Sprout Social, Inc. (SPT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 11, 2022

NASDAQ US Information Technology Software conference_presentation 26 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

David Hynes

analyst
#1

All right. I think we're ready to get gone. I'm DJ Heinz, I'm Canaccord's senior software analyst. This is the 42nd year that the firms put on this event. Thank you to all the clients that continue to support it. Thank you to the corporates. We couldn't do it without you guys. So we really appreciate that. Delighted to have Sprout Social here this morning. We have CFO, Joe Del Preto, IR and Corporate Strategy, Jason Rechel. We're trying to do this is as a fireside. If there are questions in the audience, raise your hand, we'll work it in the conversation, but I think we can get right into it. So Look, I'm going to operate under the assumption that people are generally familiar with the Sprout business. So maybe just to kind of get into it, tell us what you saw in Q2. Like what's top of mind coming off of earnings? What are the kind of the big thematic drivers and then we can unpack some of the details?

Joseph Del Preto

executive
#2

Yes. So, I think a couple of things that really stood out in Q2. One is the momentum upmarket and the mid-market enterprise continues to really build a lot of steam. If you look at our 10-K and 50,000 customer momentum, we're just really starting to resonate the platform, the ability to reach some of these larger enterprise customers. And the fact that a lot of these larger customers now really want the time to value and the ease of use for enterprise-level software continues to increase. And so that was one thing we can get into those details. But that was one area that we saw like really good momentum. And I think the other area or one of the other themes is the Salesforce relationship is really starting to get a little bit of steam, excited about what we're seeing there, the partnership there, which we can get into. Those are probably the 2 main themes we've been talking to investors about maybe a couple of other...

Jason Rechel

executive
#3

I think the other topic of conversation with investors, particularly the last couple of weeks has just been about the emergence of the social customer care use case, right? I mean, 2 years ago, we weren't sitting here talking about social care and now the most sophisticated companies, the most sophisticated of our customers are really starting to leverage teams of people to manage customer care, specifically on social and Sprout. And that's been pretty exciting to watch as well.

David Hynes

analyst
#4

Yes. Good. I have questions on all those, so we -- let's just talk about demand environment. I mean macro is obviously top of mind. I think coming into earnings, maybe there are some more reasons like hey, social discretionary. We don't know, we can't figure it out. What do you think is helping drive this resilient demand?

Joseph Del Preto

executive
#5

Yes. I think there's a couple of things for us. One is our customers, on average, spend 4 or 5 hours a day in our product. So for them, this is where they go to do their job. So it's pretty mission-critical. What we found with our customers, this isn't like a nice to have. And so you think about the alternative of not having Sprout at these organizations is now I've got my employees that are now logging back into these native networks. -- trying to share passwords. So like the whole value prop when you get rid of us, just increases, for example, the amount of expense potentially for a lot of these businesses. I think that's one thing. I think the other thing is we're 90% inbound, right? And so most of the customers coming into our funnel are coming to us already with a need or a pain point. We don't have to go out and like do this outbound sales motion during these times to convince customers who buy Sprout. -- they're already kind of in the funnel. And so from that perspective, we haven't seen that demand wane at all. And so that gives us real good indication of whether or not we're seeing kind of any macro impact. And I think the other thing is at an average ACV of around 7,500 for a lot of these organizations, we're just not a huge budget item. So if they're looking to cut costs or trying to trim back during these times. We just aren't high on that list of things that they're going to get rid of them. And you couple that with the fact that the users are in there 4 or 5 hours a day. It's just like it's just a really hard thing to kind of get rid of -- and so we haven't seen any major change in our customers' behavior.

David Hynes

analyst
#6

Yes, that all makes sense. Do you think there's any, like, hey, returns on paid marketing or getting harder not as -- wasn't as cost effective as it used to be, like maybe let's invest more in our organic social presence and stuff. Is that a driver at all? Or it's -- I don't know if it drives demand to you or maybe just more use? Like how does that impact what's happening?

