Super Micro Computer, Inc. (SMCI) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

January 31, 2023

NASDAQ US Information Technology Technology Hardware, Storage and Peripherals earnings 49 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good morning. My name is Evan, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Super Micro Computer, Inc. Fiscal Q2 2023 Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Mr. Michael Staiger, you may begin the conference.

Michael Staiger

executive
#2

Good afternoon, and thank you for attending Supermicro's call to discuss financial results for the second quarter, which ended December 31, 2022. With me today are Charles Liang, Founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and David Weigand, Chief Financial Officer. By now, you should have received a copy of the news release from the company that was distributed at the close of regular trading and is available on the company's website. As a reminder, during today's call, the company will refer to a presentation that is available to participants in the Investor Relations section of the company's website under the Events & Presentations tab. We have also published management's scripted commentary on our website. Please note that some of the information you'll hear during our discussion today will consist of forward-looking statements, including without limitation those regarding revenue, gross margin, operating expenses, other income and expenses, taxes, capital allocation, and future business outlook, including guidance for the third quarter of fiscal '23 and the full fiscal year 2023. There are a number of risk factors that could cause Supermicro's future results to differ materially from our expectations. You can learn more about these risks in the press release we issued earlier this afternoon and in our most recent 10-K filing for fiscal 2022 and other SEC filings. All of these documents are available on the Investor Relations page of Supermicro's website. We assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. Most of today's presentation will refer to non-GAAP financial results and business outlook. For an explanation of our non-GAAP financial measures, please refer to accompanying presentation or to our press release published earlier today. In addition, a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results is contained in today's press release and in the supplemental information attached to today's presentation. At the end of today's prepared remarks, we will have a Q&A session for sell-side analysts to ask questions. And I'll now turn the call over to Charles.

