Northern Star Resources Limited (NST) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 24, 2021

Australian Securities Exchange AU Materials Metals and Mining earnings 35 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Northern Star FY '21 Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Stuart Tonkin, Managing Director. Please go ahead.

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#2

Good morning, and thanks for joining the Northern Star Full Year Financial Results Presentation. With me on the call today is Chief Financial Officer, Morgan Ball. I would like to start by emphasizing what a pivotal year it has been for Northern Star. We have emerged from a period of significant M&A activity with an exceptional asset portfolio, which will drive sector-leading growth and financial returns. In simple terms, we have the gold inventory, which will underpin the growth outlined in our recent 5-year strategy. Our focus is now on unlocking the full value of that inventory in a way which maximizes shareholder returns. This organic growth will be generated by a simplified business, utilizing the synergies of the consolidated Kalgoorlie and Yandal regions and delivery of the Pogo growth strategy. Today's results contain numerous accounting adjustments associated with the merger. But we have sought to simplify our metric of success into one key measure of cash earnings, which are a record $648 million. This impressive result includes the Saracen assets from the 12th of February and was achieved at gold price of $2,277 an ounce. So with current spot price, more than $200 an ounce above this, we are positioned well to generate cash. We emphasize in our strategy that Northern Star is a business first, and there is no better demonstration of business health than cash generation. We believe that cash earnings provides a transparent and meaningful view of our business performance, both for the past year and into the future. We have a demonstrated history of profitable organic growth and have a clear pathway to build from our current 1.6 million ounces per annum to 2 million ounces per annum over the next 5 years. We continue to invest in exploration at our world-class assets and grow gold reserves on a per share basis. And now with KCGM under single ownership, this Tier 1 asset will provide significant contribution to further reserve growth. We also have a track record of paying consistent dividends for the past 10 years. And today, we announced a new dividend policy that delivers an increased final dividend of $0.095 per share, taking the full year payout to $0.19 per share fully franked. Our policy of active portfolio management, as demonstrated by the recent sale of our Kundana assets for $400 million is part of our commitment to maximizing our returns on invested capital. I extend my thanks to the Kundana team for their significant contribution to Northern Star and in supporting a smooth transition of business to Evolution Mining. Finally, with the backdrop of sector buoyancy and labor and materials cost pressures, we have a highly capable operating team to drive productivity and deliver merger synergies to lower our all-in costs as we grow. I encourage you to take the time to review our annual report and financial results and discover the significant platform we have established to deliver sustainable shareholder returns. I would now like to pass to Morgan to discuss the financial highlights.

