thyssenkrupp AG (TKA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
February 5, 2021
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Siegfried Russwurm
executiveLadies and gentlemen, shareholders, I hereby open the 22nd ordinary AGM of thyssenkrupp. My name is Siegfried Russwurm. I am the Chairman of the Supervisory Board at thyssenkrupp, and therefore, also the chairperson of this meeting. I'd like to welcome you on behalf of the Supervisory Board and the Board of thyssenkrupp. And I am also happy to be able to welcome a number of shareholders from abroad. It would have been great to welcome you in person at the World Congress in Bochum. But because of corona, we can't do that. And because of the health risks and the ordinances by the government, we decided to have it without any visitors. Nobody coming in here in person. And therefore, we make use of the COVID-19 bylaw, which enables us to have this meeting as a virtual meeting. I'd like to thank you for your understanding, and I also thank you for your interest in spite of this special situation. In order to reduce personal contact to the most necessary and to make sure that we have the right distance -- social distancing, we have limited the number of persons present here at thyssenkrupp in Essen. We have the supervisory and Dr. Günther, I would like to work on Dr. Günther at this point of time. Dr. Günther, in case, I cannot be chairing this meeting, he will be the chair of today's AGM. Dr. Günther, thank you very much for that. Again, we have all the Board members of thyssenkrupp. I'd like to welcome them. Apart from that, we also have the representatives of the voting rights, the proxies of the company and a number of employees of thyssenkrupp AG and their partners to make sure that technically this meeting can be carried out. And the members of the Supervisory Board will participate also virtually, and they can communicate with us at any time. As in the previous year, [ Dr. Irriger ], the gentleman sitting to my right on to your left, who will then be the notary public for this meeting. First of all, a number of points as to how this is going to be carried out. The entire general meeting will be available in the investor portal, which is Internet-based of the thyssenkrupp, and you can access it through the thyssenkrupp website. And as a -- as the chairperson of this meeting, I have given order that this meeting can also be broadcast in the Internet. Therefore, anybody who's interested can watch it. At the same time, it is being translated simultaneously into English. You can choose your language on your Internet page. It is not allowed to tape any part a portion of this meeting. The opening of the AGM, the speeches of the Chairperson of the Board and the Board itself are available on the homepage of thyssenkrupp. The meeting has been -- the communication of the meeting has been carried out properly. It was published in the Gazette on the 22nd of December 2020 and was made available across Europe and in keeping with Section 125 of the shareholders' law. It was also transferred to the depot banks and the associations of shareholders. The voting right by the shareholders or the proxies can be carried out in 2 ways -- or in 2 ways, it could have been carried out by mail vote or by issuing instructions by proxy. And the authorization of the proxy or a third-party had to be done by a form either by regular mail, e-mail or fax or through the investor up until the ending of the vote. Proxy instructions can be issued and also proxy that has been given can be revoked. I will give these instructions at a later point of the meeting again. I'd like to ask you now to do this in proper time because this is live. And even though we're trying very hard, there may be a certain time-lapse. So if the proxies have been authorized or are going to be authorized, I'd like to point out that you can only vote on the basis of these instructions. Anything beyond that cannot be done. So they -- the proxies cannot issue any requests for taking the floor or anything like that. So you have to have this properly filled in, so with all your votes can be duly represented. Shareholders can also put in a complaint against any of the resolutions made by this forum in writing, and you have the option [Foreign Language] on the Internet. If you press that, I can -- you can then put in your complaint. And then you have to switch -- choose the item on the agenda, which you want to revoke. And then notary public will take a look at this, and they will pass it on to me. And I will mention that again prior to ending this meeting, but please do not wait laying in your complaint until the very end because, like I said, it may -- there may be a time-lapse. So I hope it won't be late. So the notary will be supervising our voting, the functionality of it and also to see if all the technical situations are correct. All of these remarks I just made are also -- can also be seen in writing on our portal, and it has been available since we wrote the convocation of this meeting, and it has been sent to you. Shareholders, ladies and gentlemen, before Mrs. Merz is going to give her report, I would like to give you an initial assessment of the situation. The circumstances surrounding today's annual meeting underscores the fact that the coronavirus pandemic has this world in its grip. The global measures to contain the spread of the virus are necessary and correct, but they entail tough restrictions, and hence, considerable burdens for industry. Our company, thyssenkrupp, is also feeling the effects of pandemic. During the first lockdown in the spring of 2020, car sales in Germany collapsed by nearly 50%. Demand for auto parts and steel was correspondingly weak. Because of COVID-19, the past fiscal year was, thus, an exceptionally challenging and exhausting one for thyssenkrupp. Nevertheless, we were able to push ahead the transformation of the company. We had already initiated into a powerful group of companies, and that will be detailed by Mrs. Merz in her input. thyssenkrupp is a much stronger company now, and I have to say that we have progressed considerably: a stronger balance sheet, a more focused strategy and resolution of the management issue. The first major milestone relates to the sale of thyssenkrupp Elevator last summer, with which we significantly improved our financial situation. We have regained our ability to act. The Executive Board negotiated watertight agreements at a time when the corona pandemic in Asia was already running its course and sold the Elevator business at a superb price and cosmetic measures as optimizing the cash flow at the end of the fiscal year, that those were cosmetic measures that we stopped. Nevertheless, it is still too early to sound the all-clear and not just because of COVID-19, the economic environment remains challenging. All the more reason to rigorously drive forward the transformation we have already embarked upon. Our work of transition -- our work to transform our business activities, the second major milestone, is following at an ambitious road map. In May, the Executive Board decided on a wide-ranging strategy update towards a clearly structured portfolio. The Supervisory Board approved it unanimously. It means that thyssenkrupp now has a strong plan for the future plan that demands a lot from everyone involved, but that also gives the company prospects once again. And that, in turn, secures employment over the long term, even though the job losses will be inevitable in some business along the way. Mrs. Merz will be reporting on our progress in implementing this plan. The third major milestone from the Supervisory Board's perspective is that, after a period of upheaval and change, we now have a strong, stable leadership team once again. Martina Merz, who was initially seconded to the Executive Board from the Supervisory Board, has agreed to assume overall responsibility beyond her secondment. With her appointment to Chair of the Executive Board, Ms. Merz now has a mandate to implement the transformation. And with Klaus Keysberg, our CFO, and Oliver Burkhard as Chief Human Resources Officer and Labor Director, we have a strong Executive Board team. We have a team where everyone pulls together with each other in one direction and not against each other. This applies to the Executive Board and the Supervisory Board with this regard to different roles. I am emphasizing this, ladies and gentlemen, because, as you know, there have been times when this was not so. Ladies and gentlemen, from the Supervisory Board's perspective, not everything is positive when reviewing the past fiscal year. The coronavirus pandemic hit thyssenkrupp at the worst possible time. Right in the middle of our transformation, the challenges in our businesses have become even greater because of COVID-19. And this is also reflected in our business figures. Nevertheless, those of us on the Supervisory Board have felt support from many sites in recent months. The pandemic has brought us closer together. At thyssenkrupp, we worked hard together to achieve the best and prevent the worst. On behalf of the Supervisory Board, I would like to thank all of our 1,000 thyssenkrupp employees for this. You have all been through a lot. Not least, the periods of short time working also put a material strain on you, even though the company topped up your monthly pay. Quite a few of you are still on short-time working because of the coronavirus. I would also like to thank the approximately 50,000 employees at thyssenkrupp Elevator. For many of you, journey to that company's independence was not easy from an emotional perspective. And I'd like to thank the Board sincerely. In one of the most difficult situations of our company, your performance was outstanding. A crisis as fundamental as the coronavirus pandemic would have hit thyssenkrupp incomparably harder if we had not received the billions from the sale of the Elevator business at exactly the right time. We would not have come through this crisis as well if we did, if you, Ms. Merz, and your colleagues on the Executive Board had not fought the pandemic impact on our business so resolutely. And we would like to have made so much progress in transforming thyssenkrupp if you had not continued in everything in your power to drive forward the transformation. Again, you deserve our thanks. The transformation into a powerful group of companies is not only the right thing to do, it's also the only way we can make thyssenkrupp sustainably fit for the future again. It's not going to be an easy journey, and we will have no shortcuts. That is why it's all the more important for us to continue systematically pursuing the past and maintaining. And the Executive Board, headed by Mrs. Merz, has our full backing and support. And now I'd like to ask you, Ms. Merz, to take over and give us your input. Ms. Merz will talk longer than she usually does. This is a very long speech where we have already incorporated some of the questions you have asked. Ms. Merz, I'm going to [Audio Gap]
Martina Merz
executiveHello, shareholders and employees. And ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of the Executive Board, I would like to welcome you warmly to this year's AGM. Our meeting was exactly 1 year ago, and it was one of the last in-person annual general meetings in Germany. Since then, the coronavirus pandemic has turned many of our lives upside down. 2020 was unusually challenging for all of us throughout the year, both personally and economically. We were reminded how vulnerable what we call our normal life is. But we have also learned something, namely what we are capable of when we stand side-by-side and all pull together. We progressed with the transformation of our company and achieved many of the limestones (sic) [ milestones] we had set ourselves, despite the difficult conditions that we face. That's worthy of respect and appreciation. And so I would like, right at the start of my speech, to say thank you. Thank you to all of those people who have supported us and helped keep thyssenkrupp on track throughout these exceptionally difficult times. Thanks also are due to our employees. They have coped very well with the double challenge of the coronavirus pandemic and the transformation of our company. This is demonstrated by the many successful steps we have taken together on the path towards transformation. I will go into this in more detail in the first part of my speech. Of course, my thanks also goes out to our customers, suppliers and partners with whom thyssenkrupp has been working together with closely for many years. The joint battle against the effects of the pandemic has brought us all even closer together over the last year, and this was the only way we could safeguard our supply capabilities, our production processes as well as the quality of our products and services. However, the truth is also that the pandemic has hit thyssenkrupp hard. That is why, although we have been working intensely on thyssenkrupp's transformation, we are not yet there where we want to be. The challenges remain significant, but we do know what needs to be done. The work packages are clearly defined, and most of them are already in work. And I will illustrate our plans for the current fiscal year in the second part, of my speech. In the third part, I will then look further ahead, outlining where we see the group of companies moving towards in the future. Ladies and gentlemen, let's kick off with a review. At the AGM exactly 12 months ago, we identified 3 clear priorities: completing the Elevator transaction, transforming the company and also improving our performance. On all 3 issues, we have delivered despite the significant headwinds created by the pandemic. The Elevator transaction was completed very successfully in the summer by using all of our options and got a good sale price of EUR 17.2 billion, an exceptionally good sale price, I think. The proceeds from the transaction enabled us to strengthen our balance sheet, and this has given us financial headroom to give us -- to enable us to maneuver on our other businesses and catch up on the best in industry. In May, we decided to initiate the organizational and structural transformation of the thyssenkrupp into a group of companies comprising independent and efficient businesses with a focused HQ. At the same time, we divided our portfolio into 3 distinct categories. The key matter here was the constellation and ownership structure, which would best give us our businesses the best prospects for the future and also in terms of group -- in terms if growth. I'll return to the portfolio strategy later. Improving our performance is and remains our most pressing task, and we have worked hard on that in the past fiscal year. We have initiated painful, but necessary restructuring measures, in particular in System Engineering, Springs & Stabilizers, cement technologies, aerospace and steel. In effect, we are now in the middle of the largest restructuring program in thyssenkrupp's history. Ladies and gentlemen, a year ago, I told you quite frankly that it would take 2 to 3 years for thyssenkrupp's transformation to be reflected in the figures, and that in the short term, restructuring expenses will actually have a negative impact on earnings. The pandemic in the first year of our transformation resulted in very substantial additional impacts. During the first phase of the pandemic, key sales markets such as the automotive sector collapsed. Correspondingly, demand for auto parts and steel was weak. And hence, the forecast I gave back then was true than anyone could have imagined. The first year of our transformation was exceptionally challenging for thyssenkrupp and had a very severe impact. This is also reflected in our figures for the past fiscal year. Order intake and sales were substantially down on the prior year. Free cash flow before M&A was down by EUR 5.5 billion. Due to the pandemic, we had to record impairment losses on our businesses. At the operating level, we closed the fiscal year with an adjusted EBIT of minus EUR 1.6 billion. We reported an unappropriated loss for the thyssenkrupp AG parent company in the financial statements. For this reason, we were unable to pay a dividend in the past fiscal year. We know this is not easy for you. But in the light of the operational challenges, we, unfortunately, have absolutely no room for maneuver on that. Yet, we were able to significantly strengthen our balance sheet, which is key to achieving positive performance in the future. Our equity position improved significantly to EUR 10.2 billion. We have no longer a net financial debt, but instead, net financial assets of EUR 5.1 billion. Cash and cash equivalents and committed credit lines totaled EUR 13.2 billion as of September 30 reporting date. Of course, these figures are largely attributable to the onetime effects of the successful Elevator sale. They do not yet reflect the operating performance of the businesses. However, we are pressing ahead with our restructuring measures and our work on transforming the organization into a group of companies. And we have also discontinued with the year-end measures for managing our working capital despite its significant impact on our free cash flow. These are all examples the many steps, rapid steps we are taking to make thyssenkrupp more transparent, more resilient and also stronger in the future. We are convinced that we are on the right track, and that our planned measures are taking effect and that things are looking up for our company and our employees. Ladies and gentlemen, we started the new fiscal year with a tailwind. In many areas, we are seeing the first signs of an economic recovery despite the renewed lock down. By scaling back our year-end measures, we have also avoided the usual dip in free cash flow at the start of the year. In the first quarter, we have been benefiting from the positive performance of the economy. At the same time, our structural changes are beginning to bear fruit, confirming that we are doing the right thing. We will be publishing the detailed figures for Q1 next week. Ladies and gentlemen, we have made good progress overall, but we still have a long way to go. Mr. Russwurm just described it quite aptly. There are no shortcuts along this path, just hard painstaking work for all of us. The Executive Board has clearly formulated our goals. We aim and must return to positive free cash flow before M&A as quickly as possible. We are seeking to safeguard the company's long-term sustainability, and we want our business to generate returns on a level with those of our best competitors. We have a clear plan to achieve this and are working through that plan systematically. This plan has 4 phases. The first step, fight, was primarily concerned with overcoming the immediate effects of the corona pandemic. In Phase 2, focus. We will concentrate our portfolio on the businesses that promise the greatest potential for the future. This grouping will also create more transparency for those outside the company and especially for the capital market. And the third step, improve. We will level up these businesses to the level of the best competitors. And finally, in the fourth phase, scale. We aim to restore our businesses to profitable growth and develop in areas outside of our existing portfolio. I would now like to explain those phases in more detail and provide you with an overview of where we are. Just to keep things clear, all of our businesses are active in all phases, but with varying intensity. For example, we are highlighting the activities of individual businesses in a certain phase. In the first phase, fight, which mainly comprise of acute measures taken during the coronavirus pandemic. We acted rapidly and consistently. We were quick to establish a coronavirus task force and analyze the situation in daily video conferences. Our principle here was to protect people and businesses. However, our priority has always been our employees. For example, within just a few days, we developed comprehensive hygiene concepts and rolled them out at our sites. We monitored the global course of the pandemic closely and implemented appropriate measures at all of our sites in Germany and abroad. We created the opportunity for thousands of employees worldwide to work from home. On the other hand, we also faced up to the economic effects of the pandemic, where are orders being lost. What is the best way to safeguard our liquidity? How can we organize production in those cases where we can't simply shut a plant there? At one stage, we had to put more than 30,000 employees into short-time working into furlough. Today, this measure still affects 6,800 employees worldwide. These were and remain very difficult decisions for all of us and create an additional burden for all of us. In parallel to fight, we already launched the second phase of our transformation process at the start of 2020 focus. The goal here was to restructure our portfolio. We have fundamentally mapped out the direction of our businesses, always based on the following questions: What is the best solution in each case? What is the best ownership structure to safeguard the future of the businesses and their employees? And we have come up with 3 pillars. The first pillar is Materials Services, Industrial Components and our automotive business. In these segments, we already hold strong market positions, and we will continue to develop these businesses above all on our own in the future. The businesses in the second pillar, we are also looking into opportunities for consolidation and partnerships alongside organic growth. As you know, this also relates to our marine and steel businesses. In the third pillar, the businesses have been combined into a new segment called Multi Tracks. This will be our platform for the group's investment management. Going forward. This is where we have pooled our minority stake in our former Elevator business and the group companies for which we are seeking alternative ownership structures in the short to medium term. This could be, for example, a complete or partial divestment or continuing the business together with one or more external partners. The companies in the Multi Tracks segment cover a very broad range of businesses from plant engineering through the production and distribution of stainless steel to certain parts of the automotive business. In addition to these interests in what are more traditional industrial companies, the portfolio also includes a joint venture in hydrogen, a growth market in which we see a great potential. We have initiated structured M&A processes for all businesses for which we are examining partnerships, consolidation options or divestments. As with the case for Elevator, the goal here is to develop various competing options. Ladies and gentlemen, the steel sector is of particular importance to thyssenkrupp, and the challenges there are enormous especially in the light of the massive structural overcapacities in Europe. The collapse in demand caused by the pandemic has greatly worsened the situation, and that affects all steel producers in Europe. Nevertheless, steel has good prospects in the future as does our steel business because steel is a high-tech material of increasing importance. We are not alone in our belief that our site network and that of our partners here in Germany's Ruhr region is the