Kyndryl Holdings, Inc. (KD) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

January 15, 2024

New York Stock Exchange US Information Technology IT Services conference_presentation 29 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Lauren Selman

analyst
#1

Well, welcome, everyone. We're so excited to have you here for our next session. Drive enhanced customer experiences with the power of data brought to you by Kyndryl. My name is Lauren Selman, and I am the Vice President of Operations for the International Food & Beverage Technology Association. We still appreciate all of you being here today. We're very excited to have you here in the Amazon Pay stage as well as the food service innovation zone in the other room, which we hope you've all taken a look at. And now it is my honor to welcome Kayla Broussard to the stage.

Kayla Babin Broussard

executive
#2

Thank you. All right. So thank you all for coming. We're excited to be here. So happy that you're going to spend your afternoon with us. We've got a lot to talk about, a lot of excitement around customer experience and data in general. And I'm the CTO of the consumer and travel market here at Kyndryl. We're the world's largest IT services provider, huge focus on retail and stitching together technologies and different solutions for our clients to solve their biggest challenges. So here, we're going to talk about how data is truly the foundation of the customer experience. You could not accomplish a successful customer experience strategy without data, right? So look at these 6 phases. And if you're anything like me, all you see is data. First of all, how do you understand your target market and audience, right? There's 5 generations of consumers that are in the marketplace now, and you have to cater and attract all 5. And they've got their own likes and dislikes, some prefer the human touch, some prefer more self-service, right? So you've got to create that buyer segmentation and truly leverage that data to understand them. And then we get to the promise, right, define what your customers expect from you. And what distinctive advantages separates you from the competition, right? What is your particular promise that keeps them coming back for more. Why do they keep buying from you. I'll give a quick example. I think we're all maybe familiar with DoubleTree. It's a Hilton brand. I have a short story just last year in our business travel booking system. I booked a DoubleTree Hotel. And sometimes my travel plans get delayed in that DoubleTree cookie, which I do love ends up being my lunch and dinner because I missed lunch, I was at the airport running from one gate to another. And I got there, and they were actually in the middle of rebranding. When I booked it, it said it was a DoubleTree, when I got my keycard it said it was a DoubleTree, but they were rebranding to theWit. So I didn't get my DoubleTree cookie. So that promise of that scrumptious DoubleTree cookie, I didn't get it. So every company, every retailer or every brand, you have a promise of what your customers come to expect, and it keeps them coming back for more. And then you've got the journey, right? You need to understand and create a clear road map of your customer journey, and it has gotten more complex than ever. We are all consumers in the room, and we are shifting from buying different devices at any time, both digitally and physically. So we're leaving a footprint or a trail of data across digital touch points as well as physical touch points were in the store. And so you've got to be able to pull all that data together to understand the true customer journey and create a road map. The measurement. Now you've got to work on determining the approach and the frequency, how often you're going to measure, how are you measuring, what metrics, what do those KPIs look like, right? And you've got a rinse and repeat and adjust, especially in the retail industry, it can be very volatile. There's a lot of external pressures and you have to adjust and pivot accordingly. And then the evaluation, establish the way you evaluate your customer feedback, what does that look like? And what particular steps, whether they're with frontline workers or they're with customer service, are they're with e-commerce? What particular steps are you going to take to improve those pain points, right? And then last but not least is the improvement. Devising a strategy to improve the customer experience through appropriate corrective actions, right? Again, if you look at this, it's all underpinned by data. I mean I could be as bold to say that data in itself is the lifeblood of the customer experience strategy, right? There's a lot of technology that's out there in the stores as well as digitally. The mobile app, the mobile phone has become our own personal companion. And you've got to be able to create a unified customer view and stitch all that data together. So the connected experience is driven by data. What you see is here is just a quick teaser of some of the different data sources you've got to pull together. In order for customer experience to be successful, there's tons of data being sourced from both the physical and digital worlds. And as consumers are moving again between the different devices, physically and digitally, they're generating lots of data, and that data is getting scattered across different platforms, different departments. It could be sales, marketing, loyalty, promotions. A key element is to create that single customer view, which is aggregating the data from all those disparate sources and bringing it together, the actions that, that individual customer and when they took them. So in essence, it's really the touch points that they arrived throughout their particular journey. So it's everything that you see here, right? All the online and store order history; two, you're empowered and committed frontline workers, store associates, virtual agents, all the in-store sensors, there's a lot of investments in IoT, e-commerce interactions to the meaningful insights about the brands and the partners, what are my customers and influencers saying about me on social media, right? It's that social listening, pulling all that data together. At the end of the day, data is truly the fuel that powers the harmonized experiences. All right. So sorry about that. I don't know why it's not working. But without further ado, I'm so excited to share the stage with someone who is leading the charge on experiential commerce. As it relates to grocery, please help me welcome Ana Rosa. She's the Director of Strategy and Customer Experience at GPA.

