Eurazeo SE (RF) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

July 23, 2026

ENXTPA FR Financials Financial Services earnings 61 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Welcome to the Eurazeo 2026 Half Year Results Presentation. Today's conference will be hosted by William Kadouch-Chassaing, Co-CEO; and Christophe Baviere, Co-CEO. [Operator Instructions] Now I will hand the conference over to the speaker. Please go ahead.

William Kadouch-Chassaing

executive
#2

Thank you very much. Good morning. Thank you for joining this call. Christophe and I are pleased to welcome you to our 2026 half year results presentation. Our presentation will be in 3 parts. First, I will share with you the financial highlights for H1. Second, Christophe will focus on fundraising, commercial dynamic and asset rotation. Third and last, I will detail our financial results. We'll then be available to take questions. We published a good set of results for the first year -- for the first half of 2026, showing further progress in the execution of our strategic plan. Let me share the key highlights for H1. First, asset management posted another semester of solid growth. Fundraising stands at EUR 2.3 billion with some notable closings in fee and debt, confirming the attractiveness of our franchises to clients. We continue to demonstrate our ability to scale our flagship strategies. Christophe will come back to this in a moment. And as a result, we continue to grow our earnings with management fees from third parties up 14%, EBITDA growth of 20% and strong growth in operating cash flows as we grow our third-party fees and performance fees start to materialize more meaningfully. Second, our balance sheet return has announced positive value creation in H1 with a growth of plus 2.3% per share. Realizations continue to be on plan with a good pipeline of exits expected for the rest of 2026, allowing us to reshape the business model as per our strategic plan. Third and last, we are on track to deliver the announced EUR 2.3 billion in shareholder return by the end of 2027. We have already returned EUR 1.3 billion since the beginning of 2024. In 2026, we have already distributed a dividend per share increasing by 10% and executed half of the share buyback program for the year.

Christophe Baviere

executive
#3

Thank you, William. Let's now dig into details. And as you know, the development of an asset management platform starts with good fundraising. Eurazeo raised EUR 2.3 billion from clients in H1 2026, ahead of last year's already strong performance. This is, I would say, particularly encouraging given a challenging environment for fundraising. No doubt, this success highlights the quality of Eurazeo's franchises as well as the relevance of Eurazeo's positioning as a European mid-market growth and impact focused investment firm. Our strategy is to be the go-to investment firm for this deep and growing investment universe of mid-market companies all over Europe. We have had several marquee successes in H1 with, in particular, the final close of EPD VII in direct lending, the final close of ESF V in secondaries, the first close of PME V in buyout and successes also in thematic funds such as Kurma Biofund IV and ESMI II. And Wealth Solutions, Wealth Solutions channel continues to deliver despite a more competitive and challenging market backdrop. One of the keys to Eurazeo's success in the development of its asset management platform is its ability to scale existing flagship franchises. Let me take you through a clear example of how this works, look at direct lending, this side of our more recent program, EPD VII increased by 70% at EUR 5.5 billion, driven by its leadership position and strong performance of the strategy focused on the lower mid market. Look at secondaries. Our fifth program more than doubled at EUR 2.3 billion with growth both on the institutional flagship fund and in wealth and mandate solutions. Note that these 2 programs, for these 2 programs, demand has exceeded their cap, which is quite unique in current market conditions for fundraising. Look at the lower mid-market buyout segment. Eurazeo is currently raising it's fifth vintage, PME V and we have good traction among investors, thanks to the strong performance of the previous vintages. The first closing of the fifth vintage has already exceeded the final closing of the fourth vintage with, I would say, plenty of room to grow further. In our strategic road map, William and I outlined our ambition to further expand our client franchise through the internationalization of the LP base. As in recent years, we have extended our coverage in Europe, in the Middle East and in Asia. And the results are there around 70% of our inflows are now coming from outside of France. And a growing share of this fundraising is coming from outside of Europe with repeated successes all around Asia as we are signing new clients in China, in Korea and in Japan. Our Wealth Solutions franchises also continues to grow at a steady pace with now EUR 6 billion of AUM, a 17% CAGR for the past 5 years. Yes, our flagship evergreen fund, EPVE 3, surpassed EUR 3.7 billion in AUM, thanks to the positive inflows. But in parallel, we are actively working with our partners to distribute our new international evergreen funds all over Europe for the rest of the year. For the rest of the year, Eurazeo will pursue on its fundraising on the back of a solid and diversified pipeline, both on the institutional side as well as on the Wealth segment. As you can see, our funds are at different stages in their fundraising. We continue to raise on our flagship, Eurazeo Growth IV and PME V. And we have mainly thematic fund on the road like EPBF, ESMI II, future industries III, EZORE and ETIF II. Let me now turn to deployments and realization. Eurazeo deployments amounted to EUR 1.9 billion in H1, down 17% for the same period of last year with transaction reflecting and expanding pan-European investment approach. Main deals including Denmark EPBF. Eurazeo's [indiscernible] acquired T1A, a leading electronic recycling firm. In Germany, Eurazeo's PME V bought Nextron, a leading cybersecurity software firm. And in France, through capital, Eurazeo invested in Netco, a conveyor belt maintenance business. And in the infrastructure, we financed Lauralu, achieving deployable infrastructures. Eurazeo is well placed to continue to grasp opportunities with EUR 8.3 billion of firepower, out of which EUR 6.6 billion are third-party money. Realization, realization stood at EUR 700 million. Eurazeo has had several exits, notably with Fermax and Ex Nihilo, a buyout, Memo Therapeutics in biotech. We maintain [indiscernible] legal place in venture and several exits in secondaries. Regarding H2 2026, we are making at a solid pipeline of exit across strategies. I now hand over to William, who will get you through our results.