best in Europe, and we are aware of our corporate responsibility towards our employees in the steel sector as well as to the region in which we live and work. That is why it remains a primary goal to make steel fit for the future. The Steel Strategy 20-30 adopted last year is an important basis for achieving this. We continue to work on further reducing costs and at the same time, investing in modernizing our facilities. We are also pressing ahead with the dual-track processes as initiated. Our ultimate goal is to ensure the future viability of steel and by doing -- so doing safeguard our employees' prospects. In our view, that is more important than the question of ownership. And that is why in summer, following positive experience with the decision-making processes at Elevator, we began exploring options for steel business. The goal was to carefully examine all conceivable options with a view to safeguarding the future of the business. In autumn, we announced that we would make a decision in March 2021, and that remains our intention. Liberty Steel sent us an updated offer last week, which we are currently examining very carefully. This offer is, as agreed, not yet binding and contains a number of complex aspects that still require further clarification. We are currently in discussions with Liberty Steel on this. At the same time, as we have emphasized from the start, we do not intend to make ourselves dependent on any third party and are working hard on an alternative solution through our own efforts. There are 2 possible variants here: Continuing the steel business as part of the group or a spin-off is. We realize that both of these variants would be challenging, but they could offer an attractive solution for the business. However, a number of conditions would need to be in place first, and we are currently in the process of examining those very carefully. What is important for me is that the future viability of steel is the main criterion for a good decision. In the case of Multi Tracks, we have initiated a structured M&A process for most of the businesses. The most advance of these processes concerns plant technology. After contacting due diligence, several companies have submitted offers for the Mining and Cement business units. We have examined these offers in detail. It was not only important to us that the offers adequately reflect the value of the businesses, but we also weighed up all aspects to ensure that any potential new owner could offer better development prospects than could thyssenkrupp. On that basis, we rated one of the offers for Mining Technologies as promising because it provides attractive development prospects for the business unit. We have, therefore, decided to enter into concrete negotiations with this interested party to discuss the details of a possible divestment. In an announcement made by FLSmidth on January 15 that it confirmed that it is in discussions with us to purchase our mining business. It is not yet possible to predict if these negotiations will be successfully concluded or if at all. The offers received for Cement Technologies have not yet been convincing. In light of this, we decided to suspend that process for this business unit until further notice and to continue developing the cement business as part of the thyssenkrupp Group. We will go on seeking a divestment or partnership, nonetheless. We -- with its clear strategic focus on the 3 growth areas of green technologies, digital transformation and services, Cement technologies is on the right course. At the end of last year, we halted the initiated M&A process for chemical plant construction for the moment. For this, there is increasing momentum in the field of hydrogen and water electrolysis. We are currently investigating growth options and possible business models here. And I'll come back to that later. At the same time, we are assessing the situation of the other areas of chemical plant engineering to determine whether the best development opportunities are to be found inside or outside the company. In addition to the already publicized M&A process for our plant engineering business, we are in talks with potential buyers and partners for other businesses in the segment. Despite the difficult conditions for M&A activities resulting from the pandemic, we expect to see tangible progress before the end of this fiscal year. We are working in parallel to improve the financial performance of all Multi Tracks businesses. Measures include site closures and significant job cuts. With the targets set by Multi Tracks, the segment is already making a material contribution to improving thyssenkrupp's financial position this fiscal year. Ladies and gentlemen, our look at Multi Tracks confirms something that applies to the group as a whole, that we need to look at each business separately. Some businesses are already doing well with strong market positions and competitive performance. Other businesses are still facing significant challenges, and we are still a long way from our goal of matching the level of our best competitors. That is why the measures that make up the third phase, improve, are handled individually. As you know, we looked into every nook and cranny of our businesses last year. We scrutinized the potential for improvement and explored opportunities for the future. This enabled us to identify value levers for substantially improving performance in each business. These value levers are underpinned by specific action plans to reduce costs, increase efficiency and deliver selective growth impetus. Yet, what I said at the annual press conference on financial results last fall still holds true: The setback due to the COVID-19 pandemic means where -- we'll have to work even harder in many areas. There is no other way to achieve our goals, especially the fastest possible return to positive free cash flow from -- before M&A. Our principle here is action-based planning through to the target. That is why all of our businesses will present additional action packages by March, with the aim of tangibly improving performance before the end of the current as well as in the following fiscal years. This is challenging and requires another tremendous effort on the part of everyone involved. We know the route we have to take. We know it's going to be a rocky road, but we will walk it with great determination expertise and confidence. The task now is to systematically and swiftly implement the measures that we are already ongoing and those additionally planned. The Executive Board and the businesses' management teams are working on this together, taking a realistic view at the situation. Take, for example, our automotive business. Here, improved means above all improving profitability. The investments made in recent years in technical developments and the expansion of our plants are now paying off. So the focus of performance measures at Automotive Technology is clearly on operational improvements in production, procurement and product quality. With our electric power-assisted steering and damping system as well as innovative engine components, we are well prepared for the transformation of the automotive industry toward CO2, electric and automated driving. We're also well placed in our Marine business. Our broad submarine and naval surface vessel portfolio combined with the forward-looking technologies from Atlas Elektronik makes us a system provider, better position to leverage market opportunities than many of our competitors. The resilience of the Marine business was demonstrated during the coronavirus pandemic. There, we were able to even slightly exceed the planned result. At Marine Systems, improved means pursuing 2 courses. On one hand, we are enhancing our performance and strengthening our position as a system provider organically. On the other hand, we are also keeping an eye on the German and European marine industry landscape with a view to possible consolidation. If a partnership opens up economic prospects for us and receives political support, thyssenkrupp will back it. Whichever the case, the company will continue to develop marine systems also as a stand-alone entity as a valuable business with good potential. Regarding steel, I already explained to you the options for the future of this segment. At the same time, we're doing everything we can to improve performance through our own efforts. In this case, improve means rigorously implementing a mix of selective investments in the future and urgently needed restructuring. In the summer, for example, as part of the strategy 20-30, we already released funds for constructing a new walking beam furnace at hot strip mill 2 in Duisburg. This new plant will cost around EUR 60 million. It will enable us to produce premium sheet products with high-quality services, for example, to meet the growing demands of our automotive customers. The construction of our new hot-dip coating line, which is being built at the Dortmund site, is also aimed at the same customer group. Both of these investments will further strengthen our position as a quality and technology leader in this field. At the same time, we are systematically implementing the agreed restructuring measures. In the case of the heavy plate unit, we had agreed a deadline at the end of 2020 with the codetermination body. Despite intensive efforts, we have been unable during this time to find a party interested in acquiring all or parts of the business. As agreed, with the codetermination body, we will now shut down this unit by the end of the fiscal year. The employees affected will receive job offers at other sites in Duisburg, and we will continue to avoid forced redundancies. The steps I have just outlined supported realigning the steel segment toward premium products and profitable product groups. Ladies and gentlemen, in all segments, we are progressing well in enhancing the performance of our businesses. In many cases, this also includes restructuring programs and job reductions. In the past fiscal year alone, we spent a total of almost EUR 600 million on restructuring projects in our businesses. By the end of December, just over 4,000 of the announced 11,000 jobs had already been reduced on the basis of socially acceptable solutions agreed with the local codetermination bodies. The downsizing is very painful for all of us. However, these measures are unavailable to ensure that thyssenkrupp has a successful future. Focus is initially making thyssenkrupp smaller while improve is making us stronger. During the current fiscal year, the company expects the performance measures resulting in a sustained improvement in earnings in the low to mid-3-digit million range. In other words, our efforts are beginning to bear fruit. The fourth phase, we call scale. We aim to empower our businesses to once again take greater advantage of available business opportunities. In the past, we kept our level of capital expenditure also in research and development virtually unchanged, even in difficult years. However, we're usually focused on the here and now. We enhanced existing products and worked on improving quality. We optimized the existing product portfolio. What suffered, though, due to a lack of resources was our ability to access adjacent or even entirely new business areas in fields that are showing dynamic development and will ensure profitable growth in the future. Many of our customers industries are currently undergoing profound change. The coronavirus pandemic has greatly accelerated this change in some areas. Having said that, tomorrow's market shares are being allocated today. Despite our limited resources, we want to take a targeted approach at participating in this process. This is what scale stands for. We can already make great progress, and we're making it at Materials Services. In this segment, too, we are responding to shifting customer needs. While materials trading remains the basis of the business, we are additionally expanding our digitalized supply chain service business. We call this strategy Materials as a Service. So MX, as we refer to this segment internally, will no longer just be the best material seller going forward, but also the best supply chain manager. This is exemplified by our new product, PaceMaker. This is an AI-based software solution that lets us significantly increase our accuracy in forecasting call-offs within the supply chain, thus saving our customers' time and material. With this new strategy, MX intends to make greater use of existing market access, customer relationships and data in order to generate additional business. Where opportunities arise, especially in high-margin and thus attractive markets, we're not ruling out growth through acquisitions. Last, but not least, Materials Services also makes an important contribution to conserving resources. By optimizing the global flow of goods, less CO2 is produced and fewer materials are used inefficiently. Another good example of scale is our Forged Technologies business. Here, we supply almost all leading manufacturers of construction and agricultural machinery, commercial vehicles and passenger cars. The business has accomplished an impressive transformation, maintaining high quality while significantly reducing costs. On this basis, we have been able to gradually expand and realign our portfolio. We also continue to supply components for conventional combustion engines, a field in which we are the world market leader. Especially in the heavy trucks as well as construction agricultural machinery segments, these drives will be needed for a long time to come. And new products such as our steering knuckles are needed irrespective of the drive system. Hence, also in e-mobility, we have already bought these products to market, paving the way today for success for the day after tomorrow. In addition, we see great potential for the Bearings business at thyssenkrupp rothe erde. Here, for example, we have been successfully supplying all the major wind turbine manufacturers for many years. Thanks to the massive expansion of renewable energies, this business likewise has good long-term growth potential. But we do not aim to simply grow with the market. We want more. In order to expand our leading market and technology positions, we are making targeted investments in refining our products, in expanding our capacities as well as in new test stands and new production lines for pitch, yaw and rotor bearings. This will enable us to supply components for the next generations of ever larger wind turbines worldwide and also make our contribution to the energy transition. Wind, solar and hydro power are the new energy sources of the future. The energy carrier of the future will be hydrogen. The global market potential for water electrolysis in 2030 is estimated at sales of between EUR 20 billion and EUR 40 billion. In this field, too, thyssenkrupp is well positioned with its solutions. To date, our alkaline water electrolysis process is the only technology that has already been implemented on a large scale to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen using electricity. The standard modules from our joint ventures, thyssenkrupp Uhde Chlorine Engineers, are the largest electrolyzers in the world. That puts us in a very good starting position in what is a dynamic growth market. This is also evidenced by the engineering contract we recently received from Canada, an 88-megawatt installation for the Hydro-Québec utility company, which will use hydroelectric power to produce green hydrogen. The public sector, too, is taking a position supporting the development of a hydrogen industry. By the year 2030, up to 40 gigawatts of installed capacity are to be funded in the EU alone. We have just received funding decisions from the Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Energy and the Federal Ministry of Education Research for 2 of our ongoing projects. These are very promising indicators. For this reason, we have halted our divestment process for the chemical plant construction business for the time being and are reassessing the potential of our hydrogen electrolysis activities, in particular. We are currently exploring how, based on our leadership in technology, we can best bolster our position in a hydrogen-based ecosystem with component partners at every link in the value chain from plant construction to generation and distribution. Additionally, hydrogen is going to play a key role in steel production in the future. Today's conventional CO2-intensive steel production processes have no long-term prospects as we head towards a climate-neutral society. At the same time, there is a great deal of scope for contributing to the reduction of carbon emissions. If we succeed in using hydrogen to make current steel production at thyssenkrupp climate neutral, we will reduce Germany's total CO2 emissions by 2.5%. The first steps towards a climate neutral steel production have already been taken. Despite the coronavirus pandemic, trials with hydrogen at the Duisburg site made good progress last year, and we are involved in several hydrogen procurement projects to ensure supply to the steelworks. And also, the Carbon2Chem project with the launch of the second phase, attracting further federal funding of EUR 75 million. We have taken an important hurdle. The goal of the climate concept is clear. Looking ahead, we aim to supply customers with steel of the same quality and in the same grades, but produced in a climate-neutral way. The demand from our markets is already there today, and it will continue to grow, not least because our customer industries, especially the automotive industry also wanted to become climate neutral. This will require a change in a technology coupled with significant modification of existing plants, which will cost billions of euros of investment. No steel manufacturer will be able to manage the transformation on its own. More political support is definitely needed, providing an intelligent transformation, an intelligent mix of instruments that make it possible to finance investments, but at the same time, absorb higher operating costs. And there is no need to create incentives for developing an attractive market for green steel. Our in-depth discussions with policymakers on this issue are ongoing. We must not forget that this could create future markets in which Europe, and hence, also Duisburg, can assume a strong leading position in the steel industry hub. Ladies and gentlemen, as you can see, we are working on transforming thyssenkrupp in all areas. And it is no secret when I tell you that the thyssenkrupp of the future will look different from that of the past. thyssenkrupp will become a group of companies with a lean Corporate Headquarters. That is why, as we transform our businesses, we are also working in parallel on management structures tailored to the new significantly more decentralized alignment of the new thyssenkrupp. We already took the first step in fiscal year 2019, 2020, halving the number of employees at headquarters, downsizing the regional organization and significantly reducing costs overall. As of February 1, we initiated further changes. In the future, thyssenkrupp AG will be responsible, in particular, for the overarching value creation model of the group of companies. Corporate Headquarters now focuses more on portfolio management, governance task as well as providing the businesses with the best possible support for achieving their performance targets. Our goal is to change the way we work together to continuously improve along the way as well as to make our organization more agile and adaptable to future challenges. Put simply, we are updating our operating system. To achieve this, we are using the Lean & Agile methodology. This reorganization will not involve any further job reductions. Ladies and gentlemen, with the further reorganization of Corporate Headquarters and the forthcoming decision concerning the steel business, we're now entering the home straight regarding the structural issues in thyssenkrupp's realignment. We have made another major step in transforming the organization, portfolio issues have already been clearly addressed and the group of companies provides us with a systematic management model. In the foreseeable future, we will once again be able to focus on what we do best, working with our customers to find innovative and technologically pioneering solutions to tomorrow's challenges. As an engineer, this prospect makes my heart beat faster. And I know that many of our colleagues in the businesses feel the same way. With our technological know-how and industrial expertise, thyssenkrupp can be instrumental in creating a more livable and, above all, a more sustainable [ world ]. I've just mentioned some examples. Our electrolysis plants produce green hydrogen on a large-scale. Wind turbines all over the world turn, thanks to our bearings. AI-optimized supply chains achieve savings and logistics and materials. And our automotive components are used in e-mobility and automated driving applications. Our pilot projects at Steel Europe show how we can harness innovative concepts to shape the climate-neutral steel production of the future. As a diversified industrial group, we are committed to assuming responsibility for climate protection. We are in an excellent position to contribute to reducing greenhouse gas emissions on a larger scale. And the globally respected organization, CDP, has included thyssenkrupp on its Climate A List for the fifth time in succession, thus, confirming thyssenkrupp's position as a world leader in disclosing climate-relevant data and managing climate change. For years, we have been proving that industry and climate protection are not contradictions. On the contrary, the sustainable transformation of our economic model presents major opportunities for our industrial society and also economic opportunities for us here at thyssenkrupp. Ladies and gentlemen, it is not -- it will not be possible to achieve our goals overnight, not single-handedly and not without a great effort. A complex change process like this takes time. And we are aware that transforming thyssenkrupp is demanding and a great -- is demanding a great deal from everyone involved. I would, therefore, like to say a special thank you to you, our shareholders, for your constructive criticism, your support, your patience and your trust along this path. As we progress along the course of transformation of the company, your support will be more important than ever. In the months ahead, we will have to make some landmark decisions, especially for steel and our Multi Tracks businesses. Despite that, our path ahead is clearly defined. We are transforming thyssenkrupp into a group of companies with competitive businesses and future-proof products. Sustainable profitability and sustainable positive cash flow are the benchmarks by which we want to be measured. Only then, will we be able to offer sustainable jobs and create long-term value for you, our shareholders. And last but not least, we are also pursuing the goal of being able to again reliably pay you, our shareholders, a dividend. Ladies and gentlemen, engineering.tomorrow.together remains motivation and also describes how we, at thyssenkrupp, are working to make your company our thyssenkrupp a great investment again. And only then, we will only be satisfied when you are. Thank you for your attention.
