Strategy Inc (MSTR) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 9, 2020

NASDAQ US Information Technology Software conference_presentation 40 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Tyler Radke

analyst
#1

Okay. So good afternoon, everybody. My name is Tyler Radke. I cover the data and analytics and vertical software space here at Citi. And we have MicroStrategy next up, and we're pleased to welcome back Michael Saylor, Founder and CEO; as well as Phong Le, who is, I like to call the Trifecta title of President, CFO and COO. So gentlemen, thank you for joining our conference and for your support of the Citi Tech Conference.

Michael Saylor

executive
#2

Thanks for hosting this, Tyler.

Phong Le

executive
#3

Thanks, Tyler.

Tyler Radke

analyst
#4

So Michael, it's good to see you, and I think it's been a couple of years since you last joined us at the tech conference. Maybe just give us a sense of what you've been focused on over the past 2 years? And I know more recently, you did have the transition -- Phong into the President role, but what are kind of some of your key focuses both in the short term and long term for the company?

Michael Saylor

executive
#5

Yes. Over the past few years, I think, we've made strides in a number of areas. My focus has been on the product and streamlining the MicroStrategy platform so that we can deploy it more rapidly at the cloud. And my other focus has been on the underlying systems of the company and streamlining and accelerating our marketing and our sales and our employee training and education and performance systems. So as we approach 2020, it's more important than ever that we'd be able to deploy our software to our customers seamlessly, and you'll see a lot of cloud initiatives in that area that we're going to talk about, like our SaaS offering. It's also really important we provide services seamlessly, and we've launched services like Expert Now, and that's part of the work we've been doing. And we've been running remotely, and I'm pretty pleased to say we haven't really skipped a beat there. And so we've relied much more heavily on our corporate EP and our sales force and our marketing systems run remotely. So that's been my primary interest over the past few years.

Tyler Radke

analyst
#6

Okay. And Phong, now that you are in kind of a seat of greater responsibility, could you just kind of talk to us, I know driving higher productivity and efficiency has been something you're focused on but maybe just talk about some of the areas that you've seen improvement. And what you've been focused on kind of through the pandemic?

Phong Le

executive
#7

Yes. There -- I would say there are 2 primary things I'm focused on. One is, to your point, driving efficiency and productivity and ultimately increase revenue throughout all of our departments in the company. So that would be sales, marketing, technology, and back office departments like finance and legal and HR and then also improving the productivity of our consulting organization. And then the second piece is really getting all the teams to work together seamlessly as we launch new products and new initiatives into the marketplace. So Mike talked about post COVID, we launched Expert Now. Before that, we launched a Free Education program. And it was widely successful. We had 25,000 users pick up Free Education and take courses and get certifications. And that was a huge effort where we thought that we might get 1/10 of that, making sure that we had class for -- digital classroom capability, making sure that we knew which customers and which prospects were taking the education and turning that into opportunities and pipeline of revenue. And then after that, we launched Expert Now, which is a virtual way to talk to an expert in MicroStrategy at the click of a button from our website. And so there are a lot of systems initiatives, people initiatives to get that ready, training, back office in the second half of the year that we're in now, really launching our new SaaS offering, right, through MicroStrategy, and I've been very focused on that pieces. And other than that, running the day-to-day business. And so you can imagine a lot of change in the sales, go-to-market motion and the marketing go-to-market motion with a change in COVID and managing through that. Fortunately, I have a very strong team of sales folks and marketers and consultants to help with it. But the day-to-day operations of the business has become more complex in some ways with COVID because there's more change, but it's actually become simpler, too, and meetings with customers and cutting through a lot of the excess frills and getting right to a discussion around software and how we can help a business.

Tyler Radke

analyst
#8

Got it. And maybe this question is for both of you guys, but Mike, obviously, with your long history of the company and seeing it through multiple cycles, I think the COVID dynamic is quite different in a lot of ways, just in terms of the work-from-home aspects. And I guess, like, from a company culture perspective, I mean, how do you -- what changes have you noticed? And I guess, on the productivity side, maybe that's more on the -- for Phong, but like what have you noticed there as folks are not traveling and coming to the office?