William Kadouch-Chassaing

executive
#4

Thank you, Christophe. I will now take you through the financial results for H1 indeed. Let me start with the asset management activity. Overall, as you can see on the chart, AUM growth and fee paying AUM growth illustrates the dynamism of our asset management business. Total assets under management, we're up 9% in H1 relative to the year past, surpassing EUR 40 billion with third-party AUM up a strong 13%, which is above market. Fee paying AUM were up 6% at EUR 29.4 billion with third-party fee-paying AUM growing also a strong 13%. Management fees stood at EUR 213 million in H1, up 6% from previous year on a comparable basis. Third-party management fees were up 14% with strong performance of private markets up 18% and a better performance of iM Global Partner at plus 2% like-for-like. The growth of IMG was driven by positive net inflows, particularly in active ETF. Balance sheet management fees were down 14% as we voluntarily limit our new commitments in our fund and execute our exit plan. Of note, our private market fee rate remained stable at over 120 basis points. With a steady growth of our third-party assets and fees and the managed downsizing of our balance sheet, we are well on track to reduce the weight of our balance sheet in the funds below 20% faster than initially planned. You may remember, we had announced that target back in November '23 in our Capital Markets Day. At the end of 2023, our balance sheet represented 31% of our total AUM. AUM from the balance sheet now represent only 22% of total AUM. Likewise, management fee from the balance sheet represented around 31% end of 2023 and are now down to 23% in H1 2026. Logically, the combination of growth in third party management fees, strict cost discipline and a more meaningful contribution of performance fees leads to a jump in the cash flow of our asset management business. This is how the model works. As you can see, fee-related earnings are up 11% in H1 with further margin improvement. EBITDA is up 20%, reaching EUR 100 million. Finally, operating free cash flow from the asset management activity reached EUR 54 million, up 75% from a year before. So in a nutshell, the contribution of the asset management activity, excluding financial costs and other income is up plus 38% in H1 on a like-for-like basis. As mentioned, we continue to be very disciplined on costs with OpEx up [ 3% ] only year-on-year. Financing costs at iMGP are down significantly, especially in H1 '25 as H1 '25 figures were impacted by negative ForEx impact. It also reflects the reduction of the indebtedness at IMG. Let me now turn to the investment company. As announced, we returned to a slight positive value creation in H1 2026 at 0.3% organically or plus EUR 20 million. Buyout, we posted plus 0.2% in value creation. We continue to have positive earnings momentum in our portfolio companies. We, however, remain disciplined on multiples given the context in some sectors, notably in SaaS and Business Services. Growth equities posted a positive value creation of 1%, driven by further progress in our new vintage, EGF IV. In real assets, we enjoy a good momentum in infrastructure and in operational real estate. We adjusted down some specific valuations in direct real estate to reflect multiples and cap rates. On a per share basis, our portfolio is up 3.3% to EUR 105.4 per share in H1. Our share buyback program thus added plus 2% on the portfolio value in H1. So let me come back to the fundamentals behind this performance. As said, overall H1 2026 was another illustration of the quality of the underlying assets in spite of a mixed macro environment with some headwinds in Q2 from the Iran war. First in buyout, which represents 57% of the total value of the portfolio. You can see revenues and EBITDA were up, respectively, 4% and 7%. Going into details, April and May were slower, arguably, but we have been seeing green shoots in June and July. Second, companies