MEEZA QSTP-LLC (Public) (MEZA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

July 28, 2026

DSM QA Information Technology IT Services earnings 42 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Omar Maher

analyst
#1

Good morning, and good afternoon, everyone. This is Omar Maher from EFG Hermes. I'd like to welcome everyone to MEEZA's 1H 2026 Results Conference Call. I'm pleased to be joined by Mr. Mohamed Al-Ghaithani, Chief Executive Officer of MEEZA; and Mr. James Corby, Chief Financial Officer. As usual, the call will begin with a discussion of the key highlights of the period, and this will be followed by the Q&A session. And I will now hand the call over to Yaman Al Jundi, Investor Relations Director for the safe harbor statement. Thank you.

Yaman Al Jundi

executive
#2

Thank you, Omar, and thank you all for joining us. A couple of items before we begin. The investor presentation is also available on the Investor Relations section of our website. And I call your attention to the disclaimer on Slide 2, which is an important part of this presentation regarding any information provided and any forward-looking statements made. I'll now hand over to our CEO, Mr. Mohamed Al-Ghaithani.

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#3

Good afternoon, everybody, and thank you very much for joining us for MEEZA H1 results. We'll give you highlights about the first half of this year. We'll talk first about the growth drivers then the financial results, and we'll end up by operational highlights. Completed and turned over and start the MV4 expansion project. It was in June. It was a very successful project, although it was really difficult to project because MV4 expansion, 4 megawatt was part of the original MV4 site, and we have to do many integrations in all systems. It was done successfully with the help of our client and our recent commissioning consultants. Moving to the second site, which is MV6, the 24 megawatt. We have -- we are almost completing the foundations and ground floor works. We start also preparing for the columns and next phase of the construction expected to finish by -- in the next year end of the year, Q4. Are good and there in good progress. For MV7, we have completed the Stage-4 design and we are tendering now and we are in the last -- we have completed -- we are in the technical evaluation, and we expect by next month, we will be awarded the project and start the 16-megawatt project. MV8 is on track, expected to complete by Q4. We are on track. There is no issues despite the geopolitics issue. All of the projects have no issue in the supply chain or the construction itself. Moving to financial results [Foreign Language] this year is very good year. As mentioned before, there was -- despite the geopolitics issue, we have a 15% increase in year-on-year revenue growth, achieving QAR 217.3 million 9points (sic) [ 9% ] in year-on-year EBITDA growth, achieving QAR 62.7 million and net profit contributed to MEEZA increased by 5%. Year-to-date, the CapEx, we have spent around QAR 171 million. And our DC pipeline has continued to [ work ]. Operational highlights, we have secured QAR 1.6 billion Murabaha Facility from Dukhan Bank. This takes us to QAR 2.7 billion to secure our project funding. The Net Pipeline, we have a healthy pipeline around QAR 1 billion (sic) [ 1.3 billion ] This including managed service and solution businesses. The current backlog around QAR 3 billion (sic) [ 2.9 billion ] including long-term DC clients and building Black Arrow. Next slide, Yaman. So this is a highlight for our data centers. So we are continue growing. We have -- by end of this year, we'll achieve 22 megawatts. So already we have 18 megawatts [ live ]. And we'll keep continue and adding more capacity in the coming 3 years, achieving 62 megawatts, which is more than 3x the last capacity. As mentioned before, this is the pictures from the site in your left-hand side, most of the ground floor have completed and we start putting the columns to prepare for ground floor construction then we move to the first floor. The middle is [ construction ] for the MV7, both will have 16 megawatt State of the art. On your right-hand side, is the MV8, which is 4 megawatt, and we expect the delivery and commissioning by Q4 this year. Next slide. I'll hand over the financial results to Mr. James Corby, the CFO.

