Nextech3D.AI Corporation (NEXCF) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 12, 2021
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorGood afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome, everyone, to the NexTech AR Solutions Corp. 2021 Second Quarter Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I'd like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded today, Thursday, August 12, 2021. Yesterday, after markets closed, NexTech AR Solutions Corp. released its financial results for the second quarter ending June 30, 2021. A copy of the earnings disclosure is available on our website and on SEDAR. Some of the information discussed on this call is based on information as of today, August 12, 2021, and contains forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from those set forth in such statements. For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, you should review the forward-looking statements disclosure in the earnings press release as well as in our SEDAR filings. During this call, we will discuss IFRS results and non-IFRS financial measures. A reconciliation between IFRS results and non-IFRS financial measures is available in our MD&A, which can be found on SEDAR. Neither this call nor the webcast archive may be rerecorded or otherwise reproduced or distributed without prior written permission from NexTech. To begin our call, Evan Gappelberg, CEO, will discuss the highlights of our first quarter as well as recent business developments; followed by Andrew Chan, CFO, who will review our financial results and outlook. Finally, Evan will make some closing remarks before opening the line for more questions. I'll now turn the call over to Evan Gappelberg, CEO.
Evan Gappelberg
executiveThank you very much for that intro. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome, everybody, to NexTech's Q2 2021 results. I want to thank everybody that's here today. We have [ Brad Giddings ], who's going to be managing our Investor Relations for NexTech. Brad, if you're with us, I think there's a piece here for you to interact with our investor base.
Unknown Executive
executiveThank you for the introduction, Evan. I appreciate it. And to all of our investors, I look forward to working with you and helping you in any way that we can. Thank you, Evan.
Evan Gappelberg
executiveYou're welcome, Brad. So to begin, I want to thank everybody for joining us. All of our employees from all over the world, including Canada, United States, Europe and Asia Pacific, I want to thank them for their continued support of our mission and our business. NexTech's successes in Q2 and really throughout 2021 were made possible through the hard work, the creativity and dedication of our talented and valued employees. Our culture of organizational learning, respectful collaboration is energizing and really driving business excellence. So thank you for all your hard work, and we're really just getting started. So if we look at Q2, Q2 was fueled by the combination of all of our businesses, not just one. We're a unique small-cap company in that we have diversified businesses. Augmented reality is, of course, our focus, and we are more confident than ever that we are the leading augmented reality company with our products in the industry today. Our augmented reality is the fastest-growing part of our business, and it's connected to everything we sell, which is really creating this incredible flywheel effect within our company. As of now, many of you have seen this week's announcement of ARway. NexTech signed a definitive agreement to acquire ARway, which will expand its augmented reality solutions to include metaverse solutions. ARway is a U.K.-based spatial computing company. And this acquisition of ARway gives us an augmented reality, SDK, or software development kit, providing us with spatial mapping, which is key to the metaverse. You need the spatial mapping platform. It's critical to building the metaverse. And it really rounds out NexTech's offering with what we believe is an essential building block of a complete augmented reality suite of products. We are pleased that ARway's founders, Baran and Nik, are joining NexTech's team as we integrate this important functionality into the NexTech offerings. ARway already is in market today and brings an impressive list of clients, including British Telecom, London, Guildhall, Westfield mall in London, Bosch and many others. Most importantly, ARway has already developed ecosystem. They have over 1,000 developers that develop augmented reality experiences in its metaverse platform, on its platform that uses its scanning technology. And this is without any budget or any ad spending, completely bootstrapped. With NexTech now driving its going forward growth plans, we expect to see a rapid expansion of this ecosystem and rapid ramp-up of developers and customers. The platform is currently a SaaS platform that has the potential to generate significant revenue in 2021 and beyond. When paired with our existing AR content creation tools, including Threedy.ai's product creation tools, and holoX people, holographic human creation tools, we believe that we can create tremendous value throughout our