in our growth portfolio, which represents 22% of portfolio value, posted an aggregated revenue growth of 22% with our largest companies outperforming. The EGF IV portfolio continues to perform strongly above plus 50% revenue growth. Third, in our real asset portfolio, which accounts for 14% of Eurazeo portfolio value, EBITDA in the hospitality business was up 6%, while infrastructure continues to perform very well. You will find in the appendices of the presentation, and we will do that regularly, further details on the balance sheet performance and components and in line with our deep dive of April -- sorry, April 29. Turning now to the investment company P&L. As mentioned, we returned positive value creation in H1 on the portfolio at plus EUR 20 million. IMG had a positive impact on the fair value of a partner, in particular with the sale of its stake in RBA. Combined with lower internal fees, cost discipline and lower financial expenses, [indiscernible] contribution improved by nearly EUR 300 million compared to H1 2025 to reach minus EUR 69 million. Turning now to the group P&L, with a stronger contribution from asset management activity and an improvement in the investment activity, net result group share improved by EUR 300 million to be close to 0. Let us finish with portfolio rotation and capital distribution. We announced and realized around EUR 300 million in exits pertaining to the balance sheet during H1 2026, corresponding to 4.3% of last year's NAV. We have a good pipeline of exits for H2, as said by Christophe, with some promising processes already underway. This should put us on the path to towards our of historical average in realization. During H1, we continue to prove our ability to sell assets with an uplift above NAV. We realized the exit of 2 buyout companies early in H1 at more than 2.5x cash on cash each and together with an uplift of 150% on our last mark. We sold the portfolio of Spanish hotels at NAV. And our Kurma franchise, our biotech function, sold the company with 150% minimum uplift with further upside depending on the achievement of certain milestones. Let me stress again that for us, this is the best proof point to assess the quality of our portfolio valuation approach and processes. As I mentioned at the beginning of the presentation, we continue to deliver on our capital return promise. Since our Capital Markets Day, we distributed EUR 1.3 billion through [ EUR 600 million, EUR 700 million ] in ordinary dividends and EUR 700 million in share buyback. We already acquired 14% of our own shares through H1 2026. Looking ahead, we plan to continue to increase our ordinary dividend and to buy another 11% of our own shares by the end of '27, maximizing our legal limits. Depending on the price at which we will do the share buybacks, we will consider adding extraordinary dividends to complement our distribution to shareholders to reach our targets. So in a nutshell, we had a strong set of results in H1 '26. We continue to grow fast our asset management and to transform our business model. Our balance sheet is back to positive value creation, and we continue to deliver on shareholder return. We believe this momentum should drive a re-rating of our stock. And as a reminder, let me just come back to how, with Christophe and team, we see Eurazeo's fundamental value drivers. We are first a fast-growing asset manager, profitable and cash generative. Based on undemanding multiples, it should be worth up to EUR 40 per share. We have a balance sheet portfolio net of carry, tax and debt that is worth EUR 105 per share rounded, and we have a net debt that should be deducted of EUR 21 per share. Hence, our calculations brings us to this total value between EUR 115 and EUR 125, giving significant upside for the current share price that is for you to judge. Thank you for your attention. We can now open to the Q&A session.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Nicolas Vaysselier from BNP Paribas.

