a slight contraction, and that is mainly coming off the different product mix that we are executing. But again, if you compare from that March year-end closing, we are consistent. And also to remember that in the first quarter, the first quarter is generally a very soft quarter from various other things standpoint.
Parikshit Kandpal
analystI just wonder the revenue of the HVDC share of revenue, I don't want the margins. I just want to understand, in this quarter, how much is this contribution from the DC projects, the 2 HVDC projects. Approximately, I mean if you can give some color on that.
Ajay Singh
executiveSo if you have been following us, we have been telling that the first year, the revenue execution will be slightly on the lower side, and then it will pick up on the second and third year. That is what we have been telling. So this is also all the HPT revenues are -- has not been flown or it is not there in this particular quarter. That's much we can say.
Venu Nuguri
executiveBut it is in in in the first project. Carta project is picking up. Mataro will start, but Coveris picking up.
Parikshit Kandpal
analystSo this quarter largely the base revenue quarter, so no major contribution from HVDC revenues.
Venu Nuguri
executiveSo there is some contribution from the BDCs not that nothing is there.
Operator
operatorOur next question is from the line of Rahul Gajare with Macquarie.
Rahul Gajare
analystAnd congratulations on a very strong first quarter performance. Sir, I have got 2 questions. One, how much of the order backlog is coming from the export market. And if possible, you could give us geographically which markets you're getting the export business? That's the first question. And the second question is, if you -- once you finish your entire CapEx that you have lined up, including backward integration component manufacturing, -- is it possible to give us some qualitative sense of how Hitachi will be placed vis-a-vis Korean or Mexican manufacturing. So these are the 2 questions.
Venu Nuguri
executiveNo, on the exports as part of our listing is roughly ballpark we are -- again, we are trending 25%-26%. Let me just take 1 Give me a minute. Yes. On the overall order backlog, if you're talking about our order backlog of INR 32,000 crores that our exports is in the range of plus 5% to that. What was your second question?
Rahul Gajare
analystSir, second question is once your entire CapEx is done, which basically you are doing a lot of backward integration, including component manufacturing, I wanted to understand how will Hitachi Energy India will be competitive vis-a-vis Korean players or Mexican players. So some qualitative tens, if not quantification if possible.
Venu Nuguri
executiveWe are already competing with Mexican, Korean, right. So -- our manufacturing here is to increase our capacity. And also, of course, localizing some of those components here for that. But I don't see any issue with the competing with any of those players or Mexican or anyone for that matter. Our requirement is to complete is that as long as there's a level in funds there, we have no issue in competing anyhow.
Rahul Gajare
analystNo. Actually, what I was trying to get to was, once you have more backward integration, are you obviously better place localization will obviously lower your cost. So from that perspective, that you will be maybe 10% more cheaper to manufacture compared to what you are today. That's where I was trying to get to.
Venu Nuguri
executiveNo, I just said, it's definitely our volume and other things will take us -- give us more leverage. That's a different issue. But the whole idea is we continue to localize more and more components and also create an end-to-end manufacturing scenario over a period of time, right? That's our intention why we are doing this kind of CapEx.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Jason Soans with IDBI Capital.
Jason Soans
analystCongrats on a good set of numbers. Sir, first question just pertains to how is the HVDC pipeline looking the Mama project is there? And just an update on how is it looking from a 6 months to 1 year point of view awarding, et cetera? How is it looking?
Venu Nuguri
executiveI think as you all know that there is an HVDC project who greenfield HVDC project is already bidding for our customers and as well as. And we expect that should be awarded in 6 months or really.
Jason Soans
analystAnd sir, also, during the quarter, there was a news about the entry of basically the government allowing the entry of 4 Chinese players into the market, basically, that will probably be more catering to the GI side and the transformer side. So I just wanted your opinion, your color on how do you take this up. The 60%, 65% local content thing also is there -- so just wanted to know your understanding of this aspect, will it push prices down? How do you see this thing going ahead?
Venu Nuguri
executiveSo our view is very clear. Any more competition is absolutely welcome to meet the demand and supply challenges for sure demand and supply challenges, if any, -- and our thing is very clear. As long as the level playing field is there, and we do not see any issue in competing and also ensuring that whatever our margin ambition is latent. So coming back to the specific question here, and here in this but case out of that one transformer and the others were the switchgear, GIS, et cetera. They were already competing in some form of other firms may not be in some segment, but other segments in that. I don't see any major material impact for us.
Jason Soans
analystSure, sir. Okay. Okay. But sir, PBA being one of the largest players, do you think -- I mean you still feel competition, et cetera, will be okay as far as we'll be able to put that threat going on?
Venu Nuguri
executiveAbsolutely, absolutely. No, we don't see any major flat at this point in time.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Umesh Raut with Nomura.
Umesh Raut
analystCongrats for a very good set of numbers. My first question is pertaining to BSS capability that we have. So if I understand...
Venu Nuguri
executiveSorry which one?
Umesh Raut
analystBSS capability. If I understand correctly, I think the scope of work that you can get it to is basically pertaining to, say, inverters, PCS solutions, then probably integration between cell and grid connection. So that's what you can offer. So how much of this is basically localized and whether those capacities are currently ready with you?
Venu Nuguri
executiveNo. On the battery energy storage, we have -- we approached this segment in 2 ways. In one segment where we will also supply our PCS solutions, which we are not localized yet whenever we localize. So that will be supplied to our battery energy storage developers. And the second one is through our grid integration business. So we will also do the complete battery energy storage solutions end-to-end. And to admin, we do not do the civil and things, but right from the grid connections and until the last thing we'll do that, but -- in this case, we are doing a complete count wise and scalable solutions. And we don't pull that ties into our things, excluding batteries, but we do complete design complete automation and also PCS and everything with connection thing we do at intend solutions, customers can take this and provide that.
