Kerry Group plc (KRZ) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 4, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorGood day, and welcome to the Kerry Group Third Quarter 2020 IMS Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to William Lynch, Head of Investor Relations for Kerry Group. Please go ahead, sir.
William Lynch
executiveGood morning, everyone, and thank you for dialing in to Kerry's third quarter interim management statement investor call. As per our interim results update, we are hosting today's call from different locations, so please bear with us if things are not quite as smooth as they would normally be. I'm joined on the call by our CEO, Edmond Scanlon; and our CFO, Marguerite Larkin. Edmond and Marguerite will take you through a brief presentation, capturing the key points of this morning's results update. And following the presentation, we will open the lines for your questions. Before we begin, please note the usual disclaimer regarding forward-looking statements. I will now hand over to Edmond.
Edmond Scanlon
executiveThank you, William, and good morning, everyone, and thanks for dialing in this morning. Over the next 10 to 15 minutes or so, Marguerite and I will update you on our business performance, and we'll also outline the progress we've made across a number of strategic fronts during this last quarter. So starting with Slide 4, which gives a good snapshot of the dynamics we've seen so far this year, which has seen significant variability and complexity across our industry. The agility and ingenuity of our teams in adapting to these changing conditions has been key to our performance in the third quarter, which was in line with the guidance we gave at the H1 results update. So overall, we're very pleased with the rate of recovery in the third quarter, starting firstly with the foodservice channel. We maintained a good trajectory of recovery through the third quarter, exiting the period back 10%. And this improvement was achieved primarily due to 2 main drivers: firstly, through a large percentage of our foodservice business being weighted towards chains and bigger players who have adapted better to the COVID-related restrictions; and secondly, we also had a number of innovations that were launched in the third quarter. Then on the retail channel, this channel continued to perform well. Key drivers of performance here were health and wellness products, such as immunity enhancements and probiotics, plant-based offerings and clean label taste solutions. On the M&A front, this morning, we announced 2 new acquisitions, which we're very excited about. Firstly, Bio-K Plus International, a company based in Canada. And it's a leading biotechnology company with a number of probiotics in beverage and supplement applications. It has a really strong science foundation with a number of clinical trials and unique claims around digestive health. It currently serves the North American market, and we do see significant potential to expand this business and leverage its technologies into different applications and into different geographies, similar to what we've done with Ganeden over the last 3 years. Then moving on to Jining Nature, this is a company based in Shandong Province in China, and it has leading capabilities in savory taste for the local meat, snacks and meals end-use markets. And we see great potential for this business to enhance Kerry's presence in the savory taste area in China. Of course, China will continue to be a key market for Kerry going forward. Just from a timing perspective, Bio-K has just completed, and Jining Nature is on track to close before the end of the year. So overall, we're very excited about the potential for these 2 businesses. And with that, I'll now hand you over to Marguerite for more detail on our performance.
Marguerite Larkin
executiveThanks, Edmond, and good morning, everyone. So now turning to Slide 5 to update you on our financial performance. On the right-hand side, you will see we have made strong progress in volume and margin recovery in the third quarter. Our group volumes were 4.7% lower year-to-date, and importantly, you can see the positive rate of overall recovery in Q3, driven by a significant improvement in our Taste & Nutrition business, where we had a volume reduction of 1.9% in the third quarter. On group reported margin, was 130 basis points lower year-to-date as a result of 2 key drivers. The first and most significant was the operating deleverage we experienced, resulting from a large percentage of foodservice customers being impacted by lockdowns and restrictions that were introduced across the globe. And secondly, the COVID-related costs we've incurred across our manufacturing footprint of almost 150 facilities, which have been partially offset by cost mitigation actions