Charles Liang

executive
#3

Thank you, Michael, and good afternoon, everyone. Today, I am pleased to announce another outstanding quarterly result for Supermicro, driven by contribution across our diversified customers, end markets and strong products. No single customer contributed more than 10% of our revenue. This is the eighth consecutive quarter of outstanding growth that effectively doubled our annual revenue. Let me share some key highlights for the quarter. First, revenue for the second quarter of fiscal year 2023 totaled $1.803 billion, up 54% year-on-year, above our guidance range of $1.7 billion to $1.8 billion. Our fiscal second quarter non-GAAP earnings per share grew over 271% year-on-year at $3.26 compared to $0.88 a year ago, far exceeding the high end of our guidance range of $2.64 to $2.90. This great achievement is made possible by our much-improved operational and financial discipline, including our Taiwan campus that contributed lower operation and production cost. With the increase of AI applications, our plug-and-play rack-scale total IT solutions and GPU-based systems continued to be strong contributors with more than 100% year-on-year growth. Storage products are also gaining significant traction with 41% year-over-year growth as we continued to grow market share. We are mindful that many of our partners and customers have become increasingly more cautious with respect to macroeconomic headwind, and we are prepared to deal with these uncertainties as we always have in the past. The strength of our products and business fundamentals keeps us confident in our ability to continue gaining market share from competition given in the traditional soft Q3 quarter. We expect the headwind may persist in the first half of calendar 2023, but we believe our business will recover quickly in the second half of the year as our new Sapphire Rapids, Genoa product and H100 product lines start to ramp up in high volume. Having said that, our fiscal year 2023 revenue year-over-year growth should be in the middle 30% compared with last year without changing our business plan for strong growth in the coming years. For fiscal year 2024, we are targeting year-over-year revenue growth of at least 20%. We continue to see new customers, increase demands for energy efficient rack-scale plug-and-play solutions across the Tier 1, Tier 2 data center ecosystem as well as other enterprise customers. Some of them are highly interested in our liquid cooling at the rack and system level for their green computing HPC, data center and cloud installations. In addition, our continuous investment in software, switch and service are paying dividends to our total IT strategy as they grow. Our Silicon Valley and Taiwan campus continue to optimize their rack-scale production process, ready to deliver L10, L11 and L12 systems in volume with software, networking and service. Our U.S. facility still have 40% capacity, while Taiwan still have 50% capacity headroom to grow for the next 1 to 2 years. To accommodate stronger growth in the near and medium future, our recently broken-ground Malaysia new campus will start to contribute even better profit margin through economy of scale with our more and more new high-volume customers. I am very glad that the lower operation and production cost from our new Malaysia campus will be ready in just 4 to 5 quarters away. When the time gets tough, customers are looking for tangible value from their IT investment. With the power requirements rising with each new generation of technology, now up to 400 watt on the CPU and 700 watt on the GPU, we are seeing the true value of our Green Computing effort. We have added both high ambient temperature operation and liquid cooling support for the new portfolio to reduce environmental impact, cooling-related infrastructure costs and OpEx. We are happy to see many more cloud total solutions customer speeding up their deployments with our Green Computing methodology. Many of them have already saved tens of millions of dollars in electricity cost as a direct result. We expect them to grow even faster by the coming quarters and years as we deliver superior performance, performance per watt and per dollars through new generation of products. As I have shared in the past, when the IT industry adopts our Green Computing solution or develops green solution like ours, it's possible to save close up to $10 billion in electricity costs per year, which is equivalent of eliminating about 30 fossil fueled power plants and equating to the preservation of up to 8 billion trees for our planet. As we approach the second half of our fiscal 2023, we see opportunities for diversified growth across more large data centers, enterprise, AI machine learning, storage, cloud, 5G telco and IoT markets. Our online B2C and B2B programs have finally started to ramp up and offers the convenience and quicker service of direct support from Supermicro to many customers around the world. With all the online automation and intelligent database-driven tools, we see many new customers that are really happy to order from our new platform. 24-hour around-the-clock service, real-time responses, and precise communication, cost efficiency are just some of the advantage this program offers. With our industry's most intensive product portfolio supporting the recently launched Intel 4th Generation Scalable Xeon processors, Sapphire Rapids; 4th Gen AMD EPYC Genoa processors; and NVIDIA H100 Hopper GPUs, we are confident to maintain and enhance our market-leading growth momentum in the coming quarters and years. Unlike last few generation's steady product ramp up, we currently see many more customers taking samples and seeding units of these new solutions. This demonstrates our customer base is strongly expanding now. We expect them to become a significant revenue stream by the June quarter and more so in the September quarter and beyond. With market excited for the latest innovations from Intel, AMD, NVIDIA and Supermicro, we remain optimistic that the demand will expand as new architecture developed for AI, Metaverse, Omniverse and IoT/Edge applications will be strong in the foreseeable future. We had a better than expected December quarter. With new generation of products in a strong position now, it will generate more demand, especially with our rack-scale solutions. Along with our getting stronger software, switch and service offerings, our potential to gain market share has never been stronger than today despite the macroeconomic headwind. With our strong cash position today and especially pulled down PE, we allocate $200 million of stock buyback program. We continue to emerge as one of the largest global suppliers of total IT solutions with market share gains. We are a Silicon Valley company focusing on green innovation and system technology. Our efforts have saved our customers' OpEx tremendously. With our 50% still available capacity in Taiwan and the soon coming more cost-efficient campus in Malaysia, we continue to expect a 20% to more than 50% year-over-year growth for the coming years, and we remain on track to reach our long-term growth objective of $20 billion annual revenue in the long run. Now, I will pass the call to David Weigand, our Chief Financial Officer, to provide additional details on the quarter. David?