Siegfried Russwurm
executiveMs. Merz, thank you for your comments. And as you can see, we are now cleaning the speaker's position according with our -- in accordance with the hygiene concept, and we will then move on to the more formal part of the report of the Supervisory Board. Ladies and gentlemen, let me now present the report of the Supervisory Board. I will be talking in particular about the personal aspects and the payment system. Let me say a few words about the work of the Supervisory Board. Based on the transformation of thyssenkrupp, the Supervisory Board and the Executive Board have intensified their activities. The number of meetings in 2020 met 10x, which is more than usual. The exchange of information, and we -- and they have met almost every 2 weeks generally with also contributions from external advisers and members of the board. Overall, they met 25x last year. With respect to normal activities on the Supervisory Board, let me -- as prior details, let me refer you to the report in the -- to the details in the annual report. During our meetings last year, we considered the payment system for the Supervisory Board. It was also a focus of our work on the personnel committee. I presented the draft for the system, discuss it with many investors. And during the meeting on the 18th of November 2020, the Supervisory Board also presented a further monument draft, which is part of the resolution #7 in today's agenda. And in addition, you have access to a review -- a summary review of those details on the company's Internet pages. Let me merely here refer to the main new aspects. The financial -- both the annual bonus has been reduced the free cash flow before M&A. It continues to regulate the goals from our operative business to have a positive cash flow. A new aspect, the second criteria is the greater focus on that with -- on the actual outcome. In both of these economic aspects, substantial changes of the goals or the comparatives are not possible. The bonus also includes the individual performance of the Executive Board members based on goals set by the Supervisory Board every year. And that also supports the transformation of thyssenkrupp into a high-performing group of companies. These 3 criteria are parallel and also -- but are also evaluated additively. The long-term incentive aspect has been included -- also includes the aspect of sustainability. The planned period term is now 4 instead of 3 years. And we also include systematically nonfinancial sales, including social and ecological aspects. And for the financial goals, the return on capital employed, ROCE, is -- takes the place of a self-defined aspect. The relative total shareholder return sets -- is an external target based on external aspect, which refers to getting return for our shareholders and more returns than our shareholders. The pension aspect is that the only new members will not have -- will not receive any pension or capital aspects. Instead, they now -- during their active period, they will receive the payment amounting to annually 40% of their salary for which they should use for their own pension provisions. That means thyssenkrupp goes -- enters no long-term risks or no long-term obligations. On top of that, the aspects of share ownership to shareholders, their obligations that they purchase shares and maintain to some group shares during the period of their term. So at least 25% of the net payments from their variable monuments and -- shall be made in the form of investment in thyssenkrupp shares until the equivalent of 1 year's salary is invested. That -- we see that -- we think that this system presents incentives to promote the transformation of thyssenkrupp. The major part of this is -- has to do with performance-related components. These are based and -- based on the achievements and performance and achieving strategic milestones in the transformation of thyssenkrupp. By including sustainability aspects, we are also maintaining our social responsibility and that since the -- that they have to invest their -- part of their moneys in shares in the company gives them an incentive, reflecting the needs of shareholders in the company, the needs and wishes of shareholders. The -- in compliance with the governance, the legal governance aspect, the law states that the AGM shall, on all principal changes of the monuments for board members, shall be presented, but at least every 4 years. And the system presented today for resolution includes all aspects of the new German laws covering these issues. Also, the recommendations of the German Corporate Governance Codex based on the current version from '16 to September 2019 are all fully included. The changes results are also the main reason why we couldn't present you with the adjustments as presented today. Any of you who have been following the AGMs of last -- of recent years, you will remember that the Supervisory Board has really -- this aspect has been dealt with in detail at all AGMs. Based on the resetting of goals within thyssenkrupp, we have also reflected the legal changes. Our goal is to present a system, which is suitable for the years ahead for the compensation system. And we think that the current resolution for agenda point 7 for the resolution on the approval of the compensation will satisfy all of those aspects. Let me also talk about the compensation for the past year. As you saw -- have seen in the annual report, the Supervisory Board unanimously voted to give a special bonus for achievements in the 2019/2020. This represents a formal exception to the previous compensation system, which is specific there for compensating for extraordinary achievements and requirements. We have taken the new system as a basis for this bonus during the individual nonfinancial goals were all fully met, including the Elevator transaction and the transformation of thyssenkrupp. Based on the new compensation system, the bonus would have been to EUR 204,000. Based on that, that is -- it was on that basis that we arrived at the EUR 200,000 special bonus. Therefore, this bonus is compliant with the new system. The Supervisory Board made this unanimously decision and continues to be of the opinion that this is the right action to take. Ladies and gentlemen, the AGM is also -- now discuss the members of the Supervisory Board compensation system every 4 years. The compensation for the Supervisory Board is regulated in the articles and was resolved in 2014. At that time, according to that, they had the right to a fixed component and variable components. The level of the compensation is based on the tasks and the activities in the committees for each member. Based on the opinion of the Executive Board, it is currently -- it reflects the activities taken and is also compliant with the current German Corporate Government regulations. This is -- that is why agenda point 8 is based on -- so we would ask you to confirm the resolution on the approval of the compensation of Supervisory Board members. In March of last year, the Supervisory Board confirmed Ms. Mart Merz confirmed as a CEO of the company. Ms. Merz, at that time, she seconded from the Supervisory to the Executive Board. And she put -- she withdrew from the Supervisory Board at that time, and she was then voted as CEO of the thyssenkrupp AG. And important contributions were also made by the members of the Supervisory Board for the transformation since the works -- those activities have been taken on by other members of the Board. With the closing of the Elevator transaction in July of 2020 as Herberger left the Supervisory Board successor is Mr. Tekin Nasikko. He was Chairman of the workers' representatives committees. And Ms. Ingrid Hengster became member of the Supervisory Board. She withdrew for personal reasons. So the 1st of October 2020, Ms. Verena Volpert was appointed as new member of the Supervisory Board. These -- the official appointment terminates at the end of this AGM. That is why this is part of the -- Ms. Volpert is a -- has a appropriate qualifications, and this is -- and she is -- has been responsible for fiscal matters in various companies, and she was also at the Berts AG. Her knowledge in terms of corporate financial aspects is -- represents a good complement to Supervisory Board. Dr. Lothar Steinebach will be leaving our Supervisory Board at the end of this meeting. Dr. Steinebach will be replaced by Stefan E. Buchner. The foundation, therefore, is making use of its rights for second month. Mr. Buchner was a member of the Daimler Truck AG Executive Board, where he was responsible for the Mercedes-Benz sector and has been in various positions with the Daimler AG. His knowledge will provide excellent technical qualifications for his work on the Supervisory. Dr. Norbert Kluge will be leaving the Supervisory board for personal reasons. Dr. Kluge is also active in the Hans-Böckler-Stiftung. He will be succeeded by -- for Daniela Jansen, and she will be appointed -- officially appointed to Supervisory Board at the end of this meeting. Between 2012 and 2017, she was a member of the North Rhine-Westphalia. The Government or withdrawing members of the Supervisory board are here we thanked on behalf of the Supervisory Board for their efforts for many years for the company. We wish them all the best, both professionally and privately in the future. Ladies, the -- in point agenda 5, the -- on the amendment of Articles of Association. This would mean, in the case of the thyssenkrupp, the Supervisory would recommend this amendment. This -- the staggered Board means that the terms of individuals -- or the individual members of the Board could be adjusted, reflecting situations. This will also help bring in new qualifications and help make the Board more effective. And the term of Ms. -- Dr. Volpert has been extended to the end of AGM 2024. And this is why resolution 5 -- resolution in agenda point 5 is to delete sentence 3 of the Articles of Association. And that is that the election of the successor of a -- to a member retiring for the end of his term of what is shall be for the remaining term of office of the retired member. Including this amendment for Dr. Volpert will be confirmed until the end of 2023. With -- but based on the change to the Articles of Association, the term of Dr. Volpert can be amended and extended to the end of the AGM in 2024. Ladies and gentlemen, that brings me to the end of my report for the Supervisory Board, which included many formal aspects. As you noticed, let me also say I'd like to thank members of the shareholders of the company who have supported the company in these difficult times. Thank you very much.
Unknown Executive
executiveLadies and gentlemen, I will now get to the agenda of our annual meeting. We are calling all items on the agenda. There are 8 items. Number one, and that will be presenting the approved annual accounts of thyssenkrupp AG and the approved group accounts for September 2020. The summary of the situation report of thyssenkrupp AG for the group of the business year 2019/2020, the report of the Supervisory Board as well as the explanations by the Board Chairman according to Section 289 paragraph (1) 315a HGB. Then we have item #2, item #3, which includes that items #4 is the resolution of choosing the right annual accounts. Item #5, the resolution of the change. Item #6, the approving of the new remuneration system for the members of the Board; and 8 would be the approval of the remuneration of the Board members. You will see all of these items in your convocation that you have received correctly and in a timely fashion. All of this in keeping with Section 289a and Section 315a of the HGB as well as all other documents have been published on our website and are available as we speak. In the meantime, I now have a list of all the participants in which we have a listing of all the people who are here with the right to vote, 443 -- oops, there, we got millions. You see it on the screen, which means it's 20 -- 71.22% of the share capital. And then we have further mail-in votes, 1.13% of the share value. So 72.35% of the value is being represented by votes and proxies. Ladies and gentlemen, to carry out this meeting as a virtual meeting in order to secure and ensure the safety and health of all our members has been approved, but we understand, of course, a virtual meeting also entails changes for everybody involved. So different from before, we will not have a general Q&A and a debate, but you had the chance to send in your questions through the investor portals. Thank you very much for making use of that opportunity. And now we move to the part where we answer your questions. This will be provided by the members of the Board. Questions regarding the Supervisory Board will be answered by me. In total, we had 139 questions by 31 shareholders. Last time, for example, we had 21 shareholders who took the floor 24 times, and we had 140 questions. The current situation because of COVID-19, law stipulates that the questions can be answered by the Board, and not all questions need to be answered. However, we will provide an answer for all the questions that have been asked in due time. It is very important for us also for the success of this virtual meeting to, in fact, answer all the questions that you have asked. And the speeches made by Ms. Merz and myself have already been published on the Internet, so that you were able to study them in advance. Since the questions needed to be provided before this meeting, we were able to study them and provide proper answers. To give you a better and clearer way of answering the questions, we do them thematically. We will not mention the name of the person who asked the question, unless that person wanted to be named. After we are through with answering the questions, we will move to the part where we start the voting. I would like to point out that your voting right can be exercised through the investor portal and can be changed up until the point where I close the voting. And I will announce that well in advance. But please, if you can -- if you want to make any changes, make them now and do not wait until the very last moment. And now I'd like to ask the Board to start with the first group of questions, the questions relating to performance.
Claus Ehrenbeck
executiveYes. Thank you very much. Maybe I can start. Mr. [ Folz ], you asked when we can have a positive EBIT. Well, Mr. [ Tumler ], representative of the DSW. You asked a similar question. When do we have black numbers again, black figures? When will we be profitable? What gives you the idea that you will soon become cash positive?
Klaus Keysberg
executiveWell, we already communicated our expectations, and I referred to them. But as usual, when we publish the Q1 figures, we will give you an outlook for the future. Because we don't know the effects of the corona pandemic on the situation, we cannot give you complete figures. But it is obvious, our main aim is to have a positive cash flow in a sustainable fashion. We're working on that with our performance measures. We are convinced that in the medium term, we will be at benchmark level and above and beyond. We have made clear decisions, and we will divest those businesses, which we cannot develop ourselves anymore. We understood what the problems are, and we are working consistently on the best solutions so we have a very consistent approach.
Claus Ehrenbeck
executiveAnd there's a similar question to that regard. What EBIT does thyssenkrupp have to reach in order to generate a positive cash flow? A rating agency says that 6% would be necessary. What are your assumptions for sales?
Klaus Keysberg
executiveWell, the assumptions that rating agencies use are known to us. So I can't give you a direct answer. But to have a positive free cash flow, we would have to have an EBIT of about EUR 500 million. This is taxes, pension, payments and taxes. But that assumes that we have no change in capital. If we have depreciation of about EUR 1 billion and about EUR 32 billion sales, that would be a 5% EBIT margin. If it is small, of course, then the EBIT rate would be a little bit lower.
Claus Ehrenbeck
executiveAnd furthermore, I'd like to speak about market capitalizing. Considering our situation, what is your view on market capitalization?
Klaus Keysberg
executiveWell, we want to improve the value for all of us, for the company, for our employees, for our shareholders. So market capitalization, of course, is very, very important for us. The improvement that we expected for '21 is important, but is not enough. So to have trust in the capital market and confidence, we must deliver. We must show that we have been successful, and we are convinced that we have more to offer than what is reflected by our share value at the moment. I think that our opportunities outweigh the difficulties ahead. Okay. Many people ask about the dividend. Many of you asked, if we pay out a dividend for the current business year or when we would start paying a dividend? Well, Mr. [ Tumler ] asked that question, among other people. As Merz already said that, what our view is on that. But we say this. We know it's very painful that for the past year, we don't pay any dividend. It is even more important for us to improve the importance of our business and to be able to pay in a sustainable fashion dividends to our shareholders. For 2021, I cannot tell you now. It's too early for that. But probably, we will give you an announcement on that after we publish our public accounts in November. Our aim is that we want to get back to a continuity in paying out dividends, and that is an important element of our strategy. On the basis of progress in this strategy and the improvements of the company, we want to be able to pay out a good dividend to our shareholders.
Claus Ehrenbeck
executiveAs to the share value, well, even before we left tax, it was not rising. It was, in fact, lower. How do you explain that? It cannot only be because of further external influences. So what can you say about the share price?
Klaus Keysberg
executiveWell, the share price, of course, relies on the perspective of the company, and cash flow plays into that. And the stock price development in 2021, 2020 can be explained by the effects of the pandemic and the view that the investors took. Thyssenkrupp is a free early cycle company, and of course, feels such effects at an early stage. And in the previous years, and that's true too, many of our businesses were not improving. And therefore, we had bad results and a bad balance sheet. And with our new direction that we have now taken in May of last year and have already implemented in parts, we have taken clear portfolio decisions. We've -- this will lead us to structural improvements in the group. And on top of that, on top of these new developments, we have a clear plan for each group to make sure that thyssenkrupp becomes an effective group of companies. And we are convinced that our company can do much more than what is reflected by the stock price.
Claus Ehrenbeck
executiveFurthermore, they asked us about the development in this financial year.
Klaus Keysberg
executiveWell, in '18, '19, we did consolidate portfolios, and we had EUR 34 billion. Because of the 2020 pandemic, the market situation in '19, '20, it went down to EUR 29.8 billion. Currently, we are seeing a positive development. And for 2021, we see an increase in sales, but it will still be below the pre-corona level.
Claus Ehrenbeck
executiveAs to liquidity, do you agree with the rating agency that EUR 800 million to EUR 900 million or EUR 600 million in 2020 were lost?
Klaus Keysberg
executiveWell, like I said, rating agencies have their own models. Therefore, we can't give you detailed reflections on the results. But looking at the geopolitical uncertainties, we look at the current business year in a cautious manner. We assume that this year, we will have a negative free cash flow. But a part of the free cash flow is used to make our businesses more competitive and more profitable.
Claus Ehrenbeck
executiveThen we were asked to comment on WDR television commentary. If there is no new concept, this company may go insolvent before the federal elections?
Klaus Keysberg
executiveWell, the sale of the Elevator division helped us a lot with the free liquidity. These are means that we have available, EUR 13.2 billion. The finances of the group are on a very solid foundation. So that quote from WDR Television is not based on anything. We were not part of that TV program, and there was no view of the company that entered into their opinion.