Umesh Raut
analystUnderstood. So did that software would be also part of this package?
Venu Nuguri
executiveYes.
Umesh Raut
analystUnderstood. Second question is pertaining to Slide #10, where you are indicating probably a downturn in terms of growth for transmission as railway and metro in the first quarter. And if I also look at your order mix between utility for last year, 1 quarter, and this year, I think it is down. So any read through a year? Is it a temporary where you see probably...
Venu Nuguri
executiveIt's a temporary thing, the transmission temporary thing. I don't see that as a major issue there. The rail as such, there is a bit of the projects are not coming as per plant. And when we talk to the rail authorities and the metro authorities, we expect that should come in the second half of the year, and that should pick up with that. The transformation is just a timing issue and also it's also our ability to pick up everything, right, whether it is meeting the delivery requirements, et cetera, and that sometimes those other things also will play a role, not as a segment issue.
Umesh Raut
analystUnderstood. Third question is basically the data center orders that you have received during the quarter. So now that you have received the order, any color about opportunity that you can cater on per gigawatt basis in terms of, say, value increase of data center -- and second, I guess there is 1 large project from the Hyderabad that is from 1 of the leading MNC company. So would this be an exclusive collaboration that you have?
Venu Nuguri
executiveNo. I think we are competing right now. Most of the data center customers are securing the long lead items like a transformer, like a diteconsumers or GI, et cetera, and that's what where we are getting the orders in that -- and as you know, that we also -- this is our portfolio, right? Our portfolio will be all the grid integration, GIS, the transformer tighter consumer power transom, et cetera, with [indiscernible], including the services, and we have been working on this. We also have our portfolio we have just launched what we call as a grid to race shown in our investor meet in Mumbai, Grid to rack, we are still working on that, where the grid to rack is a modular, scalable, where all the products will fit into that and for them, customer is more like a fitting to -- so those are the things we have launched. So we are working on that with some customers to see whether it makes sense for the customer as well as for us.
Umesh Raut
analystUnderstood. If I can squeeze 1 more, just last question, which is basically on transport side on Slide #5. You have mentioned about a large program related to Kinetis solutions. So what is your scope of for here? And how big ordering opportunity could be from these train sets?
Venu Nuguri
executiveI think this is -- what we talked about Indian railways, kind of railway solutions to manufacture an Vande Bharat super trains. I think this is coming up. Our scope of work is, again, it's depending upon whether it is the engine or the cost countrification. So all of our -- the 4 business unit portfolio that will go into that. depending upon that. If it's only only for the locomotives, then you'll get this cost and transfer we go into it.
Umesh Raut
analystUnderstood. Any color on the quantum side in terms of value.
Venu Nuguri
executiveNo, we don't have at this point in time. We don't want to also share the segment-wise that quarter.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Sumit Kishore with Axis Capital.
Sumit Kishore
analystMy first question is in relation to your order backlog of INR 322 billion, roughly what percentage of this is non-BDC right now. And of the knowledge, we do see order backlog roughly, where are the on the proportion of data center contracts. And broadly, if you could also comment on the momentum on the data center order prospects that you are seeing. Is this growing exponentially? Or this is still an opportunity, which is already maturing.
Venu Nuguri
executiveNo. On the order backlog, we don't give specifically how much is HPCwiven so far, as you know, these are all very, very equivalent projects are coming up, so we don't like to do that. So you should see respect that. But you can make your own guess. We have given a number of indications enough things for you to understand how much could be that -- that's number one. And the number 2.
Sumit Kishore
analystData centers, if you could.
Venu Nuguri
executiveData center, it is -- this quarter, it's quite long. -- okay, in this quarter, quarter launch. Okay? The visibility for us going forward is also very strong. So the key is when we talk to data developers, they say that there's a lot of plants are there. The key is that there should be a lot of support from government to ensure that the land and the data center customers that gestation period is very sharp. It's not like we have a long estate they wanted to develop wherever it is available there. So I think that is what we are looking at it, whether this particular strong pipeline will be sustainable going forward. If you see whatever they're talking about a 15 gigawatt by 2030. That is true, then this thing will be sustainable going forward.
Sumit Kishore
analystSure. My second question is in relation to your business switches into transformers you are insulated. We understand against commodity price variations to a large extent, given the demand/supply mismatch. What would you say would be the commodity price volatility for the non-transformer part of your business portfolio.
Ajay Singh
executiveSo at the moment, we we see that we are not getting any material impact as such. So most of the contracts that we have talked about, let's say, cove 70% is variable cost we are having. So overall, if you see, let's say, in this quarter, there is no commodity impact per se. Even in the small -- the small impacts are being managed.
Operator
operatorThank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will take that as a last question for today. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. N. Venu, MD and CEO, for closing comments. Over to you, sir.
Venu Nuguri
executiveThank you very much. We are very pleased with our strong start to the financial year '27 and the business is executing very well. The market demand remains robust, and our pipeline is stronger. And while we remain mindful of our macro economic uncertainties and also restate prices and elevated commodity prices and project execution challenges that can arise in a dynamic environment. We are confident in our ability to capitalize on the opportunities ahead and continue creating a long-term value for our shareholders. Thank you once again for joining the call. And if you need any more information, please reach out to Priyanka Bhagat, who heads the Investor Relations we are happy to provide ING with you as a case -- thank you very much and take care.
Operator
operatorThank you. On behalf of Hitachi Energy India Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you all for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines.
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