Michael Saylor

executive
#9

Well, we've always had in our culture commitment to precision and engagement and transparency. And so we always -- we invested a lot in organization alignment and then systemizing or systematizing various transactions. And when 2020 hit and we went to a remote working environment, that started paying big dividends for us, because it became more important than ever to be organized and systemic in what you do. I've observed a real dramatic increase in productivity this year, like an explosive increase in productivity. It really surprised us at first, but then once we got over the initial shock of the transformation, then we realize that once you go to a remote virtual working environment, then it forces you to use systems and be very precise and very methodic and very rigorous. And what happens next is, you can start to put together the right people at the right time without a lot of friction. And then pretty soon, you can either automate or record what they're doing. And the results in general was, an increase in velocity, an increase in quality, and an increase in the automation content and an increase in the focus of everybody across the organization. Not what I would have predicted at the beginning of the year, but it was a pleasant surprise to actually see what happened, as we went virtual.

Tyler Radke

analyst
#10

Then I guess, just to expand on that, when you're talking about increased productivity, is it kind of in the sales motions as well? Or is it simply just folks have been able to just get more done in less time working from home? Like where are you observing that? And anything you could point to us from a -- like metric or a financial perspective?

Michael Saylor

executive
#11

Yes. Go ahead, Phong.

Phong Le

executive
#12

And -- I can talk about the sales side. It's -- we weren't sure if we were sitting here at the end of March, if customers would be willing to take meetings over Zoom or Webex or Teams. What we found is our salespeople are actually taking more meetings, right? Like if you want to meet with the CIO of a company, and you're going to go visit their headquarters in Chicago, Illinois previously, and I talked to [ Wyn Heister ], he said, well, previously, I'd have to set aside 3 hours because I feel like, if you're going to come into town, I'm going to take you out to launch, introduce you to my team, walk you around the building and then meet for an hour. Now I can schedule that meeting next week for half an hour, and we can get right down to business. And we're seeing salespeople have that interaction and that feedback time and time again. So they actually have more meetings on their calendars. And then you add on that, the dead time that would have been required to get for us to get on an airplane, to take a taxi or an Uber, stay in a hotel room. There's a cost factor, but there's a time factor there, too, that gets removed and people are able to have more discussions. And the more meetings you have, the more demos we can do, the faster the cycle of sales, the better pipeline gets closed out. We're seeing it show up in increased pipeline. We have had challenges in the first half of the year in close rates because there has been some impedance on the back end with budgetary approvals and freezes and escalated authorities. But as that starts to go away, we hope to preserve the productivity improvements on the front end. And if you extend that to our development team, our tech team, right, we see an evidence of 10% to 15% increase in productivity, primarily because people aren't commuting anymore, right? And so there's actually more productive work time and people are able to focus sort of on co-development. And fortunately, as Mike had mentioned, we weren't one of the companies that were scrambling to put in a video conferencing system, a digital signature system, a transparent work tracking system. Like, that was already in place. So we were able to flip the switch over the course of a weekend and see the productivity benefits come out of it.

Tyler Radke

analyst
#13

I see. Got it. And I guess, just as we think about the recent results, so I think license revenue historically has been a leading indicator on new business. We saw double-digit declines in Q2, but certainly, it was a bit better than the declines that we saw in Q1. I guess do you feel like the worst disruptions from a just overall business impact perspective is behind the company? And I guess, how have you seen things kind of unfold since Q2?