Nicolas Vaysselier

analyst
#6

The first one, I want to check a bit extraordinary dividend potential. On my tracking, assuming the share price, you would be at about EUR 1.1 billion of share buyback since 2024 at the end of '27. The CMD had highlighted the target of EUR 1.5 billion. Would do you say that the extraordinary dividend could be as high as EUR 400 million to make for the gap? Then secondly, exit activity has been muted in H1 on the balance sheet side. You expect an acceleration in H2. I wanted to know if you view the current pipeline as enough to deliver the 20% asset disposal pace that you're trying to aim every year. And thirdly, you also flagged potential for improving investment returns in H2. However, I've noticed that the growth figures you are quoting in the press release when it comes to EBITDA growth and revenue growth in buyout seem to be slowing a bit versus prior reporting period. So what makes you confident that returns can accelerate? Is it that do you expect market -- I mean, the multiple to start increasing, reflecting strong markets you're seeing right now? Or do you think the macro environment improved from here?

William Kadouch-Chassaing

executive
#7

Thank you, Nicolas. So I'll take these 3 questions. First, on the distribution, what we say here is that we're committed to the portion on the dividend, ordinary dividend, I think we have a track record of increasing it by 10% or above in the past years. I won't commit, of course, for next year. This is a Board and general assembly decision, but expect that we will continue to strive growing the dividend per share. Then we are committed to execute the 25%, the [ equitization ] of the company through the share buyback and the combination of shares. We've already completed a significant portion of it. When you look at the math, I mean, clearly, there is a factor which needs to be taken into consideration, which is the average price at which we buy shares. So what we are saying here, effectively, I think your understanding is correct is that conceptually, we will compensate the shortfall in euro amount for the share buyback with other means, i.e., dividends. Exit activity, and I hope it's clear. If it's not, please reiterate your question. But again, 2.3% and 25%, the equitization of the key commitments we take. Exit activity. I think it's very much, as we have said, I mean, arguably, the environment is not good. And I think everyone would tell you that. We've been able to sell what we had in mind to sell in H1, and we've launched a number of processes for H2. So yes, we are confident that we will continue to execute on our exit plan and converge towards the historical average. I mean, I think we have now established a track record of being able to rotate assets faster than market, which translates into DPI, by the way, in the funds, which are almost in every category in [indiscernible] range. So we'll see how it goes. But we reiterate we have a rather good pipeline for second half. Investment return on the investment company, let me be a bit more specific. I don't think we've said we see an increase in H2. We said from 2026 onwards, we see a gradual improvement in value creation after the adjustments we had to do in the past 2 years, partly because some companies we have to write down, partly because we have to factor in the new elements in the market, the AI impact on SaaS multiples and some companies more impacted by some macro events. Now we said we have a strong portfolio that continue to perform really. So we're going into a gradual improvement rather than a marked improvement. And this is how you see that. So we are resuming with value creation in other words, and we see the pattern has been more or less dynamic, depending upon the multiple environment. Fundamentally on the buyout company's performance, there is a very good element into it, which is that it is very broad-based companies across the board, including, by the way, in SaaS, do perform well. There are a few companies which had more difficulties and now have been marked down quite significantly. So this should be an issue for the future. So that's how you can see the dynamic on the earnings. In other words, I'm trying to say that we are not betting on multiples. We continue to mark up assets, primary, I should say, even solely on the earnings growth.

Operator

operator
#8

The next question comes from Oliver Carruthers from Goldman Sachs.

Oliver Carruthers

analyst
#9

I just have one follow-up question from your final point. Did I just hear you correctly on this returning to positive value creation. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it sounds like on the buyout side, this is a broad-based, I guess, flat to up dynamic in the first half. So it's not being driven by uplift from a couple of big assets, it's broad-based. And it sounds like the language you're using is that we're kind of at the end of this multiyear multiple adjustment period, which would be a bit of an inflection point. But I just wanted to check if I understood that correctly. And then sorry, the second question, just on the acceleration in realizations that you're -- in terms of strong pipeline for the second half. Could you just comment on the types of exit processes that we should be looking out for just to understand the sensitivity to the market dynamics.

