The North West Company Inc. ($NWC)

Earnings Call Transcript · April 8, 2026

TSX CA Consumer Staples Consumer Staples Distribution and Retail Earnings Calls 25 min

Highlights from the call

In the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025, The North West Company Inc. (NWC:CA) reported consolidated sales growth of 0.5% year-over-year, driven by a 5.4% increase in International Operations, while Canadian sales faced headwinds, leading to a 7.7% decline in net earnings. The company highlighted challenges in Canadian operations due to reduced funding programs, contrasting with strong performance in the Caribbean and Alaska. Management maintained cautious guidance for Q1 2026, anticipating continued impacts from funding reductions but expecting some offset from increased First Nations Child in Care Settlement payments.

Main topics

  • Sales Performance: Consolidated sales increased by 0.5% year-over-year, with Canadian same-store sales down 2.8% compared to a strong 6.7% increase last year. Management noted, "Sales and earnings in Canada were negatively impacted by reduced money in market," highlighting the challenges faced in the Canadian segment.
  • International Operations Strength: International Operations delivered strong results with sales up 5.4% and EBIT up 9%, supported by a solid tourist season in the Caribbean. Management stated, "The tourist season in the Caribbean was positive compared to last year," indicating robust demand in these markets.
  • Next 100 Program Progress: Management indicated that they are approximately 50% to 60% through the Next 100 initiatives, which aim to improve operational efficiencies and inventory management. They expressed optimism about the program's future benefits, stating, "We're really optimistic and positive about what this is going to deliver for us in the future."
  • Impact of Funding Reductions: The elimination of the Inuit Child First Initiative food voucher program and reduced funding for Jordan's Principle programs are expected to continue impacting Canadian sales in Q1 2026. Management noted, "We expect these impacts in the first quarter to be partially offset from an increase in consumer demand from First Nations Child in Care Settlement payments."
  • Gross Profit and Expenses: Gross profit decreased by 2% for the quarter, with a gross profit rate decline of 74 basis points. Management attributed this to "changes in sales mix, including changes in aircraft utilization and higher aircraft maintenance costs over North Star Air."

Key metrics mentioned

  • Consolidated Sales: $N/A (up 0.5% YoY, vs 4.9% increase in Q4 2024)
  • Canadian Same-Store Sales: -2.8% (vs 6.7% increase in Q4 2024)
  • International Sales Growth: 5.4% (strong performance in Caribbean and Alaska)
  • Net Earnings: down 7.7% (compared to an 18.9% increase in Q4 last year)
  • Gross Profit Rate: down 74 basis points (compared to a 141 basis point increase last year)
  • Adjusted EBITDA: up 1.3% (excluding share-based compensation and one-time costs)

The mixed results in Q4 2025, particularly the decline in Canadian sales, raise concerns about the company's short-term outlook. However, the strength in International Operations and the ongoing Next 100 program provide a foundation for potential recovery. Investors should monitor the impact of funding changes and geopolitical factors on future performance.

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

Operator
#1

Please be advised that this conference call is being recorded. Welcome to The North West Company Inc. Fourth Quarter Results Conference Call. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Mr. Daniel McConnell, President and Chief Executive Officer. Mr. McConnell, please go ahead.

Daniel McConnell

Executives
#2

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, and welcome to The North West Company's Fourth Quarter Conference Call. Joining me here today are John King, our Chief Financial Officer; and Alexis Cloutier, our VP of Legal and Corporate Secretary. Alexis will please read the disclosure.

Alexis Cloutier

Executives
#3

Thank you, Dan. Before we begin today, I remind you that certain information presented may constitute forward-looking statements. Such statements reflect North West's current expectations, estimates, projections and assumptions. These forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and are subject to certain risks, which could cause actual performance and financial results in the future to vary materially from those contemplated in the forward-looking statements. Any forward-looking statements are current only as of the date they are made, and the company disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future results or otherwise, other than what's required by law. For additional information on these risks, please see North West's annual information form and its MD&A under the heading Risk Factors.

