Renesas Electronics Corporation (6723) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
July 31, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Tomohiko Sato
executiveHello, everyone. Thank you so much for joining us today. If you listen to this session in English [Operator Instructions] [Interpreted] Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you very much for joining us despite your busy schedule for the Renesas Electronics Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. With regards to the starting time of this earnings call, I would like to deeply apologize for making the change in short notice. We have simultaneous interpretation channel available. Please interpretation icon bottom screen to choose the language of your choice. And so please could I have the speakers on the videos, please. In today's earnings call, we have our CEO, Mr. Hidetoshi Shibata as well as our CFO, Mr. Shuhei Shinkai as well as our other staff attending this earnings call. First, we will have our CEO, Mr. Shibata, give you an opening remark, and then Mr. Shinkai will be explaining about the second quarter earnings, and that will be followed by Q&A. And we're planning to spend a total of 60 minutes for the earnings call. And the materials that are used in this earnings call are the same as the materials posted on our web page, IR site. Mr. Shibata, please turn on your mic.
Hidetoshi Shibata
executive[Interpreted] Hello. My name is Shibata. So as Mr. Sato mentioned earlier, very sorry about changing of the time on a short notice. And in regards to the earthquake, we've had to make some internal confirmation work. So very sorry, we had to change the time for this earnings call. And as for this earthquake, of course, there are some things that are not yet known. And -- but overall speaking, the impact to our earnings should be limited. And as for the Nishiki factory, the back-end factory, the full production has been resumed and the impact seems to be limited. And as for the Kawashiri, the front-end factory, this accounts for about 13% of the company-wide sales. And already the wafer testing has been resumed and in operation. And now for the pure water and water leakage, repairs and confirmation has been going on, and there has been some damages to the facilities, which we are trying to repair and resume. And we expect the production to resume on August 5. But as for the die bank and the inventory, fortunately speaking, we have secured those beforehand. So we think that these impacts on our performance should be limited. And as for the Kyushu area, OSAT partner has been impacted by the earthquake as well. And as of today, their outlook, we think it is going to be limited on the business as well. So all in all, the impact of the earthquake should be limited to our results. However, on the other hand, when it comes to our customers' situation, there are some cases that supply chain has been suspended. So we need to be very carefully monitoring them in the future. So that is about the earthquake. And in terms of the human safety and injuries, it is limited and it's nothing serious. And at the same time, as for the Takasaki site, the 6-inch, the power plant that is for the front end and also for the power analog R&D site is also at this site. And so from now on, we will take our time and gradually suspend and close our operations, which has been already announced. And please refer to that information. And looking back the second quarter versus our guidance for automotive and IoT, both has been very strong, and we have exceeded our expectation. And as for automobiles overall, there has been quite a strong demand, especially in Japan. The Gen4, our car has been going very well. And -- and from the first quarter, there has been some increase compared to the first quarter. And some of the customers, in some cases, the inventory were too decreased and then they have to increase it. And as for IoT versus guidance, overall, it is exceeding. And for industrial, that is about data center and in China has been very strong, and it's exceeding the guidance. And for infrastructure, up until now, the GPU customers have been a significant customer group. But when it comes to ASIC demand, it is also strong and which is exceeding our expectation. And as for the IoT area, there are some issues of memory shortage in some areas. But as for our customers, the memory shortage issue has been absorbed to a certain extent. And we have strong sales for those customers who have secured the memory beforehand. And for the first quarter, like it was mentioned earlier, the impact of the earthquake to our business itself should be limited. But for the supply chain and the automobile, especially, we need to carefully monitor moving forward. And so those are the unknown parts. But in terms of the automobile, overall speaking, versus last year, we are doing very well. In sequential, the end demand, we expect to be quite flat. And as for IoT, we expect things to be quite strong continuously, especially industrial and also in the infrastructure area. The strength from the second quarter should be continuing. And on the other hand, as for IoT, like I indicated earlier, the memory price hike and the memory shortage impact has been seen to a certain extent. And overall, we expect a slight increase. And like I mentioned earlier, for our main customers, I wouldn't say they were not impacted, but there are some customers who have been able to absorb their impact and which we would like to sell strongly. So that's why we expect a slight increase. And so from the second quarter to third quarter, we expect the strong demand to continue. And so that is our current situation and the outlook for the third quarter. That is my view. And from now on, we will move on to our presentation and the details of the numbers from the CFO, Shinkai-san. Shinkai-san, go ahead, please.