William Kadouch-Chassaing

executive
#10

Maybe you comment on the pipeline, which is going to be a short answer probably. But on the value creation, let us be very cautious there. Yes, I think we take the word of inflection point because there were a few companies we have adjusted. Remember the 29th of April presentation where together with the team, we really showed where we had made some adjustments and there were a few companies that are now have been put to 0. That was the bulk of the adjustments. By the way, some of these companies can recover value a bit in the future because some of them have better trends, but that's not taken into account as of yet. And then we said we also have taken into consideration some multiple compression in some areas, but mainly software. And then we have said at the time, by the way, that we have not started adjusting these multiples just beginning of '26, but there was a story already starting in '25 for us. Looking forward, the reason why I'm cautious is because we live in a very uncertain environment, you can see that we have an improvement, as I said, in the pattern of growth, both revenues and EBITDA in buyouts in June and July. After reasonably slower Q2 because of what you know. We'll see how it goes for the rest of the year. So inflection point, yes. But that's going to be a gradual improvement in '26, even what I've just said. But the good thing is we are able to sell always with an uplift to the last NAV, and we continue to have a broad-based difference to good performance on the underlying metrics. On realizations, Christophe will take the question.

Christophe Baviere

executive
#11

On realization, yes, you are right to point out that the EUR 700 million is a 6-month picture. It doesn't reflect our goal for the 12 months of 2026. As we said previously, we are aiming for our historical yearly realization over the course of the plan, and we have no bad news on this because we have a quite healthy pipeline of exit candidates, and several monetization processes are being initiated. We are using the full range of what can be used. We are obviously working on some plan [indiscernible] exit, but we also use dividend recap. And we can use, in some cases, continuation vehicles of tools like that to reach the 2026 targets. But as you know, we cannot comment on any specific transaction. But again, we continue to aim for historical average levels, and we will reach 15% to 20% of our previous year's NAV rotation.

Operator

operator
#12

The next question comes from Arnaud Palliez from CIC CIB.

Arnaud Palliez

analyst
#13

I have two questions. The eleven is on real assets that are a bit lagging behind in terms of fundraising, value creation. So I would like to know what is for you the outlook for these real assets. That's the first question. And the second one is more general question. Following rising inflation and interest rates, do you see any change in the outlook for your investment policy? So that's the two questions.

William Kadouch-Chassaing

executive
#14

On real assets, we answer together with Christophe. Just starting with the value creation. As you can see, the underlying metrics, we didn't give the number because it is on a small base. So it's double digit on infra increase in revenues and hospitality, which is a bulk of what we have in real estate, I mean, has a growth of plus 6%, as you can see. So I'd say the value drivers are pretty good, but we are in a real estate market that remains difficult overall. It's improving, let's say, stabilizing. So it's not the time where you really take on more value on assets. And we have adjusted a few nonoperational assets in the portfolio. I mean, which has translated to this slight value [indiscernible] in real assets in the first half. So [indiscernible], I mean the trend is clearly operational, the operational trend is improving. On your comment on fundraising, maybe Christophe?

Christophe Baviere

executive
#15

Yes, yes. Well, as you know, on fundraising, it's based on -- we need the fund to raise, and there has not been funds that were opened. But with [indiscernible], which is indicated to infrastructure is now almost fully invested. And yes, we are preparing the next vintage. I remind you that [indiscernible] targeting EUR 500 million, and we've reached EUR 750 million, which is quite a good result for something that was a first time fund. It was not the first time investing [indiscernible], but it was for Eurazeo, the first time fund in infrastructure. So we have, during the phase of this fundraising, we have conducted a large number of LPs that were a little bit cautious on the first [ time, ] and we will benefit for the fundraising of the second vintage from this work that has been completed when we did 3 years ago, 4 and 3 years ago, and we already have a solid robust pipeline of not only European investors, but also investors that have seen the proof of concept of [ Fund I. ] I remind you that we have in infrastructure quite a differentiated approach, what we do is energy transition infrastructure. It fits with the DNA of Eurazeo, which is to be a main market player with probably north of EUR 750 million for the second vintage. We will still be a new market player in infrastructure. So this is the core of what we do. But again, what we perceive is that this mid-market investment [indiscernible], Europe is deepening, and we see a lot of appetite for very differentiated investment strategies in the infrastructure world.

