Renesas Electronics Corporation (6723) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
June 25, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Good morning, everyone. Thank you very much, everyone, for taking precious time to attend Renesas Electronics Capital Markets Day 2026. We thank you very much indeed. I'll be your MC for today, Vice President Head of -- my name is Sato, Vice President and Head of Investor Relations. This is today's agenda. Altogether, we expect a 3.5-hour meeting, and we expect to finish the meeting at 12:30 standard time. Those of you at the venue after the session, we are expecting to have a breakout session with the speakers. Please take pause if your time allows. The materials to be used for today's meeting is already posted on the IR site of our home page. Those of you participating online, we have a Q&A session. Please also be aware that the recorded video of this session will be posted on the homepage later on. In the Q&A session, we would like to prioritize the questions from the people at the venue because of the limited time available. Now first of all, we would like to invite the President and CEO of the company, Hidetoshi Shibata. Mr. Shibata, the floor is yours.
Hidetoshi Shibata
executive[Interpreted] Good morning, everyone. There was an earthquake today, and thank you very much for attending this meeting. The weather was bad. So taking -- thank you very much for taking your time. There was an earthquake, and we have a factory in Yamagata, the nearby prefecture at the site of the earthquake. No problems. And we have been able -- we make sure that the operations can be conducted smoothly in this tight supply-demand situation. Capital Market Day has been conducted over the years online. This time around, I think we are having this in-person meeting for the first time in 6 years. Why have we decided to do this? Of course, there are many benefits to online meetings. But as you can see at the back of the room, there are some exhibitions. So I thought that all the things that we are going to explain today will be difficult to understand only by variable explanation. So we wanted to show you some exhibits of our products. So that's one of the purpose of having this own in-person meeting. And I'm sure that you have a lot of exposure to myself and Shinkai-san, but we now have the all global leadership here. So I just wanted you to have a direct conversation with them so that you can have a Q&A session with them individually. The details of the presentations and the numbers are very important. But more importantly, what's driving those numbers? And when you model your analysis in the future, if you can have an idea, what are our priorities when you drive the model, I think it make it easier for you to make your analysis. So please actively take advantage of this session so that you can deepen your conversation with our ELT members. All right. So I'm just a precursor to the following session. So I'll try to be as brief as possible. But usually, I believe Renesas as a company is not really good at making appeals. So I just wanted to summarize the last 7 years after I took office as CEO. So in the last 7 years, I decided to break them into 3 different periods. One is the corner that says 3x. I'll give you some additional explanation after this, but we strive and deliver this 3x. Now we are at the middle section. And also, we are at the overlapping session of the middle section and the far right, 25% that you see in the middle. Last year, with the analysts and investors, I think this caused a lot of disruptions because we had a range -- we set a range for the operating model. And the far right is the same thing as we have been communicating as before, top 3, revenue market share, that's also important, but the most important for us is that amongst our customers and from the prospective users, we have to be 1 of the top 3 when it comes to embedded. We have to be the top 3 share of their mind when they speak about embedded. So that was the aspiration that we shared with you last year in 2025. Now 3x. What is this 3x now? So this is what I mean by 3x. This is the performance from 2019 and compared to 2025, it's 2.1x. That is as of the revenue for 2025. And the guidance for the full year, we don't provide that for this fiscal year, but -- so 2.1x means this -- the first quarter results and the guidance for the second quarter, a simple some of that and double that. And with that, it's 2.1x. The micro results yesterday was they think was encouraging, and the demand so far this year has been quite favorable. So if there's not any disruptions, I think we are well positioned to attain these numbers this year. So 15-something numbers that I have given to you is still conservative in my personal view. The numbers to be covered in Shinkai-san session later will be more analytical, it's a more apple-to-apple numbers. So the numbers that he was going to give is different from mine. So I'm just giving you the numbers that I piled up based on facts. 3x is the same one. First quarter, second quarter numbers, if you add them and double them altogether, this will be the number. So in 7 years, it's -- this means a 7x increase from 2019. I think -- so that's the reason why I have decided to use this 3x number because this is the most evident track record that we have achieved, and market cap in parallel compared to 2022, we will -- we have an aspiration to increase by 6x. But compared with 2019 as of Friday last week, it was already 8.7x. This 2019 is the year that I took office as CEO. And I think this is a so, so good number. It's not so bad. Of course, we can aspire for high numbers, but I think this is so, so good. There are bad times and good times, of course, but throughout this period, in the 7 years, this is the progress that we have achieved. And for all of you, I just want you to remember these numbers and when we take actions, if there's anything surprising, I want you to consider that we have done and achieved certain results and this time around, we should be safe. So that's the reason why I prepared this slide. Now the middle 25%, this is the catch-up part. So what are we going to do here? What's going to happen with the ROI? And when are we going to finish this effort? So -- it's difficult to give you a proper explanation. We have to devise a good explanation, but it's very difficult for me to come up with a good idea as to what would be the good explanation. So I just decided to present with you that this is what we are trying to do, what we have been doing so that we can reassure you. So that's the reason why I prepared this slide. The first element here, talk about this once in a while. So beyond hardware, Qualcomm's announced its ambition to acquire modular, but hardware alone is not sufficient. AI and software performance, these cannot be delivered by hardware alone. So how can we maximize the power of hardware and deliver the maximum value on the part of the users. So it's about how to utilize those hardwares and for that purpose, UX. UX has covered a broad area in terms of its meaning. But UX, we are undertaking many good efforts, and Ivo is here. So I want you to talk with him if you have the opportunity. And with AI, the UX importance is going to be increasing significantly exponentially. So we will like to double down on the UX efforts going forward. And Altium, the acquisition that we made 2 years ago. We also hear a lot of questions regarding the progress of Altium acquisition. Shinkai-san will talk about that after this in his session. Now we are making this pivot from a product company to a platform company. So we are tracking some numbers in order to track their progress. So these will be explained by Shinkai-san later. And Renesas 365 Limoges is here. He is the person who have devised this initiative from scratch, and there's a demo afterwards. So I will hope that you'll take a look at it. So once you see it, I hope that you'll be able to have an idea what we are talking about, what this is about, what Renesas 365 is about. 365 demo itself. That makes me very proud, but the robot hand that you see at the back, this is connected with 365. I want you to see that and see the potential of what can be enabled with this in the future? If you can contract that imagination that will be very good for me. it may take time. But so far, I think things are progressing quite favorably. I hope that you'll share the same understanding. If that's the case, that will be very pleasant for me. Now the middle one, the foundational technology. Well, these are the things that we are going to do. These are a matter of fact, but we are going to accelerate these efforts, be it software or be it the IT infrastructure or ERP integration, those were the main themes that for our internal company because we have made a series of acquisitions. But now we have to roll out the AI infrastructure for us to utilize ourselves. So we are particular about the equipment, and of course, the methodology for building semiconductor, producing semiconductors. Previously, we were relying on our own efforts. But rather than that, we would like to utilize technology and be more smooth in this manufacturing processes. Because this will have a direct repercussion on our competitiveness. So these are the areas that we are making investments. It's not that we are going to spend JPY 80 billion altogether at one time. So 10 million, 12 million, we are like to accelerate investment in a phased approach. That will be given -- that will be explained by Shinkai-san in his part, so that you can see the overall picture. And lastly, the organization capability. This is something that we have to work on from here onwards. We have to reinforce the capability of our organization. This is a must. So the collaboration environment, the leadership development and also the organizations to work organically. We have to revise the mechanism, the structure and make necessary investments. Those are the things that we have been communicating to you so far. And this year, San Jose office, we made a sizable investment about JPY 15 billion, and we remodeled the office completely. So the office is very easy to use now. Quite comfortable. The next is the Kokubunchi Mosachi R&D side. We would like to modernize that facility, make it easier for the residents to use so that we can stimulate the innovation and the imagination of the engineers. And now from here, I'd like to talk about the future. So this is only a prelude. My speech is only a prelude and the details will follow by each leader in their respective presentation after this. So I just want to give you an introduction. First of all, in the next several years, higher growth will be driven predominantly by AI and IT infrastructure. In 3, 4 years from now, if things go smoothly, 40% of our total revenues will perhaps come from AI and infrastructure-related businesses according to our analysis. AI enabler, these are the devices and solutions that will enable AI. So we are going to provide these devices and solutions for that. That's the first engine of our growth. Then we will go to the second rocket. So this is the physical -- a buzz word recently. And this -- in our case, this includes software-defined vehicles, but the physical AI will be the second stage of our rocket and then this will boost the growth from 2030 onwards. And so first 1 was the AI enablement. The second 1 is the AI deployment. This is -- we are going to deploy AI in areas close to our everyday life, and that will be driving the second stage of our growth. And the third piece is about 2035. Digitalization vision that we have set the target for 2035. This remains unchanged from before. But 1 thing that is changing in this space is the role played by AI. Previously, utilizing AI, we said that human works will may be made easier. From that perspective, we thought about how to utilize AI, but given the enormous speed of evolution of AI agents rather than that previous concept, we believe that AI agent will take -- replace the human work quite considerably. So we made that change of consideration. So we are not just simply using AI in a right way to -- and provide them for human beings. Rather, AI will be the user of our digital. So we've made this change in the way of thinking. So we would like to use AI as a companion as a complement. So with that mindset, we are going to further enrich our platform going forward. Now the first and third -- second and third rocket that I just explained for each of them, what are the opportunities and what are the approaches to be taken by Renesas. I will just give you a prelude and the details will be provided and explained by the respective sessions after myself. So that is how I would like to continue we started today. AI infrastructure up until now. Up to the previous earnings, we have been centering around power delivery. We have been seeing power, power, power. And right at that point, Intel's earnings results came out and marketing at -- market started to shift, and our engagement with the customers also started to shift. We're not just talking about GPU and power anymore. It's not as simple as that. We need to become a heterogeneous. We are faced with a complex environment in which parameters are growing rapidly. Even in such models, how can we decrease the latency and compute? Regardless of the power involved, how can we swiftly deliver computational results? That is the major shift. And MPU-related devices are on the rise in terms of demand. And the flip side of this coin is that the broad control or workload optimization and the power consumption optimization becomes economically important because the model itself is growing unless we take care of this aspect, the model will not function. Control play is something that we started to hear a lot about. The demand for this is growing rapidly. That is how we see the current market. All in all, in the coming 5 years, the semiconductor market as a whole could grow fivefold. That is how I see it. Based on third-party research results, which we have analyzed and customer forecasts are also included in our analysis. We have been triangulating the various types of information and came up with our own estimate. And we came to the conclusion that this could reach fivefold, very honestly speaking. Towards this end, this fivefold growth power delivery should grow even further, MPU and MPU-related products, including the memory interface, started to grow rather late. So it has a potential to grow even further. That is why I have put plus-plus here. Control plane also expected to grow. But compared to the overall semiconductor. Maybe this is going to be a slower growth. But all in all, the applications to which we provide our solutions, all these related segments should grow by fivefold more or less. So the opportunity in the 3, 4 or 5 years will become fivefold in our assumption. And where do we stand? Regarding power and memory interface, I think we have a relatively strong foothold. Leveraging this, we will get into other areas. In terms of technology, I think it's in the corridor, but we have our modules put on exhibition. As of last year, when I talked about module, people would go like why module, why Renesas? I think that was the reaction. But now we have a solid product. So please take a look. And discover that we were able to give up to our own words. Now moving on, we have a positioning. We have our ways of winning and utilizing this, how are we going to utilize the opportunity for growth, not just market potential, opportunity. But how is growth going to look like for Renesas is written on the right hand side. Fortunately, we have a lot of embedded devices. So control demand is going to be increasing, and that is going to be favorable for us. As a simple example, we have a configurable mixed-signal device and other MCUs that are traditional lineup of product. And AI workload power optimization related SSD and others are included as well. So on the left, I talked about fivefold growth. In that future, control-related technology will be needed, and that is where we want to provide our products into. And at the bottom, we are talking about grid 2 core. From the good level, we are getting closer to the left end. We used to be on the board corepower but we are moving more towards racks. Going forward, energy storage and solid-state transformers because of the discrete elements and battery management elements, there are many strong competitors. So it's not that we can just make a lump sum investment for IGBT and update our technology. That's not the kind of approach we are looking at now. Control device analog device will be necessary. So this peripheral segment and moving towards the grid more than now is what we are thinking about. Regarding physical AI, similar story. Market will grow significantly. This will be covered by Vivek on TV and Pete will talk about robotics. 2035 seems like a long way ahead. So 15-fold increase might not mean much at this point. But the overall direction is that in the 5 years to come, I think automotive industry would be the growth driver. But beyond that, robots will come into the picture in full scale. In this world, especially in automotive segment, MCU, although there are some fluctuations, we are among the top 3 in the market. And this I have been repeatedly saying, but from the low end to 2,000 tops, high-end compute, this end-to-end scalability is offered only by us. We were only targeting the automotive industry, but now we are going to shift to robots and humanoids. That is going to be the direction in which we will grow. Our Cateno is red available at the back of this venue. What can you do with the Renesas device, especially it does on infotainment Well, this level of high-performance delivery can be done by Renesas products is something that I expect you to react in. And the customers and users are reacting very strongly. And until last week, our teams were in Germany, negotiating a significant deal. Here, in terms of a growth direction, this is where we want to gain market share. Regarding MCU, there was an opposite trend in the previous several years, not just us, that 1 company would grow significantly and others would lag behind. That has been the situation. Unfortunately, automotive industry changes only [indiscernible]. So this trend will not become a significant shift starting for next year also. But we have a plan ahead as Renesas. So rest assured, we are not concerned. I'm not sure if it's going to be 2027 or 2028, but our preparation should bear fruit at some point. So it's just a matter of time. And intelligence at the edge. As I have mentioned earlier, we need to complement AI Agents performance as a companion and partner. On the left-hand side, you know very well, but AI is evolving in a rapid speed as you can see in this chart. Yes, it's a speedy development. But transformer came about in 2017. And in the world of embedded products, applications used in transformers are increasingly being developed right now. It's not like LLM in the Internet world. It has taken 10 years. So in the physical world, deployment of embedded takes time. [indiscernible] is currently on the rise and world model should eventually emerge. But whether that's going to be deployed on the robots and humanoids, this should take more time. I think that's a realistic view. Let's assume that 5 years from the introduction of CPT in 2022, will that be the point in which this will actually be deployed? I don't think so. I think it's going to be 2030 onwards realistically speaking, that we will see the world shift in that direction. So we are planning ahead. And utilizing the platform, we are going to have a wide range of portfolio. And the digital set something that can make full use of AI. We will be focusing our resources in this area. Unless we do that, when AI comes to a platform and plays around, that is all good. but I can only work on probability. So you can say something that is probable. But from the user's perspective, validation is necessary. If we have a solid digital threat, we can allow AI to make deterministic proposals. So those are usable proposals, and I see a huge gap here. We need to invest in a meaningful way so that we are well prepared. And next, how are we going to win in this area? AI infrastructure, physical AI intelligence at the edge. We have 3 slides covering those topics. AI infrastructure, in this segment, we are positioned well. We're not going to do something drastically new, I think we should be strengthening what we already have. We have been enabling ramp-up of customers in a relatively good speed. Some customer says it's a combination of American speed and Japanese quality. So we pride ourselves in the speed of deployment. Regarding technology, I talked about module earlier. But going forward, we have interconnect technology fosters through memory interface. And using control plane, we can achieve connectivity within the racks. That is where we intend to win. And on the far right, digital and UX. In the corridor, you will be able to see the actual amirators of ours. Please take a look. Using these we argue this, before assembling their products have and thermal simulation can be done. So time to market of our customers can be shortened rapidly or significantly. It might look slightly different. But outside of the silicon, we see opportunity and bottleneck. You will be able to feel that for yourself. Regarding physical AI, this is something that should happen in the longer term. Near term targets will be explained by Vivek. This is not something we are capable of doing now, but something we intend to go into. We will be investing in the foundation, enhancing our competitiveness in this area. That is the key topic for us. And 1 key phrase you should be looking at is the combination or the advanced design of hardware and software. AI models are advancing and hardware processes also. So some hardware do not have the necessary performance. And modular has been acquired by Qualcomm because of this. And we are taking our own approach. Our hardware performance. We will show true value through our customers' usage. That is something that we would like to show. In televisions at the edge. This is something that we expect to happen down the road. So many things are in the future. But on the left, I'm talking about content that we will enrich and our platform, although being vertical will be open horizontally. Our competitors and passive users can actively use our platform. It's not just us but going forward, utilizing this platform, the market itself can democratize or free platforms. That is something that we want to realize. To sum up, a big topic for our growth is AI. AI will appear in the 3-state rocket that we envision, not just 5 years down the road, but in 10 years' time and beyond, this is going to lead the way in terms of growth. So this is going to be the backbone. In addition, I talked about control in terms of AI infrastructure. But SDV, physical AI, even Pete will talk about this later. But in the world of physical AI, we have a lot of ingredients to realize this. So many of our solutions will be offered so that we can have some plus growth. And lastly, in 10 years' time, we want to utilize our digital platform, so that AI friendly environment will be created by our platform. Our purpose remains the same. With the introduction of AI and physical AI become more real than ever, we want to make our lives easier and that can be realized in this world. With that, I would like to wrap up my part, and I will hand it over to Shinkai-san. He is going to talk about more solid numbers.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Thank you very much. Now we want to invite Shuhei Shinkai, the Senior Vice President and CFO. .