technology stack and be first to market with a metaverse studio offering. I believe that this acquisition is a major turning point for our company and for our augmented reality businesses, specifically becoming a key driver of revenue. This metaverse announcement is just the beginning. And in the coming weeks, NexTech will continue to expand on our product suite, and we will continue to announce a well-defined product and solution umbrella strategy, including what we view are the critical components of a complete augmented reality offering. Super excited about the metaverse. Let's talk about Q2, which is in the rearview mirror. So in 2020, when you look at the landscape, when we came into 2020 and 2021 even, we had huge tailwinds from our e-comm and virtual events business fueled by the pandemic and a complete lockdown of society, which was a once -- well, hopefully, once in a business lifetime opportunity. NexTech will probably never experience that again. And so with the rollout of vaccines in 2021, things have now normalized. However, we are seeing a sharp pickup again in our virtual events business because of the Delta variant. We're seeing repeat customers that are now coming back to the table and booking more virtual and hybrid events than they were prior to Delta. So there was a bit of a bump, I'd say, in demand in Q2 that's now starting to turn up in Q3 and Q4. So while Q2 2021 is a down quarter over Q1 2021, year-over-year, we are up 73%. And for the first 6 months of 2021, our revenue is up 130% over 2020, which is no small feat for a small public company. However, like all you investors, we see the stock is down. We are not satisfied with these results. We believe that Q2 will be our slowest quarter in 2021, and that it was a quarter of change for our company. We were dealing with the economic reopening and the cross currents in our events business switching from 100% virtual in 2020 to 100% reopening. In Q2, we also started the transition to a self-serve, highly scalable business model across all our businesses, which is ongoing development work that is expected to be complete in early Q4. We're in the process of turning all our platforms into scalable solutions. This means exponential growth is ahead of us. Most importantly, for shareholders, we are working on the integration of all our augmented reality solutions into 1 unified platform so that our customers can log in, get a dashboard with a selection of all our augmented reality solutions from a single log-in. WebAR for e-commerce, 3D AR ads, human holograms, all those creator tools, even the metaverse solution studio, our newest addition to the NexTech family, will be part of this 1 dashboard 1 view. This offering is a major undertaking for the company and will allow us to be a leader in the AR space. As we move forward into Q3 and Q4, we are now seeing a reacceleration in our technology services businesses. We see book deals with some notable wins, including Schneider Electric, United Nations. Recently, we announced Ryerson added another $150,000 in augmented reality lab orders. Northwell Health, a Northeastern HMO, has just come back and reordered. Kohl's has tripled down on their AR services with us. So it's a 300% increase in business from Kohl's, 100% increase in business from Kmart. So as we go into the second half of 2021, I feel we are positioned better than ever to take advantage of a multi-decade, multi-trillion-dollar megatrend in augmented reality that is just getting started. It reminds me, and it's very similar to the birth of the Internet back in 1995, nobody really understood it. You had dial-up modems, so the experience was suboptimal. But today, 25 years later, we now take the Internet for granted as we shop on Amazon, we search on Google, and we get our daily dose of news from CNN or Yahoo or wherever. It's just part of everything we do, and we take it for granted. Augmented reality will be the same way. And we are first mover with an incredibly valuable technology stack, allowing us to create mini metaverses and populate these mini metaverses with our augmented reality solutions. So just to recap, in just the first half of 2021, we've started turning our AR solutions into self-serve, low-touch, no-touch businesses that could grow exponentially. We've laid a solid foundation with the transformative acquisition of Threedy.ai for scaling content creation and Threedy products for e-commerce. And it simultaneously created a solution for scaling the creation of human holograms in AR by leveraging artificial intelligence technology to bring to market what we believe is a very valuable technology, which is human teleportation on demand. We call that holoX. All of that in 1 word is holoX. We've just acquired ARway, which puts us in the metaverse, puts us at the forefront of augmented reality technology with the ability to create 3D spatial maps and then populate it with our AR, providing an unrivaled AR solution for use of the metaverse, which we believe; which Mark Zuckerberg, the CEO of Facebook, believes; which the CEO of Microsoft believes; the CEO of Unity believes, is very, very valuable. That, of course, is the metaverse. Finally, we've signed key partnership