William Kadouch-Chassaing

executive
#16

Now on your point on the investor strategy, as we have highlighted many times with Christophe ever since the Capital Market Day, we do consider that our investment approach, the type of focus we have regionally size of companies and sectors. The value creation playbook, which is a transformational valuation playbook aiming at increasing earnings as opposed to optimizing financial structures. And that's well suited to exactly the world you described, world where the investment rate, the interest rates are sustainably higher for longer. And so as you can -- we will continue to give you data points, but fundamentally take a view that at least 2/3 of the value creation of the companies we invest into across the board stem from earnings, more rarely from deleveraging, sometimes increase in multiples because at the onset, given that there are small companies in the -- you tend to have a calibration, a discount to the reference multiples. And so that we think is the right approach. The mid-market Europe, first operational and focus on 5 sectors, which are financial services, health care, business services, tech environmental solutions, which are driven by structural shift in the global economies and societies. I mean that's the way we address from an investment case standpoint, the approach to that environment. You see because we put that back in the appendices, the type of leverage we have when we do a buyout or real estate. And you can see that we are pretty conservative on that. So there is clearly an increase in the cost of debt in the deals. I wouldn't say we are not sensitive. We are obviously sensitive to it, but to a limited extent, given what I just said.

Operator

operator
#17

The next question comes from Nicolas Vaysselier from BNP Paribas.

Nicolas Vaysselier

analyst
#18

Sorry for coming back. I just had a very technical question on the extraordinary general dividend. In terms of timing, would you wait until the end of 2027, i.e., announcing it in 2028? Or is this something we can expect for next year?

William Kadouch-Chassaing

executive
#19

Mechanically, Nicolas, and don't be sorry to come back. We like when we have questions. Mechanically, we will wait until we know what is the average price at which we would have executed a significant portion of the share buyback program before we decide the calibration of potential extraordinary dividend. This would be here to compensate for the shortfall in euro amount. Again, the commitment is [ 2.3 ] on the one hand and 25% the equitization on the other hand. So I mean, we have to -- now when does it happen? When do we think we have enough visibility? Probably not before second half of '27.

Nicolas Vaysselier

analyst
#20

Okay. So yes, payment should probably be '28 then?

William Kadouch-Chassaing

executive
#21

I won't comment on that because obviously, there are few things which are not in our hands. But what I want to comment on with Christophe is the direction of [ travel, ] I think, I hope, is clear.

Operator

operator
#22

The next question comes from Alexandre Gerard from CIC.

Alexandre Gérard

analyst
#23

Four quick questions. The first one is related to private equity and to fundraising, which was weaker than last year. Can you help us maybe better understand that performance? And how does this performance compared to the market as a whole? Second question, that's related to the net financial debt of the group, which stands at EUR 1.4 billion. At the end of the plan by the end of 2027, do you expect that net financial debt to be back to 0, where it was when you announced the plan in November of 2023? Or can you help us in understanding where you see the debt of the group. The third question is more or less related to the -- to that good set of results, which is related to AI. And do you think that AI might help you maybe continuing to increase your operating profitability, which has already progressed rather well? And my fourth question is related to M&A. Are you seeing [indiscernible] M&A opportunity, the market continues to consolidate? So if we could have an update on that front.

William Kadouch-Chassaing

executive
#24

We start with fundraising and [ PME.]

Christophe Baviere

executive
#25

Thank you, Alexandre, for your question. And yes, the fact that private equity fundraising was weaker during 6 months is mainly due to the fact that the product offering for private equity was, during this month, is less important than the product offering that was mainly occupied by private debt. But in the second half of this year, we will have, again, the tail end of the PME V. And we are working right now on several potential opportunities to raise money in private equity, mainly through co-investment. You know that fundraising can be organized through the fundraising of flagships, but you can also use co-investment and continuation vehicles to attract new categories of LPs, the sovereign funds, the very large, most experienced pension funds in the world. They want to get access not only to good flagships, but also to direct investment opportunity. So this phenomenon was purely typical during the first half of the year. And again, we have completed the first closing, the first closing is always difficult, takes time to realize. But now that the first closing of PME V has been completed and quite at a good level, we will accelerate on this.

