McGraw Hill, Inc. (MH) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 5, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Danielle Kloeblen
executiveGood morning, everyone, and thanks for joining McGraw-Hill's earnings call covering the fiscal second quarter of 2027. Joining me are Philip Moyer, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Bob Sallmann, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. During this call, we'll make forward-looking statements, which rest on current expectations and the current economic environment; these statements, estimates and projections carry significant uncertainties beyond management's control, as spelled out in the cautionary language in our earnings release for the fiscal second quarter ended September 30, 2026, the accompanying investor presentation, our Form 10-Q for the same fiscal quarter and our other SEC filings. Today we'll also be discussing some non-GAAP metrics, which in our view offer helpful additional perspective on how the business is performing financially and operationally—although these should not be treated as replacements for GAAP figures. You can find the definitions along with the GAAP reconciliations in our earnings release, in the appendix of our investor presentation, and on our Investor Relations website. Anyone who is listening to a replay of this call should be aware that these remarks reflect information as of today, November 5, 2026, and have not been updated since then. With that, I'll hand things over to Philip Moyer, our President and Chief Executive Officer.
Philip Moyer
executiveGood morning, everyone, and thanks for joining our fiscal Q2 earnings call. During this back-to-school period, more than 100 million active curriculum licenses put McGraw-Hill at the heart of the worldwide education marketplace. From an operational standpoint, it ranked among our smoothest back-to-school seasons, driven by upgrades to our technology and our use of AI that let us serve customers more efficiently and with higher satisfaction. We supported more than 60 million digital units and shipped more than 40 million books around the world, while resolving more customer inquiries more quickly and efficiently. That execution is turning into encouraging momentum across our businesses. In higher education, we strengthened our competitive position, posting continued share gains per MPI. While the news coverage tends to focus on mergers within higher education and inconsistent enrollment figures, we're actually seeing more access points emerge. Specifically, at our 25 largest campuses, retained class sizes increased 4% compared with a year earlier, driven by enrollment and better Inclusive Access sell-through. We're also continuing to grow our innovation and content via the Evergreen delivery model, which has now grown to cover over 800 titles. In K-12, win rates for our new ELA program are coming in above expectations—surpassing our 25% to 30% target range—including in open territory, with recent Science of Reading approvals in Pennsylvania and Colorado. On top of that, feedback has been favorable for our revised California math teacher materials, positioning us for stronger capture rates in that market moving forward. Those forward-looking signals give us more confidence about how fiscal 2028 is shaping up. Science of Reading laws have now been enacted in 44 states. Our bilingual K–12 literacy offering, Emerge, Summit and Soar—built to work alongside McGraw-Hill Plus and Stanford's ROAR Dyslexia Screener—was designed from the ground up for this super cycle. We also expanded our addressable market through two acquisitions: TeachFX, an AI-native platform for instructional coaching, which opens up the $6 billion professional learning market for educators; and Teachally, which plugs straight into teachers' workflows and accelerates our in-house content creation and localization work, unlocking markets that remain underpenetrated—including internationally, in places like Latin America, where a growing middle class is providing a tailwind. Within Global Professional, our digital offerings keep expanding—especially in medical, where agentic AI trials alongside top institutions are opening fresh possibilities I'll cover shortly. All of this strengthens our belief in the growth prospects before us. We are laying a solid groundwork for faster expansion. During the first six months of fiscal 2027, revenue totaled $1.2 billion, and recurring plus digital revenue accounted for 71% and 60% of the mix, respectively. Adjusted EBITDA came to $458 million, a 39% margin, which speaks to our scale, our efficiency, and our ability to grow going forward. When I started in this role, I noted that the final stretch for any new technology is difficult, and nowhere is that more true than in education. During this quarter, we observed educators, parents, and governments resisting and even placing limits on general-purpose AI LLM tools in classrooms. A lot of technologists fail to appreciate what is required to create edtech that satisfies strict state standards and evidence-based criteria. At McGraw-Hill, those standards have influenced how we build for decades, which is why solutions rooted in pedagogy and approved through rigorous curriculum selection processes such as ours typically wind up exempt from restrictions of that kind. In fact, a recent Morning Consult study ranked us as the most trusted provider for AI-enabled teaching and learning among K-12 educators and administrators. Additionally, this quarter Canvas—among the biggest LMS providers in the market—published a study indicating that Connect from McGraw-Hill ranked as the most widely used learning tool globally across its systems, with more than 11 million users. Meanwhile, we are observing a resurgence of demand for print materials in classrooms. Within education, both print and digital are necessary, yet numerous competitors are able to offer only one of the two. McGraw-Hill's capacity to provide both print and digital at scale genuinely constitutes a competitive advantage. I am presently 8 months into my role as CEO, and one of my central priorities has been bringing our organizations and