Phong Le

executive
#14

We sit here with a month left or 3 weeks left in the end of the quarter. So I don't think I want to speak specifically about this quarter. But I would say, generally speaking, we have seen that buying environment start to open up more, right? Like I do think people were trying to figure out how to improve budgets, what their forecasts for the rest of the year would be in next year and there is just a -- everything was getting frozen in the first half, for what I would call sort of business continuity spend versus business intelligence spend or other areas. The second half looks to be more positive, right? Things seem to be opening up. That said, the last 2 weeks of the quarter is where the vast majority of our deals get done. So we have to see how it all plays out. But I do see the business environment and the budgets and the IT spend and the business spend is starting to open up more.

Tyler Radke

analyst
#15

Okay. And Mike, maybe we could switch to the product side. And I think MicroStrategy Cloud has been more of a focus for the company. And I think you did start recently an incentive program for current on-prem customers to potentially migrate. Maybe you could just share us -- share with us some of the progress and feedback from customers on the migration to the cloud.

Michael Saylor

executive
#16

Phong, I think I'll give that to you.

Phong Le

executive
#17

Sure. So there's a couple of things, right, Tyler. One is just our current cloud offering, which you can equate to basically running a private cloud for large enterprises like, Citibank or others, where we are -- we have a custom deployment in sitting on AWS or Azure. And in that particular case, we're taking over their hosting, we're taking over the infrastructure and some of the operations work. We've seen some acceleration of customers migrating to that particular cloud in the last year. And we put in an incentive program to further move customers to that cloud, and I think that's going to go very well. And we can see some material revenue uplift from that, moving from product support revenue to subscription revenue. The other piece of our cloud is really now launching a new product, which is a MicroStrategy SaaS product. And that's something that we're pretty excited about, that we're -- we'll launch in -- towards the end of this year in the fourth quarter, starting with HyperIntelligence SaaS and moving to Business Intelligence SaaS. And that will not necessarily address the customers who want a custom-developed, custom-negotiated, custom-term private cloud, but it will address customers who want a turnkey solution that they can deploy in the course of an hour. So imagine HyperIntelligence deployed to an enterprise's hundreds of users, experience through our web, downloaded for a 90-day trial, paid for via an automated invoice or via credit card online, with a various standard set of pricing, a standard set of terms, something like $10 a user a month. We're pretty excited about that. That will give us revenue opportunity as we enter next year. So there's sort of those 2 pieces of cloud. I think the one you were referencing was the first one, which will be sort of the more immediate uplift. And then the second one, we'll start to see over time.

Tyler Radke

analyst
#18

Got it. And then I think one thing that we got a lot of questions from investors on was the big announcement last month, just on kicking off the tender offer to buy back up to $250 million of stock. And then the adoption of Bitcoin as a primary treasury reserve asset. Obviously, it's a -- there's a pretty noteworthy announcement, I think, somewhat unique in the industry. But maybe Michael or Phong, could you just kind of walk us through the decision process on that? And kind of what that implies for capital returns going forward?