Ana Rosa

attendee
#3

Well, good afternoon, everyone. It's nice to be here with you.

Kayla Babin Broussard

executive
#4

Perfect. All right. So for those in the audience who may not be familiar with GPA, Ana, could you please give us a brief overview?

Ana Rosa

attendee
#5

Absolutely. So before I get started, can I see with a show of hands how many Brazilians we have in the room? Okay. So we're half and half, okay. So GPA is a food retailer in Brazil. It's one of the largest, we operate in a mainstream banner, Extra Mercado as well as in a premium banner, Pão de Açúcar and we operate both in supermarket as well as convenience/proximity stores. We have over 700 stores across 14 states in Brazil. We have almost 40,000 employees and we are now #1 food retailer in the online space. So that's an interesting achievement. And since we're talking about data and customer data, specifically, we have almost 30 million customers in our database. So that gives us a lot of material to work and to improve the customer journey. So yes, this is us.

Kayla Babin Broussard

executive
#6

Perfect. Thank you, Ana. All right. So let's jump right in. It's the exciting part. So I think we can all agree that knowing your target market and associated customer segmentation is crucial, especially to GPA, so what technologies and capabilities does GPA leverage to truly understand your customers?

Ana Rosa

attendee
#7

Yes. I think the most fundamental one would be the CDP. We just implemented last year the consumer data platform, a robust consumer data platform. And GPA, we have almost 80% of our sales are identifiable. So we have a lot of data that we can actually track back to the actual consumer who's making that purchase. And that gives us a lot of information. But data without the correct organization, it doesn't really work its purpose. So with the CDP, we're now being able to understand and decodify the purchase history of each [indiscernible] or each consumer to actually enhance or improve the offers that we give, so promotions, pricing, communications and decide the best channel, is it WhatsApp, Instagram, e-mail or and so on and so forth. So that's been super important in our journey to understand and talk better with our consumers. And something else that's been very interesting. We're not only doing improved offers based on the history. But we're also doing like multiple personas, right? So not big clusters as we used to do. So for instance, if you, Kayla and me, Ana. We have a very similar purchase history, but for some reason, Kayla has this taste for fine cheese and imported cheese and Ana doesn't really purchase yet. We're probably going to offer Ana with a very high chance of conversion because they are so similar and there's something else that we could offer Ana that she doesn't know that she wants maybe. So that's very interesting.

Kayla Babin Broussard

executive
#8

Thank you, Ana. I love that story. I mean, really getting down into understanding your customer, again, all driven by data. So clearly, you and GPA are doing amazing things in terms of really leveraging your customers' data. But the key is what kind of results are you seeing?

Ana Rosa

attendee
#9

Yes. So we're still in the process of rolling out very tailored and personalized communications and offerings. But for the use cases that we are actually using, this new methodology, we're seeing around 20% higher conversion than just the regular promotions that we used to do. So that's huge and has a lot of potential going forward. We're very excited about it.

Kayla Babin Broussard

executive
#10

Well, 20%. So you mentioned the importance of offering personalized discounts, right? But the reality is other groceries are doing the same. So what distinct benefits does GPA provide that establishes your unique promise and sets you apart from your competition? And can you explain how the data itself provides insights that lead to the meaningful experiences? And how are you able to determine which offers you're going to provide to specific clients?

Ana Rosa

attendee
#11

Yes, that's interesting. It's something we discussed a lot. So especially for Pão de Açúcar which is the premium brand, you're completely correct. So deeper discounts are not enough. Obviously, giving the correct discounts are very important because the client also feels like we know them, right? And that creates promoters, that creates fans of the brand. But other than that, we're trying to give meaningful experiences to our clients as well. And the data allows us to understand what is important to that particular consumer and especially what we call our most premium clients, which are the ones who have a much higher frequency. They go more than 3 times a week to our stores and they obviously have a much larger basket, much larger spend. And so an example of our recent one, we -- of our most loyal clients, the highest tier of our loyalty program. We understood who were the wine lovers and the specific wine lovers for this particular Argentinian brand. And so we partnered with the industry with that particular Argentinian wine, winery. And we took 20 clients, 20 of our premium clients to Argentina, to Mendoza to get to know the winery. So that expense really beyond -- sorry. Just the in-store purchase routine is just creating fans, as I said. And so that was a very interesting experience to our clients and to us. And that's we've been talking a lot about Retail Media and the fair. Our CEO, Marcelo was here yesterday, and he talked about the importance of Retail Media for the next upcoming years. And this is an example that it's not only ads and it's not only merchandising at the store, we're doing something else that is meaningful to the consumer. It's meaningful to the industry and for us as retailers as well.