Claus Ehrenbeck
executiveThank you very much, Mr. Keysberg. This leads us to the second part, corona. Ms. Merz, I would like to ask you to answer these questions.
Martina Merz
executiveWell, in conjunction with corona, we were asked if thyssenkrupp -- the COVID 2021 system changes will let us survive? Well, we said, 2020, of course, was a very challenging year. No doubt about it. And the pandemic has hit us hard as it did to other companies. But at the same time, we have improved in revamping our company. I don't want to repeat my speech now, but many of our -- the milestones that we wanted to attain, we have achieved. So we are not where we wanted to be. The challenges are legion. Yet, we have a clear road map, and we know what to do. The work packages have been defined, and many of them are being implemented as we speak. What is important is that our efforts and our products are being valued by our clients. And talking about competitiveness, we must, of course, reduce our costs. And in every quarter and with every quarterly report and also at the next AGM, we will inform you about our progress.
Claus Ehrenbeck
executiveThank you very much. Mr. [ Schmidt ] from the DBS also had a question regarding corona, and the question was that last year was unusual for thyssenkrupp not only because of corona in the automotive sector and the steel sector situation meant that the company faced many challenges. Which effects did you have on your global supply chains as a result of the pandemic because of changes amongst our suppliers meant that we could deal with most problems.
Unknown Executive
executiveFor example, lack of containers and that meant that some articles had to be bought from local suppliers. There were delays in arriving results, which couldn't be compensated, but that did only affect a small part of our purchases. Commodities, we suffered substantial -- sometimes substantial delays, but we were able to guarantee all of our supply chains overall. Also, I'd like to also say hello to all shareholders.
Claus Ehrenbeck
executiveMr. [ Schmidt ] asked how you are ensuring that your staff are properly protected against corona, except for those home office workers?
Unknown Executive
executiveAnd as you've heard from us that our priority was to protect the business, but above all, our staff. That also applies to all of those persons who can't work in the post -- in home office. As part of our risk analysis,of each of our workstations, we checked all hygiene aspects and introduced appropriate measures depending upon and including, for example, technical actions were taking place, separation, plexiglass walls. All organizational measures were introduced. For example, extending flexible times, delayed shift times, rotating shift models, or we've actually taken also hygienic cleaning of all equipment and surfaces. Suitable equipment was made available, and we also purchased and have used 31 -- 33 million hygienic facemasks. We identified risk groups, and who -- and all persons were allowed to undertake home office working who would not otherwise have been able to do so, and also communications were properly established with all staff. And we have been in contact with all staff members as appropriate during the course of the pandemic so far.
Claus Ehrenbeck
executiveThe third block has to do with questions relating to the Elevator transaction. Mr. Keysberg is going to talk about that.
Klaus Keysberg
executiveWe've received many questions about the use of cash from the Elevator transaction. Many of you have asked how will the liquidity be used for repaying debts or for investment purposes? Let me say that, as we've heard from myself and from Ms. Merz, we have been able to improve our financial situation, both to do with equity capital as well as -- and also with respect to the net financial indebtedness. And so we no longer have a net debt, but a net credit line. In that, we are able -- have been able to introduce appropriate restructuring measures in order to improve our competitiveness. And we intend to continue doing that consequently and with all necessary rapidity. And the modernization of our plants and strengthening strategic growth areas has also already been mentioned. We are improving the competitiveness and future proofness of thyssenkrupp. As far as its overall situation, this -- we need to ensure that we are highly flexible in terms of our natural aspect in the future. We will be paying back all short-term debts on time and punctually. There will be reduced our -- other aspects of our financial situation have been normalized, thanks to the sales. Also as part of the transaction, some of the book profit has been -- you asked whether that was going to be paid out as a special dividend? Because of the overall net debt, we will not be paying any dividends or special dividends to shareholders. We know that shareholders are not pleased about that. And other questions refer to whether we will be financing outstanding financial aspects? And which costs that would entail? And when those payouts are to take place? And let me say the following. In February 2020, at the time of the Elevator transaction, we said that we'd be out-financing some of our financial obligations for pensions. That is -- it was, at that time, an exceptional strategy. But as part of the pandemic strategy, we intend to keep the maximum level of financial flexibility. So we will not -- we have refrained, and we'll delay those -- such actions.
Siegfried Russwurm
executiveThank you, Mr. Keysberg for all that. Let me move onto our fourth block, which has to do with portfolio strategy and about the new compensation system for the Board and the Supervisory Board. And let me pass -- let me answer those in detail myself. A question from DK Investment asked, would you only say there's no contribution between that, which the employees expect and the payments on -- for the Board members. Please give details. It was asked the special bonuses and how they can be justified based on the fact that shareholders will again have received no dividends for the past fiscal year and that many employees are worried about their jobs. How does that fit together? And another question. We -- was that we would have thought it was good that the -- we expect that the Board leads the company into safe still waters. And other comment was made by [ Martin Büchler ] was that why hasn't the silver -- or the Board delayed the special bonus based on the fact until the other business sectors could be sold without loss and/or whether the special bonus could have been made in terms of shares? And when -- who the benefit would have been as the share price improves so the benefits also improve? And the Executive Board, irrespective of the strategic decisions, made, which we asked about the last AGM, they should be praised for concluding the Elevator sale despite the pandemic that -- but as far as the special bonus, that is very much in question, bearing in mind the job loss of many employees. And whether or not the sale of the company's -- with silver -- in terms of the Elevator, whether that was a good approach? We remain -- only know that in many years' time, possibly. And maybe that sees -- compares what are the arguments against the special bonuses, and especially, reflecting the proposed compensation system? Let me give a summary answer to all of these comments and questions. Martina Merz, Oliver Burkhard and Dr. Keysberg have said for the fiscal year 2019 and 2020, they did receive a special bonus. That was a unanimous decision of the Supervisory Board. And that has been criticized in the press. It is absolutely right that the business development of thyssenkrupp was not satisfactory and that the company did not achieve its financial goals. But the achievement of the -- we did achieve other aspects. The second bonus depends on the individual achievements and outcomes of the Board members and -- but the fact that for -- achievement of financial goals is also a multiplier. But if -- but during the past year and in the year before that, any -- this -- the non-achievement of financial goals would result in no -- 0 bonus for those Board members. But reflecting the -- there's also -- the compensation must also reflect the individual efforts and outcomes of the members. Also, in order to reflect the individual performance results, the previous compensation method did include a special means by which thyssenkrupp could provide special bonuses for Executive Board members if it felt that it was justifiable. And it was on this basis that the Supervisory Board, after extensive discussions, unanimously decided to compensate individual efforts and results of Board members with a special bonus and one-off payments. The current -- the new compensation system excludes that option because it is no longer necessary. There was a gap in the old system, and that gap has now been removed in the new compensation system because it was an additive, not a multiplicative system. Because in the new system, non-achievement of financial goals would not automatically result in 0 bonus, especially below the Executive Board level, that is also the case and has been the case in the past. So the future regulations were put in mind with respect to the payment of the special bonuses. And -- but based on the situation -- but on the unusually successful completion of the Elevator transaction and the work of the Executive Board members, based on new system, the Executive Board members would receive payment of EUR 204,000. And that is why we decided on the special payment of EUR 200,000 in accordance with the new resolution regulation. The Supervisory Board came to an unanimous decision and continues to be of the opinion that this was the correct action to take. As far as the bonus -- payment of bonus and if the company is brought into a more -- into a calmer, into calmer waters and/or this reflected delays of payments over longer periods, this payment is a direct reflection of achievement of nonfinancial goals during the current fiscal year. As a part -- and based on the individual articles of the contracts, this does not represent an extraordinary payment. And the oldest system would have -- the previous system didn't allow such payments. The new and the old compensation also includes the aspect of long-term incentive. In the last fiscal year, in January 2020, for Mr. Burkhard, only he was a member -- was 20.2% of the salary or 80% below the target value in 2021 January, and please refer to the annual report. In one year, it was 70 percentage points appropriately. And the new compensation does not allow any such assessments. Why didn't -- why did shareholders benefit from the -- these aspects? The system was based on the resolutions passed at the AGM last year. And because there was no -- the -- paying special bonuses in terms of shares is not allowed according to the regulations. And the -- or the payment -- or the purchase of shares with the bonus, that was also not possible based on the valid regulations. And that nonpayment of the bonus or -- a question referred to -- let me say that in answer to those questions, the regular bonus was not possible because of the targets not reached. The special bonus amounts to 30% of the regular bonus or which -- this would be a 70% loss based for that bonus. But the Executive Board did between May and July in 2020, during which many of the staff employees were furloughed, the Board members did waive such payments. And appropriate rules were applied in the context of the pandemic. We were also asked why -- based on the pathetic work of thyssenkrupp members, why haven't bonuses and payments being slashed? Obviously, the person who made that question considers -- assesses the work of the Executive Board members differently to the Supervisory Board. The compensation system, as presented under agenda point 7, is based on short-term incentives and the long-term incentive aspect. The payment from the SDI was waived completely for the term year, the report year. And there's only 30% of the amount specified. After the payment of the special bonus, the -- it represents a reduction of 3 -- by 3 quarters of the variable bonus, and a major portion of the payment is based on the specified goals. This shows that there were gaps in the old compensations. And these gaps have been addressed in the new compensations as in accordance with agenda point 7. And for example, the law with -- those provide for various other options for the payment of bonuses, but these do not apply. The level of Supervisory Board compensation is specified in the articles of the thyssenkrupp, the fixed salaries and additional amounts and also for meeting -- attendance of meetings, et cetera. In 2020, there was an independent advisory committee, reviewed payments, and that pointed out that the current level, which was last raised in 2014 was at the lower level of that normal within the market for quoted companies in Germany. But based on the economic situation in -- with a much work, we decided to refrain from specifying or proposing an adoption. But if you look at -- refer to the agenda point 8, you will see that proposal -- that provides a proposal for the compensation of Supervisory Board members as has already been referred to on several occasions. But based on the successful Elevator transaction and achievements made in 2020 -- but I can accept comments about that, but it's not because of -- the future of the company is -- does not -- one single decision made by the Supervisory Board or incorrect decision, or however, one just wants to describe it, does not justify slashing payments for Supervisory Board members. What were the overall levels of compensation for our Board members? And what were they -- would they have been if the new compensation system had already been in -- had already been valid? The 2019, 2020 payments were -- are available to -- for your reference, are on the -- in the annual report. They are there in all detail. Let me apologize for all the complexity of these answers. It's not possible to answer those questions in any other way. Based on the corporate governance's code of 2019, '20, based on those figures, it was EUR 5.7 million for the entire Board. Based on the HD on the German code and based on the German corporate governance's code, the HBI places the emphasis on long-term incentives, whereas the -- another aspect refers to the details of the previous fiscal year. And -- but the compensation based on another method would -- which would require non-payment, no payments based for pension aspects and that -- and in contrast to the German and the corporate governance, the payments for withdrawing members would also have to be included. I'd say, there are many aspects, which apply to the compensation. And if the new compensation system were applied, the figures, the actual compensation payments made do depend primarily on the targets to achieve based on the Supervisory Board objectives. The variable payments, in case wherein Burkhard would have been with EUR 4,000 more based on the new compensation system than with respect to the payment actually made based on the old system. In terms of Ms. Merz, this couldn't -- doesn't -- simply doesn't apply because of her deployment. With respect to questions of former members of the Executive Board of various million euro, you wanted to know how that divides between active members and past members? And whether these -- you ask whether or not these payments are not extremely high because they refer to a time in the past when the company was more successful. Other questions were made about to -- first of all, let me -- the EUR 24 million paid applies to 50 -- to 15 members and applies to former members and their dependents. And the active payments for '19/'20 were EUR 6.4 million based on HGV, and the payments made to former members represent 3.8x that being paid to current members. About the question for excessive provisions for members. The -- those payments are based on provisions made and on by -- and on parameters made based on the balance sheet accounting methods. And the increases made in recent years is based on an interest rate of 0.7%. Therefore, the -- obviously, the orders that does consider and review such payments. And let me refer to a question referring to the time of the -- for the Supervisory Board and the Executive Board, how much time has been discussing this aspect? Why is the system so complicated? In the description, there is more details provided on this in the invitation than any other aspect. And the -- and it is based on the compensations as implied. The Supervisory Board dealt with it with one point of this agenda, and that was in the personnel committee. And according to the statement of a further company, 360 hours were contracted in order to assess this system of remuneration. And the guideline for the compensation out of 2, there was a new section now, 87, where it deals with the remuneration of members of the Board in great detail. And for that, we have the German corporate government -- governance guideline from 2019. And all of that leads to more transparency for the shareholders. So in other words, the description that we explained to you has to cover all aspects. And that includes the fact that I have to be talking here in great detail about this point. And this also is very similar to companies of a similar structure and size in Germany. So who is the independent expert? And what were the costs that we had to pay? Well, when it comes to this, we asked HKP based in Frankfurt. These are advisers. And this was what was discussed under item #7. So it was about EUR 100,000 more or less that we have to pay to this company. And then there were questions regarding the sustainability goals of the company. Mr. [ Bonzmen ], who is responsible for Union Invest for the sustainability, he asked this question. In the term -- in terms of environment, what are the points that you have to include in your sustainability report? Well, as we explained these, Board selects the long-term components out of a catalog. We look at the sustainability goals, which go beyond the 4-year performance period of time. Of course, we look at relevance, and of course, the maturity and the availability of the sustainability strategy, which is being developed at thyssenkrupp. For the current year, 2020, 2021, the ATI part, the sustainability goals were chosen from the field of employees and society. So we're looking at a reduction of the accident rate to 2.5 out of 1 million and an increase of having more women in leadership positions. We're now at 16%. Further sustainability goals, climate, energy, environment will be reflected in our climate action program. The KPIs would be dealing with our communicated climate goals. The reduction of CO2 emissions, for example. This is what we will focus on for sure. There's another question in a similar direction. It's different in its tonality decisions. This is the question of individual decisions of Board members. Can that also have impact on exports of armament? Or is the arms export something that is not part of it? The shareholder's right. I think that energy efficiency and energy supply should be included. But I think that arm's exports, I think, are part of the competence of group, thyssenkrupp. Well, we think the sustainability goals are being set for each financial year. And any business with customers in arms are not a section in itself, not a criteria in itself. Therefore, there is no contradiction here. But in all business, with sales of arms, and of course, in a very clear dialogue, where the government have to be ruled by the adherence to human rights criteria. Another question is, what happens if, in the new system, you will reach all the goals to 100%. And how much will that be exactly? Well, the target remuneration 2019, 2020 will be unchanged. As you can read on Page 136 of our business report. For the -- Ms. Merz, it will be EUR 4.9 million. For the other members, EUR 2.43 million. The fixed payment for the CEO is EUR 3.4 million. And for the others, EUR 700 million. And one shareholder wants to have explained, what is it that she has to earn 40 times more than the Chancellor of Germany? And the answer is, well, the payment of the Chancellor of Germany depends on the way you look at it. And if she's also a Member of Parliament, it's at EUR 300,000 or EUR 420,000. And for Mrs. Merz, we are at EUR 4.59 million. So it's not 1 to 40 times more, it would be 11x more. Well, of the members of the Board was checked by an independent expert and after the Elevator business has been divested. And therefore, the proportion at thyssenkrupp was between the 60s or the 70s point on the rating of all members of tax. And therefore, we are in the medium range of all those companies. And when it comes to remuneration for Board members and employees, well, the company is in a very difficult situation, and it has to sell parts of the company. What is the -- what impression are you giving of you having an even new and improved remuneration system? Let me answer. Well, of course, we know that the decisions that we make here have an impact on