Tekna Holding ASA (TEKNA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 23, 2024

Oslo Bors NO Materials Chemicals special 53 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#1

My name is Obaid, and I'm the founder of Investorweb. Today, I have the pleasure of moderating this presentation with Tekna. Joining me, we have Luc Dionne, who is the CEO of Tekna and CFO, Espen Schie. We also have IR, Arina. As always, you can submit questions during the presentation. But remember, if you are watching this presentation on LinkedIn, Facebook or YouTube, we will not be able to see your questions if you submit them on those platforms. In order for us to see the questions, you have to go to Tekna Holdings profile on Investorweb and submit your questions there. That's also for the viewers that are watching this presentation as a recording. You can still ask questions and the management will answer them in a written format on Investorweb. The format of the presentation is a slide presentation, 25 to 30 minutes, and after that, we will jump to Q&A, both the pre-submitted questions and the questions you have during this live presentation. And with that, I give the word to you, Luc.

Luc Dionne

executive
#2

Thank you, Obaid. Thank you, and welcome, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. So this presentation today [indiscernible] to our Q1 presentation that we have shared last week on May 15. So it should take about 30, 35 minutes. So let's jump in the presentation right now. Next slide please, Arina. So basically, about Tekna, who we are, our business segment portfolio, additive manufacturing, how we plan on harvesting the potential of that fast-growing segment, a few words from our financial performance that Espen will share with you and then conclusion and Q&A. Moving on to the next slide. And the next slide, please. So I will introduce you basically to Tekna. So Tekna, who are we? We are a world-leading provider of advanced materials and plasma systems. The company was founded in 1990. We have listed on the main board of the Oslo Stock Exchange in 2022. Our headquarters is located in Quebec, Canada. We are just over 200 employees. We have 2 production facilities, 2 research centers and have established a global reach with our sales force. When it comes to our revenue, 48% of our revenue is generated from customers in North America, 37% in Europe and 15% in Asia and the rest of the world. When it comes to the customer segments, 39% of our customers operate in the aerospace industry, 12% are actually 3D printing machines manufacturers, 7% medical implant manufacturers, 5% consumer electronics, and I will say a few words about that later and 37% of our revenues come from other sectors such as the academic and industrial research. As you can see here on the right side, we have quite a distinguished list of high-class customer profile. I would not list them all, but you can see there that the -- if you're familiar with the aerospace industry that all the big players are there, Boeing Airbus, ArianeGroup in France, Thales and so on. So we're serving quite an important and very good list of customers. Next slide, please. So Tekna has developed from originally a company serving mostly R&D customers to a company today that has a global reach, delivering materials to over 200 customers globally. If you look on the top side, we have expanded our footprint in Europe, in China, in France, Korea and so on. And we also have managed through these years, if you can see there where our customer base started to change from 2014 when we started to industrialize metal powders up to 2024, where we grow to 200 customers, where we have managed to secure multiyear supply agreements with industry leaders such as Airbus and others that, unfortunately, we cannot disclose the name today, but this is telling us that this industry of additive manufacturing, which we will talk later on, is reaching a transition point towards a high industrial scale. Next slide. What we have done at Tekna is we have invented a process that allows us to take a raw material, which you can see on the top here, and this raw material could be various metal, and through a proprietary plasma torch that we have invented, we transform this raw material into a very fine micron-sized or nano-sized powder. And what is special about these powers that they have high purity. There are no contaminants once we are done with processing this material in our process. We have a high yield of production and a very high repeatable quality from batch to batch, which is very important when you cater to industries like the aerospace or medical industry. Next slide. The company is surfing on macro trends that are driving growth for every segment we are developing. Those macro trends can be Industry 4.0, climate and green transformation, space travel and defense spending, interest rates. And sometimes, it doesn't always favor you, but in the case of Tekna, it does favor us and also geopolitical shift as we can see around the world today. And how is this helping us? Well, every technology, every segment we are developing today have some benefits emerging from these macro trends. It could be the emergence of 3D printing, where you require more powder materials to print parts. It could be the requirement for low-carbon solutions. It can be increasing investment in research and materials development and so on. So these macro trends are favoring every -- and I'll mention a few things about that later also, they are favoring every segment we are developing today. Next slide. So in the following slide, I will share with you about our business lines. So basically, we have 2 main business lines. One is plasma systems and the other business line is advanced materials. In the plasma systems, what basically is a technology using a plasma torch, a concept that was developed by Tekna. We actually sell some of those small-scale units, which we call R&D plasma systems and also plasma wind tunnels, which I also will describe in the following slide. And with this technology, we have found a way to produce metal powders in the form of advanced materials. One of these segments is additive manufacturing, the other is microelectronics and the last one here, which is not developing right now is energy storage. I will go into the details of R&D of plasma systems on the next slide, starting with plasma wind tunnel. So plasma wind tunnels was developed by Tekna and launched a few years ago to cater to a growing industry. As you know, there are more and more satellites used for telecommunications. Hypersonic flights are getting popular. So we have developed this technology, which allows to replicate, here on the ground, some conditions that will be seen by the aircraft traveling through space or at very high velocity. We have built a portfolio of over nearly $300 million with potential sales over the next 10 years. And in that portfolio today, we have $35 million worth of customers who already have their budget approved. We expect that, by the end of this year or early next year, we will close one more of these orders, and then after, we expect to have more orders every 12 to 18 months afterwards. And you can see here the quality of customers that we are addressing with this technology. Boeing is there; Blue Origin; KIMS, that's a research institute; JAXA, which is Japan Aerospace and so on. So this are high-profile customers as I mentioned earlier. On the next slide, please. Our next segment here is Additive Manufacturing. So what is additive manufacturing. If you're not familiar, it's the cornerstone to the Industry 4.0 and it allows for digital