Mettler-Toledo International Inc. (MTD) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 18, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Stephen Beuchaw
analystHi, everybody. Thanks for jumping on here. It's Steve Beuchaw from Wolfe Research. Welcome to our second healthcare conference and our first virtual healthcare conference, which we've been doing now across a variety of industries, dating back to March. We were actually the first firm to do a virtual conference. And well, I think our team is doing a pretty nice job. Shawn, thanks for being here.
Shawn Vadala
executiveYes. Thanks, Steve. Thanks for hosting us. We very much appreciate it. And we also agree. Things have gone really smoothly today, and we've enjoyed being here.
Stephen Beuchaw
analystI appreciate that. Nice to have Mettler-Toledo. And then I know Mary is in the vicinity as well, Mary Finnegan.
Mary Finnegan
executiveHi, Steve.
Stephen Beuchaw
analystHi, Mary.
Stephen Beuchaw
analystSo Shawn, we're just talking. And what I suggested to Shawn is I think it would be really helpful if we started with just a little bit of ground work before we really talk about what's going on at Mettler. I mean Mettler is a little bit unusual in that the company has a Lab business, an Industrial business. But there's a lot going on in there, a lot of different customer types. I wonder, Shawn, if you could spend just a brief moment here, kind of reminding everybody about what Mettler, not necessarily what Mettler does, but who Mettler's customers are and what that mix looks like. Food is a big part of your business, Life Science is a big part of your business. These are essential categories. Could you just give us level set for us there?
Shawn Vadala
executiveYes, sure, Steve. Very happy to do that. So I think you kind of like implied in your question, too, like our diversity story is a big part of the Mettler-Toledo story. You see diversity throughout our business, whether it be the products, the applications that we serve, the customers, our largest customer in the world, end customer is still only about 1% of our total sales. But then you also see some diversity in end market segments as well, too. But like you said, there's some pockets here that are important that I think people are -- that's good to understand. And for us, what we're always trying to do when it comes to these market segments is to try to make sure that we're monitoring them. And then we're redirecting our resources in an agile way towards the pockets of growth and where we see that there's going to be favorable trends. And that's something that the organization has really been very conscious of now for a good 5 years or so. And certainly, during COVID, we've been very specific about trying to look at segments that are maybe more resilient and are positioned for a better recovery. But maybe now I walk through some of the key segments. So the first one would be Life Sciences. And so when we say Life Sciences, we would estimate that it's about 1/3 of our business. But when we define Life Sciences, just to make sure you understand our definition, we would include traditional pharma in that as well as biopharma as well as the CROs and the CDMOs and testing labs. And so like when we put all that together, we would estimate that's about 1/3 of our business. There's, of course, a very broad range of applications that we serve here within Life Sciences. We're in R&D and research labs. We're also in quality labs. We're in process development with our automated chemistry business. And then we're also in production. And so whether it be our process analytics sensors, and we have a very wide range of different parameters that we're measuring in the production environment. We also have industrial scales that would be used to like way bio reactors and things like that. And if you kind of like take a step back and we go maybe back into the laboratory for a second. We cover up to 40% of the instruments on a typical laboratory bench. And so that creates a lot of cross-selling opportunities for us. It also creates a lot of opportunities for us to help customers with some of their needs, whether it be automating workflows or whether it's around topics around digitalization, like our LabX software. We've been developing LabX for 20 years. So there's a lot of knowledge here. You combine it with our best-in-class instruments. It's a very powerful combination. And then LabX can help customers with topics like data integrity. It can also help them with things around productivity with automating workflows, and then it can reduce errors in terms of data handling. And if you think about it, we've done a -- some of our own research in about 3/4 of the FDA warning letters that we've looked at had some form of data integrity element to them. So we feel like this really is an important topic for our customers. And as companies increasingly use CROS, it helps them to standardize their workflows in the data management and controls around that. So we see that as really a key discussion that we've been having with a lot of big pharma companies and also just general Life Science companies in general over the past few years, and we see that trend globally. The next market segment to maybe talk about is food. You mentioned food manufacturing. We would estimate that to be around 25% of our business. We're