Joseph Del Preto

executive
#7

Yes. So usually, what we see and it usually takes a longer time to kind of materialize in our business. But we definitely -- obviously, our platform was built for the organic side. So it's always been a hedge against that paid side. But what we see in these organizations is usually it's a different set of buyers or different set of users that are managing the paid side versus the team that's building out content and brand on the organic side. And so for a lot of businesses, if they haven't focused on the organic side, they have it, it's okay. It's not an immediate transition for them to go to organic because they might not have that muscle internally. So we think over long term, as companies maybe realize, hey, maybe paid is not going to be as effective. We need to refocus on organic, but that also means they need to refocus like what types of resources those look like, like what -- how are we going to build that function out. So I do think over like a longer period of time, it could be accretive to our business, and we've seen that. But it's not something that happens overnight because most companies aren't prepared overnight to shift, right? Their strategy was so paid focused. -- running a paid ad is a lot different than building out your organic content and tragedy.

David Hynes

analyst
#8

Yes, it's a good point. So mid-market and enterprise, we kind of led off is like one of the highlights coming out of Q2. What do you think has driven the inflection there? Is it product-driven? Is it go-to-market investment, combination of them? Like help us understand what's happening.

Joseph Del Preto

executive
#9

Yes, it's a combination of both. I think a couple of things. One is I think the product over the last couple of years, the investment we made in things like premium analytics and social listening, some of the workflows around social customer care and kind of made an investment in the product, a lot of the integrations we've built out within the platform have really kind of closed the gap up in the mid-market enterprise. There's not any functionality we don't have to win these larger deals. So I think one is on the product. So now when we go into these customers, we check all the boxes. I think the other thing is the investment we've made on the marketing and sales side. So I think historically, our marketing efforts were more broad-based. 80% of our revenue comes from organic marketing sources. We have a huge content team that's we're a thought leader in the space. And a lot of that was built out across all our customers and kind of more broad-based. But over the last probably 12 to 18 months, we've really focused more of that marketing, that product marketing towards the mid-market enterprise, right, different types of buyers towards CMOs, more executives. And then you couple that with the demand that we're seeing in the top of the funnel, so we start adding the AEs, and we start adding the sales investments. So it's a combination of the product getting us into those deals as far as like the ability to serve all those customers and then we bring that with the demand side. And so it's really been both of those things that are moving kind of in the right direction for...

David Hynes

analyst
#10

Yes. Yes. Just on the sales side, I can't remember if I told you the last night but we had a company called [ Repyou ] present yesterday, and they -- it self-reported sales guys talk about quota attainment culture, all that sort of stuff. Sprout ranked #1 on all the sales metrics that they were tracking. So I thought that was an interesting, good validated point figures.

Jason Rechel

executive
#11

We actually know the team at Rep pretty well. We've had a few conversations with them. So it's awesome to be validated by them.

David Hynes

analyst
#12

Yes. So kudos to you guys. let's talk about customer mix a little bit, too, right? As part of this enterprise shift, I think investors used to key on like net new customer adds is an important metric for you and you guys. I know you don't manage the business to that, but the mix -- with the mix shift, it's kind of changed a little bit, right? Like you hit your ARR numbers with lower customer adds. So just talk about a, generally customer mix and then b, kind of the KPIs and how we should be thinking about them.

Joseph Del Preto

executive
#13

Yes. When we think about customer mix like the logos, like internally, we don't have any internal goals or metrics around like a number of customers. So each of the sales teams and all the marketing teams are all like comped on ARR, right? And so internally, the focus is we want to make sure we're getting to the highest quality customers. And when -- the way we do that is through our inbound funnel, we score all the trials that are coming in, and we understand where the highest value ones are versus the low value. And the higher value ones are based on the dollar, like outcome of that trial, not so much, hey, we just want to add customers. And so because of that, the quality of the funnel continues to increase. And so as we get into these more mid-market enterprise, we might have less customers, but that's by choice. And so that's kind of how we manage internally. Our sales teams are on monthly quotas, right? And so every month, they're incentivized to close deals. Like I said, they're all on ARR quotas. And so internally, our focus is more on the ARR side of the business and just making sure we're getting quality customers versus just volume.