agreements with Microsoft, Ericsson and Singtel, which expands our global reach into their customer base. With holoX, we've announced that we're integrating with HoloLens, for an AR experience like none other. Of course, the global event market, even without a pandemic, is still a $30 billion a year industry. And so LiveX is our product offering for that industry. It's our showcase platform for enterprise customers to host fully customized, large-scale events globally as hybrid events. We have live chat, live streaming. And we do have our newly launched ARoom, which our investors have patiently been waiting for. It is live, and it is launched. We have a full broadcast suite, polling, gamification and of course, a full suite of augmented reality experiences. LiveX is a platform that's being used by some of the biggest and best companies in the world, including Schneider Electric, MIT, Harvard, the UN and many, many others. Our business model has not changed as we are in the augmented reality, virtual experience business, which is the fastest-growing, highest demand technology on the market today. The imminent products and solutions umbrella strategy mentioned earlier on this call will be more well defined that will essentially lay out what we have always set out to do, which is to lead the way in AR solutions and offerings. In conclusion, NexTech is focused on its key strategic priority of maintaining financial strength and liquidity. Since inception, the company has been advancing efforts and evaluating potential acquisitions to optimize its capital structure, improve liquidity and enhance long-term shareholder value. We will continue to walk this path. And we are in discussions with multiple exciting AR companies, both large and small. In our Q2 2021 results, once again, we're reinforcing the importance of our 3 foundational pillars. We're a leader in augmented reality technology, underpinned by enabling digital transformation and growing our key verticals like education, entertainment, events, retail, medical, and marketplaces on LiveX. We are full steam ahead. I have total confidence in our plan and in our team and the direction that our company is going. With that, I'm going to turn the call over to Andrew Chan, our Chief Financial Officer, who will provide further commentary on the quarterly financials. Andrew, take it away.
Andrew Chan
executiveThank you, Evan, and good afternoon, everybody. As a reminder, unless otherwise stated, all figures reported on today's call are in Canadian dollars and under IFRS. As Evan mentioned earlier, total revenue in the second quarter was up 73% to $6.1 million, as strong growth for product sales, technology services and renewable software increased. Total revenue for the first half of the year was up 130% to $13.8 million. Product sales grew 43% to $4.4 million for the quarter and grew 88% to $10.4 million during which -- during the first half of 2021 due to the expanded product offerings, adding additional sales channels and increased capacity to facilitate the fulfillment of sales. Our technology services grew 632% to $1.4 million for the quarter and 1,066% to $2.7 million for the first half of 2021. As previously noted, the nature of this revenue will vary from quarter to quarter based on the number, size and timing of customer projects that are underway. We continue to be pleased with the diversity and strength of our total revenue base. Gross profit increased by 6% to $2.3 million for the quarter and increased by 41% to $5.6 million for the first 6 months. As a percentage of revenue, gross profit was 38% in Q2 compared to 61% for the same period last year. This was a result of a higher product cost and delivery cost and customer service costs associated with technology services as we cope with higher demands for our products and services during this period. Total bookings for technology services was steady at $1.7 million this quarter with $4 million for the first half of the 6 months. After deducting revenues recognized in this quarter, we had a backlog of $2.2 million as at June 30, 2021, the majority of which will be recognized as revenue before the end of the year. Operating expenses for Q2 were $8.8 million compared to $3.4 million in the prior period. The increase in operating expenses, again, was primarily due to higher head count and related compensation costs and sales and marketing, research and development and corporate expenditures as the company continues to grow and invest in its growth strategy. We had a net loss of $5.9 million compared to a loss of $2.3 million in the prior period largely due to the factors that I just mentioned. Over the past 2 quarters, we've aggressively expanded our team size, skill set and capabilities across all functions organically as well as through our acquisitions. We believe that these investments will continue to support our growth strategy. As at June 30, 2021, we had cash of $15.4 million, inventory of $4.1 million and a positive working capital of $17.6 million. We continue to operate in this unusual period with the pandemic. However, we continue to monitor and respond to the conditions as they unfold. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Evan.