Shuhei Shinkai
executive[Interpreted] My name is Shinkai. I'm the CFO, and I will be explaining based on the presentation material. Next page, please. Next page, please. Well, this is the disclaimer, and please refer to number for the timing business. The transfer of the business was closed on July 1, 2026. And so with regards to the reporting segment for timing of business used to be categorized for auto and IoT, but it has been changed to others. And we are retroactively making changes for the comparison year up to 2025. And this is -- next is the overview of the earnings call. Please refer to the bottom blue column fourth from the left. Revenue is JPY 45.3 billion and gross margin is 58.1% and OP margin is JPY 132.7 billion and OP margin is 32.7%. EBITDA is JPY 154.3 billion. Profit attributable to owners of parent is JPY 113.3 billion and FX is JPY 159 to dollar and JPY 185 to the euro. And please refer to the shade 4 columns to the right for a cumulative results. And excluding the timing impact, the apple-to-apple basis comparison year-on-year as well as Q-on-Q is shown on the light blue column on the right-hand side. And on the next page, I would like to explain on the comparison against guidance as well as Q-on-Q. Next page, please. First, regarding the Q4 result against the expectation, which is shown on the right-hand side, I will explain. In terms of revenue, it was 4.5% against the forecast median, and it was an upside of 4.5%. And more than half was due to FX and the others were contribution from the increase in demand for automotive and IoT. And that was mentioned from the comments from Shibata-san, the auto and the end market demand was very strong. And also for IoT, in addition to data center, the industry IoT and the mass market were better than our expectation. And with regards to gross margin, which is the second line compared to the guidance, it was increased by 1.1 points and the factor was due to depreciation of the yen and also mix improvement and improvement accounted 1/3 each. And in terms of the manufacturing cost, there's an increase in labor cost and fuel cost and also maintenance cost increase were in line with the expectation, but inventory valuation that was considered more conservatively was contributing positive. And for OP, it was 32.7%. And compared to the median, it was plus 3.7 points. And so there was a significant upside. Revenue and gross profit margin improvement in addition to that, there is a decline in OpEx compared to the assumption and that accounts for more than half in terms of the amount of more than JPY 7 billion plus OpEx reduction. And there are 3 major factors. One is about 30% is regarding the investment that we're considering where the execution was pushed out or for example, like the hiring has been delayed or the arrangement with the partners has been delayed or the plan itself were revised and we might have pushed it to the next period. And because of that, the expenses are expected to be postponed. And around 20% or a little bit less than 20% are the ERP integration schedule was revised and was shifted to next year onwards. The company that was acquired, the ERP of the company were planned to be integrated and we're planning to execute that in the second quarter. But because of considering the recent supply situation, we realized that this is not the appropriate timing. So we have postponed that to next fiscal year onwards. And the cost related to that was expected to happen this quarter, but it did not occur. And the rest is the timing delay of projects and also between Q1 and Q2, we were expecting some seasonal factors that were conservatively considered, but they're not happening. And next is the Q-on-Q result. In terms of revenue, it was plus 9.8% -- and gross margin on a Q-on-Q basis was minus 1.0 points. And this is because of OpEx increase like fuel cost and labor cost increase and maintenance cost increase were the reasons for the decline. And OP margin on a Q-on-Q basis was 0.8 point decline. And the major factors are the increase in operating cost. Compared to the expectation, the OpEx were much lower. But on a Q-on-Q basis, it has gone up and half of that were the onetime cost increase in the first quarter, and there's a rebound from that and more than half are the increase in equipment, mostly the labor cost increase reflecting the bonus from Q1. And on the right-hand side, you see the segment results. There's not much to highlight, but the OP margin of auto has gone down 0.9 points on a Q-on-Q basis. And that was the rebound increase from the first quarter, and that has impacted the auto business. Next page, please. Next is the revenue trend on a Q-on-Q basis. I have explained this in the disclaimer. And for the timing business in -- from the first quarter of '26, it's been categorized into others, which is shown in white, and you see the dotted line, but anything beyond Q1 is explained in the same definition. And in the second quarter, the results are shown on the right-hand side at the top. And in total on a year-on-year basis, it's a 24.8% increase. And on a Q-on-Q basis, it's an