leadership into alignment around our strategic priorities so as to generate stronger growth. Getting the right leadership team set up was a key initial move. I'm happy to share that two new business unit presidents are joining us. Both bring 25 years of education experience, having come up through McGraw-Hill: Robin Lucas takes on Higher Education, after heading our top-performing go-to-market team; and Jana Thompson leads K-12, where she drove several of the strongest product launches in that market. Under their guidance, we'll concentrate on sharper execution in our core. At the same time, we'll push faster on international expansion plus AI and other adjacencies, and we'll build up our enterprise capabilities. We need to function more and more as one unified organization, and we'll keep dismantling the barriers between internal teams so we can take our products to a global scale; that leads me to the reasons we're positioned so strongly to shape education's future. Large language models are ubiquitous and becoming less distinguishable from one another. As emerging standards for agentic AI technology begin to take shape, the market is coming to understand that value lies in pairing LLMs with top-quality content, rich educational context and teaching workflows, and McGraw-Hill is at the forefront. During this quarter, we sped up our agentic AI tooling for education. With Model Context Protocol, also called MCP, learners and educators can connect with our content in a secure, responsible way, and we keep outcomes front and center. We preserve both the productive struggle that's part of education and IP protection for what we publish, while still taking advantage of AI at its best. This Content-as-a-Service approach, built on trust, is generating real enthusiasm among our customers and technology partners. As our press release with Microsoft last week made clear, McGraw-Hill stands among the first major education companies to offer a Copilot plugin, which opens our content through MCP to current customers spanning K-12, higher education and professional learning. We also said today that we're one of the first big K-12 core curriculum companies to offer our own proprietary content to customers via Claude for Teachers from Anthropic. The model comes from Anthropic; the trusted, standards-aligned curriculum comes from McGraw-Hill, developed over many decades, together with deep teaching expertise and relationships that put us in classrooms at scale—and TeachFX, which we acquired recently, is already integrated into Claude for Teachers. Also worth mentioning is our recent collaboration with the University of California, San Francisco School of Medicine. McGraw-Hill material—including the well-known Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine—will be driving their clinical AI product, Curate, assisting medical students and residents during hospital rotations at the moment they need support most. Connections like this raise the standard for what we provide in the medical business, and I'm eager to share more on November 18 at our Investor Day, when partners from UCSF will take part in the discussion. We're also continuing to expand our range of AI tools, with nine AI learning tools integrated into our solutions currently available in the market. Our AI user base continues to grow, and during the first half of the year unique users climbed by double digits, along with robust proprietary learning interactions—over 80 million of them across AI Reader by itself since its launch. These figures demonstrate increasing adoption and engagement across our whole AI portfolio. As each of these initiatives expands, we're confident they'll begin generating revenue and profitability in fiscal year 2028. Before I turn things over to Bob, let me note that the next frontier of learning has arrived, and we're only at the beginning; we believe McGraw-Hill is the company uniquely positioned to lead, given the speed, the scale, the financial profile and the institutional trust that's essential to succeeding in this education industry. With that, I thank you, and I'll turn it over to Bob.
Robert Sallmann
executiveThank you, Philip, and good morning to all of you. The financial results we posted for the second quarter showed disciplined execution of our long-term strategy, and we remain on track toward a significant inflection in revenue and cash flow generation in fiscal year 2028. We stay committed to reducing gross debt and to managing the balance sheet proactively, as shown by our continued deleveraging during the quarter and, after the quarter ended, the extension of our maturity profile. For the quarter, total revenue was $632 million, a 5.5% decrease year-over-year. That result was favorable compared with expectations, even though capture rates in select mass markets were lower, while capture rates elsewhere remained at the high end of our 25% to 30% target range. First half revenue reached $1.2 billion, down 1.9% from the prior year. As a reminder, academic seasonality and K-12 shipment timing can cause revenue and EBITDA to shift between Q1 and Q2, which is why we focus on first half performance, and that is tracking to expectations. Reoccurring revenue for the quarter was $414 million, down 2% versus last year, and first half reoccurring revenue was $840 million, up 3.7% year-over-year. On the digital side, revenue was up 2.6% versus a year ago for the quarter, and for the first half it rose 5.6% year-over-year. The gains we're seeing in recurring and digital revenue reflect the way learning solutions get delivered and consumed, and that shows the long-term direction of our business. Our remaining performance obligation stood at $1.8 billion, which underscores both how visible and predictable our revenue base is and our confidence in the outlook. Gross margin stayed strong at 79.2% for the quarter, unchanged from a year earlier, and was up 130 basis points year-over-year across the first half of our fiscal year. Adjusted EBITDA came in at $251 million for the quarter, a 39.6% adjusted EBITDA margin, which is consistent with what we expected given the top line. We see our leading margin profile in the industry