Daniel McConnell

Executives
#4

All right. Thank you, Alexis. I will start with an overview of our results for the quarter and then comment on our outlook and the Next 100 program before opening the call for some questions. Overall, the quarter was challenging, particularly when compared to the strong results we delivered in Q4 last year. Headwinds in our Canadian Operations negatively affected our overall results, which were particularly offset by a solid performance in our International Operations. Consolidated sales for the quarter were up slightly year-over-year, following a 4.9% increase in Q4 of 2024. Sales and earnings in Canada were negatively impacted by reduced money in market, including the elimination of the Inuit Child First Initiative food voucher program and lower Water Settlement payments, which contributed to a very strong result in Q4 of last year. In contrast, International Operations delivered strong results with sales up 5.4% and EBIT up 9%, supported by a solid tourist season in the Caribbean and market share gains in certain stores through Alaska. The net impact of these factors resulted in a 7.7% decrease in net earnings this year compared to an exceptionally strong 18.9% increase in net earnings in Q4 of last year. All right. Let's unpack this starting with some sales. Consolidated same-store sales increased by 0.5% this quarter compared to 5.4% increase last year. This is primarily reflecting headwinds in Canadian Operations and the challenge of matching strong sales comps from Q4 of last year. Canadian same-store sales were down 2.8% compared to a strong 6.7% increase in Q4 of last year. And this is all due to the lower money in market with the elimination of the Inuit Child First Initiative food voucher program and the reduced funding for Jordan's Principle programs compared to last year. The expected decrease in Drinking Water Settlement payments compared to the fourth quarter of last year was also a factor, but to a lesser degree. Both food and general merchandise same-store sales were down compared to very strong sales in the fourth quarter of last year. And again, that's due to the lower money -- the less money in market, and also a shift in consumer spending from general merchandise over to food. These factors were partially offset again by increased consumer demand for First Nations Child in Care Settlement payments. Turning now to International Operations. International sales increased 5.4% for the quarter, with same-store sales increased 5.2% in food and 9.5% in general merchandise, which is on top of a solid same-store sales gains in the fourth quarter of last year. The tourist season in the Caribbean was positive compared to last year, and we were pleased with the overall results in the region. In Alaska, we opened a new store in Utqiagvik at the end of October, which contributed to market share gains. These factors more than offset continuing softer economic conditions in some South Pacific markets. With those key drivers of sales in the quarter, I'll briefly comment on consolidated gross profit and our expenses. Gross profit decreased 2% for the quarter and the gross profit rate decreased 74 basis points. These results are comparing against a solid Q4 last year, gross profit increased 9.4% and was up 141 basis points as a rate to sales. The decrease in gross profit rate in the quarter is primarily due to changes in sales mix, including changes in aircraft utilization and higher aircraft maintenance costs over North Star Air. Additionally, an increase in markdowns and shrink in both Canadian and International Operations were also factors. The increased shrink was particularly due to weather and other delays which impacted timely delivery of merchandise to stores in Canada and Alaska and the impact of lower sales in certain stores in the South Pacific resulted in higher shrink and markdowns. On the upside, we continue to see the positive impact of our Next 100 work, including refinements of our merchandise assortments and our procurement. Expenses decreased 1.1% for the quarter and were down 30 basis points as a rate to sales, largely due to lower annual incentive costs, particularly offset by higher depreciation and share-based compensation costs. In the quarter, we also incurred $1.3 million of onetime expenses related to executing the Next 100 program compared to $1 million in the prior year. These onetime expenses were more than offset by the benefits from our Next 100 initiatives, including store labor productivity gains, which are driving lower store staff costs as a percentage of sales other cost savings initiatives and the positive impacts on gross profit I just mentioned. Excluding the share-based compensation cost and onetime costs, the net impact of all these factors resulted in a 1.3% increase in adjusted EBITDA in the quarter. In summary, the good results in our International Operations this quarter were more than offset by the sales headwinds in Canada, which resulted in a decrease in net earnings compared to very strong net earnings gain in Q4 of last year. All right. Now I'll briefly talk about our outlook and provide a few comments on the Next 100 program. First, I want to comment on the money in market outlook for 2026. The elimination of the ICFI food voucher program and a reduction in Jordan's funding -- in funding sorry, for the Jordan's Principle programs are expected to continue to impact Canadian sales in Q1. We expect these impacts in the first quarter to be partially offset from an increase in consumer demand from First Nations Child in Care Settlement payments, which have started to increase modestly compared to the fourth quarter. Although it is still early, based on the settlement payments that have been issued in the communities we serve, our sales capture rate is meeting our expectations. Additionally, we expect the distribution of Child in Care Settlement payments to ramp up in 2026 and extend for a number of years based on the requirement for individuals in the removed child class to reach the majority age before payments are issued, combined with the anticipated opening of the application process and distribution of settlement payments for the other 8 classes. We also continue to monitor macroeconomic conditions, including the ongoing war in Iran and the impacts of higher oil prices, which will affect fuel-related freight and utility costs and have downstream implications on inflation. We are starting to see some fuel surcharges impact freight costs, and we anticipate these pressures will continue in the near term. However, the duration of the magnitude of these fuel cost pressures still remains uncertain. But I do want to stress that keeping in mind that the impacts of these fuel increases is a compound factor in the north as it compared to in Southern retail. But as part -- regarding the Next 100 program, we remain focused on execution and driving cost efficiencies. The refinement of our merchandise assortments and procurement strategies with a focus on expanding our private label offering is ongoing. Throughout 2025, we ramped up the rollout of new assortments and expanded private label offerings in both our Canadian and International Operations. Private label penetration trends remain positive and have sustained as the rollout has progressed. Additionally, the implementation of store-based inventory forecasting and replenishment technology and a new warehouse management system is also underway. These initiatives are expected to improve on-shelf availability, streamline ordering processes for store warehouse teams and reduce inventory shrink and markdowns. The Next 100 operational excellence focus has helped mitigate some of the external headwinds that impacted our 2025 results, and the foundation we are building is expected to continue to deliver value to our customers, shareholders and our employees moving forward. With that, I will now open the call for any questions.