William Kadouch-Chassaing

executive
#26

Net financial debt, I mean we are operating at a moderate gearing, and that's the intention of the group on a mid- to long-term basis. Let me remind you that we got an external ratings from 2 rating agencies now, i.e., Fitch and S&P. It's well into the BBB category. That's based on the cash flow pattern of our asset management is improving, and it's also based on our sustainably low gearing between 15 and 20 plus, depending upon the period in time in the year. So that's what we intend to have. We intend to have a modest gearing over time. Trend-wise, it goes to 0, but it's not necessarily a good policy to have it at 0. AI, that's a broad topic that obviously all our teams on the investment side, but I'd say also as an asset manager, our team in different transversal functions already focused on. I'd say that for the companies we invest into, what the major focus is -- on is more to see if the revenue model is disrupted by or if the revenues can benefit from an early adoption of AI, particularly agentic AI that is extremely relevant for growth teams, which invest a lot into agentic AI type of companies and even are able to rotate them in less than 1 year as [indiscernible], for example, in growth. But it is true, of course, for all our buyout companies that are more software oriented. On top, of course, everyone is asking, including us what we can do operationally to be more efficient, and we have identified a few areas. On the M&A, Christophe, I guess we're going to do the same as usual. I think with Christophe, we've told you many times we think we can grow this company organically at a pace that is above market, and this is what we do. We said we can transform the business model efficiently through that growth and the rotation and combined with distribution to shareholders, and that's what we do. And we said we are not blind. We also see that the market is a market where there is more concentration on fewer players. This is the age of platforms. We think -- Christophe has reminded you of it that we can have a potential place that is natural for Eurazeo, which is being the leading cross-asset platform in European markets. In that context, could M&A help us, wise M&A to go faster? Potentially, yes. So on top of what we do every day and we also assess potential opportunities. As you can see, so far, we've been mainly focused on the organic growth.

Christophe Baviere

executive
#27

And then I would say in the past, just to complete what -- we have said in the past, yes, it is true that Eurazeo has been able to successfully integrate some acquisition. What Eurazeo [indiscernible] today has been in the past mostly private equity and it has been a successful integration and part of what we do today, in private debt and secondaries comes from the acquisition of [indiscernible]. So I think that yes, we have demonstrated that should an opportunity occur, we will be able not only to acquire it, but also to successfully integrate. But as William was mentioning, the core of our strategy today is to be attractive, and we want to be attractive should we have an opportunity. We want to be selected also by these people to be a place where we can accelerate.

Operator

operator
#28

The next question comes from Julian Dobrovolschi from ABN AMRO-ODDO BHF.

Julian Dobrovolschi

analyst
#29

This is Julian from ABN-ODDO. I have two questions, please. One on the value creation and the other one on the exits in the balance sheet portfolio. So beginning on value creation, I think over the last few years, value the creation was held back by several legacy assets in valuation and resets as also flagged today. I'm just wondering, are still -- are there still any material assets in the portfolio where you see downside risk carrying value over the next quarters? And the other one is on the exits. Appreciating your comments on the H2 exit outlook. The point is to understand the exit seasonality you expect in 2026. And you mentioned in the con call today that the realized value of the portfolio in H1 was pretty much on plan, and we expect realizations to be on plan again in the second half. But also that would imply about 2x acceleration over the H1 level. So I was actually wondering why there should be such a seasonality in the exits? And is the slow pace in H1 driven by your decision to wait for better pricing? Or do you see any buyers still pushing back on the valuation expectations that you have?

William Kadouch-Chassaing

executive
#30

Okay. Let's start with value creation. And I hope you won't take it the wrong way, but let me just reiterate that at any point in time when we do valuation, we factor in everything we know. There is no case where we would hold on markdown -- marking down should we know already that the company should be worth less than what we published it is worth. So just pointing the obvious. But your question is nevertheless very legitimate. Do we see -- where do we see the risk? So we are very comfortable with the valuation we have. It doesn't mean that there couldn't be risk as they are, by the way, opportunities. If I start with the opportunities. What we see is, for example, is that the software companies continue to have a very good performance. So we don't see the disruption in our numbers that everyone talks about. When the market and we see that the market start to realize that it's been too sanguine on the valuation of SaaS companies. Maybe there is an upside here in the multiples, let's see. By definition, we're a bit cautious on the environment because of the Iran war, and that has created some dysfunctionalities in the macro that we've seen in Q2 trends improving June, July. We'll see how it goes. So I think the risk amount of macro risk and specific risk on some companies that we would know are in danger of losing value. By definition in the portfolio, you have some standard deviation in the performance, but it's rather macro upside and downside. On the exit, I do the same answer, as Christophe has just done on the private equity fundraising. We have a number of assets that are disposed of every year pertaining to the balance sheet that is not a big number, right? We're talking about 6, 7, sometimes up to 8. So you can't say the seasonality that you can forecast based on statistical evidence, it the same for fundraising, as Christophe said. You may be on the road with 2 debt flagship and 1 real asset flagship and no PE, but that doesn't mean that you [indiscernible] fundraising just because you don't have a product on the slate at the time. So this is what basically explains the pattern of our exits. We knew when we did the comments in the frame of our full year results that the processes that have launched -- have been launched end of 2025 would yield a certain amount in H1 whilst other processes, maybe more numerous processes or bigger processes would be launched rather throughout Q2 this year, and that's how we confirm what I've just said to this. But again, seasonality doesn't make much sense to us given the relatively small numbers of items we're talking about here.

