Star Cement Limited (STARCEMENT.BO) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 6, 2025
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Star Cement Q2 and Half Year Ended FY '26 Earnings Conference Call ended 30th September,, hosted by PhillipCapital India Private Limited. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Vaibhav Agarwal from PhillipCapital India Private Limited. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Vaibhav Agarwal
analystYes. Thank you, Sagar. Good evening, everyone. On behalf of PhillipCapital India Private Limited, we welcome you to the Q2 FY '23 Earnings Call for Star Cement Limited. On the call, we have with us Mr. Tushar Bhajanka, Deputy Managing Director; and Mr. Manoj Agarwal, CFO of Star Cement. At this point of time, I will hand over the floor to Mr. Tushar Bhajanka for his opening remarks, which will be followed by remarks from Manoj Ji, and then we can have the Q&A. Thank you, and over to you, Tushar. Thank you.
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveHi, good afternoon all. My name is Tushar Bhajanka, and I'm the Deputy MD of Star Cement. I welcome you all to the conference call of FY '26 quarter 2. I will hand -- I will like Manoj Ji, the CFO, to give his remarks regarding the numbers, and then we can start the Q&A.
Manoj Agarwal
executiveYes. Hi, friends, very good afternoon. I, on behalf of Star Cement Limited, welcome you all to our con call for discussing our number of Q2 FY '26 and half year ended September '25. I would like to clarify that we are discussing on the historical numbers, and there is no invitation to invest. Having said that now, I will just take you through the Q2 number followed by half year numbers. Starting from clinker production during the quarter ended September 2025, we have produced 9.18 lakh tons of clinker as against 6.58 lakh tons same quarter last year. So far as cement production is concerned, we have produced 10.83 lakh tons this quarter as against 9.55 lakh tons same quarter last year. Now I will take you through the sales volume. During the quarter, we have sold 10.7 lakh tons of cement and 1.01 lakh tons of clinker as against 9.62 lakh tons of cement and 0.15 lakh tons of clinker in the same period last year. This is as far as cement and clinker sale is concerned. As far as geographical distribution of cement is concerned, in Northeast, we have sold around 7.64 lakh tons as against 7.49 lakh tons during same quarter last year. As far as outside Northeast is concerned, we have sold 3.09 lakh tons of cement this quarter as against 2.13 lakh tons same quarter last year. In terms of blend mix, it is almost 16% of OPC and rest is PPC. These are the quantitative numbers of the quarter. Now I will take you through the financials. The total revenue figure for this quarter is around INR 811 crores as against INR 642 crores same period last year. As far as EBITDA figure is concerned, this quarter, we have done an EBITDA of around INR 194 crores as against INR 97 crores last year. Profit after tax is INR 71 crores as against INR 6 crores in the same period last year. On per ton EBITDA front, it is INR 1,650 during this quarter as against INR 995 per ton same quarter last year. This is what our quarterly numbers of second quarter. The total revenue figure for the half year ended September '25 is around INR 1,723 crores as against INR 1,393 crores same period last year. As far as EBITDA figure is concerned, during half year ended September '25, we have done an EBITDA of around INR 424 crores as against INR 215 crores last year. Profit after tax is INR 169 crores as against INR 37 crores in the same period last year. On per ton EBITDA front, it is INR 1,715 during the half year ended September '25 as against INR 1,000 per ton same period last year. These are the quarterly and half yearly numbers. Now I request all of you that if you have any queries, you can ask the same, and I will request Vaibhav to moderate the query wherever it requires. Thank you. Vaibhav?.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Or first question comes from the line of Amit Murarka from Axis Capital.
Amit Murarka
analystThe first question I had was on your expansions at Silchar and Jorhat. Could you throw some light on the update? What is the progress and the time lines for the same?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveFor Silchar project, we are planning to commission it in the next 3 months. We should be able to commission it by January in the next calendar year. And for Jorhat, we have acquired the land. We have applied for the permission. We are looking at the demand supply situation right now and then trying to take a call about Jorhat. It may -- we may announce a deferment of Jorhat project by a year. Instead of Jorhat, we have also started acquiring land in Bihar. There is a very lucrative scheme which has come in Bihar, which is offering 300% SBFC benefit in Bihar for whoever sets up the plant in Bihar. We are looking at East market of Bihar, specifically Central and East market, and we have identified a plot in Begusarai, which we will pursue and try to put up a plant there, and we'll come up with an assignment in the next quarterly meeting.
