Pricer AB (publ) (PRICB) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

July 16, 2026

OM SE Information Technology Electronic Equipment, Instruments and Components earnings 32 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Hjalmar Jernstrom

analyst
#1

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Pricer Second Quarter 2026 Investor Presentation here at the MB Carnegie. I'm joined today by Magnus Larsson, President and CEO; and Claes Wenthzel, CFO. Welcome. Thank you very much. A strong report today, so there's a lot to unpack, so I'll leave it to you right away.

Magnus Larsson

executive
#2

Excellent. Thanks a lot, Hjalmar. So thank you, everyone, for joining today's call. It's a very hot day in Stockholm today. Let's see if we manage to make the summer hit a little bit higher after this presentation of the second quarter. I'll leave it up to you. Our vision to be the preferred partner for in-store communication and digitalization. That's what we work with. That's what we speak to our customer about, and that's actually what has been helping us with or generating today's results. I will dive straight into the Q2 highlights. And for those of you that read the report, you could see that we have had really good commercial traction in the -- a few of our markets. Canada, very strong, but also good growth in the U.S. in Scandinavia, in the Pacific. I will come to it a little bit more in detail. But one of the things -- one of my takeaway, I did some digging into our archives, and I realize that this is the first quarter since 2024, where actually we demonstrate growth in both net sales and order intake. So to me, this is a very positive sign that we're moving in the right direction. Another very positive aspect of what we've done is that we can see that the net sales of Plaza, our SaaS solution grew with 35% quarter-on-quarter. And we added actually more than 500 stores in Q2, and we were actually doing much more than 500 stores in Q1 as well. So as you could see from the previous slide, and I'll flip through it very fast. We have added more than 1,000 stores only this half year. So it's been quite a success. From a financial point of view, we are zooming in on historically high pricing levels of gross margin. Our gross margin reached 28.1% compared to 19% in Q2 last year. So it's been a major growth. It's actually a major growth versus Q1 this year and Claes will speak a little bit more about the gross margin later on in the presentation. We continue to show strong cash flow. We have a net cash position. So we're not in debt. The adjusted EBIT margin at 7.1% versus minus 2.8% in Q2 last year. So all in all, a very strong financial performance. Another thing that I really want to speak about is innovation. We have spent a lot of time actually more time than money on innovation, where avenue and the way that we wanted to reshape ESL and the way you look at ESL as the first step. It's been a success. We have had the first commercial order of price revenue in the quarter. We have done independent AB testing that really shows the price or avenue generate shop retention, shopper interest and above all, it actually does increase sales when you do promotion. So all in all, it's a Q2 that we're extremely happy with. Of course, we see that there are always things that we want more of actually most of it. But at large, we're super happy with this report. We dip a little bit more into the order intake. We had a growth of 13%. We landed at SEK 568 million this quarter. We have a growing backlog. We have a positive book-to-bill, which means that we can see that the company is growing from an order point of view, from a backlog point of view. The performance in America, we had a lot of orders from Sobeys for the Phase II installations. We have also started to install, but we'll see there will be quite intense work during autumn. We received continuous orders for IBM Federal for the [indiscernible], so the [ Army ] stores. But we also started to receive orders from small but tangible increase in orders from new customers. It's with some of the announced partners that we have, like [indiscernible] but it's also some new ones. We have a small but new customer in Alaska, Alaska hardware. But we see more of this. And I think above all, we start to see a mindset change on the market. we start to have more discussions on future digitalization. We see customers making plans, setting budget and some also starting to invest. So -- and of course, after a year, where we've seen maybe not hybrid nation, but it's been very slow. And the -- after the tariff discussion after the start of the war in Iran, it's nice to have seen some positive movements on the market. So this is something we definitely see in the North American market. We have a continuous commercial traction also in Scandinavia. The -- more from partner-led sales to direct sales has been very good. We had good traction actually way better than last year but also better than compared to our own plans. So it's been very positive. We have had success on the field sales in Sweden. We have had success on key account management and above all we are working much closer now to the large retailers and large retail customers that we have on this market. Pacific market was really slow last year, but we now see a rebound. So we had good order intake and also invoicing on the Pacific market, and we see an increased interest both in Australia and in New Zealand. So at large is actually very positive development. And the order intake trend is now moving in the right direction, as you can see from the graph. So what else is happening retail industry insight and macro trends. So I wanted to focus on the one that's been highlighted market growth and strategy for strategic digitalization, but also tech transformation and personalization. And I will speak about Avenue, and I will speak about AI. The first one, so we did this AB testing. It was done by an independent third-party company called retail academics. This is what they do. They investigate behavior in stores that's really what they focus on. We were working across 3 U.K. stores. We had 23 unique brands. We had [ CopoVist ] England's own brand, but then we had quite a few well-known brand. [ Pringles ] is one of them and we had 66 different products. The real question was, what is the impact of price for Avenue versus the traditional ESLs when you do promotion. So in 2 stores with Avenue and in one store, we had our regular ESLs. And of course, we got full access to the sales data or retail academics, got it. But they also did interviews with shoppers. And it was in a level where you can say that the statistics is correct from a statistical point of view. And what is the result? Well, shopper identified promotions 43% faster with price revenue. And that's the entire idea. You make a promotion, you want people to see it. 90% of the people that were interviewed, they stated that the promotion and the setup wood Avenue actually increased their interest to purchase. Of course, the best part was that we can see tangible and statistically verified sales increases. So when we looked at all the 23 brands and the 66 products, we could see 2.2% sales increase. It doesn't sound like an awful much, does it. But the thing is if you're in this world, if you're actually selling what we call fast-moving consumer goods, depending on the assortment, depending on the product that you sell, an increase of 0.2% might actually be a fantastic result. If it's something else, it could be that you want 3% or 4%. But regardless, when we look at it this way, it is really good. It's something that we bring this to our retail customers. They will say, yes, thank you. This is what we want. But if we then say, if we took it from more like a general picture with a price or Avenue price, if we had an inspirational picture, this figure raised to 3.8%. And -- if we added the brand logo, like you can see here in the Pringles picture, it was almost 5% sales increase. These figures are something that our retail customers want. This will be an immense help when we go out and sell Avenue. We can tell them with Avenue, you get all the benefits from the traditional ESL, but we will also unlike anyone else in the market, help you with real sales uplift when you do campaigning. This has also led to a situation where we're now engaged to a different way than before with the fast-moving consumer goods companies because we have something that can help them sell more in the same store, same setup but just sell more. So this has been really good. And the fact that we now have the test done by an independent third party will also be extremely helpful. Something we've also been working a lot with is our own AI platform, I call it Pricer.AI or think people call it Pricer.AI. We've been working with AI since 2024. And more recently, our team has now spent a lot of time basically building our own tools and our own way of working. So you could say that we have an internal platform that is now custom built it, we built it, applied AI infrastructure. It's agnostic from an agent point of view, which means that we can work with Gemini or we can work with Anthropics in Colorado, we can work with pretty much any agent we want. So if we want capacity, we can actually use the agent that adds most capacity. If you want low cost, we can use that one. something that actually impressed me quite a lot is that we have built our own way of training the AI. It learns through self-protection, but it also adds to external multi-model data whatever that means. That actually means that we can train it with YouTube. There is a lot of clips from really skilled engineers, where we can actually take that and use that as a part of the process to train our AI -- and we now look at the projects on the software side that we've actually done since we started to implement this project or this Pricer.AI as full. We've seen that we now go up to more than 10x the capacity in development. So as the next step, what we're doing now is actually we take this platform. We will also use it on our internal processes to see how can we improve corporate functions. Same logic. We have same kind of interfaces, but the agents will use -- help us to be more efficient internally. And the next step is we have 60 million ESLs connected. How can we actually use that in a different way? How can we give more power to our customers to adopt the way they work with Pricer.AI? Here, one potential will be to see how can we use our platform to actually embed it in our tools and our products that we have customer facing. So that will be also part of the future set up. So we think with this platform that the team has built and they've done fantastic work, we have something price-specific that we can use to improve internally, but also that we can have to improve the customer experience and the way our products are being used. So I think you will hear more and see more about what we're going to do with Pricer.AI into the future. I think I'm done with the shameless selling. So Claes, will you take the facts?

