NiSource Inc. ($NI)

Earnings Call Transcript · May 6, 2026

NYSE US Utilities Multi-Utilities Earnings Calls 54 min

Highlights from the call

In the first quarter of 2026, NiSource Inc. reported consolidated adjusted EPS of $1.06, reflecting an 8% year-over-year increase and achieving 52% of the midpoint of their annual guidance of $2.02 to $2.07. The company reaffirmed this guidance while also increasing its long-term EPS CAGR target from 8% to 9%-10% through 2033, indicating strong confidence in future earnings growth driven by strategic partnerships and regulatory execution. Revenue and operational improvements were highlighted, particularly through new agreements with Amazon and Alphabet, which are expected to unlock approximately $1.4 billion in customer savings over 15 years.

Main topics

  • Revenue Growth from Data Center Partnerships: NiSource's partnerships with Amazon and Alphabet are expected to deliver significant savings to customers, with 'annual savings up to $124 per year for residential customers.' This initiative is projected to contribute to the company's long-term growth strategy and enhance customer engagement.
  • Increased EPS Guidance: Management reaffirmed the consolidated adjusted EPS guidance for 2026 at $2.02 to $2.07 per share, while also increasing the long-term EPS CAGR target to 9%-10% through 2033, indicating strong confidence in future earnings growth.
  • Operational Excellence and Safety: NiSource reported the safest first quarter on record for employee injuries, emphasizing their commitment to operational excellence. 'These results underscore the operational discipline of our teams,' highlighting the company's focus on safety and reliability.
  • Regulatory Strategy and Customer Affordability: The company is actively engaging with stakeholders to ensure that regulatory practices support customer affordability. The implementation of Indiana House Bill 1002 and Ohio Senate Bill 103 aims to balance investment needs with customer impacts.
  • Genco Business Model Advantages: The Genco model is designed to provide 'speed to market' and flexibility for large-scale customers while shielding retail customers from costs. This model is seen as a competitive advantage in securing new contracts and driving economic growth.

Key metrics mentioned

  • Consolidated Adjusted EPS: $1.06 (vs $0.98 YoY, +8% YoY)
  • 2026 EPS Guidance: $2.02 to $2.07 (maintained guidance)
  • Long-term EPS CAGR: 9% to 10% (increased from 8% to 9%-10%)
  • Customer Savings from Partnerships: $1.4 billion (over 15 years)
  • Capital Investment Plan: $21 billion (unchanged)
  • Genco and Data Center-related Capital: $7.6 billion (additional investment)

NiSource's strong first quarter performance and strategic partnerships position the company well for future growth. The reaffirmed guidance and increased long-term EPS target are positive indicators for investors. However, monitoring regulatory developments and the execution of strategic negotiations will be crucial for assessing potential risks and catalysts moving forward.

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

Operator
#1

Hello, and welcome to NiSource First Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. Please note that this call is being recorded. [Operator Instructions]. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Durgesh Chopra, Chief Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Durgesh Chopra

Analysts
#2

Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to NiSource's First Quarter 2026 Investor Call. Joining me today are President and Chief Executive Officer, Lloyd Yates; Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Sean Anderson; Executive Vice President of Technology, Customer and Chief Commercial Officer, Michael Lowers; and Executive Vice President and Group President of NiSource Utilities, Melody Birmingham. Today, we'll review NiSource's financial performance for the first quarter and share updates on operations, strategy and growth drivers. Then we'll open the call for your questions. Slides for today's call are available in the Investor Relations section of our website. Some statements made during this presentation will be forward-looking. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the statements. Information concerning such risks and uncertainties is included in the risk factors and NDA sections of our periodic SEC files. Additionally, some statements made on this call relate to non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to the supplemental slides segment information and full financial schedules for information on the most directly comparable GAAP measure and a reconciliation of these measures. With that, I'll turn the call over to Lloyd.