Amit Murarka
analystWhat will be the size of the Bihar plant? What will be the capacity of the Bihar plant?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveThe capacity that we're planning to put up is about 2 million. What really happens is that rather than putting up more capacity in the Northeast immediately, we will be able to cater to a larger market of Bihar. Given the SBFC benefit that we get along with it, it becomes decently viable.
Amit Murarka
analystJust a thought over there, like isn't the Bihar market right now seeing intense competition like with JK Cement entering the market and simply, the pricing in the market has been in a tailspin. While incentives might be there, but just to understand that part.
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes. No. Of course, Bihar market because it is the fastest-growing market in the East India, it is -- people have anticipated that put up capacity accordingly, but because of the size of the market, first of all, we are only putting 2 million, and we already sell about 6 lakhs, 7 lakhs in Bihar market. We will try to create the market using a plant in Bihar and then put up a grinding unit in Bihar so that our capacity utilization from the very first year is better. Also, we're talking about 2 years later. The scenario of the market right now may not be the same after 2, 3 years. I think that is also a function.
Amit Murarka
analystWhat is the incentive that you mentioned that you get in this?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveBihar has come up with a new industrial policy, where you are eligible for 300% SBFC benefit. Whatever you sell in Bihar, you get the SBFC benefit also.
Amit Murarka
analystJust quickly also on the incentive that you booked in the quarter.
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes. We had booked about INR 56 crores in the quarter as incentive.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Navin Sahadeo from ICICI Securities.
Navin Sahadeo
analystI just wanted to understand in terms of your CapEx priorities now, what is -- like if you can just help us understand the priority. Is it the Jorhat grinding unit? Is it the Bihar grinding unit if like approvals or whatever land that you're looking at, that is a priority or the North region that we are looking, that is – the where we had some limestone mines. that is a priority. If you could just help us understand that?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveThank you for the question. Right now, after we commission Silcher, which is in the next 3 months. Hopefully, by the time we are having our next call, Silchar plant should be commissioned. Our priority will be to -- from a Northeast perspective or East perspective, our priority will be to put up the Bihar grinding unit. We've already acquired -- we have already gotten the approval from the government. We have already acquired the land also in Jorhat but we are testing [indiscernible] the project for a while because we are already getting a Silchar project up and running. I think that will give us enough capacity for Northeast. We are looking at Bihar just from a better capacity utilization of clinker perspective and also expanding our geographical reach perspective. Coming to Rajasthan in North, we had acquired mine in Jaisalmer, which was actually one of the largest mines in Jaisalmer at the lowest -- one of the lowest premium as well. Then we had also acquired mines in Nimbol area, which is Central Rajasthan, right? We are acquiring land also in Nimbol. We are trying to acquire the plant land also, the mines land also. Then we are looking at some other mines, which are non-option mines in Nimbol so that our cost of limestone will be lower once we start the plant. We plan to put up about 4 million tons in Rajasthan and Haryana, right? That is a natural expansion that we are working on. Right now, we have not come up with a very decisive presentation mainly because we are still acquiring land, we're still trying to figure out the difficulties of the terrain. In the next 5 years, if you ask me what the plan is, I think our plan involves putting up a plant in Bihar for sure, also a plant in Jorhat eventually. Our plan involves 4 million tons of clinker plus grinding in Rajasthan area. Then it, of course, involves eventually to put up another clinker plant in Northeast, which will be most likely in Umrangso area, which is Assam. For Umrangso area, we have already acquired the land. We have already acquired the mine plan. We have already acquired the permission for mining.
Navin Sahadeo
analystJust to confirm, in the scheme of things, your first priority now is a grinding unit in Bihar. Second will be Rajasthan. Third will be then Jorhat, meanwhile or Jorhat can possibly be the #2 priority.