increase of 8.8% and the segment breakdown is shown at the bottom. So please refer to what's written on the bottom. Next page, please. The next is about inventory. On the left-hand side, you see the in-house inventory in the second quarter. On the Q-on-Q basis, work in progress products has increased mainly on a Q-on-Q basis. And with the production capacity increase, the input has increased and also because of the seasonality of mobile, we have been working on more products and therefore there's more work in process. And for DOI because of the sales increase, the DOI has gone down. And for third quarter outlook, on a Q-on-Q basis, we're expecting inventory to increase, and we will continue to increase capacity. And because of that, the input will increase and also die bank will be enhanced. And based on that policy, we're planning to increase inventory. And on the right-hand side, you see the channel inventory. In the second quarter, on a Q-on-Q basis, the absolute channel inventory amount has increased, but WOI because sell-through has increased a lot, WOI has declined. And for auto and IoT, we are planning to increase inventory because of the demand, but we have not been able to increase our inventory in the second half -- second quarter. And in the third quarter, we will continue to increase inventory. But on the other hand, for WOI because the sell-through size will go up. So we're expecting WOI to decline. And on a second half basis, auto because of increase in demand, we will continue enhancing our inventory. And for IIoT, it will be the same. In general, we are planning to enhance inventory, but that's mainly around the data center segment, the sell-through demand continues to be strong. So WOI will look like it's going down. On a segment basis, there is some difference in color. Next page, please. Next is related to utilization and CapEx. On the left-hand side, you see the utilization rate. In the second quarter, the actuals were 58% and the input utilization has gone up compared to the forecast. And in the third quarter, we are expecting this to increase slightly. And for CapEx, as you see here, in the third quarter -- sorry, in the second quarter, R&D investment were the main CapEx. Next page, please. And for the third quarter forecast, as you can see on the left-hand side of the -- please refer to the dark blue center of the table, the revenue median, JPY 430 billion. The gross profit margin, 57.5% operating margin, 32.5%. And exchange rate assumption is JPY 159 to the dollar and JPY 184 to the euro. And for each of the items, let me give you the background. For the revenue median, JPY 430 billion year-on-year is up 28.7%, and it's up 6.1% Q-on-Q. As Shibata-san mentioned in the beginning, for automobile and the industrial infrastructure and IoT are expected to grow. And for automobile with China, mainly the new product, we expect to increase the 28 MCU and also Japan, the channel inventory should be building up in Europe -- excuse me, the industrial infrastructure with the data center growth, we expect increase. And also now the gross margin, 57.5%. So that is down 0.6% Q-on-Q. And as for -- with the -- there are some improvements from the increased utilization, but with the margin expected to decline Q-on-Q due to rising manufacturing costs. And as for the manufacturing cost, that is for the energy cost, maintenance cost, an increase from the summertime. And also, as for the OP margin, 32.5% Q-on-Q minus 0.2% slight decrease we expect. Q-on-Q, the OpEx should be increasing slightly. So as I mentioned about the second quarter results, those things that were not able to be used will also be shifted to the third quarter. And so as for the FX sensitivity, you can see here with the JPY 1 fluctuation, there is impact JPY 1 fluctuation of JPY 2 billion to the revenue and JPY 0.9 billion to the OP in the U.S. dollar and JPY 0.2 billion revenue and JPY 0.1 billion OP to the euro. And so for the Q3 forecast, based on the constant currency rate, the USD JPY 100 and the euro, JPY 120, operating profit margin will be 27%. And please look at Page 17, the GAAP overview, financial results of the GAAP. And so in the second quarter, the net profit was JPY 149.2 billion because the financial income from Wolfspeed related financial assets was recorded. And so that is a positive impact. And also, as for the timing, business transfer gain, what is not included in the second half, but it will be in the third quarter, excuse me, not in the second quarter, but it will be included in the third quarter. And this is about the update on the Takasaki site. And next page, please. So the impact of the Kumamoto earthquake on operations. This is the slide that's about the earthquake and that concludes my presentation.
Tomohiko Sato
executive[Interpreted] We would now like to move on to the Q&A session. Shibata-san, please turn our video on. [Operator Instructions] Now at first from Nekki BP, Kojima.
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Interpreted] This is Kojima from Nekki BP. Can you hear me?
Hidetoshi Shibata
executive[Interpreted] Yes, we can hear you.