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#3

Thank you, Durgesh, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today. I'll begin on Slide 3. At NiSource, our mission is to deliver safe, reliable and competitive energy that drives value for our customers. Our disciplined capital deployment, operational excellence and constructive regulatory frameworks remain the foundation of our business strategy. The first quarter of 2026 reflects continued execution of this strategy, supported by a robust regulatory foundation, ongoing operational improvements and a commitment to our customers. NiSource's value proposition is anchored in regulated utility operations across 6 highly constructive jurisdictions, providing diversification in both asset mix and regulatory environment. As we continue to modernize our electric and gas infrastructure, we are delivering on our core objectives by advancing innovative solutions such as NIPSCO Genco, partnering with Amazon and now Alphabet, to recognize higher and faster savings to customers. In addition to the announcements made a few weeks ago, I am pleased to share another expansion, an incremental 400 megawatts of capacity serving Amazon. Given the present inflationary climate, the value of these partnerships is tremendous, unlocking cost savings totaling approximately $1.4 billion for our existing customers over the next 15 years. Moving to Slide 4. Collaborative regulatory and stakeholder relationships while operating with excellence paves the way for NiSource to execute on its financial commitments. NiSource continues to work alongside stakeholders through regulatory processes to ensure resources are available for critical investments to protect our system, serve our customers reliably and grow local economies all while balancing the impact these investments have on our customers. Working collaboratively with stakeholders were able to support enhanced rate making practices in our jurisdictions and advanced legislative priorities. Such as Indiana House Bill 1002 and Ohio Senate Bill 103 to help ensure fair, balanced outcomes for our customers and our communities. A key tenet to our operating plan is to work efficiently and improve our systems and processes, leveraging AI and technological upgrades to improve both efficiency and reliability for our customers. Today, we reported first quarter 2026 consolidated adjusted EPS of $1.06, which accounts for 52% of our projected midpoint earnings guidance. We are reaffirming our 2026 consolidated adjusted EPS guidance of $2.02 to $2.07 per share, and we are increasing our consolidated adjusted EPS CAGR 100 basis points for 2023 to 2033 to 9% to 10% towards the high end of that range through 2030. We driven by the robust portfolio of investment opportunities supporting data centers. Turning to Slide 5. At NiSource Safety remains our top priority and the foundation of operational excellence and our first quarter results reflect the strength of that commitment. We delivered the safest first quarter on record for employee injuries dating back to 2016 through strong winter preparedness and disciplined field execution. We also continue to advance our proactive risk reduction programs across the system, completing over 11,000 miles of leak survey in the quarter, helping identify and mitigate 113 large volume leads well above plan. We exceeded our targets for both electric pole inspections and replacements for the quarter and maintain strategic execution in our cross-border program reinforcing the long-term resilience of our infrastructure. These results underscore the operational discipline of our teams and our continued commitment to delivering safe, reliable service across our footprint. The Apollo continuous improvement team is focused on boosting operational efficiency via programs like Fleet focus to reduce idling and rightsized fleets, streamlining IT applications and using AI to improve permitting, invoicing and locate screening. AI and analytics are improving NiSource's operations via the work management intelligence platform. enhanced spend visibility and supply chain enables faster procurement while AI contract tools have increased productivity over 20%. These solutions are expanding to customer and back-office functions for greater efficiency and service quality. We continue to engage proactively with stakeholders and regulators in all jurisdictions as shown on Slide 6. Our regulatory strategy is informed by thoughtful, careful consideration of customer affordability and cost pressures, ensuring we proceed in a manner that balances these concerns. As a strategic organization, we adapt to evolving sensitivities, ensuring we operate with both efficiency and effectiveness as we navigate new opportunities and challenges. We remain committed to engaging transparently throughout the regulatory process, providing timely updates to stakeholders on our investment plans and priorities only as they advance through proper channels. This approach ensures all parties are informed by respecting regulatory protocols and supporting safe, reliable service. Leveraging riders has consistently practiced in Ohio and other states enabled us to address affordability issues for customers by minimizing the need for frequent rate cases and by better timing capital allocation and recovery. This method supports continued investment in our infrastructure, maintaining safety and reliability while offering a balanced solution for system integrity and customer interest. We also support legislation such as Indiana House Bill 100 a that adopts measures like levelized billing to protect customers from bill fluctuations caused by weather-related usage spikes. In Pennsylvania, we have flexibility in our plan to address system modernization at a patient method of recovery, which reflects stakeholders' feedback while also ensuring service can be safely delivered. As we prioritize supporting our communities through capital investment that ensure safe, reliable service and foster economic development, we are in an active dialogue with stakeholders to highlight the value of our partnership and investments. In March, NIPSCO issued a second federal order requiring the continued operation of our Shaper coal plant. Our planning corporate testability to accommodate this directive reflecting our commitment to full regulatory compliance while maintaining customer affordability, financial stability and reliability. We're finding ways to drive direct savings to our customers by entering into strategic partnerships with data center customers. By leveraging the Genco regulatory model, our agreements with Alphabet and Amazon are expected to deliver annual savings up to $124 per year for residential customers, offering greater benefits that now accelerated time line than initially forecasted. Our commitment remains to transparently communicate with all stakeholders, providing timely updates on regulatory outcomes, project development and anticipated benefits for both customers and communities. Our priority is delivering sustainable solutions that fulfill present in future demand while maintaining our promise of value and excellence in service. With that, I'll turn it over to Michael Luhrs to dive deeper into the new data center strategies.