David Weigand

executive
#4

Thank you, Charles. I am pleased to report Q2 fiscal 2023 revenues of $1.8 billion, up 54% year-on-year and down 3% sequentially. Revenues were at the high end of our initial guidance range of $1.7 billion to $1.8 billion and our recently updated range of $1.77 billion to $1.8 billion. Our year-on-year revenue growth continued to be driven by new and existing customers widely adopting our GPU/AI systems and rack-scale total IT solutions, which contributed to solid gross margins and record operating margins. In fiscal Q2, we had good growth in our 2 largest verticals: the enterprise channel and OEM vertical -- I'm sorry, the enterprise channel vertical and the OEM appliance/large data center vertical, which demonstrated the resilience of our business model. AI/GPU accelerated computing solutions represented more than 20% of our revenues over the past 4 quarters and is a significant growth opportunity based on our wide range of AI/GPU platforms. We achieved Q2 revenues of $1.8 billion with no customer representing more than 10% of revenues. We recorded $970 million in our Enterprise and Channel vertical, representing 54% of Q2 revenues versus 45% last quarter. This was up 29% year-over-year and up 15% quarter-over-quarter. The OEM appliance and large data center vertical achieved $766 million in revenues, representing 42% of Q2 revenues versus 50% last quarter. This was up 172% year-over-year and down 17% quarter-over-quarter. Our emerging 5G/Telco/Edge/IoT segment achieved $67 million in revenues, representing 4% of Q2 revenues versus 5% last quarter. Systems comprised 92% of total revenue and was up 68% year-over-year and down 3% quarter-over-quarter. Subsystems and accessories represented 8% of Q2 revenues and were down 24% year-over-year and up 2% quarter-over-quarter. On a year-on-year basis, the volume of systems and nodes shipped as well as system node ASPs increased due to product and customer mix. While on a quarter-on-quarter basis, the volume of systems shipped increased, while nodes shipped and system node ASPs decreased again due to product and customer mix. Taking a look geographically in fiscal Q2, the U.S. market represented 61% of revenues, Asia 18%, Europe 17% and the Rest of the World 4%. On a year-on-year basis, U.S. revenues increased 71%, Asia increased 16%, Europe increased 45% and Rest of the World increased 98%. On a quarter-over-quarter basis, U.S. revenues decreased 15%, Asia increased 23%, Europe increased 33% and Rest of the World increased 33%. The Q2 non-GAAP gross margin was 18.8%. That was unchanged quarter-over-quarter and was up 480 basis points year-over-year due to price discipline, lower freight costs and leverage from higher factory utilization. Taking a look at operating expenses, Q2 OpEx on a GAAP basis decreased by 4% quarter-over-quarter and increased 8% year-over-year to $122 million. On a non-GAAP basis, operating expenses decreased 7% quarter-over-quarter and increased 5% year-on-year to $109 million. OpEx decreased sequentially due to higher NRE and marketing credits that we received from the new platform launches. The non-GAAP operating margin was 12.8% for the quarter versus 12.5% last quarter and 5.2% a year ago as we benefited from lower operating expenses. Other income and expense was approximately $8 million in expense, primarily consisting of $6 million in foreign exchange losses as the dollar weakened during Q2 and interest expense of $2 million as compared to an $8 million FX gain and $4 million of interest expense last quarter. Interest expense decreased sequentially as we reduced our credit -- short-term credit lines. This was partially offset by increased interest rates. The tax provision for Q2 was $30 million on a GAAP basis and $34 million on a non-GAAP basis. The GAAP tax rate for Q2 was 14.3% and non-GAAP tax rate was 15.3%. Our tax rates were lower sequentially as we benefited from some favorable discrete tax benefits. Lastly, our share of income from our joint venture was a loss of $1.4 million this quarter as compared to a loss of $0.9 million last quarter. We delivered strong Q2 non-GAAP diluted EPS of $3.26, which was up 271% year-over-year and down 5% quarter-over-quarter and exceeded the high end of our original guidance range of $2.64 to $2.90 and our recently updated guidance of $3.07 to $3.22. Our EPS outperformance was attributed to our ability to maintain gross margins, manufacturing efficiencies and higher NRE and marketing credits. Turning to the balance sheet and working capital metrics compared to last quarter. Our Q2 cash conversion cycle was unchanged at 95 days versus Q1. Days of inventory was 99. It was down by 1 day sequentially due to a more stable supply chain. Accounts receivable increased sequentially by $32 million while accounts payable decreased sequentially by $225 million. Days sales outstanding was down by 1 day quarter-over-quarter to 38 days while days payables outstanding came down by 2 days to 42 days. In fiscal Q2, we generated positive cash flow from operations of $161 million versus $314 million in Q1. Our operating cash flow contribute -- continued to benefit from strong revenues and margins and an improved supply chain. We note that Q1 operating cash flow benefited from $70 million in customer prepayments recorded as deferred revenues. CapEx was $10 million for Q2 resulting in positive free cash flow of $151 million versus positive free cash flow of $303 million last quarter. The closing balance sheet cash position was $305 million, while bank debt was reduced to $170 million as we paid down $80 million in short-term debt during the quarter. We did not buy back any shares during the quarter and have $200 million in share repurchase authorization until January 31, 2024. Our Board will determine the timing and amount of share repurchases. Now turning to the outlook for our business. We continue to watch the global macroeconomic situation. Additionally, as the supply chain disruptions have eased and the industry transitions to new platforms from Intel, AMD, NVIDIA during 2023, we anticipate normal -- a return to normal seasonal patterns. For the third quarter of fiscal 2023 ending March 2023, we expect net sales in the range of $1.42 billion to $1.52 billion, GAAP diluted net income per share of $1.75 to $2.02 and non-GAAP diluted net income per share of $1.88 to $2.14. We expect gross margins to be down 30 to 40 basis points due to macroeconomic conditions. GAAP operating expenses are expected to be $139 million, which includes approximately $12 million in expected stock-based compensation and other expenses that are excluded from non-GAAP diluted net income per common share. GAAP and non-GAAP operating expenses are expected to increase in Q3 due to lower R&D NRE credits and higher personnel costs. We expect other income and expenses, including interest expense, to be a net expense of approximately $3 million and expect a nominal loss from our joint venture. The company's projections for GAAP and non-GAAP diluted net income per common share assume a GAAP tax rate of 15.9%, a non-GAAP tax rate of 16.9%, and a fully diluted share count of 57 million for GAAP and 58 million shares for non-GAAP. We expect CapEx for the fiscal third quarter of 2023 to be in the range of $11 million to $14 million. For the fiscal year 2023 ending June 30, 2023, we are maintaining our guidance for revenue -- our guidance for revenues from a range of $6.5 billion to $7.5 billion, GAAP diluted net income per share from a range of $8.50 to $11 and non-GAAP diluted net income per share from a range of $9 to $11.30. The company's projections for GAAP annual net income assume a tax rate of 19.2% and a rate of 19.8% for non-GAAP net income. For fiscal year '23, we are assuming a fully diluted share count of 57 million shares for GAAP and 58 million shares for non-GAAP. The outlook for fiscal year 2023 fully diluted GAAP EPS excludes approximately $33 million in expected stock-based compensation and other expenses, net of tax effects that are excluded from non-GAAP diluted net income per common share. We remain confident in our long-term outlook for robust revenue growth and profitability driven by our leading-edge new platforms, design wins, market share gains, and engagement with significant new global customers. And Michael, we're now ready for Q&A.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Nehal Chokshi with Northland Capital Markets.