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Interpreted] I would like to express my deepest condolences for the impact from the earthquake. And I would like to ask you the impact of the earthquake. This time, the impact on the performance is going to be limited is what you have explained. But the impact of the earthquake itself compared to 10 years ago, is it fair for us to believe that the impact was smaller than 10 years ago? And the second is that I'm sure you're taking different countermeasures. But the restart of the operation seems to be pretty fast. But is there any effective countermeasure you have taken?
Shuhei Shinkai
executive[Interpreted] There are many things that are still under confirmation. But as of now, compared to 10 years ago, the impact from the earthquake is smaller. In the first place, the size of the shake in the factory, I talk about the level of the shake at the factory, I believe, was much smaller than the earthquake 10 years ago as a fact. And obviously, we had an experience from the earthquake 10 years ago, and we had been gradually taking countermeasures against the earthquake. And we -- in some cases, we have been placing the equipment on top of the anti-seismic facilities. And in some cases, we had BCP inventory that we used to call a little while ago. And by taking those different countermeasures, the itself was smaller. And with the combination of those countermeasures, we are able to restart the operations earlier than before, and that is our assumption at this point.
Tomohiko Sato
executive[Interpreted] Next, from Daiwa Securities, Mr. Okawa.
Junji Okawa
analyst[Interpreted] This is Okawa from Daiwa Securities. I have 2 questions. One is that for the third quarter, the gross margin plan I want to ask about -- there are some energy costs you mentioned. And so when it comes to utilization and the revenue should be strong. So maybe I'm thinking that gross margin could be higher with a higher utilization. Like you have been mentioning about the data center complexity and that's limiting the earnings increase, we know. So how do you view the gross margin moving forward?
Hidetoshi Shibata
executive[Interpreted] Yes. Shinkai-san can answer that.
Shuhei Shinkai
executive[Interpreted] As for the third quarter, gross margin Q-on-Q, 0.6% decrease is what I mentioned. And when I break this down, the improvement from the utilization increase is 50 basis points plus and the increased production cost is 100 basis points minus and net-net wise, 0.6 percentage points. So the impact from the FX is not so much. And as for the mix is almost quite flat, plus/minus 0. And as a result, as you can see, the impact of the mix is not really likely. And moving forward, the outlook, when it comes to utilization, like I mentioned, for the third quarter and the fourth quarter, gradually will increase, and we will expect some contributions from those. And as for the manufacturing costs, -- so because there are some crude oil costs that will be linked to it and that -- there's not much certainty about that. And I think after summer, we will be peaking out.
Junji Okawa
analyst[Interpreted] My second question is about the data center-related business. So this time, for ASIC, you said has significantly increased compared to plan. Is it about the share or the supply? I think last time in the call, you said that might be a bottleneck. And is it that the they turned out to be fine? And in the next -- well, digital power and memory, how do you compare them for the memory data center? Well, for the second quarter and the third quarter as well, for -- as you can see from the major MPU earnings, the MPU has been very strong. And as a result, our memory interface as well has been growing quite strongly and continuously. And when it comes to digital power as well is both strong. And as for digital power and memory interface, the difference could be that the customer base, the spread of the customer base. For power, we have the ASIC customers, the several and GPU customers as well. And we have multiple customers as such. And for each of them, for each of their products and depending on their generation, the share could be changing quite a lot.
Shuhei Shinkai
executive[Interpreted] So I think I will be repeating myself from before. As of now, I think we are in a very good position. I'm confident about that. And in order to maintain our good position, we have to do a very strong execution that is very important. So if we can do that, I think we will be able to maintain our high share. And for the second quarter, what was very good is that because I think based on our assumption. I think as of now, we have demand for the customers that we have been supplying quite exclusively have been very strong, and they are coming to us for their business, and that's why things have been very strong. And when it comes to supply, the WOI numbers, you can see in those numbers as well that the -- we are seeing continuous tightness. And everywhere you look, everything seems very tight. And it's not like we had a breakthrough around that, but we have been trying to gradually increase supply. And from here on until to the end of the year and next year, the step function type of increase is something we are working on right now. And if that could happen, I think we will be able to increase revenue based on the supply capability increase. And so as of now, the incremental supply capacity increase is what we are working on and responding to the situation.
Tomohiko Sato
executive[Interpreted] So let me move on to Takaki-san from Sankei Newspaper.