Morgan Ball

executive
#3

Thanks, Stu, and good morning to all. I will be referring to some of the slides in our presentation that was released on the ASX platform earlier this morning. Stu has already said it, but it bears repeating, FY '21 was a transformational year for Northern Star, both corporately with the Saracen merger and financially with record production, cash flow and profits. From a statutory account perspective, FY '21 was unique, given the accounting requirements in relation to the merger, which became effective from 12th of February. Whilst this year's statutory earnings have been impacted by the merger accounting, our ASX releases this morning highlight the key elements of the company's underlying performance both for FY '21 and on a going-forward basis. I now refer you to Slide 5 of the presentation, which sets out the key financial highlights. As you can see, Northern Star has once again achieved improved year-on-year financial performance in a number of key areas, namely: record revenue of $2.8 billion, a 47% increase in our underlying EBITDA to $1.2 billion. Record cash earnings of $648 million and a record underlying NPAT of $372 million, which is a 28% increase year-on-year. It's also pleasing to note that despite the challenges posed by COVID and the inflationary environment that we are in, we have been able to make good control over our costs as reflected in the increase in our EBITDA margin. On Slide 7, we've set out the company's cash earnings for the financial year. Given that there will be an ongoing noncash impact on the company's statutory earnings from the merger accounting adjustments, cash earnings provides a clear measure of the underlying quality of the financial performance of the business. The concept of cash earnings shows the amount of underlying earnings after claims external to Northern Star, which is available for return to shareholders, growth-related investment and balance sheet management. In relation to FY '21, as you can see, we have removed specific items from our EBITDA of $2.3 billion to arrive at an underlying EBITDA of $1.2 billion. Then in line with our definition of cash earnings, we have subtracted sustaining capital of $356 million and interest and tax paid of $155 million to arrive at our FY '21 figure of $648 million. Turning to Slide 8. As you heard from Stu, the Board has reached the decision to update the company's dividend policy from a percentage of revenue approach to a percentage of cash earnings. Under the updated policy, the company will target an annual dividend payment in the range of 20% to 30% of these cash earnings. The final dividend for the year of $0.095 per share reflects approximately 31% of the cash earnings for the half. Whilst this is slightly above the top end of the range, the Board was cognizant that the Saracen-related earnings were only included 4 months of this period. By way of comparison, this dividend equates to 6.7% of revenue, above the previous policy levels which targeted 6% of revenue. This dividend will take the total dividend payout for the financial year to $0.19 per share or $221 million, which out of interest, is 8% of our full year revenue. Given the one-off accounting changes during the year, Slide 9 reconciles the company's statutory NPAT of $1 billion to our underlying NPAT of $372 million. As you can see on the slide, a primary driver of the statutory in that amount is the fair value revaluation of Northern Star's existing 50% interest in KCGM. This interest was required to be revalued upon completion of the merger as a result of the company obtaining 100% control of this asset. This is accounted for by an increase in net assets on our balance sheet with a corresponding pretax gain of $1.9 billion booked to the profit and loss, along with the corresponding noncash deferred tax expense. On Slide 10, we have summarized the major out of the ordinary items impacting this year's accounts. These include the fair value uplift in the Saracen assets and Northern Star existing 50% share of KCGM and also the impairment of the historical low-grade stockpiles at KCGM. Given the investment and operational progress we have made at KCGM, we have seen a material decrease in the expected depletion of the historical stockpiles at the operation. Without any medium to long-term plans to process this contained metal, we've taken the conservative view to write the accounting value down to 0 at June 30. You will recognize Slide 11 from our strategic plan presentation released in July. We have established key financial parameters that will support the company's growth strategy going forward, whilst maintaining a strong balance sheet and the ability to provide sustainable returns to shareholders. Following the recent sale of the Kundana assets to Evolution, we reduced our corporate bank debt from $662 million at June to $262 million. Our strong net cash position and the liquidity available for our balance sheet as the company is well placed to execute on its growth plans to lift annual production to 2 million ounces per annum. Finally, I would like to personally thank the Northern Star financial, commercial and legal teams as well as our auditor, Deloitte. This has been one of the more interesting year ends that I've been through, purely due to the number of moving parts. Both the NST team and Deloitte have gone the extra yard to pull this all together against the timetable in what I believe is a transparent and professional manner. On that note, I'll pass you back to Zoe for our Q&A. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#4

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Sophie Spartalis with Bank of America.

Sophie Spartalis

analyst
#5

Just a few questions from me, if I can. On the front page of the results release, you talk around having a clear pathway to 2 million ounces, but you also talk around this profitable growth returns and actively managing the portfolio. Can you elaborate on this further? And I guess, just guide us as to what we should be looking for going forward, please?

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#6

Thanks, Sophie. So I think the best material, again, this is the financial results focused, but in our strategy, presentations and obviously the biggest presentation, selling that 5-year pathway to 2 million ounces, and that's without the Kundana assets contribution. Largely, that is your Yandal growing from sort of the 450,000 up to 600,000 ounces is growing, Pogo from 200,000 to 300,000 and moving all the Kalgoorlie region are primarily from KCGM, but the sum of the parts there, 900,000 that takes us up to the 2 million ounces by FY '26. Importantly in that, the capital is being spent for the next 3 years. Every year, this year, net capital is $570 million, steps down to $425 million and again, down in '24. So once that capital spend, the all-in costs reduced as the capital washes off and the all-in sustaining costs improve on that economy of scale, particularly in the Yandal. So they are the key highlights. Everything is in our control. We've got the team, we've got the assets. It's around now the execution part to deliver that organic growth over the next early few years of that 5-year strategy.