James Corby

executive
#4

Great. Thank you very much, Mohamed. Good afternoon, everyone. So starting with Slide 7, looking at the consolidated results for H1 this year versus 2025. As Mohamed said, despite the conflict, consolidated revenues grew 15.2%, reaching QAR 217.3 million with top line growth in the key segments of Managed Services and Data Center Services, also aided by the contribution from Black Arrow. This is the last period where data center revenue is not going to increase significantly due to capacity expansion. As you know, the 4 megawatts for MV4 extension came online at the back end of June. So that will impact Q3 significantly. Net profit attributable to MEEZA grew 5.1% to QAR 30.1 million from revenue growth and EBITDA flow through. Moving to Slide 8, stand-alone financial results for MEEZA. So excluding Black Arrow, growth in data center and managed services and cloud services was offset by lower solutions performance due to market pressure. This led to a 4.5% decline in revenue. Stand-alone net profit declined 5.2% year-on-year, further impacted by lower net financing income with lower interest rates and lower cash on hand as we're now funding 10% of the data center expansion from our own cash balance. Moving to Slide 9. Looking at the Q2 results for FY '26 versus Q2 2025. Q2 revenues increased by 9.5% year-on-year due to organic growth and the impact of the Black Arrow contribution. As a result, EBITDA and net profit increased by 14.4% and 5%, respectively. Moving to Slide 10. Q2 versus Q1. Comparing Q2 to Q1, consolidated revenues increased by 7.5% due to the improving market environment and Ramadan being in Q1. As a result, EBITDA and net profit increased by 25% and 18%, respectively. Slide 11. This is the gross margin by segment that we always present. Gross profit improved by 22% to QAR 67.6 million in the first half. The consolidated gross margins improved by 1.8 percentage points to 31.1% due to the increased contribution from managed services and Black Arrow. This was partially offset by lower data center gross margin due to hyperscaler fit-outs at the MV4 extension, which are much lower than the normal data center colocation margins. Excluding one-offs, the underlying data center margin was 37.1%. Slide 12, showing the profitability margins quarterly, pleasing movement, both EBITDA and net profit margins rose in the quarter due to growth in recurring revenue streams. Moving to Slide 13, the CapEx. As Mohamed alluded to, there's been a significant CapEx ramp-up during the first 6 months data center expansion with CapEx for H1 reaching QAR 171.5 million. Annualized return on capital employed is lower due to the increase in financing ahead of data center activation. Slide 14, cash flow and the financial position. Working capital and cash from operations has been impacted by the conflict with a slowdown in collections. Net debt position closed at QAR 170 million with QAR 140 million cash and QAR 309 million in financing. QAR 55 million in dividends were distributed in FY '26 on FY '25 results. We'll now move to the Q&A section.

Omar Maher

analyst
#5

[Operator Instructions] We take the first question from Phani Kanumuri.

Phani Kumar Kanumuri

analyst
#6

The first one is regarding Black Arrow margins. It seems to be at 38%, I mean, it seems to be higher than usual. Is this the run rate that you can expect in terms of Black Arrow margins? I mean I'll ask other questions too. So what is the CapEx outlook for this year? And the third one is on solutions. Like it has been a bit weak. How do we expect 2H to evolve from solutions perspective?

James Corby

executive
#7

Phani, thanks for the question. So yes, the Black Arrow margin...

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#8

I'll answer that last question about the solutions. Solutions is affected by the geopolitical situation. It's not affecting only Qatar, but the whole -- I think the whole world was affected by this geopolitics. We expect after deescalation of the situation in the region, we will -- we have a good healthy pipeline and we are competing in many solutions projects. James, you can take the other 2 questions.

James Corby

executive
#9

Thanks Mohamed, yes. In terms of the Black Arrow gross margin, we're expecting it to be a similar amount, really between 35% and 40% over the next few quarters. In relation to our CapEx forecast, obviously, it's going to ramp up more as MV6 gets more built or the percentage completion increases. It's really a dependency on MV7. As Mohamed said, we're expecting to award the GC of that building in August. So I can't give you a definitive figure at this stage, but I'd expect it to be over QAR 400 million.

Phani Kumar Kanumuri

analyst
#10

Okay. Maybe one quick follow-up. So in the light of the geopolitical tensions, like your working capital has come down. Do you expect that to improve over 2H? Or do you think the situation needs to stabilize for the working capital to stabilize?

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#11

I will ask -- I will take that question. The situation has improved really significantly in the last few weeks. We start improvement in the market, and we expect this to be continue. It's really -- we can't say a definite question to be improved or it will be, but we are in a good position.

Omar Maher

analyst
#12

Next question is from [ Yong Wei ].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#13

Hello.

Omar Maher

analyst
#14

Yes. We can hear you.

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#15

We can't hear him.

Omar Maher

analyst
#16

[ Yong ] could you try again please? We heard you for a second there. Okay. Perhaps we can move to the next one you fix your microphone. Next one is from [ Sid Bashir ].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#17

Hello.

Omar Maher

analyst
#18

Yes. We can hear you.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#19

I just have -- my question is really pertaining to the conflicts in the region. We've seen some data centers being hit in some of the neighboring countries. I'm just wondering how is that affecting the take-up of some of the capacities you've got coming up in the future like the rest of the MV5, MV6. Are those being put out now to be secured for [indiscernible] capacity? And of course, the second question is, should some of those situations that happen to other data centers come up to Qatar, what sort of measures are there? And is the insurance that will cover such situations, for example?