manufacturing of metallic parts. Basically, you have on the left side, top left side, you have a 3D printer into which you feed metal powders such as those produced by Tekna, and you transform this powder into a finished good, which you can see on the top right side of the screen here. And the industry will use this technology to move from conventional manufacturing to 3D printed parts. And what are the main benefits that you get out of this technology? Well, you can see on the left side, there are multiple components that are composing this conventionally manufactured device there. And on the right side, well, basically, there's only one component. That was printed bottom-up in one shot. And that part on the right side is 40% lighter and 20% stronger than the one on the left. So that's the main reason why the industrials are marching towards 3D printing. Next slide. The other segment here is Multilayer Ceramic Capacitors. So Tekna is manufacturing a powder that is used to manufacture very small devices that we can see, maybe we can point at, Arina, on the screen here, very small devices called multilayer ceramic capacitors. And we find those MLCC in almost every electronic device that are out there today. In a cell phone, for example, you can have up to 1,000 of those little devices. Over 1 trillion MLCC are manufactured every year and that represents a market of over $14 billion. So Tekna has made quite some progress in developing in this segment and we are dealing today with the leaders of this industry. There's a handful of leaders in that segment, which make it very attractive. We have delivered our first revenue-generating order last April. And our powder today is undergoing trials with 2 prospective customers in their factories. So it's actually being factory tested. And we expect to have an update to the market in the second half of this year. So these are basically the 3 segments that are active at Tekna. So plasma systems and additive manufacturing are revenue generating and microelectronics, the slide we have here, is a potential upside to our investment case. Now on the next slides, I will go into more details about additive manufacturing and how do we plan on gaining a market position in this industry? So again, additive manufacturing is this technology where you take a powder, and you use this powder to print a finished good. We can go to the next slide. So on this slide, just to give you an idea of how the market is developing today. So I mentioned about printers and powders that are used to produce parts. On the graph on the left side, what you can see is a number of 3D printing machines that were sold per year every year since 2021 until 2023. And you see that this has grown by almost 25% every year with 3,793 printers, that's a lot of big number for printers sold in 2023. And on the right side, it's the growth of all types of materials used for printing parts with these printers. So you can see materials has grown about 25% as well. So what is driving this? I did mention a few reasons why earlier. And the big drivers here, aerospace, medical, consumer electronics. And this companies, they want to either optimize their production or reduce the use of scarce natural resources. So there's one good reason for adopting this additive technology. It will also allow them to shorten delivery lead time and/or go to market faster, and we're talking about here from cutting from years of development down to months or months down to weeks. So in a competitive environment, it makes a significant difference for customers who want to accelerate product introduction to the market. Of course, it makes your manufacturing much easier, your parts much lighter and if you reduce the number of components entering into the manufacturing of a part, you obviously streamline your supply chain along with it. So those are the main drivers that the industry are considering for the introduction of additive manufacturing technology. Next slide. So how has Tekna developed over time in this industry. So first of all, on the left side, you can see that we started in 2014 with very modest revenues, but we have steadily grown year after year from 2014 until 2023 every year, some slower years and you understand that this is an industry that is developing today. But what we have been able to do is to build a strong portfolio of very loyal customers. And today, in 2023, 80% of our revenues are generated from recurring customers that have been with us 2 years or more. And well, here, you can see on the right side, 70 customers that are established with Tekna for 3 years or more, that was 66% of our revenue. Our powders are qualified with the most prominent aerospace OEMs and Tier 1, so the Tier 1s here represent the suppliers to the OEMs in the aerospace, mainly. And that we're talking about 45 customers here in this very short list out of the 70. We have managed to sign master supply agreements with Airbus namely and other undisclosed customers. Again, we would like to disclose them, but we cannot because of our NDA. But you can see that every month, we deliver to almost all of these customers some orders, and we've seen the average order size growing year after year. And the qualification time in this industry, if we talk about aerospace and medical, it's quite long and it's quite costly. So this is why we say this industry has a sticky business model for Tekna. And it has also a limited competition with maybe 3 or 4 relevant competitors when we refer to the materials that Tekna is addressing in that industry. Next slide. So what we are doing to grow our revenues in that industry? If you recall the previous slide, in 2023, we had $26 million in revenues for additive manufacturing materials. In 2027, we are targeting to reach at least CAD 70 million, and that is in line with the estimated market growth around 25% to 30%. And the growth we are aiming to reach will come basically from the addition of new atomizers, so atomizers are machines, plasma machines, used to produce these powder materials. We're going to add 3 of those in the next year. We have a concrete plan for productivity improvement and performance enhancement of the existing machines we have in our factory. We actually have 5 of them now. And this plan for improvement will also favor the 3 new atomizers we are implementing. In addition to this, we also plan on optimizing the sales mix of the materials that we are selling, meaning basically that we will be targeting markets that offer better price and better margins for our products. So in addition to these 3 machines and this improvement plan, we have identified further potential for improvements that we also plan to implement in the next 4 years, including this year. So with this further improvement plan, we expect that we will reach the production generated by each atomizer will reach $8.5 million by 2027 should we be successful with this additional potential improvement? If we are not, well, we still have the $7.5 million in revenue generated by each machine. And the beauty of this is that we will be able to achieve this growth with limited capital expenditure. A lot of investment has been done in the past year, and now we are starting to get the benefits out of those investments. So the 3 new atomizers we will be implementing are already manufactured to date and the CapEx required for those is limited to the minor adjustments and the installation of the atomizers in our factory. And then we plan on an average of $2 million per year for utilities and peripheral equipment in support of the growth for this Additive Manufacturing segment. Next slide. So I'll pass to you Espen?