as something that will last, and we're confident about our capacity to keep expanding margins in the fiscal year and beyond. Now turning to the segments. For Higher Education, second quarter revenue came in at $213 million, a slight year-over-year increase even with a tough comparison against unusually large transactional revenue in the prior year. Reoccurring revenue rose 5.5% compared with a year earlier. First half revenue was up 4.5%, reaching $413 million, ahead of the industry, powered by 9.8% growth in reoccurring revenue thanks to underlying McGraw-Hill-specific indicators, which are still strong. We keep building share gains, in line with prior years. Higher Ed's trailing 12 months market share rose year-over-year, which offset fall enrollment that was flat to down 1%. During the first half of this fiscal year, the share of revenue coming from Inclusive Access grew by 400 basis points, reaching 58%. At Evergreen, our renewal base keeps getting stronger—close to 50% of sales reps say renewals have become simpler, and competitive win rates are up 20%. Value-based pricing is still providing a boost as well, reflecting what we've put into innovation, product, and customer service. In K-12, second-quarter revenue was $325 million, a 9.6% decline versus the same period last year, while first-half revenue reached just under $600 million, down 4.9% year over year; about $400 million of that was recurring and was basically level with the prior year. As I said before, when district orders land is a big reason we focus on first-half results. Our capture rate remains at the high end of the 25% to 30% range, excluding California and Texas Math, which demonstrates strength in science and ELA. With California Math, our Teacher's Guide is being well received in pilots, and those pilots are up 4x year-over-year. We've put money into professional learning, implementation support and academic coaching so we can more effectively meet the common needs of prospective customers. In Texas, we're seeing substantial strength in our math program for grades 9 to 12. The number of short-term contracts with state-sponsored curriculum is another reason we believe there are incremental opportunities ahead over the next several years. A multiyear ELA super-cycle, driven by structural demand, is what K-12 is entering. Our ELA program keeps gaining momentum, and that strengthens our confidence about growth in core and addressable markets in areas such as supplemental, intervention, assessment and professional development. Retention rates are climbing and the pipeline is expanding in our supplemental and intervention business, which is holding steady and putting us in position to grow in the second half of the year and beyond; in Global Professional, our medical business grew 7% year over year and now makes up the majority of segment revenue. As the impact of nonstrategic print fades, our revenue mix continues to improve. Turning to International, Q2 revenue came in at $51 million, up 1.6% versus a year ago, since our established worldwide supply chain managed to keep serving Middle East customers through the continuing conflict. Moving on to cash flow and the balance sheet: first-half operating cash flow was $190 million, $22 million higher year-over-year, aided by favorable working capital, and CapEx plus product development remained consistent with our expectations. We ended the quarter holding $233 million in cash along with $644 million of total liquidity, and we keep adding to cash through December. We additionally repaid another $50 million on our term loan voluntarily, taking cumulative debt reduction since the IPO to about $700 million. Net leverage now stands at 3.2x. We remain dedicated to achieving net leverage of 2x to 2.5x, and the multiyear K-12 ELA adoption window serves as a significant catalyst, since sizable multiyear agreements produce cash upfront. This quarter, S&P's credit rating upgrade acknowledged our progress—coming on the heels of the recent Moody's upgrade—and together these represent meaningful validations of our financial trajectory. Our capital allocation framework stays the same: reinvesting in organic growth, paying down debt, tuck-in M&A like TeachFX and Teachally, and opportunistic share repurchases. Turning to guidance: our first half execution makes us confident enough to reaffirm our fiscal year 2027 guidance. We anticipate revenue between $2.115 billion and $2.175 billion, with reoccurring revenue of $1.587 billion to $1.627 billion. We anticipate adjusted EBITDA will land between $750 million and $790 million, which implies a margin of 35.9% — that's a 50 basis point rise compared with the prior year. In addition, we still expect to generate roughly $400 million in unlevered free cash flow, with cash and GAAP taxes coming in toward the lower end of the $20 million to $40 million range. Every other modeling assumption is unchanged from what we shared earlier. Revenue growth in the second half is underpinned by solid RPO visibility, ongoing share gains, pricing, and the timing of school starts — and together these more than offset the somewhat softer enrollment environment. The signals we track—particularly across K-12—continue to support our forecast: a substantial step-up in pace during fiscal 2028, aided by the forthcoming ELA super-cycle. We're eager to lay out more detail on how we plan to grow and our multiyear view during our Investor Day on November 18. With that, I'll return the call to the operator so we can take your questions.
Steve Koenig
analystThis is Steve Koenig from Macquarie. Philip, MH is obviously an early mover when it comes to using AI in education, and I congratulate you on how quickly you've done that. What I want to dig into, following last week — you announced your content would be accessible through Microsoft Copilot via MCP. This morning you issued a press release about bringing your K-12 content into Claude. I'd like to understand which factors drive your choice to open your content to MCP and to integrate with third-party agents? And then, how do these efforts make sure the educational struggle for learners remains intact? And how will you safeguard your IP?