we have taken. Taste & Nutrition margins were 80 basis points lower in Q3, which was a significant recovery, while Consumer Foods margins grew well in the third quarter and overall by 10 basis points year-to-date. Now turning to our revenue performance on Slide 6 and looking at the breakdown of revenue components. The overall reduction in reported revenue of 4.5% was driven by reduced volumes of 4.7%, price increases of 0.3%, principally driven by increases in our Consumer Foods business and the adverse translation currency impact of 1.1%, and the positive impact overall from acquisitions of 1%. Moving now to Slide 7, and focusing on our Taste & Nutrition business, which had volume reduction of 4.4% in the period and 1.9% in the quarter, which represented a significant improvement on Q2. Within the foodservice channel, volumes continued to recover well since April, with Q3 volume 15% lower compared to Q2 volumes, which were back 49%. The retail channel continued to deliver good growth across the third quarter, with year-to-date performance particularly strong in the beverage, meals, snacks and pharma end-use markets. Our nutrition and wellness technology portfolio performed strongly to customized solutions incorporating Kerry's broad protein portfolio, fermented ingredients, probiotics and immunity-enhancing technology. And I'm pleased to say that performance in developing markets improved approaching prior year levels with lower volumes of 1% in the quarter and 2.9% year-to-date. And on trading margins, the year-to-date performance has been driven principally by operating deleverage and COVID-related costs. We have seen a significant recovery in the third quarter, as I mentioned. Turning to Slide 8 and looking at Taste & Nutrition performance from a regional perspective. Firstly, to the Americas, which had lower overall volumes of 3.5% year-to-date and 3% in the quarter in North America. We delivered strong volume growth in the retail channel, with the beverage, meals and dairy end-use markets all performing well. While in the foodservice channel, we saw a continued recovery in the third quarter, led by performance with quick service restaurants. Our business in Lat Am was impacted later in the period by COVID, and we have started to see signs of recovery in Brazil, in particular, as we move through the third quarter. In Europe, we saw a significant improvement in the third quarter with lower volumes of 2.1% versus the 17% volume reduction in Q2. The retail channel performed well, driven by beverage, snacks and meat end-use markets, while foodservice had a strong broad-based recovery across the region. In APMEA, overall, we returned to growth in the third quarter, with strong performances in China and the Middle East. The foodservice channel continued to recover with variability across the region aligned to local conditions. On the strategic front, we made good progress in expanding our capacity and deploying our technology capabilities in the region, most notably in China and the Middle East. So now turning to Consumer Foods on Slide 9 for a few moments. The business had a good recovery in the third quarter with strong performances within the portfolio, most notably the Richmond, Fridge Raiders and Cheestrings brands. Underlying business volumes grew 1.4% in the third quarter and 0.1% year-to-date. Including the impact of the previously reported ready meals contract, overall business volumes were back 6.1% year-to-date. Trading margins improved by 10 basis points as efficiencies were partially offset by COVID costs and market pricing. And finally, the performance of our meat-free ranges under the Richmond and Naked Glory brands was very strong, as both brands continue to take market share and to extend their ranges. And moving now to Slide 10 to cover off a number of other matters. Kerryconnect, I'm pleased to say that our deployment in North America is on track and progressing well, a significant achievement given our teams are predominantly deploying virtually in the current environment. Raw materials for Taste & Nutrition, these were broadly neutral, while we had low to mid-single-digit inflation within our Consumer Foods business. We are expecting Taste & Nutrition to remain similar for the remainder of the year, with inflation in Consumer Foods softening. Our net debt was EUR 1.8 billion at the end of the period. And on currency, we are currently estimating a translation currency headwind of circa 3% on the earnings for the full year. And finally, in summary, before I hand over to Edmond. Overall, our financial performance has improved significantly in the third quarter, with notable improvements in business volumes and trading margins, and we're currently expecting to see further improvements across both measures in the final quarter. So now back to Edmond.