Kayla Babin Broussard

executive
#12

Wow, love it. I wish some of the groceries where I shop with -- give me a wine tour.

Ana Rosa

attendee
#13

Not eligible to go to L street, but unfortunately.

Kayla Babin Broussard

executive
#14

It's working again. Great. All right. So now we're going to get to the journey and the measurement itself. So all these experiences are certainly a major part of the customer journey. How are you using the customer data to build a program that's actually shaping their journey? And how important is your loyalty program? And how do you keep the data from going stale?

Ana Rosa

attendee
#15

Yes. So the loyalty program is very important to us. I guess, you saw in the video. We were the first grocery retailer in Brazil to create a loyalty program. So for the Brazilians in the house, the Cliente Mais which was very iconic for many years. And then last year, we actually revamped the program. And now it's much more similar to an airline or an hotel chain loyalty program where you have tiers. And so with that, it kind of creates this gamification process where the client wants to achieve some missions and the missions obviously are frequency related and spend related. And so each time he or she walks to the next level. We have 3. They obviously get more benefits, deeper discounts, obviously, but also small gifts. So birthday, you will get a free cake, and a free sparkling wine and you get coffee like an espresso when you go to the store for the most premium clients. And so those are small things, but they do -- they're trying to, as you said, shape behaviors or give enough benefit so that the client will change behaviors to something that is beneficial for us and for them as well, which is concentrate the basket. So they won't go to Pão de Açúcar or Extra our brands, our banners only to buy specific fresh products or specialty imported products, they would go to fill the full basket because they want to go from Cliente Mais to Cliente Mais gold and then to Cliente Mais black to give -- to receive benefits. So that's we've been seeing since the launch of this new program, we have seen an increase in 10% of our most premium clients, as we call it. So we're still in a journey, but it looks like it's going to the right direction.

Kayla Babin Broussard

executive
#16

Excellent. It's always a journey. It's a never ending journey.

Ana Rosa

attendee
#17

I know.

Kayla Babin Broussard

executive
#18

So it's the small matters that do add up, right? So they add up over time and again, keep your customers coming back for more. So let's -- we talked about how you're using -- how GPA is using the data to interact with your customers. The one question I have is how you're getting the data.

Ana Rosa

attendee
#19

So I talked a lot about transactional data, obviously. So we get millions of transactions every month. And as I said in the beginning, we are able to trace almost 80% of our sales to their owners or their clients but we also have other very important sources of data, more related to the actual experience within the stores, which are obviously, our contact center. So when the client calls us to complain about something, it's not pleasant, but it has to be addressed. And thirdly, we have the NPS survey and we take this very seriously. NPS is actually one of the 10 metrics that compose our corporate bonus. So it is very -- we take customer feedback very seriously at GPA. And so we're now able to gather from 40,000 to 60,000 answers every month. So that gives us a lot of insight on what's going well within the journey in the store and what needs improvements every day.

Kayla Babin Broussard

executive
#20

That's a lot. So it appears that you're definitely collecting an incredible amount of data. You've got a lot of customers. You do a lot of surveying. How are you actually using the data beyond just determining the best ways to engage with your customers? When is the data leading you to certain operational? Could be frontline workers or customer service issues? And how are you leveraging it to rectify those particular pain points in the problem itself.

Ana Rosa

attendee
#21

Yes, that's actually very challenging as you probably experience in your own companies, but the idea is that the consumer feedback will guide us and will help us prioritize developments either in IT and technology, but also in other areas such as operations, commercial, pricing and so on and so forth, assortment and supply and so on. So I think interesting examples of what we've been doing is -- so for instance, in the NPS, I'm sure that if you guys use the NPS metrics, you will see a lot of comments on pricing and the price is too high and you have to do something about pricing. Well, that was very true for Pão de Açúcar. And so for some time, we're thinking that we should adjust, we should rethink pricing. But then going deeper into the analysis and going deeper into the data, we found out that actually pricing was not creating detractors. So people were talking about price because it's just we are a premium brand. So we are a little more expensive than mainstream banners but that's our value proposition. But what was actually creating the tractors, what creates the tractors is having bad service in the store, at the cashier or at the bakery. And so that was a great review for us because we strive to have the best care in our stores. This is a very fundamental pillar to us. And so we created and developed last year July or August this proprietary methodology where we trained 100% of our teams, of our associates in stores to try and work this around. So this -- and now it's become -- because you guys know that training your people once a year, it's definitely not enough but it became a milestone. Now we know that this is problematic. We cannot have bad experiences in store. So it just became a cultural thing. And we talk about that every operations meeting and the team is very empowered -- to the stores teams are very empowered to think. Well, I know that if me and my team down at the floor, we do our best, then we're probably going to be creating promoters even if we don't have a particular product in the assortment or the pricing is not perfect. So that was very powerful as well.