David Hynes

analyst
#14

Yes. Yes. Any update on like what ARR mix looks like? I mean, I think we used to talk about is almost like a quarter, quarter, quarter, SMB, mid-market enterprise, agency. What does that look like today?

Joseph Del Preto

executive
#15

Yes. So it's definitely shifted. So mid-market enterprise are probably 65% to 70% of our business now combined pretty evenly split Enterprise is a little bit higher. The SMB business is in the mid- to high teens and the agency business is like in the mid-teens. So it's definitely shifted away from the SMB and agency more up into the mid-market.

David Hynes

analyst
#16

Let's dig on some of the product stuff. I mean we talked about social customer care is an important growing category. You guys alluded to doubling down or that's my words, not yours. -- investing more in that area. Like what are you seeing in the field that's telling you like, hey, this is the right bet to make?

Jason Rechel

executive
#17

Yes. So I think some of the things that we see from customers, right? I mean, if you think about what social care is, right, I mean, typically, our customers will start with the marketing use case, right? And when you think about your organic social strategy, how am I going to publish content, right? And so you get a marketer, potentially teams of marketers, right, brand marketers, content marketers that are leveraging Sprout to execute your organic publishing strategy. And all of a sudden, that drives customers to your properties on social, right? It drives customer care requests and product requests and feedback and all of these things. And all of a sudden, the marketing team says, "Wait, this isn't what I was necessarily hired to do, right? I was not hired to converse with customers on social. And so the organization all of a sudden, takes a step forward and says, "All right, we need to dedicate resources to social customer care. And I think for a lot of organizations, you've started to see that shift pretty recently where a customer service department or a set of teams might be organized around phone and chat and e-mail and now all of a sudden, the more sophisticated customers have dedicated teams for social customer care. And that's really exciting. Obviously, that's a big market, right? There's a lot of headcount there, a lot of seat opportunity there. And when you think about what we've -- the way we've architected the product, right, it's really a unified platform for the marketing team, the product team, the customer service and sales teams to all live in one platform in one place so that when a tweet comes in, it gets routed to the right place when you run a marketing campaign and there is feedback or customer service requests as part of that, the marketing team can see when a customer service agent or teams have resolved an issue, et cetera. And so we've really architected the platform to play really nicely into the emergence of that use case.

David Hynes

analyst
#18

Yes. And do you think there are like additional modules that you'll be able to offer around social customer care? Or is it more -- we get the seat count expansion, we get probably social listening pulled into it. Like how does it translate into what it means for your business?

Jason Rechel

executive
#19

Yes. So we've said potentially over the next 6, 12 months, there could be enough functionality in the platform where we start to carve that out for a specific care use case or care module. And this is pretty consistent with the way the product has evolved historically. If you think about the way we brought premium analytics to market a couple of years ago, we'd always had analytics in the core product and then all of a sudden, we started to feel like we were putting more value into the product than we were monetizing. And so we carved out a separate premium analytics SKU. And I think when you look at all the work we've done with respect to the specific care use case to this point, when you think about message routing and automation and SLAs, there's functionality now that's in there that may be more optimized for a dedicated agent or customer care representative. So we'll certainly evaluate what that path looks like over the next 6, 12 months?

David Hynes

analyst
#20

Yes. The premium add-ons, just remind folks like what that does to ASPs, how material it is to the business? And the traction you're seeing, is it more at land? Like are we landing with more functionality? Or are you having luck going back into the basin selling the sum?