Espen Schie

executive
#3

Yes. Thank you, Luc. Can we move to the next slide, please. Great. So Tekna has sustained growth over a very long period of time, long beyond the 5 years that we see on the screen as also Luc presented. Despite the last years, we have seen very turbulent years with supply chain constraints, political and trade restrictions, COVID, all of these essentially living challenges that we have overcome in this period. The growth is a testament of successful scaling of the business, and it's relatively early still in most of our customers' markets as our customers are scaling their production processes for additive manufacturing. On the screen here, in particular, I would like to highlight the more than 2x growth in material sales on the right side and a stable between 9% to 15% revenues, mainly revenue on the system business. This kind of picture also reflects how we see the company's future where the system business is a bit bulky, but it is stable over time and that we have significant growth within the materials business. On the left side, also on the margin side, we have bounced back in '23 to historical or better margins, which we also expect to continue. And this is also something that we also saw in Q1 this year that we presented last week. We can move to the next slide, please. Yes. So here, we are looking at the trailing 12 months' performance, revenues on the left and adjusted EBITDA on the right. Both graphs exhibit a trend of cumulative improvements over Q1 last year with revenues up 35% and an EBITDA improvement of $5.7 million. And despite the slower start in Q1 this year, we are in an upward trajectory in performance. We can still expect some quarter-to-quarter variations. It's still a developing market. But nonetheless, it's very encouraging to see the improvements in these key metrics that we have focused a lot on in the last years. So all in all, and [indiscernible] concluding here, the focus on increasing capacity, controlling operating costs is enhancing and strengthening the resilience of our business model, and we are positioning Tekna to maintain this momentum that we see and that we have built over the last period, which we try to also continue with this in the future. So thank you, and I will now hand back to Luc for concluding remarks.