Shuhei Shinkai
executive[Interpreted] Good morning. This is Shinkai from CFO. So in my finance part, this is the regular format. And so towards 2025 aspiration, we want to talk about the progress and also the model. So recap on the past. This is the normal regular format. Since the past, so you can see the trend of our numbers, just like we usually go on a constant currency basis, looking at JPY 100 to $1, JPY 120 to euro. In 2025, revenue for the full year declined year-on-year. But as you know, for the quarter basis, the revenue hit -- already hit the bottom. In 2024, Q4 was the bottom. In '25, Q1 or including forecast for 6 quarters in a row, we continue to post positive numbers. And that is the current situation. So in 2026, for the full year, we expect to see a full-scale steady results to come. And income statement for 2025. The second from the top, gross margin, the revenue year-on-year declined. The gross margin stayed solid. So as expected in the model, we ended up achieving 55%. But our operating margin at the very bottom, the model showed 25% to 30%, but we ended up being 24%. As you can see at the right bottom for the operating margin at -- when we explained by updating the model, we mentioned adjustment to make a change to the model. The purpose of this change was that currently, we are looking through the plateau condition within intention. When we will make the solid investment for the future growth, that's what we want to have at this point along this adjustment happen. And R&D and SG&A is something that we did to make this adjustment versus foundational investment. It was important, but we weren't really addressing enough and we were behind, but we decided to go ahead and make more investment in these areas. And also -- this is what we are seeing and in the past, it's catching up, but this is what we are starting to see. And the R&D is 19% within a scope of model, so we were going through the election and forecast process for R&D since 2024, and we saw the lower baseline. In SG&A, we will take actions to lower the baseline as part of improving productivity. So this is expected to improve. The operating margin improvement is expected. And this would be the driver. So what is this foundational investment? And so I think we went through -- briefly went through the items, but now I'm showing more numbers. So 2025 is compared to 2022, 3 years ago. In 2022, not just top line, but operating margin was also highest in '22. I'm sure there is a difference in definition, but this is the perspective that we took to show. So we call this as foundational investment the investment into the businesses comparing 25, the yen amount increased by 1.5x, ratio was 11% to 14%. So we increased the percentage what's included in this investment. As you can see on the right-hand side, the common IP platform, software, R&D development. And so -- and the design document to be improved to improve efficiency of designing and in enterprise infrastructure, including AI and employee well-being improvement, so investment into office. So R&D, SG&A, so many different areas where we are investing right now. and we're trying to also promote future growth of the business. So as we move forward with this investment, what is the revenue breakdown we expect to get and the size we hope to get to. In 2035, this is the revenue portfolio we are looking at. The midterm is around 5 years ahead, and long term is like 10 years ahead in 2035 or something like that. And the left-hand side is the size. And which segment that we expect to see the growth. And so AI infrastructure will be the main driver in physical AI, SDV and lastly, intelligence and Edge. Those are the 3 areas. Those are the 3 steps to see the growth. And looking at the high of the bar, in 2025, we look at that as one. In midterm, we want to double first. In long term, we want to triple this '25 number. I know it's quite ambitious, but this is what we are looking at to see top line growth. So we breakdown by segment on the right-hand side. reporting segment, automotive, industrial, infra IoT and also software digitization, we also want to grow this. This is not current segment, but we want to grow this. And 35% for automotive, infrastructure, Infra, IoT, 50%; and software digitization, 15%. Since the breakdown we are trying to accomplish in our revenue. I also touched on this in a valuation in the past. Software digitization sales percentage within sales by growing this to a certain level, the overall corporate valuation to be increased valuation to be increased, and so we can increase our overall corporate value. So that's how we have calculated this portfolio. Next, on the margin. And left gross margin right-hand side OP margin and time line is starting from '25 and midterm roughly around 5 years is shown on this slide. So overall, the gross margin will be 55% and around 55% it's almost flat. Operating margin, 25% to 30% range to be expanding in this range. Starting with the gross margin. On the left, in-house capacity expansion through the investment, so that increases depreciation. Also, we see a very tight supply. So there is a component cost increases expected but the price increase mix improvement to offset the negative impact, utilization improvement to offset the negative impact to end up being flat in total. Operating margin the foundational investment, as I mentioned earlier. So looking at earnings, and we need to make the right balance to control the investment, but we'll continue to make investments and just like a component cost increases under the current situation, we expect to see the cost increases in many different elements in utilizing technologies, including AI to improve the productivity to offset the cost increases. Then top line growth to enjoy operating leverage . So in this model, it's not taking place by time line. This is more like actual section of view regardless of the time. So we're not talking about going down and going up by the sequentially. So looking at the '26 operating margin level, the scale portion will be seen. And but then also investment is taking place. So that's what we see [indiscernible] '26. So depending on the time we see, so this movement could happen differently from what you see on the screen. So we're not talking about the margin, it will be coming down from now onwards. So depending on our top line growth and earnings growth, we will control the spending amount. Talking about capital allocation. The overall framework hasn't changed. So CapEx, deleverage dividend and strategic investment, this will be the order of our capital allocation. Recently on the CapEx, as I mentioned, we are increasing CapEx to reinforce our in-house capability. So embedded area where we want to focus more on the mature node technology will be utilized. The capacity for this is quite tight globally. So we want to have an in-house capacity in reinforcement and the leverage portion. So there's a dollar bond, which comes to maturity. So we redeemed them so we can accelerate deleverage. So divestitures, the timing business allocation process. So we're making good progress so far. So we are accomplishing the conditions needed for the closing. So we're expecting to come to closing in the new future. So the proceeds coming from this transfer will be utilized for the gross investment, but also at the same time, the return to shareholders. This timing transfer, the use of [indiscernible], we don't try to decide quickly. We want to take some time to think with the cautious capital, cash and need to be secured under the current environment to stay flexible. I think that is one way to go, I'm sure different players trying to raise the funds so that they can increase the balance sheet. And so Well, of course, we remain the same policy. But when deciding making decision to start spending, we may -- we want to shift the timing. So we are not making a decision too fast or not immediately. Regarding ATM, I know this is a quite big slide, somewhat busy. So in 2024, we completed acquisition for '25 beyond for 3 years, these are the stages we're looking at, reform, pivot and perform. And those are the 3 years that we have segmented here. And we are in pivot phase. Desktop application product over to SaaS product platform. So we are shifting the changing offerings. And by the end of this year, we should be through with the shift. This transition to be completed. And then from next year onward, we will go into perform stage by increasing volume, and we will convert them into values. So that is what we are preparing right now. So what are the actual numbers and KPIs we're looking at, which are shown at the bottom half. The starting with the left bottom, for the past 1 year, looking at the progress of the past year, ARR. This is the KPI linked to the revenue. So it's growing at 8% per annum right now. Like compared to historical numbers, the sales growth, ARR growth has slowed down, but as you see at the bottom, MAU, monthly active user has been growing by 24%. Intentionally, we shifted our marketing methodology to grow the scale. So first, we focus on the scale to grow, and this is a result of that such effort. And in the pivotal section where we are in right now, so the team is to expand the scale and as the KPI to accomplish this, we're looking at CRR, customer retention rate. And maintaining existing business also conversion rate. And this is a shift to the new platform, a new platform customer expansion of new customers. So those are what we are looking at to move on this pivot phase. And when this is completed, the next the expanded volume to be converted into value. So in this triangle. -- we will improve -- increase the maturity level of the pyramid while ensuring the scale but moving up the pyramid by utilizing the upper platform, so we can raise the unit price. So we can convert the scale into value, and that is expected to come in next year onward in a perform phase. And the final goal is set over here, this is -- there is no change since -- from last year, mid- to long term, looking at $1 billion to $1.5 billion. And here's a summary. This is the sixfold breakdown image that we always show the size valuation 3x. So just like a Shibata slide, we are taking a stock number -- stock price from the end of the week. And so we're talking about 6x. We still have a big upside from there. So what do we need to do is summarized on the right-hand side. So this is data are pretty much the same as what we explained last year. So we are basically executing what we explained last year, and we'll continue to do so in a section, back to basics. So we will invest in foundational area to ensure the future growth and valuation gap fill, portfolio is reviewed and capital allocation to be implemented in a disciplined manner. And software digitization to increase the valuation in product valuation expand furthermore by making investments. And so we can fill in this 6x table charge. And lastly, 1 more comment. The model results and constant currency basis are shown on the same slide here, just for your reference. So this concludes my presentation.
Operator
operatorThank you. Now we'd like to move on to the next session. We would like to invite Vice President and CSO, Stephen Limoges to make the presentation. Steve, the floor is yours.