Joseph Del Preto

executive
#21

Yes. So it's -- the data point on your first question is, so when we land a customer and they have at least one of the premium add-on modules, the ACVs of those deals are about 6x a deal that doesn't have it. And that's a combination of not just the value of the add-on, but also the additional users that brings because you have to be a core user of Sprout to get access to the add-ons. So usually, it also brings a decent number of user seats with it, which is really exciting. And so from that perspective, we think that the opportunity there is really a combination of -- to your second question, it's probably pretty slip between new business customers coming in and saying, "Hey, I want the whole I want one of those add-ons versus right now, the existing customer base. The bigger opportunity we think right now is in the existing customer base with 33,000 customers. And the thing is we've seen SMB up and through enterprises adopt these premium add-on modules. We've seen really sophisticated SMB businesses that really run their business on social that are using premium analytics and social listing because it's key to their strategy, right? It's really hard for them, sometimes to compete in the world of Google Search and being like on the paid side. So the way they've really built their brand is around social organically. And so these additional modules really help them. So we think that right now, it's probably split between new customers and existing as far as where we're adding it, but we think there's a much bigger opportunity, at least in our existing customer base to grow that.

David Hynes

analyst
#22

Yes. Yes, makes sense. One more product, and then I want to talk about Salesforce. -- lots of optimism around social commerce as well. Talk about where you guys are participating in that, what the future opportunities might look like, that sort of stuff?

Jason Rechel

executive
#23

Yes. So our social commerce offering we introduced in June of last year with initial integrations into Shopify and Facebook Shops. We've since added WooCommerce to the platform. And when you think about social commerce, really, we want to give our customers a single platform to manage and execute their social commerce strategy, right? And so when you think about what that means, right, it's how do I best optimize, how do I best sell a product or set of products on social media across whatever networks matter most to me, right? And so by integrating into Facebook Shop, Shopify, you can now manage things like your product catalog, inventory inside of Sprout, have real-time visibility into those things and then be able to execute on your marketing campaigns, all of your presale motion to drive volume, drive traffic and ultimately, customers to purchase your products on social. All of that presale motion are already the things that we do and are really great at on social, right, marketing campaigns and publishing. And when we think about everything post sale, right, from a customer service perspective, Presumably, if I buy a product on Instagram, I'm going to come to your brand on Instagram with a product question or return or logistics question. And so all of that post-sale customer engagement already happens in Sprout, and we think we're perfectly suited to help customers with that. And then when you wrap analytics around that, right, ultimately, you don't care whether you sell a product on Instagram or Pinterest, -- you just want to sell as many products as efficiently as possible. And so our analytics engine would help you optimize for that experience. And so the one thing that we don't necessarily want to do right now is -- play a role in the actual transaction. And so we're kind of agnostic to how that transaction processes occurs. We just want to help you manage all of the things around that and be agnostic to whether your Facebook is managing the transaction locally or whether it's on Shopify or wherever. And so that will certainly evolve. And as all of the networks evolve their social commerce strategy over the next 12, 24, 36 months. we think we're really well suited to help play a big role there.

Joseph Del Preto

executive
#24

Yes. And DJ, I think the key there is we're really early as far as where we are -- and the main reason for that is because a lot of these social networks, if you go to most networks now and you see a -- like a product on there and you click out and you go to another URL, you leave the social media website. Social commerce is where you don't leave, right? And so that's where a lot of these networks still haven't figured out how did that closed loop transaction out of the network. Once they figure that out, that's what we're working with them on, then I think what you'll see from us is I think you'll see a lot more momentum on the social commerce side. Right now, Facebook Shops and Shopify, the farthest along, but as these other networks come to market with their products, then we'll be able to potentially wrap that into a much larger offering. It's just like we're really just moving at the pace of the networks, right? And so I think that's why we think it's still a couple of years out before this becomes a bigger part of like the social commerce ecosystem.

David Hynes

analyst
#25

Yes. Yes, that makes sense. Let's move on to the Salesforce opportunity. Maybe we have folks who aren't aware of kind of what's been announced and we can just start there. Talk about what Salesforce has said about social studio and what it means for Sprouts?