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes. I think our plan is, like what you said, Bihar, along with Bihar around the same time line, we are also trying to work on Rajasthan so that we can ground break and start our commissioning. At the same time, we are getting our permissions for the Umrangso clinker plant. It may take 1, 1.5 years to get those permissions, so we've already applied for it. First, we'll put up the Bihar and we'll start working on the Rajasthan plant, and after that, we put the Umrangso plant along with the Jorhat plant.
Navin Sahadeo
analystBasically, for Jorhat now to happen, we need a potential clinker line from Umrangso. As of now, the existing clinker will use towards Bihar grinding unit and existing other units. Is that correct?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes. For that Umrangso plant, we have already also acquired the land, the full land of the mine, land of the plant. We've also won an option mine, which has about 180 million tons reserve at about 57% premium, which is not very high given the margins in Northeast. We have already started with our work with basically getting other permissions there, EPV and other permission.
Navin Sahadeo
analystSir, as far as your Rajasthan expansion is concerned, I believe Nimbol will be a priority over Jaisalmer, right? Or it's the other way around?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveWe are also just still deciding, but yes, on the face of it, Nimbol does seem to take priority over Jaisalmer, mainly because we wanted to enter north from a geographical location, which is a bit more central, so that we are able to cater to market more effectively. Jaisalmer, we had gotten that mine just from a future prospect that our second or the third line could be in the future in Jaisalmer because Jaisalmer in the next 3, 4 years, like you may already know from other commentaries of other cement companies is going to be a big hub. It's the future deposit for serving the entire north. We just thought that if we can, we should lock a mine in Jaisalmer itself.
Navin Sahadeo
analystMy second question then was about your incentives, because in the GST rate cut regime, of course, there can be a decline in the annual accrual of the GST. If you can just, first of all, understand what was the GST booked in Q2 of -- what was the GST booked in Q2 of FY '26? Then if you could just take us through what -- how should one look at this accrual now from a quarterly run rate or from an annual perspective? Also, just a clarification, if the total incentive pool also gets shrink because of this GST rate cut or we can get an extension period over there. It's only the time lag and not the total incentive pool which gets compromised. Clarity this would really help.
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes. I'm happy to provide the clarity on that. Basically, of course, the GST percentage came down, because the GST percentage came down, the SGST percentage has also come down. Hence, the reimbursement of that benefit has also come down. The impact that we feel that we'll have on the overall volume will be of about INR 130 to INR 150 per ton, so that is the impact that we feel that we'll have. That is the impact. Of course, the quantum of the benefit, which is fixed basis the CapEx that we do remains the same. I think the pace at which we consume the benefit anyway is 5 years, and we have gotten time for 15 years. The benefit that we would have otherwise accrued in 5 years may get postponed to sixth or the seventh year. We don't have to get any extension on the time line of the benefit because anyway, we have 15 years, which is more than enough for us.
Navin Sahadeo
analystRoughly, 130 million to 150 million ton impact is all that will come to us. That lag impact and not the total sales.
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes. It's more of a time value.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Shravan Shah from Dolat Capital.
Shravan Shah
analystSir, just again clarifying on what right now we have discussed. First on the CapEx front. Now in 1H, we have done INR 211 crores, INR 212-odd crores. For full-year of FY '26, '27 and maybe possible for FY '28, what kind of CapEx we can look at? There also, if you can specify if we go for a Nimbol 3 million clinker and 4 million grinding. Previously, I think we have said INR 2,400 crores, INR 2,500 crores, so will it remain the same?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveSorry, can you repeat the last part?
Shravan Shah
analystI said that for Nimbol, if you go for a 3 million ton clinker, 4 million ton grinding, last time, I think we were looking at INR 2,400 crores to INR 2,500 crores CapEx total. Will it remain the same?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes, I think that broadly remains the same, about INR 2,400 crores, INR 2,500 crores for Nimbol. Again, I'll get back to you with the exact projections and everything else. Once we are completely decided at the promoter level, we'll also share a presentation of what we're thinking so that the investors really transparent to the investor how the expansion is going to take place. Answering your first question regarding the CapEx that we plan to in FY '26, remaining of FY ’26, plan to entail -- we plan to fuel about INR 500 crores of CapEx in FY '26 -- in the remaining of FY '26, mostly will be going and completing the Silchar project. Then we are also putting up a solar power plant, which is about 2 megawatts in Assam. We have already acquired the land for that as well. I think, so that INR 500 crores is broadly split between Silchar and the solar power plant in Assam.
