Kernel Holding S.A. (KER) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
February 26, 2021
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Pawel Wieprzowski
analystGood afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. My name is [ Pawel Wieprzowski ], and I represent Wood & Company. Today, I have a pleasure to welcome you to the conference call, followed by a Q&A session to discuss current's half year 2021 results. Our state speakers are Andrii Verevsky, Chairman of the Board; Anastasiia Ivanovna, Chief Financial Officer; and Yuriy Kovalchuk, Corporate Investment Director. Now I'd like to leave the floor to our speakers. Please begin the presentation.
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveThank you very much. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the Kernel First Half Financial Year 2021 Earnings Call. My pleasure to present to you the Kernel financial results, first, for the 3 months ended in December 31, 2020, which is the second quarter for our financial year 2021. The company revenue for reporting period exceeded $1.3 billion. EBITDA reached $269 million; and net profit, $128 million. Strong earnings resulted deleveraging the company as well, the net debt-to-EBITDA standing at 1.6 as of December 31. And as well, our liquidity position remains solid with more than $250 million in cash and almost $900 million of ready marketable inventories. Now I would like to take you shortly through the segment performance in second quarter 2021. First, I start with, as usual, oilseed processing. Segment generated EBITDA of $24 million, representing a margin of $52 per ton of oil, which is down 39% year-to-year. Ukraine production of the sunflower seeds in the current season was 2.4 million tons lower compared to the previous level, which is a 15% decline year-to-year. And as a result, it's a gap between industrial crushing capacity installed and the harvest of the sun seeds in Ukraine. And currencies almost doubled, so reaching 5.2 million tons of deficit. It's intensified competition for the sun seeds, contracting severely the crushing margins. And at the same time, we see that farmers remain slow sellers in Ukraine, expecting future raising of the sunflower seeds prices. This season will be probably one of the worst in our history for the crushing segment. We expect to process 3.3 million tons of the sun seeds, down to what we already guided previously of 3.5 million. Full year crushing margins, we expect on a level of between $45 and $55 EBITDA per ton of oil. And on top of that, our renewable energy business line is expected to generate around $10 million EBITDA in financial year 2021. Infrastructure and trading segment delivered just another quarter of outstanding performance, contributing $161 million of EBITDA to the group results. Very obviously was a booster of the total segment earnings, taking the right position in the period of growing of soft commodity prices. At the same time, we can see that the contribution of our Ukrainian trading and grain export infrastructure business reduced year-to-year due to the margin construction, given the low grain harvest in Ukraine in the current season. Outlook for the segment remains positive. For first half, we generated $272 million EBITDA and expecting to add another $100 million in the second half of the year. The guidance includes already a reduction of our expectation for the grain export volumes from Ukraine to -- of 8.5 million tons full year 2021, down from 9.5 million tons initially announced. And obviously, we take an assumption that Avere trading results would not decrease much from the current level. And farming segment reported $107 million in EBITDA level in second quarter or $99 million, excluding IFRS 16 impact. We have contracted all grain of our own production for the harvest 2020, so the result is pretty much locked up. And full year, we expect -- full year financial year 2021, we expect to report $230 million EBITDA net of IFRS 16 impact and revaluation of biological assets, and this is up from our $200 million previous guidance. CapEx. CapEx program under the Strategy 2021 is approaching to the completion. Our new oilseeds processing plant in Western Ukraine is expecting to be commissioned by the end of 2021. The 3 cogeneration plants with our renewable energy investment project has been already constructed and completed, and 3 remaining facility has to be commissioned -- will be commissioned in the next financial year 2022. So this is a short presentation, and we're ready for your questions. Please go ahead.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] I can see our first question is from Michal from PTE Allianz Poland.
Michal Majerski
analystMichal Majerski from Allianz Poland. I just want to clarify 2 things what Andrii just said. First of all, you said that you expect additional $100 million of EBITDA. But is it for the infrastructure and trading segment or the whole group in the second half of the financial year? And the second question is, you said that this new facility in Western Ukraine, the oil facility will be commissioned until the end of the year '21. Is it the financial year or the calendar year?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveThank you for the question. The $100 million additional EBITDA contribution in the second half, we're expecting in infrastructure and trading segment. So the total, we believe, we should generate around $370 million for the segment. And the crushing plant for the Western Ukraine, we plan it will be commissioned in the financial year 2022.
Michal Majerski
analystOkay. So by the end of June?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveNot by the end of June. It's going to be in -- within the financial year 2022. We expect in October, November.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Catherine Stronach from Columbia Threadneedle.