Stephen Limoges
executiveGood morning. My name is Stephen Lemos, and I'm the Chief Sales Officer for Renesas. Today, I will present Renesas sales strategy and discuss our plans to accelerate growth within our existing customer base and the mass market for future growth. For the last few years, Renesas has been consistent with our high-level sales strategy. Our strategy is to go deeper and drive more revenue out of our existing customer base. Also to go broader and expand into a new customer base. While the high-level strategy stays the same, we've made some key strategic shifts to accelerate our growth faster than the market. First, we increased our penetration into the fastest growing markets by investing in our direct resources in secular growth markets. As Shibata-san mentioned, these are AI infrastructure and compute, physical AI and software-defined vehicles. Second, we centralized the scale. -- sorry, Second, we diversify our revenue through dedicated mass market deployment focused on new customer acquisition. Finally, we centralized the scale, deploying highly technical, centralized support using Renesas AI tools to respond to customer needs quickly anywhere in the globe in 24 hours. I'd like to add a little more depth into what broader and deeper means to the sales team. Deeper means our sales teams are intensely focused on gaining share within our known revenue-generating customers. Our mentality is how to continuously increase our relationship within these customers and our sales metrics are aligned with this focus. Design and manufacturing is global, and we are leveraging Renesas' scale and global sales footprint to gain share in our largest customers. And having a constant curiosity and ambition to find and create more opportunities to maximize Renesas success on every customer product. For broader -- this is Renesas' next frontier for growth, gaining access to the thousands of customers we currently do not interact with. It's about increasing Renesas mindshare by leveraging our extensive distribution relationships and partnerships to amplify our solutions in all major markets and searching for the next big customer or end equipment, which will drive future growth for Renesas. The most valuable resource in sales is our people. How and where they are deployed is a key factor in driving growth. In 2026, the keyword is focus. All customers have access to Renesas. However, our sales teams will focus their proactive engagement on 2 areas: growth accounts and mass market. The teams will operate separately within each region, focusing on gaining share growth accounts, which are revenue-generating accounts within our secular growth markets and dedicated mass market teams in all major regions focusing on new customer acquisition and cultivating those markets to find the next generation of growth accounts for NSS. The new deployment will increase our time spend without drastically increasing our resources in markets providing explosive growth for Renesas. So what differentiates Renesas in the market is a high level of customer intimacy as well as the proven track record of manufacturing expertise. The feedback that I get directly from customers is Renesas is a technology leader and a partner who helps them innovate and accelerate their time to market. Using our differentiation to outgrow the market, it requires focus, investing our resources in the fastest-growing segments and partnering with industry-leading customers. It also requires some patience as the technology adoption and speed of these markets varies widely. This is why we'd like to visualize the revenue contributions of our secular growth markets as 3-stage rockets. By heavily investing in the 3-stage rocket, we are accelerating and diversifying our revenue to grow faster than the market. And beginning in 2026 with our AI infrastructure leadership, we will achieve this consistently throughout the mid and long term. Our growth expectations include significant mass market acceleration. In the mass market, margins are healthy. The next generation of engineers are being developed, and the next big revenue-generating customers are born. In 2026, we have already implemented an ecosystem to accelerate our mass market growth. We will be achieving this through 5 pillars. Dedicated mass market teams solely focus on developing large semiconductor markets, leveraging our distribution and e-commerce partners to gain access to every customer in those regions. Industry-leading technical support, customers want efficient experiences with fast, thorough technical answers. We're going to deploy our Renesas AI [indiscernible] Athena support tool to our sales teams and our distribution partners. This will enhance our ability to scale quickly and maintain our technical support leadership. And finally, finding who is next. Many customers who are large revenue drivers for Renesas had small beginnings. Our teams will search the market and place bets to see the long-term growth for Renesas. So what is Athena? If we want to go broad, we must evolve our support strategy to scale and support the entire market quickly and efficiently. Athena is helping us to achieve the scale. It is a super augmented AI design and technical support tool that is enabling support for all customers and a fraction of the amount of time it has taken in the past. Much like well-known AI tools, the answer to your question is right at your fingertips in seconds. But what differentiates ATHENA is its ability to use all Renesas internal resources, fine-tuned, internally tested and quality control to be fast and accurate, deployed to both Renesas sales, our distribution partners and in the future are growth customers. The tool improves scale significantly, accelerating customer support and new acquisition. As I mentioned previously, our mass market strategy hinges on our dedicated sales team and our extensive distribution network, both center around people making connections with customers. Proper guidance and focus is needed to know where to invest and place those bets. This is where our Renesas user experience journey is utilized to generate and most importantly, qualify customer leads, customer activity, which might begin at a sample, a download, a tool use or a new design on Renesas 365, generate intelligent leads, not just leads, intelligent leads growing our sales funnel and guiding our sales teams to focus their engagement on the next big revenue drivers for Renesas. The good news is our sales strategy is already yielding results in new customer acquisition. For the first half of 2026, our new customer acquisition results are tracking to 8% growth overall, with consistent results across all regions. Our long-term goal is to double the number of new customers using Renesas. In closing, we're going to go deeper into our existing customer base. We're going to go broader by developing an expanded customer base. We will sharpen our focus and deploy to secular growth markets and the mass market. And we'll broaden our customer base through a targeted new customer acquisition strategy. With that, I'll close my presentation. I sincerely thank you all, and I appreciate your time. Thank you.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Thank you very much. We will hear from Vivek Bhan, Senior Vice President and General Manager of High Performance on to talk about software-defined vehicles. the floor is yours.
Vivek Bhan
executiveGood morning and good afternoon. I'm Vivek Bhan, Senior Vice President and General Manager of the High Performance Computing business at Renesas. Today, I will walk you through Renaissance's strategic direction for software-defined vehicles. I will also outline how our compute and power portfolio are positioning us for sustained growth and long-term value delivery for our customers. The automotive industry is fundamentally shifting from static machines to dynamic upgradable technology platforms. As vehicles become software-defined, new features will be continuously enhanced also driving architectures that lead to increase in semiconductor content per vehicle. Hopefully, through this presentation, we will explain how Renesas delivers the brains, the distributed thinking and the power nervous system of the software-defined vehicle of the future, thereby positioning us to address system-level challenges and customer pain points that will define the SDV era. SDV architectures are expected to dominate new vehicle sales. with projections showing that over 75% of the new cars built on SDV principles by 2035. Every major global automaker is now increasing the investments in SDV programs. While it increases value through software, silicon also becomes very mission-critical, driving a step change in compute, power management and overall semiconductor content per vehicle potentially more than doubling over time. OEMs are very interested to expand beyond closed proprietary SDV ecosystems and are actively seeking partners to reduce risk and preserve control. This is a clear opportunity for Renaissance to emerge as a top-tier SDV supplier, offering an open collaborative and flexible platform with the key OEM partners. Today, together, SDV and AI are transforming vehicles into intelligent, continuously evolving platforms. AI-enabled software-defined vehicles, increased volume and complexity of automotive software from ADAS Level 2 to Level 4 transition [indiscernible] to gen AI integration with LLM and VLM to over-the-year updates along with complex supporting tool chains and frameworks. Cornerstone of AI-enabled SDV are high-performance computing hardware, which is addressed by our core SoC portfolio and multiple zonal controllers, which are addressed through Renaissance MCU portfolio, all combined with our advanced power solutions. Renesas platform vision are also extendable beyond automotive into adjacent markets, such as robotics, physical AI as market adopts those technologies in those new areas. Let me start by outlining the products Renaissance offers in the SDV market space. We are uniquely positioned. In automotive, we are differentiated MCU to SoC portfolio powered by advanced chiplets and leading edge process technologies. We offer scalable, heterogeneous compute that has neural processors, graphic processors, compute engines and industry leadership in real-time performance, latency, safety and power efficiency, delivered all to Renesas open access SDV platform to enable software reuse, portability and a common architecture for our customers. In addition to compute, -- we offer a wide range of analog and power products targeted for better automotive system performance. ST is accelerating revenue growth from today into the mid- to long term. The foundational forces the growth are architecture centralization, structurally increasing silicon and software content per vehicle, ADAS, L2/L3 adoption, driving step function demand for scalable, high-performance safety-certified compute platforms. The platformization transition from component sales to software-enabled platforms expands value capture and life cycle scalability. Finally, partnering with ecosystems enables us to deliver optimized solutions and accelerate customer adoption. Specifically, we as Renaissance are focusing on a select group of OEMs that are seeking differentiation, building deep platform level partnerships while working very closely with those OEMs. OEMs also are moving at different speeds and adopting different architecture models. Some are quickly moving to heavily centralized designs. And while others are adopting hybrid and zonal approaches. This diversity is exactly where Renesas differentiates and is positioned well to offer and address full range of OEM compute strategies, offering scalability and flexibility rather than forcing a single architecture. OEMs want choice and control and Renesas enables both. We bring one of the industry's broadest MCU portfolios, spanning low-end to high-end real-time control, zonal control as well as crossover MCUs with both proprietary as well as standard cores. Our scalable SoC portfolio extends from dozens of tops to thousands of tops and is further enhanced through chiplet architecture, addressing the growing needs for AI-enabled high-performance central compute with built-in functional safety, security and power efficiency. We complement all this with core software framework tools and development ecosystem. All this enables faster development, validation and deployment for our OEMs going forward. Taken together, Renesas MCU to SoC continuum, is well aligned to serving AI-enabled SDV evolution. Let me briefly zoom into our R-Car SoC business and what it talks about our SDV activities. We are seeing strong traction across OEMs, Tier 1s and the software ecosystem. Today, R-Car Gen 4 is already in production, and Gen 5 is gaining momentum across next-generation SDV programs with announced design-ins and multiple active RFQs. On the Tier 1 side, we have over a dozen active engagements, including proof-of-concept and platform collaborations. We now have more than 15 active software and technology partners. This collaboration shortens integration cycles and reduces deployment risk for our customers. We are also, as Renesas, further aligning to how OEMs are actually adopting SDV architectures. This positions Renesas not just as an SoC supplier but as a long-term SDV platform partner with OEMs seeking this differentiation. OEMs are adopting different architectures. I mentioned that from central compute to Zonal, and we are uniquely positioned to offer a true MCU to SoC road map, combined with power on an architecturally open platform, which is not a black box. With our approach, OEMs have flexibility, control an optimal embedded performance across the whole fleet of vehicles they make. While other competitors focus on a limited range of compute sockets, or some other competitors are very closed and have a very rigid ecosystem to work with, Renesas participates across multiple vehicle segments through a flexible partnership and realizable differentiation for our customers. Let me also talk about the transformation pivot that we are making happen at Renesas. Today, vehicle silicon cycles are lengthy from early engagement to start a production. Auto SDVs are pushing for an integrated hardware software story they want end-to-end systems, which can be better realized with SoC supplier building foundational investments that Shibata-san also talked about to enable this SDV acceleration. Through this pivot that we are executing on, Renesas wants to accelerate time to production and number of products that we can release into the market. We want to enable our customers to have a faster time to market, and they'll be able to upgrade their solution over the years. Let me also touch briefly on how AI is evolving inside the vehicle and why this is strategically important for the Renaissance transformation. Automotive AI beyond route ops is around how AI evolves safely and predictably over a long vehicle life cycle. The systems are no longer just single functions like perception, but also a combination of multiple specialized AI agents that all have to be orchestrated together to work correctly in a vehicle. This is why AI-enabled SDV must go beyond raw compute. It requires heterogeneous architectures, which Renesas offers, integrating compute processing, graphics processing, AI processing, all working together while delivering automotive-grade safety and real-time performance. Our R-Car scalable architecture is designed to integrate the AI evolution, combining heterogeneous compute, offering built-in safety, enable virtualization of different systems and deliver it at efficient power so that OEMs can continuously evolve these AI capabilities without having to redesign their platform over a longer life cycle. This Renesas journey continues the transformation of the company from a semiconductor supplier into a true system solution provider. SDV requires guaranteed performance with built-in rails. Customers need predictability, and they need trust as software takes on more safety critical functions. Customers want portability. They want reuse, they want faster development cycles. They want to have longer product cycles, while also moving towards these AI compute architectures. Renesas, through this journey is moving to a vertical integration from hardware with new differentiated IP to core software and tools to eventually application stacks and ultimately, system solutions. This will be the heart of our platform transformation. Our vision as Renesas is to deliver integrated platforms that reduce customer complexity accelerate deployment and derisk system adoption. In doing so, Renesas moves up the value stack, capturing differentiation better for the market. Renesas' focus is to scale SDV and AI growth with predictability and discipline through better foundations within the company. As automotive systems become more complex, it is about delivering repeatable, high-quality platforms both across SoCs and MCUs. We are building foundations that span architecture, organization, validation, hardware, software and system solutions. Early performance modeling, system emulation, automated verification are all part of these foundations. We want to build more differentiated in-house IP to ensure consistency, scale and capital efficiency. These results will be measurable over time. We will see early defect discovery, faster regression cycles and improvements in development efficiency while enabling maximum reuse across programs. Step changes to build this foundation is what will allow Renaissance to grow faster in the future. with higher confidence as SDV adoption accelerates. Further talking about the foundations behind how we scale Renesas for SDV growth. We are building capabilities continuously spread over time, focus on fundamentals, global talent strong domain leadership, disciplined foundry strategy and an early system level modeling and ammunition to shift risk left. We expand that with Level 2 moving into system-driven validation, use case-based KPIs, automated verification, AI-assisted tools an ecosystem-based reference designs. Our next level, Level 3 is where value scales, ownership of critical software stacks, system validation with CICD and differentiated in-house IP running on our hardware. These foundations that we are investing in will help Renesas build technology leadership and execution into a durable long-term value creation. Let me also talk about our MCU road map. Our strategy on MCUs is to broaden the portfolio with full scalable compute running through various core options, deepening our ecosystem and translate that into accelerating market gains over the next 5, 6 years. We are extending our general-purpose leadership from midrange down into low end and forward into next-generation families. We are expanding our ARM-based lineup in addition to our proprietary offerings. We are building MCUs and that our purpose built for EV and SDV zone, eventually evolving to a fully zoned and SDV optimized generation of those products. For IP, we are getting ready for the Risk 5 adoption in the future. The result of these activities that we are executing on will provide us a full vehicle coverage for automotive and eventually taking those products and technologies and IP into adjacent areas like robotics. New product launches have started to generate design in acceleration. Eventually, that will turn into OEM production in the later years, followed by revenue ramp. Over the next 5 years, MCU portfolio should see a wide range of products and families being introduced into the market, followed by customer adoption as well as customer ramp sometime later. I will also quickly touch on EVs, where we are growing today and positioned to win tomorrow. We are expanding our EV portfolio across the full system, integrating BMS, inverters, DC/DC, onboard chargers with our R-Car U5X family and RH850 U2X family. They're already driving the industry shift to 28-nanometer. And some of these products are already adopted by top OEMs worldwide enduring some of the leading players in China. Looking ahead, our next-generation EV platform will enable further scalable [indiscernible] integration with about 50% more faster control optimized to unlock power technologies that will be integrated through these faster cores, faster ADCs and a next-gen AI ML accelerator. And we are executing early through deep local system partnerships to enable our products into quick adoption by our customers. Let me summarize by -- and close by summarizing the Renesas story, which is about offering a compelling road map that is built on market realities and decisive strategic execution. First, software-defined vehicles adoption is accelerating around centralized compute, software and AI. Renesas journey is directly aligned to the market trends and is focused on addressing the system needs of the future. Secondly, we are expanding from a leading semiconductor supplier to a true vertical partner for our OEMs. By moving towards fully integrated systems, combining hardware, software tools and know-how, we deepen and strengthen our customer relationships and increase long-term value capture for us and for our customers. Third, we will work and increase our SDV investments across software tools, stacks and expertise over the coming years. This strengthens our automotive journey and also positions Renaissance to expand into adjacent growth markets such as physical AI, robotics and intelligent systems over time. Taken together, Renesas is uniquely positioned at the intersection of compute, power and software enabling the SDV transition from end to end. This is how we are building a sustainable growth engine for the next decade. By aligning with secular trends, expanding our role in customer systems and executing with discipline. Thank you for your time and your continued interest in Renesas.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] After this, we would like to move on to the Q&A session. We have to prepare the stage. So please give us a few minutes. Thank you. In the Q&A session, the Q&A session will be participated by Shibata-san, Shinkai-San, Stephen and Vivek. Speakers, please come up to the stage. Now we'd like to move on to the Q&A session. [Operator Instructions] We would now like to receive the questions from analysts and investors. We would like to first receive questions from the floor at the venue. UBS, Mr. Yasui, please.