Philip Moyer
executiveSteve, many thanks for that question. It's only been roughly 3 to 4 months since we began discussing this, and we couldn't be prouder to be moving this quickly and to have all these press releases over the last few months, or the last few weeks. It truly shows the speed at which we're progressing, the innovation we're delivering, and the clear vision the entire organization holds regarding the future of education and AI. It also shows, through a lot of the press releases with UCSF, with Microsoft Copilot, with Anthropic — and you'll see more — that one size does not fit all. You've observed over the past quarter that classrooms, in many cases, want it either outside the classroom or fully ambient within the experience. In other cases, they want the chatbot front and center; in some cases, organizations want to be able to use their own chatbot. And the question you raise about how you protect your IP and then also monetize in that kind of world is precisely why we're building with this MCP technology; we like to think of the future of a lot of this as almost an app store. And anyone using our MCP interface must, first and foremost, hold a license to our content, and that's essential. And we have pretty substantial technology and security wrapping around our content with MCP, first and foremost, so we can protect it. And then the beauty of MCP is also that the experience can be exactly how the learner, the educator, the school wants it to be. So whatever chatbot or AI tooling they want to use, we can plug in that way. And we can actually see what's happening. We can see the kinds of questions, we can see where the student is — or where the educator is struggling, where they want more information, where they're engaging with our content, where they might not be. And so we get a much richer and deeper experience in being able to understand, and it improves our own authorship. And that capacity to both govern and stay open—plus getting additional data and deeper insight from the content—is exactly why we're advancing so quickly with this technology. We genuinely believe that in the old world, you simply take the PDF, you take our content, and it's all or nothing. Either you hand it over to the AI model or you don't. Here, with MCP, you can literally drill right down to the question, see it, and potentially even monetize it. The business model around this will vary. In some cases, it'll be a slight uplift on our price, and we're already discussing monetization with a number of organizations. In other cases, it could be a block of questions that you pay for, or elsewhere, with some large organizations, they prefer paying by the token; and so in all of those cases, this MCP technology lets us protect, integrate, and also monetize under the business model that fits each educator and student.
Steve Koenig
analystI'm curious — as you work through your first pilots and begin rolling this out, how do you see monetization developing? Are you likely to stay with this hybrid approach? Might it differ depending on market or segment? And then, how quickly does this turn into meaningful revenue potential for McGraw-Hill? That's all from me.
Philip Moyer
executiveThanks; we have two strategies for accelerating growth. The first is providing support for more students — more of our curriculum in more places, so to speak — and the second is offering more tooling layered on top of that curriculum; let me use the K-12 marketplace as an example. The acquisition we recently completed around Teachally lets us be fully customized in the classroom exactly as the educator wants — in the language, in the culture, in the localization that they want and that educator needs. And in that scenario, the student is quite distant from AI, but we can plug our content, our curriculum, into that Teachally tool. So Teachally becomes a route for us to monetize on the back end in support of that teacher. When it comes to higher ed, many professors as well as students want a chatbot that interfaces directly with the content. And in that scenario, we can either apply an upcharge. In the third scenario, as I believe I've mentioned, as we consider relationships such as the one we did with UCSF, we're actually in the hospital or with students, with residents for instance, or even, for example, in a pharmaceutical space where a tremendous amount of research is being done that leverages our content — that's a scenario where we can supply big blocks of tokens and big blocks of questions to universities. And so each of those business models — in some cases, it's one of our own tools that's supporting the classroom; in another case, it's an interface that's interactive. And then in the third case, it's literally wholesale access to some of our content. And we're seeing all three business models develop pretty quickly. And in fact, organizations, customers, actually request all three of those business models right now. And so we're — as we mentioned, our goal is to have as many organizations in this pilot as possible. This is one of the reasons we're so excited to make these public announcements — this is the opening of our beta for these products. And our goal is, by the time we reach fiscal year '28, to have fully formed business models with each of these different scenarios.
Keen Fai Tong
analystLet me drill down on strategy a bit. You've been moving really fast with MCP. Could you expand on how big an impact you anticipate this having on fiscal 2028 revenues and costs, and which key indicators you're watching that will drive monetization down the road?
Philip Moyer
executiveEverything begins, for us, with how many students and educators are engaging with our content — that tells us a great deal. So we want to get right down to a very granular level — not merely the licenses, the 100 million licenses we're selling, but specifically full-on engagement. That's how we focus internally around MCP and around our tooling; we're really getting right down to what the value of the paragraph inside our content is. So engagement with our content and the count of those curriculum licenses is a great indicator for us. And then beyond that, the places where we integrate, the ability to integrate and to be, I'll say, paid for those integrations, because there's simply more interactivity with the content than there has been in prior models — that tells us too that there's a value proposition tied to it; so think of it as more curriculum licenses, more engagement, and then our ability to be paid in more value. And so the pipeline around that is building. A lot of — at Investor Day, we're going to actually show some of these things, like some of the work we're doing with UCSF and things we're doing in the medical field; we're going to be showing Teachally and demonstrating how this engagement works, and then also some of our vision for how we can expand TAM with the opportunity.
Keen Fai Tong
analystThat's useful. Now, when you consider the effect throughout your company, how would you weigh the possible advantages for higher ed against those for K-12?
