REGENXBIO Inc. (RGNX) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 15, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Matthew Harrison
analystGreat. Good morning, everybody. Thanks for joining us for the next session. I'm Matthew Harrison, one of the biotech analysts here at Morgan Stanley. Quickly, before we get started with REGENX, I just need to read a brief disclaimer. Please note that this webcast is for Morgan Stanley's clients and appropriate Morgan Stanley employees only. This webcast is not for members of the press. If you're a member of the press, please disconnect and reach out separately. For important disclosures, please see the Morgan Stanley research disclosure website at morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. If you have any questions, please reach out to Morgan Stanley sales representatives. So with that, very pleased to have the team from REGENXBIO with me, Ken Mills, the CEO; and Steve Pakola, who is the CMO. And I guess I thought we should probably just get started with wet AMD and what you're doing there. Maybe a good place to start is you're obviously looking at multiple delivery mechanisms now. So maybe just talk a little bit about the data that you have and the suprachoroidal study that you're starting.
Kenneth Mills
executiveYes. Thanks, Matthew, and thanks to you and the team from Morgan Stanley for hosting us in this unusual time, but we're excited to engage with everyone virtually. I'll let Steve talk to some of the data, but maybe just to give a high-level perspective. Later this year, we'll be starting the first of REGENX's pivotal studies as a program to advance our RGX-314 candidate for wet AMD towards potential registration. And that's a really exciting opportunity and time for us. We're building on many years of clinical execution and data with, I think, a real high-quality candidate that has shown itself to be not only safe, but durably and consistently demonstrate clinical benefit in patients with advanced severe wet AMD. We've studied RGX-314 at 5 dose levels in over 42 patients. Several of our cohorts have had over 10 patients. We've been able to, therefore, adopt a lot of understanding from the clinical work that's gone on. All of the patients that have been enrolled and received RGX-314 have been followed up for over a year. And many of the patients we've followed for over 2 years. So we really feel like we have a tremendous amount of momentum with understanding the pharmacology, the durability and the safety of RGX-314. The pivotal trial will involve our subretinal route of administration. I think we're -- by now all of us in the community are familiar with the subretinal route of administration. It's the basis of one of the few important gene therapy approvals with AAV technology and Spark Therapeutics, LUXTURNA, now marketed by Roche and Novartis worldwide. That route of administration, I think, is unequivocally established from a safety and efficacy perspective to be literally the standard for delivery of AAV gene therapy to the retina. That's why many years ago, we chose it for a starting point for treating wet AMD with RGX-314. What's become part of our understanding and appreciation as we've looked to achieve growth with RGX-314 over time is that we can go even further. Having established safety, having seen durability of a gene therapy in a wet AMD population, we think we can take it even further than what the subretinal route of administration may offer, which we think is a phenomenal opportunity. And to do that, we needed a few things. We needed to be able to get into other parts of the clinical care delivery system, including out of the operating room and into the offices of some of these treating physicians. The other thing we needed to do is we needed to address one aspect of the profile of subretinal administration, which is the effect of formation -- the potential formation of cataracts in patients who receive the vitrectomy upfront before the administration of RGX-314 subretinal. And while that, for our target product profile, was not something that we felt important to addressing wet AMD patients because the majority of them based on age, severity of disease or other factors have already had their lens replaced, so they're not candidates even for developing cataracts. There are other indications for RGX-314, including in diabetics, who will suffer complications from their diabetes that involve vision loss and blindness, where that side effect profile would be something that we would look to change or improve upon. And so that brings us to our suprachoroidal route of administration, which we're also excited about and I'll let Steve talk more about that. In terms of subretinal, Steve, maybe you can summarize the clinical trial data to date at a high level and talk about what we can expect from our sort of pivotal stage of development with subretinal.