Edmond Scanlon
executiveThanks, Marguerite. So before I get on to the guidance, I just wanted to give you a high-level overview of our new sustainability strategy, Beyond the Horizon, which we launched just a few weeks ago. We outlined the framework to you back in February, as you can see here on Slide 11, and it's centered around innovation enabling sustainable nutrition, which is core to our growth strategy and aligned to our purpose to Inspire Food, Nourish Life. So looking at the 3 pillars, as you see here, firstly, we're going to continue to partner with our customers to deliver more impactful nutrition and more impactful innovation. Secondly, we're going to continue to deliver on our own sustainability commitments, and we have a strong history and track record of delivery against all of our sustainability targets. If I take, for example, carbon. In the last 5 years, we've increased our overall business volumes by 20% while at the same time, reducing our absolute level of carbon emissions and reducing carbon intensity by 23% in the same period. We have targeted action plans on how we're going to deliver on all of these 2030 commitments, and we feel confident that we'll meet and build on these targets. The combination of achieving these targets, in conjunction with innovation, which I'll speak to in the next slide, will mean a better impact for our customers, people, society and the planet. So moving now on to Slide 12, and specifically on the area of innovation. Innovation is central to our growth strategy. So what we're seeing more and more is that sustainability is now becoming central to our innovation strategy. And there has been a significant increase in consumer and customer demand for health and wellness products that also protect people and the planet, which led us to setting our sustainable nutrition goal. So under this framework, we're currently reaching 1 billion people with ingredients that are defined as balanced and positive nutrition. And our aim is that by 2030, we'd be reaching over 2 billion people with sustainable nutrition solutions. And this growth target is not something that Kerry can achieve on its own. We're working across the entirety of our customer base right across the nutrition spectrum. The level of engagement and the number of dedicated sustainability calls with customers this year has been incredible. For me, it's one of the biggest door openers with customers that I see, as all commercial teams are showing our customers not only the value that Kerry can add to improve their products, but also how this will help them achieve their overall sustainability goals. So the slide here just has a few examples of what Kerry's capabilities can deliver for the life cycle assessment of a product, whether it be reducing carbon or water usage by 90%, reducing saturated fats and delivering cleaner labels, all while ensuring these products taste great. So just to close here, the key point is the drive towards sustainability, we believe, is a total win-win for Kerry and our customers, and we're really excited about the potential that we see here. So turning to Slide #13, in future prospects. Within Taste & Nutrition and firstly, in our foodservice channel, we're seeing good recovery. And we're continuing to partner with our customers on new menu developments. Our retail channel continues to deliver good growth, and we have a very healthy innovation pipeline and strong customer engagement. Our Consumer Foods business continues to see some strong performances across the portfolio, while we continue to selectively focus on growth opportunities. We will continue to invest for growth and pursue M&A opportunities aligned to our strategic growth priorities. And finally, while there remains a high level of uncertainty, based on current market conditions, we expect business volumes to return to growth in the final quarter. And we're forecasting a full year earnings per share decrease of 8% to 11% in constant currency. So with that, I'll hand you back to the operator, and we'll be glad to take any of your questions.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] We can now take our first question from Graham Hunt from Morgan Stanley.
Graham Hunt
analystJust 2 for me, if possible. You spoke about new opportunities coming from growth in the food delivery channel and foodservice, and I wonder if you could give a sense of how much that contributed to the recovery you saw this quarter versus recovery in existing volumes? And then how much do you think those opportunities are going to impact your strategy now as we're seeing lockdown measures reintroduced across a number of markets, particularly in Europe? And then second question on sustainability. As you mentioned, a number of your technologies can materially impact the carbon footprint and other sustainability metrics all of your customers' products. How meaningful do you think this could be in your existing portfolio, given most of your global FMCG customers now have net carbon-neutral targets? And is Kerry going to be a key partner in helping them achieve it? And is this something you've always been engaged with them on? Or should we see it as more incremental going forward?
Edmond Scanlon
executiveYes. Thanks, Graham. I would say -- maybe on the second part of the question first, I would say this is -- from a sustainability standpoint, what -- how we're thinking about that is that this is not something else that we need to do. We did update our targets and give you some more color in terms of what our sustainability goals are and what the big reach goal is from a nutrition standpoint. But it is important to recognize that this is not something new that we need to do. This is something that we have been doing, we have been working with our customers on, but I have seen a significant step change in terms of the level of engagement around sustainability, and the step change has really come more on the nutritional impact that we can help our customers to move along that nutrition spectrum. But it's not something new that we're doing, it's something that we've been doing for several years like the example that I just gave on the presentation there. In terms of foodservice, I would say maybe while we're -- and maybe just, let's say, talking about food delivery as such, because our impact really on food delivery is improving on the delivery experience for our customers. But the bigger point on foodservice and the recovery that we saw in foodservices that if we see the bigger players being better able to cope with restrictions. Restrictions have been imposed, lifted, reinforced over the last several months, and the larger players are better able to handle those restrictions. And like we said in the half 1, first point was that 75% of our exposure to that channel is orientated towards the larger players. And number two, we've seen a significant amount of activity, innovation activity from those larger players, both in improving that delivery experience, number one; but also the reinstatement of LTOs. So -- and so basically, what I'm saying there is that what we've seen -- or what we said we saw happening in Q2 with some of those changes that we flagged actually came true in Q3 and into Q4.