Evan Gappelberg
executiveThank you, Andrew. In closing, I'd like to thank our employees, our loyal shareholders and our partners for their continued support as we remain focused on preserving and increasing the long-term value of our company. On behalf of NexTech, I would like to thank you for your support and, as always, for taking the time for joining us on this call. Operator, we are now ready for questions and answers.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from Lisa Thompson from Zacks Research.
Lisa Thompson
analystSo let's just start like on the big picture of what's going on. I know that you have a lot of discretion as to how you want to treat the e-commerce business. What is the current strategy now?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveSo the current strategy, if you were listening, Lisa, is the metaverse.
Lisa Thompson
analystNo, no, no. One thing at a time. We'll get to that.
Evan Gappelberg
executiveYes. So the e-comm business is a business, as you know, that we've been growing since 2019. It continues to grow. And from NexTech's perspective, we continue to use it as a sandbox. We've just taken all of our augmented reality experiences that we created on those websites and converted them into much better experiences by using the Threedy.ai technology that we just acquired. So we're upgrading, updating and enhancing those sites to increase the value and increase the click-through rates.
Lisa Thompson
analystOkay. Do you have any objective as far as whether it should be cash flow positive or whether you should just grow revenues? Or does it really matter?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveYes. I mean at this point, we're just coming out of 2020, which was a year of just hyper growth because, as you know, everything shut down. So we're kind of assessing what to do next with our e-comm business. But clearly, it's not our focus, Lisa.
Lisa Thompson
analystRight. Right. Okay. And then on to the AR business, can you describe a little bit -- first off, is ARway closed yet or no?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveI believe it's closing on the -- I think it's the 18th of August. But the definitive agreement is signed. So yes, for all practical purposes, it's a done deal.
Lisa Thompson
analystAnd can you talk a little bit -- so they have an SaaS platform?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveYes.
Lisa Thompson
analystSo how do they get paid? How do they charge people for what they provide?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveWell, to date, they've been charging people for usage. So you could sign up for free and then you can start dropping in spatial maps and then dropping in AR experiences. And then you pay them a monthly subscription for using their platform. But we're going to restructure the whole payment plan there because we see lots more value. And so right now, it's set up for success, but we're going to take it to the next level, Lisa.
Lisa Thompson
analystOkay. And when you integrate all these different tools into your umbrella strategy with a single log-in, how do you charge people? Like is it all going to be standardized? Or...
Evan Gappelberg
executiveNo, you'll have different -- yes. So the content piece will likely be -- over time, that becomes more of a commodity, the content piece, but they'll pay for platform usage. So you'll pay a subscription fee and then you'll pay for usage, just like you do with any kind of cloud service kind of thing.
Lisa Thompson
analystOkay. All right. That makes sense. And how far off is that to being launched?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveThat's in motion now. So there will be likely multiple releases, the first release in Q4. And then the second and complete release will probably be Q1 of 2022.
Lisa Thompson
analystOkay. Sounds good. And let's -- I want to go back to just expenses. I know you took a big initiative to streamline a lot of things last quarter. I was wondering where we are as far as a baseline operating expense level.
Evan Gappelberg
executiveWe are aggressively pursuing controlling our expenses. And the goal is to bring the burn down to in the range of $1 million a month. So we're working very, very hard internally to bring the burn down. And ultimately, the goal is to get to cash flow positive, which that's what we're focused on. So we're in the process of executing on that as we speak.
Lisa Thompson
analystSo to just look at Q3 versus Q2, if you take whatever you spent in Q3 minus the $1.5 million gain on contingent consideration, is that the dollar amount we should look for? Or is that going to come down?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveI'm going to let you take that offline with Andrew. And -- yes, you could talk to Andrew about that.
Lisa Thompson
analystOkay. All right. Sounds good. Do you want to talk a little bit more about metaverse and how that fits in with everything? I'm still trying to understand it.