Michael Saylor

executive
#19

Sure. I'll start, and then Phong can add on as necessary. I think that as we move through the second quarter, we realized that we were undergoing a virtual transformation, we call it the virtual wave. And what the virtual wave means is, although the software is creating the same value, we can sell it and market it and service it much more efficiently. And we can run the company much more efficiently. And that caused us to realize that we were going to have margins that are going to improve, and our cash flow generation will improve. And we came to the conclusion that we were going to generate more cash and consistently generate more cash going forward. That was the first part of the puzzle, a change to our view in the P&L. And then we looked at our treasury, and we saw $500 million worth of cash on the treasury. And we realized that not only were we going to have more cash coming in, but we weren't really going to need that cash to grow the business. In fact, we got the sense that it probably wouldn't even be a good idea to be throwing money at the problem of growth. Like, the days of buying, advertising and entering into marketing events and hiring tons of people to ring the phones, I think, those are long past. We've adopted a new approach. And I think the world has. It's like, build a product that's virtualized. Give it away for free as a trial period. Let people try it out and let it spread virally. And so the sales and marketing strategy of the company has become much more efficient. And that means the cash generation capability of the company has been improved. And that means that we can't necessarily expect to use that treasury to reinvest in sales and marketing. And then we started thinking, what do we need to do with it. Now coincidentally, the Federal Reserve changed their policy, and they began -- they began the quantitative easing and printing more money. And the purchasing power of cash began to deteriorate as measured in NASDAQ stocks or in gold or silver or other tangible assets that you might want. And so that, combined with the prospect of getting 0% interest on that money and watching its purchasing power degrade over time, quickened our decision-making process. We realized that we needed to do something. And the 2 ideas we had are, we should buy our own stock back faster and quicken our rate. And then whatever we didn't use to buy our stock back that we needed as a treasury reserve, we should put into some kind of tangible asset that's going to accrete in purchasing power, rather than depreciate in purchasing power. So that kicked us into a decision-making process, and we considered buying a market basket of equities, and we considered buying a market basket of precious metals. And eventually, we settled upon buying Bitcoin. And the reason we decided to buy Bitcoin is, because Bitcoin represents a form of digital gold. It's harder than gold. It's smarter, it's stronger, it's faster than gold. We -- in my opinion, it's beyond the speculative stage. It's a $200 billion digital monetary network. And it is 50x bigger than its next biggest competitor, say, Bitcoin Cash. And so it looks to be the 90% plus dominant player in the space. A $200 billion, it's big enough to think that it's not going away, and yet it only represents 2% or 3% of the market cap of actual gold. And digital gold is orders of magnitude better than actual gold. You can move it 1,000x faster. You can audit it every 10 minutes. You could liquidate it any minute of the day, any day of the week, anywhere in the world. There are a lot of tangible advantages that make it a stronger form of collateral. And the fact that they're locked in a 21 million Bitcoin means that even if the price goes through the roof, all that's going to do is incentivize miners to make the network more secure. If the price of gold goes through the roof, they're going to mine more gold, and people are going to melt down their jewelry to sell it on the market. So the upside for physical gold, starting from a $10 trillion base is not nearly the kind of upside of digital gold starting from a $200 billion base. So if you boil it down, over the midterm, we think that the Bitcoin investment could yield us a 10x upside, if we're right. If we're wrong, we'll trade sideways or we'll lose a bit of money. But the 10x upside over the midterm is pretty compelling. Over the long term, if the digital gold thesis works out, digital gold will be more valuable than gold, and you're looking at 100x upside. And over the near term, which is very interesting, we're offering institutional investors the ability to get exposure to Bitcoin by buying the MSTR ticker. And that makes our story much more interesting. There are thousands of institutions that can't buy charter, buy Bitcoin as an asset directly. They don't have the relationships. They couldn't do it if they wanted to. If they decided they wanted to, tomorrow, it will take them 3 months of compliance work to get through it. It might take them years to get through it. On the other hand, the idea of the Bitcoin ETF is incredibly compelling thing. And that catapults us to the top of 3,500 publicly traded companies as being the top 1 to allow them to do that. So our balance sheet strategy is, don't hold cash if it's going to be a liability. Invest it back into ourself. If we can't invest it in our own stock, invest it in Bitcoin. And provide institutional investors with an on-ramp to Bitcoin, which is going to be a benefit to them. We wouldn't get that same kind of differentiating or unique characteristic, if we simply invested it in gold or in a market basket of equities. And we would have -- I think less upside and just the same downside. And of course, we need to keep some kind of treasury in order to assure our counterparties, our customers, our employees, our investors and our vendors, who will be around for the long term. And so this strategy allows us to do two good things at the same time: To make our own stock more scarce, and to put our tangible assets as the scarce asset, and that's why we did that.

Tyler Radke

analyst
#20

Okay. That's a very deep explanation. I appreciate that. I guess since the announcement, I mean, as you've spoken with some of your larger investors or prospective investors, I mean, obviously, to your point, Michael, like Bitcoin is not something that most investors can readily access from an institutional perspective. I guess what's been the feedback thus far? And I guess, the counterpoint would be, why wouldn't you just put all the money you're putting towards Bitcoin into buying back stock?