Philip Moyer
executiveAbsolutely. In K-12, from my experience, each classroom I visit wants the curriculum to feel like their own. They want it tailored to the students they teach. And frequently, if all you have is plain text, static text, it's hard to tailor it to the student experience you have locally. So the effort we — the acquisition we made involving Teachally and definitely TeachFX, these are 2 strong instances where you personalize deeply for the students, for your culture, for the localization, and that matters since we're a global company. And more and more, we must be capable of serving a worldwide audience as well as a multilingual audience and a multicultural audience. So our capacity in the K-12 space — there's an enormous emphasis on making it personal for the teacher and for that classroom. So it's going to get more personalized; in the higher education space, it's remarkable how, in many ways, so much information comes at these university students and also at the professors, and they must teach more within such a limited amount of time; and so this — they're shifting from just-in-case to just-in-time. So this lets us serve up, in bite-size chunks, exactly the section the professor is working on that week; they can distribute things such as playlists of content every week, and they can observe the interactivity of the content; and so in that space, you're truly doing far more bite-sized chunks; and in the higher — in the medical field, this is where we're especially excited; we believe the point-of-care space, the specialization space, that capacity to appear in a wide range of other places we could never have envisioned with some of the more static content formats we've had, and the capacity to provide literally an answer right at the moment of care, we think it's an exceptional opportunity. Given the trust that most doctors and MDs and DOs and dentists and physicians and so on place in our content, we're truly excited to remain a part of their journey through their whole life.
Henry Hayden
analystI'd like to ask a follow-up about your Higher Education segment. More precisely, we have noticed ongoing momentum and share gains relative to a number of your competitors. So, first, we're curious how you view whether that path can be sustained. And second, as you've moved through successive renewal cycles, how are the forces behind those gains evolving? Are institutional-level digital solutions increasingly acting as a driver and a point of differentiation?
Philip Moyer
executiveThanks, Henry. Truly an amazing team. We couldn't be prouder of this group. At this point we're at — by my count, this is the 41st consecutive quarter of share growth. The leadership at that organization has been remarkable. Given the execution that team delivers, I wish some of you could witness what I see internally with that Higher Education team. It's simply a world-class go-to-market team, along with the product organization. In the higher ed space, we're among the most innovative organizations; and you can observe what quality execution from this team looks like. What I'd tell you is that a few things deserve your attention. To begin with, retention in this marketplace is extremely hard, and in that retention we are world-class. We keep discussing this, and it comes down to the individuals who are on the ground alongside the professors, alongside the institutions, making sure they have what they need. The Evergreen model we have is, once again, a unique differentiator in the business. Our capacity to continuously update changing information for professors in a way that integrates directly into their workflow is greatly valued for this. And the last thing I'd mention is simply our capacity to price at the right level. Inclusive Access has mattered for students because it makes it simpler to ensure that everyone has the content for the class, and it also makes purchasing easier for the institution.
Robert Sallmann
executiveYes, and Henry, let me approach this from a financial standpoint. So, looking at the second quarter results, the fact that GAAP revenue came in flat is essentially due to the transactional revenue from the prior year being a very tough comparison. What I'd say is that the underlying performance of the business—when we examine activations and that recurring revenue—is growing at a mid-single-digit rate. When we look at the first half performance, it also supports that mid-single-digit growth. And in terms of how I think about the drivers behind that growth, as we highlighted on the call, enrollments are flat to down 1%. Then I look at where we're seeing the benefits, and pricing is continuing to hold up better than we had anticipated. We're going out and adding more value for our professors and for the students through our platform, and we're being rewarded with that higher pricing. That's generating roughly a 2% benefit for us. And then finally, those ongoing share gains—all the things Phil discussed around differentiation—that's the 3% to 4% benefit. So as we roll all of that up and I think about how we'll finish the year, the underlying business, again, is supporting that mid-single-digit growth.
Ryan MacDonald
analystPhil, could you speak about the K-12 business? Clearly, there's a lot of very encouraging and interesting commentary ahead of the ELA super cycle, with some early wins ahead of your historical market share capture rates in that 25% to 30% range. Can you just remind us how impactful some of these open territory early wins are for the larger state adoption cycles as we get into the next couple of years here, and what you're hearing in the early days on California Math and their feedback on your ELA product?
Philip Moyer
executiveAbsolutely. Thank you, Ryan, for the question. First, I'll say there's been some really exciting developments over this quarter. Sure, I'm proud that my home state of Pennsylvania decided to put us on their list for ELA, and Colorado too. Take some of the states or districts we won, like up in Washington — Snoqualmie, Lake Washington, and Seattle — those are three very, very different districts with very different dynamics and students, and I'll just call it teaching dynamics. Seeing this range of school districts beginning to adopt our ELA program is a really good signal for us. And certainly the fact that Colorado, where we scored 211 out of 212 on their rubric, and Pennsylvania too, which has a very complex rubric — and California as well. We were thrilled to make it through their process, and we hope to be on their list when they publish around January. So as we head into the selling season, in year 0 of our product, we're getting very, very strong feedback on our ELA product. I believe I've said before that the market, as we enter this coming year — or entering the cycle, rather — could be as much as an additional 10% beyond what it has been previously. And our capture rates are stronger than usual. Another thing that's exciting is that in open territory, we're sometimes seeing districts adopt us before we've even appeared on certain state lists — that's a really strong signal for us. And one of the most important aspects of the program is that we're among the only dual literacy programs that sit truly end-to-end within the marketplace, and that's growing more important all the time. On top of that, it opens up an opportunity in Latin America that we haven't had before. So we see this as an opportunity both in the United States and down in Latin America. As I believe I've said before—and we'll discuss it extensively at Investor Day—this shift toward what people call the science of reading is a global phenomenon, not something limited to the United States. So combining this comprehensible program with the ROAR Screener for Dyslexia that we just announced, our ability to compete in this market places us among the most comprehensive solutions coming to market this year—arguably the most comprehensive of any. That growth potential is, I should say, something that excites us.