Luc Dionne

executive
#4

Thank you, Espen. Next slide. Okay. Thank you, Arina. So basically, if I want to summarize the growth opportunities for Tekna, those are driven by technology and supply chain transition that we see across multiple industries, aerospace, medical, consumer electronics and so on. The additive materials sales guidance is for Tekna to deliver at least $70 million in revenues by 2027. And this is for this segment alone. We expect that plasma solution pipeline would deliver growth for Tekna. We have currently CAD 35 of prospect customers who have their budget approved today. We expect potential upside that we'll be further developing with our multilayer ceramic capacitor materials. And of course, we are maintaining a strong focus on cash management and cash flow, improving our cash conversion by improving the yields of the sale of powders. And also after many years of CapEx-intensive investment, we expect to gradually ease CapEx in the coming period. Next slide, please. If we look at the indicators, basically, from the revenue growth, well, 2022 was pretty flat coming straight out of the COVID, but we managed to keep the company afloat and run through it. In fiscal year, you can see how 2023 was a fantastic year for Tekna with 52% year-on-year growth. And on the long term, a little bit more conservative approach. From '24 to '27, we expect from the Additive Manufacturing segment, an annual growth between 25% and 30%. From the adjusted EBITDA margin, we are improving minus 48%, minus 10% and then aiming for a 20% adjusted EBITDA by 2027. CapEx, $6 million in '22 to $8.1 million in '23. And then as we said, this will be easing off in the following period, $5 million, including $4 million in growth CapEx for '24 and then $3 million to $4 million in average per year for the following years. And the last but not least performance indicator is for our potential upside for multilayer ceramic capacitors. Our goal is to at least reach an industrial scaleup with at least one qualified customer in this segment in the period of '24 to '27. So I guess with that, we managed to fit that in a very tight but interesting period. Thank you very much for listening. And I think for going back to you, Obaid, for the question.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#5

Perfect. Thank you. Thank you very much for the slide presentation. Maybe we can start by introducing Arina.

Arina van Oost

executive
#6

Yes. Hello. Good evening. My name is Arina van Oost, I'm Vice President, responsible for Investor Relations. Nice to see you all today.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#7

Thank you very much. Remember, guys, if you have any questions, we cannot see your questions if you submit them through all the social media channels. So you have to submit them on Tekna's profile on Investorweb. And remember you can also ask or submit questions if you are watching this presentation as a recording. Okay. Let's start by going through some questions here. We got a question from [indiscernible]. I hope I pronounced that correctly. What proportion of your sales of metals is recurring?

Luc Dionne

executive
#8

Recurring portion, 80% of our sales come from recurring customers. And we're talking about powder sales, right?

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#9

I guess, Paul, maybe you can follow up on that question. Another question here. Can you talk about your main competitors?

Luc Dionne

executive
#10

The industry for additive manufacturing has -- I would not name my competitors, if you don't mind. I'll let them do their own marketing campaign, right? But our competitors, both of them has been established before Tekna in the industry. But what we have managed to do in a very short period of time, what Tekna has managed to do in a short period of time is to become the first or second, depending on the industry or the territory, we've managed to become the first or second lead supplier in this additive manufacturing industry. So that's how we have grown our position.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#11

Okay. I can go through some presubmitted questions there. Given the growing demand in additive manufacturing, how does Tekna plan to balance investments between this segment and the promising but less developed microelectronic markets?