Michael Saylor

executive
#21

Why don't I let Phong answer the question first, and then I'll add on to whatever his thoughts are.

Phong Le

executive
#22

Yes. In terms of investor sentiment and in general sentiment about our capital allocation strategy, I think it's been very positive, right? And I think you said it yourself. This is a big shift for two reasons. One is, we have historically held on to our cash balance, and it's been a large amount anywhere between $550 million to $700 million. And we've methodically, in the last 18 months, bought back $180 million of stock on the open market. But we haven't been as transparent about our cash flow plans or our capital allocation plans. So I think that's been very positive. I think the tender and the reaction to the fact that we're going out aggressively, buying back MicroStrategy stock, I think that's been very positive. And I think to the extent people understand the Bitcoin story, you'd be probably surprised the number of people who come out and say, "Oh, I own Bitcoin" or that's actually a really interesting and unique sort of strategy, and we think it can work. So it's been mostly positive. Now I think there has been some negative sentiment that's similar to what you're sort of echoing, Tyler, around sort of why wouldn't we just buy all of our stock back as opposed to putting some of our excess capital in the Bitcoin. And Mike laid out some of those reasons, but I'm sure, Mike, you can sort of explain some of those more, too. So I'll pass it over to you.

Michael Saylor

executive
#23

Yes. The company needs to have a capital structure or some kind of treasury against the rainy day. If we drained ourselves down to $50 million of net cash, then I think that, ultimately, our competitors might use that against us. And anybody that becomes unsecured in other crisis might think that we're undercapitalized. So it's not practical, I think, for us to purchase that much stock in a hurry, and it's not prudent for us to do it either. And so we've taken a measured stance of purchasing back some stock and then purchasing some Bitcoin. And we'll adjust that over time subject to market conditions in order to do the right thing.

Tyler Radke

analyst
#24

Okay. And one of the conclusions that it seemed like you had as you were formulating the capital return strategy, which is kind of almost like a more sustainable level of margins in cash flow. And I'm wondering, Phong, obviously, I think most software companies had experienced lower-than-expected expenses this year, just as -- we can't travel and we're quarantined for lower office space. But how much of the operating expense savings that you've incurred this year, do you think is sustainable? And I guess, in terms of what you've learned, which sounds like you're seeing a lot of productivity from the work-from-home environment, like how much kind of incremental cost savings have you kind of started to think about, as you think about what MicroStrategy looks like from a long-term cost perspective, and taking into account facilities and travel and those types of things?

Phong Le

executive
#25

Yes, there's a lot of interesting -- I'll call it, software industry behavioral norms that were challenging. That typically might take 10 to 20 years to change are now taking 10 weeks to change, right? And so this idea that to close $1 million deal, you have to go meet the customer, break bread over a steak dinner with a bottle of wine or to effectively do a demo, you have to be in a conference room, fiddling, with trying to figure out how to project to the screen for 10 minutes before you can actually do a demo, or and I would say a more sacred norm that we held sacred was to be an effective technology software engineer, you have to be in an office building, sitting next to your Scrum team and meeting for a daily stand-up, in-person every morning. The first two, I would say nobody really enjoyed, right, like, following a few folks, most account executives and most buyers didn't really want to have to negotiate the $1 million deal over dinner and rather just do it over a 15-minute Zoom session. Nobody wanted to figure out how to call it the AV team to get the projector to work to do the demo. And besides that, get on the airplane, take the subway, show up at the front desk, talk to security, get your badge, go up in elevator, talk to the receptionist and then go to the conference room, right, like, nobody really wanted to do that. So in those particular scenarios, I don't think we have to return to those norms. There may be certain customers that are going to want to do that. There may be as 10% to 20% of interactions. But if we can get to what's best for the employee and best for the customer, it's accelerating the conversation in a transaction, so you can actually get value out of our software. And that's really what we want for everybody. On the technology side and the office work side, it's a more interesting one, right? And we've moved to a policy that says post-COVID, we think most of our employees can work from home, but we'll give them an office environment, if they wanted. If you're trying to avoid the screaming kids, you are trying to deal with online school, and you want do the office, we'll make that available, right, but we're not going to require it by 1-day a week. So even in that particular case, we're hearing from our technologists and from our employees that they can be more productive working from home. We were skeptical going into it, right? Mike and I were probably 2 of the biggest skeptics. But we've proven over the last 3 to 6 months it is absolutely possible. So I do think that the cost reductions and the margin improvements will be sustainable. Like I don't think we'll ever get back to the level of T&E or the level of real estate cost or the level of field marketing, events marketing spend that we were at before. And I think for the most part, that's better for everybody, right? I guess the only people that it's not better for are events companies, airlines and hotels; but for the software company and the customer, it's a better outcome.