Operator

Operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] And our first question will be coming from the line of Ty Collin of CIBC.

Ty Collin

Analysts
#6

Maybe just for starters, wondering if you could just provide maybe a little bit more color on how you're seeing the settlement payments playing out in your markets? What sort of impact that's had in Q1 so far? And how are you seeing your customers who've received those payments shop within your stores?

Daniel McConnell

Executives
#7

Sure, Ty. Yes, definitely. So we identified that -- we saw a slight increase in Q4. And I say slight, it was modest. And I'd say we're on that same trajectory onward into Q1. So the good news is, from our look, it's still a trickle. It's not coming in at the rate that we anticipate it to come in later on in the year. From the perspective of our capture, we are capturing the sales that we anticipated, as far as our capture rate, we put a lot of planning into this to make sure that we're ready in stock at the time when the money hits. And the money that we know that is coming to market, it's hit our expectations as far as our sales capture rate on those particular stores. But again, I would even take it a step further, Ty, and say, probably only half the stores that we anticipate have even seen a check. So that's a little bit more insight for you. So out of the -- probably, what is it, 63 stores that we anticipate, only half of those have received checks at this point. And it's not been a lot of checks. So does that -- that probably provides you -- I think that should provide you some more context.

Ty Collin

Analysts
#8

Yes. Yes. That's really helpful color. I appreciate that, Dan. And I guess on a related note, I noticed that your inventory levels look basically flat on a year-over-year basis, closing out Q4. I know previously, you've talked about building some inventory ahead of some of this money coming into your markets. Certainly sounds like you're anticipating that to ramp up throughout the year. So just wondering if you could comment on your inventory position at year-end and what your expectations are as we move through 2026?

Daniel McConnell

Executives
#9

No, you wrote the script. That's right. We're ready for business, and we have the inventory that we feel is the right inventory to capture the amount of sales when the money hits. So it's same program. And yes, we're comfortable with both the level of inventory that we're carrying right now and the relationships and the, call it, the network that we've got engaged when we need to call on them. So yes, we're in a good position.

Ty Collin

Analysts
#10

Okay. Great. And if I could just sneak one more in. You mentioned some of the impacts of the Iran war and that you're starting to see some higher freight costs. I'm wondering if you could just discuss any sort of ways that you might be able to mitigate those costs, what you expect the impact might be if this continues? And maybe you could touch on whether you're seeing any impacts to consumer demand as well at this point?