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Interpreted] This is Takaki from Sankei Newspaper. Can you hear me?
Hidetoshi Shibata
executive[Interpreted] Yes, we can hear you.
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Interpreted] With regards to the earthquake, I'd like to understand how you're going to communicate the information from the CEO, you mentioned that the impact on the performance has been explained and you have changed the timing of the earnings call to confirm the status. But with regards to communicating the information, I'd like to understand how you think of the importance of communicating information. And I believe this is important there were other major plays like the Great East Japan earthquake and also you had experienced the earthquake in Kumamoto 10 years ago. And is there anything you were extra careful in communicating the information? This time, there was nothing particular that ever since I assumed the CEO position, I have been trying to be most transparent about communicating the information. I think there's confusion in the line, I can move onto -- can you mute yourself please.
Shuhei Shinkai
executive[Interpreted] So therefore, we try to disclose as much information as possible. And of course, the situation can change. But at this point, for whatever information that we are aware of at this point, we have disclosed as much as we can at this point. That's all.
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Interpreted] One more question is that this time, the impact on the business performance is limited and also the damage was relatively limited too. But for the semi industry, the impact that's giving on the economy in general is increasing. And with regards to the overall recovery of the economy in Kumamoto, what is your intention or what is your idea around promoting the recovery in Kumamoto as a region?
Shuhei Shinkai
executive[Interpreted] Well, as soon as possible, we want to bring the utilization back to full utilization. And of course, we need to do some catch-up production as well. And with that, we would like to try and recover the damage and hope to make our contribution as we can. And of course, the economy is important, too, but most important is ensuring the safety of the lives of the people. And we are not an industry that has a strong foundation. I mean compared to the other industries, there's a limit to what we can do. But even with that, we will do whatever we can and try and contribute as much as possible to have the situation recover.
Tomohiko Sato
executive[Interpreted] Next question from Mizuho Securities, Mr. Yamamoto.
Yoshitsugu Yamamoto
analyst[Interpreted] This is Yamamoto from Mizuho Securities. Do you hear me?
Shuhei Shinkai
executive[Interpreted] Yes, we can.
Yoshitsugu Yamamoto
analyst[Interpreted] So I have a question about the semiconductor chip price. So the peers have been hiking their price, and we hear news like that. And as for Renesas for the automotive, IoT and micro and analog, maybe by usage or by product or you can tell us what's your view and what's happening with the pricing? Any comments you can give us about the pricing in the current situation?
Shuhei Shinkai
executive[Interpreted] Yes. Yes, I understand the I understand what you're asking because I have to respect one side and also the other side as well when I answer. So from July 1, some of the products, we have revised the pricing. And as a result, for the second half of this year, we will see the effect of that price hiking. So I don't think it's not like a significant price hike that become a new headline or anything like that. It's not like we have done so across the board or anything like that. We have done the price hike for those that we really had to and made our adjustments as such. And so -- so from third quarter earnings onwards, I think we will see the effect of those initiatives. Okay. So from the third quarter, all of a sudden, the GM goes up or it's not like that then I see. And so because from the before, you have adopted the surcharge system for passing on the cost hike to the price. And with the tight demand and supply situation, maybe you have not really hiked your price from the past and that conventional system is still in place? Yes, that's right.
Tomohiko Sato
executive[Interpreted] Next, from [indiscernible] Mashta-san.
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Interpreted] This is Mashta from [indiscernible] doing my PhD research. Can you hear me?
Shuhei Shinkai
executive[Interpreted] Yes, I can hear you.
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Interpreted] In Takasaki, you since announced the gradual close down of the Takasaki factory in Guma Prefecture, I'd like to understand from Shibata-san, the CEO, in terms of the reason why you have decided to close down the Takasaki factory. And according to the material, you mentioned that the basic policy is to maintain employment. So I'd like to also understand your thinking about employment.