Tyler Radke

analyst
#26

Okay. I wanted to touch on the competitive environment. And especially, as you've seen -- to the extent you've seen changes during the COVID pandemic, I think in the past, I mean, certainly, downturns have hurt the smaller, less capitalized private companies. We've seen a lot of headlines in terms of layoffs at some of your smaller competitors. But just curious, what you're seeing when you're talking to customers or even from a hiring perspective, you're seeing more resumes flowed in from some of the competitors. But just -- how do you think the competitive landscape has evolved during this crazy time?

Phong Le

executive
#27

Yes. I think it's pretty much what you summarized, Tyler, which is, the strong will get stronger and the weak -- the ones with less market share, lower -- less capitalization, who are not turning to profitability, but really buying a share through marketing will get weaker, which I think we've seen this happen in 2008, and it boded well for us because we offer a full enterprise-grade platform, where people can build Business Intelligence applications that are embedded into the operations of the organization. Specifically, I think Power BI will -- and Microsoft will get stronger over time. Salesforce will get stronger. Uncertain on the Tableau side. I think we are seeing some of the smaller niche players get weaker over time. It doesn't mean that it's less competitive for us. It's just a different set of competitors. And so the BI space is an area that is central to sort of a business and an enterprise, especially post-COVID. So I still think that budgeting and the funding and the market will grow. And that, by itself, will keep the industry very competitive and keep people interested in new entrants coming in. But I think it's a reasonable summary to say that the strong can get stronger and the weak will get weaker.

Tyler Radke

analyst
#28

Got it. And then if -- Phong, if we were to just think about your kind of medium- to long-term goals. Obviously, improving the company's cost structure and driving efficiency in the sales force has been a big priority for you. But what -- I mean in the past, you've kind of thrown out, you'd like to grow double digits with a double-digit margin. And I know from time-to-time that's kind of evolved a bit depending on which one you're emphasizing more growth or margins. But how do you kind of think about medium- to long-term goals in the context of the profitability versus growth tradeoffs?

Phong Le

executive
#29

I think growth is still our #1 priority, right, growing our software business and doing it via Enterprise, Business Intelligence and a strong HyperIntelligence offering, a strong cloud offering and a strong focus on Embedded Intelligence. And I think some of the things that we're doing in terms of improvements in productivity are in the interest of growth and the things that we're doing in transitioning to the cloud are in the interest of long-term sustainable growth. So that focus has not changed. We hit a little bump in the first half of the year due to COVID. Hope to see us recover from that going forward. But that's still our #1 priority, growing as a business. If anything, our profitability goals that we had originally established, we can be more aggressive on. We can be more productive. We can be more efficient. We can have better marketing productivity in ROI, better sales productivity in ROI. Our G&A expenses can be reduced over time. And so that has been an advantage of COVID is we think we can see better margins, which is why in our Q2 earnings call, really for the first time, we talked about what we think we can see in terms of non-GAAP operating margins. And we're reasonably bullish on that for the reasons that Mike talked about, too. So as a summary, growth is still our priority and profitable growth is still our priority, but perhaps, we can see even more profits. We're not going to go for incremental profits to sacrifice growth.