Ryan MacDonald
analystTo follow up, the midterms clearly aren't fully settled yet — just a couple of days have passed. What caught my attention was Texas, where you obviously saw a couple of flips: Talarico won, and then Hinojosa at the governor level. I'm just curious — given the historical criticism those 2 individuals have aimed at both the Texas Education Agency as a whole and the Bluebonnet curriculum, what incremental opportunities do you see in Texas to perhaps operate in a better environment than this past year relative to Bluebonnet, and what changes do you think might be coming there?
Philip Moyer
executiveThanks for asking that as well; serving Governor Abbott for more than 12 years has meant a great deal to us. We've built some really solid ties throughout Texas and with districts, so the partnership we've enjoyed couldn't make us more thankful. That said, as you pointed out, Governor Elect Hinojosa, along with the school board's newly elected members over these past 48 hours — Governor Hinojosa previously sat on a school board down in Austin. My sense is she holds quite firm views about education. Looking at it from the outside, I think changes could be coming. What this really shows, I think, is how this market actually works. We've often said that the final stretch in education is tough, and that's exactly what you're seeing here. When we mention the confidence that McGraw-Hill enjoys from administrators all the way down to the classroom, that's the point we're making about why it matters so much: politics and requirements can shift instantly, so you have to be trusted at every single stage. That's why we're glad to back Governor-Elect Hinojosa and the members of the Board of Education.
Robert Sallmann
executiveAlso, I want to remind everyone that we've observed contracts with shorter terms, and we flagged that during our previous earnings, and as that continues to develop, it puts us in a strong spot if those contracts become available to us at an earlier duration than what we'd seen before. So we believe we're well positioned to keep serving Texas in a very meaningful way.
Marvin Fong
analystPerhaps I could ask about M&A. A few quarters back, I believe you mentioned having an active pipeline, and you definitely followed through on that. Could you give us an update on where things stand now? Do you feel you've met your near-term objectives? Or do you still expect to remain active in that market?
Robert Sallmann
executiveYes. As opportunities arise, we keep assessing them. I'd like to believe that whenever assets hit the market, we typically see everything within the education space. Beyond that, we also generate a great deal of proprietary transactions; so looking at our funnel, it remains quite robust for what I'd describe as more tuck-in acquisitions. We're genuinely pleased with what we've recently closed, since both TachFX and Teachally are TAM-expanding. And although in the — I'd say, during the current year, you won't observe a meaningful financial impact, meaning they could be somewhat dilutive to EBITDA and negligible on the revenue side for the rest of the year, what truly excites us is the capacity to expand TAM and gain access to new wallet as we head into '28. And once more, when we consider acquisitions, many of these are make-versus-buy choices; and in the end, when a great asset becomes available such as what we've just closed, those are the kinds of things we keep evaluating.
Marvin Fong
analystAnd then a follow-up: you said that screentime and print are getting renewed attention — more print, and an effort to reduce screentime. How should that shape the way we think about the long-term trajectory for digital in the K-12 segment specifically? Do you view it as leveling off at this point, or simply expanding more slowly when it comes to penetration? I'd just like to hear your latest thinking on that, plus what it means for gross margin.
Philip Moyer
executiveYeah. I guess what I'd say is that in the K-12 space, where we are, and where we have a heavier concentration of print, I don't see many changes. If anything, it really shows a competitive moat of ours: we're one of the few companies globally that can deliver both print and digital at scale. I've sat in classrooms with teachers where — sometimes, I'll put it this way, they're coaching us and other times they're complimenting us about how similar the experience is for them between the digital product and the print product. That is genuinely hard to pull off. And we're recognized for being able to span whatever modality of learning is involved, worldwide. Another thing I've mentioned: back when we won the Seattle School District for our ELA program, one of the top questions from the school board during the approval process was whether we could guarantee that our students, our children in K-5, would not spend more than 20 minutes a week — 7% of the instructional time — on a screen, and we can, because we do it in a really ambient, beautiful way in the background. That's when assessment happens, but what we put front and center is print, which is proving better and better for students with lower self-regulation; they tend to want more print because they don't drift. It's also — I think you're also seeing a backlash from what we call the tool overload problem, where the average district has roughly 2,400 learning tools, and they're seeking simplification. We put out a report, a Global Education Report, this past quarter as well, which talked about the fact that 81% of educators will trust AI embedded in the existing curriculum products they have — the things approved to be in the classroom with third-party certification — versus just stand-alone chatbots or stand-alone technology tools. So we see this as simply a deepening of what we consider a great competitive moat, and a deepening of the trust we have, because we can deliver the modality that's appropriate for the student at the appropriate point in their life. Honestly, though, I just can't picture a major shift happening — because we've already reached that point. Both modalities are already covered by us.
