JELD-WEN Holding, Inc. (JELD) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 10, 2021

New York Stock Exchange US Industrials Building Products conference_presentation 33 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Matthew Bouley

analyst
#1

Good morning, everyone. I am Matt Bouley, Barclays U.S. Homebuilding and Building Products analyst. I just want to welcome everyone to our virtual Building and Building Products conference this year. Happy to kick off our 2-day conference with JELD-WEN. We have CEO, Gary Michel, joining us. For anyone listening, please feel free to e-mail me or Bloomberg message me questions for Gary, and I'll try to work those in. So Gary, thank you for joining us this morning. If you would perhaps begin with maybe an overview and update on JELD-WEN for anyone less familiar with the company, and then we'll just dive right into Q&A from there. So Gary, please go ahead, sir.

Gary Michel

executive
#2

Good morning, Matt. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us this morning and your interest in JELD-WEN. We are a window and door manufacturer, global in scope. Really our global footprint, what we've been talking about is our multifaceted growth strategy. We have world-class brands and building a premier performing culture here at JELD-WEN. We've been delivering consistent profitable growth and strong shareholder returns for the last several years. That strong -- that multifaceted growth strategy that we talk about is really focused on 4 pillars. Four pillars include core revenue growth on a global basis; operational excellence, which is delivering margin expansion; disciplined working capital management; disciplined deployment of our capital as well as this premier performing culture that we're building, which I think separates JELD-WEN really from the pack. The foundation of all this is our business operating system that we call JEM or the JELD-WEN Excellence Model. We've been steadily and deliberately deploying JEM across the enterprise, both on the manufacturing side as well as our functional and commercial sides as well, reducing cycle time, driving industry best manufacturing lead times in a number of our products, particularly in North America and our windows and door businesses. We've been focused on footprint rationalization to improve both our productivity, our throughput and add capacity to the building, to the -- add capacity to the business so that we can meet customer demands, which is particularly important right now with accelerated demand across most of our products and categories. I mean we've made strategic investments in capacity for profitable product lines. When you think about what we've been doing in multifamily, what we've been doing in exterior fiberglass doors and with our soon-to-be launched composite windows. Really in a great place. When we talk about JEM and the deployment, we've now kind of moved on in defining and starting to deploy what we call our model value stream transformation. So we've taken kind of JEM on steroids in a few of our locations. We've deployed 9 or 10 in the last quarter or in the last half of the year with an anticipation of bringing that to 14 by the end of the year. These are places where we're doubling down. We're spending a little more effort. These are our major value streams that deliver customer value. On the growth side, we sell windows and doors throughout the world and additional building materials using innovation to drive growth, both on the process side, product side and customer experience. We introduced some great products. Some samples of that include our elements collection in Australia, which is not only a beautiful collection of doors that meet design trends and the needs of designers and builders, but also as a sustainable product using the element products, using materials that are available and looking at life cycle -- the life cycle of the product category as well. So very exciting for our customers. We've also been expanding digital customer experience, making it easier to learn about our products, make it easier to configure our products, order them and then do after service performance as well. So JEM is kind of the underlying piece for all of that. It's a lean problem solving, continuous improvement environment, but it's in our innovation as well and has really driven our ability to add to growth there. Over the last several years, we've also been delivering strong operating performance, and we've seen great market momentum. We're in our 11th consecutive quarter of positive price mix, 6 consecutive quarters of gross margin expansion. We delivered another quarter of global core growth. We're seeing very supportive housing fundamentals in all 3 of our regions, North America, Europe and Australia. Seeing positive repair and remodel in North America; Europe, being led by repair and remodel as well, and strengthening housing recovery in Australia. So we like what we see from the supporting markets, and we've been delivering margin expansion and core growth on top of that. So again, strong cash flow on top of all of that. It's been allowing us to be disciplined in our capital deployment. We did some nice repurchases of shares year-to-date. We'll continue to look at that, but we do have a strong pipeline of high returning projects that we're investing in as well as looking at our M&A pipeline as well to continue to grow, expand our strategy, accelerate our strategy, grow the company and deliver financial returns. So with that, probably best to open up to your questions, and I'd love to share as much as I can about JELD-WEN this morning.

