Monolithic Power Systems, Inc. (MPWR) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

July 27, 2021

NASDAQ US Information Technology Semiconductors and Semiconductor Equipment earnings 48 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Genevieve Cunningham

executive
#1

Welcome, everyone, to the MPS Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Webinar. Please note that this webinar is being recorded and will be archived for 1 year on our Investor Relations page at www.monolithicpower.com. My name is Genevieve Cunningham, and I will be the moderator for this webinar. Joining me today are Michael Hsing, CEO and Founder of MPS; and Bernie Blegen, VP and CFO. During this webinar, we will discuss our Q2 2021 financial results and guidance for Q3 2021, followed by a Q&A session. [Operator Instructions] In the course of today's webinar, we will make forward-looking statements and projections that involve risk and uncertainty, which could cause results to differ materially from management's current views and expectations. Please refer to the safe harbor statement contained in the earnings release published today. Risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ are identified in the safe harbor statements contained in the Q2 earnings release and in our SEC filings, including our Form 10-K filed on March 1, 2021, and our Form 10-Q filed on May 10, 2021, which are accessible through our website, www.monolithicpower.com. MPS assumes no obligation to update the information provided on today's call. We will be discussing gross margin, operating expense, R&D and SG&A expense, operating income, interest and other income, net income and earnings on both a GAAP and a non-GAAP basis. These non-GAAP financial measures are not prepared in accordance with GAAP and should not be considered as a substitute for or superior to measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. A table that outlines the reconciliation between the non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures is included in our earnings release, which we have filed with the SEC. I would refer investors to the Q2 2020, Q1 2021 and Q2 2021 releases as well as to the reconciling tables that are posted on our website. Now I would like to turn the call over to Bernie Blegen.