Kenji Yasui
analyst[Interpreted] My name is Yasui from UBS Securities. My first question, this time around, I think you have highlighted the AI, in particular, in this Capital Market Day presentation. I think you are convinced that this growth in the market is quite stable. So are there anything that you have not presented last year. I have felt your aspirations. The previously timing PMIC and those interface has been the case. But are there any new applications that will be broadening going forward? That's my first question.
Hidetoshi Shibata
executive[Interpreted] Well, I think I can give you more details sometime later. But in my presentation, I talked about the control plane and the interconnect-related, in these areas product definition and product design or development has -- is already in progress. I'm not very sure if this is going to be significant, but I think quite a good pace of growth will be driven by these product lines. And something new -- we're not going to begin something totally that we have not touched. Rather, we would like to accelerate the efforts that we have been undertaking so far or be more -- give more resource to them. That I think will be the basic activities that we are going to focus this year. AI, it's a common threat. But I think hardware was quite expanded already. But as I mentioned during my part -- but the performance of the hardware is not delivered. In order to deliver those performance time and labor more than anticipated is needed in order to deliver the performance of hardware. So we wanted to address that. So that effort is going to be more sizable compared to before. I'm sorry that I'm going back and forth, but AI is going to be utilized in order to realize AI. That is the situation that is happening today. So according to our activities, AI model will have to be mapped with the hardware in order to do the computation. And previously, these were manual work. But for the human coded software were needed in order to do this. But this can be replaced by AI, and this is what we are working on right now. And the preliminary result shows a very promising outcome. So this is an area that we would like to further enrich going forward. So we will, of course, work on the hardware. But maybe this is too exaggerated, but I think the software proportion is going to become much larger compared to before, especially in our R&D efforts. That's what I'm thinking about.
Kenji Yasui
analyst[Interpreted] My second question to the 3 of you, you talked about the potential for growth. Last fiscal year, you mentioned that the Chinese market is going to be important, and that will have a downside pressure on the margin because you're going to make investments in China. So China, I think, physical AI included, I think this is -- China is a central market for AI. And mass market, I think, as an approach is quite reasonable in order to deliver synergies. So last, I think you are going to -- you are achieving an expansion in customer acquisitions. So including AI compared to last year, what is the potential you're looking at for the mass market expansion? If you can just give us a hint.
Hidetoshi Shibata
executive[Interpreted] Well, the mass market overall is Stephen's part and also after this in [indiscernible] part, we will like to talk about the mass market expansion potential. But compared to last year, Stephen, who can talk about the mass market. And of course, for the China market opportunity, we would like to talk about that during this Q&A session. Maybe later in [indiscernible] session, I think you can talk -- you can listen to him present them or you can ask a question directly to him, maybe. But Stephen, can you go ahead with...
Stephen Limoges
executive[indiscernible] mass market in China, there's quite a few end markets that are always developing in China, right? Industrial has been growing in China, new customers popping up to serve the market consistently in the last couple of years. Now on the AI infrastructure side, you have many new players in every region, but also in China. And so our expectation is that you will start to penetrate these customers and catch them very early so that we can grow with them, okay? China is behind the U.S. maybe by a couple of years in AI. The good news is, is that the products that we're developing for the leading customers now will serve that market very, very well. So it's just a matter of making sure that our teams are focused on developing the AI infrastructure market.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Next, Takayama-san from Goldman Sachs.
Daiki Takayama
analyst[Interpreted] This is Takayama from Goldman Sachs. I have A question for Shibata-san and also Shinkai-san. So 2 questions in total. -- is when listening to your presentation today, Shibata-san had a ton of confidence. It is not just about the current demand being strong, but the competitiveness and positioning in years to come, I think you have confidence in them. First of all, whether this is an accurate understanding or not is a part of my question. And when it comes to software-defined vehicles and infrastructure, focusing more on control and CPU and MPU in addition to your strong position there, you are well prepared, I guess. And you are ready to deploy. That is why you think that your competitiveness and positioning will be better. going forward. So I just wanted to know if my understanding of your confidence was correct or not. And when creating value, you need to be able to deliver. So supply path to supply is key. You mentioned this previously in the call, but you need to quick -- move quickly, especially for automotive. But when it comes to your supply capacity, have you overcome your bottleneck? So some updates there would be appreciated.
Hidetoshi Shibata
executive[Interpreted] When it comes to power of supply, if needed, Steve will supplement. But this is a challenging task. In our case, -- and Zaher will explain this later today. But fortunately, we are farlight or maybe hybrid is a better term right now. But our own production capacity, combined with our partners' capacity is something that we are working with. Of course, it goes without saying that our production capacity is for our sales to use. So there is a limitation. But then OSAT and foundries, they have more partners. So they tend to have more accommodation capability in terms of capacity. If we want to expand in a short period of time, we need to pay more. But that could mean that if we pay, we can launch in a speedy manner. So when you see a short-term demand increase, this hybrid is more suitable. But down the road, we need to enhance our own in-house capacity, as Shinkai-san mentioned. So we want increase just in a single year and then decrease but we will enhance CapEx that we have enough in-house capability. That is regarding your question on our power to supply. And regarding my confidence, the fact that our confidence is building up is supported by our clear visibility on our future. If I were to try to explain this more thoroughly, we have the first stage of rocket and the third stage of Rocket. But for the third, we do have a lot of tools. And if we continue on this path, we will see a bright future. So the confidence comes with the fact that we can go as planned in this direction. But for stage #2, physical AI. This is something that we need to focus more on because we have strong competitors. As Vivek mentioned, against our existing strengths, we need to build up more to compete. Whether I have the confidence that we have a winning strategy. That is not the case yet. But I now have a clear vision on what needs to be done. In that sense, maybe I am being optimistic overall. That is how I feel. But Steve can talk about the supply factor, maybe more specifically.
Stephen Limoges
executiveFirst stage rocket on the infrastructure side is the most critical right now and the most aggressive growth. I do want to point out that with the investments that we've already made in the hybrid model. You can see in our results, the significant growth of our AI revenue, and that comes through hard work, investment and strategic partnerships and that will continue. -- while we may not catch up to the unprecedented demand in infrastructure until 2027, we will continually increase and that output will be significantly more -- and like Shibata-san mentioned, our ability to use a hybrid model will help us to hold our suppliers accountable so that we can sustain an aggressive cost structure to ship into the market as well. So with our plans, I am confident that in the next year, we will catch up the demand.
Daiki Takayama
analyst[Interpreted] Another question for Shinkai-san. So you have bought a definition of AI this time around. When this new to your presentation, I had thought about how much in numeric terms, are you going to see a growth? -- time-wise, you talked about fivefold but maybe you -- looking into more growth. And I just want to know how is your company structured towards that growth. And regarding the ForEx, if it becomes JPY 150 per dollar, then there is going to be a 5-point difference. But now you've reached JPY 160 per dollar. So what kind of range should we foresee going forward?
Shuhei Shinkai
executive[Interpreted] So regarding the AI revenue definition, we previously focused on digital power. And the memory interface for CAI. That was the focus. In the timing business. We reviewed this, and we have a new definition, which is wider order, AI data center. So GPU and CPU, disappear and memory interface. So it's a wider definition of coverage. And regarding the timing business, which was divested, this will be excluded. That's the overall definition change. And regarding growth rate, each companies have -- there always of looking at this. But as I showed you in my slides, in the diagram, that was based on the understanding that the market in 5 years' time, will grow at about 40%. Towards that end, we will grow even faster than the market. So some plus is based on that understanding. And second point, ForEx, you have rightfully understood our assumption, the sensitivity range is as you spelled out. So it would have an impact on the operating margin. Mike, please. I don't have the numbers off the top of my head, but probably twofold, 1.5x more or 2x more in the current situation.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Now moving on to the next question, BofA, Hirakawa-san.
Mikio Hirakawa
analyst[Interpreted] Hirakawa from BofA Securities. My first question. Regarding RCR, recently, Rafe adopted this and other OEMs, you have a pipeline for them. So I think the business is quite favorable. And today, you talk about the business model, you have MCU and SoC, so that is the strength of your business model including a time-to-market advantage. So once again, I would like to ask this question. In RAV4, when you were adopted, Renesas R-Car was the functional benefit on -- from the viewpoint of customer that became the reason for them to adopt. Is it the superior power consumption? What is the strength from the customer viewpoint regarding R-C? And regarding the chart, the R-Car revenue in 2025 in the start year, the revenue, how much was it as a result of R-Car. That's my first question.
Hidetoshi Shibata
executive[Interpreted] Vivek, can you answer the question?
Vivek Bhan
executiveSo I think you had 2 questions. So or more. I'll answer it. So thank you for asking the question. So as far as our car benefits are concerned, Gen 4 and Gen 5, as we go from 1 generation to the next, we try to add more and more benefits to our features and performance. But at a high level, -- where we differentiate is power consumption, it number one. Number 2 is because we are an MCU supplier also, we have intrinsic information and knowledge about real-time performance, low latency performance. we are able to take those concepts and also implement that on the SoC side. So power consumption one, low latency, better real-time performance and then executing to the specifications other specifications the customer are asking for. All these come together to why a customer will adopt our product for Gen 4. On Gen 5, it is a broader product for centralized compute for -- it has a significant amount of compute capabilities on CPUs, on AI processing, NPUs, on graphic processing, it is done in 3 nanometer. So it's designed to incite a lot of features in a smaller monolithic die as well as provide low power consumption in terms of when you look at frames per watt and AI tops per watt, we can get to lower performance. As I mentioned, we don't need in our SoCs and external MCU, safety MCU because we know how to do safety islands. We bring it into our SoCs itself. So that allows us to do many things, how we get a workload and distribute it to our application processor versus our real-time processor because it's done within the same chip. So we're able to show a lot of different improvements in performance and educate the customers on what we can do by having that kind of integration. We also have IP in the next generation, what is called freedom from interference, which allows ASLB islands and ASLD islands, different type of safety and security levels to be integrated without them interfering with each other. That becomes important in the future of SDVs because you will see a lot of ADAS IVI coming together. And their safety, security, real-time performance is not the same, but we are able to handle that with the architectures we are bringing out so to address some of these trends that are coming into the market. So those are high level. I hope I answered your question. So on the revenue side, we just started with RAV4. So revenue is small in the first year in -- but it will grow as more and more adoption happens in the subsequent years. We also expect in the next 3 quarters, Gen 4 to be adopted outside Japan with another leading OEM. So that would also help increase the revenue. So we are building more OEMs behind Gen 4 but revenue is small in tens of millions in the first year, but it grows over time.
Mikio Hirakawa
analystMy follow-up question for the second part. Yes, the reason I asked that question is that I'd like to have a sense how big the sales in 2030. So if the $1 million, $5 million, that makes a lot of difference.
Vivek Bhan
executiveSo 2030 specifically is your question. We will see continuous ramp of Gen 4. We started now and it will grow as more vehicles adopt it and more OEMs adopt it. But also, we expect the beginning of our Gen 5 launch also to happen around 2030. That doesn't mean we will ramp very quickly, but we'll have customers, and then they will ramp in the subsequent years with more and more volume. So we see a transition from Gen 3. Gen 3 is actually getting used more than we expected. Gen 4 is ramping up and by '30 Gen 5 will start kicking in, but it will also take time to ramp up.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Any other questions? Yamasaki-san from Nomura Securities.
Masaya Yamasaki
analyst[Interpreted] Yamasaki from Nomura. I have 2 questions. First is regarding gross margin target. You saw a chart and talked about product mix and price. Those are the 2 upside. -- factors you explained. Regardless of the exact figures, I just want to understand your way of thinking. One kind of product mix shift would result in a margin increase. And regarding your pricing strategy. So if you -- there is a tight supply situation that is factored in or foundry cost is going to go up? Are you going to pass that through or maybe change of product mix will directly lead to your price increase. So what is your take?
Hidetoshi Shibata
executive[Interpreted] So Shinkai-san will talk about the product mix. And then regarding the pricing strategy, Steve will take that. And if supplementary explanation is needed, I will jump in. So, Shinkai-san, please.
Shuhei Shinkai
executive[Interpreted] Regarding gross margin and bridge, it has been an illustrative chart and mix and price has been dealt with together. But regarding product mix, analog products will be at the core. Segment-wise, physical AI intelligence at the edge. These are the segments covered. These were are expected to grow, and the product mix will improve as a result. In other words, within the infrastructure, digital power Automotive will be a less and comparatively talk speaking and physical AI and Others will be higher. So data center related to the infrastructure will be high, but power-related segments will be low. That is how I think about the situation.
Stephen Limoges
executive[indiscernible] I would call -- I would take a look at the market. And almost every semiconductor company is experiencing increases in raw materials, all the way through fab and assembly and test. And you see many semiconductor companies who have increased price 1 or 2 times in the last year. Renesas will do the same in some areas, but we're going to do it strategically, okay? And when I say that is, we will work with our customers to make sure that we don't lose share and that we continue to grow. And we do it in areas where maybe there are older legacy products that become a bit more expensive. But also make sure that we are balancing where we increase price to be competitive with our competitors as well. So it's not as simple as just increasing pricing because of cost. So we evaluate all those factors. But at the end of the day, that is absolutely something that we will do and continue to evaluate moving forward.
Hidetoshi Shibata
executive[Interpreted] In the short term, because of the demand and supply balance, this could trigger the price adjustment. And in terms of cost, similarly, we need to make adjustments. But when it comes to figures, mass market and the digital like ESP needs to go up. This is the main stream or this is the most effective way. Large sockets and large customers in the vertical. These deals can go up and down. This is the tendency. So trend-wise, we will improve our mix, ASP and margin. That can be done by changing our engagement model with our customers, deal with more customers that means in terms of engagement. I think that is the way to go. This will take time. And Shinkai-san chart reflected this kind of mindset.