Matthew Bouley

analyst
#3

Wonderful. Well, thank you for that, Gary. So plenty of areas to kind of jump off there. Just going to ask a couple sort of near-term questions before we take a step back and talk more about some of the strategic initiatives you've highlighted. So you mentioned market momentum is strong right now. I'm just curious if you could speak a bit about sort of the volume environment, maybe focusing on North America. Just how you're thinking about kind of the cadence of volumes in the second half? And maybe just based on what you're hearing from customers and seeing out there, if you have any visibility into '22 at this point?

Gary Michel

executive
#4

Yes. I think that what I just said about strong markets, you asked specifically about North America. We're seeing strong housing numbers. We have seen strong repair and remodel over the last year, 18 months. Our backlogs are very, very strong. Really, the limiting factor at this point is not demand, which we see very strong in North America in both residential new construction and R&R. It's really just been our ability to meet that demand. We've been doing that fairly well. On the door side, we've continued our rationalization, modernization programs, which have given us pretty good lead times for the most part, although we've suffered like most people with some outages here and there and labor availability. But the backlog and demand picture is very, very strong for us and our ability to deliver there. The other great example of JEM in North America is our windows business where we actually are -- even though we don't like the lead times and they're not what the industry is used to at 8 to 10 weeks on vinyl windows, that is industry leading at this point by a long shot where a lot of vinyl window manufacturers are quoting 20, 22 weeks or longer. So we've been able to use JEM to take advantage of that, gain some share, but it's still a very strong demand picture. And the combination of builders being able to close because of their labor needs, get other materials is part of the limiting factor. The other piece being just our ability to keep up with that demand given the picture on labor.

Matthew Bouley

analyst
#5

Got it. So you also mentioned that the top 11 consecutive quarters, I believe you said positive price over cost. And clearly, pricing has been a big part of the story for JELD-WEN. So I'm just curious there's been several price increase announcements this year, both doors and windows in North America. How are you thinking about the second half when it comes to pricing? There's clearly still inflation in freight and materials. Are you starting to get any pushback from customers on the multiple price increases? Just how should we think about the pricing phasing in over the next, call it, few quarters?

Gary Michel

executive
#6

So we have been deploying price for actually quite some time. The value -- the price and value equation primarily for doors has been a little upside down in the last several years. So we've been able to get price that matches the value of the products that we sell, and that's been great. You put on inflation this year, and that's driven a few more price increases that we've had to deploy. And so far, the market has taken those because, for the most part, the inflation has hit just about every corner of building products. So, so far, we have been able to pass those along and continue to deliver that favorable price mix. And price has offset inflation. That's one of the things that we set out when we do our planning anyway, and we've been able to do that pretty consecutively and pretty consistently here across all our products and across all our regions. So we do have some pricing going into effect now in the regions that will continue to offset that inflation, and we expect those to stick as well.

Matthew Bouley

analyst
#7

Great. So then the follow on to that would be, as we think about the guide implied in the second half, and you guys gave some commentary on the prior call around the cadence of margins, just curious if you could maybe elaborate a little bit around cadence of margins, Q3, Q4. You've got pricing coming through, but clearly, supply chain and freight are still difficult. So just any additional color on the second half around that margin cadence.

Gary Michel

executive
#8

Sure, Matt. As you kind of pointed out, on our call last week, we do expect our full year revenue to grow 12% to 14% and our full year EBITDA to be in the range of $510 million to $535 million. But similar to the results in the first half of the year, we also expect gross margin expansion versus last year, both Q3 and Q4. The magnitude of that gross margin expansion will probably be greater in the fourth quarter than in the third. As we start to get the full quarter benefit of some of the latest round of that pricing, we just talked about hitting in all regions kind of end of third quarter into fourth quarter. Additionally, we look at -- in addition to the pricing, we're looking at the -- some of the COVID-related cost savings that we saw last year really were in the third quarter, so it's a slight headwind to us in the third quarter as we lap that. And then we would expect also to get the full benefit as markets open up or as some of the temporary COVID-related shutdowns open up, particularly like in Australia where we're seeing those. So we're expecting those to loosen in the third quarter. Taking all that into account, I would expect that we'd see Q3 EBITDA margin to decline slightly versus last year, and we'd expect a really nice expansion in the fourth quarter versus the prior year.