Catherine Stronach;Columbia Threadneedle;Analyst
analystJust wondering, could you clarify a little bit more on in terms of your CapEx? I know the majority of your CapEx is coming [ to an end ] sort of this year and carry on. But in terms of how much are you planning to spend on CapEx, please?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveSo for the financial year 2021, I'm talking about total numbers, we're expecting to spend total $179 million, plus $88 million of the maintenance CapEx. So the total amount, including maintenance CapEx, should be $267 million in financial year 2021, and this is pretty much the completion of all our projects for the last 4 years.
Catherine Stronach;Columbia Threadneedle;Analyst
analystOkay. So then as an average CapEx going forward, you'd expect this to drop off to what sort of level?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executivePretty much, at the moment, we don't have any plans for the CapEx for 2022, just a minor one, to finalize the maybe crushing plants, et cetera. So I'm talking about $10 million and our normal maintenance CapEx of the $60 million for the 2021.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from [ Christian Farlos ] from Adamant Capital.
Christian Farlos;Adamant Capital;Analyst
analystJust a couple of questions on my side. I think you mentioned in the report that your trading and transshipment margin has gone down this year versus last year. Could you sort of give us a ballpark estimate of that figure where it is roughly, if you could? Is it around $10, $15 and where was it last year? So the whole sort of chain? That's one question. Yes. Maybe I'll just start with one.
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveSo the true is that the infrastructure and grain trading segment in Ukraine is also under pressure because we have less crop size in Ukraine. And for example, on the trading margins, pure trading margin on the grain, we almost have the 0 margins compared to the $4, $5 last year. And also the terminal and railway wagons as well under the pressure. So we have less earnings on our railway wagons business because the supply is really low this year. And for example, right now, we already almost parked like a 30% of our railway cars. And obviously, every terminal in Ukraine is also fighting for utilization and throughput and putting fees, transshipment fees down. So the margins also came off as well. So I would say, generally speaking, for the whole line of the grain and infrastructure segment starting from grain trading, railway cars, terminal fees, we have the construction of the margins compared to the last.
Christian Farlos;Adamant Capital;Analyst
analystOkay. Could you give us maybe a figure or -- I mean, if you're willing to disclose on where it is right now, is it $10, $15?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveWe don't disclose the margins by particular lines. So we -- because we look at it pretty much on a whole chain altogether. So -- but I can tell you that we see this margin is under pressure this season just because of -- mainly because of volume of supply in Ukraine.
Christian Farlos;Adamant Capital;Analyst
analystOkay. And then also, could you say on the farming segment where you expect the IFRS 16 impact for the year as a whole? I believe it's around $49 -- $49 million at the moment. Is this going to go up from this level, do you think?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveAnastasiia, correct me. It's a bit higher than $46 million. Anastasiia , could you please give the exact number of 16 effect?
Anastasiia Ivanovna
executiveYes. It's a little bit higher, close to $70 million, but we have a special disclosure on this. Just a second. Yes, this is $49 million for the first half and should be close to $70 million to $75 million for the whole year.
Christian Farlos;Adamant Capital;Analyst
analystOkay. Got it. And then final question on unallocated expenses. So it's up to $23 million at the moment. Is this sort of a one-time thing that we should be expecting here? Or is this something that will be recurring?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveSo the allocating expenses, we expect around $65 million, but that's the salaries and all administrative expenses plus, including some bonuses because of the strong earnings this year. So the unallocated expenses will be slightly higher this year compared to last year just because of the -- we paid some bonuses to the management for the performance.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from [ Mylos ] from [ IRSM ].