Joseph Del Preto

executive
#26

Yes. So back in March of this year, social -- Salesforce announced that they were going to sunset Salesforce Social Studio by the end of 2024. So a pretty long time horizon. And then they also at the same time we jointly announced that we would be the preferred social solution for all their customers. And so what does that mean? So what that means is any time one of the Salesforce studio customer comes up for renewal, we have like a shared slack channel with the Salesforce team and our ease are conversing and so they're bringing us into those deals as they come up for renewal. And so we get pretty excited the success we saw in Q2. Their team has done a really good job bringing us into those deals. Our win rates are almost close to 100% when they bring us in. And so we just think it's a pretty good opportunity over the next couple of years. What we don't know, as you can imagine, is Salesforce keeps a lot of these contracts pretty close to the vest as you can imagine. And so we don't know how that's going to play out over the next couple of years, what we can tell. A lot of their customers are in multiyear deals. So we think it's going to be a nice, slow and steady to the end of 2024 as these contracts come up for renewal. We're pretty early innings in that part of the contract. So that's exciting. I think the more exciting part about the relationship as part of this is a lot of their very heavy social studio sophisticated users had this direct integration into Service Cloud. That was one of the big value props of Salesforce studio was that you could also have this integration to Salesforce Studio. And so then you could do all your social customer care, all in one spot. Well, one of the things that the Salesforce team came to us was like, hey, in order for us to transition these much more sophisticated customers, we need to build an integration between Sprout into the Service Cloud Council into native objects, and we want to give you the ability, and we'll do the work on our end to have this unique kind of integration that no one else in the market will have, and that will allow you to move over these more sophisticated customers. So we've been working on this integration into service cut that will be, in our mind, Sprout will be the preferred social customer care solution for their overall service cloud offering. And so we think not only will that unlock the social studio customers that have that integration, but the other, let's say, 100,000 plus social -- or service cloud customers at Salesforce. So we think that's a much longer-term larger opportunity is if we're the preferred social customer care solution for all their customers.

David Hynes

analyst
#27

Yes, yes, yes. So you guys have -- you did -- I think you said 25 of the Social Studio migrations in Q2. Just talk about like the profile of that customer versus your core customer and then roll that up and to kind of sizing just on Social Studio, I won't ask you to size the big sales just that Social Studio opportunity.

Joseph Del Preto

executive
#28

Yes. So what we can see right now, most of their customers that we've seen fall in that $10,000, $50,000 bucket on our end, so much higher than our $7,500 ACV. So they're definitely up in that mid-market and enterprise from what we can tell so far. We estimate they have between 3,000 to 4,000 Social Studio customers. And so if you take those -- you can kind of do the math on, hey, if you have 3,000 to 4,000 at those $10,000 to $50,000 ACVs, we think it's a pretty large opportunity. Now obviously, we're still pretty early in it. but those are the kind of deals we're seeing right now.

Jason Rechel

executive
#29

Yes. Yes. And I was only able to wrestle away logo rights of 3 of those 25, but Gordon Food Service, Athenahealth, Sunoco, big enterprise brands, right, and I think indicative of the type of companies that are on Social Studio today.

David Hynes

analyst
#30

And I think you said it's primarily happening at renewal, right? Is there any effort or ability to kind of control that time line on your end? Or is it just really dictated back kind of Salesforce and the sales relationship...

Joseph Del Preto

executive
#31

Yes, they don't share the contract's data with us. We only know when they brings us in. So it's really hard for us to kind of control like doing anything outside of when that renewal is up or when they actually let us know -- because a lot of times, it's also -- most of the time, it could also be wrapped up in a larger enterprise agreement. And so obviously, if you're a Salesforce, you're not trying to like -- you don't want to renew that sooner than you have to. And so from that perspective, we don't have a lot of control...

Jason Rechel

executive
#32

Well, and the other point, DJ, here is Salesforce has been great partners in bringing us into a lot of these renewals, and we want to be great partners back to Salesforce, right? And so we don't necessarily want to be chipping away at the customer base until that contract is up for renewal -- and so we'll work closely together with them to make that transition pretty seamless.

David Hynes

analyst
#33

Yes. Yes. What's the philosophy on like taking price? I mean this is not the kind of environment where you put the screws to your customers. However, we talked about ASPs are pretty low, and you guys are delivering a lot of value. How do you think about the trade-off between more functionality, raising prices? Like have you done price increases in the past? What do you -- just...

