Qualys, Inc. (QLYS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 14, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Patrick Colville
analystHello, everyone. I appreciate you joining us today. I am Patrick Colville, a senior analyst at DB, covering the cybersecurity and the infrastructure software space. The format of this session will be a fireside chat with listener Q&A. There's a chat box where you can ask questions. The questions are anonymous, and so we will not mention your name or your company affiliation. So let's kick it off with introductions. We have Joo Mi, the CFO of Qualys, here with us today. Qualys, as you know, is a SaaS pioneer and a leader in the vulnerability management space. Joo Mi, thank you for joining us.
Patrick Colville
analystSo given time constraints, I guess let's go straight into questions. So Joo Mi, it's pretty well understood that cybersecurity risks facing the enterprise are only increasing. How has the coronavirus pandemic affected that trend?
Joo Mi Kim
executiveYes. Happy to be joining. And the corona pandemic has affected us both negatively, and we also expect some tailwinds. With the majority of employees now working from home and companies continuing to struggle with the challenges of securing of the remote endpoints, while also ensuring employees are able to work productively from locations. We're expecting continued increase in cybersecurity risk, we definitely see some tailwinds in the long term. We feel very well positioned given the critical nature of what we sell like our solutions have become mission-critical to enterprises and believe this remote work environment will lead to enterprises naturally shifting to cloud-based solutions as the endpoint becomes a new parameter.
Patrick Colville
analystInteresting. Thank you so much for that. And I guess, I mean, bear in mind what you said. So how is Qualys' sales motion, I guess, deal sizes, closing rates, churn dynamics, these kind of metrics that investors follow closely, how have they been affected by COVID-19?
Joo Mi Kim
executiveYes. As a subscription business, we have good visibility with over 90% of our annual bookings coming from existing customers. COVID impact has mostly been on the new business and expansion with existing customers. We've been fortunate in that our renewal rates have remained healthy. In Q2, our bookings came in better than our expectations, which resulted in our revenues coming in above the high end of our guidance as well as EPS, and this will led to the increase in our full year annual revenue and EPS guidance as well. So we feel good about the health of our business.
Patrick Colville
analystInteresting. And I mean, this leads me on pretty well to I guess our next question because as you say, the business momentum has been pretty healthy. So I guess, can we take a step back and just talk about market dynamics in vulnerability management more broadly and how over the last couple of years, has Qualys differentiated its competitive positioning versus peers?
Joo Mi Kim
executiveSo in terms of the market, IDC has VM at approximately $3 billion market growing in low teens. We do expect some tailwinds from COVID on the industry, so there might be some acceleration in growth, but not material. Some permanent shift to a network environment and ever-expanding tactics, really has been putting VM at the top of the priority list for security risk management. We believe that we're uniquely positioned with a robust and scalable platform that's made it to the cloud, unlike our direct competitors like Rapid7 and Tenable. Our solutions are centrally managed, self updating and easy to deploy in addition to making it more cost effective, given the cloud delivery and the intuitive nature of our offerings. Earlier this year, back in early Q1, we introduced VMDR, vulnerability management, detection and response, which we believe is a real game changer. The single self-updating app leverages our Qualys cloud platform and cloud agent technology to deliver seamless vulnerability management that incorporate the 4 key elements of discovery, assessment, prioritization and patch management. It first enables customers to identify all known and unknown assets just like we always say, you can't secure what you don't know. Then it analyzes vulnerability, quickly focusing on what's most urgent, using advanced correlation and machine learning. After prioritizing the riskiest vulnerabilities on the most critical assets, it inoculates your assets, detecting available patches so that customers can remediate vulnerabilities and threats across any environment. By delivering all this in a single app workflow and centralized UI, VMDR automates the entire process and significantly accelerate an organization's ability to respond to threats, thus preventing possible exploitation. None of our competitors can provide so much functionality in a single integrated offering. And so it naturally makes us more immune to competition. In addition, we also introduced Multi-Vector EDR, currently in beta, which is also delivered using the same cloud agent technology. Their customers can use the same agent for a number of our solutions, including VMDR, patch management, EDR and later next year, for data against product offering. So this really differentiates us from the competition.