Masaya Yamasaki
analyst[Interpreted] Second point. This is regarding the core of MCU. So your own IP to arm and the risk highway, you are expanding. So how are you going to use core by application -- or what kind of mindset is behind the changing way of usage for core? And is entering into CPU market. How do you see this move?
Vivek Bhan
executiveThank you for your question about how do we deploy our ports because we will have multiple cores into the market. So a great question. We have been very thoughtful about our core strategy. We had proprietary codes based on RH850 that were highly power-efficient, had great latency and real-time performance. And a lot of our customers have developed software and systems around them, and they want to continue using the RH850 core. For those customers and where we see RH850 benefits and performance, we will continue to expand that family. Having said that, there is a decent group of OEMs and customers coming up, they want to stay with standard course and not adopt proprietary course partly because of multi-sourcing also. If you have ARM-based cores and they want to have at least 2 leading suppliers and use Amcor's unify their software capability to integrate with these suppliers, those customers prefer standard cores and that's why we are introducing strongly our ARM-based families across the scale of products. So the other important thing is when you introduce a family, you have to make sure customers get a range of products, not just a high-end product or just the middle end, they are expecting to have a full-scale portfolio to adopt. So core strategy is one, making sure it is a scalable strategy so that a customer adopting a certain core proprietary or standard has a full set of solutions in play. And then RISC-V is being monitored and opportunistically looked at. There are different market sentiments and interest right now. But we do believe at a certain time, it will have a role to play in this whole MCU architecture, of course, and we'll be very well prepared to address that also.
Masaya Yamasaki
analyst[Interpreted] So regarding CPU chip manufacturing for by arm, what is your take on that, the development by ARM?
Vivek Bhan
executiveSo it is well-known that ARM who used to be IP supplier is also making products and some subsystems that may eventually compete with their customers today. That is what it looks like is happening. We are not seeing a significant element of that in the automotive side. It doesn't mean that it may not happen, but they are focusing on non-auto applications maybe eventually, they will look at auto also, but we don't see a lot of that activity happening today. Number 2 is in the automotive space, besides the ARM cores, there is a lot of what is called routing latency requirements that are coming in zonal. There's a lot of reliability and temperature requirements that are coming in auto the safety requirements are also increasing. So the solution is just not the core itself, but your capability to deliver reliably functional safety, right temperature, routers and AI performance latency to the edge. So we need to continue to make sure we differentiate on those levels and competition will also try to proceed and arm could be 1 of the competitors in the future. But in auto, we don't see them as active today.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] We are receiving other questions, but we have already overrun the expected time to finish. So with this we would like to finish the Q&A session at this juncture. We will take an 8-minute break, and we will resume the session at 11:00. Thank you. [Break]
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] It is 11 clock. We are starting the session -- resume decisions soon. Okay. So we are starting the session. The first presentation is Mr. Gaurang Shah, the Vice President and General Manager of Embedded Processing. And also the Vice President of R&D and digital industry software and digitization, [indiscernible] will give us a demonstration.
Gaurang Shah
executiveThank you for joining. My name is Gaurang Shah, General Manager of Embedded Processing at Renesas. So today, I'll walk you through our digitalization journey. Fundamentally, the way we are changing the way we go to the market and unlock the next phase of revenue growth. The embedded market is at an inflection point. Demand is accelerating with AI and connected devices for the traditional field support model doesn't scale. This clearly clears an opportunity and whoever scales the engagement digitally, and with the least friction will win. Our response to this challenge is a platform-driven model that expands reach and deepen engagement with our customers. The goal is ForEx the customers and 3x the revenue for the business by 2035, powered by platform economics and recurring growth. So as I go through the presentation, please keep in mind what Shibata-san mentioned in his presentation, beyond hardware and how do we grow into mass market. So this is the scale, which is the amended processing business and the scale and balance behind our business. We operate across 3 silicon pillars: Microcontrollers, microprocessors and connectivity. Our MCUs are clearly tiered. RL78 family is for cost-sensitive applications at 16-bit. Rx for industrial and real-time control; RA, our new fastest-growing platform is driving AI. On the next compute class, our RZ microprocessors extend us into the higher compute zone for applications like vision and robotics. And our connectivity portfolio enables complete integrated connected solutions. Underneath the silicon platforms, we differentiate with deep application level technology. Artificial intelligence, machine learning, motor drive, HMI, safety, security and energy efficiency are driving very strong design ins. The result is a very well balanced business across products and end markets. It gives us the resilience and the multiple growth vectors and really forms the foundation for our platform strategy. So what are the market forces that are really making this the right time for launching a platform. There are 4 trends that make it the right moment. First, edge and physical AI. It's driving local compute and expanding our addressable market into robotics, humanoid and autonomous platforms. Second, post-COVID, governments are mandating localization of semiconductor ecosystem. That localization drives regional ecosystems that requires faster innovation. And that's the new growth vector for us. Third, rising regulation. Safety and security are no longer an optional requirement. They are mandatory, where we need to add those components and technologies to our core compute platform. Fourth, edge AI is increasing system complexity as systems become more intelligent, integration becomes harder and products become more software-centric. All 4 of these forces collide into 1 massive bottleneck, rising developer complexity or user complexity. The company that simplifies development experience will win market share, and that's exactly what Renesas 365 delivers. So I'm going to walk you through the developers pain point. And when you have a user trying to design with an embedded system, what are some of the pain points. This slide shows where the value is lost today and how Renesas 365 unlocks it. The first phase is ideation. This is where the engineer comes or the user comes, looks at the data sheets. And that process is extremely manual today. The tools, the data sheets, the reference designs are all on disconnected systems. And the user is trying to make that decision using incomplete information with gaps and that can create missed design wins. And the next is the development is extremely slow. Engineers are spending a lot of time in low-value tasks such as trying to figure out how to use low-level software stack on to our devices. This delays products and delays revenues. The last bit is after the product, the value stops. We sell the product, we deliver it to the customer, and that's where the journey ends. The product ship and disconnect and there is very little ongoing engagement or life cycle management or recurring revenue. The core problem through these 3 development cycles is there is no continuous digital connection across the life cycle. Renesas 365 fixes this. It connects every step from idea to deployment, driving faster growth, higher productivity and recurring revenue. So what is Renesas 365? It's a turning point in how we make money in embedded systems. Today, the tool market is large, about $15 billion but super fragmented. No company owns the full workflow, and that's our opportunity to capture platform level value. And we do that across 3 steps. We first AI-assisted ideation. We make that manual process work with AI where project starts and it makes the user's journey a lot easier at the beginning and helps us win more designs. The next is model-based realization. It speeds up development improves efficiency and increases customer lock-in. The last bit, which is untapped is cloud-based realization or life cycle management. It enables ongoing services and recurring revenue. What makes this powerful is throughout these 3 steps, there is a digital thread. It connects every step from idea to deployment. And once customers build, validate and deploy on the platform, switching becomes very hard, moving us from onetime chip sale to a recurring platform revenue. That's the idea behind 365 million. So now let me walk you through the first phase of -- the first pillar of Renesas 365 and is the main driver for customer acquisition and customer growth. Today, the design starts manually. If the developer doesn't know our products or doesn't know the product family, the wrong product family gets chosen or we don't get considered at all. And that's a massive lost opportunity for us. We changed that. Developers describe what they need in the electronic system designer, which is at the heart of the Renesas 365. And the platform quickly generates a validated design using relevant Renesas products instead of choosing from hundreds of products, it narrows it down. This makes it much easier for developers to start with us and grow with us over time. Two things make it sticky. It's a multi-domain view across hardware and software. And it's a digital context that carries the decision forward. The result, we drive towards our vision of ForEx the customers with much greater efficiency. So this is the heart of Renesas 365. It's model-based realization, and this is where the strongest lock-in for our customers happens. We turned the design intent into a working system, much faster at scale and with a lot higher efficiency. Today, the workflows are very fragmented across hardware, software and tools. 365 brings this together into 1 platform. The user defines the intent of the system and the platform automates lots of key decisions, reducing manual work, and speeding development. There are 2 key points. This is the strongest lock-in. Validated design choices are built over time and makes it very difficult for users and customers to switch out of our system. And it's a very scalable model. We don't have to scale people to be able to gain more customers and that's what enables mass market. So we can grow our customer base without needing to scale FAEs or marketers, and that's a very big plus. So this is already alive in our RA product family. It was launched at Embedded World in March 2026 and will be expanding across the product portfolio. The last bit or the last pillar, which is the cloud-based utilization, and this is where higher margin recurring revenue comes from. In the past, our relationship ended when the product shipped. Now it continues across the full life cycle. Capabilities like OTA update, fleet management, security and traceability are becoming essential driven by connected devices and regulation. Customers will get today these services from third-party vendors or other companies. But since we have the digital context throughout the journey of the customer, we can deliver these services with a lot more efficiency. And that's what we intend to do as their partner. The impact is very clear as a result of this. It's recurring revenue. From the in-store customer base, it's a much stronger customer lock-in throughout the journey. And it's -- we also collect real-world data from our customers so that we can improve our next products. This execution is also underway. We've already launched OTA solutions on the RA platform, and we'll be expanding across all of the platforms and the devices that I talked about. So now we've covered the strategy. What is Renesas 365 and what the platform enables. Now let's turn our attention to execution. The next section shows how we scale 365 through our road map through our go-to-market and through our organization through the organization at Renesas, the power of the organization that we have. As you go through it, please focus on 3 questions. Is the road map credible? Is the go-to-market targeted for growth and are we built to execute. So let's first talk about the evolution of the road map. Today, we already offer a strong developer platform. AI-assisted design, model-based workflows and cloud development is already in play on our RA platform. We are already in the market and we are getting early traction. Next, we want to move up with prebuild valuated subsystems and blocks. This makes the digitalization beyond component to a subsystem level. And that makes it much easier from selling components to enabling subsystems. Long term, this is our long-term vision. We want to build an open ecosystem, partners, third parties, maybe even competitors, can add IP and solutions to our platform and that creates a massive network effect. At each step, our market expands and the platform gets stronger. Our goal is to make Renesas 365 the platform of choice for the embedded industry. What kind of customers are we trying to target with this platform? These are the 3 different personas of customers that we want to focus on. We first have the traditional OEMs, our current customers. Their challenge is agility. We are focused on speed and competitiveness, and we help them move faster with our model-based design, with our electronic design with our digitalization, increasing our share and content per system. Then there are the new age companies where for them, they are trying to compete with the traditional OEMs and where the speed to market is critical. There, we want to act as the virtual Tier 1 using AI to win the designs quickly. Last but not the least is our emerging markets. I mentioned about localization post-COVID and that's driven by growth, localization and regulation. We want to enable these local players from turnkey solutions to customization, expanding our reach. In essence, we were the 3 segments that drive growth but it's 1 platform. We deepen our engagement with our current customers, we acquire new customers, and we expand our geo presence. This is an eye chart, and I'm not intending to go through every block, but this is the execution of our road map through 2028 across 4 layers: solutions, workflows, developer experience and platform. Today, the foundation is already in place. RA is platform-ready, key workflows are live and the core system, the ESD, the electronic system design and the digital thread is operational. In 2026, we broaden. We're going to add more devices, RX, RL70BRZ, RH850 all of the capabilities of Renesas plus our analog and power components with -- essentially with AI-driven workflows and a unified data model with open APIs. By 2027, we're going to scale up, expanding into higher complexity devices with subsystem solutions and full life cycle management. By 2028, we will be completing our vision. We will be adopting agentic design and agentic flows that really makes the platform a lot more active. It makes intelligent recommendations and legacy migration will happen at scale. Each step builds proven capabilities with AI as a step function accelerator throughout our journey. So what -- how are we going to leverage Agentic AI as the future of Renesas 365? Our intention is to make the platform active, not passive. It understands where the developer is in the process and guides the decision in real time without slowing them down. It also helps developers get started faster by understanding the intent of the developer and setting up the environment and generating working designs from the very beginning. Importantly, it moves us up the stack from component level tools to system-level guidance, bringing hardware software and designs together. This is the key transformation from a silicon supplier to a platform-driven company. So I gave a lot of great ideas, Renesas 365, are we really set up to succeed and execute within the organization? So the platform sits at the intersection of 3 key groups: Software and digitalization, product groups, which are all the different business units and the user interface group or U.S. led by Ivo. Together, these 3 groups will deliver all the layers that we need for the platform. Developer experience will be provided by SWD. Product building blocks will be given by the different product groups and the open ecosystem subsystems will be driven by the user interface group. So this is not a side initiative for us. This is at the core of our company. We have a very clear mission and there is a lot of accountability that is being driven from top to bottom. So with that, I will summarize my presentation and add with 4 closing points. First, AI growth is a tailwind for us. We are very well positioned for edge and physical AI, with the right silicon and a platform that makes adoption easy. Second, there is a clear advantage. 365 reduces time to design, improves retention and build strong switching costs. Third, differentiated IP. We have a very large portfolio of our IP-enabled software-defined systems across artificial interiors, motor control, security, connectivity, power, these are all the modalities that we are looking at in terms of developing our platform and our IP. First, the execution is in place. We have strong aligned investments, a very clear road map and early traction with 365. Overall, we are shifting from product sales to a platform-driven recurring model, driving long-term growth and shareholder value for our shareholders. Thank you, and now I'll invite Lee to give demo of Renesas 365. Thank you.