Bernie Blegen

executive
#2

Thanks, Gen. MPS achieved record second quarter revenue of $293.3 million, 15.3% higher than the first quarter of 2021 and 57.5% higher than the second quarter of 2020. This broad-based year-over-year revenue growth was the result of our diversified growth strategy, technological innovation and investment in production capacity. Turning now to our second quarter 2021 revenue by market. Computing and storage revenue of $87.7 million increased 30.0% from the first quarter of 2021. The sequential revenue improvement reflected increased demand and market share gains for servers and data centers and notebooks. Computing and storage revenue represented 29.9% of MPS' second quarter 2021 revenue compared with 34.4% in the second quarter of 2020. Second quarter consumer revenue of $76.1 million increased 14.9% from the first quarter of 2021. The sequential quarterly revenue increase reflected earlier than normal sales of gaming console products. Consumer revenue represented 25.9% of MPS' second quarter 2021 revenue compared with 25.6% in the second quarter of 2020. Second quarter automotive revenue of $48.7 million increased 8.5% from the first quarter of 2021, primarily due to increased sales of infotainment products. Second quarter 2021 revenue was up 173.9% year-over-year. Automotive revenue represented 16.6% of MPS' second quarter 2021 revenue compared with 9.5% in the second quarter of 2020. Second quarter 2021 industrial revenue of $43.3 million increased 8.9% from the first quarter of 2021, reflecting increased sales of products for power source applications. Industrial revenue represented 14.8% of our total second quarter 2021 revenue compared with 14.3% in the second quarter of 2020. Second quarter 2021 communications revenue of $37.5 million was up 3.9% from the first quarter of 2021. Most of the sequential revenue increase was due to higher product sales for networking and wireless applications. Communications sales represented 12.8% of our total second quarter 2021 revenue compared with 16.2% in the second quarter of 2020. Our sustainable above-market growth is based on the following: We have and are continuously investing in the expansion and diversification of our supply chain; we accelerated the release of advanced products and solutions based on our new technologies; three, we have gained increased acceptance of our solutions with first tier customers globally; and four, we continue to diversify and support a wider number of end product applications. With our planned capacity expansion in place and as we release more parts into production, we are well positioned to accelerate our future revenue growth. Moving now to a few comments on gross margin. GAAP gross margin was 56.0%, 60 basis points higher than the first quarter of 2021 and 90 basis points higher than the second quarter of 2020. Our GAAP operating income was $60.6 million compared to $46.1 million reported in the first quarter of 2021 and $28.0 million reported in the second quarter of 2020. Non-GAAP gross margin for the second quarter of 2021 was 56.3%, up 50 basis points from the gross margin reported for the first quarter of 2021, and 60 basis points higher than the second quarter from a year ago. The increase in non-GAAP gross margin as a percent of revenue reflected lower proportional overhead costs. Our non-GAAP operating income was $94.9 million compared to $75.8 million reported in the prior quarter and $53.0 million reported in the second quarter of 2020, representing a 79% year-over-year increase in operating income. Let's review our operating expenses. Our GAAP operating expenses were $103.6 million in the second quarter of 2021 compared with $95.0 million in the first quarter of 2021 and $74.6 million in the second quarter of 2020. Our non-GAAP second quarter 2021 operating expenses were $70.3 million, up from the $66.2 million we spent in the first quarter of 2021, and up from the $50.7 million recorded in the second quarter of 2020. The difference between non-GAAP operating expenses and GAAP operating expenses for the quarters discussed here are stock compensation expense and income or loss on an unfunded deferred compensation plan. For the second quarter of 2021, total stock compensation expense, including approximately $885,000 charged to cost of goods sold, was $32.1 million compared with $28.6 million recorded in the first quarter of 2021. Switching to the bottom line. Second quarter 2021 GAAP net income was $55.2 million or $1.16 per fully diluted share compared with $45.4 million or $0.95 per share in the first quarter of 2021 and $30.2 million or $0.64 per share in the second quarter of 2020. Q2 non-GAAP net income was $86.5 million or $1.81 per fully diluted share compared with $69.5 million or $1.46 per share in the first quarter of 2021 and $50.6 million or $1.08 per share in the second quarter of 2020. Fully diluted shares outstanding at the end of Q2 2021 were 47.8 million. Now let's look at the balance sheet. Cash, cash equivalents and investments were $672.9 million at the end of the second quarter of 2021 compared to $641.6 million at the end of the first quarter of 2021. For the quarter, MPS generated operating cash flow of about $96.9 million compared with Q1 2021 operating cash flow of $77.1 million. Second quarter 2021 capital spending totaled $39.3 million. Accounts receivable ended the second quarter of 2021 at $77.6 million, representing 24 days of sales outstanding, which was 6 days lower than the 30 days reported at the end of the first quarter of 2021 and 3 days lower than the 27 days reported in the second quarter of 2020. Our internal inventories at the end of the second quarter of 2021 were $177.3 million, up from $175.2 million at the end of the first quarter of 2021. Days of inventory of 125 days at the end of the second quarter of 2021 or 16 days lower than at the end of the first quarter of 2021. Historically, we have calculated days of inventory on hand as a function of the current quarter revenue. We believe comparing current inventory levels with following quarters revenue provides a better economic match. On this basis, you can see days of inventory of 117 days at the end of the second quarter of 2021 or 7 days lower than the 124 days at the end of the first quarter of 2021 and 2 days lower than the 119 days at the end of the second quarter of 2020. I would now like to turn to our outlook for the third quarter of 2021. We are forecasting Q3 revenue in the range of $309 million to $321 million. Gross margin on both a GAAP and non-GAAP basis is expected to include a onetime benefit from a $4 million litigation settler. Including this benefit, GAAP gross margin will be in the range of 57.3% to 57.9% and non-GAAP gross margin will be in a range of 57.6% to 58.2%. Excluding this onetime event, non-GAAP gross margin will be in the range of 56.3% to 56.9%. Total stock-based compensation expense should be in the range of $31.2 million to $33.2 million, including approximately $950,000 that would be charged to cost of goods sold. GAAP R&D and SG&A expenses should be between $104.1 million and $108.1 million. Non-GAAP R&D and SG&A expenses will be in the range of $73.9 million to $75.9 million. Litigation expense should range between $2.3 million and $2.7 million. Interest income is expected to range from $1.0 million to $1.4 million. Fully diluted shares to be in the range of 47.4 million to 48.4 million shares. In conclusion, with our planned capacity expansion in place and as we release more parts into production, we are well positioned to accelerate our future revenue growth. I'll now open up the webinar for questions.

