Tyson Foods, Inc. (TSN) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 4, 2025
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Benjamin Theurer
analystAll right. Well, good morning, and thank you very much for joining us. Next on stage, pleased to introduce Tyson Foods, one of the world's largest protein producers across all major proteins, chicken, pork, beef and the company also operates a very sizable Prepared Foods business. With us today, we got Curt Calaway, company's CFO; as well as Devin Cole, recently named Chief Operating Officer.
Benjamin Theurer
analystAnd with that, I'd like to kick it off actually over to you, Devin. I mean, recently, just a few days ago, you got a little promotion up to Chief Operating Officer. So really, the first question is, with that more expanded role versus what you previously oversaw, what are like the key priorities you are tasked to look at for the next couple of quarters?
Devin Cole
executiveYes, sure. Thank you. Thanks for the question. Listen, I should first start by saying how grateful I am for the opportunity. We have a very robust succession mechanism in place at our company. And so this is thankfully not as a complete surprise to me or others and this will give me an opportunity to have a bit more visibility directly with all of our company. I certainly been involved with our Prepared Foods and our Poultry business over the years and was actually part of Tyson back when we did the IBP acquisition in early 2000s. So I've been around the beef and pork business a good bit. But to answer your question, listen, I think like as anybody should probably say in a new role, my first priority is to do no harm. We have exceptional talent at all levels of the organization, all the group presidents, all of the finance talent that we have. What I will always insist on in any organization is to make sure that we have great alignment, great clarity and great communication. And I think with this new role, that will only allow us to elevate that a bit to make sure that we're seeing across all of the proteins globally, quite honestly, with our international business as well, making sure that we have visibility to have best practices in place and to take advantage of any opportunity that we see anywhere that we have the ability to do business. So as I will be very inquisitive over the coming weeks and months, I don't see any major changes to our business because, thankfully, we're in a very good spot. And the thing that I'll assure our team members as well as our stakeholders is that we will do nothing but accelerate the momentum that we already have and that I am very fortunate to inherit.
Benjamin Theurer
analystOkay. Good stuff. Now obviously, one of the bigger themes here at the conference has all been talking about consumer health, and we've seen a lot of like discussions about like just cautious sentiment spending somewhat under pressure. So if you look at the different major protein categories within your portfolio, what have you seen in terms of like consumer behavior here? And how do you feel overall increased priority for protein consumption has helped you short term, but also will continue to be a driver long term?
Devin Cole
executiveYes, sure. It has been widely reported. We are dealing with a cautious consumer, and that's not really new news. It's just a continuation of what we've been seeing. Customers, definitely, we see restaurant traffic counts being down and more of a pivot to a bit more retail shopping and probably a bit more frequent retail shopping with a lower ring size per occurrence. And so we're aware of all those things. I think the great news for us as a company is that, as you mentioned, protein is winning for a variety of reasons. And also protein, particularly animal protein, is seen as an essential part of people's diets more so now than ever. And so what we are seeing even at Foodservice, particularly with our Chicken portfolio is because of the value relative to the other proteins and innovation and the great partners that we have at Foodservice, we are seeing that value-added business grow. Thankfully, even with traffic counts being down. So that's great news for us. And then as you look at our retail business, I mean, we have an exceptional innovation pipeline across every place that we do business. And we talk a lot about value-added. And I want to make sure people understand that that's not just a term that we refer to for, say, partially cooked or fully cooked, which is a big part of convenience. But even in our fresh chicken, right, we see an opportunity throughout that category to provide better opportunities for people, maybe it's pack size, maybe it's the packaging itself, maybe it's the attributes that we offer even in fresh chicken. Our deli business is growing certainly as consumers want to have a restaurant quality experience even at home. And luckily, we have the expertise to know how to make those products where they're easily reconstituted, whether that be in an air fryer, an oven, a microwave, however people want to utilize those pieces of equipment. We understand that, and we're creating products for them. We also have across all of our branded portfolio, particularly in Prepared Foods, we have a great innovation with breakfast with Jimmy Dean items. We have great innovation with Hillshire Farms, both in lunch meat as well as snacking occasions. And then, of course, with our chicken offerings. I think we had 20-plus innovation items in our retail chicken this past year. We talked a lot about accelerated marketing spend. And that's not just in trade and marketing, although that's a piece of it. We also have spent a tremendous amount of money making sure we have the right quality products, making sure we have the right packaging, making sure that not only that, but we understand where that consumer is going. And when we do spend those trade dollars, we have better visibility than ever to make sure that we're spending them in the right way. It is driving the right behavior and that we're getting a returns on that.