Espen Schie

executive
#12

Yes. I can take that. So I will give 2 -- this answer is twofold. Additive manufacturing first, as you pointed out, is very interesting and indeed developing very quickly and with very high-tech customers. These are also the most demanding and most developed customers or industrial complexes in the world. We have invested heavily in this area for many years. And here, our business is about scaling up the industrial production. We have 1 machine here that is going live this year. We have 2 more machines that is already built, and we are waiting to set them live to capture the demand in a timely manner. So here, we have some flexibility to actually put them live as we see demand fit. And since these are then all essentially built, what we need of remaining CapEx is just to install them, so there would be in the area of about $4 million to cater for this with building CapEx. So that is of gases, utilities and things like that. And then Luc mentioned, improvement on machine production performance. So this is a very capital-light way of getting more production output. So this is another way we are investing, but it's improving our machine work. So as we see then this installation of the growth CapEx and this production performance would be enough to meet the growing demand for additive manufacturing. For microelectronics, the other part of the question, here, we do have a pilot line today for R&D purposes. And this requires very limited equipment CapEx today. It's more in a sense of R&D stuff and the CapEx for what we need right now is essentially already taken. On the other hand, should we get a commercial breakthrough for this product line, we will propose a CapEx plan to cater for this market or a customer or customers that is potentially here. And there's a handful of large, very large potential customers in Asia producing MLCCs today that we are working with.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#13

We can maybe talk -- one question here, just one second. There's a question there. How will you bridge the parent funding gap to reach breakeven, from Paul?

Espen Schie

executive
#14

As we see today, we have sufficient capital as it is. We still have a quite a working capital that we are decreasing. And then with the scaling and the limited CapEx, I think the funding that today is sufficient.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#15

Okay. Another question here. What is your estimated market share within the relevant markets?

Luc Dionne

executive
#16

According to our internal data, our market share is around 20% for the market we are addressing. A quick answer, because it's a complicated topic, market share in an industry where there is very few numbers available and independent studies available.

Arina van Oost

executive
#17

So to be clear, you're talking additive manufacturing.

Luc Dionne

executive
#18

We're talking about additive manufacturing, of course, thank you Arina for pointing this out because for PlasmaSonic, basically the kind of equipment we are producing, we are the only company known as an integrator of these entire solutions.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#19

We can go back to the presubmitted questions. Could you elaborate on how the newly developed universal and reusable containers for additive materials are expected to impact the operational efficiency and the customer satisfaction? What are the anticipated cost savings and environmental benefits?

Arina van Oost

executive
#20

Yes. So I'll take that one. So we've developed the container to get away from the single-use packaging that we have today. So we're using plastic containers and aluminum bottles that are single use in a sense because they are contaminated with the metal powders and cannot be easily reused because they have to be cleaned before. So for us, it streamlines the packaging process at Tekna. Logistically, it helps because the container can be shipped instead of air transport, which is now required for those plastic packaging. So there is obviously an environmental and a cost benefit to the logistics or both. It also improves the loading process of the 3D printers. So for our customers, it is much more efficient to load the machines instead of using small containers to fill every time and it also has a safety aspect on their side. So we see many benefits of this. So for the first or early adopter, specific customer, we estimated the reductions in CO2 emissions. And based on their sales forecast for the next 5 years, we would reduce about 1 million tonnes of CO2 equivalents. So it's really significant, the change that it can bring for Tekna and this is not even taking into account the different shipping methods. So really based only on the plastics and aluminum single-use packaging.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#21

Here's a question about the geographic revenue distribution. Espen, you talked a little bit about it. But with a significant portion of revenue coming from Europe and Asia, what specific strategies is Tekna employing to increase the market penetration in other markets, like North America?

Luc Dionne

executive
#22

I will take this one. Well, today, our revenues are -- 48% come from North America already and other 50% from Europe and Asia. So basically, over the years, what we have done is we have managed to develop sales force and distributors globally. And this strategy is the same in the U.S., in Europe and in Asia. And our goal is to develop each continent with the same workforce catering each customer in their own language as much as possible and in their own time zone. The goal is to have all these countries develop at the same time. So it makes us more vulnerable in the event of any more political issues in those countries. But so far, that has been our strategy, and it's been very successful for us.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#23

I got a follow-up question from [indiscernible]. He asked, "I understand you do not want to name competitors, but could you please estimate what market shares you have within metallic powders? How many relevant competitors are we talking about? And what are their relative size compared to you?"