Evan Gappelberg
executiveYes. So think of the metaverse, Lisa, as being -- like you can either watch a movie, which is the current state of the augmented reality space, or you could essentially walk into a movie and have it envelop you where it's all around you. So imagine you have augmented reality experiences today where you scan a QR code and you put a product in your room and you're able to see it in your space and interact with it. Imagine you don't have to scan a QR code. Imagine you're in your room and you're able to just visualize an augmented reality experience. It's permanently there like a piece of furniture today that's in your living room. Imagine the augmented reality experience is also in your living room at a geolocation and it's always on, always present, always there. And so you could imagine in your living room, maybe it's not that as exciting. But imagine you go to museums or you go to places where it would be more exciting, even a theme park, and you have experiences that are always on. So that's kind of the metaverse in a nutshell. So we now have the technology to scan, which is the key foundational piece with ARway, create a spatial map, that's a 3D map with geolocation, pins inside that map. And then drop in an AR experience that lives in that map forever. Is that clearer? I'm trying, Lisa.
Lisa Thompson
analystYes. No, it is. I'm just trying to envision the core sales force and how they figure out how to sell what product to whom.
Evan Gappelberg
executiveWell, I don't think it's that hard to sell because, believe it or not, we've already seen use case -- there was just this Ariana Grande metaverse concert that just happened the other day through Epic Games, I believe. And so the metaverse has already started. And so from our standpoint, if you approach enterprise account, imagine a sporting event, let's just use that as an example. You go to a Yankee Stadium or Shea Stadium if you're a New Yorker, and you walk in and there's a metaverse experience there, where you have wayfinding, where you could find your seat, and there's arrows that are literally directing you. Where there's holograms of either past players or current players that are popping into your experience as you're walking around. It's this full-on immersive world of holograms, and that's something that's, I think, pretty easy to understand. And for our sales guys, they couldn't be more excited. They want to start selling this yesterday. So I think it's actually going to be a relatively easy sale because everybody is looking for more immersive experience when they go out and about in the world today.
Lisa Thompson
analystAll right. Well, that sounds great. Okay. So my last question is, do you have any updated guidance either revenues or bookings or any way to look at 2021 and 2022?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveWe have not talked about 2022. We have come out and kind of revised our 2021 range 30 to -- to $35 million to $50 million, which is up over 100% from 2020. And we see 2022 as a pivotal year where our augmented reality business really starts to take off with the SaaS platform. So this year is still a year of building the technology out. And next year, we kind of see -- like in Q4 and beyond, we see the tech starting to really take off, the augmented reality of tech stack.
Lisa Thompson
analystOkay. So just clarify, 30 to 35 -- $35 million to $50 million U.S. or Canadian?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveAll of our numbers are Canadian as we're -- as we report in Canadian, we're a Canadian company.
Lisa Thompson
analystRight. Just checking. Just making sure. Because like the last thing you just bought was in U.S. dollars million, right? So...
Evan Gappelberg
executiveYes. Yes. Okay. So that might have been -- yes, that's possible. But when we report our numbers, they're always Canadian.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] And your next question comes from [indiscernible].
Unknown Shareholder
shareholderQuestion, what is the strategy to bring content creators from YouTube that have significant followers, maybe hundreds of thousands or maybe millions of followers, to the LiveX platform? What's the strategy on doing that?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveSo we currently are not pursuing a strategy of bringing the YouTubers to LiveX right now. LiveX today is primarily being used for enterprise customers [indiscernible] is when LiveX becomes a self-service platform, which isn't going to happen until Q4 of this year, where these YouTubers can then go in and create their own YouTube channel/marketplace. So that's not available today. We're building that out, and it will be available in Q4.
Unknown Shareholder
shareholderAnd one more question. So ARoom will be a direct competitor to Zoom but with richer capabilities, correct?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveYes, it's basically the same. You almost can't tell the difference except it's a little prettier. I was kind of pleasantly surprised at how well the design was done on ARoom. And on my next investor call, I think it's about time that I demo it for all investors or maybe we make a little video to show you guys what that is because it is exciting. Yes.