Hidetoshi Shibata
executive[Interpreted] Well, as we have announced already, this is basically in line with what we have announced. Takasaki factory is a 6-inch factory. And ever since the operation started, it's been more than 50 years. And the semiconductor factories, of course, it depends on the companies, but ourselves as well as many semi manufacturers are not producing the production equipments themselves. I mean, right now, the SPEs who are enjoying very strong performance are selling the equipment to us, and we're purchasing from them to conduct the production. And unfortunately, 6-inch is a very old manufacturing process. And as the industry in total, the 6-inch manufacturing is shrinking. And taking that into account, the maintenance from our suppliers and also the supply of the parts are becoming more difficult. And in those lines, if they continue the manufacturing, if there's any problem with the manufacturing line that would impact the suppliers right away and also it would impact the quality right away. And to our customers, we would be giving a significant impact. And until now, we have been doing our best to do the maintenance ourselves. But at this point, that is becoming very difficult. And so we have decided to discontinue the production of 6-inch. And or 8-inch plus where we can still expect the support from the SPEs, we will are going to migrate the production and migrate into those products. And employment is going to be maintained. And for the factory, basically will be maintained. And for R&D, we are planning to increase the resources and we are considering to continue the operation locally. And in case of R&D, there are many heavy instruments for experiment, and it cannot be installed in ordinary office spaces. And so we are looking at the different location. And so factories, the employees we are expecting for them to demonstrate their capabilities in the other locations, and we will start communicating that to those employees. But on the other hand, this applies to our factories as well as to the overall manufacturing industry, there are strong needs for human resources. I mean it's different to before. I mean, the employees had more options to choose from. That is what we're seeing now. And so if they were to relocate and have to move to a different location, they might -- a lot of employees would prefer to work for another company. And for those type of people, we will work to support them to change jobs more smoothly. And of course, ensuring employment is a very important thing. But at this point, the sensitivity at this point at least compared to the time I joined this company has changed. I mean, right now, it's easier for the employers employees to look for jobs. That is the situation now.
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Interpreted] With regards -- I have one more question. With regards to the Takasaki factory, I think it's a very familiar business in Takasaki and the residents and the partners have been very familiar with the factory. And Shibata-san if you have any comments to the people who are in the surrounding neighborhood, please share them.
Hidetoshi Shibata
executive[Interpreted] Well, once again, for more than 50 years, we have been working with the local people and the factory has been flourishing along with the local people. And so to the people as well as the local administration, I would like to thank you deeply for your support. And at the same time, because of the reasons I had illustrated before, physically, it's becoming very difficult to continue the operation. And I hope you -- we would get your understanding of the reason why we are closing the factory because the factory is physically difficult to continue the operation. But for the value-added R&D efforts, we will continue the operation and we will put in the efforts to try and enhance the R&D. And through those efforts, we would like to contribute to the local society, and we look forward to gaining your support so that we can work on the design and development of value-added semi, and we would like to develop R&D with your support. And so I look forward to your continued support.
Tomohiko Sato
executive[Interpreted] Next question, Nishigata-san from NHK. Nishigata-san, we can't hear you.
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Interpreted] This is Nishigata from NHK, do you hear me?
Shuhei Shinkai
executive[Interpreted] Yes.
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Interpreted] So from Kawashiri plant, I want to ask you. You said that you will resume production from August 5. Is that going to be a full -- well, how long do you think you need to reach full operation resumption?
Shuhei Shinkai
executive[Interpreted] Yes. Now we don't have a sure information about that. So since resumption of our operation, maybe I think it will take 3 weeks or so. And of course, each, each day at a time, we will try to front-load and advance the full operation resumption so that we can report to you and let you know that everything is back in normal. So as of now, we are expecting about 3 weeks to go back to full operation. That is our target as of now.
Tomohiko Sato
executive[Interpreted] From Nekki Newspaper, [ Otio ]-san.
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Interpreted] This is Otio from Nekki Newspaper. Since beginning, you were saying that you're trying to clarify the impact, but you have a lot of confusion in the auto industry and supply chain and throughout the region, there's a lot of confusion, and this is caused by regions other than semi. But with the closing of your semi factories, is there any case where your semi products are going to be short in the customer side? Is there any concern? Or because you're restarting the operation within 1 week, from our perspective, is it difficult to see that the auto production is going to be confused.
Hidetoshi Shibata
executive[Interpreted] Well, yes, I believe the impact right now is going to be limited.
Tomohiko Sato
executive[Interpreted] Next, from Daiwa Securities, Mr. Okawa.
Junji Okawa
analyst[Interpreted] Sorry, this is my second time to ask. I have 2 questions. One is about the demand environment for automobiles. Overseas semiconductor manufacturers, there are some restocking manufacturers and -- or maybe there are some peers with content increase, they are working on. How is your view on that?