Operator
operatorWe can now take our next question from James Targett from Berenberg.
James Targett
analystA couple of questions from me. Firstly, just actually sticking with foodservice. So obviously, the return to your anticipated return to positive volume growth in Q4, is that, I assume, driven by your expectation of further improvement in foodservice volume? Or do you expect a reacceleration on the retail side? I guess my question on the foodservice is that some of your peers have talked about some restocking benefits then in Q3, and of course, as we see big markets like Europe would go back into lock down, there's a lot of concern that these foodservice volumes could pull it again in the fourth quarter. So I just wondered what gives you that confidence that you can deliver further improvement in volumes in Q4, considering that outlook for foodservice and maybe the benefit you got in Q3 from restocking -- from customer restocking? And then secondly, just on the margin, could you maybe give us some color of how the percent of COVID cost were trending in sort of Q2, Q3, and what your anticipation is for Q4, just to get an idea of to what extent that maybe those easing is driving the margin improvement?
Marguerite Larkin
executiveJust to take the second part of your question first, and then I'll ask Edmond maybe to give a perspective on the foodservice question. So in terms of the COVID cost in the second half, it is fair to say that we continue to incur COVID-related costs. You remember at the half year that we provided some detail in relation to the cost, they primarily relate to, firstly, costs ensuring the safety and well-being of our employees, including personal protective equipment, zoning, segregation and other employee support cost; and secondly, cost to ensure continuity of supply, including additional labor, raw material costs, stockholding and distribution costs. And they continue to be a feature just given the current environment. Obviously, we continue to take a number of short-term actions to reduce the impact of the cost, like we updated at the half year, and there's various measures that we have deployed. That being said, it is fair to say that an element of cost will continue. And as we currently see things, we would expect the net impact in the second half is to be similar to H1. Again, you'll appreciate many moving parts in the current environment. In terms though of the overall margin and the margin in Q4, we are looking at a further recovery in margins in the fourth quarter, with volumes improving and very much linked to volumes improving. And obviously, as I referenced, the COVID-related cost will continue. So maybe with that, I'd ask Edmond on the foodservice.
Edmond Scanlon
executiveYes. Thanks, James. And maybe just to follow on from the last question, just to maybe frame, first of all, our overall foodservice volumes improved from being back almost by half in the second quarter to 15% in the third quarter, with the run rate of 20% lower entering the quarter and 10% lower exiting September and exiting the end of the quarter. So in terms of, I suppose, maybe Q4, first of all, we're in the first week of November, and we saw October performance in line with 2019, which we're pleased about. We also see current trading as quite solid. And we have visibility on a number of product launches coming to the market in the next few weeks. So the combination of all this, I suppose, we believe we will be in positive territory from a volume growth perspective in the fourth quarter.
James Targett
analystSorry, sorry, just to clarify, when you said -- when you're talking about the -- in line in prior year in October, so are you talking about foodservice? Just foodservice? And when you just talked about that positive, sorry, return to positive volumes in Q4, again, is that about T&N or you also think foodservice will be positive in Q4? Sorry, just to clarify.
Edmond Scanlon
executiveYes. So sorry, James. Yes. So to clarify, I was talking about a -- from a total T&N perspective, October performance is in line with 2019. And in terms of the outlook, we do see volumes to be in the positive territory for the full quarter -- for the fourth quarter for total T&N.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] We can now take our next question from Jason Molins from Goodbody.