Pierre Bernardin

executive
#31

I think we have no further questions on the phone. We have 3 more minutes. So I would like to take 2 questions from the script. There are actually two on the fundraising. One is more about the potential for this year and maybe beginning of next year after the successful close of ESF V, EPD VII and the [indiscernible] PME IV, is it reasonable to assume that fundraising for the next 12 months will be substantially lower than the previous 12 months? There's also a mention of EGV, which has done a first closing. And we're wondering what's next for this one. So that's, I would say, the first question. And I'm thinking the second one as well is a question on the evergreen wealth funds. Why do you not seem to be experiencing the same performance and redemption issues at other platforms and what is the growth potential for the evergreen family?

Christophe Baviere

executive
#32

Thank you very much. So as you know, we don't give guidance for the full year at this moment of the year, but we will be more precise during our Q3 trading update. But no, it wouldn't be reasonable to be pessimistic on the fundraising of Eurazeo. Yes, the environment is what it is. And yes, some investors are slower than before to make their decision. But again, we have a robust and diversified pipeline. It's based on flagships. It's also based on thematic fund, and we have plenty of room to continue to deploy, to diversify to expand our LP base. So we don't give guidance, but we have -- we are reasonably optimistic at this moment of the year, given the fact again that our fundraising will be based on flagship, thematic funds, [indiscernible] co-investment mandates, wealth solutions and internationalization. And if we move now to the evergreen issue, and which has been without any doubt something volatile during the first half of this year. Let us remind you that our reporting vehicles at Eurazeo are quite specific. First of all, they are both through unit-linked life insurance contract at 73%, it is held through unit-linked life insurance contract. Unit-linked life insurance contracts are a very stable component of savings. [ EEC III ] is the French product. So it is a French legal structure. So it is subscribed through French life insurance contract and also in the Benelux. But it is mainly used by finance users that are very stable in their behavior in their savings. That's the first answer to your question. The second answer to your question is the fact that we have currently 20% of cash in this vehicle. We have always managed this vehicle. And the past performance that were in average close to 7% have always been realized with this very generous proportion of cash. We don't want to avoid the issue regarding the increase of redemption of usage of [ debt. ] And we have currently, if you look at the first half of this year, the percentage of redemption in percentage per quarter is at 1.6%, which is still much lower than the inflows. The inflows that we received are more than the double of the quite stable of flows that we naturally face. And for the first half of this year, the performance is already at 3.5%. So we are back to the historical performance that we have been able to achieve, which is close to a quite stable and robust 7% per year. And yes, we are very optimistic that the evergreen vehicle at Eurazeo are a very stable component of our business activities.

Pierre Bernardin

executive
#33

Thank you, Christophe. We have two other questions. But not enough time. So I will revert back to the investors who are asking the question. There was one on deployment. We can address this. And one on the valuation of the asset management company. And I will revert back to investors on this one and how we are managing the multiples.

William Kadouch-Chassaing

executive
#34

Thank you, Pierre. So on behalf of the team, Christophe and myself, we would like to thank you for attending this conference. And obviously, as we are at the end of July, for those who are taking their holidays, we wish you a nice break. Otherwise, we will be in town in the next week. So if you have questions, please direct them to us. Do not hesitate. Thank you very much. Bye-bye.

Operator

operator
#35

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