Benjamin Theurer
analystOkay. I mean along the line of these like focused spending, et cetera, you've done a lot of production improvements over the last couple of years. Anything that's still pending? I mean we've seen a few things, obviously, in chicken that clearly has started to pay off more recently. I think you've done a few things within pork. So what is it you're currently reviewing from an operations side where you see opportunities to potentially further improve?
Devin Cole
executiveYes. I think what we're always mindful of and what will really create consistency in this business over a very long-time horizon is what we control. Certainly, there are inputs relative to that particular part of our business that we are mindful of. We don't see anything on the horizon there that would be disruptive. And even in the most recent quarter, if you look at what we -- what our results were really driven by, it was our own operational excellence, and it was also making sure that we have the right innovation. So the way I think about that business is we've done some work with our footprint. We feel like we're in a very good place in terms of not only the footprint that we have, but the capacity that we have within that footprint. And so if you think about today's construction cost, for example, obviously, we want to utilize the post or the prior investments that we've made to the utmost before we go out and spend incremental CapEx. So it's made us better, I think, investors of our capital. But it's also given us a real insight into how good these facilities can be. And I think that we're running the best operational piece of our business that I've ever seen. But I would also tell you, we're not sitting still. It's like anything else. Everyone is improving constantly, and we recognize our leadership position. We also recognize that it only matters if we are continually getting better, and we are doing that. So I look at all of our businesses, quite frankly, with the same lens, whether that be international, whether that beef, pork or prepared foods or chicken, what has really driven the results is our high level of execution and having visibility into how we get better from here.
Benjamin Theurer
analystI mean, clearly, chicken is currently kind of like the bright spot within the commodity piece for you. I remember you talked about like certain investments up to $100 million, if I remember right, in the chicken business for the second fiscal half. But you still, after third fiscal quarter kind of like upped your outlook here for operating income. How are these investments coming together? Is that still on track? And is that something as we move into next year, you probably don't have that, assuming margins stay where they are, there's additional upside from where you are right now?
Devin Cole
executiveYes. So we are still on track. We will, of course, wrap up here in the next few weeks, our Q4, and we'll fully have exercised our commitment against those marketing dollars, the spend dollars. And we've already set our planning in motion for FY '26 and what I would tell you is, again, going back to the visibility that we have, the analytics, the team that we have in place, the data, how we're talking to these consumers today in a new way, it's one more -- way more efficient than it's ever been in terms of our marketing dollars. But just the visibility and the partnership that we have with our customers tells us that we are on the right track, and we see no reason to change that trajectory based on the results that we are seeing, and we will have the same discipline moving forward.
Benjamin Theurer
analystOkay. Within chicken, the value-added sales obviously has kind of like gained share internally. How sustainable is that? And where do you think there's maybe further opportunity to improve?
Devin Cole
executiveYes. Listen, I'm very, very bullish on our ability to continue. We've seen some very large gains, both in volume, dollar share, household penetration, whatever metric you want to look at, across retail and Foodservice with our value-added portfolio, which only says next year, we will have to achieve that and something greater than that. And I fully believe that we will do that. And the reason I do is I have had the opportunity to have a glimpse at our innovation pipeline. And it's all those things that I've talked about. It's not just a complete turnover of our products because one thing I would point out is that innovation can be expensive. So we're making sure when we place these bets that we are not only getting trial, but getting repeat across every day part, particularly in snacking, we've had tremendous success more recently. And it's not just line extensions, I should point out, too. It is truly a lot of white space for us. And so I think that we will continue to grow within the category or within the segments that we're known for, but I think people will be excited and surprised to see some of the things that are in particularly the Prepared Foods pipeline for next year that they might not expect from us.
Benjamin Theurer
analystOkay. Clearly, chicken can be very volatile, very fast, and you always warn about the downside risks, no matter what. So just remind us a little bit what are you seeing in the market? What could go wrong, right? What could go wrong in chicken to kind of like reverse course and have a little more of a negative impact maybe in the next couple of months? Is it too much production because hatch issues are solved? Or what are the key things you're watching?