Jason Molins
analystYou've answered quite a few questions on foodservice, so I won't delve into that in any more detail. But maybe just in terms of some of the M&A deals that you've completed, can you give any sense of quantum of those combined deals? And maybe in particular on the Bio-K, the probiotics business, what sort of complementary opportunities that gives you over what you already had with Ganeden? That'd be something I'd be interested to explore. And then just sort of finally, in terms of your guidance, the minus 8% to minus 11% that you've set out, what are -- given we're at the start of November, what do you think are some of the key issues that maybe get you either at either end of that sort of guidance range?
Marguerite Larkin
executiveJason, I might just take your first question on acquisitions, before handing to Edmond to give some further color on the acquisitions. So firstly, we're very excited about the acquisitions that we announced this morning. In terms of consideration, the consideration for the 2 acquisitions we announced this morning was just north of EUR 200 million and towards a high-teens EBITDA multiple. So maybe just to bifurcate it, I'll hand to Edmond to give some additional color on it.
Edmond Scanlon
executiveYes. Jason, thanks for the question. So maybe I would like maybe to touch on both acquisitions, because we're quite excited by both of them. But the first one, in terms of Bio-K, first of all, it brings with it a very strong science and clinical foundation. There's a very strong ethos in this company from a clinical and a science background, which is the first positive. The second point here is that it is the only probiotic in the world that's approved by Health Canada in reducing certain antibiotic-associated conditions. And the third point is that it opens up a new channel to us, which is the health care channel. And we believe, in time, and I'm sure with some investment, we will be able to push more of our existing portfolio through this channel. And it also then gives us a slightly bigger exposure to the dietary supplement market, so quite complementary to Ganeden. We do see it evolving more or less in the same way as Ganeden. As we mentioned in the presentation, there will be opportunities to grow this business by expanding the end-use market reach as well as the geographic reach. So that's it in Bio-K. But just in terms of Jining Nature, that brings with it a strong local Chinese savory taste capability. It has a strong reputation in the local Chinese market for that capability. It brings with it a new manufacturing facility that they've been transitioning into over the last few years. And that's pretty much completed at this stage. And their focus has been on natural authentic savory taste, which would complement -- and those complements are on par from a food approach. And then in terms of the guidance, I suppose, look, it's somewhat similar points that I made in the previous question. We are in the first week of November. We have a relatively -- a decent level of visibility on how things are playing out. Trading is solid. And we do know we have a number of new launches kicking in here in Q4 and like we said we would at the H2 -- sorry, at the H1 presentation.
Operator
operatorWe can now take our next question from John Ennis from Goldman Sachs.
John Ennis
analystMy first question is on innovation rate. Comments from some of the FMCG companies have highlighted SKU rationalization and have suggested that innovation rates are still running down significantly year-on-year. I just wondered if you're seeing this impact to our business or whether these trends are now beginning to reverse? And effectively, how much of a problem is it if -- is it to Kerry if the number of launches in the market remains lower for longer within the food industry? That's my first question. And then my second question is kind of a follow-up on some of the questions already on the retail part of the portfolio. So you grew 4% this quarter. I just wondered, why do you think the growth has been below the trends observed for some of the other in-home food and beverage categories throughout COVID? So where we've seen kind of high single-digit growth for some of the U.S. and European end markets? Why don't you think you're not managing to deliver that level of growth in retail? Is it down to product mix? Is it customer mix? Or is there something else that we should be aware of?