Jeff Silber
analystI'd like to go back to one of those election-related questions. We discussed Texas, and I appreciate that. But clearly a great deal shifted—not just at the federal level, but even more so with some of the state governors. Is there anything in particular worth flagging that could be either positive or negative for the industry or for your company?
Philip Moyer
executiveLet me just say that, from my vantage point—and like everyone right now, I'm still absorbing the election results—what I'd note is that education was on the ballot. One thing that strikes me as really clear is that everyone has come to recognize that where we stand on things like literacy, where we stand on things like numeracy and the capacity to teach effectively, this is a top front-and-center issue for parents, for voters as well as for legislators. So if anything, as I look across all of this, I want every single candidate to be a literacy candidate. Every candidate, I want to be a numeracy candidate. And what I'd say is that when we look across the market, this has probably surfaced as an issue more often than at almost any point we've witnessed previously. So it's front and center. Our job in this situation, when there's this much attention on it, is to be trusted, to do it right, to serve with the right modality, to serve with trust, to build the tools the right way so that the right student gets the right—I'll call it—teaching technique. And one thing that's so evident about the science of reading: we're learning so much more about how to actually teach, how important professional development for teachers is, how important having trusted curriculum is. Pedagogy matters—how you teach and what you teach truly matters. And I think you're seeing an extreme focus on this. The fact that an Austin School Board member was elevated to governor in this short period of time is exciting. We want more legislators alongside us in this process; so I think it's an important moment, a seminal moment for education.
Jeff Silber
analystI realize you'll likely cover this during your Investor Day, but could we perhaps get a little preview of how the next fiscal year is looking and how we ought to think about the company's growth profile?
Robert Sallmann
executiveYes. And of course, we'll be devoting some time to that during — on November 18 at the Investor Day. So thank you for mentioning it. But again, when we consider some of the factors behind it, I pointed this out in higher education, which keeps delivering mid-single-digit growth no matter the enrollment. We're gaining share; we keep winning, and that will carry on. And when I think about our K-12 business, we've made clear how strongly positioned we are going into the ELA super-cycle; that will carry on as well; and then we're seeing genuine gains in places such as California Math; and I'll offer you one example. As we've worked through our selling cycle and moved toward next year, we're beginning to progress through that funnel, working down through the narrowing process and eventually getting to pilots. And so we find ourselves with 4x more pilots than we had the prior year. So all these elements are what let us look toward '28 and put the business in a good position going forward; but I look forward to sharing further details on the growth algorithm and where the business is heading on November 18.
David Karnovsky
analystPerhaps just a single question for Bob. I was hoping you might refresh us on how you're thinking about allocating capital. And inside that, particularly around M&A, you've mentioned before that there's an active pipeline. So what kinds of opportunities are you evaluating right now, and what determines what you can actually get done?
Robert Sallmann
executiveI'd say our approach to capital allocation stays the same. The first priority — and I mention this every time — is that we'll keep investing organically. Those consistently deliver the highest ROI. As we work through our budgeting process and examine our next-best investment process, we'll fund every one of those growth opportunities; and second, we then turn to M&A; and when we consider M&A and weigh it against our stock repurchase, which, again, we've shown a commitment to as well, we'll balance those 2. And if you look at the funnel, there are plenty of things comparable to what we just closed on, Teachally, TachFX; but again, that gets balanced against debt, and we remain committed to the 2x to 2.5x leverage target, and we're well on our way. And then finally, the last leg of that stool is opportunistic repurchases. I'd say it follows all 3 of those items.
Stephen Sheldon
analystWhen we look at holding the guidance for the whole year, I'm wondering whether any of your fundamental assumptions have shifted, particularly regarding the revenue growth picture across segments such as K-12 and higher ed — is anything different at this point, or trending in a different direction than what you anticipated when you first issued that guidance?
Robert Sallmann
executiveWell, I'd tell you that all of it stays consistent. We're gaining share, as I pointed out, in both K-12 — we're growing capture rates beyond math. You will see that we're picking up more share in higher ed. The single item that was a bit different, compared with my guide at the time we first gave the original guidance, was the 1% enrollment growth; at present we're looking at flat-to-down 1%. Even so, we continue to see mid-single-digit growth in higher ed. And so when I take a step back — and that's the reason we reaffirmed our guide, since those things all netted out — it still tells us that we're delivering against our commitments.
Stephen Sheldon
analystSo when we consider the ELA super-cycle, that's obviously getting a lot of attention. Could you maybe remind us how large you believe that opportunity could be? And is that something you're going to explore in greater depth at the Investor Day?