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#20

Well, it's really difficult to answer your question because nobody knows what is going to happen. However, we've been approached by the government as well as all other entities here in Qatar. First of all, the safety of people is the priority #1. And then second is all the critical assets for the government being secured. And we've been approached, we've giving feedback, especially here in Qatar is much better than the other regions. Hopefully, de-escalation will happen and the situation will come to an end. I hope I answered your question because there is no straight answer for that.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#21

Yes, I'm sorry to put you in the spot...

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#22

We are very optimistic. Qatar is -- the Government of Qatar is doing a very great job. And I would say that we are in a safe position.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#23

But does insurance cover such situations?

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#24

I don't think there is any insurance company will insure against war. So let's hope for the best and we pray for each other.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#25

And what about clients securing the capacity that you've got coming online? How much of that has been secured?

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#26

James?

James Corby

executive
#27

Yes. So yes, we've had a similar question or questions over the last few months for sure. I think there's been no change in our customer sentiment for signing the capacity that we're building. So as we said, 6 megawatts of the MV6 building has already been sold, and we're in the final stages of selling a further 8 megawatts that data center. MV7, we're very close as well to signing the contract for the initial 8 megawatts of that data center, and we've already sold 1.6 megawatts of MV8. So there's been no change in sentiment from our customer base in relation to taking on capacity that we're building.

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#28

And just to add that we are in contact with many other clients. It's still not mature. It's still talks, but we see there's a big interest in the capacity and the future expansion that needs a plan to do.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#29

Sorry, just on the follow-up question. Does that -- what's happening in the region, does it change how data centers will be designed going forward? Is there anything that can be done to make them more secure?

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#30

Data center is secured, but I don't know what exactly mean by more secured.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#31

I don't know. I mean the design phase, is there any changes in design safer or less prone to damage if hit? I mean I know this is just really hypothetical question. I'm just -- I mean, what's happened recently is it's a bit unprecedented, and it's catching a lot of us by surprise.

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#32

Okay. Well, the design is the most secure standards like earthquakes, floods it will handle [ stuff]. But other than this beyond our control, we can't comment on that.

Omar Maher

analyst
#33

Thank you. I think we can go back to Sid Bashir now.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#34

Am I audible?

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#35

Yes, yes.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#36

I have one question regarding the data center gross margin. So year-on-year, the gross margin was down 640 bps. I just want to know if this was caused by the low margin fit-out. And are you expecting the gross margin to return to the 40% now that MV4 is online?

James Corby

executive
#37

Yes. So I communicated in the call that the underlying gross margin, excluding fit-outs and other one-offs was 37.1%. Our guidance on gross margin for data centers has always been 35% to 40% -- the newer builds that we have, the cost per megawatt, the CapEx cost per megawatt, we've brought down. So yes, we do expect gross margins on the data center space to be above 35% in the coming periods.

Omar Maher

analyst
#38

Next one is from Phibion Makuwerere.

Phibion Makuwerere

analyst
#39

I hope you can hear me. Congratulations on the good results. I've got 1 or 2 questions to ask. So the first one is around the CapEx. Just wondering whether you have got the sort of an indication of how much you used per megawatt for the 4 megawatts that have just come online, what you actually realized eventually? That's one. And then the other one is on capacity. What was the capacity achieved this quarter? And the new capacity that has just come online, is it already running at full capacity or you expect it to gradually ramp up to maximum capacity?

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#40

For the new capacity, it's already sold out. So revenue will start...

Phibion Makuwerere

analyst
#41

I meant utilization, yes...

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#42

Full utilization, 100% for the full MV4 8 megawatts.

Phibion Makuwerere

analyst
#43

So it's running at full utilized?

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#44

Yes.

James Corby

executive
#45

The first question in relation to the CapEx per megawatt of MV4 expansion, approximately between $13 million and $13.5 million per megawatt.

Omar Maher

analyst
#46

Next question is from [ Ahmed Al Qahtani ].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#47

This is Ahmed Al Qahtani from [indiscernible]. I have a question and extension to [ Yong's ] question. On the insurance front, have you like noticed anything when it comes to prices? And if so, what's the delta there?

James Corby

executive
#48

I can take this one, Mohamed. So we have contacted our insurance broker in relation to cover for war. But the cost of insurance is extremely high and the limits are low. So it doesn't make financial sense at this stage.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#49

Yes, that's clear. What about say like regular, normal -- your normal insurance policy for the data center? Has anything changed on that front because of the geopolitical situation?