Unknown Executive
executiveGood morning. I will do my best to bring all of this to life with a real demo today of Renesas 365. Okay. All right. So what you're looking at right now is a real life Renesas 365. This is in the browser, okay? And this is effectively where users or developers will come to, to get started on Renesas 365. The great thing about it is that it's available anywhere, any device, any place, anywhere in the world, you can come and access this. So immediately, you're being freed from the shackles of those point tools which are generally buried or located somewhere else, a lot of the time inaccessible. So it's a very accessible platform. What you're looking at here is what's known as a workspace, okay? And this brings together all of the different design assets in a design. And it also allows people to come together to collaborate. So all of those stakeholders in the value chain can come together and work together in 1 digital place. There's a few different ways you can get started with Renesas 365. If you're an existing customer, you could connect your existing projects to the platform. You can also come in and want to explore some of our technology, some of -- through our evaluation kits or software projects. And the other way is you might have some idea. We want to actually get started, maybe bring that idea to life from scratch, so you can go ahead and do that here as well. As I scroll down, what you're looking at here is what we call solutions. And solutions are essentially things that are container for all of the different kind of design assets that come together on the platform. I've got a bunch of them in here today, but we're going to take a look at 1 of them specifically. So we're going to jump into this balancing robot solution. So this is a real balancing robot that we built. You can see here on the left-hand side, the big tile is the system design. I'm going to jump into this in a moment, talk a bit about what you can do here. This is where ideation starts. On the right-hand side here, we've got other titles, and these represent things like hardware designs and the actual software projects themselves. And if we scroll down a bit further, you can even start to see devices that come alive on the platform. This is real instances of these devices that have been built that we can deploy and manage software on. So that's the kind of operational life cycle management part of this. When you start a new solution, we've also got the ability to bring reference designs. So a lot of the time, as Gaurang was saying, these things are fragmented. It can be difficult to go and find the assets that you want to actually use and bring in and start the design from. But in Renesas 365, we make that really easy. So for example, if I want to find all of the evaluation kits for our RA series of microcontrollers, I can just scan them here, click import and they brought immediately into my solution. Similarly with software projects. I can do the same thing. So this makes it extremely seamless in terms of starting to leverage all of the design assets that Renesas provide today, making it very easy for you to get started with designs. So let's jump into this electronic system designer because this is where, as Gaurang mentioned, this is the heart of things and where you get started. Most design start with some block diagram, some conceptualization, some idea of what you're trying to do. And so here, much like if you're using, say, a Visio or a lucid chart, you can just start effectively free drawing what you're interested in and what you're trying to achieve. This is the beginning of capturing system design intent. But of course, in Renesas 365, this is much more than just a graphical diagram. This isn't just a bunch of blocks and pictures the platform itself actually starts to understand what you're trying to do. And what this means is that -- and I'll show you this kind of an action is that as on drawing these things, and this is a diagram, obviously, that's been built up a bit. So there's a few things in here. But I can start to say, click on the things inside the diagram. And you'll see on the right-hand side, this panel starts to react to what I've got selected. It's reacting to my context and what I'm interested in what I'm looking at. Now this means that the platform can actually start to surface design documentation, design assets, things that are relevant to you in helping you build things. You think about how people do this today, it's really up to them to go away and start finding these things, searching through websites, trying to find links and things that might be relevant with the platform that starts to come to you based on your context. So you can start to see the intelligence emerging here. The other thing that can do, I mean it gets much deeper than that. You'll see up here, we've got this little thing on the top right that says we found 595 match parts for you. Now what the system is doing is that as I've described, my design intent here, we've got this block with a few different interfaces and some connections -- in the background, what it started to do is look across all of our product portfolio as far as the RA series goes today. And it's started to come up with devices that actually fulfill those requirements. Now doing that today is a very manual thing to go and do. I've got to go and take that intent, search through wherever I've got to search through data sheets, so on and so forth and actually find things that might fulfill my needs. But here, we actually do all of that completely automatically. Now we not only do that automatically. We do it across several hundred of those devices in 1 go. And if I want to come in and change those requirements, say, for example, when I increase the number of us that I have on my design or whatever it might be, we will go away and evaluate all of those, hundreds of them, just within a few seconds and actually come up with, say, a new set of devices that fulfill those requirements. And this is really, really powerful because it means that individually users don't have to go away and kind of do that essentially one by one. Doing that one by one would be very laborious. It would take quite a lot of time ordinarily. But now the system is going away and it's doing that completely in the background. It's going a few seconds that will come up, and I'll get a list of all the devices that are essentially compatible with those requirements. And on the right-hand side, you'll see we've actually got the configuration of that device. So it's not actually just search to say, well, this might work is actually come back and said this configuration will work redesign. And that's really, really powerful because this is the deterministic nature of this model-based approach to design. So, now we've said, we've got our high-level system design here. Our robots looking like pretty reasonable. We've said from a very -- from the top, what we want this to kind of [indiscernible] do. We now get into the kind of development phase of this. So the development phase would be, for example, actually implementing hardware. So again, the whole platform connects not only in the system design part, but the hardware design and the software implementation together. So what you're seeing here, if I select this thing surrounding this blue block is actually 1 of our evaluation kits that I can bring in directly into the platform. And that evaluation, I can click on this open project here. And that will actually take us to, say, the actual model of the evaluation directly here inside the browser. I get this nice 3D visualization or that evaluation kit I get all of the reference material supporting that. So this is all the schematics, layout and all those kinds of things. And again, it gives me a great start in place from which I can start money as in from. Similarly, I can bring all of my custom hardware into this as well. So this is a custom board for that robot. And that, again, is connected directly into the platform, as you can see it here. Now let's just jump back out real quick. It's not only the hardware side of things, but it's the software side of things, too, that's also connected into the platform into this system designer. Now this is where it gets really exciting because what we can do, we can take that high-level intent that we've already kind of like put together the systems already say, understood what device I want to use and how to use it. and we can actually now generate software for the user to actually start building their end application on. Going back to what Gaurang was saying, this is really important because engineers are not now spending time doing all of the things, which I say is the grant work, the kind of boiler plate things, the things that's not particularly interesting or value-add to them, we get them past that much quicker, and we get them to focus on what they need to do, which is building their application and building that quicker. So the whole thing makes for a much nicer experience. It makes it much faster. It makes it much more enjoyable. We want people to come and use and want to use what we do and not need to use what we do. So let's just say, for example, we've completed this implementation now. Our software is there, our hardware together. I actually want to go and say, deploy this either on to an evaluation kit that might sit on my desk. Maybe as a prototype that's in the lab, it could even be something that's out in the field and later on, even production devices. And this is where we've got the full kind of operational life cycle management part in the platform. So I'm just going to go back to our solution here, and you can see I've got a few different devices connected 3 of them here. Some going to switch to 1 of those over here. And you will see that this is 1 of our balancing robots. And this defines essentially information about that robot, that robot can report back telebratory to the platform. You'll see that actually in a really nice demonstration a little bit later with robotic hand, how we're actually not only bringing back, say, a textural telemetry, but also even things like live video feed and things like that can also be brought and back into the platform. And then from here, we can also start to do things like deploy software directly. So if that thing might not be accessible, might not be sitting next to me, it might be out in the field somewhere or something like that, we can manage all of that from the platform as well. So I appreciate this is something of a whistle stop turf. And there's a lot within the platform. So it's difficult to kind of compress all of this into 10 minutes. But hopefully starts to give you guys some kind of understanding and an insight as to how we start to tie this digital thread together and weave it all together. So thanks very much for your attention and listening today. And if you like to see some demonstrations after this, be very happy to talk to you at the back afterwards. Thank you so much.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Thank you very much. SP-18 Next. Vice President and Head of UX, Ivo Marocco; and Vice President, General Manager of Analog and MaxSignal, Peter Jenkin will present, the floor is yours.
Ivo Marocco
executiveHello, everybody, and welcome. My name is Ivo Marocco. I'm head of UX or user experience Renesas. So today, after looking at the growth drivers of intelligence at the edge is 1 of our secular growth vectors for Renesas, we will dig into humanoid robotics in more details. And particularly why we believe this market is so important to us. And how we're addressing today, we will look into some of the challenges, technical challenges and how Renesas today is looking to address them and the differentiation we bring with our portfolio and especially what we're going to do in the future to establish ourselves as a credible and reliable player in the space, of course, with intent to grab a significant part of this market share. So as I said, let's take a quick look at the composition of revenue that is supporting intelligence at the edge and physical AI that are key growth drivers for Renesas. And the contribution of revenue is encompassing edge AI, smartphones, IoT devices, robotics and humanoid robotics. And our growth is actually supported by 4 foundational drivers. The expansion of intelligence is increasing demand for processors solution. These are including, of course, microprocessors, microcontrollers and SoCs. The increasing system intelligence is also driving much more content in analog, connectivity and sensors. We see also that the expansion of power and energy management is becoming critical. And this is due, of course, to the emergence of physical AI, the proliferation excuse me, of IoT devices. And this is, of course, including PMIC, battery management and GaN solutions. Lastly, with our platform approach that we have just seen, basically, we are combining components together with software, making the solution stickier, but creating also more designs, more solution, go to ready solutions that enable partners and enables also customers and users to scale and adopt faster. So let's take a look -- a closer look at the physical AI and human or robotics. So with emergence of physical intelligence is actually changing in the sense that it's interacting with real world is much more than a compute problem statement that requires pretty much low latency. It is an intelligence that interacts with the world, so has to learn from it and respond to it. And in this way, basically, what we are observing is increased complexity of how to solve this problem. And this is basically pulling more sensing, more compute, more power management, safety and reliability. All of this is to be dealt with in a very harsh environment. So robotics, in particular, we will see also humanoid robotics is the embodiment of such complexity. And of course, this is representing a shift or is driving a shift. I'm sure you all are aware of what the interaction with machines will mean moving forward. But this shift actually is also opening up a full stack silicon opportunity for us. So this is where the excitement comes from. And I think we all believe, of course, we are very well positioned to address these challenges. So let's dig into the market, why we believe the market is attractive. Let's also take a look at the challenges and the position we have to address the challenges today and what we're going to do in the future to basically continue to gain the momentum and the market share. So clearly, with the emergence of physical, the long-term opportunity is created. And we're looking at here, robotics is one of the segments that is benefiting from it. And within it, we can see also how the humanoid segment, the humanoid robotic segment stands out in terms of attractiveness. And this is where we want to play. This is where actually our strategy is aligned with the trend. We will go through the reason why in the next few minutes. But this is creating really a meaningful and this transition is really creating a meaningful unique opportunity for us to capture. So new robotics should not be seen as a single product, right? It's really a composition or an aggregation of connected system domains that each of them has their own challenges. So brain and motion sensing, actuation and motor control and power management, each of them have their demanding technical requirements. And in each of these domains, Renesas already plays a fundamental role. Let's take, for example, brain and motion. Perception data needs to be processed locally and it needs to be translated into deterministic, real-time control for rapid decisions. But where is the challenge? The challenge is that there are very tight limits from a power management standpoint, from a compute standpoint, low latency standpoint and, of course, memory. So here is where we have a fit already in offering a scalable portfolio of processors, having already experience in motor control and progressing in development of motion control solutions. We have also connectivity and a long history of functional safety that we can leverage. In sensing, low latency is not only the name of the game, but also accurate -- a very high accurate data acquisition that needs to be synchronized and turn into actionable intelligence to support real-time fast decision. And Pete Jenkins will dig into this, showing our portfolio our strategy and especially above all our differentiation. When we talk about actuation, for example, which is another of the most relevant challenges or most relevant subsystem, the focus has to be around precise and safe motor control for all the joints through the robot. So we do it through motor controlling, sensors and power devices. These are all connected together in a fiber loop really like a single system. And this is a natural fit for Renesas given the experience and given the long history of working in application, both in the industrial market and automotive market, where we solve these challenges already. And lastly, in Power Management, system efficiency is really critical. I'll touch base in a second about what evolution or humanoid robotics is really meaning. But of course, you can imagine run time for battery is going to be extremely important. So the ability of addressing these challenges with intelligent power, intelligent battery management, really taking care of handling thermal performance and heat dissipation and especially I'd say, very important, enabling and keeping the overall delivery of the power throughout the whole architecture is imperative for the functionality of the humanoid robot. So Basically, as humanoids become more capable, this becomes more important and also in margin management and empowering management in general, we do have a strong portfolio and a way forward. So today, basically, with all this, we are in the position to cover roughly 30% of the overall bill of material for humanoids. And we are doing it through all the solutions that I mentioned through the ability of providing safe and accurate control systems and system level solutions ready. As a result of it, we actually have more than 100 customers globally with -- are actively engaged with us today. But just to make sure that I make my message clear, where is this growth coming from? What is the reality behind this? So the emergence of physical AI is happening, but the evolution is something that we are going to witness very soon. And we see this -- we will see this even though there is a very strong price pressure on each component in the semiconductor world. Let's say, for example, humanoid in 2025 or even, let's say, today. They are in a very early stage. There are basically maybe around about 30 joints throughout the overall robot. There is limited functional safety and the ability of using hands is very basic as well as the fact that intelligence is very much concentrated in the brain. And as a result, they can operate very well, but in a very controlled environment. Now fast forward 10 years from now, okay, 2035, for example. And we can foresee the number of joints going much higher. So maybe 40-plus that are safety-enabled joints with more sensing capabilities, more integrated position force and tore sensing. Hence, we'll definitely develop and evolve from just bear exterior grippers to the ability to interact with the world around. And this is through an increased number of degrees of freedom, probably around about 20 degrees of freedom and more rich sensing. And intelligence, also, we will see becoming more distributed. So again, going from just the brain with architectural development of different type of way of doing it, intelligence will most likely also be distributed in joints and limbs. And as a result, this will bring better latency, better scalability and safety. And actually, this is the reason why with the growing complexity and evolution the semiconductor content will expand. And this is the reason behind the fact that we are so interested and we also already positioned to go after it. So this is why portfolio breadth matters. This is why the position we have today is already strong. We offer end-to-end coverage across motor control, actuator, network and safety and with high product solutions that are spanning from compute, power, analog sensors and so on. So as a result of this, we expect and we can claim confidently that we could go from a 30% BOM coverage today to a 70% BOM coverage in the future. positioning us to catch a disproportionate amount of market share. Having said that, I would like to now pass on to Pete Jenkins for digging into the sensors and portfolio.