the employees. And for many employees, this is quite a burden to bear. But the new remuneration system, of course, is based on the principle of transparency and sustainability. And it is only based on really reaching the aim. So the individual performance of each member does not have to be evaluated. So by not including individual sustainability goals, we keep to our responsibility in terms of sustainability. The amount of remuneration is not changed by the new system. The amount of remuneration is not changed by the new system. I think everybody sees this in a positive light. In the governance roadshow, I discuss this with many, many investors, and the feedback from the investors was rather positive. Now there is a question regarding the remuneration system for the supervisory board. Well, there is no new payment system here. So we use the existing rules and regulations, and they are in keeping with the German Governance Kodex. And considering the situation of the company, they are appropriate. It is relatively low if you look at the -- comparing it to other members of the market. And apart from that, there were questions regarding management, which I will also answer. We were asked to give a statement to that decision -- to comment made in WDR. If I have responsibility, I have to face it. You cannot run a company like this. This means that the company will go belly up. Well, that was the quote from that TV program. This, of course, is directed at the foundation and not at the company, we can't speak for the foundation at this point of time. But I can tell you, as the Chairman of the Supervisory Board, the investors of thyssenkrupp are working in a very responsible fashion for the company and for the benefit of the company. There is another question, could Mrs. Fulbert as a new member of the board, could you explain how it could learn from Vibro-Acoustics induced book? And isn't there a conflict if she is at Vibro-Acoustics and thyssenkrupp at the same time? I can answer that question because we checked, of course, I presented her very briefly. Well, we're very happy to have Ms. Fulbert on board. She is an expert in her field. Since she started in October, she has been a great support for us and her level of competency when it comes to finding leaner structures, she's helping us on the board. And her job at Vibro-Acoustics does not manifest any conflict with the work here. And of course, she is sworn to confidentiality in our meetings as well as in the meetings of Vibro-Acoustics. We don't see that there's any conflict. As to me, there were questions too. Mr. Schmidt, DWS asked us in the course of the following 12 months, are you going to resign from any of the jobs that you have? Well, I was voted to be a member up until the end of '23, and I enjoy having this job. And as you see, I'm very committed to [Audio gap]. We are happy that you have the changed the sectors that give us a [indiscernible] board. And we also support the election of Mrs. Fulbert. Thank you very much for that. As to the over boarding, since 2021, apart from being at thyssenkrupp and and [indiscernible] the Hagen , also the President of the German Association of Industries, so we see that he is holding more than he's supposed to. How can you explain that you actually have enough time to work for thyssenkrupp? But first of all, I'm going to say that the amount -- the companies [indiscernible] and [indiscernible], these are not publicly traded. They have one owner. Therefore, when it comes to time, they cannot be compared to thyssenkrupp. And both companies are much, much smaller than thyssenkrupp. And therefore, from what I see the number of jobs are much below the recommendations of corporate code plus 2020, I have stopped working for [indiscernible] and BBS Automation. And believe me, I make sure that I have enough time to carry out my duties. As I said earlier, I -- we have many, many meetings, and it takes up a little time, and I have to make sure that I have that time, of course. Something else? Mr. Schmidt from DWS is asking a question. So what's the amount that can be retained. That is, of course a sign of good governance. And we do not agree that this deductible should be done away with on the contrary. So the question is, will you keep the deductible in your group and also report it on transparent fashion. We have a D&O insurance, which does not have a deductible at this point of time. Therefore, this is in keeping with the recommendations of the German Governance Code. And therefore, we have changed it. So this declaration that we have to make for the new system of remuneration. It is our aim, and we follow those recommendations of the German Governance Code. A question to the Supervisory Board. The future Supervisory Board work is going to be different. How can you -- or how can the future work make sure that blind loyalty and franchise clubs and understanding of franchise at thyssenkrupp. This apparently is a quote from [indiscernible] from his conference back in 2012. Well, the -- as we said on Page 13, the future work of the Supervisory Board in keeping with the recommendations have been discussed. And all identified fields have been, of course, supported and backed by a number of actions that aim towards a good work of the Supervisory Board. And those measures are being discussed and then implemented, and we do that in 2 phases. The first phase is up until the implementation of the important decisions -- business decisions and also extraordinary decisions of the Supervisory Board. And the second phase is the time after that. So the times then when thyssenkrupp is expect to being a very normal company again. So the understanding of -- described in 2012 was referring to the management structure or corporate culture back then, but not the way that the Supervisory Board was working and cannot refer to the work of the Supervisory Board of now because none of us were present back then in 2012. So as it is shown, the current work of the Supervisory Board is marked by a great discussion culture and a very transparent and open communication. Of course, we ask, how do we fare compared to other supervisory boards, and we received a very encouraging reply. At the very end of this huge block. Thank you for your patience. I shall not miss out on quoting Mr. Schmidt from DWS. We thank all employees for their work in the past business year for the success of the company. And we ask you to please forward this gratitude, and I can tell you, Mr. Schmidt. Yes. We do that with pleasure. So this is the end of Block 4, and now we move on to Block #5. Portfolio strategy. Thank you, Mr. Rottweil. We have various questions on the role of the company in the international competition. For example, the question, the role we play at international level. In the next 5 to 10 years, which role will we play? So a few facts upfront. At the moment, the thyssenkrupp is achieving 45% of its turnover internationally. Our key regional markets are on top of Europe, North America and China. And in these regions, we seek to improve our market position, obviously that applies, in particular, to automotive and/or industry components as Brazil and also outside of China also for our material services business. The important thing here is that our international growth still continues. And so we seek to improve our position in terms of green tech, electrolysis for wind power. The bearings for electrolysis and wind power. And in -- especially in countries where there is plenty of wind. And we see our sales there taking place mainly outside of Germany. Other question was referred to plant, whether the sale of the Cement business. Your actual question was, what is the situation in terms of such sales and whether we expect positive news there soon. And I have already given details of that in my speech because we do, of course, intend to -- within terms of our mining sales that we intend to get good results. But I cannot say any more about that than I've already said in my speech. Another subject in this relation is the situation of Steel Europe. A question from Mr. Tula was in the press that we've heard there was an alternative to sale was that one could have an IPO. And I think it is good that this option is still being discussed. About what is your position on this? And is that a serious option, which you consider viable? Well, Mr. [indiscernible], you also asked your from DECA Investments, which approach we intend for steel. You ask that the simple sale would have very complete questions associated with it. And whether the -- you really intend to have investments in steel and whether you can refrain from accepting the advances of Mr. Gupta? And what have you -- are your intentions here. Mr. Schmidt from DWS. you also asked what are the -- what is the outlook with respect to the sale of the steel sector to Liberty Steel? And I made various comments on that in my long speech. So just let me give you a brief summary of my response. Our overall goal is to keep steel future-proof. And that means in the past year, we have our sales strategy of last year, which has been described in press. Our strategy is called Steel 2030, and that is the basis of our actions. The Liberty Steel offer is currently being reviewed. And we're also working very hard on other options to have future-proof structure for steel within our own efforts and/or based on other sale options. The discussions with the federal governments and local governments for subsidies and support for as part of the green transformation process, these talks are continuing. Dr. [indiscernible] is a Head of Sustainability at UNI Investment. Mr. [indiscernible], you ask what is the future vision for thyssenkrupp? And which core competences you are intending to focus on. Mr. [indiscernible] you also asked what will remain of thyssenkrupp group, if steel was sold, and what are our strategic goals? Mr. Schmidt from DWS, you asked where is the core action for thyssenkrupp AG? So let me give you a summary answer to those questions. The core of our strategy is to transform thyssenkrupp into an internationally active group of companies, mainly independent and competitive business with a lean HQ. We stand for in the future for engineering, for technology and for service. And we -- those are roots. And that's where we intend to remain under review. We intend to achieve sustainable profitability and have sustainable cash flow. These are the benchmarks by which we will be measured and which will enable us to pay out reliable dividends in the future. And then we can offer future jobs -- safe jobs in the future and safe places of employment. At the same time, our core competence is so based on innovative products, our technological know-how and our industrial expertise, we will make an important contribution to having a good future for everyone and a world which is sustainable in the future. Dr. [indiscernible], you also asked the scope of thyssenkrupp activities in hydrogen technology and the level of investments, and how that is to be financed or where the funding is to come from? Mr. [indiscernible], you asked about similar issues, when we'll be prepared to be a strong partner in the hydrogen sector in order to have the funds available rapidly. So the reaction capacity, you mentioned of 1 gigawatt will not be sufficient. Competition is not asleep. And how do we intend to use the massive chances and the mass deal with the massive investments. You have asked very interesting questions. And we are very pleased that you have such a major interest in these issues. Last year, at the same time, we made decisions. We did start an internal project looking into exactly these questions. And address such issues. This project look, is an analysis of, on the one hand, the market growth potential and various business models and also logically, looking to the question of where the hydrogen business is something we can do alone or should develop it with external partners and what kind of level such partnership should be. These are not trivial questions, obviously. The market is very much subject to dynamic development, and that is why we need to have a thorough look at necessary investments. And obviously, we will give you all information about such investments in the hydrogen when such decisions are made. Mr. [indiscernible], you also asked about the potential we expect from demand for green hydrogen in the next few years for green hydrogen. The studies we have available show that the hydrogen market will be very dynamic, growing in its growth. And electrolysis will have a market volume in 2030 of more than EUR 20 billion. The general speed will depend on many separate factors, for example, funding available, state funding, regulatory conditions, and for example, the productivity and cost advances made for this energy source. As this is -- as demand ramps up for green hydrogen, factors are -- these are factors, which cannot be influenced alone by thyssenkrupp. In terms of the technology, we are in a good position. And we have commercial and technological viable options available. We are preparing for meeting increasing demands. It will depend on using the full potential of our company, exploiting that potential to the fullest amount and either with partners or co-investors or internally. I can say there's a constant issue amongst some discussions at the executive board level. Here in the region, we have a very good basis for making the best use of our advantages. And we're also asked what is the restructuring of the company. How does that reflect in the future, medium-term and long term? And whether there is a schedule you're working on. Yes, we do have a road map and the strategy for transformation is clear. We have developed a plan and the presentation of that plan was in -- was made in May 2020. And during that presentation, we said that we -- it will take a number of years before we see the results in terms of our figures. And that was before. That was a while, obviously, the pandemic has hit us and is issue, but we still have a very challenging target, and we intend to keep to that target. And as I've also detailed, over the next few months, many key decisions will be made, for example in terms of multitracks and also for steel. Mr.[indiscernible], you also asked about -- in terms of multitrack because the cash flow is very much burdened by that. And please refer to my speech. I have provided details of that. In terms of multitrack, majority of the structuring -- we have structured M&A activities planned there. And we -- I've given you details as opposed to sites, but we are also discussing with potential buyers and partners. And we assume that during the course of this fiscal year, we will have made great progress. Parallel to that, we are also working in all multitrack businesses on improving financial performance. The segment will, in the course of this fiscal year, make a material contribution to improving thyssenkrupp's financial situation. And let me now hand over to Oliver Burkhard.
Oliver Burkhard
executiveThere's a question from Mr. [indiscernible]. You talked about marine systems, which burdens -- which hurdles need to be overcome to get -- have that -- have these defensive -- these defense activities, hand it over to another source? Let me assure you, we are still looking at the dual-track very much at thyssenkrupp. We can either alone or develop it with partners and whichever is the best option. And when such a conversation makes sense, when it does make sense then thyssenkrupp will support that action. So thank you for that. This moves on to Block 6. This is financial. So let me hand over to Mr. Keysberg.
Klaus Keysberg
executiveMr. Tulan, you asked the level of pension provisions, whether they are fully covered or not? thyssenkrupp, on the September 30, 2019, their pension obligation of EUR 10.6 billion, and there was a coverage there of EUR 2.5 billion. And of that EUR 8 billion applied to Germany and EUR 0.2 billion for planned assets. so the uncovered domestic obligations are around EUR 5 million -- EUR 5 billion. And another question you asked, how you intend to solve the pension obligation problem? And what are our payments to pensioners and the German pension plans. And how are they covered by the cash flow of the company? These are provisions -- pensions covered by provisions. The strategy on this, this is a long-term aspect and helps stabilize the company's long-term financial situation. Another aspect is that in February 20, 2020 during the elevator transaction, we had -- we intended to finance our obligation -- financial pension obligations, but we decided, as discussed, to delay that in order to keep our financial options open, and we cannot make any concrete details of that available now. Mr. [indiscernible], you asked specifically about the capital costs. Let me -- don't you think it's contradictory that for the management for the steel, you have -- you assume the maximum capital ratio, whereas for the balance sheet assessment, you use the no [indiscernible] rated average cost of capital of 7.6% or 6.9%. In the other operative areas, you assume higher capital costs. Don't you agree that it is placebo that the capital cost in the steel sector should be higher than other sectors, in particular, sale for the elevator business and -- which we can see in the results of that sale because steel is a cyclic business. And as is justified in the figures. I would ask you to give us the differences for the beta factor, for example, the land risk premium and outside capital, their capital structure and indebtedness. I would also ask you to give us details of the peer groups and the balance sheet, capital costs and the beta factors for companies in terms of debt. And the rack at thyssenkrupp is the minimum interest right for performance benchmark -- as benchmark for investment projects for -- to have continuity in these considerations, we use smooth adjusted figures and half or -- and rounded up to half or full percentage points. They differ because of different risks of the different businesses. And the specific risks of the business and the steel is higher than for other business sectors, then, for example, material services. The impairment tests used per cash generated unit, the CGUs are in contrast. They actually use a standard algorithm. And the decisive aspect here for capital cost is the data derived from the parameters you also mentioned for the beta parameter, for example. So some areas have a relatively high level of indebtedness, which have the result of reducing the overall capital costs. Based on the beta factor parameters and land, risk and outside capital ratios, our capital structure and indebtedness ratio. The cash generation units and the cash distribution services, which is the biggest CGU of the material services on September 30, 2020, had the following great supply indebted beta factor of 1.9% and 1.8% for the material services. The land risk , 0.05%; and distribution services 0.38%. Outside capital costs before tax, 3.37% for distribution, 4.23%. Capital structure, indebted ratio for Steel Europe 53.39% and 35%. For the peer groups and the beta factor, peer group, Steel Europe, including [indiscernible] AG XSB, first [indiscernible], GP, data steel at 0.6% and 1.0%. The indebted beta factors as 0.03% and 0.49% for the peer group distribution services at [indiscernible], Metal B Group, Airconnect scope metals and Royal Ascot holding. And the UN indebted rates are 0.7% and 0.94% and the -- between 0.91 and 1.78%. Another question from Mr. [indiscernible]. Did you -- have you thought about the long-term growth rates differ? For example, because price increases are also different also because of competition being different. For example, if you compare steel or marine, please explain how you come to your estimates of the general rate of 0 point -- how you come to your figures for growth? Do you refer to estimates for long-term inflation rates? Or how do you do it? Yes, we have thought about the points you make that the long-term growth rates are different. And this applies to all cash-generating units, which is based on an adjusted algorithm, which is adjusted for HCG who placed, for example, inflation in the individual books. This arrives at different growth rates per CGU. For the purpose of the impairment test, these have a cap. The cap was risen to 1.2% and is based in accordance with the auditors agreement based on the long-term inflation rate. In the past, the inflammation rate is concerned, we get that from HIS Market. The question about the HQ here in Essen. What about the book value adjustment for your HQ in Essen? The book value is based -- is now EUR 214 million, and the justification is in the course of the value test, the operative book values for corporate and corporate assets, which include the HQ, have to be proportionally adjusted to all of the CGUs. So various CGUs had under coverage. And so the value is actually less than the book value according to corporate assets. And because of this under cut, the corporate assets had to be reduced. This is now Block 7, which is called segments. Let me hand over to Ms. Merz.