Michael Luhrs

Executives
#4

Thanks, Lloyd. I'll begin on Slide 7. Genco was designed for speed and flexibility to support growing energy demand in Northern Indiana, while simultaneously achieving cost savings for existing customers and driving economic growth in the communities we serve. NiSource remains steadfast in fulfilling the commitments we have made to stakeholders, regulators and customers and our ongoing focus ensures that promises may or promises delivered, reflecting our integrity and reliability in every aspect of our operations. We have recently made several advances on this initiative that now support $1.4 billion in customer savings. A new energy infrastructure agreement with Alphabet, 2 expansions on the Amazon agreement to accelerate and increase our service and the creation of the pooled resources approach, which enables both new and ongoing customer needs, which I'll speak more about shortly. These developments highlight Genco's unique innovative approach to serving data centers by providing speed to market, shielding retail customers from investment costs while reducing their monthly bill and strengthening shareholder value. Now on to Slide 8. We're excited to be launching a new partnership with Alphabet. By employing 340 megawatts of pool resources, including advanced battery solutions and utilizing available market resources will begin service this summer, and we'll expect to achieve full ramp by 2030. This 15-year contract will provide faster access to energy than previously anticipated and accelerate savings benefits to customers. Moving to Slide 9. In Amazon has continued to emphasize investing in the state of Indiana, and we are very pleased to report both an expanded collaboration with Amazon by growing their ultimate investment in the state and also in an accelerated time line to deliver energy to Amazon. Over 400 megawatts of contracted generation will serve the enhancements to the existing Amazon data center strategy and will help our retail customers realize savings faster and ultimately grow their total bill savings up to $124 per customer per year. To support growing large load demand, we are pursuing a pool generation strategy that allows us to efficiently develop and manage a diversified portfolio of resources access through Genco, as shown on Slide 10. The pool operates as an aggregation of assets similar to a traditional utility portfolio, matching large load customer demand with a flexible asset base. As we add new data center customers, the asset pool scales accordingly. This initial pool of approximately 800 megawatts is sized to meet load requirements plus applicable reserve margins. The pool provides flexibility to add assets over time as new customers come online. Importantly, the structure ring fences costs and risks so that the costs associated with these large loads are isolated from our broader retail customer base and are recovered through our bilateral contracts, while still allowing us to optimize resources, cost and system reliability. The incremental and accelerated megawatts of these agreements enabled by Genco will increase savings to existing customers. The Alphabet and Amazon investments will also drive economic development by creating new jobs, expanding the tax base and supporting the development of a skilled workforce in Indiana. This positions the state as a leader in technology-driven growth and energy infrastructure advancement. This differentiated business model of Genco and pool assets protects and benefits existing customers and enables us to serve new large load customers with speed and flexibility. We have a strong pipeline of opportunities to serve new and existing customers, as shown on Slide 11. We are moving customers through the pipeline, progressing them from developing opportunities to strategic negotiations and into signed contracts. Even after securing approximately 800 megawatts of additional capacity to serve Alphabet and Amazon, demand remains robust with 3 gigawatts of strategic negotiations and line of sight to approximately 2 gigawatts of developing opportunities. We believe there is a well-defined path for scaling through sustainable growth and we are committed to pursuing it in a thoughtful and differentiated manner. As demonstrated on Slide 12, we are progressing our strategy through achievement of regulatory and construction milestones. The original Amazon contract is pending commission approval and is expected in June ahead of civil site work later this year and load energization beginning in 2017. Upon IURC approval of the Amazon contract settlement, our new Alphabet and the Amazon agreements will be subject to an expedited regulatory review process of 90 to 120 days for approval resulting in anticipated orders later this year. We are well positioned to execute these projects efficiently, safely and in tandem with our ongoing operations. We remain active in the commercial supply chain to capitalize on available opportunities and our strong Quanta partnership positions us to successfully secure skilled labor to execute. Together, these advantages enable us to deliver on our commitments and drive long-term value for our customers and stakeholders. With that, I will turn the call over to Shawn.