Claes Wenthzel

executive
#3

Okay. Yes. So let's look at our P&L then. As you can see, our sales growth at 8.5%, but if we exclude the currency effect, it was close to 10%. This was 9.9%. What also is very impressive for this quarter is, of course, the very strong gross margin. And that is driven by 3 things. It's lower production cost. And it's also the customer mix and the product mix that is also strong increase in the [ Plaza ] sales. We also took a one-off cost of SEK 9 million in this quarter, which will sale on an annual basis, which start now in July, SEK 17 million per year. And adjusted for the one-off costs, we have an EBIT of SEK 34.5 million in the quarter. which is a margin of 7.1%. And then if you look at the cash flow, we continue to have a strong cash flow. As Magnus said, we have no net debt. We have SEK 336 million in cash, which is net cash of SEK [ 36 ] million. But we also have available unused revolver credit of SEK 150 million. So we have available cash for almost SEK 0.5 billion at the end of this quarter. As you also can see, the inventory has gone up with more than SEK 100 million in the first half of the year. And that is, of course, for the upcoming sales. We have a higher inventory level now than we normally should have. So we can expect inventory to go down during the rest of the year. And then if you look at the net sales and the gross profit development, the interesting figure, of course, a very strong increase in the rolling 12 months gross profit. And yes, in this quarter, it's up more than 10% compared to last quarter, rolling 12 months.