Patrick Colville
analystAwesome. Thank you so much, Joo Mi. I'd love to actually double-click on some of the points you make on VDA -- can't say it, VDMR, if possible. Just want to remind our audience that I want to make this as interactive as possible. So if you got any questions that you'd like me to pose on your behalf, anonymously, please use the chat box or e-mail me on patrick.colville, which is C-O-L-V-I-L-L-E at db.com, that's patrick.colvilledb.com, or use the chat box if you guys have any questions. So let's circle back to VDMR, if possible. I mean it's a fast steady product. So I guess, for me, the obvious question here is, is it a product that you think is applicable to the majority of our custom base? And are you expecting broad-based adoption over time? Or is it just a product for the very largest enterprises?
Joo Mi Kim
executiveGreat question. So VMDR applies across all our customer base, enterprise, SME and SMB. We're pleased with the strong adoption of VMDR with over 600 customers using the app, and 19% of our VM customers having renewed into VMDR in Q2 versus only 4% in Q1. We expect adoption to continue to trend higher over the coming quarters. Overall, the revenue impact from VMDR adoption has been broadly neutral in the first half due to the mix of customers to renewed into VMDR. For example, we expected there to be some uplift from VM-only customers given that they're getting so much more with VMDR. On the other hand, those customers who had purchased multiple apps separately could end up spending a little bit less with VMDR. We spent a considerable time internally discussing how to price VMDR, decided prices this way given the pricing pressure from our direct competitors as well as our industry-leading margins, giving us the flexibility and pricing. In the longer term, we believe that VMDR will lead to accelerated growth because it truly differentiates us from competitors, makes it very easy for customers to expand on to endpoints, as well as take on additional paid solutions like patch management and drive increase in dollar retention rate.
Patrick Colville
analystGot it. So just to paraphrase that back. So you're expecting, over time, this is a product that is applicable to basically all customers. And in terms of spending, if a customer is a VM customer without many of the other products, then the spending uplift could be pretty significant. If the customer already has most products, then it could lead to a small downtick. I mean I don't want to put you on the spot, but is there a way that you could quantify that? Or is it too early to tell?
Joo Mi Kim
executiveIt's a little too early to tell, and it's difficult to quantify, given the pricing curve. But one point that I'd like to point out is we've disclosed previously that our enterprise customers with a single solution may be spending on average $40,000 to $50,000 per year with us. Now if they end up like subscribing to multiple of our solutions, that spend multiplied by 4 to 5x. So that gives you kind of a sense of what the up-sell potential is in addition to some cross-sell potential that we're seeing in the market?
Patrick Colville
analystOkay. That's very helpful. I mean I'd love to switch gear to probably the elephant in the room really right now is public cloud, the cloud adoption. And we've all seen that cloud has been -- proved to be an excellent delivery model for remote working. And so I wouldn't be surprised if -- or we expect really cloud adoption to kind of accelerate from here. You've got integrations with AWS, Azure and GCP. And in particular, if I'm not mistaken, a very close relationship with Microsoft Azure. So can you talk about like partnership and how it's ramping?
Joo Mi Kim
executiveYes. We see the cloud service providers as an important distribution channel. We're very excited about the partnership with Microsoft, whereby our solutions will be embedded into Azure, which is really a testament to our technology leadership. Microsoft is embedding Qualys VM into Azure security center and container security into Azure container registry. These applications are available to Azure security center standard edition or a virtual machine into customers using Azure security centers, advanced threat protection for Azure Kubernetes Service for no additional fee. We're very excited to see the opportunity to partner with Microsoft to sell our other solutions and have developed similar relationships with other CSPs.
Patrick Colville
analystSorry, I was just talking to myself on mute. So I guess, I mean, can we just take a step back quickly and just talk over how Qualys' position in public cloud is different from on-premises environment. So if you're selling to a company that is -- was founded 5, 10 years ago and it's 100% cloud, how Qualys' position is different in that company versus a company that's been around for a lot longer and has this kind of mixed state?