Shawn Anderson

Executives
#5

Thank you, Michael, and good morning, everyone. I'll pick up right where you left off, highlighting the advancements in our data center business. The Genco business model offers differentiated flexibility to achieve speed to market for new customers disciplined savings for our existing customers and advancing economic development locally for our communities. As we pursue opportunities to serve data center customers we have designed these strategies with multiple layers of risk protection to Safeguard shareholders and existing customers. Rate structures and contractual terms are designed to provide full cost recovery and achieve appropriate risk-adjusted returns. Revenue strategies, such as minimum demand charges and long-term commitments, helped establish a secure revenue floor. Credit and counterparty risk is managed through credit support requirements by diversifying exposure across highly rated counterparties. Contractual protections allocate construction, operating and market risks to the party's best positioned to manage those. We have embedded risk management into our framework for contracted capacity purchases, which are secured, reducing our reliance on future market volatility. Importantly, the structure is designed to ring-fence this activity from the core regulated business. preserving balance sheet strength and minimizing volatility, all while enabling disciplined capital deployment into a strategic and growing investment plan. We will continue to be thoughtful of how to best protect all stakeholders while we advance this unprecedented growth opportunity. Now let's focus on Slides 13 and 14 in our financial results for the quarter. First quarter consolidated adjusted EPS was $1.06, an $0.08 per share increase versus the $0.98 reported in the same period last year. This 8% year-over-year increase is primarily driven by regulatory execution across our base business, recovering capital investments from 2025's capital and regulatory plans. By achieving 52% of our midpoint earnings guidance through Q1, NiSource is well positioned to achieve our full year financial objectives. Shown on Slide 15, our 5-year capital investment remains unchanged for our base business, which includes $21 billion in investments and $2 billion in upside opportunities. Our consolidated plan is now enhanced by $7.6 billion in Genco and data center-related capital. We are actively advancing incremental investment opportunities shown on Slide 16, which include electric generation, gas and electric transmission and system modernization, MISO long-range transmission projects FEMSA compliance and advanced metering infrastructure. These initiatives are not part of our base or upside plans, yet they present significant potential for long-term value creation. We are actively pursuing commercialization efforts in developing the investment thesis in collaboration with stakeholders to maximize the value generated by these opportunities. Reviewing Slide 17, the NIPSCO system continues to experience significant progress through consistent addition of generation capacity and with a substantial pipeline of projects underway to address growing customer needs and drive diversification in generation technology. Notably, the figure for signed Genco contracts has increased reflecting momentum in securing new agreements that will further strengthen grid reliability and diversification. These advancements underscore NiSource's consistent track record in delivering large-scale construction projects. positioning the company to serve a broader customer base, foster data center expansion and advance its long-term strategic goals. Turning to Slide 18. We are reaffirming NiSource's consolidated adjusted EPS guidance range for 2026 of $2.02 to $2.07 per share. We have increased our long-term guidance by 100 basis points and expect to deliver 9% to 10% consolidated adjusted EPS compound annual growth through 2033 and with performance tracking towards the high end of that range through 2030. We continue to demonstrate disciplined capital deployment with Genco expected to deliver returns that support increasing our earnings growth rate stemming from our projected 9% to 11% rate base growth. This guidance reflects our confidence in efficiently converting capital into earnings in a manner that is accretive to shareholder value. We have started 2026 strong and are confident in our plan. We are committed to keeping O&M costs steady during the planning period to ensure sustainability and reduce potential risks. Our plan remains highly executable. Projecting modest customer demand of less than 1% across all customer classes and which applies conservative financing assumptions through 2030. The regulatory actions completed last year have improved our visibility into 2026 performance, aligning with the regulated revenue increases necessary to achieve our stated guidance range. Looking ahead, Slide 19 reflects our improved outlook for Genco as it is poised for incremental earnings accretion in the future years. We have increased our 2030 Genco EPS guidance now projecting $0.25 to $0.35 per share. Our 2033 outlook is also higher as we're now guiding to $0.40 to $0.60 per share. These updates reflect our strong momentum and confidence in delivering incremental value as a result of our new and enhanced data center agreements. Slide 20 highlights our 5-year funding plans, we are reaffirming 14% to 16% FFO to debt in all years of the plan, a balanced mix of cash from operations, new long-term debt and $400 million to $600 million of equity each year is expected to further strengthen the balance sheet. This reflects a $600 million increase in our CapEx plan. The financing implications of contracted capacity and a pipeline of investment opportunities that continues to strengthen. Based on our consistent disciplined execution, derisking the plan while preserving flexibility we believe a balanced financing plan will help sustain the demand we continue to see across the pipeline. And finally, Slide 21, we've had a strong start to the year and remain on track to achieve our 2026 financial targets. We are confident in our strategy and our ability to deliver sustainable value for our customers and shareholders. NiSource offers a diversified and fully regulated utility with the opportunity to invest in programmatic gas infrastructure and long-term energy transition for a fully integrated electric business. We believe continued progress accessing unprecedented energy development and power demand resulting from robust economic development, onshoring as well as new data center development truly differentiates the value proposition relative to many alternatives in the marketplace today. And with that, operator, please open the line for questions.