Matthew Bouley

analyst
#9

Got it. Okay. That's helpful and makes sense. So maybe now, as I said, we'll step back and talk about some of the more strategic initiatives you've got going on. So I wanted to ask about the accelerated growth model. And in particular, with JEM, because over the years, we've always thought of it as more of the cost-out driver, lean manufacturing, driving efficiencies and things like that. But it really sounds like what you're doing with JEM is also in turn accelerating -- or meant to accelerate organic growth. You've talked about windows and fiberglass doors and things like that. So can you just expand a little on what you're doing with JEM specifically to actually drive growth and that profitable share gain you've spoken to.

Gary Michel

executive
#10

Yes. Absolutely. Great question. When we think of JEM, we think of that as our business operating system. It really kind of defines our standard work for everything that we do within the company. And we line everything up with the strategy that we detailed at our Investor Day earlier this year, which is focused on growth and margin expansion. The idea of how we deploy JEM in strategy deployment -- strategy development and deployment is really critical. We've got standard work that we -- we call it JELD-WEN Accelerated Growth, but it's just a part of our JEM business operating system, so it's all-encompassing. We focus on how -- just kind of the critical few things that will really move the needle to grow the company, expand here. These are big ideas that solve customer problems. So if you think about the strategy in general, what can we do to create a differentiated superior customer experience, something that is -- makes us easy to do business with, but also the right products that do the right things for customers where they need them and when they need them add value, right? So that's part of the strategy. The other piece is solving problems in our channels and for our customers. So things around logistics, labor availability. If we can make our products get there on time, but be easier to install, take out skilled labor and replace that with easier to get less skilled labor, those are great value drivers for our channel partners, for builders and contractors. So we're trying to work through all of that. But all of that gets laid out into our standard work. We think about our cycle time, how our factories, how our operations and how our functions all operate together in order to get that growth going. It's really around cycle time reduction, meeting needs, solving problems and all of that is really the essence of what JEM is.

Matthew Bouley

analyst
#11

Got it. That's really helpful. So as I think about some of the longer-term margin targets you've laid out back at the Investor Day. I'm just curious if you kind of split out JEM and then, I guess, call it, more discrete savings with the footprint rationalization and modernization program. How is that -- how are those 2 factors kind of playing from here into that longer-term margin guide you laid out?

Gary Michel

executive
#12

Yes. So I mean, they're all part of how we get there. When we started talking about the -- kind of the relationship between JEM and rationalization and modernization programs a few years ago, really, we talked to kind of 2 different programs but they were interrelated. Really, where we're at today is we've matured quite a bit where rationalization and modernization, we're probably 2/3 of the way through that program or certainly more than half in driving the benefit of footprint rationalization, modernizing our operations, driving standard work, improving cycle time, all of that, which sounds an awful lot like JEM too, right? But JEM also drives that daily, consistent improvement. We drive to improve every single day. We're driving to improve cycle time. Cycle time turns into our ability to grow. And growth on top of all of that helps us expand margin as we leverage those factories and those capabilities. So I kind of look at them as there's still too -- the modernization, rationalization program is still a program that drives savings and throughput. It takes latent square footage out of our operations. It makes it easier for us to do business in fewer locations with bigger investments. But at the same time, JEM is that day in and day out, consistently improving our operations at all levels to drive growth primarily.

Matthew Bouley

analyst
#13

Got it. And so 2/3 of the way through the rationalization and modernization program, that's helpful color. I'm curious, if anything, about that program has changed at all in this environment. Just thinking about rationalizing capacity but then balancing that with -- demand is obviously strong and you need to serve your customers. So as you've kind of moved through that program, has anything changed? And how do you kind of think about that balance between the 2?

Gary Michel

executive
#14

What's really interesting is we've used this to do 2 things, right? Take out the rooftops, right, which we have so many through all the acquisitions over all the years of our history that there's a real opportunity to consolidate square footage and to build more modern operating facilities to meet our customers' needs. The intent was never to take capacity out. It was quite frankly to increase capacity through modernization, automization and rationalization, which is what we were doing all along. When we were looking at sort of the beginning of last year and in some markets that softened like Australia, through their housing downturn over the last few years. Those are great opportunities for us to make those changes, adding capacity in new facility, but rationalizing how many facilities we actually had. So I think that was one thing, accelerating that program where we could. But the other piece is identifying these value streams that I talked about at the top that are really focused on -- these are the critical value streams, critical sites to meeting customer demand, particularly as it accelerates right now. And how do we continue to add cycle time, be able to add capacity and throughput without adding additional rooftops. We've obviously added -- we have invested in additional capacity where we need it in particular products and areas. But primarily, what we're doing is using throughput, using cycle time reduction in order to grow and it's paid off. You can see it in our lead times. You can see it in our share gains.