Unknown Analyst
analystFirst of all, I congratulate for the very strong performance. I do have several questions. So I think I will go one by one so there is not any confusion. So the first question is, when should we expect some information about the potential results of the bid for the purchase of the gas cut Agro?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveSo for the gas cut, it's pretty, I mean, short. I mean at the moment, we are in the process of completing the deal. We got the approval from the antitrust, et cetera. But at the moment, as of now, we haven't done a completion. The deal is not done yet. So once we've done -- once the deal is finished and completed and signed, we definitely make the whole announcement, et cetera. But at the moment, deal is not completed.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. The other question is, does the Kernel plan to contract some more crops for the new season before the harvesting? Or what's contracted now it's basically all the plan?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveThank you. That's a good question. So we are actively selling next harvest, so 2021 harvest, so the next season already. So we sold at the moment almost 1.4 million tons of the grain for the next season and some sun seeds, some oil -- sun oil as well. So we believe that the level of the prices are good and the margins are strong because we pretty much already know our cost. So we would like to carry on to sell more to try to lock up the margin for the farming for the next year.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. So the other question, at this season we are dealing with a low amount of the sunflower ships on the market. So does the company have a capacity or maybe some plans to crush some other seeds like rapeseeds during the summer in order to increase the utilization of the plant?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveYes. We are currently working to try to crush some rape seeds at the beginning of the season, so in the summer. But unfortunately, we don't expect a huge volume coming from this, but maybe some volumes will be crushed. The margins will make sense, so of course, we will do it. Normally, we can buy rapeseeds from farmers and sell it as the raw materials and make the same margins without any crushing. So we will see where we'll make the arbitrage between farming and trading.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. So another question, does the company expect significant increase of the farming cost in 2021? I know that there is some increase in the fertilizer prices, steel, maybe salaries as well.
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executive2021, we don't see big spike. The budget already approved for next season. We already bought all fertilizers, et cetera. So it might be slight of increase of the land lease, but also not really material. So we believe that the budget will be more or less comparable to the 2020. So -- and that's why we're also actively selling 2021 just to make sure we locked up the margin for the farming for the next season.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. And for the last question, how much time it takes between commissioning the power plants that you are in process of and achieving its 100% production capacity? I know that in case of competition, it can take 3, 4 months even. How does it work with Kernel?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveIt's not about competition, but 3 already done. So it's started to work almost on a full capacity. And next 3 will be in the financial year 2022. During financial year 2022, we will finalize the rest. The last one will come from the new crushing plant of the -- on the Western Ukraine. So that will be the last one, probably will be in the second half of this financial year 2022.
Unknown Analyst
analystAnd power plants, they will be having full utilization even when there will not be enough sunflower due to the stockpiling before?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveYes. We hope that the next season, we're not going to have this issue. I mean there's a few reasons for this. First of all, we believe that the very high -- for example, right now, the sun oil price is on a peak of level, not historically, but maybe even historically high. And obviously, the margins, what the farmers make on sun seeds is enormous. So -- and what we see, the farmers are planning to plant, as much as they can, acreages of the sun seeds, same like a corn as well. So we believe if weather will allow us and will not bring the bad surprises, we should have a good crop next season, with good fundamentals for this.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Michal, again, from PTE Allianz Poland.
Michal Majerski
analystYes, I have the question, which comes back in the period of low crushing margins. Should we expect further market consolidation from Kernel, I mean from the perspective of market watchdog? Do you think it is possible to deals like [ All Seeds ] or [ BFI ] in the past or rather small deals, smaller deals? Or you'd rather let the weakest supplier to go bankrupt?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveYes. Thank you for your question.
Michal Majerski
analystWhat is strategy toward this?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveYes, the strategy is the following. Obviously, we are not interested in any small players to acquire. We're not interested in the facility, which is all the fashion and/or located in the wrong regions. We obviously are interested in a few targets with the new crushing plants, competitors with the good locations. This is a very tough season for everyone. And 100%, the crushers will suffer this year. But let's see the next year. If next year will be the bumper crop and the margins come back, we don't -- we might not have sellers again. But if definitely next season will be weak again, we definitely will have some sellers on the market. So it all depends on how much -- how big margins and how the crushers generate the profit, operating profit. If they will be profitable, we might not see them willing to sell. But if vice versa, of course. So it's very difficult to -- it's clearly opportunistic for us because we can't predict pretty much what's happening, what happen in the future. But we definitely are ready to move for the good valuation if they will put the assets on the market. They are actually on the market constantly, but the question is the valuation is high.
Michal Majerski
analystSo the big deal is relatively quite still possible?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveOf course, of course.
Michal Majerski
analystIt's not big enough, the block?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveWe would like to add $1 million or $2 million to our portfolio, for sure.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Philip from [ All Sports ].
Unknown Analyst
analystFirst of all, congrats on a great result on beating your 2021 target in 2 quarters already. My question concerns or 2 questions that concern, actually, the Avere activities. The first one is you mentioned $100 million for infrastructure and trading. Does this account as your target? Does this account into additional contribution margin from Avere? Or are you in this assumption any additional EBITDA from Avere will be like an upside?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveThe $100 million contribution, what we expect in the first half of the year, it's both Avere in infrastructure and grain trading together.