Operator

Operator
#6

[Operator Instructions]. Your first question comes from the line of Shahr Pourreza of Wells Fargo.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#7

This is actually [ Andrew Cadaivi ] in for Shahr. Can you talk about what you're seeing in discussions with potential customers that has allowed you to firm the 1 to 3 gigawatts in your strategic negotiations bucket to 3 gigawatts?

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#8

So yes, Andrew, I can talk about that. To date, we've signed approximately 4 gigawatts of capacity per day to the centers when you couple that with our current engagement with multiple counterparties and strong demand, I think those facts support our confidence in advancing the 3 gigawatts of pipeline opportunities that are in active negotiations. I think you also add to that the Genco model represents a compelling opportunity and a competitive advantage to serve these large-scale growth while benefiting our existing customer base. So we're very confident in our ability to execute on that.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#9

And then with only $600 million of CapEx to serve the, I guess, incremental 1 gigawatt of hyperscaler load it's a pretty capital-light construct. So with the market capacity purchases you're making, how do you earn on those purchases. Is there -- can you give us some detail or color on how that flows through to earnings?

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#10

Shawn, do you want to address that?

Shawn Anderson

Executives
#11

Yes. So as we think about the way that NiSource and really Genco can create value for stakeholders, we look at the total amount of capacity that we're going to be able to generate what the cost is for that and what an appropriate risk-adjusted return is when you net those 2 out, that's what creates the earnings per share. As you mentioned, some of that is through capacity purchases. Some of that will be through constructing assets. And the net of that is what we guide to in the Genco guidance.

Operator

Operator
#12

Your next question comes from the line of Bill Appicelli of UBS.

William Appicelli

Analysts
#13

Just maybe along the similar lines of the question was just asked, but I mean when we think about the incremental needs here to service what could be part of the additional megawatts to come under strategic negotiations. I guess, how do we think about that resource mix in terms of whether it's additional generation to be built? And then sort of related to that, I guess, how do we think about the incremental earnings benefit of this, right? Is this more linear? Or does the accretion improve as you scale the size of the Genco?

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#14

Shawn?

Shawn Anderson

Executives
#15

Yes, I don't think it's linear. I do think it's project-specific and largely driven by what a customer needs and when they need it by. From there, we try to find the most attractive resource that's appropriate to serve that demand, both short term and long term and the most reasonable cost to achieve that on a long-term risk-adjusted basis.

William Appicelli

Analysts
#16

Okay. So I guess you'll just sort of update that. As you announced, it will be, to your point, bespoke for each deal, right, in terms of what the actual earnings benefit will be.

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#17

That is correct. The Genco model allowed us to provide bespoke solutions to our counterparties. And as we add to that coal will make it clear that we're adding that capacity in and how we're serving that customer.

William Appicelli

Analysts
#18

Okay. And then just under the framework of the affordability, you've increased customer benefits here today. I mean, how is that resonating with the customer base with the sort of the stakeholders, both on the political and regulatory front. Maybe just speak to that, if this is being well received? Or how should we think about the impacts here?

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#19

So we believe it's being well received, not just the customer base, but the regulators. If you think about -- I mean, again, we keep talking about the benefits of the Genco model, but we're going to provide $1.4 billion of benefit back to customers, which is $124 per year of real money going back to customers and at the same time, we're building in state of Indiana, and we're creating jobs and benefiting the communities we serve. So we think that this model is a competitive advantage is compelling and being well received by all of our active stakeholders.

Operator

Operator
#20

Your next question comes from the line of Steve Fleishman of Wolfe's Research.

Steven Fleishman

Analysts
#21

Good morning. So I guess what's kind of interesting with these two recent deals as you're providing kind of time to power availability, which obviously is hard to find, and people pay for. How much more timely like time to power the next few years access could you feasibly do because that clearly is something that I think a lot of customers want.

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#22

Michael?

Michael Luhrs

Executives
#23

So we haven't disclosed like the exact amounts of what we could do, but I will say that we continue to be very active in the commercial supply chain and we are focused on that speed to power. So we try to ensure that the capabilities, the resources, the comp structure there, everything from site development through to execution. So what I would say is at this point, though, we're very focused on making sure we execute these effectively. We are also very focused on continuing to execute on that speed to power in this near-term time frame to be able to provide counterparties with what they need and feel strongly about -- that's why we feel strongly about our 3 gigawatts in our strategic negotiations.

Steven Fleishman

Analysts
#24

Okay. And then just the 9 gigawatt total not to get too dreamy here, but just is that some kind of limit on the opportunity in the region or maybe just on your transmission system? Or is that something that would actually be larger over time?