James Corby

executive
#50

No, we've actually done a pretty good job in terms of with our brokers to actually bring the insurance cost down year-on-year. So obviously, our insurance cost is going up because our asset base is increasing. But per megawatt, our insurance cost is actually coming down a little bit, I'd say.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#51

So policies in general haven't increased due to the geopolitical...

James Corby

executive
#52

No. Obviously, our renewed period is January to December. So it will be interesting to see what prices we get towards the end of this year for next year. I suspect there will be some cost increases. But I don't think anything that's going to materially impact our data center margin.

Omar Maher

analyst
#53

Next question is from [ Ryan Durham ].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#54

Congrats on a great first half. My question is regarding the dividend. How should we be thinking about the dividend from here? Is sort of the current level sustainable through the sort of MV6,7,8 build-out? Or should we expect sort of the dividend to be scaled back? And then my second question is on sort of the receivables level. Should we expect that to sort of normalize before the end of the year?

James Corby

executive
#55

Ryan, so yes, the dividend assumptions in our long-range plan is about a 70% payout, and that's still achievable with our CapEx and data center expansion. So yes, in our models, we've got a 70% payout. As you know, Qatar is a dividend-centric market, and the Board will always look to pay a dividend where possible. And what was your second question, sorry?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#56

It was regarding the sort of levels of receivables. Should we expect that to sort of come down by the end of the year?

James Corby

executive
#57

Yes. So as Mohamed said, things are improving definitely over the last few weeks. We've received quite a substantial amount of collections. We've actually also implemented a new order to cash system into our IT environment, which is significantly helping things as well. So yes, we expect it to get back to probably around QAR 120 million from [ lease or a loan ] by the end of the year.

Omar Maher

analyst
#58

Next question is from [indiscernible].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#59

I have a couple of questions. So the first one, you mentioned more than once that this positive result is despite the conflict. So what is the estimate in terms of this conflict wasn't there, the goals for the first half.

James Corby

executive
#60

Good question. The main impact for the conflict for MEEZA and Black Arrow. Black Arrow, first of all. So Black Arrow were unable to access some sites due to the conflict. Some of their customers Qatar Armed Forces, the airport, et cetera. So during the early stages of the conflict, they were unable to access sites, which has slowed down their solutions onetime revenue. And then for MEEZA, the overall economic situation during that period for the 6 weeks, that things obviously slowed down decisions obviously weren't being made during that period of time. So -- but that, again, as you can see from the results, impacted our solutions line. So I would say the conflict probably decreased our revenue by between QAR 10 million and QAR 20 million in H1.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#61

[Foreign Language] like wise. And then in terms of maybe follow-up question. In terms of -- due to this conflict, are you seeing more opportunities or less opportunities that may emerge post hopefully soon cease fires and conflict being resolved?

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#62

I couldn't hear you [ Aloe ].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#63

So my question is that post this conflict once it's resolved, hopefully soon, are you seeing more potential more demand post this conflict from government entities, et cetera, as we're hearing in terms of more diversified economy, more compute, et cetera, that may result in higher demand for you?

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#64

Our pipeline -- our there are many discussions. There are many potential projects, especially for data centers from clients within Qatar and from outside Qatar. So it's just been slowed down because of the geopolitics, but there is still discussion. We are in discussion with one client is a quite big site, but it's still -- it's not mature. Still we are talking about technical things slow down a little bit. But we think both this conflict, I think there is potential for growth.

Operator

operator
#65

Next question is from [ Ahmed Kamil ].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#66

We understand that Qai and Brookfield joint venture now is like will start or already started building their own data center. Is there still potential for MEEZA to do business with Qai? Does this anyhow impact your expansion plans?

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#67

We are in talk with Qai for their -- one of their projects, it's not the major one. They are planning to build their own data center, specifically for AI and their intention is to grab more business APIs here in Qatar with the help of Brookfield. Their strategy is quite different from MEEZA, but there are some collaboration and some projects.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#68

How much of the business of Qai when it comes to data center you are targeting?

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#69

As I told you, they have different strategy, their data center strategy is totally different than MEEZA. Their client segment is totally different than MEEZA. To be honest, I don't know what's the number that they plan to do at this stage.

Omar Maher

analyst
#70

Next, we have a question from [indiscernible] says, looking past the current investment cycle in DC build-out, what is the minimum revenue and EBITDA that MEEZA envisions at the end of the investment cycle in 2029, 2030?