Unknown Shareholder
shareholderAlso, Hopin's valuation, you've talked about it before, $5 billion, $5.65 billion. I'm an early investor in NexTech, haven't sold a share, continue to buy more. But what -- how would you explain the gap in the market cap between NexTech's market cap and Hopin's? Is Hopin only bigger because they got an early start in this? Was there more to the story?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveNo, there's a little more to the story. So your first question actually is the key to unlocking the value that Hopin has achieved. So Hopin is a self-serve platform that is not for enterprise or it's not white glove. Our platform is white glove, which is why we land big enterprise customers like MIT, Harvard, Johnson & Johnson, all these names that I brought up many, many times. They need white glove service. So in Q4 of this year, when we launch our self-serve version of LiveX that will attract the YouTubers, it will be head-to-head competitive with Hopin. And when that happens, the valuation should start to show up in NexTech as we start to sign up more and more people. Because basically, Hopin allows you to use their platform for -- it's like $99 a month or a couple of hundred dollars a month because it's self-serve. So our platform is not able to do that today, but we've been in development on building that, and that will be in market Q4 2021.
Unknown Shareholder
shareholderOkay. And if you don't mind me asking one more thing, how is the education part of NexTech moving to universities, AR of all these labs? Is it still building out? Or is it all kind of built out and now it's time to expand with other universities other than Ryerson?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveSo we're building -- it's, I'd say, maybe 90% build-out. So Ryerson obviously is our biggest and best university customer. And as I mentioned, they just reordered another $150,000 worth of augmented reality labs. Microsoft is our ed tech partner that now is introducing us to their customers. So there's a list of about 18 new universities, and Microsoft has introduced us to the first one. And there will be additional introductions. We're creating a very unique augmented reality offering in ed tech that we believe is going to be very, very well received and very valuable. But it is just getting started, meaning Ryerson, like you said, is the first. We believe there'll be significant sign-ups from additional universities [indiscernible].
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from [ Ken Kamikaze ] with Miken Investments.
Unknown Analyst
analystYes, Evan. When do you plan on releasing a hologram-infused dating app?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveThat's very good question. I'm sure you want to use it as do a lot of people. No, don't answer that. So I totally get what you want. We are launching the technology. So we might not launch a hologram dating app. What we're probably going to do is take a little bit of a different approach where we will be the technology provider for Match, for Tinder, for the dating apps that already have the audience. And so it will be -- like a premium service is the way I view it, where if you're one of those apps and you wanted to see a hologram of somebody, there might be an additional upcharge of which we would get a piece of. So it's still in development. It's not something that we can do today. I don't know that we're going to launch our own dating app because that's a big undertaking. So the idea is to have the technology working in other people's dating apps where there's already tens of millions of people using those apps.
Unknown Analyst
analystI understand. Another question. Earlier, when you were talking with Lisa, you mentioned when you were explaining the metaverse to her and you picked -- you described it as a movie and one being able to be immersed again into the movie. Do you see a market -- do you see an actual market in Hollywood, for example, where one can go to the theater or watch TV using glasses and using your technology, become part of the movie?
Evan Gappelberg
executive100% yes. In fact, the movies -- as we know it, the industry is changing very, very dramatically where it's no longer you're going to walk into a movie theater. I mean a movie theater near me just closed. So movie theaters have kind of had their run. And so now everything is live streaming in -- on-demand. And so if you think of being able to be in a movie or experience a movie as part of the metaverse, that's kind of the future, I think, of entertainment where movies will be different -- it will be a different format than what we're used to. And -- so yes, I mean it will be -- it's -- Hollywood's definitely part of the whole metaverse play, to answer your question.
Unknown Analyst
analystIs NexTech doing anything at the moment to garner that business?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveWe just acquired ARway, and we are looking at all the different opportunities that are in front of us. And we're going to initially try to bring to market a solution that can rapidly scale. And so we haven't actually decided which one of those solutions it's going to be. It could be Hollywood. It could be sports arenas. It could be corporate offices. It could be shopping malls. So we're going to go after all those businesses. But what's going to happen first, what's imminent is still a question mark.
