TransUnion (TRU) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

June 3, 2021

New York Stock Exchange US Industrials Professional Services conference_presentation 29 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Andrew Nicholas

analyst
#1

Hello, and good morning. My name is Andrew Nicholas. I'm the research analyst covering the information services, consulting and HR technology sectors here at William Blair. Before getting started, I'm required to inform you that for a complete list of research disclosures or potential conflicts of interest, please visit our website at williamblair.com. With that out of the way, I'm very pleased to welcome the management team of TransUnion to the 41st Annual Growth Stock Conference. With us today, we have CEO, Christopher Cartwright; and CFO, Todd Cello. Thank you to each of you for joining me.

Christopher Cartwright

executive
#2

It's a pleasure to be back, Andrew.

Andrew Nicholas

analyst
#3

Excited to have you. So let's just get right into it. I thought one way to kind of set the stage for the rest of the conversation, would just kind of be to talk about how the business has navigated the pandemic, how the last 12-plus months have gone? And maybe speak to some of the major learnings or takeaways from that time frame, whether it's in terms of new product opportunities or customer demand dynamics or even on the cost side, whichever you think are the areas that are most important to the go-forward story?

Christopher Cartwright

executive
#4

Yes. Fair enough. And we may tag team on some of these questions. But boy, what a year, what a 15-month period it's been. We feel incredibly fortunate. I think our business model as an industry proved to be durable. And our company performance was solid. If you remember, we had a really strong Q1 of '20, we were about 11% organic year-over-year, and that included the fact that the last 2 weeks of that quarter fell off a lot. But look, Q2 of '20 was an entirely unprecedented situation for us, and we hunkered down and reduced some costs and waited to see exactly what the impact of the pandemic is going to be. But fairly early, we realized that there were some very important needs the clients had around assessing the risk in their portfolios, assessing the risk of our outstanding loans. And we port ourselves in to meeting those needs. So market demand shifted pretty quickly during that second quarter from customer acquisition to risk mitigation. And the CARES Act was passed pretty quickly. The industry had to digest how to accurately report on the status of various consumers. We developed a lot of new attributes that yielded insights into the consumer's current conditions during that second quarter and thereafter, and those prove to be very helpful for clients, right? And so despite the fact that we went from a marketing-intensive environment to a risk management one, we really had kind of dollar-for-dollar offset in terms of new sales over the course of '20. And as we know now, we had nice improvement in the third quarter, nice improvement in the fourth quarter and ended up growing about 2% and for the full year. I think most importantly, though, once we were confident in our foundation in probably the middle of the second quarter, we made a decision to invest in the business. And we'd already been investing, and we used it as an opportunity to accelerate, if you will. So we put more dollars into our most attractive organic growth opportunities. We also bought some businesses in the digital marketing realm that brought needed capabilities to our emerging position. And we implemented some organizational changes that are going to help us manage with more global intent, whereas previously, I'd say we were more kind of a multi-domestic model. And look, all of those things are bearing fruit and all of those things are continuing this year and going forward as we just continue to evolve from our current very strong platform. Now in terms of kind of strengths and weaknesses or changes in market demand that we kind of experienced. Todd, why don't you jump in on that one?

Todd Cello

executive
#5

Yes. Sure. So thank you, Chris, and Andrew. Yes, as far as just the different strengths and weaknesses that we've experienced as many are already aware, TransUnion has a very sizable position with the fintechs. And that was a very popular question. Andrew, you probably would have asked us is like, hey, how are the fintechs going to weather the storm, so to speak. And I think what we saw, we definitely didn't anticipate pandemic happening, but we saw the resiliency of those -- of that business model, in particular, so and in addition to it, as they branched out into newer areas and capabilities, for example, in the buy now pay later space. We were there to serve those customers. Interestingly enough, both in the U.S. but also internationally as well to, in particular, in the U.K. So that was definitely an area of strength for us throughout last year, but more importantly, as we go forward. The other areas that I'd highlight as well is with commerce moving so digitally last year as we were at home. The use cases for our products in fraud as an example, really just continued to explode for us globally here in the U.S., but also, again, in our international locations. We developed new capabilities to help our customers onboard new accounts last year using the capability of a smartphone. So a lot of really great innovation came out of this as well. And the last area I'd highlight, and Chris alluded to this already, but we made a couple of acquisitions in the digital marketing space last year, which was a strategy that we were already on, but we accelerated it last year. So again, if you think about the dynamics of a more digital economy, being able to serve our customers by providing them better information on who to market to and how to get the best success. We feel that we've positioned TransUnion quite well in the pandemic, but as we're starting to hopefully exit it right now to be able to offer our customers just better tools to help with marketing. So definitely a growth driver for us as we go forward.