Matthew Bouley

analyst
#15

Got it. That's very helpful color. So I have to throw one question in on Towanda. I know you're limited in what you can say. But I would appreciate maybe if you could expand a little around the existing capacity you have beyond Towanda. Just thinking about servicing door skin needs and demand internally and externally. Just any additional color around the balance of your capacity and sort of serving what Towanda currently does.

Gary Michel

executive
#16

Yes. Without getting into too much of the details, we don't know -- the process is just beginning. We don't know who ultimately will be the buyer of the building products business at Towanda. Obviously, we could continue to -- under the right terms with the right buyer, continue to purchase our -- some needs for our door skins from there. But we do have 3 other domestic door skin facilities. We are in good shape to meet our current and our growth plan needs in those facilities. JEM has been deployed at all 4 of those skin facilities in North America. So we've been doing the same thing around cycle time reduction, throughput improvement, productivity modernization. We feel like we're in a great place to meet our own needs certainly for now and into the future for door skins.

Matthew Bouley

analyst
#17

Got it. Okay. That's helpful. And then you mentioned at the top, taking a look at M&A. Again, obviously, at the Investor Day, you spoke to kind of several potential adjacencies that might fit with your business. I'm curious if you could expand a little bit on that. How does the pipeline look for M&A? And how do the valuations look in that market right now?

Gary Michel

executive
#18

Yes. I mean we're clearly looking at a pretty robust pipeline. There's some opportunities in a few different areas. We talked about, at Investor Day, our ability to grow our European business. We believe that there's still some geographic expansion there as well as some product capabilities. The windows business in North America is -- now that we're at a point where we're growing, gaining share, there's a lot of opportunity in windows and has been in North America. We believe that that's a place that we can look as well. And without getting too specific on other opportunities, they obviously have to be -- they have to be related to our strategy, which we talked about primarily in those categories as well as some adjacent categories we do like that are high-performing materials used in building residential construction primarily and multifamily. The idea there being that when we talk about that strategy that we're trying to build out, it's around improving that customer experience; solving problems for builders and contractors, primarily around logistics, installation, there are labor issues as well; and adding additional high-performance products that are sustainable, and that meet those needs. So that's kind of where we're looking. Obviously, it's got a -- right now, it's got a pretty high bar. M&A has a pretty high bar to -- hurdle to pass, particularly with our share price where it is today. That's a great investment -- we think, a great investment for us and use of our cash. And we still have some great internal investment opportunities that are high returning. So we've got to balance all 3 of those.

Matthew Bouley

analyst
#19

Got it. Okay. Understood. And then you mentioned at the top sort of a pipeline of new product launches as well. Obviously, you kind of daylighted the composite windows launch at the Builders' Show a couple of years ago back when we were doing things in person. Any update on how that product is coming along? And really even beyond that, just anything else we can look out for in terms of new product launches?

Gary Michel

executive
#20

Yes. We've got quite a -- we've been sharing a little bit every quarter, I think, on the call with what we've been launching really around the world. A lot of our product categories, again, are in that high-performing sustainable categories. The elements collection that we talked about in Australia is the most recent one, which adds some really stylish but sustainable products. In Europe, we're doing kind of the same thing. We've got zero-touch entry doors. A lot going on, on the -- on exterior doors, entry door and fiberglass in particular. And then the composite window product line, which we're really excited about, which really will be a game changer for the windows business that we expect to launch later in the year with commercial availability in the first part of next year. So very, very excited about that. We're going to continue the pipeline. We've got a lot of innovation going on in just about every segment of the business, either around energy efficiency; obviously, keeping up with designs and styles; but also this focus on more technical doors around sound, around security and around sustainable products.

Matthew Bouley

analyst
#21

Got it. Very helpful. And can I ask about the mix of business in North America? I know over the past year, retail was strong versus traditional distribution. I think it sounded like in the quarter that may be flipping a little bit. Can you just speak to how the mix is playing into your margin assumptions around the second half of '21?