Stephen Pakola
executivePerfect. Thanks, Ken. And as you highlighted, the reason we're able to move into pivotal stage clinical development later this year for the subretinal route of administration is because of the data that has been maturing over time. And it's really based on the early reads that we were getting across different cohorts that at the beginning of the year, we realized that we had the opportunity to do this with long-term follow-up data and that we were, in effect, really meeting our target product profile for subretinal delivery for treatment of wet AMD. So specifically, what have we seen? Well, as Ken alluded to, both in terms of 2-year data that we have for Cohort 3 and at least 1 year data for Cohorts 4 and 5, across that range of doses, the top 3 doses, we've seen greater than a 60% reduction in anti-VEGF treatment burden compared to the prior treatment burden that these chronic very anti-VEGF needy patients had before entry into the study. And importantly, with that reduced treatment burden, these patients were maintaining or improving visual acuity and retinal thickness. And not surprisingly, since we were seeing those clinical outcomes, we also have shown good durability of actual protein expression. So we've really hit on all of the key parameters that we wanted to hit on in terms of not just proof of concept, but even at a magnitude and a duration that was needed to go into pivotal development with confidence. So that's why we're very excited to move into pivotal development. We're glad that we have a range of doses where we've met and seen what we wanted to see. So we're in the process of dotting our Is, crossing our Ts. Ken mentioned learning a lot from the trial. We've learned not only a lot about the doses that we have potential with to move forward, but also about the inclusion/exclusion criteria, certain enrichment approaches that we can take to go forward here to even further derisk and enrich for achieving clinical outcome that we want to achieve for these patients in need of sustained treatment options. So we're excited about that, but we're also excited about the potential to expand into a non-OR, office-based treatment option with suprachoroidal. This has actually been a big month for us in, really, the field of gene therapy and retina therapeutic approaches in general, as we announced last week, the first patient ever treated with gene therapy via the suprachoroidal route of administration. And this was a milestone reached based on a lot of work over the last couple of years, predominantly around the advance where we've seen with AAV8 and also AAV9, by the way, that in preclinical studies, both large and small animal models, that unlike first-generation AAV vectors, we have not seen inflammation with suprachoroidal delivery of AAV8 and AAV9. And perhaps in part because of that, we've also seen very good transduction and good broad transduction of the retina with suprachoroidal delivery, including with specifically RGX-314. So it's based on that, that we've been able to reach this milestone. We look forward to, as we've guided to before, having interim results from this first study, AAV8, which is suprachoroidal delivery of RGX-314 for treatment of wet AMD. Since we only just started dosing, we're not going to have a long-term data, but at least a few months on the patients that we've enrolled by that time, which will be very important in terms of looking at safety and tolerability and some of the early months in terms of some of the other endpoints that we've looked at before. One of the benefits of the subretinal program is that we've learned a lot from that in terms of the dose range that we can apply to this study. So instead of revisiting or trying to explore the entire dose range, we decided to be more efficient and actually start off with the highest dose that we used, DL5, dose level 5, in the subretinal study, start with that dose in our ascending cohort design for our suprachoroidal study for wet AMD. And we're also excited that we'll be starting another suprachoroidal RGX-314 study for treatment of diabetic retinopathy. And this is an area, as Ken alluded to, where an office-based approach where you potentially don't have inflammation, that really opens up the door to potentially treating diabetic retinopathy before the patients develop the sight-threatening complications because otherwise, these are exactly the patients that are at risk of going blind from sight-threatening complications but aren't getting signed up for current therapies because of the unsustainability of repeat injections of anti-VEGF therapies. So a lot going on and a lot to look forward to in terms of both the subretinal program as well as the suprachoroidal program.
Matthew Harrison
analystOkay, great. Thanks for that in-depth overview. I guess 2 things on suprachoroidal that would be helpful to clarify. One, the doses that you're using there, I mean, should we think of these as 1:1 translation in terms of the dose? Obviously, it's a different part of the eye. So how should we think about the relative dose and what you can achieve with that? And then secondly, any key safety issues that you might be focused on with suprachoroidal that you're looking out for?