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#6

Congratulations on the strong results, especially gross margin and the guidance that implies a very resilient gross margin. Dave, you did mention that you're expecting 30 basis points of the Q-over-Q downtick due to macro pressures. I mean that's a de minimis amount. Can you discuss why only that amount?

David Weigand

executive
#7

Well, Nehal, our margins are holding up. We expected a downtick last -- in this Q2, but it didn't happen. But we're still allowing for a downtick just in case we have to sharpen our pencil on some particular deals. But otherwise, our prices and margins are holding up.

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#8

And so then can you talk about why you think your margins are indeed holding up in what appears to be a pretty quickly deteriorating macro environment?

David Weigand

executive
#9

Well, we have customers that are -- that have pushed out orders, certainly, Nehal. But we still bring value to our customers, and that value has not diminished. And in fact, with all of the new designs that are coming out, it's -- we believe it's increased.

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#10

Got it. That's great. And then you're maintaining your fiscal year '23 guidance despite outperformance in the December quarter and you're providing at least March guidance above my expectations. So how should we be reading that implied June Q guidance basically? Should we be -- if we take it to low end of the fiscal year '23 guidance, you could be looking at a pretty dire gross margin situation with the June Q. Is that the correct interpretation?

David Weigand

executive
#11

No. I would say, Nehal, that really we are -- we don't want to update our guidance. We're confident in our guidance and the ranges that we've given. And so, really, we're just -- we're watching the macroeconomic situation. But we remain confident in our basic business fundamentals and in our values and the value that our products bring.

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#12

Okay. And so just to be clear, there is no reasonable basis for believing that gross margin would drop to the low end of your -- what's arguably still a target model of 14% to 17% in the June quarter or lower. Is that correct?