also in food labs, too. So if you think about our laboratory instruments, they can be sold into to the development and the quality labs within food companies. But of course, there's also a big element of production there as well, too, whether it be our core industrial instruments that might be helped -- helping them with formulating things. We have formulation software. We have terminals. We, of course, have weighing instrumentation there, too, or our product inspection business. So product inspection is maybe the business that we most frequently talk about food manufacturing, because it's about 70% of our product inspection business. And so what product inspection is doing is that if you go to the end of a production line at a food company, there is a series of different controls at the end of the line. A basic control would be checkweighing. You want to make sure you're not overfilling something. Otherwise, you're losing money, you want to make sure you're not underfilling something because then you're not complying with the law. That was the original product that we got into for obvious reasons. But then over the years, we got into -- we did a lot of adjacent acquisitions. We got into metal detection back in -- I think it was 1998. Just -- actually '97 just before -- yes, just before we joined the company. They just completed the SAFELINE acquisition. A few years later, we got into X-ray equipment. And then more recently, we got into vision inspection. And what that's done is that's giving us the broadest range of products and technology at the end of the line versus other companies. We typically go up against competitors and individually in those product categories. We're not competing on the whole category. So it really gives us a very strong relative market position versus competition. It's also an advantage when it comes to our service organization. We can have a lot of synergies there with services. And then we can -- if you look at the size of our service organization, we're about 7x as large as the next nearest competitor in the United States. And so the key here is what is this equipment doing, like the metal and the X-ray equipment, it's all about brand protection and food safety. And there's a productivity element to it as well. And of course, we can also combine some of these technologies into combination instruments, which is also very well received from our customer base. The next category I'd mention -- and it starts to drop down now is chemical. And so chemical, we would estimate at about 10% of our business. So in chemical, there's a wide range of what would fit into the definition of chemical. On one hand, a lot of the business would be in areas like specialty chemical. So for example, this year, companies making disinfectants and hygienic solutions. We've seen them actually do quite well this past year. But on the other hand, you have like petrochemical in that category as well, not a major part of the category for us, but still it's part of it, and we have solutions that would fit both of those needs. And then -- and if you think about it, again, there's products on both the Laboratory side as well as the Industrial side would be sold into the chemical industry. We've had some good success also in the past in this industry more -- in more recent years like in China as they've increased safety standards around the chemical plants. They've had some issues in the past with chemical facilities. And so that's been process safety and safety standards has been kind of a key growth driver for us there as a recent example. And then once we go past chemical now, of course, we're getting into single-digit kind of numbers. And so one of the ones that stands out there, of course, is food retailers. It's only about 6% of our business. This is the supermarkets. We only typically focus on 4 or 5 key countries in the world. So a very different business for us versus the other businesses. But this is the -- again, the supermarket, and this is the product that the consumer might typically see if they go to a store. And then after that, you get into a wide range of key end markets. I mean academia is another one that would come to mind and that -- we don't have a good number on it, but maybe it's in the mid-single-digit kind of a range. And then other than that, it gets very fragmented pretty quickly.
Stephen Beuchaw
analystOkay. It was very thorough. So let's dive in on some of those points, and then we'll talk a little bit about -- we'll actually ask the CFO some CFO questions, I promise.
Shawn Vadala
executiveI'm happy to talk about the market, too.
Stephen Beuchaw
analystOne thing that has come up that we probably didn't anticipate in the early going, and it makes just a ton of sense now as we think about your business in Life Sciences is you do have a bit of a COVID-related tailwind. You are a part of the solution in a number of ways. And you and Olivier talked about pipettes, for example, is an area where a product area where there's just been a lot of demand can you help us to size up the COVID tailwind? And then I've got to admit, I was a little confused as to the progression. It seems like "hey, maybe it's a little slower in 4Q, but then we think it's going to be strong in the first half of '21." Can you just talk through the progression, the size and what it means for the model?