Devin Cole
executiveI think if you think about the industry sort of biomarkers that are widely talked about, it appears to us that it will continue to be a stable environment. So as I think about USDA projections on grain, yes, there's certainly some calls and puts relative to tariffs and some of the imports and exports. But I don't see anything disruptive on the grain front. In terms of overall production, it's certainly something that we watch. We have very thankfully managed our live production footprint very well. We're confident in the breed that we use, but we're more confident in our team because at the end of the day, it really is about the execution in that part of the business and the management of it. And so luckily, we have seen relative to the public data that's out there, a better performance on that side of the business. So I don't see a lot of numbers that are available that would tell me there's going to be a huge uptick in production next year. If you look at USDA forecast across all the proteins, it's pretty minimal, and I think the demand will more than outweigh that. So I don't see anything from an industry perspective. But I would also tell you this, too, in our value-added Poultry business, if we did see an opportunity where the industry were to produce more than they could consume, we certainly can go take advantage of that and bring that into our operations. And so I think what I focus on is our business, how fast our business is growing and making sure that we have the right supply to take care of our customers. The one thing I'm very proud of across prepared and poultry is that we've maintained a 98-plus percent fill rate. And so we are not only making sure we have the right quality, but it's in the right place at the right time for our customers. So what could go wrong? Listen, this is a difficult business. And what I have confidence in is that the things that could go wrong are largely execution. And I think we're proving ourselves as being very confident in execution. But I would also tell you, I don't say that with any ego, meaning that we wake up every day realizing we need to do the same thing today or better than we did yesterday. It is about continuous improvement for us, and that is what we're focused on.
Benjamin Theurer
analystGood stuff. Obviously, opposite of the cycle kind of like great in chicken, but pretty challenging in beef still. Have you seen -- what signs have you seen over summer? Are you getting a little more, call it, excited or optimistic about some of the rebuild happening? What are like kind of the markers? And more short term, how much of an impact does it have on your business that there is this restriction from Mexican cattle because of screwworm coming into the U.S.
Devin Cole
executiveCurt?
Curt Calaway
executiveYes. So certainly, start with an overview relative to beef. It's been certainly limited availability, right, has been the journey we've been on. And we've seen a spread volatility during that time period as well. But I think from our business, we have continued to focus on the efficiencies within our business and controlling what we can. We have seen, to your question, an environment where we've said for the first time, about a quarter ago, if we haven't reached the point, we could see it from where we're at, and we talked a bit more definitively last month that we believe the signs are there that herd rebuilding is in place. We've talked about the beef cow -- or the cowherd. We've talked about heifer retention, and we talked about beef cow slaughter being down year-over-year as well. All signs positive. Certainly a number of other macroeconomic environment conditions that we've seen that we believe we're at that point, right? Now that's going to take a while. Once right, that -- once heifer retention has begun, that's going to take a cycle as it works its way through before those animals are available for us. You mentioned New World screwworm and the Mexico border currently closed, continues to present another challenge. While not hugely meaningful, it is meaningful and more meaningful to the southern part of the beef cattle processors. But ultimately, as we work our way through the cycle, and we said that it's likely to be '28 before it gets to the point in which you can see meaningfully back to a sustainable level of a cattle herd into the processing plants. But in the meantime, we're going to continue to run our operations as efficiently as we can. We're going to continue our cost savings programs, just as Devin had illustrated, we're doing in other parts of the business. But most importantly as well, we're going to continue to meet where the consumer is. So as the consumer continues to seek protein, they continue to seek protein from animal sources and they're looking for fresh and convenient alternatives. And we're meeting that need with not only fresh items but continuing to add season and marinated options and more convenient options for the consumer. That's going to be the difference as we manage our way through '26, '27 and beyond in '28.
Benjamin Theurer
analystJust as a follow-up on that, you said about the investment operational excellence. So as you look at it, and not just fast forward maybe towards the end of the decade, with all these investments, would you expect that on a normal availability level, profit margins are going to be better than the last time excluding the whole COVID spikes and all that kind of stuff, thinking more like 10 years ago and not so much 5 years ago.
Curt Calaway
executiveYes. Certainly, we've not shared a normalized range. Certainly, we've got to get through the herd cycle and see where it all settles out that. But we're very optimistic relative to what we've done within our business to control our future. And the cattle cycle will manage its way through, and it will balance over time.
Benjamin Theurer
analystOkay. We're waiting for that and in the future as an update. Switching gears back to prepared foods, which has been like kind of like the very strong segment over the last couple of quarters and continue to do very well with, I mean, the outlook close to about $1 billion in operating profit this year. What is different for Tyson in that business versus some of the peers? Because obviously, we're talking -- listening a lot of packaged food companies and a lot of them struggle, but you continue to do somewhat better. So what differentiates Tyson Foods here in the Prepared Foods business?