Joo Mi Kim
executiveYes. So what we do is we're actually positioned very well on both fronts because if you talk about, we actually sell to customers directly. We're actually using the cloud plat providers such as Azure and Microsoft in addition to kind of work having a direct relationship or partnership with the CSP. So in that case, we might -- if the customer comes directly to us to subscribe to Qualys and sign up as our direct customers, we can definitely service them using our Qualys product offerings. In addition to, if they were to go to straight to Azure, you'll see that they'll be benefiting from Qualys having directly embedded into their Azure security centers.
Patrick Colville
analystOkay. That's helpful. I mean I'd love to switch gear, just to, I guess, the go to market. For me, someone who's been following Qualys for a long time. I think the biggest change has been the breadth of products that Qualys now offer versus 5 years ago, say? And so my question is, how is the go-to-market model changing as a result of the broadening product portfolio? And probably within that question, I like to have multiple questions in one, how is -- what would -- what's in the business is now kind of non-VM?
Joo Mi Kim
executiveYes. So we've always had a multi-pronged strategy for go to market, and that hasn't changed. Since we were founded in 1999, we really thought of ourselves as a cloud security platform versus just the VM-only solutions provider. And so since then, we've developed new product offerings, expanded our portfolio and have really approached the sales front, using our direct sales, which is split between farmers and hunters. We also have our sales force that are focused on enterprise versus SME and SMB. Our sales philosophy has always been customer-focused, customer-centric. Our sales force is highly technical, so they're able to assist customers in understanding what they really need to scope out the subscription, which has resulted in our strong retention rate. And about 60% of our sales come from our direct sales force and 40% from partnerships. We have established and maintained healthy partnerships with channel partners, and this will continue. And obviously, with the launch of VMDR and EDR, it's our main priority to ensure that not only our direct sales force, but our partners really understand the value proposition of our new product offering so that we can effectively position Qualys as a leading provider of not only VM, but cloud security solution. I want to see, our platform is our distribution channel. We've always said this, where we have a cloud delivery model, which helps with the lead gen and enables prospects to try and buy it before subscribing to our solutions. Very easy to deploy. And so that has led to the natural new customer acquisition in addition to expand. [indiscernible]
Patrick Colville
analystSorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you?
Joo Mi Kim
executiveOh, no. The point that I wanted to address was the percentage of our customers have VM. And so we disclosed this metric annually. And as of last year, we had less than 3/4 of our customers with VM. And so even those customers or the customers that we have are underpenetrated, especially at the endpoints, with approximately [ 33% ] of customers with cloud agent subscription.
Patrick Colville
analystOkay. Yes, that's very helpful. And then the -- another kind of new product areas, the SIM space. And Philippe's been talking about SIM for a number of years. And the product is now live, and it's very interesting. What's the --- it's a competitive market, SIM, what's the strategy for winning in SIM at Qualys? And I guess how you guys differentiate yourselves versus others, it would be very helpful to understand.
Joo Mi Kim
executiveYes. Endpoint, the trading market is very attractive. It's $8 billion market. And given our IOC application, it was just a natural expansion. Since IOC already provides enhanced attack detection, investigation and response. And with Multi-Vector EDR, we're moving into remediation. Our Multi-Vector EDR solution goes well beyond the endpoint and not only allows for the reduction of false positives, but also makes it easier to automate the response and greatly reduce the response time and cost. And what really differentiates us is that given our VM heritage, we're able to bring a lot more content and telemetry across networks, servers, cloud and endpoint. This is a huge market opportunity that makes sense for us, given that we already have seen a lot of data come through, our existing applications will also provide connectors to ingest data from third-party applications.
Patrick Colville
analystOkay. That's very helpful. We're starting to run out of time. So just -- I guess, I think one of the things that is very topical and I get a lot of questions on is, we're nearing the end of September when a lot of the free trials that Qualys gave near the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic start to run out. And so what is, call it a strategy, in the coming weeks and months to convert those free trial customers to pay versions?
Joo Mi Kim
executiveYes. We have seen strong customer reception for our remote endpoint protection service, which we offered at onset of COVID to really help out the community. This delivers intimate visibility of remote computers as well as our installed application, a real-time view of all critical vulnerabilities and misconfiguration and then remotely deploy missing patches for critical vulnerability. As of Q2, we had over 650 companies, including nearly 300 customer prospects actively using this free offering. We'll look to convert customers to touch management and EDR applications, which should start next quarter, but more so next year when our customers have more budget flexibility. In terms of onboarding them, we actually have a separate team in Pune, who's been helping them to really understand the value proposition and use our product offering effectively so that we don't miss out on this opportunity, and those accounts have been transferred over to our sales force to follow up.