Shravan Shah
analystSir, just to again clarify. In 1H '26, we have done INR 211-odd crores, another INR 500 crores in second half. Total put together, INR 710 crores, INR 720-odd crores that we are looking at for full-year of FY '26?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes, exactly. This includes the major item in this is the Silchar plant, and it also includes the solar plant and it also includes the land that we have bought in Umrangso in Bihar and in Jorhat.
Shravan Shah
analystFor next year, FY '27 and maybe for FY '28, given, let's say, if we go by what we are saying, we have 2 million tons and then the 4 million ton Rajasthan and maybe Jorhat also. In that sense, how much one can look at CapEx?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveFor that, I have to get back because for that, I have to first qualify my expansion plan and then only will it be fair for me to give numbers and throw numbers out. I think we will -- what we'll do is that in a month, I think we should be able to gather information and make a presentation. In a month, 1.5 months, we post the presentation, so that which will have all the details, which will have a lot of other details as well so that your question is answered. Right now, I don't think it will be fair for me to discuss.
Shravan Shah
analystBut still a broader level, 2 million ton grinding in Bihar would be broadly the CapEx would be how much? INR 300 crores?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveNo, I think CapEx for 2 million tons is more than that. I think it would be about INR 500 crores, including the price of land.
Shravan Shah
analystIn terms of time line, if we start, let's say, whenever in the next 3, 5 months, it should be commissioned by FY -- first half of FY '28, 2 years down the line?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes, that is what our target is.
Shravan Shah
analystSir, now coming to the -- on the volume front. Last time we said we are looking at 5.4 million to 5.5 million tons for this year. We have already done a decent 16% kind of a growth. That number for full-year remains, say? Or is there a possibility of some upgrade in volume?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveNo, I think the number broadly remains the same. October was a good month. That gives us some confidence that going forward, probably the next quarters will be good. Again, I think on a conservative basis, I think we'll be able to meet our targets. We have also given an EBITDA estimate as well of about INR 1,500 per ton to INR 1,550 per ton, but given how it is going, I think the EBITDA is a bit more healthier than what we have set.
Shravan Shah
analystIn terms of now full-year, though you said INR 130, INR 150 per ton incentive impact will be there because of GST. On an absolute basis, if we have to look at for full-year of this FY '26, I think last time, we were looking at INR 230 crores to INR 250-odd crores in 1H, we have already done close to INR 118 crores, INR 120-odd crores, so how much one can look at on an absolute basis?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveAre you talking about EBITDA?
Shravan Shah
analystNo, incentives, sir.
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveI think we may be looking at about INR 180 crores, INR 190 crores.
Shravan Shah
analystLastly, sir, a couple of data points. Trade sales, premium sales, lead distance, kCal and if possible, the fuel mix.
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes. Trade sales is 80% Premium sales is about 13.1%, the lead distance is about 230 kilometers.
Shravan Shah
analystAnd kCal?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveFuel cost is INR 1.25 per kCal.
Shravan Shah
analystThere is a decent decline from INR 1.35 to INR 1.25 Q-o-Q. This number will remain in third quarter, similar?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes, I think the third quarter should be broadly similar. I don't think there's a [indiscernible].
Shravan Shah
analystIn terms of fuel mix, spot contract, FSA and Nagaland coal?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes, mainly it was FSA only. I think 80%. Then rest was broadly biomass and other sources of coal.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Parth Bhavsar from Investec.