Unknown Analyst
analystGot it. And concerning Avere trading activities in Q3, given that we are already almost 2/3 in, is it possible to share like any outlook on how it's going? Of course, the final result it's impossible to predict.
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveNo, I mean, we don't disclose Avere on a separate basis. But what I can tell you that right now Avere is a little bit slowed down, and we decreased the positions and the risks as well. So the market is pretty high already, and the guys are going easier right now and slower. So I hope that we will not have the bad surprises going forward towards June. And at the same time, we have a drawdown in place. So -- and if market crushed and stuff, we still should be limited with the losses. I think we have a good perspective. Of course, there is still a chance of $10 million, $20 million, $25 million going up and down, but I think we are in a good place to finish in June with more or less our expectation.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Jennifer Passmoor at HSBC.
Jennifer Passmoor
analystCould you give any guidance or expectations around the oilseed crushing margin over a longer period of time? Perhaps -- you mentioned that the next season, you hope it won't be quite so tough. Perhaps over a medium, longer term, would you venture some guidance there?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveThank you for your question. I mean if I would know the margins, probably I would sleep better. But you can see on a historical level, it was quite volatile and up and down. I mean everything pretty much depends on the size of the crop. And I -- what I can tell you is in our long-term model and assumptions and when we use the assumptions for future acquisitions, et cetera, we use $65 per ton of oil as a conservative approach for the margins. But as you can see, last year, we had a higher, this year, we probably finished the whole year, $45, $55, so lower than average our margins forecast on the longer term. So quite complicated to be precise with the margins. But anyway, we have to use some assumptions and what we use is $65.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Jakub from mBanku.
Jakub Szkopek
analystCongratulations on the great results for the first half of the year. I've got one question regarding the hedging. You hedged like 1.4 million tons of crops that you will harvest in the next season or like from the 2021 harvest. I'm just wondering if you could elaborate a bit about what sort of crops did you have? Is it a wheat, a corn or altogether in the proportion that you are going to sell? Would you like to hedge all the crops until the end of the next quarter? What's your strategy?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveThank you for your question. So 1.4 million tons, it's a total grain. Some part, small part is the wheat, but most of the volume is the corn. And yes, that's absolutely right. That's the next harvest, 2021 harvest. We carry on to sell more. And if markets still continue, I mean despite today, but market keeps going up and we slowly gradually up, we're selling more and more volume. So I think if the prices will hold on this level, we would like to maybe go up to 75% of the total production to sell.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from [ Dmitri ] from Jefferies.
Unknown Analyst
analystI just have one general question and one specific one. One quite general question is considering overall decrease in harvest and expected decrease in export volumes for Ukraine. I'm just wondering, I'm just curious how did you manage just to show a good result in terms of the volumes for the Q1 and Q2 2021 against this kind of little bit negative backdrop in volumes. So if it's possible, just to elaborate on like kind of precise factors that contributed to your success in increasing volumes of exports. And the second question also regarding your exports trading operations. Did you see any changes to your exports mix in terms of the composition of corn, et cetera? And did you see any changes to contracts with the clients? Maybe you have introduced some more clients up for some specific features in contracts. If possible, would be great just to understand any changes with your clients and contracts for this period.
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveSo first question, I think anyway, the plants was much higher this season. We planted 9.5 million tons of export. And at the moment, we're working with the 8.5 million, so 1 million down. It's still higher volume than the last year. Last year, we did 7.8 million, 7.9 million. So still higher than the last year, but still -- but anyway, at the same time, a more poor result and we're not really meeting our target in terms of volume. Why we're still going better than last year? Obviously, we commissioned our terminal. We have right now one of the best terminal in Ukraine. So with the huge intake of railway and also the trucks as well and also the loading rate, we have the best in Ukraine, the network of the silos and procurement, and I believe they're one of the strongest team we have. So potential of our team and our assets, we can handle way more grain. And we hope the next season, we're going to target it above 10 million, maybe 11 million, maybe 12 million. So let's see of the crop to decide. So what I'm saying -- what I'm trying to say is the fundamentals and the assets and the team are way, way stronger than the volume we are handling this year. So we have a good potential to do it even more. In terms of export composition, I would say it would still remain more or less the same with maybe some percentages vary, but the corn will remain one of the major crop from the grain. And in terms of clients, we can see right now that if China is growing, China is buying a lot of our meals and a lot of our corn as well. So it's become one of the most important client for us. But still, the other destinations remained strong as well and stable our clients, which we've been doing business for many years.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Nikolay from Insight Investment.