Martina Merz
executiveThank you. And you asked about hydrogen, which is playing a larger and larger role for our activities. And also to do with steel production, you assume -- you've seen that will be positive for chemical plant construction but -- well, the question you ask is, can you please explain which potential you see in hydrogen for alkali you see also in steel production and in plant building. Well, as to hydrogen, I think, already -- I've spoken to the subject, and I think it is quite clear that we see a major potential there. Well, to have a CO2 neutral street production is something that we do in stages. We want to go to a hydrogen-based production with the CO2 production -- reduction, of course. At the same time, we want to build a risk reduction, CO2 reduction plant in order to replace a regular furnace. And bit by bit, all furnaces will be replaced or regular furnaces where we replaced by CO2 reduced furnaces. That's, of course, an investment sum of about EUR 1 billion. But of course, to purchase climate neutral hydrogen. This will increase the price. But climate neutral steel will probably more expensive than conventionally manufactured steel. And no steel manufacturer can pay for that itself. Therefore, we need the political sphere to create a system of incentives to make sure that green steel can be manufactured. So the critical shareholders had a number of questions to our international business relations. Are there any concrete exclusions when it comes to the use of fossil energies, if so, which ones are they? And if not, why not? Well, to look at potential project participation, of course, always takes into account questions of sustainability. Our criteria include, among others, include management recycling, waste management recycling and other aspects of the nature. That is always included. Apart from that, we need an individual and careful examination of each project. So there is no blanket exclusion system that we use, but we evaluate each individual proposal. Second question was, what are the current or planned coal projects, coal mines and power plants are being supplied by thyssenkrupp? Where do we plan to participate? And the question is, currently, we -- thyssenkrupp, we are involved in a number of smaller projects, double-digit investments, double-digit million investment, where it comes to the exhibition of coal. So we provide products for mining. And these are conveyance systems or loading platforms. But also these operation plans for carbon plants. But of course, we are in adherence with the Paris Accords. And thus the reduction of the use of coal for energy. We are convinced that coal cannot be done without overnight. Therefore, we want to use coal as ecologically as possible, please refer to my input when I talked about mining and that we are thinking of actually selling that part of our business. And you're also talking about cement works in Western Sahara. We got the contract back in 2016, near El-Aaiún, the capital of the West Saharan Republic. And the question is, have you completed the job? And since when is it in operation? And the answer is to thyssenkrupp received the order -- was awarded the order for the cement works. But it was finished in 2019 and commissioning. Another question was, are there -- are you planning on having any other projects in West Sahara? And if so, which ones? And the answer is thyssenkrupp currently does not have any projects in Western Sahara and none are being planned. And Mr. [indiscernible] keeps asking, are you aware of the fact that West Sahara is, in fact, being occupied by Morocco? Yes, we at thyssenkrupp are aware of the difficult political situation in Northern Africa. And of course, we follow these developments. We hope, of course, that diplomatic efforts and economic development will help to ease the situation. And the United Nations has declared West Sahara as an occupied area. And any contracts that you'd sign with Moroccan government are not admissible. How did you get the approval of the people of West Sahara? Well, in this project, it was the delivery of components for a cement works for a private customer. We delivered a packaging unit, and it is in private property. Whatever that person or that company then negotiated with the Moroccan government is out of our sphere of influence. Apparently it is according -- there are infections to the Geneva convention in West Sahara. Can you really make sure that none of your components can be used for human rights abuses? And we say, we do not see any connection there. There is no linkage. From what we know, the cement works as local customers and is an impulse for the local business community. But again, this is all in the hands of a private company. Do you consider this to be in accordance with international law? Our answer is, we do not assume that we have broken any laws. For deliveries into West Sahara back then. And even now, there are no official embargoes. There are no restrictions for EU countries. Next question? The recognized Frente Polisario has declared the area as a war zone in April of 2020. And how do you see your commitment there, knowing that this is a war zone now? As we said, we finished our job there in 2019. There is no risk for thyssenkrupp. Further question? As to your projects in Western Sahara and Morocco, did you carry out an audit? And if so, what were the findings of that audit, especially when it comes to the adherence to human rights standards? thyssenkrupp carried out audits with OCP. That's our client. And there were no indications that human rights violations were committed. Thank you very much, Mr. [indiscernible]. Yes. And we get questions regarding restructuring in individual sites. They say that Olpe are going to close. How is it that the experiences can be carried to the other plants? When was the last time that anybody from the board ever visited the plant? Well, Olpe is not profitable. And that's why -- this means the surveillance are carried out by other plants. We can only keep these contracts by having them carried out at other plants. They go to Debrecen, Mexico and China. Debrecen for some time now is running at capacity level? And there are colleagues from Olpe helping out there. The colleagues in Mexico are very, very experienced, and they can do that job. There was a social acceptable arrangement reached with the workers at Olpe. Board members, the last time was on the 13th of January, were present. Next one will be in April. But it was not the board of the entire group. The last time it was in February 2019. And then also as to CO2 emissions. And the rules and regulations emitted by the European Union. How do you see the prospects for steel in Europe? Can we ever be profitable in Europe again in steel? Yes. As we already pointed out, various times, it is quite a challenge to change the production modes. We are changing the technology. We want to go from coal to hydrogen. Europe has very ambitious aims, but also beyond the borders of Europe, this is a big issue now. So not only in Europe, but anywhere in the world, the steel industry will have challenges. But it is also an opportunity to be the first in green technology. But of course, for that, we have to find market green light market for Europe and establish a market within the right regulatory conditions. And then there was a question. What are the plans for the steel group, which at the moment is not profitable. Steel, at the moment, has a clear future strategy. And because of the pandemic, we need more measures than the ones that we had already adopted, performance and increase of productivity, cost efficiency and targeted investment, the portfolio and the transformation for neutral starting position and the digitization is part of that. 2030 is not connected to who is the owner, no matter who is going to be running steel will need that. I think we are on the right way, and we're setting the pace. Another question as to Steel Europe. In the past business year, did you develop any new steels? And if so, which ones? And what was the aim? So where do we have a USP? And do we have new production technologies? And if so, which ones were the right -- the most important ones? Yes, new steels were developed, multi fiber steels and those that we need for e-mobility. So -- and that, of course, is part of that strategy for 2030 that I just described. For a neutral starting position and the digitization is part of that. 2030 is not connected to who is the owner, no matter who is going to be running steel will need that. I think we are on the right way, and we're setting the pace. Another question as to Steel Europe. In the past business year, did you develop any new steels? And if so, which ones? And what was the aim? So where do we have a USP? And do we have new production technologies? And if so, which ones were the right -- the most important ones? Yes, new steels were developed, multi-fiber steels and those that we need for e-mobility. So -- and that, of course, is part of that strategy for 2030 that I just described, especially electromobility and steel bending. And when we were talking about flat steels. We have found special means of manufacturing steel with a low-carbon input that has been also discussed in the medium. And warm reshaping is the keyword in this new technology. So furnace one for the efficiency, we call it sequencing impulse procedure with induced waves. It's either -- it's carbon that is being injected to optimize the use of carbon and reduce it, of course. [indiscernible] asked: The sustainability regulations makes it difficult for you. What is the strategy when it comes to the CO2 reduction and how much is this going to cost the steel division? Is there any chance for growth for new products? Well, at this point of time, I'd like to give you concrete terms. We want the avoidance of CO2 by using hydrogen. And when we use carbon, we use the Carbon2Chem procedure, in other words, a reduction of the use of carbon. So the one at the new furnace 9 in Duisburg, those tests have been started in 2019. But in the long run, we need a new technology that does away with carbon completely. But we're not there yet. So we want an iron ore reduction. And at the end of the day, it will be completely carbon-free. And the first new melters will be operational in 2022 in the Carbon2Chem technology that we spoke, so we changed it to basic chemicals. So we were able to form ammonium by carbon and ammonia gas has been performed, and we have been receiving subsidies from the government for this new technology. So climate transformation is a great opportunity for steel in Europe. There are requests for CO2-reduced products, and we think that we can be leading in this green technology, but we need framework conditions, the establishment of markets for such products, plus, of course, the support of the government.
Unknown Executive
executiveThank you very much, Klaus. Now we're talking about the business unit in marine -- how many submarines 212A, 214 are being built at the moment? How many more submarines? And how many more contracts are in the pipeline?
Unknown Executive
executiveWell, the answer is, at the moment, 5 to 12 boats or higher are being manufactured, and we have a contract with Fincantieri in Italy for material components for 2 more boats for 2012 for the Italian Navy. The next one is also for boat class. How many of the boating class are being built at the moment, and for how many more submarines? Do you have any contracts signed? The answer is, there is one [indiscernible] is being built right now. We don't have any further orders in that class. And then how many of the Frigates of F121 are being built, and for how many more do we have contracts? At the moment? Only 2 Frigates of 121 for the German Navy. And number three, Sachsen-Anhalt; number four, Rheinland-Pfalz will be done in October of '21. No further contracts from the German Navy and also no options for the export. Next question, according to the media, Atlas Electronik, with Airbus, developed a [indiscernible], system, the ship tracking system. SIGNALIS is the name of the system. So what is the part of thyssenkrupp or Atlas in this in terms of money? Well, the answer is SIGNALIS was a joint venture between Atlas and -- joint venture. The vessel traffic system and Airbus use the the MS, maritime safety part. But all of that was sold to Airbus in 2016 because it was not profitable for us. And we wanted to consolidate portfolios, and therefore, we sold it now. As to the exports of armament, well, in the German parliament, on the 29th of January, 3 parliamentary groups wanted to have an embargo for shipments to Turkey. The TKMS should not be delivered to Turkey. Why do you think that you can still sell it to Turkey, even though the Turkish government is very aggressive? Please do not say that it's up to the German government. No. The answer is this: We've signed a contract with Turkey more than 10 years ago. And we, of course, fulfill our contractual obligations. And of course, this is always in keeping with the guidelines established by the German government, the German Minister of Defense was just talking to her counterpart in Turkey. Of course, we always are guided by the rules of the German government. Now a couple of questions at the same time. Now that the Eastern Mediterranean, there was some oil -- gas was found and there is a risk that there may be an escalation of the conflict between Turkey and Greece. And the question is, to what extent do you think you can still sell arms to Turkey, when you have such a situation, plus the human rights have not been respected in Turkey. And then there were sales of the submarine to Egypt. Well, in a committee of the parliament. He said that Germany is actually selling arms to the conflict in Yemen. We need an embargo that is very clear. So the question now is to what extent do you consider sending arms -- submarines to Egypt -- to a country that is involved in an armed conflict? And how do you consider the reputational risk that may arise from such activity? And now, a last question here. With the 2 corvettes in Itajai, the former shipyard Itajai. With that, Brazil wants to get a better navy. Bolsonaro, the President of Brazil, is being taken to court internationally. With his sons, he's talking about the use of military force against this neighbor of Venezuela. Do you think that -- and obviously, the answer is that the government provides the legal framework for such work. That is right upfront before we consider any such deals. And we are -- that is a practice -- that is always a consideration for such activities. Morocco, does that receive, or are there any deliveries planned in Morocco? There are no marine systems. Are they planned, or are they taking place? Are any other arms activities planned with Brazil? The contract for the construction for frigates were signed on the 5th of March 2020. In the 4th of September, it was -- became enforced. Other options do not exist. And let me hand it back to [ Mr. Usman ].
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executiveThank you for that. Let's move on to Block 8, which is sustainability and energy transformation. Dr. [indiscernible], you asked when will you officially implement the -- of the client-related financial disclosures. And when will you implement that and follow the reporting guidelines, what is your schedule on that? And the answer is the recommendations of the TCFE are obviously an important orientation for tk for its client-related porting. For the implementation of the recommendations, thyssenkrupp, the end of calendar 2020, it published a complementary report format. The reference table is available from our website for externals. The climate-related reporting for tk, also for those recommendations, is in further development on an ongoing basis. [indiscernible], you also asked about climate issues. For example, thyssenkrupp has 23 million tonnes of greenhouse gas emissions. You're one of the worst culprits in Germany. But what about relating to Scope 3 for those using tk products? There are no -- there's no information list on your current annual report. And this -- the objective for thyssenkrupp for Scope 3 emissions from the use of tk products is by 2030, to have a reduction of 16%, which is not very much. And bearing in mind the need to keep global warming below 1.5 degrees integrate. What are these Scope 3 emissions, which arise through the use of tk products? And what is the rate of Scope 3 emissions during the past fiscal year? The modeling of Scope 3 modeling is based on corporate value chain accounting and reporting for the climate greenhouse gas emissions. The Scope 3 calculations are based on -- will take place after the annual report in accordance with -- and is reported to the organization and are not available for '19, '20. But the -- those figures are available in the carbon disclosure project website. But figures for last year are not there, but for the year before, they are already there. The fraction of Scope 3 emissions on overall emissions, so Scope 2 and 3 together, so 1, 2 and 3 together. The modeling of Scope 3 emissions, so those arising from the use of our products, the share of modeled Scope 3 for our overall carbon footprint is 90%. The main fraction comes from CO2 emissions through the use of our products. For example, the use of steel products in cars and the operation of cement plant made by us for our customers. And this is a simple issue because Scope 3 sometimes only refers to the emissions from the supply chain. But Scope 3 also refers to materials and product in the use by our end customers. The third question is why do you not currently publish any Scope 3 details? I answered that with my answer to question one. And we need to point out, in terms of transparency for climate reporting, we are, depending on the -- we have been -- received accolades from that organization for our climate disclosure data. And that was last the case in September of 22 -- 2020. These climate targets of 1.5 degrees Celsius based on the Paris agreement. The ambition at thyssenkrupp is to reduce Scope 1 and Scope 2 emissions by 30%, and also Scope 3 emissions by 16% by 2030. By 2050, we want to be climate-neutral. These reductions will help contribute towards the goals of the Paris agreement to keep the average global warming below 2 degrees. The -- our tk objectives help towards achieving the goals and are validated by the science-based targets. The first question you make is, which concrete measures are planned in order to achieve this goal -- the goal for Scope 3 emissions? As I said, the far larger share of emissions is from the use of our products. And that is why our -- we are applying our main actions here. Emissions are reduced by having innovative technological solutions in action at our customers, mainly in having climate green chemicals, green cement, green hydrogen, renewable energies, for example, renewable power. Further development of our CCU technologies, Carbon2Chem, goes beyond the steel industry, for example, for cement clients. And ultimately, our contributions to sustainability in mobility and e-mobility through the use of innovative components such as electric steering systems [indiscernible] wire and also light construction steels. They also help contribute to reduce emissions for e-mobility. And Mr. [ Duffner ], if you can join us in promoting our products, we will be very grateful for that. What -- investments are planned to achieve the goals of Scope 3? Innovation expenses are EUR 800 million per year. The majority of the innovations are focused on producing sustainable products with -- in order to help substantially reduce emissions. Key activities are not only on the development of climate-friendly products, but also, above all, on our contributions in working together with our clients in order to help them achieve climate protection goals. This move -- this helps us move on to Block 9, which is an organization. I have a question here from [ Dr. Thomson ] for sustainability. And the question is, what are we doing in terms of corporate governments and diversity in order to improve that at thyssenkrupp? Corporate governance and diversity are measured at thyssenkrupp. We've been addressing that issue for many years now at thyssenkrupp, and have been undertaking actions to achieve. We want corporate governance in order to improve trust with our partners and staff and in the public field in monitoring our activities. In terms of -- in keeping with legal regulations, we follow the corporate governance Codex, which also, for example, relates to the revised compensation system, as put forward in agenda 0.7. In terms of corporate governance, we have close and trusting relations and activities in the Supervisory Board. And in the work of the Executive Board and the committees all will satisfy all the requirements. And it is the job of the supervisor to have quality and value criteria in order to improve the flow of information between the committees and the main board, and also to ensure that the Supervisory Board and these committees have sufficient information available in order to -- for the debates. I, myself, in my role as Chairman of the Supervisory Board, also ensured there was great dialogue on our government themes in Europe, in Germany, in America, for example, and have an active exchange of information between our company and all bodies relating to corporate governments in terms of -- we seek equality and -- equality of opportunities. And this the quality is also very much a part of our corporate culture. We have introduced flexible time working models. We have introduced childcare options and home office opportunities. All employees should be able to develop with us freely and based on their own potential irrespective of creed or race or sexual orientation. tk introduced a 5-year goal for introducing women to higher management roles. And by -- in 5 years' time, 16% of leadership -- leading management propositions are to be held by women. That is we would then have as many women in leadership management roles as in the workforce overall. And I think we will be able to achieve our goals. We want to -- we don't want -- we want to achieve our fair share in terms of quality between the genders. [ Mr. Usman ], thank you for that. We were how we tend to move from work to our principle if positions cannot be -- are open and our vacant within thyssenkrupp. We seek to ensure that throughout the company. These -- such vacancies are advised. And we intend to -- this is based on, for example, the work for the future law, and which has also been improved as part of our transformation process. The responsible visibility and execution of such aspects has to do with the local and the various business units. And they are also responsible for local interpretation, the regulations for internal changing of vacancies within the thyssenkrupp group as opposed to it some other businesses. We have improved activities in this sense in order to advise companies within the group of any vacancies occurring. We have the placement offers, and these take place within these segments and across segments. We also have transfer companies plus internal solutions cannot be found. We also work, for example, with models with extended transfer. So the short-term period of 12 months has been extended 24 months. And this also is purely used to help employees gain further qualifications for their future employment options. Restructuring measures, what are the plans? And what are the plans for job shedding within Germany? And let me say on that, thyssenkrupp is currently, as we've heard several times -- and it's the biggest transformation process it's ever had within its history. And this is not possible without cutting some jobs. And that is also in response to corona. We have discussed these restructuring measures to a great extent and also provided details of the process. By '23, we will have cut 11,000 jobs across the board, and it was in Germany, about 7,000 will be affected by the end of December, about 4,000 jobs of those 11,000 had been cut and appropriate social and welfare plans were agreed with the local organizations. And a certain fraction of those 4,000 obviously affected Germany. The future -- these such measures are absolutely vital in order to secure the future of thyssenkrupp and the remaining jobs. We seek to find appropriate solutions which are socially and economically acceptable. And we have appropriate agreements in place; balancing of interest, flexible time working and the use of furloughs. And all of the tools available to human resource departments are obviously all applied. We are now moving on to a question relating to -- bearing in mind the global activities of the company that -- and the international characteristics of its shareholders. Would it be better to go over to a European corporate form? I'm sure the executive Board members are aware of the benefits of this corporate form, and other German companies have already taken this move. So that was the question. The answer is, as far as we are concerned, taking thyssenkrupp into a group of companies, as we've would explained, that is the top priority, and that is why we are not currently looking at the possibility you mentioned for to changing thyssenkrupp AG to thyssenkrupp SA, a European registered company. We intend to retain the benefits of the AG. But the SA does not produce only benefits, but also involves costs, et cetera, which can be avoided by not taking that step.