Parth Bhavsar
analystSir, I had questions on competition in the Northeast region. I wanted to -- like -- so basically, Ambuja has bought a lands and mines in the region. I wanted to understand like how do you see the competition coming up over the next 2 years? Have they like acquired any land to build a plant? Are they eligible for incentive scheme in the region?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveWhat I know is that, of course, they have one mine in auction I think about 6 months back. The land is owned by the district council. I don't know if they have been allocated the land or not. I think -- and I'm sure they may have their plans of putting up a plant. It normally takes about 2 to 3 years to put up a plant because it's a greenfield and also in a very terrain. That is my expectation of the competition. I think Northeast generally, it has been us as the largest players in this is in Dalmia and then we have 3, 4 smaller players in Northeast, which are not listed, which are not there. I think once that entry happens, there will be a bit of a competition, I guess, but at the same time, there may be some consolidation for smaller players. Then I think it will just go as well.
Parth Bhavsar
analystSir, how do you -- like on Ambuja plant comes in, so how do you see the profitability for the Northeast reason to fair? What would be your stance would you like to go after the market share? Or would you like up like you try to manage, improve your profitability?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes. I think the strategy basically -- right now, about 18% of the cement is coming from outside Northeast. That's a big number. That is mainly coming because profitability and margins in Northeast is quite good. I think -- so it has to be a combination of both. One has to hold the market share at the same time, hold the prices, and two, of course, reduce the amount of cement which is coming from outside and probably from the smaller players. I think that is an adjustment phase. I don't know how exactly will it go, but we think that the market still has a decent level of concentration, which will definitely help us in the longer run, maintain the margin.
Parth Bhavsar
analystYou think you can protect this profitability even going ahead with the competition coming in?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveSee, I can't predict after 2, 3 years when the competition does come, what the intensity would be and what the impact on price and so on and so forth. I do understand that anyone who's getting into business, that is in the long term there to earn, so that is true for an [indiscernible] also and that's true for the incumbent also.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Uttam Kumar Srimal from Axis Securities.
Uttam Srimal
analystCongratulations on good set of numbers. Sir, can you highlight current pricing both in Northeast and Eastern India after quarter 2, how is the current pricing feeling in both Northeast and Eastern India?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveSorry. Yes. Northeast, the price is about INR 493.
Uttam Srimal
analystIt has gone down or it is at a similar level of quarter 2 FY '26 prices?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveAre you talking about prices right now in quarter 2?
Uttam Srimal
analystYes, compared to quarter 2. Is it gone down how much or it is on the same level?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveNo. Between quarter 1 and quarter 2, the prices have gone up by about INR 8.
Uttam Srimal
analystYes, currently compared to quarter 2 prices.
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes. Right now, the prices are broadly similar to quarter 2 prices with GST. In Bihar, the prices in quarter 2 had fallen by about INR 5 compared to quarter 1. I think the price in Bihar right now is the same as quarter 2 prices. West Bengal has also fallen by INR 7 in quarter 2 compared to quarter 1, but the prices right now in West Bengal also should be similar to quarter 2.
Uttam Srimal
analystSir, what is the current status of our AAC block? Because I think that has already been made operational. What kind of revenue we have derived in quarter 2 and how this is going to be for the full-year?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes. From AAC, we have just started it 3, 4 months back, and we have been ramping up the capacity. Last month only, we were able to produce it at 18,900 CBM, and the capacity of the plant is about 16,000. We've already ramped it up in the off-season to about 60% capacity utilization. The revenue that we've gotten from it is quite minimal. It's about INR 13 crores, INR 14 crores. I think we're going ahead because we only had a full production last month, but we -- going ahead, we do expect a revenue of about INR 50 crores, INR 60 crores to come from it.
Uttam Srimal
analystSir, what would be the margin in this particular business? Margin for AAC block, what would be the margin in this particular business?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveThe margin would be quite -- I think it will be -- normally, it should be about 12% to 15%. That should be the margin, because it is a low asset turnover, decent EBITDA margin kind of a business normally, but it also depends on the competition. The reason why we got into AAC is mainly because one of the largest raw materials is fly ash and the other one is cement. The second reason was because the distribution is very similar to cement in non-trade. It adds as an extra product for our non-trade customers as well as dealers. We have also launched the construction chemicals segment, which is just in this month only that we launched it. You will see the revenue numbers for that also in the next meeting. We have also got into RMC. We're trying to get into like forward -- trying to like just forward integrate ourselves because that's where we see the market could be moving, so that's what we are thinking.