David Weigand

executive
#13

So we -- right now, we don't see any degradation of our gross margins, as I mentioned. And so -- but we feel like -- we remain confident in our ranges and we don't believe this is a time to update them.

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#14

And then Charles made a comment that he expects fiscal year '23 revenue to be, I think, at least 30% year-over-year growth or mid-30%. But your overall fiscal year '23 guidance range is still a pretty large bracket. So how should we be reconciling these 2 things here?

David Weigand

executive
#15

Well, I think that, that number of mid-30s, that still falls within the range, right, Nehal?

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#16

Absolutely.

David Weigand

executive
#17

Yes. So that -- so I think that's some indication.

Operator

operator
#18

Our next question comes from Ananda Baruah with Loop Capital.

Ananda Baruah

analyst
#19

Just a few if I could. So maintaining actually -- I think slightly raising the midpoint of the fiscal year guide, March is below where Street is. The implication is June is above where Street is. And so is it really just a matter of kind of Street -- like we, and I think I'm part of this, sort of had mis-modeled March to the low side and subsequently we're also mis-modeling June? Well, we mis-modeled March to the high side and we're mis-modeling June to the low side. Just a clarification -- just your thoughts on that. And I have a couple of follow-ups.

David Weigand

executive
#20

Sure. So again, I'll kind of go back. And we're -- because things have been changing economically and we had some -- we've seen some push-outs, not cancellations, again, push-outs, we feel like we shouldn't be adding more details on our annual -- on Q4 or annual guidance. And so really we feel like the guidance ranges that we gave allow for where we think performance will land. And so to give more specificity to that, at a time when details are not easy to -- are not as clear to see, we think is the wrong way to go. And so instead, we're giving good guidance on what we see in the quarter ahead. But again, we're still comfortable with our annual guidance.

Ananda Baruah

analyst
#21

And it sounded, I think -- I believe Charles mentioned -- and actually, just please clarify this for me if this is inaccurate -- something about kind of macro is softer, but recovery in the second half of calendar year '23. And if I heard that accurately, is that to say you guys envision the first half of the calendar year being sort of the softest part of macro for you? And you also made comments, Dave, about returning calendar '23 to seasonality. And so first half is the soft spot. Second half you guys think sort of normal seasonality plus "recovery begins" and that dovetails into your fiscal year '24 outlook. And so contextually, I just want to ask, is that how you guys are thinking about it?

Charles Liang

executive
#22

Yes. The macroeconomic headwind issue is some concern to everyone now. But other than that, indeed, our demand is still pretty strong, especially -- as you know, Intel just launched Sapphire Rapids; AMD, Genoa; and NVIDIA, Hopper H100. So we have very strong product available. And this time, we saw customer very aggressively asking, for example, for early seeding. So we believe these will put in big growth. And -- however, the really big growth in volume should be in about summer or even after summer time frame. So long-term, we have a very strong confidence, especially after summer. But before summer, depends on the macroeconomic headwinds. We try to be more cautious.

Ananda Baruah

analyst
#23

Very helpful, Charles. And Charles, last for me. I believe you mentioned potential for more large data centers in the second half of calendar '23. Did I hear that accurately? And are those incremental data centers, if I heard it accurately? And any more context you could provide around that?

Charles Liang

executive
#24

Yes. I mean, as you know, we start to approach large accounts since maybe 1 year ago. So we continue to gain interest from those CSP and larger accounts. And that's why we increased Taiwan capacity for lower production cost to support those larger accounts. And we even started a big campus in Malaysia. So the goal is to increase our production capacity and lower our operation and production costs so that we are able to support those larger accounts with reasonable profitability. So we continued to gain some engagement and interest from larger accounts around the world indeed. And also at the same time, we also start to engage with lots of midsized accounts, especially those through B2B and B2C. So we are engaging with a much broader customer base now.

Operator

operator
#25

Our next question comes from Mehdi Hosseini with SIG.

Mehdi Hosseini

analyst
#26

A couple of follow-ups. It seems like the price decline in the December quarter has more to do with the mix. And I am assuming that the OEM and large data center mix went down from 50% in September to 42% in December. And in that context, my question to you is how should I think of the mix in the March quarter, and how will that impact unit and ASP trends?