Devin Cole
executiveYes. Listen, certainly, it's a large category with a variety of different companies involved sort of all chasing, if you will, that same consumer. I think what I see in our business and what gives me confidence or some of the things that I've mentioned, one, just the uniqueness of our offerings, both from an innovation standpoint and the ability that we have to give very high protein offerings to people in a convenient fashion. I think in my career, the things that will never go out of a fashion with regard to consumer preference is it needs to, one, be a great value. That's not necessarily the cheapest price, but the relative pros point to the value of it, it's going to have to be convenient, and it's going to have to taste great. And we never lose sight of those things. And so when I walk around, which I often do, the storage is to look at what's going on around us and our position in the marketplace. I am really, really confident and happy with what I see because I see so many places that people can interact with our products. I know they're going to be happy with what they get. Whether we're talking about our Jimmy Dean offerings at breakfast. And again, Hillshire during the snacking part of the day, increasingly so or at lunch. And then, of course, the Tyson branded offerings at lunch and then the dinner daypart. And don't forget too that we have a presence around the perimeter of the store with fresh chicken and also a big presence in the deli. So it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to walk around the store and find something that didn't fit either the price, the offering, the convenience or the daypart that you're looking for, for us. So that's one piece of it. But then the second piece of this, for me, what is different is just the confidence I have in our operational excellence. It is better than it has ever been. It will continue to get better. We have exceptional people on that business, but they also have -- they have a great strategy in place. It's not happening by accident. And so daily, they are sitting down to talk about where they are either missing or making their marks that they have set out of the strategy and what are they going to do to either improve or to expand upon the places that they're having a positive impact. And so I see that going on, and it makes me feel very good. But again, if I think about that whole category of products, it's in a place that it hasn't been in quite some time. And I see nothing that will deter the momentum of that business in the future.
Benjamin Theurer
analystOkay. Following up real quick. I mean, obviously, we've seen a lot of like input price pressure from the raw material side within Prepared Foods, so thinking, bellies, trim [indiscernible], you have somewhat of an integrated sourcing, you know where it's coming from. How much allows you that knowledge to kind of like anticipate needed price increases? How much have you done? And where do you think you need to kind of like shake out on the pricing side to kind of like offset that input cost pressure?
Devin Cole
executiveYes. So coming out of Q3, is certainly the time of the year when we tend to see the hype of those raw material markets, and we're building inventory, that will flow through. And we have a couple of different pricing mechanisms. Certainly, we have formula pricing that tends to have a lag. So you'll see that flow through. And then we have the ability certainly to change price just at the point of sale, and we've done some of that, right? And I think the thing that I'd point to you the most is that we have -- we are very cautiously and very consciously watching those price points to make sure that we are staying within the realm of what I would characterize as providing value to that consumer and also within the category to make sure that we are competitive to the set. But yes, those are kind of the 2 mechanisms that we've had, and we've taken advantage of both of those.
Benjamin Theurer
analystOkay. And then I remember, Devin, in the past, you kind of like vis-à-vis you were very much in charge of the international business. You didn't get that many questions in the past conference calls but going to focus on very specific international questions now for you. Clearly, one of these segments -- the segment as well has done better, and we were seeing a lot of growth activity, there's a lot going on, on trade, right? I mean, between China, Brazil and the U.S., Australia, you name it. I mean, there's just a lot of moving pieces. If you look at the Tyson portfolio, you look at the business of Tyson and the opportunity in international, where do you think are the low-hanging fruits? And where would you like to potentially expand on opportunities to kind of keep that business going with the momentum that has been showing?
Devin Cole
executiveYes. So maybe just -- we don't talk a lot about it. We don't get a lot of questions about it. And I guess from my perspective, given the number of hours and the data that it requires, we certainly don't get a lot of questions, which is fine. But I'm very proud of that business. And so really, the journey that we've embarked on over the last, call it, 18 months as we had made tremendous investment. We have amazing assets, every place that we do business around the world, which is, for those that don't know, primarily Southeast Asia, China, we have some sales offices in Europe and Latin America. We have some joint venture partners in South America and the Middle East. And so we have the assets in place. We now have the leadership team in place. And we certainly have great customer partnerships around the world primarily foodservice business, primarily a further processing business, but we certainly have a retail presence in certain areas of the world also. And so I think what we've done over this time frame to get the results that we've seen is not unlike everything else that we've talked about. We took a step back and said, "Okay, where are we really and where do we want to go? What is the strategy that will get us there from a commercial lens? And also what are the opportunities and best practice sharing that we can learn from having done this a very long time in the U.S. and get to a point around the world where we have the same sort of metrics in place, the same sort of culture from an operational excellence and safety perspective that we would expect." And one, we have made tremendous progress, and two, I would tell you, we have as much progress to make. So I'm very optimistic about the trajectory of that business moving forward. And listen, I don't want to gloss over the fact that the -- those businesses just by their sheer nature, certainly have their headwinds, if you will, right? There's all sorts of geopolitical as well as economic pressure on those businesses. But that's true for everyone. It's not unique to us. And so what I have confidence in is that, one, we have put a leadership team in place. We support that from the U.S., but they are running these businesses in country by country. So they understand the nuances, they are closer to these conditions as they change, and we have dialogue every day, every morning, every night about what we're going to do about them. And so while those things exist, my confidence lies in the fact that now more than ever, we're in a position to both plan for those things and react to them when necessary.