Genevieve Cunningham

executive
#3

Thank you, Bernie. Analysts, I would now like to begin our Q&A session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Tore Svanberg of Stifel.

Tore Svanberg

analyst
#4

Congrats again on another strong and record quarter. I was hoping you could update us on your capacity plans. I know you've done a pretty good job here in the last 18 months. Your inventories seem to be in good shape, perhaps a bit at the lower end. But maybe you could help us understand a little bit more what you specifically are doing on the capacity side.

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#5

On the -- thanks, Tore. Our capacity is, as always, in the past 3 or 4 years, and we keep expanding and now we continue that. However, we do have capacities and have over $2 billion before the middle of next year. So we have enough capacity for us to grow. And then now we have just qualified more product and release to production and ultimately, in our customers' hands.

Bernie Blegen

executive
#6

And at the expense of repeating ourselves, Tore, you recall that last year, we brought up a 12-inch fab. And this year, we've brought up an 8-inch fab, which is already contributing to inventory. So in both cases, what we're continuing to do is expand out by qualifying more parts so that we will be able to meet the $2 billion level by the middle of next year.

Tore Svanberg

analyst
#7

Very good. And your cash balance has doubled here in the last couple of years, and it's now at $670 million. Obviously, it's is a luxury issue to have. But what do you intend to do with that cash? Because obviously, you don't need that much. So do you plan to return it more back to shareholders? Or are you potentially looking at M&A? And the reason I'm asking this is because it's so high now, right? I mean I know historically, you've grown your business organically, but it's so high now that I just have to ask the question what you intend to do with it?

Bernie Blegen

executive
#8

That's a good question. As a company, I keep saying that we're transforming the company from a semiconductor to more a solution providers. And so we can utilize the cash much better than we can in the past. And the strategy is still -- again, we will buy in a tuck-in technology companies, which is comparable to MPS revenues, MPS as a general market coverage. So on the other hand, we are also consistently raising dividend. And that's our strategy, but we are not excluding buyback shares.

Genevieve Cunningham

executive
#9

Our next question is from Quinn Bolton of Needham.

Quinn Bolton

analyst
#10

Hope you can hear me, but let me echo my congratulations on the strong revenue and a very nice gross and operating margins. Bernie, I guess you teased us there at the end of your script, saying that you've got the capacity now to support an acceleration in revenue growth. If I look at revenue last year, you did about 35% growth. Looks like this year, you might do better than that. I'm just trying to interpret when you talk about an acceleration in revenue growth, what should we read into that?

Bernie Blegen

executive
#11

Yes. I think that you're familiar with our model, which is to outperform the industry by 10 to 15 percentage points. And obviously, that's a model. That's a guideline. And there are certain periods where we have the right factors, both strategically as well as from a market perspective that have allowed us to do better and sometimes, not as well as that model. So for example, if you look at last year's results, you could argue that at 34.5% growth that we exceeded the market, which was right about 5% to 8%, depending on what you're looking at, but somewhere in the neighborhood of 15, 17 percentage points. And so we look at that as well above our model. In the current year, obviously, we only guide Q3, but it's not unrealistic to expect that within the range of possibilities that we could match that performance or in fact do just a little bit better. So what we're trying to observe here is that in this 2-, 3-year period, we're actually benefiting from a lot of factors that have us exceeding what our normal model is.