Sophie Spartalis

analyst
#7

And then just in terms of that, you've got the team, you've got the assets, I guess you also need the bonds on seat. Can you just talk around of that growth capital amount, how much is protected and how much is variable in terms of open to movement given those industry pressures?

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#8

Look, we probably look at the near-term stuff. A lot of it is moving waste at KCGM. There's a lot of capital pre-strip on the southern cutback of Fimiston and the OBH to the north. So that is around material movements and it is -- seats in trucks. Look, that's a challenge, and we've encouraged and put in promotional things to get people to Kalgoorlie and get those jobs filled. The other part is the engineering at TBO, and we've got that contracted there with GR Engineering Services, a $100 million contractor and have started handing that over for them to start that commencement of the mill expansion from 3 million to 6 million tonnes. So that work is contracted and underway. Look, labor pressure for the sector exists. There's probably 140,000 resource jobs for 120,000 people in the state. So without borders, that's a void of absolute production activity. But we have a lot of the people in our team and in control, and we prioritize where we put those people to ensure we deliver our guidance. So that's -- there's flex in our plans, but that's in our control presently.

Sophie Spartalis

analyst
#9

Okay. And then also part of that question, that initial question that I asked in terms of actively managing the portfolio. Can you just talk around where Paulsens sits in the portfolio and more broadly other assets that aren't in your growth outlook today where that priority lies?

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#10

Yes, for sure. So when we say active portfolio management, we say we can operate 3 to 5 production centers. We've obviously got 3 presently. And we're saying this sort of 1.8 million to 2.2 million ounces. So you can flex up and down in how many of those assets. The divestment of Kundana means that we can reapply capital into our business and reapply skills and special team skills in Kalgoorlie for greater returns. The Paulsens is not a production asset, again, and not core at the moment, but it's still on care and maintenance and able to be turned on. And then the other important asset, obviously, the Tanami. We've sold for a joint venture recap there with Tanami Gold and putting together the team to go forward on a 50-50 basis there that shareholders have result on. So there's still plenty of pipeline, and it's important to have projects all the way up the pipeline from your greenfield development all the way through to your production. And you'll see that again in our strategy highlighted in my earlier slides showing that we've got all of those things in there. So it's more around those that are in production. We've got the 3 key production centers in Kalgoorlie, Yandal and Pogo to deliver that 2 million ounces.

Sophie Spartalis

analyst
#11

Okay. So that's awesome. Just 1 final question for Morgan. Just in terms of the write-down of the low-grade stockpiles at KCGM, just given there was no near-term plan to process these materials. Can you just talk through that a little bit further, please?

Morgan Ball

executive
#12

Sure, Sophie. As you would have seen, again, in the strategy, we are based on our actual in-pit mining. We actually are realizing a lot more tonnes and ounces than we initially forecast as we've taken on this asset. Given that, as you'd be aware, there's the -- what we term the marginal stockpile is there and that sort of runs at above the ground. And then there's what's called this low-grade stockpile of almost mineralized waste, it sits at about 0.65 grams. That's been there historically with the previous zone have never been touched. Eventually, at some stage, we may put it through the mill, but that's so far out based on inventory accounting, it was appropriate that we write that stockpile only off for the year.

Operator

operator
#13

Your next question comes from Daniel Morgan with Barrenjoey.

Daniel Morgan

analyst
#14

I refer to CapEx guidance specifically on Page 13. Here, it appears that CapEx is for the upcoming year, $682 million gross, $570 million net, which compares to the $570 million announced back at the Strategy Day. I just want to understand this a bit more. And there's also a footnote there that suggests the accounting standard change in FY '23. So this isn't going forward. Can guys confirm the Strategy Day guidance of FY '23 and FY '24 of $425 million and $380 million, respectively, is therefore both gross and net?

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#15

You sound like an accountant, Dan, you're exactly right. That's the case. So obviously, under accounting standards, we are required to reduce the capital investment in growth assets by gold that happens to be realized while we're in pre-commercial. That changes at the end of this financial year. So those numbers in the Strategy Day, our like-for-like in that regard, we've taken the net number out. We've shown you a net number of gold received this year. Going forward after this year, that's the growth number we'll spend on the capital and the goal will get to P&L.