Unknown Analyst
analystAnd one more question. Has there been any progress with your contact with NASDAQ?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveThere is progress, although I cannot detail it on this call. I do plan in the near-term future to come out with a press release that will explain NASDAQ to all of our shareholders and all interested parties. So just -- I know everybody has been super patient. I need a little more time for that.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] And your next question comes from [ David Ellis with Research Capital ].
Unknown Analyst
analystEvan, great to hear the results progressing nicely. A quick question on the -- you could use ARway as an example. But when you have an acquired company, I'm just wondering about your valuation metrics and how you pay for it. You've been -- done a pretty good job of keeping the share count down, but just wondering, you've got $15 million in cash, whether you use cash or shares or a combination of both and also the valuation metrics for, again, ARway would be an example.
Evan Gappelberg
executiveSure. Sure. Sure. So what we like to do in terms of acquisitions is we don't like to bet the farm. We like to acquire up-and-comers, smaller companies that don't have the same access to capital and the resources that we do as a public company. And so we generally buy companies in the $1 million to $10 million range. So ARway was a $1 million all-stock acquisition. So it wasn't -- there was no cash as part of the acquisition. So the founders all now are aligned with shareholders of NexTech. So they got $1 million worth of stock. So if you divide the share price by $1 million, you kind of get the number of shares. And so that's the ideal scenario, and that's how we -- it's very hard to value these start-ups using the traditional yardsticks because, in general, they're not fully developed, right? These companies have not fully developed their technology, developed their value prop. They have some amazing technology and some amazing potential, but it's not fully developed. And so the idea is, as we acquire them, we bring our team to the table. We bring our marketing machine to the table. We bring our capital and resources to the table. And we take them to the next level. And then we all get to share in the success. And that's been our strategy since we founded the company.
Unknown Analyst
analystAnd so how would you value the company, AR in this case, to offer them $1 million?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveYes, we valued them at $1 million. You want to know the formula?
Unknown Analyst
analystYes. Well, just generally. I mean oftentimes, there's multiple cash flow, but they probably don't have cash flow, I think, at this point.
Evan Gappelberg
executiveRight, right. So the formula is not something that I could share with you on this call. If you want to send me an e-mail, I could maybe take you through it.
Unknown Analyst
analystSure. Okay. One other quick question. You referenced earlier the use -- AR is using for quite a number of developers presumably operating out of their house. Are they paying? Or how does that work?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveYes. No. So they're not actually that. Believe it or not, a lot of these are -- a lot of the people that have been using ARway are agencies that have customers that are kind of experimenting with the metaverse. So some of them are out of the house, but a lot of them are actually businesses. For instance, ARway was working with Bosch, a major automotive company. And as Baran was just explaining to NexTech employees this morning that Bosch uses lasers, very expensive lasers for precision work that they do, but they were using the ARway spatial mapping as an inexpensive solution and they were using HoloLens as the viewing device. So there's actually some really interesting use cases. And Bosch kind of indicated that by using this metaverse technology, this spatial mapping tech, they believe that it could save them upwards of $1 billion in cost because these lasers are extremely expensive, and you need super high -- highly trained software engineers and specialists to operate it. With the ARway's tech, you don't need any of that. Anyone could do it. Even I can do it. Even you could do it. So it's really game-changing technology. I would say that stay tuned for what we bring to market because it's going to be super, super exciting as we bring the use cases to market.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. And those developers, are they being paid at all? Or how does that work?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveNo, they pay us.
Unknown Analyst
analystThey pay you?
Evan Gappelberg
executiveYes, yes. They're using the platform and it's a pay to play. So there's some part of -- it's a freemium model. So you could sign up for free. Limited usage for free. Past a certain point, you start paying.
Operator
operatorAnd at this time, there are no further questions.
Evan Gappelberg
executiveAll right. Thank you very much, and everybody, have a great day.
Operator
operatorThat concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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