Shawn Vadala
executiveYes. Sure. Sure. Absolutely. So when we talk about -- I mean, there's a lot of benefits from COVID in our business that are maybe direct or indirect. But the one that we really call out when we talk about the tailwind is specific to the testing labs, which is very much related to COVID testing. There's liquid handling involved. Pipettes. Pipette tips. This is very much a discrete opportunity. Of course, there's going to be other benefits in headwinds as well related to COVID that we don't try to quantify. But on the benefit side, of course, there's going to be activity in research labs. There's going to be activity in process development. And then ultimately, in production. But what we're talking about with our tailwind is approximately -- is related to the pipetting, and that we would estimate that in Q3 was approximately 1% to 2% of a tailwind. We definitely consider that the tailwind will continue into Q4 into next year. I think we all agree that testing is going to be around for a while. I wouldn't read too much into our comments about the Q4 versus Q3. I think we were guiding more towards 1% as opposed to 1% to 2%. That's a little nuance. It's maybe a little bit of rounding involved. We just have a smaller topic at our -- so we have 2 main brands and production facilities for pipetting. One is Rainin, which we sell directly. That's our core brand that we've had since 2001. And then the second one is a company called Biotix, which we acquired a few years ago. It's a second brand goes through indirect channels as well. Just as we kind of like look at the forecast and the production forecast for Q4. There's a couple of smaller topics in the second brand that makes us think that it might be closer to 1% than 1% to 2%. But I wouldn't read too much into that. For next year, we're -- it's kind of our guests versus anybody else's guess. We tend to think it's maybe 1% during at least the first part of the year. Once we get past a vaccine. I think there still will be testing, but the -- and we still will have some benefit. But just the size of the benefit will be probably less than what we saw in Q3 of this year. So there will be maybe a slight decrement to it as well. But overall, it's been a nice business. I think that our teams have performed extremely well to keep up with market demand in terms of increasing their capacity. It's really admirable, their agility. And we're really, really pleased with their performance here. And that's also globally, we have production capabilities with pipettes also in China that we had invested in a few years ago as well. And we have some things already in the pipeline to increase capacity for next year in our existing plants as well as a new facility that I think we talked about on our call a couple of weeks ago with a facility that we're going to be building in Mexico. And this was actually planned before COVID. But the timing actually worked out kind of nicely for us.
Stephen Beuchaw
analystOkay. I should mention before we continue that if anyone has questions, feel free to pop them into the interface box here or send them to me by e-mail, and I'm happy to anonymously relay them over here on the webcast. I would like to spend a little bit of time here on your food exposure, both food from the PI side lab as well as food retail. I know it's sort of an interesting matrix. But it's a big piece of the business. And it's real hard to get your head around. Because on the one hand, there's an acceleration in demand within food retail as things go to food retail and away from restaurant and hotel and wholesale supply. And then, of course, there are some safety restrictions on accessing customer sites, which is, I guess, more of a PI issue. As I try to piece it together, it seems like maybe it's a blend of puts and takes in 2020. But then you have some pent-up demand in '21. Is that a fair sort of very simple synopsis about how much demand is sort of delayed?
Shawn Vadala
executiveYes. I mean I think on the product inspection side, in particular, we feel like there also is a pent-up demand story. The equipment has been worn very hard this year with the surge on their own customer demand. I can imagine there's also been a lot of distraction in their facilities going from, like you said, restaurants to consumer demands as well, too, and they probably need to spend some time with some of that instrumentation once they have some time to focus on it. We feel like we're really well-positioned for that. Not to repeat what I said earlier, but I think with the competitive advantages we have with the breadth of our portfolio and all those topics, I think we're -- we should be really well-positioned. The timing is just harder to predict at this time, at this point. It's we certainly see sequentially Q4 looking better than Q3. But that doesn't mean it's going to be a strong quarter. It's going to be flattish. It could even be down a little bit. I mean this is the business that we've seen that has been the most impacted negatively by the virus, at least. And so if you look at that, and you see the rising case counts around the world. Does that mean that certain things get delayed that are supposed to be installed in Q4? Does that mean that projects don't start, that were supposed to start. But eventually, we see a nice pent-up story here at some point in in '21. And so we're looking forward to that. It's not clear in terms of like the pacing of the investment. I don't know if it's quite as simple as like we have a vaccine, and everyone's going to place an order the next month. But I could imagine that this thing will pick up at some point post vaccine. On the food retailing side, that's a slightly different dynamic. They've also had different challenges as well to adjust to the situation. But in the end, it's not about wearing the equipment hard. It's not production equipment. But we're going to be tied a little bit to their replacement cycles. So these are typically a handful of retailers in our core countries. And so it will be very much more dependent on what's their natural replacement cycle. The good news is that they should have more funds available with the crisis to invest. And so we're hoping that, that would inspire them to make some investments. But it's not clear where we would fit in that priority as well as they think about their own dynamics in their stores.