Daniel McConnell

Executives
#11

It's pretty early. We actually -- we held our -- we didn't pass on that before Easter, in fairness, to our customers. So we haven't seen the reduction in demand at the store levels as of yet. As you appreciate, yes, our carriers have come forward with some freight increases. We're obviously going to take a balanced approach as we have in the past, but we do have to pass on those costs. It's just a matter of trying to be as strategic as possible to make sure that we optimize value for both our customers and our shareholders. But there's no avoiding it. These are costs that are going to have to be passed on to our customers. And yes, so that's unfortunate, but that's -- and obviously, we're not going to do it in full, but we're going to do it strategically and in order to optimize the situation on both sides.

Operator

Operator
#12

And our next question will be coming from the line of Michael Van Aelst of TD Securities.

Evan Frantzeskos

Analysts
#13

It's Evan in for Mike. So I guess just to start off, getting back to the settlement payments. So for the markets that you've seen, the checks come in, how are you seeing those being spent? Are people spending on big ticket items? Or are they trading up in food? Or any color you can give around that?

Daniel McConnell

Executives
#14

Yes, definitely. I mean there's -- they're getting both, they're sizable checks. So you can appreciate that we're definitely seeing the uptick in motorized and some of the big ticket items, but there also is some trickle over into the food for sure.

Evan Frantzeskos

Analysts
#15

Okay. Great. And then secondly, with respect to your Next 100 initiatives, where are you relative to getting all the benefits? Like are you halfway? And how has that changed versus last quarter?

Daniel McConnell

Executives
#16

Yes, I'd say we're continuing to progress. I think about the number, I'd say we're 50% to 60% of our weight into it and through it, but there's some -- I mean, it's not exactly linear because we do have some of the more difficult tasks, our supply chain optimization, which we're undergoing right now. We've worked through, and we've been doing a lot of testing on our forecast and replenishment this past year. And it's not fully mature in the fact that we definitely had some headwinds and some -- whenever you start off on a project like this, you jump in and you learn a lot as you go. So there's been some tweaking, but we're really optimistic and positive about what this is going to deliver for us in the future. But I would say, to answer your question, we're about 50% or 60% of the way through the initiative. But then ongoing, I mean, we're just starting a warehouse management system implementation, and we're going over into Alaska to work -- to try and replicate our forecast replenishment that we've created here in Canada to optimize some of that work for our Alaska division.

Evan Frantzeskos

Analysts
#17

Okay. And then just finally on the airline. So you noted changes in aircraft utilization and higher maintenance costs. Could you elaborate a little bit on those?

Daniel McConnell

Executives
#18

Not much. I mean it was a tougher quarter for North Star Air, as I mentioned, and it did have a negative impact on our margins. We see a lot of it is -- yes, there was maintenance overall in the year was -- actually, it was fine. But for the quarter, I guess we thought we were outsmarting the maintenance vary, but they caught us in the fourth quarter. And we had higher maintenance than we were -- the trajectory throughout the year. And also, there were some aircraft utilization. There was some bad weather, severe weather actually, some of the markets saw more snow than they had in the accumulation of the 3 years prior. So it was one of those things that was -- yes, it was a tough one for -- a tough quarter for North Star Air. And the reasons for it were those reasons that I mentioned.

Operator

Operator
#19

And our next question will be coming from the line of Stephen MacLeod of BMO Capital Markets.

Stephen MacLeod

Analysts
#20

I just wanted to follow up on a couple of things. So one, just with respect to the 63 stores that you called out having exposure to the spending coming through in 2026. I seem to recall it was 50 when we spoke last or maybe it was more of a ballpark number. But I'm just curious, have you been able to get more insight into where these payments are going? Is that how you've been able to refine the store count? Just trying to get a sense of how that's evolved.

Daniel McConnell

Executives
#21

50 might have been a ballpark. I think 63 is more precision for you. So yes. And do we have more? No, we don't have any more indication as to where they're going. We know, again, where we've received them and where we're anticipating that they will be. But I'd say a pretty good degree of certainty.

Stephen MacLeod

Analysts
#22

Yes. Okay. No, that's great. And then just on the Next 100 initiatives, just to follow up. If you're 50% to 60% of it -- 50% to 60% through it now, do you still expect to be sort of 75% by the end of 2026 and then full run rate 2027? Or has that trajectory changed at all?