Quinn Bolton

analyst
#12

Great. Bernie, I also wanted to ask on the compute and storage business up 30% sequentially. I think you mentioned that it was share gains in both servers as well as notebooks. On the notebook side, I thought you already had pretty high share at the high end of the notebook market. So I'm wondering if you could comment, are you starting to see share gains in maybe more mainstream or even low end or chromebooks on the notebook side? And is there any notable areas of share gains on servers?

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#13

Yes, we do have some share gain in -- across the board in the notebook market segment. As our technologies advance and which lower the cost, our size became much smaller. So the cost -- the lower cost allow MPS enters more notebook segment.

Bernie Blegen

executive
#14

And then as far as server, we've been fairly consistent in articulating our strategy as far as being able to grow our market position with each succeeding next generation, particularly Intel and AMD products. Not limited to that, though, but also on 48 volt and GPUs. So it really expresses the point that we're branching up in share gains within the Intel family, but also branching out into these other opportunities.

Quinn Bolton

analyst
#15

Great, and congrats again.

Genevieve Cunningham

executive
#16

Our next question is from Rick Schafer of Oppenheimer.

Richard Schafer

analyst
#17

I'll add my congratulations. It's just kind of keep amazing everybody. And I think I'll ask one more capacity question if that's okay, and it's coming from a spending kind of standpoint. Can you, Bernie, maybe remind us what the outlook for kind of spending? Just as a general rule as a percent of revenue, maybe starting next year once all the new capacity is installed. And I mean, I think you get so many questions because everybody sees the kind of growth you guys are putting up. And it's awesome that you have $2 billion in capacity on board by this time next year. But at this rate, it's only -- in a couple of years, right, where you're going to be bumping your head on. So I'm curious because how soon would you have to look to begin ramping incremental capacity again, and what might the impact be on spending? I'm curious, what like -- just hypothetically, in 2 years, 3 years' time, if you're at $2 billion top line, like what would gross margins look like, for instance?

Bernie Blegen

executive
#18

Rick, thank you, and good question. Something that's really important to comment on here is that a lot of companies and a lot of analysts and a lot of investors who focused on capacity as if this is a new aspect of the semiconductor business. In fact, capacity is something that we have been managing for the 10 years that I've been here and before that. It's an integral component to our growth strategy. And so the way that we've been doing it is sequentially adding new fabs and also assembly houses and testing capacity alongside of that to accommodate to be in front of what our expected revenue growth. So while we have made a public comment on the fabs that we've invested in to date, we're still continuing on with ongoing relationships in order to secure more fab capacity for the future in order to accommodate that growth beyond $2 billion.

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#19

Yes. As I said earlier, we keep expanding, we will never stop. But sometimes faster, other ones slow -- other times slower, okay? Other than the capacities, physical capacity itself, we have to increase a lot of headcounts. And MPS is very, very lean. And so we will hire now. We are hiring a lot of people.

Richard Schafer

analyst
#20

Sorry, I was having some trouble on my end. A quick question on auto, if I could. I mean, by my math, it's on track to maybe grow sort of in the 80% or better range this year for you guys. I mean I'm curious how much of that is being either directly or indirectly limited by supply. And if you could give a sense of what growth could be or talk about maybe demand that's pushed, and how that ultimately would show up in the model, say, next year? I don't know if you could maybe quantify or talk about your auto backlog and maybe where it is today.

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#21

I -- maybe Bernie can. This year, you said that -- you mentioned that whether the automotive product is limited by the capacities. And the answer is, it's not as much as other segment because automotive company, they give us a long lead times. And so we prepared last year. The last year didn't -- our customers didn't consume that many of our products and so all translated to this year. And so we'll be able to ship them now.

