Ros Agro PLC (AGRO) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
February 28, 2022
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, good day. I'm Konstantin, and I'm going to be your interpreter. This is a simultaneously interpreted event, and I'm going to advise you now how to proceed in your language of preference. I'll do that in both languages, then we switch on the interpretation, and you'll be able to talk barrier free. As soon as we switch on the interpretation, a globe icon will appear at the bottom of your screen. If you are joining from a mobile device such as a smart phone or a tablet, the language interpretation option will be hiding under the more menu represented by 3 dots. You need to click on the globe icon or tap on 3 dots and then select interpretation, English. [Operator Instructions].
Unknown Executive
executive[Audio Gap] pretty much equally because of the high volumes while the cash costs remained on par with 2020. The volumes have increased for beetroot, soybean and corn. You can see price dynamics in the left-hand side of the page. Now let's continue to Page 11 to discuss the same agriculture business with its key indicators across the 12 months rather than Q4 alone. The developments, however, are pretty much the same, both sales and EBITDA are on the rise pretty much equal terms for the same reason. Again, that's higher sales of mostly sugar beet and wheat. Our land bank as of the 31st of December 2021 is up from 641 to 688 hectares. Page 12 explains our Oil and Fats business in Q4. Again, we can see both EBITDA and sales growing, albeit not as significantly as was the case for agriculture. Similarly, the growth is explained by the positive market environment and industrial fats and dry whey mixes growing sales. The EBITDA remained flat in terms of its margin. This is explained by the fact that we had prices regulated during part of 2021, and feedstock prices remained somewhat higher than was the case in 2020. Page 13 explains Oil and Fats in the course of 2021, the full 12 months rather than Q4. You can see that the sales are up, but the EBITDA is not as significantly. You can see both crude oil and industrial fats have high volumes. In 2021, price regulation played as a strong factor. As you know, we sold oil at a price not above RUB 95 per bottle in the early months of 2021. The EBITDA margin went somewhat down as compared to 2020. Because of the feedstock prices, they are much higher than other elements of the sales items. Market prices for meal, sunflower and tropical oils are represented on the left-hand side in the bottom. Now over to Page 14. Let's discuss the Sugar business. Here, we see a significant boost in sales and equally significant boost in EBITDA. Production volumes are up in Q4 as compared to Q4 2020. This is driven mostly by high volumes, which is explained by higher production volumes. As I mentioned earlier, the EBITDA margin of our Sugar business is somewhat better than in the previous period due to cheaper sugar beet as feedstock. Now on Page 15, let's discuss the same sugar business over the course of the full 12 months of 2021. The sales side shows some rise and same is true for EBITDA. EBITDA margin remains rather flat relatively as compared to 2020. It's up actually by 2 percentage points. And the reasons behind it are the same as was the case in Q4. We also saw prices regulated at RUB 36 per kilo. So that meant we operated in full compliance with the requirements of our government. Page 16 discusses our meat business in the context of Q4. We see sales on the rise. However, the EBITDA is down and also production volumes are down in livestock pigs. And sales volumes are somewhat down. The EBITDA margin is also down mostly because we had to recognize the cost of our new operations in Primorye even given the fact that the revenue is not still in our accounts, the revenue from our new assets in Primorye, I mean. We hope that the situation will change in 2022 once the revenue is there. Page 17 discusses the same meat business across the full year of 2021. The sales are up by RUB 7 billion, while the EBITDA is down. And the rationale here is exactly the same. On the cost side, for Primorye registered in Q4, which explains why our margin is down for the full year of 2021. This concludes the main section of the presentation. You're welcome to ask your questions now. We normally start with questions asked online and real-time verbally. So these would be prioritized. If not, then we have a few questions in the Q&A section.
Operator
operatorSergey Beiden of Renaissance, our analyst.
Sergey Beiden
analystI understand it wouldn't be -- it would be too early to ask you any questions about future regulations or regulatory changes. I have a question about dividends, however. If your payout ratio is 7% based on your RES accounts, then I would suggest the ruble to dollar ratio that you use in calculating a dividend for 2021, that would be RUB 86.7 or so. Given the high degree of volatility, we are currently seeing in the FX market, what would you prioritize dividends in dollars which would mean a payout of more than 50% or dividends that you'll pay in April? But in dollar terms, that would be or could change somewhat depending on how the events unfold and how they affect the FX markets. What's your position? Are you in favor of a 50% payout. Well, I am more flexible in this regard. So that you can benefit from your dollar position. And another question, the dividends you announced at this contemplated rate. Have you provisioned for them? Or is it a theoretical possibility?