Daniel Morgan

analyst
#16

All right. And could you finalize...

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#17

Dan, $570 million is the net number. And then in FY '23, $425 million is the same. Gross -- it's a gross number. $380 in FY '24 is a gross number because the accounting standards change.

Daniel Morgan

analyst
#18

Okay. That's important to know. And which assets are these development receipts going to be at? And can you tell us the expected ounces and the price assumption you've used there because obviously the price assumption might be different?

Morgan Ball

executive
#19

Yes. I think we've actually got a note around the price assumption in the Word release, Dan, you wouldn't have had a chance to read that yet. Obviously, that could change depending on our hedge book and the spot price, but it's roughly 50,000 ounces forecast at approximately $2,240, $2,250 . It's predominantly out of Thunderbox underground, which will click into commercial production during the course of this year and Thunderbox C-zone, the C-zone pit. And then as Stu mentioned, we're still moving a lot of precommercial dirt at KCGM. So there's a bit coming out of there as well. So the benefit with that is you see us in KCGM, we were getting over 30% of the ounces from the same material in those pre-strips. That's an additional credit and a spot being higher than that assumed price. It's actually netting off -- significantly netting off the benefit of your CapEx.

Daniel Morgan

analyst
#20

Yes. And last question is on the dividend. So you've changed the dividend policy and now focusing on cash earnings, which take into account sustaining CapEx but not growth CapEx. Can you just talk about how you came up with the dividend policy and why you haven't done, say, overall free cash flow, for instance?

Morgan Ball

executive
#21

Yes. Thanks, Daniel. So look, many things were considered and discussed in all the scenarios. I think the percentage of revenue has served us well over the journey, while we've organically grown and invested capital to grow over the recent years, and it's worked well almost as a proxy royalty to shareholders in that regard to percentage of revenue. On a go-forward basis, the capital in the next few years, once that is spent, we're at that run rate of that 2 million ounces. It is all around the cash generation out of that portfolio and the return to shareholders on that balanced capital management. So what the difficulty and you'll see this in these presentations in regard to merger accounting, your traditional metrics, NPAT, EBITDA kind of get destroyed with that merger accounting assumptions in there. So we've adjusted a non-GAAP measure, which is cash earnings, you will get a definition there highlighted. But we believe historically for the year and go forward, it is the best representation of business health in cash generation and therefore, 20% to 30% of that cash generation between the shareholders is a great opportunity for return on dividend and it also is higher than the previous policy.

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#22

And I guess, Dan, the one thing I'd add. As opposed to free cash flow, which some of our peers do, we do have good capital growth options in the business, but we think the business underlying that can handle a good, strong, consistent dividend return to shareholders. So we didn't want to penalize the dividend by removing free cash flow before we calculated the dividend. And we do see that growth capital tailing off. So it makes really good sense for our business.

Operator

operator
#23

Your next question comes from Nick Evans with The Australian.

Nick Evans

attendee
#24

Look, I noted what you've sort of said in response to the labor stuff a little earlier on. I just wondered sort of what impact that's having on Pogo. You sort of -- just had a quick look through the annual report and you said that the lack of labor mobility between Australia and the U.S. was a bit of a problem. But are you seeing sort of similar kind of skills issues within the U.S. sort of mining labor market? Or is it pretty much restrained to Australia at the moment?

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#25

Yes, good question. Look, we see the availability of the labor in the U.S. And remembering probably half of the team at Pogo, Alaskan residents and half come up from lower 48 states. We are reliant on some expat specialist skills moving from Australia to Alaska, which is the real constraint at the moment. And we're only talking about 5s and 10s. We're not talking about hundreds and thousands. So the difficulty of moving labor in and out of Australia is challenging for the business at Pogo. But our team, we absolutely appreciate. They're managing through that [indiscernible] et cetera. And it doesn't appear to be that same lockdown scenario in the U.S., you've got a lot more ability to transport labor.

Operator

operator
#26

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from Mitch Ryan with Jefferies.

Mitch Ryan

analyst
#27

Sorry, guys. I may have missed it. I just had a little audio issue, but can you just talk through that change of dividend policy and just confirm it's percent of cash earnings and how you calculate that versus -- it's not operating cash flow, is it?