Stephen Beuchaw
analystHistorically, you've managed the food retail business for profitability for returns. Does the opportunity here change that philosophy at all?
Shawn Vadala
executiveNo, I think it's going to be the same. I think that like it's always also been a lumpy business, too. If you go back for 20 years, I mean, there's always been waves, whether it was like we've been around long enough, we can remember the Y2K wave. And then there's been other regulatory things that have happened in different countries over the years. And so could this bring on a wave? Maybe, but I'm not so sure. I mean it's -- in the end, it's 6% of our business. We'd be happy if there's a wave to catch. Right now we're kind of more modestly thinking it's a low single-digit growth next year. And over the longer term, I think that's what we're going to tend to see. So we just tend to think of it like you mentioned, in terms of like managing it for profitability and trying to be disciplined on the business in terms of how we manage things like price and cost and things like that. And we think we have great solutions. We think we compete well. It's just a very different. The nature of the business is just different than our other businesses.
Stephen Beuchaw
analystGot it. Probably 3 or 4 more things I want to tackle here in the 15 minutes or so that we have left. What is China? I don't think it's all that surprising given how much stimulus activity there is, that China industrial is pretty strong here. I guess what I'm a little perplexed by is why wouldn't China, in 2021, be maybe better than a mid- single-digit grower. It seems like this is a part of their strategy for coming out of the pandemic, easy comps in the first half of the year. Can you just bridge us from where we are now as a pretty hefty teens type of growth numbers to mid-singles next year?
Shawn Vadala
executiveYes. No. I mean good question. We also agree that there's a lot of good things going on in China. In addition to some of the market dynamics, we have a really strong team. They've been -- they continue to execute so well. The agility that they demonstrate with like looking -- pivoting towards pockets of growth. I just can't underwrite. You can't underestimate how important that is. And we try to do that globally.
Stephen Beuchaw
analystThat's what we would do.
Shawn Vadala
executiveYes, exactly. I was going to say, we try to do that globally. And while I'm talking about our Chinese organization. And I'm saying, we try to do that globally, but I would argue that our Chinese organization is as good as that is about anybody. And they're very close to their markets, and they very much pick up on opportunities. So I think that's an important driver here as well. But then if you kind of like take a step back and you look at some of the programs that you mentioned with the government, one of the things that really stood out to us was, when the government was talking about stimulus earlier this year, they were talking about like public safety and health. And then they were talking about strategic investments like 5G and things like that. And they were almost consciously not talking about some of the investments that historically would have benefited our Industrial business, like some of the infrastructure and economic zone development going to the western part of the country. And I almost sensed it was conscious when I would talk to my colleagues in China earlier in the year. So we just never expected a lot of benefit or stimulus on the Industrial side. Now when we observed the results in Q3, our core Industrial business in Q3 grew more than 20%. And so that was a tremendous rebound from where we were back in Q1 when it was down 15%. And so certainly, a pent-up demand story here, probably a little bit of stimulus as well, too. It felt like there was some project activity going on that felt a little bit similar to some of the historical stimulus. But what was different is we couldn't necessarily tie it to a program. Like in the past, you could say like, oh, yes, the government said, like they're going to do this program, and here's all the tenders and you see the projects, and we're participating in that. I didn't particularly hear any commentary around specific programs that these projects were tied to. I'm sure there was -- might have been some investment, but it wasn't -- but that raises a question in my mind in terms of the sustainability of that level of investment on the Industrial side of the business. Now I'm not saying that they're not going to support their economy. I think they will. I think there's a lot of positive momentum there. Clearly, on the Laboratory side, there's a lot of investment going on into Life Sciences. I think both in Lab and Industrial, there's going to be more benefits as the country generally tries to become more independent from a manufacturing perspective, both on the Life Science side as well as on the industrial production. We do not sell typically to a lot of exporters. So net-net, I think that's going to be -- that should be a favorable trend for us as well. And the economy continues to develop and be more sophisticated in terms of needs for automation and productivity and data integration and all