Shuhei Shinkai
executive[Interpreted] Well, yes. I think both could work. It could be either case. In case of our business, the Gen4, our car and SoC we have and the 28-nano Micron as well. I don't know if we can call it content increase, but they are the products that can drive new growth, so which we can expect a continuous growth. And for instance, let's say that, that is the X axis. And now I'm talking about the Y-axis would be the customers' regions. as of now, looking at the situation, relatively speaking, of course, there are some ups and downs depending on the quarters. But as a trend, there are some trends -- the stable growth trend can be seen in Japan and China. And on the other hand, there are some uncertainty in Europe, relatively speaking, and the U.S. I don't have a sense that it's going to grow so much, but I don't think it's going to go down either. So it's quite stable, I think. And so in that sense, there are some different characteristics in each region. And so there are different product groups in each region we can expect and also there are some product growth that can drive our business that could determine our growth in the future. And as of now, compared to last year, I think we can see strong growth in a moderate pace. continuously. That is our view. And in another words, it's not like we can expect a strong growth on and on, but it's -- but we don't expect a cyclical decrease either. So it could be strong, but a slight growth and in a stable manner with some ups and downs, that is the growth trend that we expect in the future as of now.
Junji Okawa
analyst[Interpreted] My second question is about SG&A. What's your view? So with the system introduction, you have postponed the ERP release. And so R&D has been shifted. And so because I think you said like 6 months ago that you will be more active about that. But with the production very active right now, so is it like the SG&A going to increase gradually? Or are you going to be trying to stop the growth of it at some point in time?
Shuhei Shinkai
executive[Interpreted] Well, actively speaking, mainly, we will be using more SG&A for R&D, of course. We will be using those expense for the environment of the employee workplace. -- and mainly R&D would be the target for the SG&A. And we don't expect the SG&A to increase continuously. I hope you don't misunderstand about that. And in terms of the ERP integration pushout, because we wanted to risk any risk that could arise. So like I mentioned in the earlier Q&A session, so especially for data center, in a very tight situation, execution is the key. And if ERP should impact supply in some cases, that's something we really want to avoid. And that's why we decided to postpone in the very short notice. And as Shinkai-san mentioned, those things that were expected to be used turned out to be not used. I think... When it comes to R&D, long-term future growth, so there are some capitalized investments and expense investment. So rather than being very cautious about making investments, I think we want to build a very solid ground right now. And that's how we allocate our budget. My point is that if our budget is very tight, so we don't want to really keep on saving money or anything like that. We are allocating budget to be able to step on our accelerator as well. So it's just that it is less than we expected initially. So this trend, I think, will continuously -- I think it's possible that it's going -- this trend will likely continue. I think it's not good to really beat the expectation either. So the financial outlook based on the guidance, I think we want to try to limit the volatility so that we do some haircuts in order to do so. So that's the range of the change. We want to make in a moderate manner as much as possible. So once we -- at the end of the third quarter, I don't know if we will be able to tell you the same thing, but we might need to increase more, but we try to limit the volatility range, that would be my comment.
Tomohiko Sato
executive[Interpreted] Thank you very much. We have received some questions because we're getting close to the end time. So we would like to close the Q&A session. We will have Shibata-san making a closing remark.
Hidetoshi Shibata
executive[Interpreted] Yes, I think I will be repeating myself, but when it comes to data center, it will be the main thing that is the data center and the AI. When it comes to underlying demand, the demand itself likely to continue very strongly. And as for consumers and IoT space, there are some mixed situation, but mainly around our main customers, I think we will be able to continue the strength in the business. And also with automobiles, like I mentioned earlier, at least by the end of this year, I think things will continue to be quite moderate and positive trend likely to continue. And also, for this outlook, I hope will materialize. We need to recover from the earthquake and also the supply chain around the data center execution is very important. And at the same time, for the mid- to the long-term investment as well as the post-earthquake and the Takasaki related support for the stakeholders will be provided so that we will be able to report to you on that in the next earnings call. So we will kindly request for your continuous support. Thank you very much for your time today.
Tomohiko Sato
executive[Interpreted] Thank you. We would like to conclude the second quarter FY 2026 Renesas Electronics earnings call. [Statements in English on this transcript were spoken by an interpreter present on the live call.]
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