Kayla Babin Broussard

executive
#22

Great. All right. So now we're going to cover what GPA did specifically around evaluation and improvement. So again, you're collecting lots of data. You've got lots of customers, you've got lots of touch points. You provide omnichannel services. And it gives you the ability to make deeper insights. How has been GPA specifically benefiting?

Ana Rosa

attendee
#23

I think that the more data you collect, obviously, it gives you the ability of creating more insights and deeper insights, right? There's also a limit as well because you have limited capacity to implement change at the same time. But I think as I mentioned earlier, I think the word -- sorry, here is prioritized. And so now I mentioned the call center briefly and over 70% of our calls are related to e-commerce. So if you want to tackle something that is going to decrease our cost in the call center, but at the same time, it's going to benefit a lot the consumer journey. We have to tackle what is being more problematic and in our case, is sending the order with an item missing. And so this has to become an obsession. So once you find out that this is your main detractor in the experience, you have to go for win and double down on that. And so now we're deploying not only technological improvements to help prevent those kinds of situations where we send something incorrect to the consumer. We're also deploying a lot of processes to help avoid those situations as well. So I think prioritization is volume of data, obviously, being able to process that, but then prioritize because you have limited ability to implement things at once.

Kayla Babin Broussard

executive
#24

It's interesting, right, when we get or NPS scores, we immediately jumped to price potentially being the issue but once you really drill down to the details of the data, it was around the customer experience, right? And specific areas of the customer experience that you were able to focus your team on to have a corrective course of action. So and it sounds like it's been very beneficial and has definitely paid off. So again, you and the GPA team are clearly using data in a major way, very, very impressive, impacting everything from customer engagement, to the journey itself helping to shape it. To pinpointing problems and developing solutions. How important is your organization to embrace the valuable resource of data and one that is critical to creating your business success.

Ana Rosa

attendee
#25

It is very critical. It's imperative, I'd say. But you have to have this data-driven culture across the organization. Otherwise, you're just going to -- you'd just be making decisions based on opinions and who speaks louder in the room, and that's very dangerous. So in order to have to implement a data-driven culture, every cultural change is hard. It takes time. But I think the one most important factor is that you have to have support from the leadership team. So if the change doesn't come from the C-suite, it's very hard to get your ideas through. And luckily, we have that kind of support now. So I would say a data-driven culture and then obviously, having the right people in place, the right architecture, but then it's all a process that comes from alignments.

Kayla Babin Broussard

executive
#26

It can be hard, right? It can be hard changing from things that you're accustomed to doing, right, to focusing on letting the data guide you, right? It being guiding you to your North Star, focusing on that customer experience. Again, retail has a lot of complexity, a lot of challenges is a very dynamic, right? External pressures are continuously changing. So I think it was a wonderful, wonderful story. So we got 4 minutes left. I'd like to end by saying GPA has invested in Kyndryl in 2 particular areas. We are responsible for the migration and management of over 600 GPA servers, right, that they depend on running their business to Google Cloud, along with 250 critical systems. And so we're responsible for the call migration itself, the design, the build, the manage, the run. And secondly, we, along with their partners have built their customer data platform. So all the data-driven insights you just heard from all the wonderful stories that Ana just told, we're responsible for building that. There's always going to be enhancements, refining the data, refining the strategy, refining the metrics, seeing what our customers are saying about us, how they're shopping, if they're shifting from online to physical and vice versa back and forth. So it's been a very powerful experience. We're happy to be a partner, a trusted partner of GPA. I want to thank you, Ana, for your stories. They were wonderful. I definitely learned a lot. Please feel free to come visit us at Booth 744. It's on this main floor. We've got wonderful interactive retail simulations that actually pull the data together. They're focused on experiential -- retail experiential commerce. Some is leveraging location-based data, which is the next frontier. We also have a hands-on demo around electronic shelf labeling and dynamic digital signage. And then last but not least, I would be remiss not to say anything about generative AI. We've got some Gen AI governance solutions around human in the loop and Gen AI use cases specific to retail. So I want to thank you, Ana. It's been my pleasure for sharing the stage with you. I think your stories were wonderful, and I'm excited to see where GPA goes from here.

Ana Rosa

attendee
#27

Absolutely. Thank you so much, and thanks, everyone.

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