Stephen Pakola
executiveYes, both great and relevant questions. One, we'd like to have a quantitative 1:1. Can you bridge in that way? We don't really look at it that way. I think we have a healthy caution to realize that it is a different route of administration. But we have been comforted by what we've seen in our bridging work where at these doses, we're seeing good transduction of the retina. The part that makes it hard to do any kind of 1:1 or have any kind of fudge factor is just the qualitative differences of subretinal delivery where you have more focal, high expression versus a broader spread that you get with suprachoroidal. So the balance of area of transduction relative to intensity of transduction is really something why you have to do the clinical study to see what we'll see in terms of protein expression and also what we'll see in terms of the hard outcome measures that we're able to measure, fortunately, in -- already in first-in-human studies, like we've shown in the Phase I/Phase II study. In terms of safety, we're certainly comforted by the fact that we haven't seen inflammation preclinically. But again, here's the case -- until we actually show that in the clinic, this is a case where, to echo what Ken said, subretinal is the gold standard, in part because of not only local administration, which is true also for suprachoroidal, but also because of the immune-privileged status that exists there. So in our subretinal program, for example, we don't need to worry about AAV8-neutralizing antibody status in contradistinction to intravitreal administration approaches. And we've shown that already in our Phase I/II study where, independent of whether patients had neutralizing antibody status -- neutralizing antibody titers, they did very well from a safety and efficacy standpoint in that study. So those are 2 aspects that we still need to confirm in the clinic. Can we show lack of inflammation? Based on the preclinical data, we're going into these 2 studies without any prophylactic steroids before or after RGX-314. So we're going to really get to evaluate that aspect. In terms of the neutralizing antibody status, we are excluding patients who have high titers of AAV8. Neutralizing antibodies in our suprachoroidal studies initially until we've gotten our feet wet, so to speak, with this new route of administration and evaluated safety and tolerability and efficacy in initial cohorts before we move in that direction. So those are the areas that we're focused on.
Matthew Harrison
analystOkay. Great. That's very helpful. And then maybe just on the pivotal study for the subretinal delivery. I guess, 2 things people are very focused on. What's the -- or how do you think about rescue injections? And what sort of criteria you're going to set there? And then secondly, just broad thoughts on potential size and scope of that study.
Stephen Pakola
executiveYes. You'll recall from the Phase I/II study, we had a very low bar for retreatment in that study where there didn't even need to be an increase in retinal fluid at all. Even just residual fluid investigators could reinject given that, that was the first-in-human study before we'd shown a proof of concept. Now that we have the clear clinical outcomes that we've seen from that trial, now that we're moving into pivotal development, we're going to have a higher bar and a more standard bar. So we haven't disclosed details, but if you look around at other precedents of what's out there, it will be in line with those where we have quantitative thresholds in terms of increased retinal thickness and/or decreased visual acuity, for example. But certainly, the fact that we were able to see a dramatic reduction in treatment burden, even when the bar for retreatment was low helps give us confidence that directionally, by using a higher bar for retreatment, that we'll be in a good position in that regard. In terms of the size of the study, again, we'll be giving details on that later in the year. But just roughly, if you look around and you consider the outcome measure, best corrected visual acuity, an approach that we've talked about before that's out there of a noninferiority design to an anti-VEGF standard of care approach, that makes a lot of sense in this case. And that if we could show in a pivotal study that we're noninferior to very strict standard treatment, then that translates into actually being better than what's actually going on in the real world since patients are not getting anything close to that very strict, frequent anti-VEGF injections. And based on that, we're talking in the hundreds, not thousand kind of patients. And again, we'll have more details on that when we announce later in the year.
Matthew Harrison
analystOkay. Perfect. Probably a good time to talk about manufacturing, where you are in terms of scale up, what sort of investments you've made in manufacturing and what sort of capacity you have there.