James Corby

executive
#71

Can you repeat the question?

Omar Maher

analyst
#72

Looking past the current investment cycle and DC build-out, what is the minimum revenue and EBITDA that MEEZA envisions at the end of the investment cycle in 2029, 2030?

James Corby

executive
#73

Yes. I mean we've communicated this previously as well. I mean our target is to get our revenue over QAR 1 billion and have a net profit margin of in excess of 20%. I know that doesn't answer the EBITDA margin question. But yes, it's -- we're typically looking at net profit at this stage.

Omar Maher

analyst
#74

Thank you, James. And next one is the [indiscernible] that says why is data center performance -- why the data center performance in 2Q was lower year-on-year?

James Corby

executive
#75

Again, it's a good question. In Q2 last year, we had a one-off revenue adjustment, and that obviously didn't repeat because it was a one-off. But as I said on the call, this is going to be the last period for the next 3 years where you're not going to see a significant increase in data center revenue period-to-period.

Omar Maher

analyst
#76

Thank you. Next one is from Ankit Bansal. It says, given the ambitious capacity expansion plans and the resulting requirement for debt financing, what are your expectations for cost of financing going forward? And how much do you pay currently?

James Corby

executive
#77

You can see the rates that we're paying in our financial statements for the financing that we have. Our financing is very well priced. If not a QMRL, it's below that. So yes, our financing is very well priced.

Omar Maher

analyst
#78

Next question is, what could be the M4 site revenues likely to 3Q 2026, I guess, asking about the potential revenue base for the M4 in the third quarter.

James Corby

executive
#79

It depends on the -- obviously, the ramp-up of the hyperscaler using the electricity of the facility, but it could be somewhere around QAR 8 million upside.

Omar Maher

analyst
#80

And next, there is a question from Wei Chow. Wei could you ask your question please?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#81

Wei Chow is my colleague maybe he can use my terminal.

Wei Chow

analyst
#82

Can you hear me?

James Corby

executive
#83

Now we can.

Wei Chow

analyst
#84

Just a question in terms of your client mix in your data centers, how much of it is currently with the hyperscalers and how much of it is with local entities? And will this mix change in your future expansion?

James Corby

executive
#85

Again, a good question. Approximately 55% to 60%, probably close to 60% is now hyperscaler. And as we build out, as Mohamed was alluding to in the pictures that you saw, MV6 is a hyperscaler facility, so is MV7, MV6 is a 24-megawatt building, MV7 is a 16-megawatt building. And then MV8 is a 4-megawatt building and that is non-hyperscaler. So as capacity rolls out, the contribution from hyperscaler will increase. But currently, between 55% and 60%.

Wei Chow

analyst
#86

And is this coming from the same hyperscaler? Or is it a different hyperscalers? What is the concentration light.

James Corby

executive
#87

It's primarily from one, but we have between -- yes, I mean, I think we have 4 hyperscalers at the moment.

Omar Maher

analyst
#88

Next one is a question from [ Ahmed Shah ]. Ahmed if you could unmute yourself and ask the question. [Operator Instructions] will pause for a moment.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#89

[Foreign Language] am I audible?

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#90

Yes.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#91

Just a quick one on the 2028 on Slide 5, I believe. It seems that you guys have locked in some free capacity, but shifted a little bit to 2029. Can you confirm my read through on that and maybe give us a little bit of background on that side of the equation on the ramp-up?

James Corby

executive
#92

Yes. That is in relation to MV4, I think it's just a slight movement of 1/4 of the capacity, but we are bringing on the capacity slightly later, I think 1Q later, but more capacity is coming online from day 1. So the reason behind that is we're building more capacity to come online. It's just one shift in the quarter.

Omar Maher

analyst
#93

Final reminder in case anyone has any questions before we wrap up.

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#94

Any more questions?

Omar Maher

analyst
#95

No more questions in the queue. Mohamed, if you would like to make any concluding remarks?

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#96

Yes, of course. First of all, I would like to thank you all for trusting MEEZA, and I see a big number of attendees for this call. We have a very good half of this year, and we expect to increase -- continuing our growth in the coming few years. We will be more than happy for any investor who have to call us for more questions, we'll be more than happy to answer your questions.

Omar Maher

analyst
#97

Thank you, Mohamed. Thank you, James and Yaman. And thank you, everyone, for your participation. This concludes the call, and have a good rest of the day. Thank you.

James Corby

executive
#98

Thank you.

Mohamed Al-Ghaithani

executive
#99

Thank you.

Yaman Al Jundi

executive
#100

Thank you.

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