Uttam Srimal
analystSir, last one, recently, we have -- company has passed resolution to raise some funds. If you can highlight on the same? The company has passed some enabling resolution to raise fund of around INR 1,500 crores, so if you can highlight on the same?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes. As I mentioned to you as well, as mentioned in that circular, we had taken a resolution to raise about INR 1,500 crores, right? We do not know if it will be in what form, rights issue of preferential allotment or QIP or some other form. That is mainly to kind of fund the expansion that we may have in Rajasthan, which we will circulate the details of. When we do circulate the details of the entire expansion project, we will also circulate how we are raising the funds to fund that project. I think that is why we have made the resolution itself.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Navin Sahadeo from ICICI Securities.
Navin Sahadeo
analystSir, if you could comment on the demand scenario in Northeast. Is the government-led CapEx or infrastructure focus, which was there, does that continue? Or you see there is some slowdown or some sort of, what do you say, a shortage of funds that is being put, which could hamper demand? How do you see the current demand scenario and your -- maybe the outlook as well, how are you seeing it going ahead?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveHonestly, I think that the current demand scenario is compared to other areas in North India, they're quite robust. I think the market is growing at about 8%, 9%, which is a bit higher than the market outside. That's one. The second is that the infrastructure investment is yet to come in a significant way. I think there's a lot of initial inquiry about the dam project, the hydro projects, which are coming up in Arunachal. I think once these projects are in full stream, we'll see a big demand coming up from there, which has still not started, but there are expectations as we need news and otherwise, the expectation of the projects starting soon. Once these projects start, I think they will become a great source of absorbing.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Rajesh Ravi from HDFC Securities.
Rajesh Ravi
analystMy question pertains to this announcement of Bihar grinding unit. I just wanted to understand.
Operator
operatorSorry to interrupt. Rajesh, sir, just give me one moment. The line for the management has been disconnected. Give us a moment while we reconnect the line for the management. Ladies and gentlemen, we have the line for the management reconnected. Rajesh, you can proceed with your question.
Rajesh Ravi
analystMy question pertains to announcement of Bihar expansion. I understand you currently have post the recent clinker expansion, 6 million tons of clinker, and post the Jorhat, you would be already having operating at 9.7 million tons of cement capacity, all being fed from the Northeast. Then you have the Silchar is already coming up and then Jorhat is planned next year, which will take you to 12 million tons. What is the plan? Because this Bihar will add another 2 million tons, which is almost 14 million tons of cement capacity. Is there any concurrent clinker expansion plans, which is there in pipeline or you would be operating at surplus grinding capacity?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveNo. Actually, we plan to put up the 2 million ton cement, which comes in Silchar will make a capacity of 9.7 million. Then we plan to put up the Bihar plant to basically make sure that our utilization of the clinker plant that we just put last year is a bit faster. Also because of the other benefit that we're getting in Bihar. Our plan to put up a plant in Umrangso is intact. We have also gotten the mines in Umrangso, and we have already started our work on ground to get all the approvals. We have the land, we have the mine. We are looking to get the ECs and all. Then we'll slowly start making our base doing the -- getting the road, the power and all those things so that whenever we do need clinker in 1 or 2 years' time, we are able to put up a plant and get the clinker supplying to the Northeast and the East region from there. Jorhat will be coming along with the clinker plant in Umrangso broadly.
Rajesh Ravi
analystUmrangso clinker, by when do you look at that coming up? What quantum you are looking at?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveThat, again, I think -- but we haven't put a date to it right now, but I think '28, '29 is what we are anticipating, but it really depends on the demand. What we are doing now, preparing every single thing. We're getting all the ECs way in advance. We are acting as if we are putting a plant now. Then just before the construction phase, we are waiting and seeing how the demand is turning out. If the demand is coming across very well and the Bihar market is also consuming a lot of clinker for us, then we will go for a quicker expansion in Umrangso. Otherwise, we may wait for a year or 2.