Nikolay Menteshashvili
analystJust one question left on my side. With a much lower CapEx and what seems to be hopefully higher volumes next year in financial year 2022, what is the plan around the cash flows if you don't get acquisition targets? Do you focus on further deleveraging or increasing dividends? And what's the longer-term thoughts around that?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveSo the longer term is -- we have an echo, excuse me. So in terms of the longer plan for the cash flow, first of all, we would like -- we still have the ambitious appetite to do some M&A deals in terms of crushing. Also, we're looking for increased infrastructure projects as well. As usual, it's all about valuation as well. We are looking actively for the land increase. Right now is probably not the right moment because the farmers are all across the board, makes lots of money, and they're not really selling anything. But the land reform is coming as well. So we would like to see what kind of earnings we will have in 2022. Of course, if we have extra cash flow, we'll definitely do some deleveraging and look around in terms of the opportunity we will have in the 2022, 2023. And as already discussed several times in the financial -- at the end of the financial year '21 in our annual report, we would -- management will present capital-allocation strategy in terms of the dividends, et cetera.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from [ Martine ] from [ Umpah Securities ].
Unknown Analyst
analystI would just want to ask about this over 10 million tons target for grains health for the next year. Will you consider also adding terminal capacity to manage to cope with such high volume?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveThank you. So our terminal can easily handle up to 12 million tons of volume. So we still have the spare capacity. But as well, we're also looking -- we can easily take the -- sign the contract for the throughput in other ports for the 1 million or 1.5 million. It's not a problem as well. Generally speaking, it's kind of overcapacity right now, and I think they're all fighting for the clients and for the goods. So that should be not a problem. But generally speaking, our terminal can do 12 million.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. And can you maybe comment more about the detailed result of Avere contribution in the second quarter. It's estimate of around [ $120 million ]. Is that correct one or...
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveI think you can calculate through the minority interest, if you want to. But generally speaking, yes, but generally, we don't disclose Avere on a separate basis.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from [ Kasina ] from [ Loomis Sayles ].
Unknown Analyst
analystI wanted to ask you about your leverage target. And my second question is, how much EBITDA upside do you see once the facilities are commissioned in 2022? So in terms of the EBITDA side per annum going forward?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveSo the leverage, usually, our strategy and our policy is to have not more than 2x net debt to EBITDA. So this year, right now, we're currently 1.6%. So we still have space if we want to. So sometimes, we exceed it, too, but we're trying -- as a management policy, we try not to. So answer your question, 2x net debt to EBITDA, this is what we would like to see in the deal world. In terms of the EBITDA contribution for the future, I mean it's quite long question. Obviously, once we commission the new crushing plant, you can add 1 million ton of crushing capacity with the average margin, let's say, $60, $65. So we definitely should add some volume on infrastructure and trading segment. So if next year allowed us, we should do 10 million, 11 million tons of export with the more or less normalized margins on terminal railway wagons, et cetera. So -- and Avere will obviously stay very volatile and opportunistic, depends how the traders will do the job. And the farming next year, I would say, it should be -- if we -- if everything goes well and we sell at this level more or less 70%, 75%, we have a good chance to repeat the results of this year. So that's the nutshell what I can tell you.
Operator
operatorOur final question comes from [ Mylos ] from [ IRSM ] again.
Unknown Analyst
analystI think that you shared a little bit with your last sentences the response to my question. This is a follow-up question because given that you said that you approved the budget for the farming and that you have sold a significant portion of the crops, if we assume that the yields will be nothing special, so average, not good, not bad, the predicted EBITDA per hectare of the lands, what do you think could be?
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveWhat I can tell you, again, that what I just said, if we would -- if prices not drop significantly, they will manage to sell because we can't sell 100% anyway because we have to take the buffer of 20%, 25% for some yield movements. So -- but we will be still open anyway for 20%, 25%. But let's see what the prices will do. But if we manage to sell 70%, 75% and prices will not drop dramatically in the next season, costs already pretty much fixed. So we have a good chance to repeat these numbers -- this season numbers.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] And we have no further questions, so I will hand it back to management for closing remarks.
Andrey Mikhaylovych
executiveThank you very much for your questions. It was a long call, maybe not, 45 minutes, yes. Thank you very much. Anyway, if you have any additional questions, you can always contact us, and we try to provide you information. Thank you very much. Bye-bye.
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect.
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