Bernie Blegen

executive
#22

One of the aspects of automotive that's getting a lot of attention in the press has to deal with the fact of electronic component shortages that are shutting down plants or limiting their ability in order to kit a car and put it to assemble it. And as Michael just said, we're actually not capacity constrained there. We are meeting all demand from them. And what's been interesting is one of the reasons that automotive got into this bind is because they were working with a just-in-time inventory model. And I think that they've learned from that, that when the parts, the electronic components are available that they will stock them, even though they don't have a complete kit to build the car. Now in our conversations and feedback that we're getting is, they're not actually only trying to satisfy real demand, but that is the timing of when the build plan when they'll have the complete kit that they can then build the cars. So it's something that we want to monitor because there's been no change in the ordering pattern or our shipment schedule versus expectations because of the other limitations in automotive.

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#23

I might as well add, okay? About 1.5 year ago, our inventory were at all-time high. And that was one of the reasons that why we do that because we are a newcomer in automotive industries. Even though with this type of current revenue, we're still in a very, very little on the market percentage of the market. And so it's clear, as a newcomer, you don't want to upset the customers and you don't have a product. So as all these -- like what we do to all these key customers, we have inventory, even though don't have a clear forecast. And so now it's really benefited us, and we gain a lot more design win activities and -- because our competitors cannot ship a product.

Genevieve Cunningham

executive
#24

Our next question is from Ross Seymore of Deutsche Bank. Our next question is from William Stein of Truist.

William Stein

analyst
#25

I hope you can hear me. With regard to -- first, sort of a maintenance question, with regard to your capacity and inventory, which you've already explained quite a bit about on this call, are you supply-constrained at this time? Are you able to meet all the demand, whether it's upside or maybe customers stretching and trying to build a bit of inventory? Or are you, in fact, capacity constrained and are lead times extended as you're communicating them to customers? And then I have a bigger -- a more sort of strategic question after that.

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#26

Yes. Let me explain it that way again. We have less capacity constrained compared like half a year ago also. And however, as the customers -- when you -- after you qualify all these new fabs. And we have a month or a couple of months delay of qualifying these products. And to qualify in a fab, it's not exactly science, okay? I mean you use different supply, different equipment and different materials and all the problem -- all these issue comes to have an effect on how you qualify products in the end. So -- and at this time, okay, we just have to release a lot of new product -- a lot of existing product from different fabs. And so it's kind of a -- to answer your question, yes, it is that kind of a constraint. We have a lot more orders, and we couldn't fulfill and that gave me -- but just only a couple of months of late.

Bernie Blegen

executive
#27

And again, what we're trying to do here is make sure that we're servicing real demand and not building up inventory either in the channel or on our customer shelves. So what we've done is, we've actually have very transparent relationships with our customers so that we make sure that we're in touch with their business, sufficient to be able to make those trade-offs.

William Stein

analyst
#28

Great. And then the follow-up, if I can, or the more strategic question. Michael, you referred to this transition from a semi company to a technology solutions company, and it's something I've written about, specifically the transition from semi devices to modules. Any quantification around this? And perhaps, it relates to the e-commerce strategy as well, any update in that area would be very helpful.

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#29

Yes, thanks for asking for that question. Now is overwhelming by the revenue growth and the company -- not only from analysts, from our side. The company -- inside company is overwhelming by the revenue growth, the allocations and the product allocations and a lot of strategic things, like always less pronounced than now. But the module, you're absolutely right. Module business is for a solutions -- as a solution, transforming to a module company as we're transforming or transitioning from semiconductor to a solution company. And the e-commerce will have teams, and we -- finally, we have organized like a product line. And I know the activities. And in the last quarter or so, it's quadrupled. And so the revenue is still small, but it's in the millions of dollars, okay? I mean it's more than $1 million, somewhere $30 million, $40 million.

Bernie Blegen

executive
#30

With the modules.

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#31

Yes, with the module in the service, and it's growing. As you recall, in about 5 years ago -- 3 years ago, it's almost 0, yes. And -- 4 years ago, almost 0, and okay we started that. And so we will continue to focus on that. And so I truly believe that that's all the future.

William Stein

analyst
#32

Congrats.

Genevieve Cunningham

executive
#33

Our next question is from Joshua Buchalter of Cowen.