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#28

We've actually -- again, in the Word, cash earnings is the main criteria reviews. In the Word document, you'll see we have a definition right up the front. Essentially, it's our underlying EBITDA, which is really our operational cash flow proxy, and we remove tax paid and interest paid, which are obligations outside of Northern Star. And that gives us a cash flow number, which we believe we should share with our shareholders, as I mentioned to Dan. But some companies use free cash flow, which we've said before, the dividend may take out the growth capital. We haven't done that because we're reflecting the underlying sustainable cash of this business, whereas the growth capital discretionary is too loose for growth capital, but we've started a path, but it is something that can be turned off to some extent. So we're trying to reflect the underlying sustaining cash flow of the business.

Mitch Ryan

analyst
#29

Great. Okay. And secondly, I guess I just note that the small write-down of exploration assets, do you think that -- will you assess your -- the way that you account for exploration costs, will you expense more rather than capitalize more going forward? Or is that just a sort of one-off ?

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#30

At this stage, we'll be sticking with the existing policy of capitalizing.

Operator

operator
#31

Your next question comes from Peter Ker with the Australian Financial Review.

Peter Ker

analyst
#32

Just returning to Nick Evans' question before about the labor situation in Pogo. And thanks for the color on the sort of number of Aussies who are going there. Thinking about what the government have said in the past month or so, they've talked about tightening the ability of Australians to travel overseas. They talked about people who come here. If you come here, you have to sort of state the one-way ticket, it's not about sort of coming here for a 3-week holiday and then heading back overseas. Are those -- is that sort of tightening that we've heard about in foreign travel in and out of Australia in the past month? Is that going to affect your ability to take Australian workers to Pogo? Or are you guys sort of on a different channel with that, and it's about skilled labor and so forth?

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#33

Yes. Good question, Peter. Look, it does impact us, and we're asking for our ability to move those kind of 5s and 10s numbers of people who are specialist Australian skills that we need in Alaska. The important thing is we fully appreciate what the government is doing, what state is achieving with regard to the COVID rules. And we're more than open to help in managing the movement of the people and the quarantining of those staff returning into the state, and we're in absolute compliance with all of those health recommendations. So it's -- we're not asking for special treatment. We're not asking for special exemptions, but we do need in a controlled fashion ability to move those skills. And we're not talking about pulling hundreds and thousands out of the state for labor. We're clearly talking about specialists that will help us expatriate those skills to our assets. And ultimately, the earnings come back and go to dividends into -- and capital into the overall business in Northern Star. So I think it's not about brain drain or capital drain from the state. We just need it going forward. We're working with the whole sector generally. It's a special skill that's required.

Peter Ker

analyst
#34

And could you just tell me what are the precise sort of skills that you're needing to take from Australia to Pogo? And what sort of swings are these people doing? I imagine they're not going to be doing 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off given the distance traveled. I imagine it's longer than that?

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#35

Look, you're right, often, we've asked them to do sort of 2 months on, 1 month off. Some of them have done extended rosters during the last year. Some of them haven't returned for 6 months. It is around the layering of that and moving people each month. And look, special skills, when I say, it might be talented development operators, jumbo operators that do our tunnel development and ground support regimes that are training North Americans with that method. It may also be technical engineers or geologists in doing some of those technical assessments or safety managers in transferring that. Now U.S. has those skills where we're imposing, I guess, Northern Star's culture and Northern Star's strategy in regard to that. So it's important for us and our business to be able to move that labor around.

Peter Ker

analyst
#36

And just finally, could I get your view on how WA given most of your assets are in WA and your headquarters there. How WA has handled COVID? It's obviously been the state in Australia with the most strict kind of border rules and so forth. Are you in the camp that feels like the approach WA has taken has been over the top? Or are you in the camp that 18 months into this thing, it looks like it was the best strategy of all the state's strategies.