Peter Jenkins
executiveAll right. Thank you, Ivo. My name is Pete Jenkins. I'm the General Manager for the Analog and Mixed Signal Product division. At sensors, our -- at Renesas, our sensors portfolio is based in a strong automotive foundation. We continue to be ranked #1 with over 30% market share in automotive SSD solutions, giving us a solid foundation in future revenue growth and market knowledge. New product intros consisting of position impedance sensing are winning designs at leading EV manufacturers and 2-wheeler companies across the globe, particularly in the U.S., India and China. Targeting motor control and sensing has been key to our success and will remain a key focus area for us in the future. However, looking to tomorrow, our fastest growth will be outside of our traditional expertise and revenue lanes. Renesas is expanding its focus into new secular growth areas and among these, advanced mobility, industrial AI and robotics, which are natural fits for our existing portfolio and maximize our technology advantages and key customer relationships. This evolution reflects a natural shift as the markets of automotive and industrial sensing start to merge. It brings Renesas to the forefront as a key supplier and innovation leader. Just to name a few examples of this, leading robotics manufacturers out of India are evaluating our solutions for use in welding applications and warehouse autonomous robots, while U.S.-based precision surgical companies are evaluating our new solutions for robotic-assisted surgery. When looking at future trends, supporting robotics and humanoid advancement, our automotive expertise carries over extremely well into this emerging market. From safety and reliability to EMI hard and in tune solutions, Renesas is well prepared to address these development needs and plan for future advancements that are required for humanoid adoption. Our newest solutions in [ imputant ] sensing and inductive position sensing are great examples of how this technology is bridging markets. The same successes our last -- our latest sensors are seeing in automotive applications like EV motor control, hands-on detection, drive-by-wire are the same technology humanoid and robotics companies need for joint encoders, force feedback and safe human contact. The duplication and reuse matters here. We are extending a proven automotive-grade platform into a brand-new market without rebuilding our R&D base. So upside and new opportunities will materialize quickly. A single vehicle uses a handful of these sensors, but a humanoid needs more than 30 joint encoders alone, which multiplies our addressable content per unit as the robotics market scales. In short, our automotive franchise derisks the technology while our robotics expertise dramatically expands the total addressable market, diversifying us beyond a single end market and into one of the fastest-growing categories in technology today. Very quickly, let's address how these technologies cross market boundaries. The force feedback we already deliver in a steer-by-wire solution is the same in a calibrated grip a humanoid needs to touch and feel. The active suspension we tune for ride quality becomes real-time contact detection at the joint or the hand and the haptic response and drive controls becomes the safe co-working behavior required when a robot operates right alongside people. It's these similarities that have triggered core robotics and humanoid companies in China to start evaluating and using our tactile solutions today. Several leading Chinese humanoid robotics companies, including major players in dextrous hand development and full body humanoid platforms have either chosen Renesas solutions already or are working with our engineering teams today on integrating these sensors into next-generation designs. So let's talk about one of those activities next. One of the wins in robotics that I want to showcase today is with Inspire, who is a leading dextrous hand manufacturer. Inspire selected our strain gauge [ SSC ] to reach human level tactility, requiring sub-1% precision and extreme repeatability. Winning a category leader validates our differentiation and tends to pull through follow-on designs across this field. The reason we won extends beyond just performance though and into system-level knowledge. Performance is obviously key, but our solution was able to reduce calibration into just a single step. It lowers our customers' cost and time to market. With DEXra's hands being extremely sensors rich, having multiple force and tactile sensors across many degrees of freedom, each win like this carries high-value content per unit and technical advantages that can't be replaced. Our goal is to have the highest performing sensing solutions on the market, but our rich sensing background with these devices enables greater benefits that we just showed here today. Examples like these are the reason Renesas sensing solutions are gaining traction in multiple end markets across the entire robotics landscape. The full analog solution surrounding our sensing platform runs extremely deep, including a refresh of standard products and basic analog and all the way to our fully customizable solutions in GreenPAK, [ Analog Pack ] and [ GreenFE ]. Add on top of that, our Forge FPGA technology that targets edge applications, Renesas is able to deliver the analog solutions to enable hardware level sensor aggregation and real-time data processing needed to excel in this space. As part of the complete solution approach, Renesas is offering our software tools for sensor and analog customization online. Our [ ICO ] tool, purpose for designing inductive sensors embedded in the PCB gives hardware engineers freedom of customization to their own solution based on size and performance. Alongside online sensor tools, our [ Goconfigure ] software hub is the key to truly unlock customizable analog hardware and in the entire family of GreenPAK products. But we're evolving from selling hardware to delivering complete solutions that are bundled together with software and tools under the new Renesas 365 framework. Pairing these core technologies allows for true platform digitalization, pushing Renesas up the value stack and targeting a broad customer landscape. Back to you, Ivo.
Ivo Marocco
executiveThank you. Okay. So as we have learned already through [ Garang ] and [ Lee ], basically at the center of this robotics ecosystem, there is the Renesas 365. Basically, it's our flexible and scalable cloud-based development platform enables developers to go from ideation to realization and eventually utilization. And this is, of course, helping customers and users to optimize virtually, eventually visualize everything in front of them before deploying everything else on the hardware itself. So this is actually enabling a much smoother path in developing products, removing a lot of friction between software and hardware and actually easing the process of integrating the software on the hardware itself. So I would like to share with you maybe a couple of minutes video that is giving a taste of the capabilities of the 365, our technology, and using 365 and our products in developing a dexterous hand. Can we play the video, please? [Presentation]
Ivo Marocco
executiveThe Renesas [ sensor fusion ] dexterous hand solution demonstrates multimodal perception. It combines vision, tactile and force sensing to enable adaptive grip control across a variety of obejcts. Powered by the [indiscernible] processor, low power [indiscernible] simultaneously run 2 cameras and models. This allows for identifying obquiredrip force while also tracking hand landmarks for human gestures. The enables tactile interaction. The [ RA2S425 ] [indiscernible] [ conditioner ] provides high accuracy amplification to identify force values in each finger. The combination of high-performance compute, vision, tactile, force sensing and AML is a powerful combination in dexterous abilities. We are able to detect different objects and apply the correct amount of grip force. Objects like cans or solid pieces of fruits or vegetables need to be gripped with greater force. Based on the object detected, we can apply different levels of force across the fingers for accurate control. A paper cup, as an example, shouldn't be deformed from grip pressure and doesn't require all the hand fingers to hold. Fragile objects like an egg require the least amount of force to minimize the chance of breakage. Being able to identify, perceive, sense and calibrate takes the Renesas solution to another level and is the launch point to other innovations in the dexterous hand space, especially in safety critical human interactions. This solution is part of Renesas 365, an integrated platform that unifies workflows and context. Each part of the solution preserves digital context from block diagrams all the way through schematics, PCs, firmware and system logic. Boards can be accessed remotely, removing local hardware barriers. Through the deployment interface, solutions are assigned to specific boards built in the cloud and pushed directly to the target device anywhere in the world. Renesas 365 includes a live metrics engine that tracks CPU utilization, power draw, processing time and frame rates. The metrics dashboard is fully customizable, letting teams add or remove indicators for debugging, performance tuning or validation. By combining solution management, remote deployment and live metrics, Renesas 365 embedded system workflow from cloud to edge.
Unknown Executive
executiveExcellent. So the demo is at the back of the room. I encourage you and invite you to familiarize yourself with that at the end. So a couple of more things before we close the segment. What is our forward strategy and go-to-market moving forward? Basically, first, we will expand our robot development kit, and this is going to be done by providing complete model conversions tool chain, software stack and operating system support to simplify the overall development across parts of the robots like joints, dexterous hand, motion and eventually brain, leveraging our portfolio, as I mentioned, of scalable processors from microcontrollers, microprocessors and [ SoCs ]. We want to accelerate the digitalization to Renesas 365 so that the development and the test can be done virtually before the deployment is done on the hardware itself. And then lastly, also, we want to take an approach where we support overall the mass market direction that Stephen has mentioned at the beginning by providing, again, a quite rich content, digital content, providing more ready-to-go solutions, more models that we will populate on the 365 and especially having a distribution focus with our collateral and with our resources. So together, these pillars help customers move faster from concept to deployment, which will directly tie eventually into our growth. So I want to basically close this segment summarizing a couple of things. First, we do believe that humanoid robotics represents an important long-term opportunity for us. And as physical AI evolves, as I mentioned before, also the semiconductor content will expand. And this plays directly into the strength of our portfolio breadth as well as our solutions across compute, connectivity, analog sensors and power. And what differentiates us is not only the breadth of portfolio, as I mentioned, but also our ability to deliver system-level solutions, software ecosystem enablement and the Renesas 365 will help us go into this direction very fast. So we believe for this reason that we are uniquely positioned to capture an increasing value of this market as it matures over time. Again, I want to thank you for your attention and continued interest in our portfolio and our journey. Thank you.
Unknown Executive
executiveThank you. Moving on, we would like to invite Zaher Baidas, the SVP and General Manager of Power. The floor is yours, Zaher.
Zaher Baidas
executiveThank you. Hello, everyone. My name is Zaher Baidas. I'm the General Manager of Power Product Group at Renesas. I'm very excited to share with you today Renesas progress in the very fast-growing and very dynamic AI infrastructure and compute market. I would like to start with an overview of our portfolio. Renesas has an impressive portfolio of products and technologies that addresses the AI infrastructure and compute market needs. We have 3 pillars of growth. First, our digital power plays a critical role by delivering the high power density and thermal efficiency required for next-generation data centers. In addition, we have been, for a long time, leading the memory interface market with technology critical to maximizing compute efficiency and addressing data bottlenecks. This is becoming increasingly important for AI inferencing. And finally, our legacy with MCU technology puts us in a great position to capture control opportunity in this market as well as analog attach. The balance of these pillars is shown in our 2025 revenue mix. Combined, they uniquely position Renesas to capture the healthy sustained demand we are seeing in AI infrastructure and compute. So AI infrastructure and compute market for Renesas includes digital power, memory interface, control plane and other analog components servicing AI servers and general servers. Over the past 2 years, we have seen tremendous revenue growth in this space. And as we look ahead, we expect to continue our momentum and grow market share with our 3 growth pillars. There are 3 compounding effects here. First, we see a huge increase in AI accelerators and CPU volumes, which means more power and more memory product. Second, our growing portfolio allows us to address more sockets in the data center for both power delivery, data and control plane functions. And finally, the architecture shift to support 800-volt DC as well as higher power demand favors our module solution that are specifically designed for AI workloads and command a higher price. All of this translates to a faster revenue growth, positioning us to achieve above-market growth well into the future. Our confidence is supported by the massive demand we've all seen for compute driven by generative AI adoption. As reported by [ Gartner ] and [ Omdia ], the data center market is expanding at a great pace with AI-specific server volume expected to more than double by 2030. What's really interesting here is that while GPUs for AI have been dominating the initial build-out, we see AI ASICs and CPU volumes growing at a faster pace as workloads shift towards AI inferencing. Since Renesas' diverse product portfolio serves AI and general server, CPUs, GPUs and AI ASICs, we stand to benefit from the overall growth regardless of the speed of transition of AI inference. It's important to note that with CPU-related power and memory interface content now growing alongside AI accelerator, the distinction between AI and non-AI is becoming learn. And as Shinkai-san answered in one of the questions in the earlier Q&A session, going forward, we will be reporting and discussing this business as data center revenue. Let us take a look at the big picture, starting with the whole power delivery path from the grid all the way down to the sub-1 volt supply on an XPU. AI incredible power demand are driving a major redesign of this entire chain. And Renesas is one of the few companies with products and expertise in every critical stage. Our portfolio today can address the high-voltage conversion from the grid, the 48-volt distribution in the rack and the core power on the board. Now as seen on the next slide, we continue to invest and innovate in power technologies such as GaN FETs and isolated gate drivers, which will allow us to capture more content as the power architecture transitions. At the same time, our memory interface technology will continue to play a pivotal role in improving speed and bandwidth of data transaction at the rack level. And we have an excellent attach opportunity with our MCUs targeting both power and control plane. Let us now spend some time to expand on each one of these growth pillars, starting with digital power. Overall, we see power content growing by over tenfold as next-generation data center packs large number of accelerators or CPUs as close together as possible. Doing so will maximize system performance but require a careful planning of power and heat management. This is not a trivial problem as next-gen racks are on pace to consume over 1 megawatt of electricity each. That's enough electricity to power over 1,000 homes just for a single [ rack ]. Now Renesas's presence in this market is highlighted in the figure on the right, showing a leading next-generation AI board where Renesas digital multiphase core power and intermediate bus converter occupy a sizable footprint. In this example, we were able to provide a total power solution, including MOSFET in the 48-volt IBC stage, which is, in this case, has a leading performance as measured by our customer in this particular board. Now supplying large numbers of accelerators in [indiscernible] require a new type of power architecture and move towards 800-volt DC. 800-volt DC reduces current, minimizes conduction loss and improve system efficiency. To address this, Renesas is continuing to invest in discrete technology. Our high-voltage BMO GaN products are ideal in the conversion stage from 800 volt down to intermediate voltage like 48 and in some cases, 12 due to its compact form factor and fast efficient switching. In addition, our bidirectional GaN switches opens the door to replacing a 2-stage architecture with a single stage for improved efficiency and cost saving. We believe these investments will continue to help position Renesas as a key GaN market leader. We also continue to invest in our MOSFET technology and deliver competitive products that are getting designed in this market. To summarize, within AI infra and compute portfolio, the main growth engine so far has been digital power. We are currently in a very strong position. Our solution gaining share with all leading market players. As each new AI generation demands a big leap in power delivery, our power modules and vertical power solution directly addresses this. It's our biggest content opportunity in this market. It's worth spending a moment to highlight the innovation in vertical power stages. Our module-based approach to this technology delivers a world-class solution that does not only deliver best-in-class performance, but also addresses some of the customers' most challenging problem, managing the SoC thermals. Our modules is 50% better than our competition at conducting heat out of the SoC. This is a clear example where Renesas system knowledge and innovation allowed us to differentiate. We did not stop there because we cannot be complacent. We know our competitors will catch up. We are working on our next generation of that module that will offer similar lead in heat connectivity. Overall, the growth equation is simple, quantity times value. On one hand, we have more XPUs being deployed over 2x growth in volume by 2030. And on the other hand, each of these XPUs require far more Renesas content, roughly 5x in power. These together create a powerful growth trajectory. In addition, we expect the shift towards agentic AI will further unlock [ increasive ] growth opportunities as we supply stand-alone CPU power rigs. Speaking of CPU growth, I wanted to highlight that our digital power growth engine is built on top of a very robust and stable memory and control foundation, the other 2 pillars of our AI infrastructure and compute growth story. As AI inference dominates and server GPU to CPU ratio decreases, we expect the volume of x86 and on CPUs to significantly grow above our current modeling. Each CPU will require RAM, making our memory interface products a key enabler of AI system scaling. As shown in the slide, our comprehensive memory interface portfolio covers all chips in a DDR modules. Next-gen data center performance will increasingly depend on efficient data movement between the processor and the memory and Renesas memory interface technology innovations are going to be critical. Finally, our expertise in MCU is well known, and we are beginning to see increased popularity of MCU-based implementation for control plane as well as power management within the server due to flexibility MCU over -- provides over other solutions such as [ FPGAs ], for example. Now it's very important to highlight how Renesas will deliver in this current environment. AI demand, as you know, can be volatile. How we scale as a company is critical. Renesas is one of the few companies that purposely built a balanced supply model. We combine our own internal manufacturing with external foundries to add capacity on demand. This gives us the agility to respond to rapid shifts while reducing execution risk compared to being a single-sourced company. With 14 manufacturing facilities in Japan, China, Southeast Asia and the U.S., we will have stable base capacity in-house plus flexible capacity through our partners. Finally, I actually -- this is one of my favorite slides, and I was discussing it with some of our guests in the break. I wanted to touch briefly on what sets us apart when it comes to working with our customers early in their design cycles. Currently, these ASIC design boards happens in parallel with the actual ASIC. There is a greater risk to customers that these boards do not behave as expected. We help mitigate that risk through an early engagement with pre-PCB modeling followed by an excellent test tool and software. We do have the test tool in the model. I encourage you to have a look at it. Basically, this test tool emulates with great accuracy the thousands of and the SoC consume, including transients. And it has an accompanying extensive suite of software for analysis and monitoring. This allows us much higher initial design quality and first pass power of success. For Renesas, digitization and UX, along with our world-class system and application teams means that we are the first to engage at very early stage in SoC development. This increases visibility into system-level challenges quite early in the design, which directly improves our DN success and more importantly, expands our attach opportunity of complementary product. And while competitors now are working on similar offerings, we have released our third generation of this hardware. In addition, we are actively investigating a path to offer these tools to a wider audience through Renesas 365. To summarize, we are living through an unprecedented market expansion as AI usage drives more power and more memory. Today, I shared how Renesas can offer not just next-generation power delivery solution but also memory interface technology. On top of that, MCU capability will also play a critical role in control plane. More importantly, with our deep automotive supply chain heritage, we are able to do so at the quality levels demanded by our customer. Ultimately, with our digitization and UX efforts, we offer a smooth design experience that helps our customer and ultimately makes our lives easier. Thank you for your time and attention.