Unknown Executive
executiveYes, the Board of Directors has endorsed paying the dividend in the amount of 50% of the net income. However, everyone understands the situation we are currently facing. And given a huge issue with getting the currencies converted at this hour, we understand we could face certain difficulties in terms of timing for the dividend. A decision has been made, and we'll be moving in that direction, just like I said.
Sergey Beiden
analystJust a quick follow-up. There is a question on the webcast that correlates to this one. Could there be issues with Russian shareholders getting their dividend?
Unknown Executive
executiveThe situation is very complex. We all understand -- we all understand the environment, the external environment with the Swift. And working with Russian banks those that get sanctioned. So it's really difficult to answer this one. I believe that as soon as the situation gets clearer, as soon as we know what to expect and how to handle banks and banking transactions, we'll start looking into the service.
Svetlana Kuznetsova
executiveSince we don't have any further questions online, let's read those as per the Q&A section. Wording may be different, but the question is pretty much the same. What could -- what kind of an impact could you have on the sanctions on your operations, starting with exports?
Unknown Executive
executiveAs of now, it's still unclear how the sanctions could affect us because they're now very sanctions themselves, the package is not final still. The terms change, and hence, it's difficult for me to make any predictions as to how it could impact us. So we are following through on that. We're trying to carry on with operations as was the case previously. Sometimes issues arise, but there is nothing serious. Unfortunately, there are risks, of course. But the question is where the balance is achieved between the Russian economy on the one hand, and sanctions on the other. As soon as that happens with the Central Bank and potential restrictions, as soon as that becomes clear, we'll be able to understand the consequences that we're going to face.
Svetlana Kuznetsova
executiveOkay. Thank you. And one other question that is comprised of many details, but let me sum that up. Our -- the holders of our securities are obviously interested in the future of their securities. So I understand that changes happen very quickly. But what do we think about the situation? Do you have any solutions or scenarios that the company is looking into for the company to buy back or the list? [indiscernible] what's the view that the team is taking? What ideas do you have? How can we support our shareholders in this situation? So what improvements are there on the table?
Unknown Executive
executiveWell, we don't have any number attached to the solutions available on the table. Quite unfortunately, it's difficult to make a decision without the full picture on hand. So unfortunately, we cannot make a decision now because we then quite understand how the situation could potentially unfold. We're going to strive to the business as usual and trying to ensure a good performance for the company considering any significant changes towards discontinuing the listing or buying back. I don't think we can discuss any as of now. If there is a solution being discussed, we'll definitely share that with our investors so that you still have comfort.
Svetlana Kuznetsova
executiveAnd we have another question. It relates to your operations, but let's discuss in greater detail how exactly could the sanctions affect the company. Starting with exports, where we see more risk and also the feedstock, the cash cost, what we procure, where we see most of the risk given the sanctions, and how we're going to address that.
Unknown Executive
executiveOn the export side. It's mostly Oil and Fats. In 2021, we are trying to ramp up exports across the board. Bulk oil is the main product in oil and fats, but we don't see any issue now for sunflower oil or any other product of ours. We still look for opportunities to do exports, and we keep finding them. In terms of feedstock availability, well, we do have questions arising with some supplies, discontinuing their deliveries of strategic fit to us. This could relate to spares or some of the seeds on some chemicals. However, shortly before the situation started unfolding, we started looking into that, and we are confident we'll be able to find an alternative to every component, should we see it discontinued by the supplier. Okay? Question.
Svetlana Kuznetsova
executiveCould it happen that given the sanctions, the price will be on the rise and your end users would discontinue buying?
Unknown Executive
executiveI think it's too early to judge yet. So making that goal is extremely challenging because we don't understand what consequence it would lead to? We don't know the macro environment in our destination points, the situation will get stable, and we'll be able to produce some judgment. But now it's clearly for a judgment call.
Svetlana Kuznetsova
executiveOkay. I don't see any further questions. Do we see any hands rasied? No. Thank you, participants. Thank you for being able to take part in this event. [indiscernible] could not take part because she's COVID positive. But we'll be happy to run another event for you when we have more information as to what we do in the future, given the circumstances and how they evolve, and we'll be happy to arrange a broader Q&A session so that you understand better what the company is doing, and how it's going to be managed. This concludes this call. Again, I would like to thank you for taking part. Stay in good health and stay safe. Cheers. [Statements in English on this transcript were spoken by an interpreter present on the live call.]
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