Magnus Larsson

executive
#4

All right. So let me summarize. Strong financial performance, good net sales, good order intake or at least it's growing. It depends on what you think is good. I think it's good. I'm happy. Increased gross margin. It's close to historical highs, and we are having net profitability. We've executed on the organizational changes that we spoke to in the Q1 report. It's of course, always hard when you do it in an organization like ourselves. It has a tangible impact, but also here, I have to say that colleagues have done it really well. And we have done our best, of course, to make sure it will be as painless as possible. But it's also, of course, adds to our ability to make profit into the future. So it's the right thing to do. Looking at the geopolitical situation, we start to see, as I mentioned before, that the sentiment press to slowly improve. And we can also say that in North America, customers are planning for new investments, they are starting to invest, and we are part of many of those discussions. Then something I guess wrote a little bit about in the CEO update, but I want to end with is that we need to continue and maintain our position as thought leaders we managed to establish something with Avenue that we get positive feedback on a regular basis on events, from customers, from suppliers. We see that also our competitors are trying to copy us. It's a position we need to maintain. So we have a few projects, new innovative solutions, and we make significant progress on these solutions. So it's something that we look forward to speaking more about later. But it's something that will keep us in the forefront of innovation, and that will maybe not cement our position but make it stronger as thought leaders. So that's pretty much it. We're ready for the Q&A.

Unknown Executive

executive
#5

All right. Perfect. Thank you. Very exciting finish there. I guess there's something we will come back to in the future.

Magnus Larsson

executive
#6

I hope so. Yes.

Unknown Executive

executive
#7

I figured. Let's start with the gross margin. We have some questions on the line regarding this, and I'm also curious because you mentioned, of course, this is the result of a lot of things working together. But if we look at the sales mix, you mentioned, of course, the product mix and then there's the market mix. Is it safe to say that all markets are pulling evenly? Or is this sort of expansion may be concentrated towards certain geographies? Can you give us some details on this maybe or --

Magnus Larsson

executive
#8

We can say that historically, there has been tougher competition, more price pressure on the European market and a little bit more maybe in the South and Central Europe than in Northern Europe and less so in North America. So yes, we can see a distinction, but there doesn't mean that there is no competition in North America. There is a lot of competition. but it's been historically on a different level. So yes, we can see that we have a higher contribution from North American customers, generally speaking, than from European customers.

Unknown Executive

executive
#9

And do you feel that this is in some way connected to your direct-to-market sales approach that you adopted across some geographies here in Europe as well? Or is it just a wider shift sort of in the pricing?

Magnus Larsson

executive
#10

We have been regardless of sales method, when we move from partner led to direct sales like in the Nordics, yes, we can see that it's been contributing to increasing our gross margins, both from a service delivery point of view, but also from a product price point of view. I think in many geographies, we've been actually quite good to maintain price and really use the pricing power that we have. We have a good solution. We have customers that want to continue and of course, you can never be too high in price. But we need to make sure that we are careful about really addressing the value we deliver and to maintain our prices. And I think that's -- you can see a lot of that in our general increase of margin as well.

Claes Wenthzel

executive
#11

One other aspect also is we have a better plan now. which means that we are taking more by boat compared to claim before and that has a huge impact on the margin as well.

Magnus Larsson

executive
#12

Which, of course, also affect the inventory.

Unknown Executive

executive
#13

Yes. Yes. Is that what you referred to when you mentioned production costs? Is that shipping or ...

Magnus Larsson

executive
#14

Yes, yes, that's a part of the production costs and our cost of goods sold. Yes. Yes. And it's actually on the production cost, we, of course, we have continuously -- we are continuously working with optimizing our cost of the products. We reduced the number of products that we have. So it's more effective. we look at the way we do the transportation, but it's also manufacturing cost, component cost. So it's a constant negotiation to make sure we have the right cost levels.

Unknown Executive

executive
#15

Yes. Okay. And of course, like you mentioned, the strong development in the price of [ Plaza ] contributed to this as well.

Magnus Larsson

executive
#16

Yes.

Unknown Executive

executive
#17

Yes. Do you see additional -- I mean, previously, you had a recurring sales target for the Plaza. Can you give us some -- maybe some soft values or what do you see for the type of potential for keep upselling the Plaza platform and the recurring revenue?