Tyler Radke

analyst
#30

Yes. Yes. And how should investors kind of think about the key drivers of growth? I mean obviously, you've been in the market for a while. You have a pretty robust enterprise-grade customer base and some interesting new products around the version 2020 and HyperIntelligence and some of the stuff you're doing in the cloud. But I mean, do we get growth by adding net new customers? Is it HyperIntelligence? Like how -- could you just kind of rank order the biggest drivers or opportunities that you see to growing the company over the next few years?

Phong Le

executive
#31

Yes, there's 3 drivers. One is just organically growing through our existing Enterprise BI business, right? And in that driver, we have 3 major product focuses, right? We have our HyperIntelligence product focus, we have our Business Intelligence product focus, and we have our Embedded Intelligence product focus. And through all 3 of those, we think, we can drive material growth just organically through our Enterprise BI product. The second big driver is migrating customers to the cloud, right? And so as we migrate customers from paying us perpetual maintenance to subscription revenue, we think we can see an uplift in the recurring revenue because we're providing more value to the customers, right? We're providing them cloud infrastructure, we're providing them cloud support, we're providing them software that is more agile, easier to support, easier to run. And so we think that can create material growth in the short term. The longer-term piece is the SaaS business, right, and that's the third driver, right? Getting customers and prospects, especially people who are new to MicroStrategy because they're in a company that doesn't have a MicroStrategy installation, or there any department of a large enterprise that doesn't have a MicroStrategy installation, trialing the software, buying the software and then expanding their deployment of the software. So we're better positioned than we have been before. I would say, if you rewind 2 years ago, we're primarily looking at that first piece, which is driving growth traditional Enterprise, Business Intelligence, using Hyperintelligence, Business Intelligence and Embedded. Now we have 2 additional levers that we can count on to drive growth going forward.

Tyler Radke

analyst
#32

Right. Right. Okay. And then, I guess, just -- we got about 5 minutes left here. But maybe we could just talk about the product side a little bit more. I think I wanted to touch just on HyperIntelligence. I think we're now almost into year 2 of that release and just kind of how the -- any way to quantify impact there, I mean, to talk about that as being potentially a key driver of growth. But what else -- I know, Mike, you've been spending a lot of time on the product side, but what -- maybe kind of give us a preview of some of the stuff in the works that you're excited about.

Michael Saylor

executive
#33

I think that HyperIntelligence is really maturing as an offering. It's clearly differentiating for us. And everywhere we go, I think we're getting positive response from our customers, and we have yet to see any competitor offer anything similar. So those are -- that's a very good auspicious sign. We've done a lot of work polishing it, to make it faster, stronger, smarter. It's really critical to get the fit-and-finish right, because when it works well, it's being injected right in the stream of HTML pages. And if you inject it just right, you get instant friction-free intelligence experience. And when I look at the product right now, I feel like, we've really matured it to the point where we can inject HyperIntelligence into most Enterprise applications. And I would say probably the single most exciting thing going on with HyperIntelligence in the coming 6 months is that we've got an SDK that allows you to build a HyperIntelligence application and then to embed it into the code of your own proprietary website. So that means that, say, Amazon could build HyperIntelligence into the Amazon website in an hour or 2 hours, and embed it and then hundreds of thousands of people would be getting HyperCards in hour 3, without installing any extensions or going through any security protocols. And so we think that, that's going to be a big breakthrough in the deployment of HyperIntelligence.

Tyler Radke

analyst
#34

Great. Great. All right. Well, I know we're approaching the top of the hour, and I want to thank you both for joining us today and for supporting our conference. And for the investors that joined, we'll talk to you later. So thank you very much.

Phong Le

executive
#35

Thank you, Tyler. Thank you, everyone.

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