Luc Dionne

executive
#24

We're talking about -- and thank you for coming back with the question because I took a note here about saying a little bit more about our competitors. So basically, in the additive manufacturing industry, for the metals we are manufacturing, we're talking about 3 to 4 competitors at most. Some are located in North America, others in Europe. Basically, we are #1, #2 with the market share against all these 4 competitors. Maybe it's important to understand how we manage to get this market position. Basically, the technology we have developed, which is a plasma technology, allows us to produce a material that provides the customer with a very high batch-to-batch consistency. And that is critical in an environment where every part has to be inspected, quality controlled and implemented in a body or installed on an aircraft. So what our technology allows us to do is provide our customers with repeatability of quality of the material. That's how we manage to claim -- we just started it 10 years ago. Our customers were there like, some of them have been there 15 years and more before us. So what we've done with our technology, we've managed to take away some market shares and positioned ourselves with supply agreement with the large OEMs that I've mentioned earlier.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#25

Thank you very much for elaborating on that. Let's go back. Despite a soft start to the year, you have maintained growth and margin improvement guidance for the remainder of the year. Can you provide more detail on the key initiatives that will drive this improvement?

Espen Schie

executive
#26

Yes, I can take that one. So we do expect main improvements coming from revenue volumes, but also from costs and the fact that we are keeping a relatively stable cost base. Volumes and margins from the system business is in part driven by increase of standardization in production as well as a very good PlasmaSonic pipeline that we have coming in the next years. On the materials business, volume and margins is driven by a combination of our increased prices, and we have also managed to reduce or negotiate better raw material prices that we purchase. So I think a combination of these two.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#27

The order backlog has decreased compared to Q1 2023, particularly in the system segments. Can you discuss the factors behind this decline?

Espen Schie

executive
#28

Yes. I can start with this, and I can give it to Luc for follow-up. Just to explain a little bit first on how the systems backlog work is that it is sort of natural volatile because of how the order intake and the sales process works. So just to explain that these are very large machines, which qualifies us essentially that's investments for our customers. So these sales processes are typically long and diligent. So it means we can go several quarters without orders. And then suddenly, we can have a lot of new orders coming in, in a single quarter. So it does mean that we have good alignment with the customer, and we have a decent visibility also in the future for the pipeline that we are working with, but there could be timing and shift of decisions on this. Now I'll let Luc take the rest of the questions.

Luc Dionne

executive
#29

Yes, yes. And we have to address this issue of, I would say, volatile pipeline. This is why we launched the PlasmaSonic product line a few years ago, exactly to avoid or smooth out these variations. So when we sell a PlasmaSonic system, we're talking about the sales of about $10 million per unit. That compares to maybe $1 million or $2 million per unit for the smaller systems that Espen was referring to. So this is one way to sort of stabilize our order book from plasma systems and revenues throughout the year.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#30

Thank you very much. Guys, remember that if you are watching this presentation as a recording, you can still submit questions, and the management will answer them in written format next week. Okay. Tekna has made notable progress in decarbonization efforts, including improving the performance of optimization systems and reducing the logistic emissions. What are the next steps in your decarbonization road map?

Arina van Oost

executive
#31

Well, I guess, those projects that you mentioned are really ongoing, because they are our key focus projects to reducing our emissions. So it's improving the performance of our optimization systems, and there's really still room to improve further, how much electricity we use to produce powder. So we will continue to work on that. Obviously, the packaging, as I mentioned before, and the logistics emissions. And 2023 was the first year that we actually measured those emissions, and they are significantly higher than any of the other categories that we have identified. So we immediately launched a project with our logistics employees to see where we can do better on that. We've set some targets for Scope 1 and 2 to reduce by 50% in 2030. And our current forecast is that we will meet or exceed those reduction targets. There is another reduction opportunity, which is obviously the recycled materials. I guess that is an obvious next step for Tekna. I think that, that opportunity will materialize once the industry becomes more accessible for less regulated industries. So today, we deliver mostly to aerospace and medical, where traceability is a big factor. And obviously, with recycled materials that becomes very complex to manage. So we see that once additive manufacturing moves into a further maturity phase, we will have opportunities to reduce our emissions that way as well.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#32

There's a question regarding market trends and challenges. In the rapidly evolving landscape of advanced materials and plasma systems, what emerging trends do you foresee having the more significant impact on Tekna's business model?