Unknown Executive
executiveThank you, Mr. [indiscernible]. This moves on to the last of our segments, but it is a large block. This is miscellaneous. So I will be -- need to help with all my colleagues on the stage. So this is from Mr. Schmitt from DWS. if shareholders have asked questions, can they ask follow-up questions? Let me say that this option for our first, this is not available for our first online AGM. Overall, we are -- and personally for the modernization of the AGM procedures. And -- but I'm sure that in the future, that the follow-up questions can -- will be an option. But at the moment, we need to have a revised legal framework within which that can be done. And that situation is not yet, today, the case. We will -- just as in the past, it is not possible to provide written answers to the questions asked at the AGM. [indiscernible], your turn.
Unknown Executive
executiveMr. Schmitt you also wanted to know the scope of business relationship existing between [ [indiscernible] and tk. The scope of those business relationships between [indiscernible] and thyssenkrupp Group is very low. And on top of that, the turnover and payments have been reducing in recent years. Mr. [ Duffner ], you also asked about payments by tk during -- between 2018 and 2020 were made to lobbyists, which party -- which payments are made to political parties and to metal organizations and associations? thyssenkrupp has made no payments to lobbyists in order to influence the political agenda. thyssenkrupp AG is a member of various organizations and associations. And during the report year, paid 830,000 in expenditure for its activities. Which party, political payments have been made? We cannot answer that because we would ask you to simply contact those parties who can provide details of that. In terms of sponsoring, you asked whether thyssenkrupp the system group executive members or supervisory board or managers of subsidiaries are -- have made political payments to political parties during the same time period. Our answer is we are not -- we have no information available on private payments made by organ members to political parties. We do not have such information. Second question was, has thyssenkrupp made any party sponsoring activities in that time period? If any answers were, yes -- if yes, please give us information based on amount, receiving party and date and sponsoring party and type of sponsoring. The answer is that in addition to the basic principle that no sponsorship will be made -- that payments will be we made to political parties, we also do not undertake any party sponsoring. The questions you've made in that relation can, therefore, all be answered with no. And since neither take place, then we can give you no details of such payments. The third question, were there payments made by thyssenkrupp or any of its subsidiaries to political parties in the years 2018 to 2020? Again, our answer is thyssenkrupp has a very clear regulation. We do not sponsor any political parties. This was -- is on the basis of a resolution by the Board, and it has to be respected. So from 2018 to 2020, there have been no donations by thyssenkrupp or any of its companies to a political party. And what is the development of that since 2000, and what has changed? Again, since we do not donate money to any of the parties, that's something that we have been doing for many, many years like that. Some shareholders, especially Mr. [indiscernible], we received the note that there was no printed business report. Well, please bear with us. But from now on, we only have our business reports as a download in the internet. This is due to the fact that most people avoid paper, plus, of course, that helps us also to save money and also to protect our resources. But of course, we're happy that our shareholders read the business report. But nowadays, tablets provide a simple reading. And we see that, especially by these questions, that our shareholders can ask questions and ask many, many questions in -- even though there is no printed business report. It wouldn't be very difficult to print some of the copies. Well, we can say that this is only a fraction of the moneys that the Board members receive. Well, I can only tell you that the costs are only a partial aspect. But last year, these business reports, we've manufactured only for the annual meeting. But we noticed that fewer people wanted to actually have one, and we only sent out 40 copies. What are the costs? Well, EUR 15,800 for print layout. So it's actually EUR 16 a piece plus shipping and handling. Mr. Schmitt also asked how many questions we have. I think it's been answered already. 139 questions from 31 shareholders. Yes. We also received some questions as to data protection. The question is, do you have screening or some kind of supervision of the e-mails of employees? The answer is very clear that thyssenkrupp, we do not carry out any screening. We do not supervise e-mails or control them. In individual cases, we may have a special investigation moments. But of course, we have compliance investigations. But this is always in keeping with the Data Protection Act. And of course, always in coordination with the data protection office of the company. We use different filters. That's why the annexes, the attachments of e-mails are checked for hostile virus attacks and any spam is also deleted automatically. This is only to make sure that the individual structure -- our infrastructure is still working. We do not evaluate e-mails of individuals. And the other question was if at thyssenkrupp, we use -- we collect any information on the health records of our employees? And if so, what kind of data? Again, here at thyssenkrupp, we only use this data within the framework of the Data Protection Act. And only if it comes to employment contracts, pregnancies and so on. That is something that we, of course, then record. And when people apply for a position, we only use the data that are relevant for the job that they wish to apply for. And in this context, any data used? It depends, of course, on the type of job, the individual person is applying for. And at thyssenkrupp to do employment contracts, we only use those data process, those das that are required: address, age and so on. And of course, only after the candidate has consented to the use of these data. And when it comes to data protection at thyssenkrupp AG and the subsidiaries, is there any database on critical journalists, for example, peace activist? And if so, what kind of data do you keep? I can tell you, we don't do any of that. We do not collect data on people like that. All we do have a mailing list of journalists if we want to have a press release so that -- or we want to invite them to certain events. So again, to what extent does thyssenkrupp support children and youth, juveniles? Do you help schools? We are an active member of the society. We're good neighbors. We have our social responsibilities. And we want to help create framework conditions for good society by improving technology and innovations at locations in Germany. And I'm only talking about Germany now. We continuously donate funds to schools or associations, football clubs and so on, [ precious ] day care centers and so on. We have partnerships in corporations at our largest site Duisburg, Develop Your Skills. That's a project children who are in year 7, to give them the chance to look at different types of professions. We have what we call the technology bus that goes to different schools and we help parents to help their kids at home, not only during the pandemic, but also outside of these times. And another question that was asked was if the -- how can you measure the productivity of people who are working in home office? Do you record the screen time, the use of the mouse pad and so on? Well, productivity of our people in the home office can be measured by good results. We don't use any recording devices. We trust our folks. We do not have to control and supervise them. We have contracts done in this period of codetermination with the Works Council, and it's based on trust. So we have the use of any kind of those tools, workplace analytics, for example, is something that we do not use or provide. Quality assurance of tools are only used within the framework of what the law provides for and what the Data Protection Act provides for. Okay. I pass over to Mr. [indiscernible].
Unknown Executive
executiveYes, one shareholder asked a number of very specific questions. And I would love to answer these questions. So in reported period, EBIT included Page 39, 40 and 51 and 172 parts of positive effects from currency hedges, 1.8 million and [indiscernible] 1.7 million hedges. These positive effects of the hedges, where are they recorded? In sales, profitability and other income and the profit and loss accounts also uses the category of other income for those hedges. Automotive technology, we have larger expenses for the new evaluations and also for reserves. Page 39, 48, 52 and 172 in the report. How much was it in total for automotive? And how can you explain that? And how many millions was the invest for reserves that needed to be formed? And where are they recorded? And which position, look at Page 202, do we find these funds that were used for the reserves? Okay. I'll give you the answer now. Well, for automotive, we are talking about the difficulty in the supply chain. And also, of course, that we couldn't go to the construction sites, the limitations in travel and contacting customers. So we had to reevaluate the order level. And in total, it was EUR 62.3 million. Percentage of completion, the new evaluations and the loss profit and loss accounts are reflected in the part where it says Contracts with Clients. 50 million can be recorded as additional -- addition allocations. 40 million, especially in the area of advertising guidelines. On Page 39, in plant construction EUR 1 million was the result -- was the profit from sale of a building, EUR 10.5 million. What did you sell? And for what reason? An office building in Mexico City. thyssenkrupp Industrial Solution SA, Mexico City. It would have been necessary to invest GBP 5.6 million -- $5.6 million in order to refurbish that building. We didn't want to do that, so we sold it. And where do we see that position? Yes. Where it says in the profit and loss accounts, sale of assets. So the special effects, Page 50, you can see that we have encumbrances. And with the sale of Elevator, what exactly was the cost that was burdened -- that burdened the sale for us. And [ EUR 8 million ] was the entire amount that was used in order to carry out the Elevator division. EUR 7.1 million is the answer. And the extraordinary depreciations and material services, we're not there. It was only was used in the equity method and to the special expenses in corporate headquarters, it was EUR 102 million. Question number five. What kind of transfers actions are at Switzerland holding -- Netherland Holding BV? Well, they have equity of EUR 9.1 million. What business do they do? And how much of that was then transferred to the parent company? Well, it was a one-off effect in the sale of this business segment. And take out Netherland Holding BV, it's a holding company to administer certain participations. And from the result of the business year, it was EUR 4.5 million. That was then transferred to Thyssenkrupp. In the risk report, 100 on -- 140, Page 140, the indicated risks were a lot higher in the previous year. Why was it high last year? And then this year, only medium? Well, in various groups, as we said, we did corrections and we considered the risk to be lower. So the adjustment were carried out accordingly with value adjustments. And no evaluation is given on Page 114. So what are the risks out of obligations resulting from reserves at pensions? Well, this does not have any effect on the basic control of the company. And since our equity ratio was fairly low in the previous years, we included that in our risk assessment. But now that our equity ratio has increased because of the elevator sale, we don't need to point out that there are any equity risks. That's why we don't have any separate evaluation for pension obligations. The effects for personnel risks, HR risks seem to be fairly low. In the previous year, it was medium. Why did you change the HR risk from medium to low? Well, the lower assessment of HR risks compared to the previous year has a slightly different view of the pandemic than in the past. Before corona, we had a significant loss of people within the group and then reflected that. This is what we call HR risk when somebody wants to leave the company. But during corona, we saw completely different aspects, the problem of the economic situation. And the risk of pandemics is then -- within the category of risks, is not an HR risk, but it's a risk of the future development of the company. So we have the sum of the depreciations and the value adjustment of the continued developments of 1,100 -- EUR 1.2 billion. But if I look at the pages 132 and 138, I see that the value adjustment, I come to the sum of EUR 460 million, I arrive at a different sum. So how can you explain the difference in the value adjustment? So you have here a list of the difference in the value adjustments of those different years. Well, the answer is, in the segment report, we only have the depreciation for assets. In the -- when we're looking at the capital flow, then we have all of the depreciations, including assets. Question number 10. In cash flow, you have a list of the individual EUR 157 million in the previous year is different. So the question is, what can you see behind that particular point in the position here? The answer is that mainly these items are as payment -- active payments and not endorsed as factoring. The 11th question. The result from the equity method of participants was EUR 4 million last year, EUR 6 million, and see also the annual report of '19/'20, other details were not available in the report. What is the level in terms of millions of euros was the result using the equity method and balanced interest from the equity consolidation versus the equity from sales and value reductions? The answer is the proportionate value from negative balancing is around EUR 11 million. And previously, the value was about EUR 7 million. And in '19/'20, the expenditure or value reduction was about EUR 700 million on the equity from the material services. In the previous year, there were no value reductions. And Part B of the question, the results from the sale of -- based on equity balanced participants from the financial results, and they are not result of the results from the materials interests participations. There were no amounts during the report in 2019. There was a EUR 2 million amount from the sale of the Europe GmbH segment from Industrial Solutions, and that was shown within on the appropriate item in the sheet. In the report, Thyssenkrupp says there is a detailed financial result, including an increase in the financial expenditure. What was the level during the report year compared with the previous year? The profits was the -- what were the exchange losses in '19/'20 minus EUR 700 million, previous EUR 266 million and the results from the derivates willing to finance '19/'20, EUR 411 million, previously EUR 342 million. The expenditures from derivates the result is '19/'20 minus EUR 432 million, previous year EUR 362 million. 13th question. On Page 33 of the report, there are details provided for the profit and loss? Other details? So on the question, what is in terms of millions, the results for personal expenditure salaries and social expenses, net pension provisions and promise contributions and free and early withdrawal? And what are the figures relating to the activities? The results, salaries EUR 5,000 million, the previous year EUR 300 million less -- EUR 330 million less. In the previous year, it was EUR 996 million. See net pension provisions EUR 187 million, EUR 168 million. Net pension EUR 19 million during the report year, previous EUR 14 million. And settlements the previous year at EUR 470 million. Expenditure for support EUR 80 million, previous year of EUR 84 million. During the report year, the number of staff on average during the course of the year for extended headcount was 106,000, previous 108,000. The 14th question. This group prefers, on Slide 12, special items. The special items without elevator at EUR 551 million. And for separations for early retirements, Thyssenkrupp spent EUR 540 million for million EUR and see also other pages of the annual report. What is the level in the report expended for separation payments and with respect to continued activities? The answer, to report the expenditure for separations for the special effects during recession EUR 550 million with respect to the continued activities.
Unknown Executive
executiveThank you, Mr. Keysberg for that. Those are the last questions and answers. We now -- we have now provided answers to all questions received. I think the last questions show the depth of the questions asked. And we had responded to all questions received on time. So this is the end of the Q&A session. I'd like to thank you all persons involved in the questions and answers and for the questions asked and also for the members for their answers given and the persons who have contributed to the answers during the course of the last few days. Ladies and gentlemen, we are now -- once I have given you results of the votes, we would now come through the end of the voting period. And after -- and it will no longer be possible to use the -- to make votes on the Internet. So anyone who wishes to make a vote still or exchange the vote, they should now become active via the Internet portal and also provide instructions to their proxies, if they so wish to do. The determination of the results will be based on the additive method and in which case, Yes and No votes will be counted. Abstentions will not affect the result, and they will not be counted specifically. The instructed proxies of the company and the postal votes will be evaluated. With respect to agenda Point 1, no vote is to take place. For those requiring a resolution, agendas to 2 to 4 and 6 to 8, a simple majority of votes cast will apply for the amendments in agenda Point 5, there will be a qualified majority required or at least 3 quarters of the company capital required. Ladies and gentlemen, prior to ending the voting. I would like to give you the current -- the votes represented 71% of all votes of capital -- registered capital is represented. And another 7 million votes are -- have been voted for by mail. That is 1.4% of the registered corporate capital, and that means 450 million votes are represented in the AGM. That is 72% of the registered capital. I would also like to inform you that the live transmission of the AGM has 4,000-plus participants. So the -- so I'd like to thank you all for taking part and also to express our thanks for your interest shown in the company. Ladies and gentlemen, we're now moving on to the resolution of agenda points 2 to 8. Based on the current legal situation, it was not possible to make opposing applications. The administration -- the management would say that the proposals made with respect to agendas 2 and 3 have been taken into account, but the management recommends that one goes with the recommends of the management. The proposals made by the Executive and the Supervisory Board are in accordance with the invitation made in the Federal Gazette on 22 December 2020. They will not be read again now. I would now interrupt the AGM for 5 minutes and then close the voting via the Internet investor portal. During this interruption, you have the final opportunity to use the investor portal to exercise your voting rights. After the end of the interruption, this will no longer be possible. So my watch says 14:15, and we are now going to interrupt the AGM for 5 minutes.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeThe past year was a challenging one. And at the same time, a decisive year for Thyssenkrupp. February, Thyssenkrupp Materials Services breaks ground in Rotenburg for the construction of its new state-of-the-art logistics center. Components for submarines from the 3D printer go into series production. Thyssenkrupp to sell elevator business to consortium of bidders led by Advent International and Cinven. March. Thyssenkrupp Plant technology to build first industrial cement plant with activated clay technology in Cameroon to reduce annual CO2 emissions by 120 tonnes. Thyssenkrupp's theory disagreement with IG Metal on the implementation of its steel strategy. June. Together, E.ON and Thyssenkrupp chemical and process technologies are bringing hydrogen plants to the electricity market. Thyssenkrupp chemical and process technologies is expanding production capacities for water electrolysis on a gigawatt scale. Thyssenkrupp Marine System presents new modular underwater vehicle for civilian use. MUM project to set new standard for unmanned underwater operations. July. Industrial gas giant, Air Product and Thyssenkrupp agree on an exclusive strategic partnership for the production of green hydrogen. Completion of the sale of the elevator business to a consortium of bidders led by Advent international and Cinven. August. Thyssenkrupp Schulte set standards in digital transformation. Digital solutions are continuously developed based on individual customer needs. Blast furnace 2.0. Thyssenkrupp presents innovative concept for green transformation of its 2-spoke steel mill. Jacob Bek, part of Thyssenkrupp Schulte, received a supplier award from John Deere for its excellent performance in the areas of delivery performance, product quality and cost management. September. Thyssenkrupp is building the second bioplastics plant in China. The plant is to produce 30,000 metric tons of PLA per year. The compostable bioplastic is produced from 100% renewable biomass. Thyssenkrupp automotive systems opens new axle assembly plant in Leipzig, Germany. October. The project, Carbon2Chem, receives funding approval for its second phase. The technology is used to recycle CO2 emissions. November. Thyssenkrupp Materials Services and Thyssenkrupp Steel put innovative SIP blast furnace technology into operation. The process increases the efficiency of the furnace and reduces costs. Thyssenkrupp automotive technology develops Presta Sequential SlideCam, an innovation in valve operation. The new system controls the slide cams of several cylinders sequentially using just one actuator. Thyssenkrupp Forged Technology launches new line of undercarriage components aiming at the strong growth potential in the aftermarket for industry components. December. STEAG and Thyssenkrupp are planning a joint feasibility study. It will focus on the construction of the Thyssenkrupp water electrolysis plant at the STEAG site in Duisburg . Nonprofit organization, CDP, honors Thyssenkrupp as a leader in climate protection for the first time in a row. January. Thyssenkrupp Rothe Erde is investing in an additional line for the production of blade bearings in India. These are used mainly in wind turbines. First green hydrogen project becomes reality. Thyssenkrupp installs 88-megawatt water electrolysis plant for Hydro-Québec in Canada. Thyssenkrupp Rothe Erde is expanding its production capacities for seamless rolled rings in China. These are key components in many machines and machine parts. CarValoo, the AI start-up of Thyssenkrupp Automotive Technology, is ramping up its cloud-based service and is successfully acquiring customers in car sharing, car rental and logistics. With self-learning algorithms, CarValoo detects even minor damages in real-time and provides fleet operators with seamless transparency on the condition of their vehicles. Over the past year, we have reached many important milestones and completed numerous projects. Nevertheless, there is still a lot to be done on the way to a high-performing group of companies.