Robert Sallmann
executiveAbsolutely; we'll definitely provide more details. But keep in mind that 40% of our K-12 revenue comes from ELA. So since we've kicked off our largest-ever investment in that space, at our Investor Day you'll get to hear straight from educators in districts about what sets us apart. So although we already know what the market will look like over the coming several years, what we're observing is that capture rates keep rising and our program is connecting with educators and school districts. And we're eager to share that level of detail on November 18.
Josh Chan
analystYes. I'd like to ask about ELA, because you've all sounded very confident about it, and clearly it's a possible opportunity. I suppose, conceptually, what is it that gives you such confidence in the curriculum you're putting forward versus perhaps others available out there?
Philip Moyer
executiveSure. Thanks for asking, Josh. To begin with, I'd highlight plain frontline experience. I believe I said early on, in one of my first conference calls or early calls, that educators had actually been getting in touch, telling me they'd seen the materials and wanted to adopt it — in some cases literally before the school year ends — and that they want to join our pilot groups. It’s quite unusual for a CEO to be contacted directly by someone eager to adopt your product. The feedback we’re hearing on the ground when people handle and experience the materials — in a few of the districts I mentioned earlier, teachers attended school board meetings to speak in favor of the materials. That happened even before we had some of our third-party reports. We have several third-party certification reports that actually examine efficacy coming out over the next few weeks and the next few months. So receiving that feedback directly on the ground in these districts has mattered. The next factor is the pipeline we've observed, along with the capture rates on what we're seeing too — prior to the product receiving third-party certifications, those rates are coming in much higher than in previous periods. Third, I'll simply describe it as — I'd say, the enthusiasm that both our organization and districts share about being end-to-end and about ranking among the few market programs that are end-to-end and multilingual, something that's growing more important all the time. That also hands us one more, let's say, competitive edge we feel quite good about, and we're noticing it surface in the rubrics with growing frequency. Then there are the certifications themselves—I should mention the processes in Colorado, California, and Pennsylvania, along with the feedback we receive through those highly rigorous reports. Since these processes are open, we can compare our scores against others out there, and that gives us extra confidence. What matters most is that our team on the ground is out there. We have one of the strongest go-to-market organizations in the business. The team is in the districts, building the pipeline, and we can see the opportunities taking shape—which is exactly why we feel confident enough to have these conversations on the investor call.
Robert Sallmann
executivePhil, I'd like to build on that. In the discussions I've been having too, adding a dyslexia screener has mattered a great deal, and it keeps growing in importance as we enter the sales cycle for every one of our ELA programs. Beyond that, on the product side, McGraw-Hill Plus has done quite well. So delivering those data and that insight, along with the longitudinal learning record, back to educators has paid off enormously. I believe we've innovated, and that innovation is now visible as we go to market, and we anticipate achieving higher levels of capture.
Josh Chan
analystAnd then perhaps just a quick follow-up on something you said, Bob, in the release regarding speeding up growth into '28. Is that mostly because higher ed keeps expanding at about the same pace, with K-12 then sitting in a better place than it did this year, basically?
Robert Sallmann
executiveThat's precisely correct.
Jeff Meuler
analystThis is Callan speaking in place of Jeff. K-12 implied bookings declined compared with a year earlier. That follows a prior quarter which also fell versus the same period last year. I'd just like to hear about any callouts or what's driving that? Then I have one more question after.
Robert Sallmann
executiveIn line with what we said during the previous quarter, the pattern we observed in our Math program — it's really capture rates in math that were the cause; but once more, as we consider adoption cycles ahead and they shift toward ELA and back us going forward. So that is the main factor.
Analyst
analystThen I have one more question. I'm really excited about what might be possible given the leadership shifts you just announced. Is there anything specific you're most looking forward to as these folks bring their strategies forward?
Philip Moyer
executiveYes. We appreciate everything Mike Ryan has done across his 20 years here. He led the higher ed business brilliantly — truly extraordinary leadership — and the same goes for Sean Ryan; and both Jana Thompson and Robin Lucas bring more than 20 years of tenure in education. Jana was — she spent time at Pearson. She's been with us, and she has both a strong tech background and has overseen some of the most successful product launches anywhere in the K-12 market worldwide. Robin Lucas, as you can see, ran one of the most successful go-to-market organizations across the whole higher ed industry. So with that great — that deep product expertise and that deep go-to-market expertise, you're going to see us become more consistent and really drive better execution, in product and in go-to-market, worldwide across every one of our businesses. So we're excited about the leadership both of them bring, both their tenure and where they'll take us. It also shows how deep our bench is. We have an outstanding team here. The fact that we could elevate 2 leaders so quickly into these roles shows you this has been orderly and also speaks to the quality of the people within this organization. As you can imagine, we've elevated a number of other people within the organization too. And I'd just say I'm really looking forward to everyone getting to meet both Robin and Jana at our Investor Day. They're going to play a really key part, and you'll get a chance to see them in action and experience some of their leadership. So we couldn't be prouder of these 2 new leaders.
Operator
operatorThat appears to be all the questions we have. Today's call ends here. We appreciate your participation. You can disconnect at this point.
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