Charles Liang

executive
#27

In March quarter, because of the market headwind, so we still try to be cautious. But after summer, our feeling become much stronger because a lot of good products, lots of engagement from larger accounts, middle sized account and even small -- a lot of small accounts.

Mehdi Hosseini

analyst
#28

So Charles, just around on this point so I understand. Would the mix of revenue from OEM and large data centers decline again in the March quarter?

Charles Liang

executive
#29

Yes.

Mehdi Hosseini

analyst
#30

Okay.

Charles Liang

executive
#31

I would have to say yes.

Mehdi Hosseini

analyst
#32

Okay. And then I want to understand how you see the ramp of these 3 different CPUs. You have always -- you've historically been a close partner of Intel, AMD and NVIDIA. How long in advance do you actually procure those components in advance of building the boxes? How much of an inventory commitment or working capital commitment do you have to make before the actual high volume manufacturing takes place?

Charles Liang

executive
#33

Indeed, we have a very close partnership with all of our vendors. So in this area, I believe we are similar to the industry standard or slightly better. David, if you may add some...

David Weigand

executive
#34

Yes. Mehdi, things have improved recently, as you know, on the supply chain side. So we used to -- have to procure further in advance. And so one of the reasons our inventories have come down, one of the reasons our cash flows have increased -- and by the way, we had net income the last 2 quarters of $360 million, we had free cash flow of $454 million. And so again, the reason for that is we had to invest less money in inventory. So our ability to produce products is faster now because we can buy later in the cycle. But to your point on the timing, some of it is going to be dependent on when in the quarter our customers are taking the bulk of their products. So if we have early quarter shipments versus late quarter shipments, that can affect the timing of our inventory and accounts payable.

Mehdi Hosseini

analyst
#35

Got you. Okay. And then one last question for me on the balance sheet, especially with the Malaysia facility coming online. Are you still targeting like a $45 million of CapEx for fiscal year '23? Or more or less?

David Weigand

executive
#36

Yes. So a fair question. So we're going to add in -- for Q3, we're adding a $4 million of CapEx for Malaysia and we'll add $9 million in Q4 -- in our Q4 for Malaysia. So that'll be $13 million for the second -- for our fiscal second half. And then -- this is going to be an investment over a couple -- over several years. And so the -- we'll make another $13 million in the first half of fiscal '24. So that's not -- that's giving you a little more insight on that investment.

Mehdi Hosseini

analyst
#37

Should I assume that just the maintenance CapEx outside of Malaysia is what, $8 million to $10 million a quarter?

David Weigand

executive
#38

Yes, that's correct. So to your question, yes, you can maintain the $45 million and just add in the figures that I just gave you.

Operator

operator
#39

Our final question comes from Nehal Chokshi with Northland Capital Markets.

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#40

I get to lead off and clean up. Awesome. So relative to seasonal patterns and excluding the 21.9% customer from the September quarter, how did the business actually perform in the December quarter then?

David Weigand

executive
#41

So the December quarter was an outstanding quarter on -- in every respect. And so from free cash flow, inventory, all the metrics were strong, cash position. So as you mentioned, customer -- no customer concentration. And so we feel we had a really good -- a really great quarter.

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#42

Okay. Great. I mean my interpretation here is that the core business excluding that one 20-plus percent customer from the September quarter was up more than seasonal. Is that a correct interpretation?

David Weigand

executive
#43

Well, we always have customers that will take -- when we have design wins, Nehal, we'll always -- from quarter-to-quarter, we'll always have shipments -- large shipments to customers. Sometimes it's according -- sometimes they change their forecast and we ship a little bit more in one quarter than another. So we can't control that always. But as we said, as the supply chain has improved -- that was -- that dynamic was felt a lot harder during the supply chain crunch. Now that we've returned to a better supply chain, therefore, that's why we feel we'll return to more normal seasonalities. But that can always be altered by a new design win that we get in 1 quarter or over 2 quarters.

Charles Liang

executive
#44

Yes, basically -- I mean, in '22, we had some larger accounts. But in fiscal year '23, now we are adding more larger accounts. So we are growing in more larger accounts and more middle-sized accounts and also B2B, B2C. So indeed, our customer mix is becoming much more diversified, much more healthier. And for sure, the volume will be bigger. That's why we expand to Malaysia for the really lower cost operation and campus.

