Hologic, Inc. (HOLX) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
February 17, 2021
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Ryan Zimmerman
analystAll right. Good morning, and welcome again to the BTIG Virtual MedTech, Digital Health, Life Science and Diagnostic Tools Conference. I'm Ryan Zimmerman, Senior MedTech Analyst here at BTIG. We're excited to have Hologic here with us today, coming off of a wonderful article, I might add, this weekend from Barron's. If you haven't had a chance to read that, you definitely should. With us from Hologic is Karleen Oberton, Chief Financial Officer; and Michael Watts, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you both for joining us.
Ryan Zimmerman
analystMaybe, Karleen, let's just jump right into questions. I think most investors know Hologic. We can skip the intro spiel. But if I think back before COVID, Hologic was a low single-digit to mid-single-digit growth company. And in the process of moving to mid-single digits more consistently, I think with improved growth across the business segments post the Cynosure divestiture. Now with the cash you've generated, the M&A done as a result, when COVID subsides, how should investors think about the company from a growth perspective?
Karleen Oberton
executiveYes. Thanks, Ryan, and thanks for having us here today. We're pleased to present. Yes. If you look back at probably the last quarter or 2 before COVID hit, obviously, the revenue growth was improving and was about 5% pre-COVID. And obviously, the COVID revenue has a free stock profitability in cash really allows us the opportunity to strengthen the business long term. So given what we've done specifically with Panther placements, the acceleration of those placements really, we'd be certainly disappointed if we didn't have a higher growth rate post COVID definitely in the molecular business. And we like what we're seeing in the rest of business in terms of recovery as well as the recent acquisitions while small thus far, will be implemented to the growth rate.
Ryan Zimmerman
analystGot it. On the COVID testing dynamic, pricing has been surprised, but prices stayed relatively consistent thus far. And I think the last time we spoke, there was a slight chance that pricing could come down a little bit or maybe you were preparing investors for that expectation, certainly as the market has gotten more crowded today than even it was 6 months ago. So what's your current thinking around pricing for COVID test today? And is there a level of testing, you're kind of at around 30 million tests now that you just reported out, where lower pricing will be needed to maybe encourage more demand? Or do you think this is going to remain completely inelastic in terms of consumer demand?
Karleen Oberton
executiveYes. So if we look at Q1, you're right, pricing is held at about $25 per test. It was a little bit better than we had expected. I think in terms of the current quarter, maybe a slight decline but nothing significant. But we do believe over the longer term that pricing trends will come down over time as significant increases in tests satisfy supply versus demand. And also, the potential for changing reimbursement has obviously put some pressure on pricing. But at the end of the day, Ryan, if we had to take the price down a bit, this would still be a highly profitable product for us.
Ryan Zimmerman
analystYes. Now Steve made a comment on the last call. He called COVID testing the Wild, Wild West. And I'm just curious if you guys have a view as to whether the FDA could start revoking some of the EUAs that they were giving out -- that have been given out so frequently over the past year from maybe some of the other tests that have lower performance than the PCR test that Hologic offers?
Karleen Oberton
executiveYes. I mean, obviously, the FDA could go back and look at some of the performance and even make adjustments. But we haven't seen them do that thus far. I think there's still a fair amount of people using the antigen test off label just -- again, just given the demand for testing out there right now. But we haven't -- I haven't heard any revoking of approval at this point. I think for us, the good news is our test performance is actually outstanding and that we actually go after 2 targets on the genome. So even when there's variance out there, we're still going to pick those up. So we're really pleased with our product and the indications we have for asymptomatic improvement.
Ryan Zimmerman
analystOkay. Now you guys are scaling manufacturing up through the course of calendar year '21. I think your -- the goal is to be at 75 million tests by early 2022. What happens to all of that capacity over time, especially if demand starts to wane on testing? And to that point, kind of your expectation for demand of tests, does it get repurposed for other molecular diagnostic testing? And how should investors think about that -- those investments you're making over this year in the COVID manufacturing space?
Karleen Oberton
executiveYes, Ryan. So the good news is that the government is actually funding a fair amount of that investment to scale up from a -- so from a financial risk perspective, it's going to be pretty limited when we think about idle capacity. But I think really what we're excited about is what we've talked about in the test of reference that we've done for the non-COVID assays. We did 35 million in '20, off to 20 million in Q1 alone. So that gives us insight that the molecular business is going to be stronger and we'll take out some of that capacity as well as internationally. The placement of Panther internationally is going to drive demand for the rest of our assays. So to refresh, we have 18 assays approved, including -- to COVID on the Panther. And I think getting more customers familiar with our Panther, I think, is going to get them excited about putting more menu on that platform.