Benjamin Theurer
analystOkay. Last segment, pork, you revised that one up. So that was another positive one in the last quarter. Obviously, probably benefits from some of the down trading patterns is just a cheaper alternative to beef. As you look at -- in your specific operations within pork, where do you think you could do better in that business from a profit margin perspective because it feels it's still a little below where it could be. So what are the missing pieces here? What type of investments you're planning on getting that back to what we've seen in the past on a margin profile?
Curt Calaway
executiveYes. So I think I'd start with certainly acknowledging, as you said, right? We not only narrowed but raised the midpoint of the guidance. I think it's been performing very well this year, and that really is attributed to the team and their execution. They've done a phenomenal job across 2025, and we expect them to continue that as well. But to your point, relative to a trade down, right? Certainly, in an environment where beef availability down and likely probably down a little bit as we move forward, based on the USDA data and chicken being up somewhat, right? So it will continue to have a benefit of a rather stable outlook relative to availability. And consumers are continuing to seek value. And to your point, that's another opportunity. What we have to do, just as I mentioned in beef as well is continue with season and marinated offerings. As Devin talked about, relative to pack type, pack size and attributes that we're giving them is very important for us to continue to accelerate that business. But we're optimistic on the future for it as well and done a very nice job. We've done those operational execution things within the pork business as well. We did make a decision a while ago that we condensed our footprint, still kept the same throughput, but minimized our overhead associated with one facility, continuing the journey as is expected of us to optimize that footprint. No changes relative to that in the future. But within the operational execution of each of those, they're continuing to operate better and meeting that consumer need.
Benjamin Theurer
analystOkay. To wrap up, just a few things on capital allocation, cash allocation. You just reopened, restarted share repurchase. So how are you going to think of executing that over the course of the next 2 years? And how do you think about buybacks versus dividends versus CapEx and/or M&A just in general, like from a priority standpoint of view?
Curt Calaway
executiveYes. It certainly starts with our capital allocation priorities. And as we've consistently said, our net leverage target of at or below 2x. We finished last quarter at 2.1x. So we're almost there, very close, and that gave us an opportunity to you illustrated at the beginning of the question, to reopen small degree, but reopen share repurchases, something we hadn't done since Q1 of '23. So we had not bought back some of the equity dilution that we normally experience. So we've probably got some of that to catch up since we've been out of the market since Q1 of '23. But certainly also looking at the share price where it was at was an attractive entry point for us. We did increase last year -- or for this year, our dividend, which is the 13th consecutive year of an increase a very important metric for us as well. And while CapEx is down a little versus historical, meaning the last few years, it's not really down much relative to a longer-term historical. We spent a high watermark near $1.9 billion a couple of years ago and back-to-back years really as we added capacity in the network and spent on new facilities, both domestically and internationally. That's not necessary as we move forward relative to that pace that we were on. And so I would expect it to be lower relative to certainly those high watermarks, but we're very comfortable with the level of CapEx that we've shared. And M&A is always going to be opportunistic for us. I think we've shown a very disciplined approach and would expect that to continue to be the case with expecting a high return, high confidence and most importantly, a need to meet consumer -- to meet that consumer need will be important for us in the lens to look at.
Benjamin Theurer
analystOkay. So just to confirm, it's about $1 billion in CapEx, which you would think is like kind of like a normalized level without expansion or?
Curt Calaway
executiveYes, that's a very reasonable number, yes.
Benjamin Theurer
analystPerfect. All right. Well, Curt, Devin, thank you very much. We do not have a breakout, but obviously, you have the opportunity to meet the team in group meetings or one-on-ones. And thanks for joining us. Congrats once again on the expanded role and hope to see you next year. Thank you very much.
Devin Cole
executiveThank you.
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