Michael Luhrs

Executives
#25

So I wouldn't view it as a limit. What I would view it as is we're very disciplined and methodical in how we proceed through our pipeline in negotiations. We like to provide strong confidence in our execution and in our capabilities. And we will seek to maximize the opportunity that this can provide to stakeholders and our shareholders and our customers with what we do. And I would say that Indiana is a very strong territory by which to continue to develop opportunities given the geographics of the area, given its proximity to large centers like Chicago, given the transmission system backbone that we've discussed before, that's 345 with lots of redundancy, the gas supply situation. So I would look at that 9 gig as what we are focused on in that pipeline, but not what the ultimate opportunity might be.

Steven Fleishman

Analysts
#26

Okay. And then switching gears, I have to ask just on the recent governor letter to utilities in Pennsylvania and what your how you're interpreting that? And what does it mean for your future rate case strategy and investment in Pennsylvania, if anything?

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#27

So Steve, right now, I'd say we're actively engaged intensively with all the stakeholders as we develop a response to Governor superiors letter. If you think about last year, we came out of December and we had a very constructive regulatory outcome for a rate case, and we're evaluating future regulatory mechanisms such as looking at our trackers, to support future capital investment. So we do have mechanisms that can support future tracker investments. our 5-year financial plan that we have is built with a lot of flexibility, and that allows us to adopt to both opportunities and challenges. So as we work with those stakeholders to address the governor's concerns, we will continue to emphasize the importance of safety and federal and state requirements and investments that we need to make to operate the system reliably. At the same time, we want to highlight the need to maintain a strong balance sheet to support those critical investments and then adjust accordingly. So it's something that me and the entire team were engaged in making sure that we're on top of this thing. We've seen and had great experience in Pennsylvania as a constructive regulatory state and we're going to try and understand what this means so that we can maintain and run our system efficiently and effectively.

Operator

Operator
#28

SP1 Your next question comes from the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith of Jefferies.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith

Analysts
#29

I appreciate it. Nicely done. Yet again, I got to say. Maybe just to pick it up on the earnings composition question. I know I'm not keen to disclose too much on the $0.15, $0.18 move up and guide. But how do you think about bifurcating that between sort of the rate base and own gen portion versus contracts? Then maybe the more critical question here is -- how do you think about the ability to own more of that gen over time? You talked here about this 800-megawatt pool. Is that something that over time you effectively would in-house, if that's the term -- and is that kind of another element of compounding growth maybe beyond the 2030 to 2033 period? How do you think about the evolution of your ability to own the related [ Gen ]?

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#30

I think that our -- as Shawn mentioned earlier, we get more customers and build what alcohol provide bespoke generation solutions. We will own some of that yet. We will own a -- probably a significant amount of that generation and try to provide what trying to provide the best solution to the customer as we negotiate these contracts. Michael, you want to add to that at all?

Michael Luhrs

Executives
#31

Yes. What I would add to it is, it might be helpful to talk just a little bit more about when we talk about bespoke solutions. We insured within the Genco model that we have the capability to serve 3,000 megawatt increments and also serve 300-megawatt increments. And in doing that, we've created the capacity to do those bespoke solutions that can meet those. The pool resources that we have -- that is the mechanism by which we will own all these resources that provided to NIPSCO to meet the resource adequacy. So our druthers and our focus has been to not have commodity risk or market exposure. So when we go out, we are getting contracted generation capacity 1 way or the other. I would look at it as we own effectively all of it when we're doing it. We are bringing it into that portfolio to serve those customers in a holistic fashion with speed to market.

Shawn Anderson

Executives
#32

Yes. And then the only piece I'd add to this, Julian, would be because it is not functioning directly off of a return on rate base model, the accretion dilution that we guide to both short term and long term and how we think about the potential for value creation over time doesn't necessarily require us to own it. It really helps us best monetize the capacity attributes in a way that's attractive to stakeholders both to our retail customers as we're exemplifying with the $1.4 billion in savings as well as to our shareholders as we expect really return on and of the cost of those assets over the life of the customer agreements and making sure that, that financial stability maintains.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith

Analysts
#33

Got it. Excellent. And then just to needle a little bit on this 3 gigawatt strategic negotiation here. How should we think about the gating items for conversion there? Is it dependent at this point on getting the approvals of Amazon and now Alphabet here? Is there some sort of serial nature to just get putting this in front of the IRC, et cetera? Or is it not necessarily precluded as far as you would set expectations. Obviously, you've delivered well against these targets, and it seems like you still got a ways to go against that 3 gigawatts too?