Magnus Larsson

executive
#18

I see good opportunities. We have worked a lot with Plaza. We actually have a number of larger customers that are still on an on-prem version, that are planning to move over to Plaza because they see the benefits. So the customers we have, they are really happy. And we are spending probably the same amount of money developing Plaza, but now we don't develop Plaza. We develop the add-on functionalities. Some of them will be to make sure we maintain that will maintain a really good base level. Some of them are functionality that we will charge for that we can see there's a clear value add, that will be a clear price for this functionality as well. So you can say we moved a lot of the development from maintaining the platform to actually building new functionality, which has also been fueled basically by the AI advancements that we have done.

Unknown Executive

executive
#19

All right. Perfect. Thank you so much. And if we move on then to the sales and the order intake, could you elaborate a bit on the Sobeys, the framework agreement that you have the latest one, at least -- was this strongly contributing to the order intake in this quarter? Did you started deliveries? I believe you mentioned sometime around May that you anticipate deliveries to start. Is this -- what this --

Magnus Larsson

executive
#20

It has all materialized.

Unknown Executive

executive
#21

It's materialized.

Magnus Larsson

executive
#22

So we can see that, yes, we have had a lot of order intake -- it's -- I mean, it's a big contributor, but we have started deployment in May according to plan. We see that we said that we will deliver over 6 quarters. we're trying to squeeze and it's actually so business they want to do it as soon as they can. So -- and it's actually together with Sobeys and our partners plan store by store. So we really try -- when we get an order now, we know it will be delivered fairly soon. So it's not unlike 2024 when got this very large order and it would be spread across basically 6 quarters or 4 quarters at that time. Now -- so now every single order we get is something we plan to deploy quite fast.

Unknown Executive

executive
#23

Yes. Okay. So quite a little bit different deliveries approach this time, which is something, I guess, to bear in mind here.

Magnus Larsson

executive
#24

And you can say also that the volumes will depend. So they have a lot of different formats. They have their own Sobeys format, but then there are a few others. And they are different sizes. So you can see that volumes might depend on actually which format they prioritize the deployment though.

Unknown Executive

executive
#25

And I believe maybe you addressed this, but also very interesting comments, maybe you could deep dive into it a bit further. You mentioned the that you're noticing activity or digitalization activity in the North American market. Could you describe maybe what you're referring to? Is it mainly among your existing collaborations? Is it also new customers running the valuation?

Magnus Larsson

executive
#26

It's both. And of course, from our point of view, we want to serve our existing customers. So we have -- with the large ones. We have very good dialogue and good discussions on what are the next steps, how do they want to transfer from what they have now until next generation of ESL Avenue. So we have new discussions with quite a few of the really large retail customers we have in North America. How can it be utilized to push their promotions and help them sell more. But then it's also new customers and, of course, new opportunities. And there is sales also to some of the partner agreements that we signed last year. But of course, it's exciting to see what's going to happen with the new opportunities. And of course, it's at the end, they are binary, but we can see that there are opportunities we can see that there are interest and that they actually plan to do the investments.

Unknown Executive

executive
#27

Yes I think one interesting partner that you work with in the region is the MDI and you referred to that earlier. Do you have any more sort of clarity regarding the scope of this deal or to be the potential --

Magnus Larsson

executive
#28

They have a huge number of stores. I can't recall the exact number right now, is their distributor of foods, but they also a distributor of IT services to their stores. So here, we are working together with them. We go through the events. We discuss when they make promotions. And of course, we reach out to the stores associated with MDI. So it's something typically with these kind of partnerships, you can see that you need to win the first stores and then you start to build traction and then you can see that the speed will just basically speed up and go faster and faster. So it's a combination of you need to bring the message out to the market. You need to show that there are first -- a few first movers, then there will be a lot of internal talking. So we have seen it with quite a few retail chains that can start slow and then it gains momentum.

Unknown Executive

executive
#29

All right. Perfect. And then we have some questions on the line as well. A lot of them are actually about the gross margin as well. So if you don't mind, maybe we jump back into that. Regarding the product mix, could you elaborate a bit on this? I mean maybe aside from the Plaza versus remainder of sales, if we disregard Plaza, for example, the remainder of the product mix, how does that impact the gross margin, maybe on a wider level and maybe specifically for Q2 as well. If you can give us some bit of information on this.

Magnus Larsson

executive
#30

What should we say, Claes? What would be your take?

Claes Wenthzel

executive
#31

The product mix is more -- we have fewer products, which means that it's easier for us to plan. And that also means that we have been able to reduce our cost to produce the products we have now compared to 1 year ago. So the production cost is done, and that is mainly a bigger part and maybe the mix between the products, if we exclude Plaza and then as I said, the freight has an impact here as well.