Patrick Colville
analystOkay. That was helpful. And I guess you guys are in a pretty strong position because Qualys is probably one of the most profitable companies in the SaaS cohort. So that's always a nice position to be in. So I guess, following on from what you just said, is now the time for Qualys to be investing in sales and marketing and product development to capture that cloud trend, to capture those free trials ending. And so how should we think about investments and the company's margin profile?
Joo Mi Kim
executiveYes. So we're very proud of the fact that we have a highly profitable operational model that allows us to continue to further invest while still maintaining strong margins. We had planned to really embed increase our expense like investment in sales and marketing, especially this year before COVID, but obviously, there has been some temporarily halt. And so we see that as probably more or less a 1-year delay in the investment. But we do expect to invest in sales and marketing as well as R&D and operations. But keep in mind that we'll -- we still plan to benefit from our cost platform model, providing leverage in sales and marketing, and our investment in Pune will continue to drive savings and cost of revenue and R&D.
Patrick Colville
analystYes. And the R&D side, it's interesting that the move that Qualys has done by shifting all of R&D to Pune is kind of fascinating and something that we haven't -- well, I personally haven't seen a ton before in the software world. And I would presume many investors on the call is kind of new to them. So how have you found that process of moving R&D to Pune? And where can it go? What should we expect from here? Is it something that you guys can basically move all the R&D to Pune? Or give us any context you can.
Joo Mi Kim
executiveYes. We have no plan to completely move it offshore, but we do plan to continue to grow our large base of talent in Pune, with today, approximately 80% of R&D is located there. We're able to do that because unlike many companies that use India for back office, we really consider it front office. So we're able to successfully attract and retain great talent. As you know, Sumedh, our Chief Product Officer and our President is from that area. So that has certainly helped, then traveling to that location often and with our focus on engineering effort in Pune. Our Pune operations gives us significant cost leverage. If all of our R&D in 2019 have been in the U.S., our R&D spend as a percentage of revenue would have increased from 17% to over 40%. So it will continue to be the leverage that we have. But with that said, it's not that we intentionally hire talent there, we typically look for great talent everywhere, including U.S.
Patrick Colville
analystOkay. That's helpful. I guess your point being, if I can paraphrase it back is, you look for talent whether you could find it and if it ends up in Pune, then that's the way it is. And that -- you've been finding a lot of success by having the R&D based over there, if I understood that correctly. And the other thing to discuss before we wrap up is probably the M&A strategy in terms of the whole capital allocation. So any context you give us there. Historically, Qualys has been known for doing small technical bolt-on acquisitions. Is that still the approach? Has COVID or cloud adoption changed things? Any context if you can give us as CFO on the M&A strategy would be extremely helpful?
Joo Mi Kim
executiveI'm happy to. We've always been actively exploring M&A opportunities, mainly focused on technology and people. We need to be able to integrate all acquisitions into the platform and remain very disciplined in valuation. As an example, in Q2, we acquired Spell Security, which is an early stage cybersecurity startup based in India with approximately 10 employees. This acquisition strengthened our security and threat research and then advanced endpoint behavior detection capabilities at the right valuation with a purchase price of $1.5 million. In addition to M&A, we've actually been using share buyback program to deploy our excess cash. In Q1, we announced another $100 million to the buyback program, and we purchased slightly over $50 million worth of shares in the first half of this year and plan to continue to deploy this cash to offset equity dilution from employee grants.
Patrick Colville
analystPerfect. Well, unfortunately, that stuff is out of time. So I really appreciate Joo Mi talk us through Qualys' product development strategy, talk us through the capital allocation strategy and talking us through the new product launches. So it's been a real pleasure talking to you. Keep up the good work. And thank you so much for joining us today at the DB Tech conference.
Joo Mi Kim
executiveThank you.
Patrick Colville
analystCheers. Have a great rest of the day. Bye-bye.
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