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#34

As I've said in the past, these are complex transactions and these negotiations take time. I wouldn't limit these to just Amazon and Alphabet. I've said earlier in the script and Michael said that we have -- we're talking to multiple counterparties here. And I think it takes -- it just takes time to get these things done. And get them done correctly. We've set our organization up and structured ourselves to execute more efficiently and more effectively, and that gives me a whole lot more confidence that we're going to get these done.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith

Analysts
#35

Got it. Excellent. And then just quickly on the ATM, how much latitude do you have for more deals now that you raised the ATM range? Or is that effectively utilize the CapEx increase there? I suspect you have some latitude.

Shawn Anderson

Executives
#36

Yes. We absolutely have a lot of latitude and our financing plan, the $400 million to $600 million annually that we disclosed today is already contemplated in the filed ATM structure. Therefore, we've got the capacity to handle that type of volume without impact.

Operator

Operator
#37

Your next question comes from the line of Eli Jossen of JPMorgan.

Elias Jossen

Analysts
#38

Just wanted to circle back a bit to the speed to market theme that was touched on earlier, maybe within the context of the resource mix for the pool strategy, we've seen you use a mix thus far, but is there sort of a resource priority list that you have just in terms of executing that speed to market? And then maybe more broadly, do you have a an update on where you are in terms of land and equipment acquired for those new assets that we're adding?

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#39

Michael?

Michael Luhrs

Executives
#40

What I would say on the speed-to-market aspect is Other than -- we make sure that we are meeting our reliability, MISO, accreditation, IRC requirements and what we need to ensure that we're good stewards of the system and what we're doing for our customer base. We try to make sure we are deploying resources and capabilities across a broad spectrum of resources and bringing them into that pool and bringing them into that resource mix to do just what you said, which is to ensure speed to market and ensure the capability to be able to provide what the customers need and what our shareholders need in returns with those. So it's not a prioritization of assets within that asset pool. It's really making sure that they meet that reliability requirements. They meet the necessity for being able to have the time to market, speed to market with the customers and meeting the MISO and accreditation. And we are very active in that. We are very consistent in that -- and I think what you're seeing here and how we're growing the portfolio from having CCGTs, having batteries, adding in additional contracted generation assets being things that are confirming market capabilities and resources is that continued mix will continue to grow, and we will add to that.

Elias Jossen

Analysts
#41

Understood. And then maybe just thinking about the upcoming URC approval process. I know you have a very helpful slide in your deck, walking through some timeline milestones. But can you just kind of provide increased color on what the next steps are procedurally and the time line for some of the review coming up? And maybe just to add on to that. I know there's been some discussion of development in La Porte County, where there's Microsoft has been active. So those have come out in the URC filings as well. Any color there would be helpful.

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#42

Go ahead, Mike.

Michael Luhrs

Executives
#43

So what I would say is Slide 12, I think, is a good representative slide of the progression and the progress that we have made through our regulatory process and how we're really executing on this in a defined sustainable and methodical manner. And you can see that as we've gone through it, it includes everything from like the zoning application approval in February, the acceleration amendment filed with the IURC. As we mentioned before, if the settlement is approved that, that would lead to an expedited approval process of these special contracts, which is 90 to 120 days, which just highlights another advantage of how we've structured this Genco model and the capabilities around it. But we feel we have a great regulatory team regulatory team is working these through. We feel confident relative to these approvals and moving them through the process, and we will just continue to execute on that, and you can see the dates associated with -- we expect those by first half of 2026 and then moving into the actual construction phases with them.

Operator

Operator
#44

Your next question comes from the line of Nick Amicucci of Evercore ISI.

Nicholas Amicucci

Analysts
#45

Given kind of the time line, I think you guys might have just touched upon it, but I just want to kind of clarify -- just given the time lines, and we kind of have the data center pipeline through 2035, I guess, and then the -- it seems like there's the expedited approval process could aim is. But I just want to be clear, when we think about those up to 2 gigawatts of developing opportunities kind of later date, like what -- how quickly would we need to see those be brought into the fold of the pipeline? Are into kind of actually like signed capacity for them to actually be COD by 2035?

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#46

I think that those are -- those 2 gigawatts are what we call development opportunities. I think that how quickly they get bought into strategic negotiations kind of remains to be seen. What I'll tell you is there's significant demand in the Indiana region for hyperscalers and data centers I think as we think about more developmental opportunities up there. We'll study things like that. So there's no real time line for how quickly they get bought it. We have a long queue, and we have a lot of work to do that demand is high, and we'll get to it as our resources and equipment and things allow us to.