Gary Michel

executive
#22

Well, we've seen really strong housing numbers. So that tends to be -- that tends to drive the traditional distribution channel which is a good margin channel for us. So we certainly see that. The other place that we've talked about mix is just within retail being the -- what we would call the standard or stock SKUs versus special order SKUs. Nothing really exotic about special order SKUs in retail other than they're just not what's stocked in a store. So as we try to keep stock in a store up the -- particularly last year when contractors were -- and customers were trying to buy whatever was available in stock without waiting lead time, the uncertainty of a lead time wait for something special, we saw that mix kind of turn upside down a little bit. Specials, obviously, are a better margin business for us. We've seen that start to flip obviously as we're starting to fill the channel that -- being able to keep up with the stock channel and filling the shelves in the stores as well as seeing more reliance on special orders again. So we're starting to see that flip. Probably, we'll see full stocking of the retail -- of retail kind of happen with the normal seasonality that we would expect to see over this next winter. So we'll probably see the full flip back, I would expect, as we go into the end of this year and into next year. Typically, just for those who are not familiar in the retail channels, the stock up of the actual stock units happens normally in the winter months, just prior to the season in the spring, and then special orders start to pick up then. So that cycle was jarred a little bit last year as everybody was just trying to take whatever they can get out of stock. And it's taken -- while we're meeting the flow-through at point of sale, it's been a little difficult to kind of take those little bites out of stocking. So we're in pretty good shape for this part of the season, and I would expect that to fully turn kind of as the seasonality comes back to normal later this year.

Matthew Bouley

analyst
#23

Got it. That's helpful. And then I guess one final one with a minute to go here, just shift the focus to Europe. Any color around, a, the volume expectations, different countries, different regions within Europe because we tend to bucket it all together, but obviously, there's a lot of moving pieces there. And just on top of that, anything to call out when you think about COVID cases ticking up again. I mean that could -- whether that's impacting Europe or really anywhere around the world. Just anything to call out there as far as risks.

Gary Michel

executive
#24

Yes. So as far as Europe goes, we've had particular strength in what we call Central Europe, kind of Germany, Austria, kind of the Nordics, it's been good. U.K., growing back -- starting to grow back nicely now as that's been opening up, and France. So in general, the R&R business, repair and remodel, replace and remodel business in Europe, fairly strong. Residential new construction probably is -- still got some opportunity there to grow, and we would expect that. We've been doing a nice job. The European team has done a great job there of really kind of changing the mix of our products in those regions where we were a little more regional also in our product categories. We've now been expanding where it's been growth for us. It's great where we've been able to take some of the more higher-end technical products that we typically reserve for Central Europe, those are starting to be offered in the U.K. and France. Likewise, we're bringing some of the -- more of the R&R-type products and kind of bringing those across Europe as well. So some real opportunity for us to grow there. The dynamics of Europe, we like. While it may be net-net, the actual markets may be just low single digits, flat to low single digits. Our business is actually a little bit better than that as we're gaining share by that product proliferation or product movement as well as just the benefit of having good operations and the work that we talked about with JEM driving cycle time, driving availability. But we have a pretty strong business in Europe as well, so they've done a real nice job there. As far as COVID goes, we're like everybody else. I'm not going to pontificate on where things are going to end up. We've seen Australia have some shutdowns -- rolling shutdowns here lately. We expect those to start loosening back up. In the U.S., it's -- you can read the maps. Does anybody else scan on the news and online? The -- we're watching absenteeism. We're doing everything that we've done for the last 1.5 years to ensure the health and safety of our associates, and ensure that we can operate effectively in each one of the markets. If there's an issue, we take care of the issue first based on safety and health, and then we worry about the actual operations, delivery of product. So we see occasional hiccups here and there that we're working through. I would say that it's very regional, and it's something that we watch every single day.

Matthew Bouley

analyst
#25

Got it. All right. Well, with that, I think we went into overtime a little bit here. So much appreciated, Gary. Congrats on all the progress with the business over the past couple of years, and best of luck in the next quarter.

Gary Michel

executive
#26

Thanks, Matt. It's been a pleasure to be with you.

Matthew Bouley

analyst
#27

Thank you.

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