Ryan Zimmerman
analystOkay. Now there has been discussion, will you or won't you pursue anything in terms of point-of-care diagnostic testing, whether it's related to COVID or not. I'd love to just kind of revisit this topic and get your current thoughts today in light of the success you have had with COVID. Has your view changed at all on this area? And could we see Hologic in a point-of-care situation -- or a point-of-care acquisition?
Karleen Oberton
executiveYes. So I think certainly point-of-care is something that we look at, we have looked at, we continue to look at. I think specifically right now, at this point in time, a lot of point-of-care have taken advantage of the COVID as well. And so evaluations are pretty high. We want to stay disciplined in our M&A strategy. So we might stand on the sideline a little bit now. I think given the other challenges in that space is gross margins being given that most targets would be dilutive to our gross margins at this point in time. But the other thing for investors to think about, Ryan, is if you think about that plant, Panther size, the Panther is like a little bigger than a photocopier you see in the office. And so it can sit in the smaller lab, the midsize lab. And so while it's not point-of-care, we're pretty close to the customer. So we can get that quick turnaround, high accuracy that customers are looking for.
Ryan Zimmerman
analystYes. No, fair point. Looking past COVID, though, you mentioned the tests for record metric, and I think is a great one that investors have started to appreciate more. You did about $20 million or so in the quarter. It kind of annualizes to $80 million. It's certainly up significantly from last year. Just talk about kind of which assays you're seeing the most robust demand for outside of COVID and whether you can continue to add to that menu of assay offerings over time? And should we think that, that gets bigger or your penetration and, say, some of the existing assays continues to grow at a higher rate?
Karleen Oberton
executiveYes. So we're off to great start in '21, for sure, with the $20 million that we just talked about and we're really a testament of our sales force to drive pull-through on the Panther. And I guess as we've talked about, we've incentivized purposely our sales force on non-COVID assays through a higher commission rate than on COVID to take advantage of this opportunity, if you will. But I think from a menu, I think we're really happy with what -- the menu that we have. I think from a newer assay perspective, certainly, we're excited about our vaginosis panel, BV/CV. Mgen is another new assay that's going nicely. We're investing and developing in the market and creating awareness of that test. And certainly, our viral loads, our respiratory panels have a way to go. Those are newer. If you think about this business, it's a business that's typically under contract for multiple years, so -- as those contracts are at renewal. So we think this is -- this moment in time is an exciting moment for our molecular business.
Ryan Zimmerman
analystCertainly. Let's turn to GYN Surgical for a moment here. Now you've had your first growth quarter in a few quarters. The portfolio is more comprehensive today than it has been some time. You added the Acessa Health deal. What kind of growth should investors expect out of GYN Surgical in a normalized environment? Because this has been -- time is a very key growth area for the company?
Karleen Oberton
executiveYes. So I mean, to refresh investors, if you look back at what the Surgical growth rates were in Q4 '19, about 7%; in Q1 '20, it was 10%. So yes, I think when we get back to normal, you would be disappointed if that business wasn't growing in the highest digits -- highest single digits. I think one of the key things that we've done over the last couple of years is really invest in that sales team, have rebuilt a fair amount of that sales team. That was a group that's basically 100% commissioned. So we made sure we took care of them in the early days, if we go back to Q3 of '20. So we kept that sales team intact as we do that. That's really a key asset to that division. But we see opportunities in the laparoscopic space inside the acquisition of Acessa. We're excited about what we're learning with that space now that we own that asset. But we're also looking at opportunities as -- for instance, in product of public health, what else is that physician -- or procedure that, that physician is doing that we cannot do ourselves.
Ryan Zimmerman
analystAnd Steve alluded to this on the call a bit but he said -- alluded to the pipeline here a little bit. Is there a cadence or anything you can share at this point? And it might be getting ahead of ourselves but around the GYN Surgical business that we can expect in terms of new product flow from the company over the next year or 2?