these things that play well to us. Now the second part of your question, "hey, Shawn, why isn't this like a bigger growth in your guidance for 2021." I understand the question. It's always hard for us to look beyond the current quarter. We're in with the nature of our backlog, only typically being 1.5 months. On the Laboratory side, we have more confidence for a lot of different reasons. We tend to think of that as high single-digit next year. On the Industrial side, we totally acknowledge. We're a little bit more cautious here. And it's not that we see any particular clouds in terms of the economy. I think part of it is just coming off of a quarter that grew more than 20% on the core Industrial side, acknowledging there's going to be an easier comparison in Q1. But just having that in the back of our minds, makes us maybe a little bit more timid sitting here today about what it could mean for the Industrial business next year. But China always has, I think, an upside and a downside to it. When we forecast and we've always said in the past that things can always change very quickly in China. And so just because things are so positive today, doesn't mean that they can't change quickly in the other direction. And what's interesting to me is like if we had this conversation a year ago, we would have probably had a similar commentary about things can change quickly in China. And since then, they've changed twice in both directions, going very negative in Q1 and then going very positive in Q3. So we'll see how the next 14 months play out, and it will be interesting to see how things develop.
Stephen Beuchaw
analystShifting gears just a bit. Just a bit, meaning it's a little bit related to China. There was some commentary in your last call -- on your last call about how -- one of the reasons China has gone so well, and you've alluded to it already here today, is because your team there can pivot very quickly. They can do pretty amazing things when it comes to shifting focus to growth opportunities. And it speaks to the data science inside Mettler, which I know is a big passion for Olivier. When we sort of broaden that out, though, you've layered on top of that more remote connectivity for your field sales team, more remote connectivity with your customers. It seems like, in a way, this was timed very, very well. Coming into the pandemic, as this has been a big effort here in the last year or 2. Can you give us a sense for how that's translated to share gain? I think we expect -- sorry, to set the bar high, but we expect share gains for Mettler every year, right? So how is this year different on that metric. And what is it that you're doing that's incremental this year to what you might have been doing 3 years ago in terms of commercial execution to leverage that data intensity that's sort of in the Mettler DNA now?
Shawn Vadala
executiveYes. Sure. Yes, it would be a great question to kind of maybe go into some detail with you, too. You're right. We do think we can gain a little bit of share every year. I felt -- we felt like this year was maybe a little bit more than normal. You kind of can see it, I think, in our numbers, especially if you compare us to other companies, excluding COVID tailwinds. And we see a pretty broad-based in our portfolio and a lot of our own internal KPIs. So the backdrop is that we're serving highly fragmented markets. Like we talked about like broad brush end markets before. But the actual customers are very fragmented. And then the customer sites are also very fragmented. So that gives us like a rich environment from a data perspective. And so once we identify the segments that we want to go after, then we collect all the data that we have internally in our own systems like CRM systems. We also collect a lot of data externally from a lot of sources that might give us hits about where there might be project activity, investment activity, maybe even FDA warning letters that might give us hints on companies that have data integrity issues. Now that might not be a topic in China in terms of the FDA, but we do have external sources of data as well to help us also in China. And then once we identify these specific opportunities, we'll literally provide thousands of profiles of these opportunities to our sales organization each year. And China is no different in this regard, too. And one of the things we've been able to get some expertise that over the last few years, it's how to handle all this with Chinese characters. You can imagine, when we first did the first version of this, started off in English. And then -- and over the years, we've gotten better with some of the different Asian languages as well. And so these profiles will contain a lot of information on the opportunity. Also some qualitative stuff internally on testimonials as well as some analytics on what a typical profile of a customer would look like. And what we've experienced is that the conversion rates of these profiles has been pretty good. So our Chinese organization has benefited from the analytics, but then they also benefit from a lot of digital tools that we've given them over the years, too, like literally a library of various tools that they can leverage for cross-selling opportunities