Daniel McConnell

Executives
#23

Yes. No, I'd say 2027 for sure. As far as the 75% at the end of '26, I mean, it's a logical progression, but I have to check back on that. If I was going to give you any kind of direction there. I'd say '27, fully mature, yes. But for the duration of '26, I can't verify that at this point, but it's going to be 75%.

Stephen MacLeod

Analysts
#24

Yes. No. That's fair. That's fair. And then maybe just finally, on the International business, obviously, very strong same-store sales growth in the quarter. You cited the Caribbean tourism markets as well as some gains in Alaska from the new store. Have you seen any slowdown in activity in some of the tourism-dependent markets in maybe more recent periods just with the geopolitical issues that we've seen in Iran and more broadly with the consumer.

Daniel McConnell

Executives
#25

Since Iran -- I mean, Iran is -- fairly soon, people already book their travel. No, I'd say it's been pretty strong. Like I mean, with the shutdown of Cuba, with some of the redirecting of Europeans and Canadians going into the Caribbean as opposed to maybe to the U.S. It's -- the tourism in the Caribbean has been relatively stable. Keep that in mind too, on that international front. I'd like to add that with the high price of oil, that's other than other places and territories within the world, Alaska, that is a benefit. And so it's something that -- yes, that is something just to keep in mind, I guess.

Operator

Operator
#26

And our next question will be coming from the line of Ryland Conrad of RBC Capital Markets.

Ryland Conrad

Analysts
#27

I guess just to start off on the higher oil prices, I guess, when you've had to pass on the higher fuel or jet fuel prices in the past, do you typically see a reduction in out shopping from your northern markets?

Daniel McConnell

Executives
#28

That's the question?

Ryland Conrad

Analysts
#29

Yes.

Daniel McConnell

Executives
#30

If it's a statement, it would probably be accurate because like depending on the winter roads, but yes, jet fuel, I mean, the cost of departing and leaving the communities is going to go up. So I would say, aside from the prolonged winter road, which is what we're experiencing right now, yes, I would say that's an accurate comment.

Ryland Conrad

Analysts
#31

Okay. Perfect. And then just on the Child and Family Services reform that was approved, I think, last week by the Human Rights Tribunal the Ontario carve-out. I'm curious if you have any sense of maybe how much program spending is expected to increase under that new agreement or at the very least, if it's expected to be a tailwind in your stores in that province after Q1?

Daniel McConnell

Executives
#32

We definitely anticipate it's going to be a tailwind for us, but the only unknown is when. You know how like some of this, let's say, just government bureaucracy operates, we're anxiously waiting, and I can tell you we're on guard as far as monitoring when we think we're -- when we -- what those infrastructure projects are going to be and where that money will go. And we'll obviously do our best to make sure that we can service appropriately in those areas. But as of right now, given the short time ago that it was actually released, we don't have any other insights for you at this time, but definitely be monitoring it.

Ryland Conrad

Analysts
#33

Okay. Got it. And then just last for me. On the SNAP benefits in Alaska, I guess from my understanding, there was a bit of a grace period after the new eligibility rules went into effect, if they didn't meet the work requirements. So I'm curious if you could just give maybe an update on what you're seeing in Alaska so far in Q1, and just whether there's been any kind of noticeable impact to same-store sales there as maybe some of these benefits roll off?

Daniel McConnell

Executives
#34

No. I would say at this point, there's been no noticeable impact in Q1.

Operator

Operator
#35

Thank you. That does conclude our Q&A session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Dan for closing remarks. Please go ahead.

Daniel McConnell

Executives
#36

Thank you, operator, and no further remarks from us other than thanks for those who attended, and we look forward to speaking with you in June for our Q1 and AGM.

Operator

Operator
#37

This does conclude today's program. Thank you all for joining, and you may now disconnect.

For developers and AI pipelines

Programmatic access to The North West Company Inc. earnings transcripts and 32,000+ others is available through the EarningsCalls.dev REST API. Plans from $24.99/month — full transcripts, speaker segments, full-text search, and the recently-added /api/v1/transcripts/recent polling endpoint for ETL pipelines.