Rajesh Ravi
analystOnly then you will concurrently put up the Jorhat grinding. Is this understanding correct, sir?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes, exactly. Because our whole point of putting up Umrangso earlier would mean that the demand in North and Northeast and East is good. We'll also have to put up a grinding unit there. In 4 years' time in the Northeast, East story, what you said is right that in 4 years' time, we should have the Bihar plant probably Umrangso and Jorhat. We'll be 14 million tons with 5 million tons of clinker capacity, and then whatever we do in Rajasthan is extra.
Rajesh Ravi
analystRajasthan would also take at least 3 years whenever you start work on that project?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveI think, once we start work, once we have acquired our basic plant land and all and we're already on the process, I think it should take 2 years because Mainland, I think putting our plant is relatively under construction and always a bit easier. There's also less rainfall. In those columns are there. My expectation will be that it would be less than 2 years or 2 years.
Rajesh Ravi
analystSomewhere in FY '29, you will have both the Rajasthan as well as the Umrangso and Jorhat all coinciding in around FY '29?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes, probably one may come before the other, but yes, broadly by '29. We expect that we should be around that capacity. That's still the plan. That plan has to be discussed thoroughly internally and then only can I make a bold statement about it, but this is what we are thinking, yes.
Rajesh Ravi
analystNext year, your major CapEx will go only towards the Bihar grinding unit?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes, majorly towards Bihar grinding unit. I think some CapEx will start going in the civil work and groundwork in Rajasthan as well, if we go with the Rajasthan.
Rajesh Ravi
analystI think that's on the -- and what is the status with Dalmia's clinker plant ramping up? What sort of pressure is expected? October, you mentioned has been quite healthy in terms of demand. Do you look at any pressure on volumes or pricing given the -- with the Dalmia's major capacity now ramping up?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveNo, I don't think so. I don't think there is a pressure on pricing or anything like that. I think because the capacities that we both have set, we have to kind of be cognizant of the fact that the market is still the size that it was last year broadly. I don't think there's any point in pressure in pricing. I think that we'll have to just -- I hope that we all understand that and things work out accordingly. I don't see the pressure right now, but I can't predict the future.
Rajesh Ravi
analystLastly, on this fuel cost, which you mentioned, 1.25 is arguably the lowest in the industry. How sustainable is this? Because I know this is a costing player paying for AFR and you're on a blended basis operating at that cost. Is that sustainable over the next few quarters? Or do you see there were some one-offs in terms of high purchases of local coal, which helps you that? What is the outlook for next 2 quarters on this fuel cost rate?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveI think the book stock that we have right now because what happened was that there were a lot of rates of last year of SSA, which we did not get, which was carrying on, carrying forward. We got all those old rigs along with the new ones, along with the one that we are supposed to get this year from SSA in quarter 2. Our stock and book stock of coal is about 2,83,000 right now. It is a stock of almost about 5 to 6 months. The cost of that stock is, I think, at INR 1.25 to INR 1.3 TCV, so that gives you clarity that for the next 5 months, I don't think the cost is going to increase of coal. It range hover between INR 1.25 to INR 1.3 between that.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Harsh Mittal from Emkay Global.
Harsh Mittal
analystI have one small question. Given that elections -- state elections are scheduled in March next year, is there any possibility of demand being slow in quarter 4? Or it is business as usual? This is my only question.
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveNo, I think the demand right now, in October, I think we had a very good growth in Northeast itself. I don't know like right now, I don't see us -- I don't get a sign, but it may be the case, but I don't have anything to validate it.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Shravan Shah from Dolat Capital.
Shravan Shah
analystSir, so net-net, 20 million ton capacity by FY '30, that a broader target remains intact? 20 million ton capacity that we want to reach by FY '30, that remains intact.
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes. I think the target that we have by FY '29, FY ’30, given that we go ahead with the plans that we do is of about 18 million to 20 million tons, like 20 million tons by --18 million tons, I can see that the plans that we're trying to make may get us there. At least 18 million tons is what I would say. Then if something else also comes up, then probably 20 million.