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#37

Look, it's difficult to be critical on it. We've been very, very fortunate and we've been relatively undisturbed in our operating capacity. There's been some constraints. I think the resource sector has done very well in addressing the risk and managing that risk in Western Australia, and we've been fortunate to be able to continue to operate. It's one of the highest operational risks presently for the import of the COVID cases in the mining operation. So I think that's at the forefront of everybody's view. So I think WA has done well. The difficulty is when other states in the nation have the difficulty, and we feel for New South Wales, it's a challenge. And we've experienced that first down in Alaska. That's the U.S. story all over. So again, we're in a very fortunate position in Western Australia. I don't know how long we can maintain that lock border attitude as the growth moves on.

Operator

operator
#38

Your next question is a follow-up question from Nick Evans with The Australian.

Nick Evans

attendee
#39

Look, Newcrest, which is sort of marginally bigger than you guys on a production basis, has early this year sort of established their Toronto listing just to try and get a bit more liquidity in the U.S. markets and perhaps a bit more familiar with U.S. investors. Given that you guys have got U.S. operations as well, have you sort of thought about doing something similar in offshore listing, secondary listing in somewhere like Toronto or the U.S. exchange?

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#40

Thanks, Nick. Look, we probably don't want to increase the administrative burden of a dual listing. And so we believe that shareholders have access to us on the ASX. We have probably moved waiting from North American ownership to more domestic ownership in the last 12 months. But we feel that anyone that chooses to invest in Northern Star has ability to on the ASX, so there's no dual listing in the near term.

Operator

operator
#41

Your next question is another follow-up question from Daniel Morgan with Barrenjoey.

Daniel Morgan

analyst
#42

Just wanted to ask some question about how you're going to report going forward. I think you were talking about reporting under the 3 assets, which is Kalgoorlie, Yandal and Pogo. Can you just confirm that you have definitely layer on that and the reasoning behind it?

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#43

Yes, correct, Daniel. We'll do that. It's how the guidance is met. And if you think about it, the processing plant, where the feed comes from -- comes through that centralized processing plant to give you those production at the right cost. So what you'll see in the back of the quarterly will be the appendix pages that have the mining stacks per operation, so you can drill down into those. But the headline group's performance will be under the hubs of Kalgoorlie, Yandal and Pogo.

Operator

operator
#44

Your next question comes from Matthew Frydman with Goldman Sachs.

Matthew Frydman

analyst
#45

Just wanted to ask a quick one on the Kundana divestment, and it was probably one that we touched on briefly during the Strategy Day. But just wondering how much mill capacity that divestment liberates either NST-owned or third-party mill capacity? And whether you've had a chance to think in more detail around what the options are for that freight capacity? How does that change the material flows across Kalgoorlie?

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#46

Yes. Good question. It's about 1 million tonnes per annum. And presently, it's a bit of a legacy toll treatment assistance there for the next few months. And then ideally, I think you've seen the neighbor do mill expansion there to take that feed. So it's 1 million tonnes per annum, and it's whether we utilize the operational low-grade stockpiles or basically feed more from that south material through Kanowna Belle, and then put more Fimiston material through the Fimiston plant is ideally we will get to. So it simplifies that business, we're able to rotate that capital back into the organic growth and absolutely gives us milling capacity.

Matthew Frydman

analyst
#47

Okay. So potentially, those marginal tons could come from the district in the form of Mount Charlotte or other operations, which means that you can feed more through -- more KCGM stockpiles through the Fimiston mill?

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#48

Yes. So separate to the impairment on the marginal stockpile, we have low-grade stockpiles at KCGM of 2.9 million ounces in low-grade stockpiles at KCGM that will go through the Fimiston plant. What we've identified in an early trial is there is 3 milling Mount Charlotte material that doesn't have to go through the Fimiston flotation plant, that goes through Kanowna Belle. And that's what we'll track up in Kanowna Belle.

Operator

operator
#49

There are no further questions at this time.

Stuart Tonkin

executive
#50

Thanks, Zoe. Sorry to cut over here. Look, thanks very much, everybody, for being on the call. I think it's clear that we have emerged in this period of M&A with an exceptional asset base, which will drive strong organic growth. This will, in turn, underpin our strategy of achieving superior financial results as we continue to enhance our business first strategy. Thanks for joining us today, and have a great day.

Operator

operator
#51

That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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