Michael Luhrs

Executives
#47

And as we've mentioned earlier, we'll continue that disciplined methodology. And as we discuss with the strategic negotiations and as was mentioned in the question prior around Microsoft and that the fact that land in Lepore. We continue to work those opportunities in just a very methodical manner. And as we do, we will continue to update like which gigawatts are in which portion of that pipeline of the portfolio.

Nicholas Amicucci

Analysts
#48

Got it. And then just wanted to clarify, too. So there's no increase in guidance there's no consideration of the 3 gigawatts in strategic negotiations embedded within that, correct?

Shahriar Pourreza

Analysts
#49

That is correct.

Operator

Operator
#50

Your next question comes from the line of Paul Fremont of Ladenburg.

Paul Fremont

Analysts
#51

Great update. I guess -- my question is, I'd like to maybe better understand the role of Shafer generation potentially under a PPA in that 800-megawatt pool. And do you have sort of the ability for -- to shift the operating costs that are now being picked up by retail customers to the data center customers?

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#52

So today, the way we look at the shape, as I mentioned in my script, the second 202 order and we consider the shape or units part of our retail customer capacity. Our goal here is to continue to recover costs through the FERC process. And has there been no real consideration today of shifting that over into a PPA.

Paul Fremont

Analysts
#53

Okay. So there -- the pool of resources doesn't include any surplus generation that you're now getting from the Shafer plant?

Michael Luhrs

Executives
#54

That is correct. Shafer is not a Genco asset. Paper is a NIPSCO asset. So it is not part of the pool, and it is not part of those resources.

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#55

Yes. It's a regulated light asset.

Nicholas Amicucci

Analysts
#56

And there's no PPA connection either to Genco?

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#57

That is correct. And there are no NIPSCO base assets that are serving our existing base customers that are within the pool or PPA to the pool.

Nicholas Amicucci

Analysts
#58

And then I guess my next question is how long would it take to supply generation to prospective new customers. And I guess that would include these two customers or the expansion of AWS and Alphabet?

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#59

So remember, as part of the Genco model, every solution is a bespoke solution and they have bespoke ramp rates and all of those things go into consideration of timing and kind of generation we provide.

Nicholas Amicucci

Analysts
#60

Great. And then I guess since Genco is growing as a percent of your total contribution, when can we sort of expect to see separate financials?

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#61

Shawn?

Shawn Anderson

Executives
#62

Yes, we'll break that out once we get to a place where Genco is a more material contribution to NiSource's ongoing financial results.

Operator

Operator
#63

Your next question comes from the line of Travis Miller of Morningstar.

Travis Miller

Analysts
#64

Fortunately or unfortunately, I'm going to follow on here a couple of lines of questions in your comments earlier. The pool strategy, do you need approval from the IRC for any new assets or any contracts outside of approval for just the data center contract? Essentially, are you able to serve that data center contract with any assets and purchases without regulatory approval.

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#65

SP1 So the existing process that we have with the IRC as Genco is a regulated entity as we filed a special contract with the IURC for approval. As we file those special contracts with the IURC 4 approval, we do provide them with information relative to what assets are being added to the system. The special contract is approved, that information on what assets are being added is typically within the special contract but does not require like a separate CPCN approval with it. So the pool strategy is a mechanism by which that we're able to effectuate through Genco in directly. And that comes out as special contracts with counterparties that the IURC will approve, if that makes sense.

Travis Miller

Analysts
#66

Yes, absolutely. Okay. Sounds good. One other quick clarifying. I think you might have raised -- you might have answered this early, but just to clarify, the 9% to 10% growth includes only the existing Amazon, Amazon expansion in the half of that, right?

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#67

Correct. The 9% to 10% grower only includes signed customer contracts, not any no strategic negotiation.

Travis Miller

Analysts
#68

Okay. Got it. And then the mechanism for flowing savings back to customers. I wonder if you could talk a little bit about that in terms of the $1.4 billion number, how that actually gets back to NIPSCO customers.

Michael Luhrs

Executives
#69

So that $1.4 billion is a defined mechanism within each special contract that distinctly lays out how that -- how those funds will be accretive and then provided back to the NIPSCO base. And in the end, it is a credit against the bills of those retail customers and of those customers that are on the electric generation side for NIPSCO. So it is a -- it is not a volumetric reduction it is a credit to those customers from what we're doing within these contracts.

Operator

Operator
#70

Thank you. I'd now like to hand the call back to Lloyd Yates for closing remarks.

Lloyd Yates

Executives
#71

I want to thank all of you for your questions and your continued interest in NiSource. We appreciate it. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator
#72

Thank you for attending today's call. You may now disconnect. Goodbye.

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