Andrew Nicholas

analyst
#6

Sure, sure. No, that's really helpful. Maybe one thing I wanted to dive in a little bit further is kind of the international businesses and maybe how their reaction has compared to that, that we've seen in the U.S. And so maybe to start, is there anything that's going on in the past 12, 15 months internationally that maybe accelerates the traditional TransUnion growth playbook in those markets? I guess I'm curious if kind of a more rapidly evolving environment, particularly around consumer credit has opened any regions up more to more detail or more involved client relationships or maybe openness to other forms of alternative data that hadn't been as relevant to them in the past? Or any thoughts there would be great.

Christopher Cartwright

executive
#7

Yes. I mean, I think the factors that are influencing markets are fairly consistent around the world. Todd just talked about the tremendous growth in e-commerce during the pandemic. We certainly saw that in all markets globally, became a real economic life blood we couldn't get out and circulate, particularly in a lot of countries where they don't necessarily have the digital penetration, and they rely more on in-person transactions. It took a little while, but then you saw a pretty rapid increase. And so again, that means one of the things we're good at the core is identifying and authenticating consumers online. And we can do that based on all that we know about them, we can also do that based on recognizing digital identifiers, if you will, device characteristics, e-mails and all of that stuff. And knowing who you're dealing with precisely in e-commerce, making that trust possible, if you will, is a great facilitator of commerce, and it's in high demand. So I think you saw an a quantum leap, a quantum increase, if you will, in demand for e-commerce risk mitigation and digital marketing, targeting solutions. And those are both 2 areas of high growth that we've been focused on. I think the other thing is the pandemic accelerated the adoption of some of our more current and comprehensive information products, right? So over time, CreditVision will become a standard across markets and across segments. And certainly, CreditVision Link, which is the trended data plus various flavors of alternative data. But because assessing risk became so critical, businesses acted fast and it shortened the adoption cycle, which is a nice structural benefit that's going forward. Businesses also scrambled and looked for efficiencies. And one of the reasons you're seeing really nice growth in our insurance business in the first part of this year is a lot of carriers begin using our traffic violations data as a substitute for the traditional motor vehicle reports that they could get from the state level. And again, typically, these institutions would have a slow, measured approach to transitioning, lots of analysis, lots of double checking. In this case, because of the financial pressures, they just brought more focus and resource and did it quicker.

Andrew Nicholas

analyst
#8

Yes. That's an interesting point. I think, obviously, constructive for the go-forward outlook. Maybe kind of focusing back on U.S. specifically. This is a growth conference, so I do want to spend some time just kind of walking through the bigger growth opportunities for TransUnion. There are a handful. So I don't know that we'll get to each of them. But the first one that I wanted to touch on was the gaming market. I think you announced your plans to enter the U.S. gaming market officially a little while ago. You touched on kind of your strengths in the identification market as being important to building that type of solution. So I guess my first question would be to maybe speak to that opportunity a little bit more why it makes sense for TransUnion to compete there. And maybe touch on what specifically TransUnion can do that is a differentiator relative to maybe some of the incumbents in this space?

Christopher Cartwright

executive
#9

Yes. So I think the most important point to take away from our entry into gaming and gambling is that we continue to apply the playbook. And the first principle in the playbook is to bring knowledge and focus to targeted sets of end users, specific verticals and sub verticals. And in this case, it's gaming and gambling. And typically, we'll identify a space where we think there's substantial opportunity to bring credit and identity and risk management insights. And then we'll bring in people who actually worked in that industry and understand the wants and needs in the analytic applications that are in place, and we'll start rounding out our product line to serve them. Now in this case, we've got a proven vertical in the U.K. We have a lot of know-how. And as the legislative and regulatory environment in the U.S. became accommodating of gambling, we're importing that into the U.S. and that really reflects another principle of the playbook. We want good ideas to flow across borders, right? And we do a pretty good job. And increasingly -- an increasingly important area of focus is just this global approach to operating the business. And that's not just a technology platform that can be built once and used across our markets, but it's through the organization, institutionalizing the sharing of IP, knowledge around markets, knowledge about how to compete and win, knowledge around the next attractive vertical to expand it to. I mean, look, we're excited about gaming and gambling. We can do a lot to authenticate gamblers when they come to sites to ensure that they're an appropriate age. It's even possible in the U.K. or in the U.S., we may be doing some type of gambling affordability measures in the future if regulators -- they're talking about that. They haven't affected it yet. But again, it doesn't change the overall TransUnion financial picture. It's just another contributor to our ongoing pursuit of high single-digit organic growth.