Kenneth Mills
executiveYes. I mean the development of our team and our capabilities on the CMC side has been really fantastic. Our initial focus was to really bring in a group that had experience in the development and commercialization of biologic products with focuses on quality and scale and get them familiar with the processes that existed behind AAV. Although we did have the benefit of locally being able to access people who had experience in the development of processes and scale of vaccines. And then there are a lot of similarities there, especially when you move to larger scale, as you would expect. Where we are today is we continue to really champion the use of vermilion cell-based systems. And literally, every single one of our programs has now moved into suspension-based bioreactor work. And so even if we had started some of our early clinical development, like with 314 several years ago with more of an adherent-based approach, we've already outlined the processes for ourselves and with regulators for bridging all of that. All of the new studies that we will be starting will initiate with a plan to move to bioreactor either with first patients or through some bridging process. We're building a facility a few hundred yards from where I'm sitting right now here in Rockville that will house up to capacity for 2,000 liters. So we view that we have everything now in place from about 200 liters up to 1,000. We'll be able to flex that facility up to 2,000 liters. So we're really sort of running with everything in place right now to support all of the early, mid- and late-stage clinical development as well as early commercialization plans that we have. And with that, our supply chain largely focused on CMOs that we've been working with for several years, who have supported us with their facilities and their CapEx, but we've been putting our teams in place in their plan, training them on our process, in our SOPs. Literally, Matthew, we back close to 1,000 in terms of release of batches and quality of batches to support the diversity of our clinical pipeline. And we continue to feel that, that's a real strength of the company, adding our own sort of CapEx infrastructure, which will be part of our new office lab and headquarter facility coming online in 2021 just bolsters the quality of the team and the process and the infrastructure that we already have.
Matthew Harrison
analystOkay. Great. Maybe a good time to transition to some of the neurology programs that you're working on. Maybe start with the MPS as you obviously have 2 programs in MPS I and II. I guess what sort of update should we expect for the remainder of this year on those programs? And how are you thinking about progressing them into pivotal studies?
Kenneth Mills
executiveYes. We've been really encouraged about the progress we've made in the last year in the neurocog and neurodegenerative part of our pipeline. This has been, again, I think, a sort of leadership role we've taken in pioneering a new route of administration, intracisternal, putting AAV directly into the CSF, getting really broad distribution to address what we think is going to be a platform for a whole range of diseases. We started with MPS diseases because they're well understood from a natural history perspective. They have great unmet need, especially the neurological conditions in these boys in MPS II and the kids in MPS I need these enzymes replaced in their brains, in their spinal cords. They don't get that from the IV-routed administration of existing treatments that have been available to them. And so they continue to decline and ultimately die from the conditions associated with that part of the disease. We've reported data in now 6 patients enrolled that we're seeing good safety profile in our MPS II study across 2 doses. In the first dose cohort, we've reported out to a year and over in some of the kids that have been treated. Those boys are showing really good changes in measures of biochemistry in terms of what's going on in their brain. They've also shown evidence of improvements and changes in the trajectory expected for their neurological development and their condition reported to us by our clinical investigators, people who see these types of patients and these families and have for years. And importantly, we've established really good, long-term safety and durability of gene expression associated with those first dosings. We've also seen early evidence in the higher dose cohort of continued improvement, and what I would say resembles dose response, like we've seen in other of our clinical programs like in RGX-314, which is always really encouraging. Where we're going next is continuing to follow these boys now out over a year, out over many months for some of the dose Cohort 2 level patients. We'll be coming forward with more biochemistry data. We'll be coming forward with more clinical data on all the patients and more safety data. And a real focus for us and I think a theme for us is how do we take that knowledge and understanding and accelerate with a couple of priorities. We want to take what we've seen and what's been encouraging and find a path to get this to patients as quickly as possible. I think that's a mantra that we share with the patients and families who still have this significant unmet need. We know to do that, we're going to need to enroll more boys on treatment as a starting point. It's not going to be 3 patients per cohort that are going to be able to support the evidence that we want and need for these patients and families. So we'll be talking about how we're going to be accelerating enrollment onto RGX-31 -- sorry, 121 as quickly as possible as well as bringing the longer-term data out from all of the boys that have already been put on drug and how all of that is going to sort of coalesce into a plan that we're putting together now to sort of project the mileposts that we view are going to be needed to take this in sort of a form that can be registered with the FDA and other authorities.