Unknown Executive
executiveWe are moving on to Q&A session. Please give us some time to prepare the stage. And we'll have Shibata-san [indiscernible] joining this Q&A session. [Operator Instructions] So let's start with Fujiwara-san.
藤原 毅郎
analystThis is Fujiwara from Citigroup Securities. My question is about the power. I have a couple -- 2 questions on power. First question, the target for the power to have a slightly stronger growth than the market growth and gaining market share, I believe that's what's meant by this. And I'm sure there are many other competitors in this market. In order to ensure the market share in this market, what are you going to do? How are you going to ensure the market share? And what confidence do you have?
Unknown Executive
executiveWe are confident, but we cannot get complacent. It's a great position Renesas finds itself in. It came through the multiple years of innovation in this field. and our ability, as I discussed, to support customers in a very unique way with our system knowledge. So we need to continue to innovate, and we have high level of confidence that we are capable of innovating. And as long as we innovate, we should be able to continue growing in this market. It's not an easy challenge. And when I talked about the innovation we've done in vertical power stages and when I discussed our crown jewel with the modeling system and the emulation system we have, we have to continue doing that.
藤原 毅郎
analystI have one more question. This is again related to the power business. In the first half of your presentation, you talked on the AI infrastructure, but there is no major price increase, maybe not factored in for AI. But in this midterm, for the power products, what is your pricing strategy? Can you maybe elaborate on this? [ Tah-san], please?
Unknown Executive
executiveI think [indiscernible] actually mentioned that. So we will not be shy from increasing prices if the cost increases. Now this has to happen in a very, very delicate balance. Our customers today are big customers with a very, very big poll. And we want to make sure that we adjust our pricing to protect our margins while we actually protect our market share. It's a delicate balance. We are working on it every day as we speak, and we are confident we can execute.
藤原 毅郎
analystRegarding margin, on the same note, from the revenue perspective, as you see further integration, taking place, then you have more current, then ASP will be growing, right? So it looks like you seem to be selling something similar, but your unit price ASP is going up. So along with the volume from both perspective, I think that will work positively on revenue, right?
Unknown Executive
executiveNow moving on to the next question. That will be Okawa-san from Daiwa Securities.
Junji Okawa
analystI am Oka from Daiwa Securities. I also have 2 questions pertaining to power, especially digital power. In your presentation, you said that it's not going to be so easy to expand your market share in the earlier presentation session. But you are going to achieve growth this time around at a pace faster than PAM. So was there any event that allowed you to deepen your confidence? And I had an impression that you are very strong at the Board. But in order to expand your business on the rack level and higher, is there anything that you still have -- is there any missing piece? So what is your confidence coming from, especially for digital products?
Unknown Executive
executiveNow okay, then we'll start with Zaher again.
Zaher Baidas
executiveSo our confidence is high. The big piece of the story is what I mentioned with his modules. our innovation in modules, gaining market share in modules and delivering a unique vertical power stage module for our customers, which is already seeing a big traction is going to be providing us with the growth against the market. Now you mentioned other sides. We have modeled it as not a very significant growth at this point. But as I mentioned, we will continue to invest in our discrete, our GaN devices and try and address as much market with that -- with innovation.
Junji Okawa
analyst[Interpreted] Vertical power supplies -- yes. The vertical power supply, I think other companies are ahead of you in that regard. So you are going to catch up with that. So the thermal design, I think you are very good at the thermal dissipation. Why are you so strong in that space? Can you elaborate on that?
Unknown Executive
executiveIt goes back to our system engineers. So when we presented vertical power and modules last year, we got a lukewarm response. But that's what Renesas's DNA is. We try to innovate, differentiate and find a place where we can deliver power in a very, very specific innovative way. So these vertical power stage modules that we are talking about, we actually delivered unprecedented performance. And our competition are working now to actually match this performance, taking our vertical power module footprint. And as I said, we cannot be complacent. We found a unique entry to this market that we are using. That's why we are working on our second generation of this module. While the first generation is still going to samples and hasn't reached production yet.
Junji Okawa
analyst[Interpreted] Regarding -- my second question relates to memory interface. The microphone is not on. The memory interface, other companies are achieving a higher growth rate, I believe -- I'm so sorry. So this is a question relating to memory interface. All people -- all these players are expecting a higher growth than the TAM. So once again, compared to your competitors, what is your strength in memory interface? Other companies have a good portfolio of memory interface products. So they have a one-stop solution. So once again, can you elaborate why you are confident that you will be able to increase your market share in the memory interface space?
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] So for that, Pete, I think, will be responding to that question. Pete?
Peter Jenkins
executiveSo I think the question is a good one. Renesas is -- will be the only one that is a full solution provider across all the memory interface components, right? So the one-stop shop definitely applies to our core portfolio. But our key to success is being the first to sample. in every new iteration of device from DDR to MR, we're the first to sample. That's our #1 goal. That's how all of our metrics are based, right? If we're first to sample, we set the benchmark of what performance looks like and what quality looks like. So that's our goal. That's how we maintain market share, and that's how we evolve customer relationships for future growth, right? So that's key. If anything else, that's the #1 that we focus on.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] So this is a product with a standard. So it's not we are going to deliver some uniqueness with our design. But instead, the speed of execution and the quality becomes very important. In another expression, put it the other way, if you do that a good job in there, even before the actual revenue comes in, we shall be able to predict the position that we can secure in the market. If it becomes 2 generations or 3 generations ahead, we shall be able -- as long as it's generation away, it is very predictable. Our position is quite predictable. So if it's the next 3 years or so, we have -- we can talk about the story with a good amount of confidence. We cannot foresee 10 years ahead, but this is the nature of this product.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Next question. The person with the jacket over there. Now we're getting close to the ending time. So we want to make this as the last question.
Unknown Analyst
analystKojima from Nikkei CrossTek. So power and memory interface related question. So in the past, Renesas had a certain level of capability in this era. The very first with the Rocket AI infrastructure, I think we heard it was quite -- seems to be quite promising. So whether are you going to introduce new type of products? Is that what you mean? Or those strong product you had, are you trying to increase the SKUs or maybe increasing slightly performance or the capabilities or functions? Would that be the case? Can you elaborate on this point first? That's my first question. My second question is about the automotive, the cars. I have this question on the car. Sorry about asking about the car. So there are people who are driving for more than 10 years. I've been driving my car for 15 years. And it's quite long. But compared to that, AI growth is so fast. With the R5, I think we had a quite strong computing power. So I think you mentioned that you should be able to accommodate the expected evolution of AI. But when we think about the future from now on, just by updating software will be good enough to keep up with the evolution. Do you have to maybe change the hardware? Is that the other way is that the also option? I just wondered if that is also an option or not. For example, you could use -- when you're talking to OEM maker or component makers, so the hardware will remain the same. So trying to upgrade the software, is that how you're trying to reach them? Is that still the case? Or are you also talking about potentially changing hardware? Would that be also in the scope or not? That is my second question.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] The first question, first answered by Zaher. If needed, Pete can elaborate. Zaher-san, please.
Zaher Baidas
executiveSorry, I missed the beginning of it.
Unknown Analyst
analystYes. In your presentation, AI infrastructure and power and memory I think you're showing growing faster than the market, meaning that you are taking market share, right, to grow stronger than the market. But to do that, are you trying to introduce completely new products to accomplish this market share gain? Or are you thinking of utilizing existing product? And then you're trying to increase the SKUs or different products? What is the direction you're thinking to grow the business?
Zaher Baidas
executiveI think [ Shibata-san ] in his introduction did touch on that. We are not going to do something drastically completely different where we cannot differentiate and we don't have any core product. Having said that, our power heritage and memory interface heritage puts us in a place where we can do a lot. As one example we have where we said we went from SPSs all the way to module and vertical power stages. And then we will be looking at the next generation and the next generation out of that. And at one point in time, we will be working on 4 different generations, looking all the way to the future when it comes to power. And it's all about increasing the density and improving efficiency and dealing with better thermals. When it comes to memory interface, memory interface, I actually had the luxury of being involved with some of these designers based on my previous life and that was part of the analog interface. It involves everything, very high-frequency [indiscernible] a lot more complex clock management. And this applies to many things that we can do where you can -- when Shibata-san briefly talked about interconnects, that could be a place where we can actually strive because it's in our core business, our core capability and our engineers are uniquely positioned to deal with that.
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Yes. In the power business, this is slightly different from other product lineups. So to integrate many more IPs or multiple devices to be lay out on the board to build a system, that's not the only thing we can do. The factor itself is actually changing. Many -- it's not like just many more layers on the chip, but trying to increase the voltage to get closer to chip. So it's something going beyond conventional semiconductor and such an innovation is taking place in a very rapid manner. So we have a dedicated team for that. So conventional semiconductor engineer to take care of everything that's not longer happening right now. So this is quite unique area. the same product reinforcing furthermore is not the case. So almost every day, but every year, completely different product must be generated or created.
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Interpreted] So you're introducing new products at the module level?
Unknown Executive
executive[Interpreted] Yes, roughly speaking, yes, roughly speaking, at the module level, yes. For automotive, I probably I am assuming according to your question, this is my understanding, though. In the past, automotive sector, in order to ride a car for 15 years, the electronics has become quite old-fashioned even from the new car. So I've been thinking what we can do about this situation. Let's say, ECU is like a blade. And if you can reinsert the board, then we can use the new electronics. That's what I thought. But it hasn't become like that. Well, partly, Tesla is doing things like that, but it's not that easy to reinsert with something new. It's just like a battery replacement. It's how hard it is. So unfortunately, at this point of time, such an architecture is not really considered, and we haven't really heard that -- and no one has really approached us in that direction. I don't think there's no OEM looking into that possibility. I think currently, they were rather working on trying to secure enough headroom and then trying to address by updating software. But finally, we started to see that direction. But of course, we're very excited to see more to come, such a modular approach, still not seen at all right now, so it could happen.
Unknown Executive
executiveWe would like to wrap up the Q&A session because we have exceeded the allotted time. Shibata-san and others, please -- Shibata-san remain on stage. Others, please get back to your seats. So in closing, Shibata-san will give a closing remarks.
Hidetoshi Shibata
executiveYes, this has been an in-person Capital Markets Day in a while. It's been several years since the previous one. Thank you very much for your participation. Let me repeat. Of course, numbers are important, but those are results, result-related indicators. How are these numbers going to move going forward? That has to do with competitiveness. And even if we say it, you need some evidence. By talking to our executives and taking a look at the demos and samples that we have partially provided, I think you will have a better understanding of where we are headed. Up until now, be it online or in person, we have been conducting Capital Markets Day every year. And up to this point, as I responded to one of the questions, I think the way forward has become clear, at least to me. So whether having this every year or not or following our competitors having this every 2 years or 3 years or not, that is something that we would like to consider and update you in due course. I am not sure how useful this was for you. But at least, I hope you were able to feel something beyond the usual earnings calls. So some kind of leading indicator. although qualitative, I hope you achieved that at least in today's event. This year is expected to be a very strong year. So I hope to see you again at the next earnings call. Thank you for your participation today.
Unknown Executive
executiveWith that we would like to close the Capital Market Day 2026 for Renesas. Today's materials and videos will be made available in our Investor Relations website. And these will be uploaded from this evening onwards. Thank you very much for participating over a long period of time. And in the venue we will have a breakout session with some of the presenters today. If you want to ask further questions or discussions, please utilize this opportunity. If you use inter receiver, please leave that on the desk and the breakout session. If you need to leave, please be careful, and thank you again for your participation. [Portions of this transcript that are marked [Interpreted] were spoken by an interpreter present on the live call.]
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