Andrew Nicholas

analyst
#10

Sure. And maybe recognizing that the stable growth opportunities is what's most important. Is there -- specifically to gaming, is -- because you have a prior business or an existing business in the U.K., is it feasible to think that the ramp here in the U.S. is faster than maybe some of the other kind of newer growth initiatives, like maybe quicker to contribute?

Christopher Cartwright

executive
#11

Sure.

Andrew Nicholas

analyst
#12

Okay. And is there any major differences between those markets that would kind of impact your approach? Or is it pretty uniform across those 2 regions?

Christopher Cartwright

executive
#13

Look, I think it's fairly uniform, although gambling in the U.K. is far more developed as it is here, but we can import the lessons and the needs require our core identification and verification capabilities. But really, it's part of a broader story around facilitating digital commerce by bringing certainty around who you're dealing with and mitigating fraud and also making it super easy to onboard a customer, right? So you're going to have these new gaming and gambling sites or you may have new fintech players emerging. And you want to be -- you want to digitally onboard the customer with the least amount of friction. So after you identify and verify, you want to pre-fill the information that you have on them. You want to check for prior instances of fraud. Credit information in some of these transactions or rather some of these use cases is going to be relevant. And so we've been bundling these capabilities up and then delivering them to market as part of a digital onboarding package, if you will, that applies to insurers, to lenders, even to some of the government programs that we administrate in the U.S. and the U.K.

Andrew Nicholas

analyst
#14

Absolutely. Yes. And maybe to kind of follow-up on that, I think you've talked in a lot of different instances indirectly about fraud and even in your last answer. So maybe help investors and me better understand what the competitive landscape looks like there. And my understanding is it's a market that's growing really fast. So it's not even necessarily one where you need to be adding share. But is this a place where you can add share-based on competitive differentiation? Or is it enough to kind of just keep building out the platform, given the assets you already have and ride the wave, if you will?

Christopher Cartwright

executive
#15

Well, you're right, it's a very growthful market. And like we just commented, the penetration of e-commerce doubled or tripled around the world during the pandemic, but also the incidence of fraud, online fraud is going to increase in proportion to that and fraudsters are smart and aggressive. And I think we see that every week, when you open the paper, there's some other issue around a ransomware attack or whatever it may be. So look, we expect this business is going to grow a lot. If it's not our second largest area. It's on a path to be that. And we're happy to ride the wave, but we also think that by pulling together into a single application and kind of an integrated stack, the various capabilities that we have around the world that we've built organically, but also through acquisitions of players like iovation, we're going to build something that's differentiated and something that can compete with any player in the market. So we're very focused now on integrating our organizations under the single fraud business umbrella, which we have. And starting under the hood to do really meaningful engineering integration where today, just given the acquisitions and the way the product line developed, we've got smart engineers working on similar capabilities for different markets around the world. We don't need to do that. We can do it once and share it and free up that talent to work on a very deep pipeline of innovation that we face, right? So we want to get that right. And then we'll continue to be active in M&A because there's always important new capabilities to mitigate fraud that are emerging. We may take a minority investment in a player initially and prove that we can commercialize that capability or partner on a path to acquisition in the future.

Andrew Nicholas

analyst
#16

Great. Great. Yes. And that ticks off or at least gets to my follow-up on that, which was going to be on M&A and capital allocation prioritization. It sounds like fraud would be one area for tuck-ins. But maybe, Todd, if you could kind of speak to how you're thinking about not only M&A and target areas, but also just prioritizing investment spend broadly for the organization because it does seem like there's a lot of different places to put the capital that are going to generate a sizable return. So if you could kind of talk about the framework there and maybe prioritization broadly.

Todd Cello

executive
#17

For sure, Andrew. Yes. So I think the #1 priority for us, as it has been for several years, is to continue to invest in the organic opportunities that we have already in-house. So whether that's incremental operating expense or capital expenditures, we continue to invest heavily in bringing those next generation of products to market to enable us to sustain an attractive top line growth record in the future. So that I would say is #1 for us. But as Chris just alluded to, M&A is an important part of our overall strategy when we think about growth for the future. And just as a way to think about it, the track record that TransUnion has and M&A is very strong. If I were to go back probably to about 2012, so pre-IPO days, we have derived significant growth but I think equally as important portfolio diversification through our M&A strategy. And with that all being said, we also feel that we have meaningful capacity right now to execute on potential transactions. And just if you assume that we use all cash and debt for deals with our leverage ratio at 2.7x at the end of the first quarter, we're meaningfully under the 3.5x target leverage ratio that we've spoken about publicly. So we definitely feel like we have the firepower there. We continue to look at potential transactions across 3 main areas. The first being data assets, we're always looking for that fuller, more comprehensive perspective of the consumer. We're also looking for ways to enhance the capabilities for our existing businesses. And then we're also looking at new markets internationally or just adjacencies to our core. So gaming is a good example of that to the previous discussion. I could tell you right now, our corporate development team is as busy as they probably have ever been assessing potential opportunities. And what they're looking at is very aligned to the areas of focus that I just spoke about. So there's going to be no surprises when you hear us execute on a potential transaction in the future. But with that being said, and with the capacity that we have on the balance sheet, I want to assure everyone that we're not just going to do a deal to do a deal. We have a very robust process to assess opportunities. But to also ensure that when we structure deals, we do it in a way that we're making certain that TransUnion appropriately pays for future growth expectations of any particular business. So that's what we're in the midst of. There's a lot of exciting things right now that we're looking at that we believe will be differentiators for us in the future.