Matthew Harrison
analystAnd I know you're not there yet, but maybe can you just briefly talk about what you think the key regulatory components are going to be, given that there's multiple -- or I guess what I'm trying to say is the neurological component of the disease, it takes a while to measure. And so how the regulator wants you to look at that endpoint, I assume, is going to be a point of discussion.
Kenneth Mills
executiveYes. I mean that is one point of the discussion, the contribution of the biochemistry that we can measure, both the enzyme levels as well as the changes in biomarkers that are associated with change in pathology as well as change in clinical phenotype. Important elements of these are the patient-reported outcomes and sort of evidence of changes in behavior and psychology, things that can always be measured from scheduled sort of regular intervals of assessment of boys. So I think those are the conversations that we've been having with the community, including regulators, since some of the first data has been emerging. It's hard to predict and say precisely what is the blend and the balance in a sort of algorithmic form of the contributions of all of those things. But all of those things are acknowledged by the regulators as important contributions. And we're measuring all of those in ways that we'll be able to sort of establish what is the right algorithm to support the evidence that we see for approval. One of the things that I really like about our program is it started with a sort of real broad perspective about collecting a lot of different information and data about these boys, certainly safety, gene expression, gene transduction, biochemical changes, enzyme expression, neurocog, behavior, psychology and other outcomes that are also equally important to patients and families. We'll be able to sort of synthesize that into what I think is a really thoughtful and innovative composite package that I think regulators and families of these boys will really support.
Matthew Harrison
analystOkay. Good. I guess maybe in the last 2 minutes, we should just touch on the underlying licensing business a little bit, talk about what you're seeing there. And just your views on your IP and how you're thinking about longevity of that IP.
Kenneth Mills
executiveSure. I mean I think our pipeline internally is a primary focus. But obviously, historically, we've had great success in a lot of great partnerships through licensing the IP, in particular, with AAV8 and AAV9. ZOLGENSMA, of course, is a great example of licensed approved product where we're receiving royalty revenues as well as milestones, including a potential milestone on cumulative $1 billion in sales of a gene therapy product, which I think we view can occur in the next quarter or 2 based on the launch trajectory so far of ZOLGENSMA. The IP continues to be incredibly strong. We have done licenses with large companies who are responsible to themselves and their shareholders for doing important IP diligence. We have licenses with groups like, of course, Novartis, but also including Takeda and Bayer, for example, who are using the technology. We have licenses, of course, with partners who have been acquired by large companies. And this IP goes out for many years depending on the sort of capsid technology that we're focused on with the potential, and I think this is an important point of emphasis, for it to be extended based on approvable or approval milestones like we're pursuing around ZOLGENSMA or will be pursued with other potential future products. And at the same time, while we've, I think, had a lot of success in partnering and licensing, there does continue to be a part of the spectrum that seems like it's a little bit confused or resistant to taking license and maybe communicating that they're using underlying technology that derives from REGENX that may be powering some of their clinical-stage assets or even preclinical stage. Our goal and objective is to get as much as possible and reasonable under license for our stakeholders and shareholders. And to the extent, though, that people continue to have an opinion that they don't need to take licenses or won't take licenses, we've stated publicly, and I'll say it here again, there's going to be action that will be taken, particularly for those products that emerged as they're getting closer to commercialization or commercial activities are starting to occur around them. It's been an important part of the history of REGENX, continues to be an important value component for my view for shareholders and stakeholders. And it's important, I think, for our industry to acknowledge that while it's great to sort of share innovation and importantly, we've done so with all the licensing that we've done, it's not okay to have a double standard about it within the field, and to be able to acknowledge IP and support IP is an incredibly important undertone and view that I have about how this field has been successful and will continue to be successful.
Matthew Harrison
analystGreat. Ken, Steve, thanks very much for the time this morning. Appreciate it, and hope to see you guys in person sometime soon.
Kenneth Mills
executiveLikewise. Be well and safe, Matthew, and everyone.
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