Joseph Del Preto

executive
#34

Yes. So we haven't done -- like we've never increased price on the existing customer base, and that's something we've always just kind of been as part of our customer loyalty side. Now what we have done over the years is increase like the low end part of our plan. So for new customers, we, over time, have slowly increased the price to come in the joining price of Sprout. I do think there is opportunity. We're inbound funnel. We have our pricing outside of the high end of the enterprise, posted on our website. So most customers that are coming in understand the cost ahead of time. So we don't have -- there's not a lot of like price discovery questions that we're dealing with, with our customers. What I would say, though, is we do think there's opportunity, especially up in the mid-market enterprise with some of the -- if you think about all the functionality that we've been putting into the core, some of these advanced modules, there's a lot of value out there. And so I do think you'll see us potentially look at pricing and packaging over the next couple of years, new modules, different ways to price some of our premium products. But I think there's upside, the willingness to pay we found with our customers is probably a little bit higher than what we're charging right now -- but we want to also be very aware of the situation that's going on out there. And so I don't -- we want to always be balancing those 2 things. But I don't think you're ever going to see us do like, okay, all our customer price goes up 5%, like that's just never been a sprout thing. So I don't ever doing something like that.

David Hynes

analyst
#35

Okay. One of the numbers, just look, as we kind of talked through all these opportunities, right, with Social Care and commerce and Salesforce -- there's a lot you could be investing in, right? So how do you think about margin operating leverage from here and balancing that with growth?

Joseph Del Preto

executive
#36

Yes. So I think we're really confident in the guidance we've given, which is we think we can drive 100 to 300 basis points operating leverage in this business through 2025 every year. And we feel like because we have such good data on the sales and marketing side, and we really run the business on the unit economics of it. We could understand where the pockets of investment need to go with 30- to 45-day sales cycle. We get very quick like return, and we understand what's working and what not. And so historically, this has always been a business that has been very responsible in the way that we've grown. We've never been a company that's burned a bunch of money just to grow the business. We've been very steady. We've driven operating leverage in this business, I think, every year for the last 4 or 5 years and still being able to maintain these really high growth numbers. And I think a lot of that just has to do with our go-to-market strategy and the kind of the way we run the business. So we feel pretty confident to be able to still drive the growth numbers we've given out and drive leverage in...

David Hynes

analyst
#37

Yes. And you've been solidly free cash flow profitable for a while now.

Joseph Del Preto

executive
#38

6 quarters now. So we feel like we've got a lot of momentum there as well.

Jason Rechel

executive
#39

Yes. Yes. He hasn't been counting...

David Hynes

analyst
#40

Last one, and I've been asking all of our companies that's just kind of as a concluding thought. Like what's something you think investors might still underappreciate about the Sprout story.

Joseph Del Preto

executive
#41

Yes. I think what -- and Jason can give his thought. My thought is I think people don't understand how early we are in the adoption of platforms like Sprout in the market. There's 200 million businesses on social, and we're like single-digit penetration. And so as consumers we've been using social for a very long time, but from a business utility or a business strategy standpoint, we're like early, early innings. I don't think investors understand that we're just getting started in this category.

Jason Rechel

executive
#42

Yes. And this dovetails with how early we are as a category, but just how horizontal our platform and social is across most of our customers, right? And you go back a few years ago, our primary customer was probably the social media manager who might have been the intern on the marketing team. And now you're selling to that person, that social media manager is the VP in the Marketing Board or managing teams of people, and you're selling to brand marketing and content and PR and corporate comms and IR teams and social customer care and product teams and then think about all the analytics from the data that you can pull from social to inform product strategy and business strategy, right? And so it truly does just cut really horizontally across most businesses now, which speaks not only to how early we are, but also to how large the opportunity can be.

David Hynes

analyst
#43

Yes. That's a great point. I think we'll leave it there. Congrats on all the success and the resiliency in the business and look forward to keeping tabs on progress.

Joseph Del Preto

executive
#44

Thanks, -- that's great. Always a pleasure. Thank you very much.

Jason Rechel

executive
#45

Appreciate it.

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