Joshua Buchalter

analyst
#34

Congrats on the results. Gross margins in both the print and the guide were meaningfully higher than your usual 10 to 20 basis point trajectory. Can you elaborate on the key drivers of the leverage there? And I guess, speak to the sustainability, was it driven by mix or something on the cost side, getting wafers through your recently ran fabs?

Bernie Blegen

executive
#35

Sure. I think that we've discussed in the past that, again, it's -- our model is that we want to be able to grow gross margin at 10 to 20 basis points sequentially over the long haul. And we've demonstrated very good consistency in being able to do that. But much like I was describing before, this is an unusual period of growth for the company, both in terms of how fast the revenue is growing. And then, obviously, as we described in the narrative, it was that the overhead is not which would be like direct spending or inventory provisions or anything like that. It's not growing at the same rate as the revenue growth. And that's where we're getting the near-term leverage. As we look out, obviously, we don't want to create an expectation that we're going to be able to grow at the same rate, but by the same token, we have established another floor level for what we expect sustainable gross margin to be.

Joshua Buchalter

analyst
#36

That's helpful. And then also on the model, I guess, you mentioned that consumer in consoles was a bit accelerated versus your normal seasonality. Can you remind us what you would expect the shape of the console business to look like in the second half? And maybe just give us some clues on revenue growth by segment.

Bernie Blegen

executive
#37

Sure. Go ahead.

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#38

I don't know if we call it normal. I don't -- I can't think of it normal anymore, okay. Regarding to our console business, yes, we win a lot of design, and we're the next design. I mean I think the business continues. I think you have a better judgment than us what's the seasonality now for the console.

Bernie Blegen

executive
#39

I think that Michael makes a very strong point there is that we've had so many puts and takes in different lines of businesses that have been added that the rule of thumb is not as applicable as it might have been back in 2018 or 2019. What I would comment on is that we believe that we are optimizing across all of our different end markets. And again, it's really the strength of the model is in the diversification. And whereas a lot of the traditional seasonality would have been tied to consumer, for example. Now we have a much higher percentage our business that is tied to computing, automotive and industrial, and they don't necessarily recognize the same level of seasonality. But then to sort of complete the question, I think if you look at the near-term growth, obviously, the current year has benefited significantly from automotive and compute storage, in particular. And we believe that going forward, automotive along with communications should be our longer-term drivers.

Genevieve Cunningham

executive
#40

Our next question is from Tore Svanberg of Stifel.

Tore Svanberg

analyst
#41

I just have a few follow-up questions. First of all, I have a question on your ASPs, which is obviously tied to your revenue growth. So now that you are sort of growing in the 50% range, how much of that is units versus ASPs?

Bernie Blegen

executive
#42

Yes. I would say, if you look at last year, and last year is representative of what we're doing in 2021, is of the 34.5% growth. 25%, that was tied to volume, 10% was tied to price. And I think when Michael talks about the solutions business, you're looking at previously selling an individual piece of silicon for $0.20 to $0.25. And now depending on the module, we can get between $1 to $3. And what we're looking to be able to do is design complete, integrated solutions for different end applications where those will be able to achieve for the total cost for that solution can be somewhere between $60 to $100. So there is the ASP on the individual component, but it's more importantly, it's having that attach rate with the total solution.

Tore Svanberg

analyst
#43

Very good. And talking about systems, how is your motor business doing? I know that's probably the highest a few products you have. So how is that business going?

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#44

It's doing well, but the rest of the companies grow much faster. So it's still small. And you can't break out a percentage yet, but I think there was -- we will more -- have given more category of our product growth, okay, as we divide it into a more finer product line. Yes, we will give that number later, okay?

Tore Svanberg

analyst
#45

Sounds good, Michael. And last one, about a year ago, you talked about getting into the medical end market. Any updates there? I mean, I know it's still probably very, very small as a percentage of revenue, but just trying to understand how fast your traction is in the medical end market.