Andrew Nicholas

analyst
#18

Great. Great. And then from an organic perspective, besides the growth opportunities we've talked about, there's obviously the investment in technology companies across the info services space are undergoing kind of transformations of varying degrees. Project Rise, I think, would certainly fall into that camp. So for those that aren't familiar, I was hoping you could kind of speak to a higher level to what Project Rise is setting up to accomplish? What exactly it enables in terms of operational success and competitive differentiation? Then to the extent that you'd expect benefits from the spend to be concentrated in any one area or region, that would be helpful color as well.

Christopher Cartwright

executive
#19

Yes. Look, I'm happy to add that color. I don't know that we can speak to how the benefits are going to flow to a particular region that's probably a little too precise at this point. But Project Rise is part of, I'd say, our ongoing technology evolution to go -- first to become a good company, a technology to become a great one. And a lot of people will look at it and say, "Oh, you're just migrating your stuff to the cloud." And that is true. We are going to adopt kind of a hybrid approach, probably 2/3 of our applications will end up in the cloud, but we will maintain our own data centers for certain workloads, if you will. But think of what we're doing in 3 buckets: one, migrating applications to the cloud to benefit from all of the automation, the cloud service providers have brought to data center management, right? Secondly, we're reviewing and reducing application sprawl across our portfolio of 30-plus countries. And what happened to the business like ours, that's developed over the past 40-plus years, you expand 1 country at a time and you tend to comb the tech stack, ship it over there and the new engineers work on it based on local needs. And so you just end up with a tremendous amount of redundancy in difference that doesn't add a lot of value to customers at the end of the day. So we are rationalizing all of that, right? And we're moving to global configurable platforms that can be deployed throughout our cloud partnerships in either a central or local data centers depending on privacy, privacy regulations, that's going to save costs, but I think even more importantly, free up our engineering talent to work on very deep pipeline of demand. The other thing we're doing is building out a standard reusable software development foundation in the cloud and also services and microservices for more rapidly developing software applications. And it is an overall kind of reengineering, retooling and in some ways, relocation of our software engineering capabilities that's going to position us -- it's a generational shift for us that's going to provide years of growth and increasing competitiveness for TransUnion.

Andrew Nicholas

analyst
#20

Great. I'm looking at the clock, we've got a few more minutes here. I do want to squeeze one more in. I've gotten a handful of questions on this, this morning, so I do want to ask it to you. Question is around kind of the Biden administration's plan for a public credit bureau and how that would impact you. Any real thoughts there about the likelihood or the downstream impact to the bureaus?

Christopher Cartwright

executive
#21

Sure. Yes. Look, I expect that we will have increasing and deeper involvement with the Biden administration and the CFPB, given their policy objectives. The notion of a public credit registry is not new. And I don't think that the probability of one being realized in the U.S. has materially changed. I do expect robust engagement from Congress in the CFPB around the accuracy of our data and the effectiveness of our support for consumers. And we embrace that. I mean we are entirely goal aligned and look forward to having kind of fact-based and constructive sessions to discuss how we can collaborate to achieve better outcomes for consumers in this country. That said, the other thing that I think is really optimistic is, across the political spectrum, I believe there's an agreement that more data and alternative data is beneficial for individual consumers and society. There are a lot of people out there who have consistently made rent payments for years, and they should get credit for that behavior toward getting a mortgage to own a home. And that's true, utilities or wireless telecommunication services or a variety of other financial obligations that a lot of consumers that today don't participate in mainstream credit should be able to, based on their records. And so I'm hopeful that this government will bring about some changes that allow us to acquire that data at scale, so we can use it for consumers' benefits as they're seeking well-priced financial support.

Andrew Nicholas

analyst
#22

Makes a ton of sense. Makes a ton of sense. It looks like we're out of time. Thank you, Chris. Thank you, Todd for spending some time with me this morning. Thank you to everyone on the webcast for joining, and have a great rest of the day.

Christopher Cartwright

executive
#23

Thanks, Andrew. All the pleasure. See you.

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