Karleen Oberton
executiveYes. I mean, this has been -- talk about organic investment. This is a division that historically hadn't invested in our R&D and has been a key focus for that team over the last 24 months. And I think in fiscal '20, they had a number of new product approvals. So looking at procedures that are performed today, how can we enhance, improve those procedures. One of the newer products is Fluent Fluid Management, which is doing really nicely and actually enhances the pathology which the MyoSure product can be used for. So I think a regular cadence of new product introductions and probably more cost singles and not home runs is what we'll continue to see for that division. But clearly, that is a division where M&A would be great.
Ryan Zimmerman
analystOkay. Well, turning to breast health for a few questions.
Karleen Oberton
executive[Technical Difficulty] certainly that's a division with the fewest products. So looking to build off of that.
Ryan Zimmerman
analystOkay. Turning to breast health for a few questions. I mean, how would you characterize the conversion from 2D to 3D mammography today? I mean, where are we at in that cycle? And then I want to ask a little bit about kind of your ability to pair those systems with the biopsy system, the Brevera and also Affirm or the MACH 40 ultrasound. And you've added a lot of new products to this group beyond your core mammography suite. So if you can just kind of level set everyone as to where we are in that customer conversion process?
Karleen Oberton
executiveYes. So when me talk about where we ended fiscal '20, we estimated at the end of our fiscal '20 that 3D was about 80% of our installed base and about 70% of the U.S. market. And if you look at the total market in our installed base, that would still give us, within our own installed base, a few thousands still to convert 2D to 3D. So if you look at pre-COVID, the annual placements of roughly 1,000 units is likely just in one way still within our own installed base to continue to place 3Ds. I think that the thing that's important to think about the breast health business is really what we've done to diversify that portfolio while the imaging in the 3D gantry is score to that division, it's a smaller piece of that revenue pie today. And that's been very intentional to diversify that portfolio to limit our capital exposure and limit our -- and what we've really done is break that [indiscernible] curve with that steady placement of 1,000 gantries a year prior to COVID. So the second half of your question in which turns -- in regards to Brevera and the firm, yes, those aren't really -- I wouldn't think of those as attachments to 3Ds. Those are -- they could be included in very broad large deals. But they often have different sales cycles and separate budgets in hospitals. So just kind of more of a stand-alone that is kind of an attachment to the 3D. What is an attachment to the 3D is certainly our service contract revenues. And that attachment rate remains high at about 80%. What we've also done, Ryan, from an R&D perspective and product portfolio is we've come out with 3 dimensions, which has latest and greatest AI tools and a smartphone comfort pattern. What we've done is we've made those backwards compatible to the installed base. So those are ways that we're kind of leveraging that installed base that's one of the key assets for that division.
Ryan Zimmerman
analystGot it. Okay. Can you -- I think you guys were at about 90% pre-COVID in terms of getting back to those kind of mammography screening rates. I'd love to just get some early color on kind of how we're trending into this year in terms of mammography rates and whether we could see kind of a normalized cadence over the course of this quarter or, maybe I'm jumping the gun, maybe 2 quarters?
Karleen Oberton
executiveYes. We're still holding at that 90% rate, which I think it's going to probably take inoculation of the population probably to get back to that 100%. There's still going to be patients that just do scale to go into their screen. But we're pleased with the 90%. Obviously, we'll do what we can to help promote screening. It's important. If we don't get screened it doesn't mean the cancer is not there. We would like to see those rates improve. But I think it's going to take several more quarters to get back to pre-COVID levels.
Ryan Zimmerman
analystOkay. Turning to collaborations. You guys -- and we'll get into M&A a little bit too. But there was a recent collaboration you guys did with Google, I think it's for digital cytology. And I'm just wondering if you can talk about the impact that, that will have, when it will have an impact and when we could see something out of that collaboration. And a similar question on RadNet for mammography really. Just kind of the impact it will have, when we will see it have an impact and what it could potentially do for your Breast Health segment?
Karleen Oberton
executiveYes. So we're really excited about digital cytology and the collaboration with Google. Really, the goal of that collaboration is to improve accuracy and efficiency in cervical cancer screening. Google helps with expertise and machine learning as well as having a secure and reliable cloud architecture that we could rely on. I think one of the -- even if you think about OUS, one of the rate-limiting factors of cervical cancer screening is lack of cytologists. So to have digital cytology can leverage AI where it helps you to potentially expand screening programs. In regards to RadNet, that is on the breast side. And RadNet has probably one of the largest installed base. And so they are providing us cases of actual cancer images to help inform our genius AI algorithm. So this is the best way for us to -- most efficient way for us to get the most cases to develop those algorithms over a faster time horizon. And really, what the goal there from an AI technology perspective in breast is to improve cancer detection and radiologists workflow.