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#46

Yes, we have our product now. And that's -- well, we have several things. We have ultrasound, and the ultrasound, we do generate revenue. We see revenue now. The other one is X-ray machines, okay? X-rays and we have -- we're evaluating the first silicon in -- from our design side is a forest, but we have some issue with that. And -- but that's a very minor issue. I mean we'll be able to solve that problem and it is outstanding. Thank you for bringing it up. And the performance is like a 5, 6x better than existing solutions. So the image is a lot more cleaner now, and we could deliver. And so I think the customers are waiting, and we're very excited.

Bernie Blegen

executive
#47

One other comment to add here is, the technology that we're referring to here is related to our high performance or precision analog.

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#48

Data converters.

Bernie Blegen

executive
#49

Converters, yes, right? And this has been something that we've been working on for, I think, about 2.5, 3 years now.

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#50

2.5 years.

Bernie Blegen

executive
#51

2.5 years. And I think what is really exciting is that this is an incredible opportunity, and we're very close to being able to declare that it's commercially viable in the market. So it's not just the medical, which is the first end market that we're going after with this technology, but the other opportunities this opens up for us.

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#52

Yes. But same technologies -- similar technology that we'll be able to use in the telecommunications side.

Tore Svanberg

analyst
#53

Sounds good. Congrats again on the results.

Genevieve Cunningham

executive
#54

Our next question is from Kevin Garrigan of Rosenblatt.

Kevin Garrigan

analyst
#55

Congrats on the quarter. Just a quick one for me. I was wondering if you could tell us what percentage of your business or percentage of backlog is based on 3-year newer products. I think last quarter, Bernie, you had said new products introduced in the last 3 years were about 37% of sales. So just kind of wondering if this was in the same range this quarter.

Bernie Blegen

executive
#56

Yes. The reason that we use that step on sort of a onetime basis was to really give an order of magnitude to just how dynamic this new product introduction is as a component to our growth. So right now, obviously, in such a short one quarter term, it hasn't changed a whole lot up or down. But it's really not anything that we want to be reporting on, on an ongoing basis.

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#57

Yes. I think at the last time we reported, is that 37%?

Bernie Blegen

executive
#58

Yes.

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#59

I actually went back and look at it, and we actually cannibalize ourselves. And I think that's a better way rather than the big guys eats us alive. And nothing so we cannibalize quite a bit. I think it's somewhere as the 10% range, okay? These new products, we cannibalize it. And that's why the number is so high.

Bernie Blegen

executive
#60

But I would say that when there's cannibalization involved, you can bet that from market share gains against our peer companies, that's really the leverageable part of this story.

Genevieve Cunningham

executive
#61

Our next question is from Quinn Bolton of Needham.

Quinn Bolton

analyst
#62

Just wanted to follow up on Joshua's question on gross margins. I know in the near term, better overhead absorption is driving the better margins. But if you guys have access to capacity and most of your competitors get strained, I'm wondering, is there any room for you to get a little bit more to raise pricing in certain segments to take advantage of that capacity support? Or will you just continue to kind of put your foot on the pedal and try to drive as much revenue through that additional capacity to support rather than trying to do it through pricing.

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#63

Well, yes, MPS is still smaller -- as a smallest analog semiconductor business. And we -- okay, at the same time, we want to have delivered a consistent result. And so now you see the margin even in this period, we don't fluctuate a lot. And because we don't -- we just pass on our cost to our customers. And we don't randomly just raise because we can -- now the shortage, we can gauge a price, okay? And then that will affect the long-term relationship with our customers. And so we just maintain that and maintain the margins, okay? I think this strategy is for saving things for us.

Genevieve Cunningham

executive
#64

[Operator Instructions] As there are no further questions, I would now like to turn the webinar back over to Bernie.

Bernie Blegen

executive
#65

I'd like to thank you all for joining us for this webinar and look forward to talking with you again during our third quarter webinar, which will likely be at the end of October. Thank you, and have a nice day.

Michael R. Hsing

executive
#66

Have a nice day.

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