Unknown Executive
executiveLadies and gentlemen, we are now continuing with the AGM. As stated before the interruption, you can no longer give instructions to your proxies. The proxies shall now add the -- shall now release the votes cast according to instructions to the system. That has now taken place. That means I will now terminate the vote. Those will now be counted and the results will now be determined under notarial supervision. Despite the use of efficient data processing systems, that will take some time. Please be patient. We've had that in the past, obviously. So as soon as I have the results of the vote, I will advise you accordingly. So let me now interrupt the AGM until the results of the votes are available. That will take around about 15 to 20 minutes. So 15 to 20 minutes, you have time off for the next 15 to 20 minutes.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeThyssenkrupp is an international group of companies with largely independent industrial and technology businesses. More than 104,000 employees in 60-countries are working to develop sustainable solutions and technologies for the future. As part of the strategic alignment, the group has divided itself into 6 segments. Thyssenkrupp Materials Services combines 2 strategic areas of activity, global materials trading and customized services. The product portfolio ranges from qualitative materials and raw materials to technical services and developments in the areas of automation, extended supply chain, warehouse and inventory management. In addition, the global logistics network ensures that all desired services, whether just-in-time or just-in-sequence, are integrated into the customers' manufacturing process. The 2 businesses, Bearings and Forged Technologies, are grouped under the name Industrial Components. The Bearings segment, better known as Thyssenkrupp Rothe Edre, is the world market leader in slewing bearings. The company specializes in the production of large-diameter bearings, rolling bearings and seamless rolled rings used in international industries. Thyssenkrupp Forged Technologies is a diversified supplier of components and system solutions for a wide range of different industry and markets. The segment produces crank shafts, connecting rods and front axles. It further manufactures under-carriage components under the Berco brand. Thyssenkrupp Automotive Technology is one of the leading suppliers and engineering partners in the international automotive industry. The product and service portfolio includes high-tech components and systems as well as automation solutions for vehicle manufacturing. Expertise along the entire value chain, cost efficiency and the global production network make Thyssenkrupp Automotive Technology a reliable partner for the technologies of tomorrow. Thyssenkrupp's Steel stands for innovation in the steel business and high-quality products for advanced and demanding applications. As a pioneer in climate transformation, Thyssenkrupp Steel had set itself the goal of producing 3 million metric tons of CO2-neutral steel per year from as early as 2030. By 2050, steel production aims to be completely climate-neutral. The segment, Thyssenkrupp Marine Systems, is one of the leading global system suppliers for submarines and naval vessels. The portfolio includes logistic services, supply of materials and components and other services from development to maintenance. Under the roof of the Multi Tracks segment, Thyssenkrupp brings together 10 businesses with specialized industry know-how and also contains the elevator reinvestment. Cement Technologies specializes in the design and construction of ready-to-use cement plants. Chemical and process technologies has unique technology expertise and decades of global expertise in chemical plant engineering for planning and construction to comprehensive services. The portfolio includes complete value chains for green hydrogen and sustainable chemicals. Mining Technologies offers a complete portfolio of machinery, systems, equipment and services for the mining, processing, storage and transportation of raw materials worldwide. Acciai Speciali Terni is one of the world's leading manufacturers of stainless steel flat products. Powertrain solution from system engineering has extensive expertise in the technical implementation of complex assembly lines for combustion engines and drive systems, battery solutions of system engineering, plans and designs production lines for the manufacture of lithium iron cells in round pouch or prismatic form, super caps, battery modules and battery systems. Springs & Stabilizers provides maximum ride comfort and safety with its springs and stabilizers. Infrastructure is a leading supplier in civil engineering, port construction, foundation engineering and structural engineering and sees itself as an integrated partner to the construction industry. Heavy Plate produces steel for shipbuilding and large-diameter pipe constructions as well as special steel grades for a wide range of applications. Carbon components develops and produces carbon rims for car and motorcycle manufacturers and supplies end customers in the motorcycle sector. The past year was a challenging one. And at the same time, a decisive year for Thyssenkrupp. February, Thyssenkrupp Materials Services breaks ground in Rotenburg for the construction of its new state-of-the-art logistics center. Components for submarines from the 3D printer go into series production. Thyssenkrupp to sell elevator business to consortium of bidders led by Advent International and Cinven. March. Thyssenkrupp Plant technology to build first industrial cement plant with activated clay technology in Cameroon to reduce annual CO2 emissions by 120 tonnes. Thyssenkrupp's theory disagreement with IG Metal on the implementation of its steel strategy. June. Together, E.ON and Thyssenkrupp chemical and process technologies are bringing hydrogen plants to the electricity market. Thyssenkrupp chemical and process technologies is expanding production capacities for water electrolysis on a gigawatt scale. Thyssenkrupp Marine System presents new modular underwater vehicle for civilian use. MUM project to set new standard for unmanned underwater operations. July. Industrial gas giant, Air Product and Thyssenkrupp agree on an exclusive strategic partnership for the production of green hydrogen. Completion of the sale of the elevator business to a consortium of bidders led by Advent international and Cinven. August. Thyssenkrupp Schulte set standards in digital transformation. Digital solutions are continuously developed based on individual customer needs. Blast furnace 2.0. Thyssenkrupp presents innovative concept for green transformation of its 2-spoke steel mill. Jacob Bek, part of Thyssenkrupp Schulte, received a supplier award from John Deere for its excellent performance in the areas of delivery performance, product quality and cost management. September. Thyssenkrupp is building the second bioplastics plant in China. The plant is to produce 30,000 metric tons of PLA per year. The compostable bioplastic is produced from 100% renewable biomass. Thyssenkrupp automotive systems opens new axle assembly plant in Leipzig, Germany. October. The project, Carbon2Chem, receives funding approval for its second phase. The technology is used to recycle CO2 emissions. November. Thyssenkrupp Materials Services and Thyssenkrupp Steel put innovative SIP blast furnace technology into operation. The process increases the efficiency of the furnace and reduces costs. Thyssenkrupp automotive technology develops Presta Sequential SlideCam, an innovation in valve operation. The new system controls the slide cams of several cylinders sequentially using just one actuator. Thyssenkrupp Forged Technology launches new line of undercarriage components aiming at the strong growth potential in the aftermarket for industry components. December. STEAG and Thyssenkrupp are planning a joint feasibility study. It will focus on the construction of the Thyssenkrupp water electrolysis plant at the STEAG site in Duisburg . Nonprofit organization, CDP, honors Thyssenkrupp as a leader in climate protection for the first time in a row. January. Thyssenkrupp Rothe Erde is investing in an additional line for the production of blade bearings in India. These are used mainly in wind turbines. First green hydrogen project becomes reality. Thyssenkrupp installs 88-megawatt water electrolysis plant for Hydro-Québec in Canada. Thyssenkrupp Rothe Erde is expanding its production capacities for seamless rolled rings in China. These are key components in many machines and machine parts. CarValoo, the AI start-up of Thyssenkrupp Automotive Technology, is ramping up its cloud-based service and is successfully acquiring customers in car sharing, car rental and logistics. With self-learning algorithms, CarValoo detects even minor damages in real-time and provides fleet operators with seamless transparency on the condition of their vehicles. Over the past year, we have reached many important milestones and completed numerous projects. Nevertheless, there is still a lot to be done on the way to a high-performing group of companies. Thyssenkrupp is an international group of companies with largely independent industrial and technology businesses. More than 104,000 employees in 60-countries are working to develop sustainable solutions and technologies for the future. As part of the strategic alignment, the group has divided itself into 6 segments. Thyssenkrupp Materials Services combines 2 strategic areas of activity, global materials trading and customized services. The product portfolio ranges from qualitative materials and raw materials to technical services and developments in the areas of automation, extended supply chain, warehouse and inventory management. In addition, the global logistics network ensures that all desired services, whether just-in-time or just-in-sequence, are integrated into the customers' manufacturing process. The 2 businesses, Bearings and Forged Technologies, are grouped under the name Industrial Components. The Bearings segment, better known as Thyssenkrupp Rothe Edre, is the world market leader in slewing bearings. The company specializes in the production of large-diameter bearings, rolling bearings and seamless rolled rings used in international industries. Thyssenkrupp Forged Technologies is a diversified supplier of components and system solutions for a wide range of different industry and markets. The segment produces crank shafts, connecting rods and front axles. It further manufactures under-carriage components under the Berco brand. Thyssenkrupp Automotive Technology is one of the leading suppliers and engineering partners in the international automotive industry. The product and service portfolio includes high-tech components and systems as well as automation solutions for vehicle manufacturing. Expertise along the entire value chain, cost efficiency and the global production network make Thyssenkrupp Automotive Technology a reliable partner for the technologies of tomorrow. Thyssenkrupp's Steel stands for innovation in the steel business and high-quality products for advanced and demanding applications. As a pioneer in climate transformation, Thyssenkrupp Steel had set itself the goal of producing 3 million metric tons of CO2-neutral steel per year from as early as 2030. By 2050, steel production aims to be completely climate-neutral. The segment, Thyssenkrupp Marine Systems, is one of the leading global system suppliers for submarines and naval vessels. The portfolio includes logistic services, supply of materials and components and other services from development to maintenance. Under the roof of the Multi Tracks segment, Thyssenkrupp brings together 10 businesses with specialized industry know-how and also contains the elevator reinvestment. Cement Technologies specializes in the design and construction of ready-to-use cement plants. Chemical and process technologies has unique technology expertise and decades of global expertise in chemical plant engineering for planning and construction to comprehensive services. The portfolio includes complete value chains for green hydrogen and sustainable chemicals. Mining Technologies offers a complete portfolio of machinery, systems, equipment and services for the mining, processing, storage and transportation of raw materials worldwide. Acciai Speciali Terni is one of the world's leading manufacturers of stainless steel flat products. Powertrain solution from system engineering has extensive expertise in the technical implementation of complex assembly lines for combustion engines and drive systems, battery solutions of system engineering, plans and designs production lines for the manufacture of lithium iron cells in round pouch or prismatic form, super caps, battery modules and battery systems. Springs & Stabilizers provides maximum ride comfort and safety with its springs and stabilizers. Infrastructure is a leading supplier in civil engineering, port construction, foundation engineering and structural engineering and sees itself as an integrated partner to the construction industry. Heavy Plate produces steel for shipbuilding and large-diameter pipe constructions as well as special steel grades for a wide range of applications. Carbon components develops and produces carbon rims for car and motorcycle manufacturers and supplies end customers in the motorcycle sector.
Klaus Keysberg
executiveLadies and gentlemen, we are now continuing with the AGM with the announcement of the voting results on agenda points 2 to 8. The results will also be displayed on the screen. On top of that, they will be made available to the public on the company's website after the AGM. I would also like to point out that the AGM will be closed shortly after the adoption of the resolution. This will also mean no longer possible to file objections to the results of the AGM. I'll now read the results for the voting results for the items on the agenda and also determine the decisions taken. I will now start with agenda item 2, the ratification of the acts of the members of the Executive Board. During the votes for 447,943,355 votes cast. That is 71.96% of the share capital. The proposals for the ratification of the members of the Executive Board for 2019/'20 was passed with 446,308,904 Yes votes and over 1,634,451 No votes, and therefore, 99.64% of the votes were Yes votes and therefore, accepted. That means all members of the Executive Board have been discharged with the appropriate majority. Now Point 3, the ratification of the acts of the members of the Supervisory Board. 446,242,757 valid votes were cast. That represents 71.68% of the share capital. The proposals for discharge of the members of the Supervisory Board for 2019/2020 was passed by 424,889,681 Yes votes versus 21,353,076 No votes. So 95.9% were cast to accept the resolution. That means all members of the Supervisory Board are discharged by the AGM for fiscal year '19/'20. Point 4, on the resolution on the election of auditors for the parent company and consolidated annual financial statements and the auditor's review of interim financial reports, 450,151,303 votes were cast, which represents 72.31% of the share capital. The represent -- the PwC as auditors was agreed with 449,902,782 Yes votes versus 248,521 No votes, and therefore agrees with 99.94% of the votes. So has necessary majority. So PwC is appointed as the auditor for the parent company, consolidated annual financial statements and the auditor's review of interim financial reports for the year '21/'22. Now item Point 5. Resolution on the amendment of Article-9, Sentence-3 of the Articles of Association. In this case, 450,245,696 votes were cast. This represents 72.32% of the share capital. The proposal of the deletion of Sentence-3 of Article 9 of the Articles of Association was -- received 449,987,423 Yes votes, and therefore, was passed with 99.94% of the votes. So it has the required qualified majority. This is now Point 6. Election of a new member of the Supervisory Board. In the vote on agenda Item 6, valid votes were cast. 450,248,876 valid votes cast, which represents 72.33% of the share capital. Dr. Volpert was elected with -- versus 735,433 votes. She said that she would accept the position if the vote goes accordingly, and we here with -- hope she has all success in her future activities. This is now agenda Point 7. Resolution on the approval of the remuneration system for the members of the management Board. In the vote and agenda Point 7, 449,824,645 valid votes were cast, which is 72.26% of the share capital. The proposed furtherance of the compensation system was passed with 434,976,021 Yes votes versus 14,845,624 No votes and therefore -- which represents 96.7% votes in favor and so it's approved. And now the results for agenda Point 8. Resolution on the approval of the remuneration of the members of the Supervisory Board. In this vote, 448,358,570 valid votes were cast, which represents 72.02% of the share capital. The confirmation of the remuneration of supervised members proposed by the management Board was passed by 447,054,674 Yes votes versus 1,303,896 No votes, which represents 99.71% of the votes cast were in favor. Therefore, the proposals of the management on all agenda items have been accepted with the required majorities. The countermotions have, therefore, been dealt with. Ladies and gentlemen, we are now in the closing phase of our AGM. We'd like to thank you all for taking part and the unusual circumstances of this AGM. I would like to thank the Board of Management and all employees who participated in the preparation and implementation of this AGM. The next AGM of the Thyssenkrupp AG is planned to take place on February 4, 2022. And then I hope that the circumstances are different and that it can take place as has usually been the case. I, therefore, declare today's 22nd AGM of the Thyssenkrupp AG as closed. Let me all -- wish you all the best, and please stay safe and stay healthy.
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