Edmond Scanlon
executiveYes. So you're -- thanks, John, and maybe I'll take the first part, first on the CPGs and innovation of what we're seeing. I would say, first of all, I think we're past that SKU rationalization phase, and we are very much back into an innovation zone. In fact, like I said in the H1 results, that's -- we've seen customers move at a pace where the decisions made about launching new products, and I'm just reminded of a customer on the foodservice side that has brought a plant-based meat -- a chicken alternative to market across a number of countries in Europe in a 5-month period. And that kind of pace of innovation is unprecedented. But -- so I think, COVID is being somewhat of a catalyst for some of the CPGs to rethink some of their processes as it relates to new product development. So that's the first point. The second point is that speed and getting products to market fast is becoming an even bigger, I would say, goal of the CPGs. And we believe, based on our business model, that we're well positioned to be able to enable them to do that. And the third point, I would say that, as we are, I would say, coming through COVID, the trends are becoming more clear. Let's say, the post-COVID trends, if I can say that, are becoming a little bit more clear maybe than they were at the half 1. So health and wellness is -- and I would say, functionality, health, wellness and functionality improved. It is really accelerating, whether that's things like in immunity or just better-for-you type formulations are certainly accelerating, and we're seeing it across so many categories, especially in snacking and beverage. Sustainability, I think, is just becoming even a bigger topic. And like I said in the presentation, the level of engagement there is at an unprecedented level. And our biggest focus there, again, is moving customers or helping move customers and their products along that nutrition spectrum. The third point is convenience. I think we all understand that, and that continues to be a big factor. And the fourth point that I probably didn't touch on in the half 1 is value. So I think it's pretty well understood that we will be facing into a fairly significant recession here, perhaps. And value is becoming a bigger topic with customers. But the point here is that, when I'm talking about value, the type of conversations with customers are more like designing to value, developing to value, formulating to value, as opposed to, let's say, just cutting down on the particular, let's say, elements of functionality in the product. So it's designing and developing new products for value as opposed to just cheapening existing products. So I hope that makes sense, John.
John Ennis
analystYes, that's helpful. And my second question? Just on the second question on retail performance? Can you take that one?
Edmond Scanlon
executiveSorry, sorry. Yes. Sorry for that. Yes. So yes, look, we've seen volumes during the third quarter running at 4%, which is above our historic run rate of 3%. And I guess, if we were to look back maybe towards the beginning of the year, where our retail performance was in the zone of 2% in Q2 -- sorry, in Q1. What we did say at the time was that in places like China, where we had -- we're relatively new into that market, we didn't have exposure to some of the traditional categories like noodles, for instance. So that did impact us towards the beginning of the year, where those types of categories performed well, and we didn't have a significant exposure. What I can tell you is that as we take in China as the example and noodles as the example, we've seen demand for products aligned to the trends that I just mentioned normalized over the most recent months, so to a point that we've seen our retail business grow up to high single digits in China in the third quarter. So look, from our perspective, we feel that we will outperform our historic growth rates of the 3%. So we're in the 4% right now, and we expect to be in that zone and to outperform our historical run rates into the future.
Operator
operatorWe can now take our next question from Heidi Vesterinen from Exane BNP Paribas.
Heidi Vesterinen
analystMaybe on your Q4 guidance, please. Would it be possible to get a regional perspective on what you're seeing? And then the second question, maybe a few words on your midterm guidance, please, because at this stage, we're kind of behind on your various targets. So do you still feel confident on delivering on that going forward? And then lastly, what is your current thinking on further M&A, please?
Edmond Scanlon
executiveSo maybe taking the last part of the question first. I would say, from an M&A perspective, it continues to be quite busy on the M&A front despite the obvious challenges. The pipeline continues to be strong, and we continue to work on several projects. And as usual, as I normally say, it is hard to predict the timing of these projects, but I would say it's business as usual from a Kerry perspective as it relates to M&A activities. In terms of the midterm targets, okay, I think we are where we are in terms of, let's say, a worldwide pandemic. Clearly, if you asked me that question back last February, we would say we're absolutely right on track. We have made a lot of progress over the course of the year when you consider where we were in April. And I think this is something perhaps we will come back at through the course of 2021. But for right now, I think we're in the zone of getting through this year and see how things look at -- see how things look in 2021. In terms of the, let's say, the performance by region or the outlook by region, obviously, there's a lot of moving parts. But maybe taking a quick run around, we would say we're starting in APMEA first where we're quite, let's say, pleased with the fact that we've moved into positive territory in the APMEA region. That has been driven primarily by China, and we do expect that to continue in the Americas. I would say we're seeing a little bit of a different story between North America and Lat Am, with North America performing, let's say, relatively well and -- but with Lat Am being a drag. So we do see Lat Am being continuing to be lagging by virtue of the fact that COVID was later coming to Lat Am, and its recovery will be a little bit later also. And in terms of the European market, there was a significant recovery in Q3, and we expect that to continue into Q4.
Operator
operatorWe now take our next question from Cathal Kenny from Davy Research.