Luc Dionne

executive
#33

I did not hear the question well.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#34

Do you foresee any -- okay, let me read it again. What emerging trends do you foresee having the most significant impact on Tekna's business model? That's the question.

Luc Dionne

executive
#35

Which emerging trend, oh, my God, I think there's not only one. There's many of them. The Industry 4.0 has direct relationship with additive manufacturing. The global, I would say, the trade tensions around the world are forcing or motivating companies to reshore manufacturing, quantify new suppliers. Every day, almost every week now, there's a shuttle or a rocket going to space, bringing some satellites up there. So this is also favoring some of our product lines. So I mean every macro trend out there that you can tell today is helping favorably Tekna's growth now and in the future.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#36

Thank you. I see a few more questions in the live chat. We don't have to answer those questions right now, but the management will answer them next week. So let's take a few more presubmited questions. Given the dual focus on plasma systems and advanced materials, I think you answered this question. The Q1 report mentions that atomizer commission in Q4 2023 is running at full capacity and production is ramping up on newly installed machines. Can you provide more details on how these developments will impact your production capacity and order fulfillment time lines? Any bottlenecks issue?

Luc Dionne

executive
#37

Well, first question is how is this helping us? Definitely, it is reducing our delivery lead time. So in Q1, you noticed that the revenues were slightly lower. We took advantage of this time. We built inventory. And now with this inventory that we have built, we are able to respond faster with earlier deliveries to our customers. And we see this dynamic has already started in Q2 with these quick deliveries. And we anticipate bottlenecks in the factory. I would say, bottlenecks were anticipated actually before when we started to increase capacity. So short answer is, no. We're addressing these bottlenecks as we move along, increasing capacity across the line as we move along with the implementation of these new machines.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#38

Another question from Q1 2024 report. The report note efforts to improve operational efficiencies such as increasing production output while minimizing emissions increases. Can you provide more details on the specific initiatives or technologies that have contributed to these efficiency gains?

Espen Schie

executive
#39

Yes. I can say something on this. First of all, I would just like to mention that in Quebec, which is where Tekna is in Canada. It's a state which has only hydropower for electricity. Our machines are quite demanding in terms of the electricity. But since we have hydropower, this is 100% clean. It's very similar to what we have in Norway. But luckily in Quebec, we don't have any cables to any markets that have very expensive electricity. So Quebec essentially sets his own price. So it's good for price and it's good for our cost and is also good for emissions. Other than that for the efficiency gain, so I'd like to answer that in a way that what we're doing here is essentially keeping the operational setup and the operational base stable. So it's about increasing value generation per person. So it's more revenue per person or more gross profit per person. So this is what we mean by productivity or efficiency. So yes, so it's delivering more sales, production and support to our customers. Some examples here, we have invested in software and streamlining processes to be able to cater for higher volumes. We have a fully integrated cloud-based ERP and the CRM platform that's all on the same software. We continue to develop this. We are, this year, also installing a new and better laboratory software. And since we essentially expect the demand to increase for all the foreseeable future, it's very natural for us to ask ourselves how we can do today's task more efficiently. And we have a very strong continuous improvement culture in Tekna. So I think it's a little bit, the nature of this answer, I think.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#40

It's an ongoing process?

Espen Schie

executive
#41

Continuous.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#42

Continues, yes. Perfect. I think that was the last question. Do you guys want to add something before we get out the stream?

Luc Dionne

executive
#43

Well, maybe just as a conclusion, just to remind everyone, Tekna is a company that is organized to cater to among the largest companies in the world today. The largest OEMs in aerospace, medical players. We have a super potential upside with the MLCC industry. And so if you have any more questions, please just post them next week or today whenever, we'll be happy to answer them. And thanks for listening.

Obaid Saleem

attendee
#44

Thank you very much. And to the viewers who've submitted the questions now that we cannot answer. I apologize. The management will answer them next week, a written answer on Investorweb. And as always, see you next time. Thanks.

Arina van Oost

executive
#45

Thank you.

Luc Dionne

executive
#46

Thank you.

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