as well as value selling. Video, eDemos, all those things. And what our experience has been is that the change management within our organization has accelerated a lot during COVID. The change management with our customers in this regard has also accelerated a lot. So these tools existed, but people have really embraced them a lot more over the past year. And then the third thing is a little bit kind of what you were getting at with your question, too, is just the whole go-to-market approach, like the ability to remote sell. And so we've been investing on inside sales resources a lot over the past few years. In fact, the last wave of field turbos that we had, deliberately had a lot of investment with inside sales associated with it. So we were -- we kind of timed things pretty well in terms of having those resources in place right around the time COVID was hitting. So that's been a good one for us over the last few years in terms of this go-to-market approach. This also better leverages the salesperson to have more time penetrating, more challenging accounts, new accounts, accounts that need to be cross-sold a little bit, and we've taken back a little bit on the stuff that's more been a harvesting kind of a mode or repeat customer. And then we've also, of course, leveraged approaches around e-marketing, like I'm sure most companies are doing these days as well as customer portals, which we had in place before the pandemic. And also this is a good opportunity to get more companies to be on the portal. And as a result, if you look at our -- like customer engagement statistics, they've all increased very significantly this year as well. And so we've had a combination of improved net promoter scores from being able to support customers during the pandemic, which has also allowed us to take a little bit of market share. And then we've also seen better engagement. And then if you just look through the sales pipeline, a lot of favorable KPIs throughout the pipeline that give us confidence that we're gaining a little bit. But it's important to always remember, too, when we -- I know you say everyone expects us to take a little bit each year. We do, too, by the way. But when we're still highly fragmented, we don't need a lot of market share either to kind of meet our growth targets.
Stephen Beuchaw
analystOkay. So we're just about out of time here. I'll try to jam in 2 really quick ones. I guess, first off, I want to confirm what I heard -- what I think I heard on the call, which is that as we get here closer to year-end and we think about -- as you referred to them, the B2B markets, where you operate. Fair to say that as COVID cases are picking up, we haven't seen those impact the business at this point?
Shawn Vadala
executiveYes. No, that's correct. I mean, of course, it's a very dynamic situation. So I think things can very much change from day-to-day as we've all experienced during COVID. But certainly, the discussions we've had in our organization, that's what we've seen. I can imagine in our product inspection business, that might be the first area where we could see maybe a delay here or there. But right now, that's not going to be significant to the overall portfolio. I think as a general rule, we're seeing that businesses are operating as normal, and we're not seeing any pullback.
Stephen Beuchaw
analystAnd then just to make sure I understood correctly on the margin progression. For next year, at the operating margin line, given it's a tough comp maybe a little less than the normal 75, but we're still thinking about better than 70 medium term. I think that's the way to think about it. Is that right? And how many years out do you have visibility on that OMX trajectory?
Shawn Vadala
executiveYes. No. We're -- I mean we're -- yes, we're -- after next year, you're right, we have a tough comp on a 2-year basis. I think we're still at the high end of our typical range. I think beyond next year, we're going to be probably in that I'd say 70 to 100 basis point kind of margin improvement area. We still feel very good about the program supporting margin expansion, pricing. Stern Drive are good examples of that. And right now, we don't see really any particular time line of where we think things run out. We have a lot of good ideas. We're still launching a lot of new things in both the pricing and in the Stern Drive side. And then, of course, organic growth is a big part of it, too. And so like all the things we're doing that I talked about in detail on the digital marketing side, I think that's going to -- that certainly positions us well, too. And then, of course, we have a good culture behind it in terms of like discipline and cost control and ongoing productivity and continuous improvement. So we feel very good about the story for a while.
Stephen Beuchaw
analystWell, I guess it's always been part of the thought process around Mettler, a very long runway. It's a nice place to tie it up. Thanks, Shawn. Thanks, Mary.
Mary Finnegan
executiveThank you.
Shawn Vadala
executiveOkay. Thanks, Steve. Nice to see you, and goodbye, everybody.
Stephen Beuchaw
analystHave a good afternoon.
Shawn Vadala
executiveAgain, take care. We'll see you.
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