Ryan Zimmerman
analystGot it. SOMATEX, part of their product offering was for biopsy localization. But it was also -- part of the product offering was actually for retrieval outside of breast. I think they had some other businesses beyond breast. So is that a signal that you guys could be moving beyond breast health? How should investors think about that portion of the SOMATEX business relative to the portion you acquired? And what happens with that over time?
Karleen Oberton
executiveYes. Ryan, the real focus on that acquisition was the breast biopsy in the marker segment. And really, the other pieces were much smaller pieces of that business. But we were excited about the business in general, adding German sales force. It's an acquisition that's accretive right away. As you know, we're already distributing tumor biopsy markers in the U.S. And so now we get some more gross margin leverage as well on that.
Ryan Zimmerman
analystOkay. Well, let's -- talking about that, you've jumped my question. But Steve did talk about going direct in breast in some markets. And so from a P&L perspective, with an expanded direct presence, more broadly in Europe, I mean, what would that require in terms of increased SG&A? Could we see that maybe beyond Germany, in some other markets? And what kind of margin offsets would that bring if you started moving to a bigger direct sales force as a result of this acquisition?
Karleen Oberton
executiveYes. So beyond SOMATEX, Ryan, we had already gone direct in some key markets in Germany. We had bought out our DLOs a couple of years ago. And really, we get leverage on in gross margin line. But also, we get that service business that we didn't have before. So they're pretty accretive right away. And what we also find is that from market access, market development, those businesses perform better as part of the logic versus the local dealer, if you will. So we like what we've done there. It's been a strategy that's paid off. And we believe there's a few others that are still to be accomplished in Europe.
Ryan Zimmerman
analystOkay. A follow-up on the P&L a little bit. So testing has been a huge enhancement to gross margins. I think that's the accurate statement that we can say. With the increased capacity in manufacturing, can you drive further margin gains than you already have? And how do we think about kind of the puts and takes of potentially lower testing demand relative to some of the M&A that you've done, particularly on the gross margin line as we look out ahead for the rest of the year?
Karleen Oberton
executiveYes. Ryan, I'd say the COVID test has been significantly accretive to our gross margin profile. So therefore, you would expect that as the COVID revenue testing likely comes down in the second half of the year, as we've talked about, the gross margin percentage is going to come down as well. But we still believe it will be higher than the pre-COVID given the size of that tail of COVID testing. But I think from some of the recent M&A, pretty immaterial to the overall gross margin profile. And I think there could be some upside on the base business as that continues to recover as well. But overall, I would -- the trend through '21, gross margins are going to move as the COVID testing moves.
Ryan Zimmerman
analystOkay. Now your leverage, you guys, I think, were around 3x net levered pre-FY '21, essentially nil now. I mean, you say often that you're comfortable with up to 3x. So is there any instance where you're taking on more debt for M&A at this point? Or is this largely -- should we think about your capital allocation strategy being largely funded by cash and about strengthening stock given where the company is today relative to what it was even just a year ago?
Karleen Oberton
executiveYes. I mean, as we sit here today, I would say that the tuck-in M&A strategy is going to be executed with our free cash flow, which has been tremendous. I think when we think about deals, we want to look -- we're looking at deals from a position of strength. We don't have to do anything, so keeping that discipline. So if that means over the next couple of quarters that our leverage ratio is below 1, we're okay with kind of sitting on the sidelines and having that low leverage ratio. But over the longer term, yes, we're still comfortable with the 2 to 3x. And we've got $1.5 billion revolver ready to go if we need it. But again, probably mostly on our free cash flow, I really don't see any need to use our stock at this point.
Ryan Zimmerman
analystOkay. Well, I want to leave it there. We're just about out of time. I want to thank Mike and Karleen for your time today. Thanks, Hologic, really for everything you guys have done for the past year. I know I've certainly used a few of your tests just to be safe. And so I thank you, guys, and thanks for the time. And we'll talk again soon.
Karleen Oberton
executiveThanks, Ryan. Appreciate it.
Michael Watts
executiveThanks, Ryan.
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