Magnus Larsson

executive
#32

So maybe it's actually more customer mix than product mix. You can see we have the positive contribution from Plaza, where also we've made -- we made changes to the software. So actually -- so we have less cloud cost with the new software. But then also, we have the nonrecurring services where we have a lot of installation services that's also contributing to the gross margin. It's a combination.

Unknown Executive

executive
#33

Yes, that's very clear. And then on the Avenue, there's a question on the line here whether you could give some additional details to potential orders here and maybe on the sort of like financial profile that you're expecting? Would this be dilutive to the margin? Or could it be even accretive? What is your best hope for the pricing of this?

Magnus Larsson

executive
#34

So my hope is, of course, that if we show that we can deliver additional value and now we showed it in the AB testing that we take part of it. So if anything, I would expect that we will make more money out of it. And I do not expect that we will do full stores with Avenue. But I see that Avenue will be a complement for what high-impact zones, [indiscernible] where you have prior for high gross margin or a product that you want to campaign or product where you have a very high churn. But where you see that this -- if we put it here and we increase the sales that we'll have a really good impact on the overall profitability and sales in the store. So I -- that's my expectation. I think this is also now opening a door for us to start new dialogues with companies like Pringles or Coca-Cola or LEGO. So when we do this campaign, as I mentioned, we had a number of brands that we were working together with. We are reaching out to them and say, okay, would you want to do this at a larger scale? How can we help you make more -- and many of these customers, the FMCG companies, the local teams have a relatively high degree of freedom to actually choose the way they do their local promotions. So I think this is an area where we will spend more and more time because we see that -- we believe that could be a very rapid way of getting avenue into stores. But then it's a new product. Retailers are quite conservative. So I'm sure that I'm an optimistic guy, I wanted to go fast, but it will probably not go as fast as I have in my mind, introducing new technology, even though it's great technology, typically takes some time. So -- but yes, I do expect it to contribute positively to margin. I expect it to contribute positively to the profitability of our customers and we should take part of that.

Unknown Executive

executive
#35

Yes. And considering the tests that you've been running and the results you've been getting now, what conclusions can we draw regarding the timing, the time line maybe looking forward towards a sort of wider scale product launch?

Magnus Larsson

executive
#36

I think so. I mean, from our point of view, now we have products we are selling, but it will probably take some time. So we shouldn't expect any volumes this year, but I'm carefully optimistic for next year.

Unknown Executive

executive
#37

Yes. And then we have a question regarding the plaza. Could you provide us maybe a little bit more on the sort of pricing that you have for this service. Is it sort of a subscription fee? What does the customer pay for and what is sort of driving the growth?

Magnus Larsson

executive
#38

So it's a pure subscription fee and the fee is basically based on several parameters, what is the size of your store, what is the functionality you want to be included. That's the base, and then we're working more on now the added functionality, which also will be then subscription-based, but then on top of what we have. So we see that with the installed base of 7,000 stores. we have a pretty good market to actually do upsells when further upsells.

Unknown Executive

executive
#39

Then we have a question on the inventory. Is it some sort of maybe inventory effect reflected in the gross margin that we see now in Q2, considering I guess, FX on purchase pricing. I guess what most of these questions boil down to is whether do you feel that the current level of gross margin is sustainable going forward maybe?

Claes Wenthzel

executive
#40

It's please what we've been sustainable. One quarter can be higher margins than the other quarter. But of course, we have significantly higher margin than we had last year, and that will continue.

Unknown Executive

executive
#41

All right. Super. And then I guess on the cost savings, of course, you have communicated the scope of these, and we saw the one-off here in the second quarter. Could we expect the full sort of run rate of these savings start now in the second half? Or is there sort of a ramp-up process towards?

Magnus Larsson

executive
#42

No, it's what we said. The savings on -- that is related to the one-off cost of SEK 9 million, that's going to be SEK 17 million on a year-on-year basis, that will have effect from the 1st of July because these people will not get any more salary, and we have taken the cost.

Unknown Executive

executive
#43

Yes. Okay. Super, that's very clear. Thank you so much. And I believe we have addressed most of the questions that we have on the line now. Yes, I believe that's everything for now. So I'll leave it to you for any concluding remarks..

Magnus Larsson

executive
#44

All right. Thank you for having us, Hjalmar. Thanks, everyone, for joining today's call. I certainly hope that we managed to increase the summer temperature a little bit with this presentation and the report. I look forward to our next presentation. And until then, I wish you a very pleasant summer. Bye.

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