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#45

And presumably, just diversification with the larger customers is coming on the higher margin plug-and-play rack-scale products. Is that correct?

Charles Liang

executive
#46

We hope so. So anyway, that's -- we feel we still have lots of room to add more customers. And once we have a higher capacity in U.S.A., Taiwan, Malaysia, our plan is to add lots of more customers.

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#47

Okay. Great. And then is there a particular vertical that you guys are seeing the push-outs from that you were talking about for the December quarter, Dave?

Charles Liang

executive
#48

A large data center, right.

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#49

The push-outs were not in data -- large data center.

David Weigand

executive
#50

Well, he was saying that they were in large data center, but so...

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#51

In the large data centers. Okay.

David Weigand

executive
#52

Yes. Yes.

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#53

Got it. Okay. All right. Very good. And then for the March quarter, you're guiding to an 18% Q-over-Q decline in revenue. There is clearly obviously some seasonality with March quarter. Then there might be, I guess, ongoing push-outs from the large data center customers. And then there's also a macro element. Are these the 3 major elements that are driving the 18% Q-over-Q decline? And then could you potentially help parse out what are --rank in order these 3 drivers here?

David Weigand

executive
#54

So Nehal, if you look back pre-COVID, our typical Q3 decline was 12%, okay? So that was just -- that was during the time of normal seasonal patterns. During COVID, there was a different dynamic, of course, because supply was scarce. But we think as we return to normalized supply, that we will have this kind of seasonality.

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#55

Okay. And then as far as the potential runoff of the large customer versus macro, any input as far as what's the driver there as far as the -- above the 12% typical Q-to-Q decline?

David Weigand

executive
#56

Well, we're engaging with new customers all the time. And so we're not looking to be declining; in fact, just the opposite. So while we will have some seasonality as -- and a stable supply chain, we still have our growth plans that are intact and that we remain confident in.

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#57

Okay. All right. Great. And then my last question here is, did I hear correctly that there's a new buyback that was implemented, something about a $200 million buyback? Can you just clarify that?

David Weigand

executive
#58

No, that's the existing already approved buyback.

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#59

Got it. Okay. And so now that you guys have worked yourself back to a net cash position with the strong free cash flow that you've highlighted over the past 2 quarters, is it reasonable to expect that you guys are going to put that back to work now?

David Weigand

executive
#60

Well, of course. It's up -- yes, it's completely up to the Board, completely up to the Board. But I think it's certainly reasonable.

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#61

Okay. Great. We got one Board member here. Charles, your thoughts?

Charles Liang

executive
#62

Pardon?

Nehal Chokshi

analyst
#63

Your thoughts on utilizing the buyback?

Charles Liang

executive
#64

That's why I said, the PE is so low and cash flow is strong. Why not?

Operator

operator
#65

We have a question from Mehdi Hosseini with SIG.

Mehdi Hosseini

analyst
#66

Yes. Just a quick follow up. Just a clarification. And David, did you imply or did you say that the 10% plus customer that you had in September quarter of last year is going to come back? Or you're going to have another 10% plus customer in the coming quarters?

David Weigand

executive
#67

Yes, the...

Mehdi Hosseini

analyst
#68

I thought it was very confusing.

David Weigand

executive
#69

Yes. So Mehdi, the 10% customer we had a year ago, September, is a different customer, okay? The 22% customer that we had in the recent September quarter, again, a different customer, was below -- was -- did not constitute 10% of our revenues in Q2. Did I clarify that?

Mehdi Hosseini

analyst
#70

Sure. And just as a follow up, do you expect that particular customer to come back? Is that what the confidence behind the June quarter is?

David Weigand

executive
#71

Well, we have -- so Mehdi, we...

Charles Liang

executive
#72

Indeed with our new product, indeed very strong offering. So we expect any time we will have more new larger customer. Or old customer coming back is always a very high possibility. And we are working with them very closely still. The partnership becomes stronger ever.

Mehdi Hosseini

analyst
#73

That's really dynamic.

Charles Liang

executive
#74

Yes. There is some dynamic, yes.

David Weigand

executive
#75

We thrive on repeat business.

Operator

operator
#76

There are no further questions at this time. With that said, concludes today's conference. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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