Cathal Kenny
analystJust 2 questions from my side as most have been asked already. Firstly, can we get an update on the investment in Georgia, your new meat facility? That's one. And secondly, just on Christmas trading from the Consumer Foods perspective and a retail perspective, how seasonally important is that to the overall business?
Edmond Scanlon
executiveYes. Thanks, Cathal. So on Georgia, we announced a significant investment at the beginning of March in that facility. Just to remind everybody, it is catered towards the meat and plant-based protein markets. I would say, work continues there in terms of expanding that location just from a capital standpoint, whether it's that equipment or buildings, that continues. It's still more or less on track. Obviously, there's been a lot of, let's say, restrictions in travel and what have you. But it's more or less on track, and we expect to have the first lines up and running there by Q1 2021, which was in line with our original -- in line with our original timing. In terms of Christmas trading for our Consumer Foods business, it is an important part of our foods business. We do expect a relatively strong Christmas trading period, I would say, from an overall perspective. From an underlying perspective, we expect foods to trade a little bit better in Q4 than it is in Q3 from an underlying perspective based on a solid to strong Christmas period.
Cathal Kenny
analystAnd Edmond, is it meaningful for the T&N business? Any color?
Edmond Scanlon
executiveNot really. It's probably -- Chinese New Year has probably got a bigger impact than Christmas.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] We can now take our next question from Charles Eden from UBS.
Charles Eden
analystJust 2 questions from me, if that's okay. So firstly, you mentioned the strong growth in your meat-free brands, the Richmond meat-free and Naked Glory. Are you able to update us just in terms of the growth rates you're seeing for these brands? And can you remind us what percentage of your consumer fees business today these brands combined represent? That's question number one. My second question is that you highlighted that larger customers are proving more successful in navigating the current challenges within the foodservice channel. Does this also hold for the balance of your T&N business? I asked because one of your key growth drivers in this year has been a strong momentum with the regional and local customers. So do you think we're seeing the balance of power shift back to the larger brands as a consequence of COVID? Or do you see this as a temporary effect?
Edmond Scanlon
executiveThanks, Charles, for those questions. I would say, in terms of the growth rates in our plant-based food business within Consumer Foods, I would say we weren't -- we just got into the market, I would say, about exactly a year ago. And in terms of quantum, I would say the scale of our plant-based business in Consumer Foods is in the zone of 2% to 3% of our Consumer Foods business. So it's grown significantly in a very short period of time. And I would say that there continues to be growth effectively week-on-week and month-on-month, and we continue to have a strong pipeline of new innovation coming on there, frankly, very much powered by our Taste & Nutrition technology and that, in combination with our Consumer Foods, let's say, go-to-market and marketing capability, that's a good combination there, and we expect that to continue. And we have some -- we have new technologies and new launches coming in towards the end of the year and into next year. In terms of your question in terms of, let's say, types of customers, large or medium-sized or what have you. And just to orientate, our business is pretty much split, let's say, 1/3, 1/3, 1/3, global, regional and local. But I think it's important, first of all, to understand that when we talk about local customers, we're not talking necessarily about small ones. We could be talking about local joints in developing markets. So what we've seen so far is that, certainly, some of the global CPGs clearly are performing very well. But overall, when you take a step back, the reality is, from a consumer perspective, going back to the trends that I just described, consumers are still looking for innovative products. So I believe there's still room in the market for customers regardless of scale and size, there's room for those customers to bring innovation to the market, and that will be appreciated by consumers. And overall, from a Kerry perspective, we're somewhat indifferent in terms of how we look at customers in terms of scale. For us, it's about pivoting resources or reallocating resources. And we've more than enough capability and enough agility in our business model to be able to pivot to wherever the growth is. So we feel somewhat indifferent about where it was. And I feel we're well positioned to be able to meet consumer trends and enable customers regardless of size.
Operator
operatorThat concludes today's Q&A. I would now like to hand the call back to William for any additional or closing remarks.
William Lynch
executiveYes. Listen, thanks, everyone, for dialing in to the call. I think if there's any kind of follow-up questions, please reach out to myself and our IR colleagues. And really, I thank you all. All that's left to say is just to wish everyone a very good day. Well, thank you.
Operator
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