Shravan Shah
analystSir, just on AAC block, construction chemical, RMC. All put together in FY '26 and '27, how one can look at in terms of revenue?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes. I think overall, next year, complete year with full production, I think we should be targeting about INR 80 crores, INR 90 crores of revenue from it. The reason why we did it is not a lot relating to the revenue or anything. I think these were just futuristic products that we had to get into as a cement company, from a branding perspective, marketing perspective and also from a distribution perspective. That's why we got into it. My expectation would be INR 80 crores to INR 90 crores next year.
Shravan Shah
analystSir, currently, in terms of, let's say, Q2, the profitability in East versus Northeast for us would be how much broader? The East would be INR 400, INR 500-odd?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveThat number, I don't have it by geography right now. I can probably -- you can reach out to Manoj Ji and we can try to give you the information, but I don't have it right now.
Shravan Shah
analystNo, no. Why I was trying to ask is because now we are preferring a Bihar. Just trying to understand that structurally going forward and once the even Rajasthan also comes up, so obviously, this will have a much lower profitability versus Northeast. In that sense, I was trying to understand how we are looking at the profitability and at the same time, the volume growth. Even for volume growth, sir, for next year, how one can look at because now except this 2 million tons, I think everything will be in terms of practically from the volume perspective, would be FY '29, they will be contributing. In that sense, I wanted to understand how one can look at the volume growth for us for next year also FY '27?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveI think the volume growth that we expect for next year because we we're still ramping the Siliguri plant, right in the middle, we do not have clinker for 2, 3 years. We first slowdown of Siliguri plant. Next year also, I think we expect a 12% growth in volume. As what we said, we enter new geography or anything or any other thing, so 12% is also a decent growth.
Operator
operatorOur next follow-up question comes from the line of Navin Sahadeo from ICICI Securities.
Navin Sahadeo
analystSir, I was just looking at the distance from Long Chong to the Begusarai grinding location or Begusarai basically in Bihar. It's a good over 1,050 kilometers. Just wanted to get a sense that how are you planning to move clinker? Will it be by road or Siliguri by road and thereafter by rail? Do we have any subsidies for freight in that sense? Or the 300% of the SGST benefit is what we are banking on to be like ensuring that this unit dynamics stays like IRR is profitable and in the comfortable zone. Some thoughts around how are we planning to move clinker will be very helpful.
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes. I think we plan to move around with clinker through Silchar. We'll take the clinker to Silchar, then through rake, we will take it to Begusarai. In Begusarai, we are looking for location, which is close to a railway siding so that we can have a railway siding come in our plant. The entire distance from Silchar is only 70 kilometers and rest of the entire distance is going to be covered through rail. The benefit of Bihar state policy will probably give us INR 400 crores, INR 500 -- 400 INR 500 per ton benefit in terms of the margin. I think which we plan to use.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] As there are no further questions from the participants, I now hand the conference over to Mr. Vaibhav Agarwal for closing comments.
Vaibhav Agarwal
analystYes. Thank you, Sagar. Sir, Tushar ji, just one question. You have any one-offs in the Q2 numbers? If you have it?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveI think, because shutdown has been taken this quarter. INR 13 crores to INR 14 crores is there in the P&L.
Vaibhav Agarwal
analystWas it a one-off or it's a non-recurring maintenance or like it's a?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveIt’s non-recurring. We will shutdown generally.
Manoj Agarwal
executiveThe shutdown is normally annual in nature. We have taken the shutdown in quarter 2 this year. Last year also we did in quarter 2 only, but a big difference between quarter 3 and quarter 2 will be that INR 14 crores, INR 15 crores of the.
Vaibhav Agarwal
analystTo that extent, this is not a one-off, right? This is a recurring expense?
Tushar Bhajanka
executiveYes. This is an annual thing. Of course, it does affect the per ton EBITDA of -- so this quarter's per ton EBITDA is down by INR 100 because there's a shutdown cost involved in quarter 2, which will not be in quarter 3.
Vaibhav Agarwal
analystThank you, Manoj Ji. Thank you, Tushar. Thank you. On behalf of PhillipCapital, we'd like to thank the management for the call and many thanks for joining the call. Thank you very much. Sagar, we now conclude the call. Thank you.
Operator
operatorThank you. On behalf of PhillipCapital India Private Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you all for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.
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