Vertiv Holdings Co (VRT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
June 2, 2021
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Lance Vitanza
analystWelcome, everyone. I'm Lance Vitanza, Cowen's Equity -- Senior Equity Research Analyst in TMT, and I'm delighted to have with us at our 49th Annual TMT Conference Vertiv today. It's a very exciting time for the company. I'm thrilled to have with us David Fallon, the Chief Financial Officer; as well as Gary Niederpruem, Chief Strategy and Development Officer. And before we begin, let me just mention quickly that like many of you, I am still working from a remote location. So please bear with me if we have any brief interruptions, dog barking, construction and so forth. But with that, Gary and David, thank you very much for being with us. We've got a lot to get to. So I hope we can just jump right in.
Gary Niederpruem
executiveSuper.
David Fallon
executive[indiscernible]
Lance Vitanza
analystSo let's cut to the chase and talk about the current environment. In the first quarter, I mean, I apologize if this sounds like a history lesson here, but I think this is important to start here. First quarter sales were up 22%. You talked about strength in all regions and verticals, record backlog. Could we start by talking about where you're seeing the strongest growth in terms of geography, product, channel? Or if it's easier, could you just sort of walk us through what you're seeing in terms of the current outlook by region, by category, however you'd like to do it.
Gary Niederpruem
executiveYes, absolutely, Lance. I can start, and then David can certainly add some additional color as well. And by the way, there's no problem repeating history where you have numbers like 22% order and sales growth. We say that all day long. So it's great to have good numbers that you're proud of. So I think from a demand side, let's break it down by the end markets, which is how we typically talk about, particularly on our quarterly call. So cloud and colocation is really pretty strong still in every region in the world. So there will always be periods of digestion that occur from time to time. But at this point in time, we see supply and demand in that cloud and colocation being pretty well aligned and being pretty well in equilibrium. So we don't think as far out as we can see over the next couple of quarters, that there's going to be any pullback from the cloud and colocation demand. So that is really, really robust. The enterprise and IT channel, talk a little bit about that for a second. We -- it was a pretty big deal when we upgraded that from red to yellow in our last earnings call. And that came about primarily because we did start to see signs of health in the enterprise, and we've continued to see our IT channel business grow and have some momentum over the last 3, 4, 5 quarters now. So that was the reason for the upgrade. And then when you talk about our telecom business, telecom has been pretty strong also, both primarily in China and in the U.S. where there's pretty heavy 5G builds going on. We don't see quite the level of investment in sort of Southeast Asia or India or Europe just yet, but that will come over the course of the next couple of years. So we're not worried about it. That's just a timing sequence. So really, for the most part, Lance, I would say that we see most of our end markets being really pretty robust and pretty robust in each one of the major regions that we operate in. So I'm happy to have you double click, but I'll sort of stop there, so I don't ramble too long.
Lance Vitanza
analystYes. No, no, that's great. So I guess one of the big questions that we hear a lot is, to what extent is this sort of a onetime COVID -- either a COVID bounce or a onetime COVID acceleration that will wane now that we've got people returning to the office and so forth. What are your thoughts on that?
Gary Niederpruem
executiveYes. I don't think it is. I mean, we don't see that happen. When we talk to our customers, yes, there are always anecdotes around, hey, Zoom users went up or people did more gaming from home. So those are all anecdotal pieces of it, certainly. But I think what we've experienced in the last 12 to 15 months is just a way of life and how we're going to do things moving forward. So I don't think there's going to be any less data traffic that gets generated 2 years from now than where we sit today. And in fact, there's only going to be more. So I don't think that -- the other question we get asked quite a bit, are people placing orders right now? Is there double counting in there? Are people pulling demand in or anything? And honestly, we don't see that either. We just see a relatively well balanced environment where the supply and demand in this cloud and colocation world are pretty good. We see enterprise continuing to ramp. And with all of the work we've done in the IT channel space, we think we're taking a little bit of share there. And 5G and telecom will always be a little bit more volatile or lumpy than any of the other businesses. But we have great presence, and we have really good runway with the other regions of the world that haven't even started with 5G. So long story short, I don't think this is just a one-time pop. I think we're fundamentally in a pretty good market, and we're in a really good position in that market.
Lance Vitanza
analystGreat. And then I think you kind of answered this, but the long-term guidance that you had given before COVID, and I go back to when we launched on Vertiv over a year ago, the numbers et al reflected an underlying industry growth of 3% to 4%, which is respectable. But clearly, the market over the past 6 months is growing a lot faster than that. And so it sounds like -- it sounds like you're saying, you think that, that is sustainable. I'm not looking for new guidance, but essentially, at the end of the day, we should -- I mean, should we be thinking about something greater than 3% to 4% and therefore, something greater than the -- I think it was the 4% to 6% long-term revenue growth that you've kind of laid out as a guidepost?
Gary Niederpruem
executiveYes. Great question. So I would say, at this point, when we talk about that 3% to 4% growth, that's sort of a through the cycle number. So last year would have been a little depressed. This year is going to be a little bit higher than that, I certainly think. So it's hard to tell. We think the market last year was probably down 3% to 4%. And organically, we were down less than 1%. So we think that probably meant a little bit of goodness from a share standpoint there. This year, we think the market probably is going to be certainly in the upper end of that range, probably actually closer to 5% to 6% from what we can see right now. And I think -- and David, correct me if I'm wrong, I think with our latest guide, organic sales for this year, it's probably going to be 9% to 10%. So squarely, squarely outpacing the market, squarely in that 1.5x to 2x market growth rate, what we want to strive for. When we look out to '22 and '23, could it be a little bit north of 3% to 4%, potentially, it could be, but probably a little early to call the ball. So I think the best way to say it is, there's certainly nothing that we see that suggests that we couldn't be on the high end of that market growth range, and there's nothing that we see that suggests that it's going to be on the low end of that by any means.
Lance Vitanza
analystAnd I think that's an important clarification that you mentioned a minute ago that, that 3% to 4% was always meant to be a long -- I mean, through the cycle. So certainly, there will be multiyear periods where that could be above or below that. It sounds like we're just in one of those above multiyear periods now.
Gary Niederpruem
executiveExactly right. Very, very well said.
Lance Vitanza
analystOkay. So you mentioned the performance relative to peers or relative to the market, however you want to phrase it. And clearly, Vertiv is doing something right. Are your customers telling you anything in particular? I'm trying to get a sense for why you are winning? Is it superior product? Is it a broader portfolio of product? Is it reach and your ability to deliver globally? Is it pricing? Is it sales execution? I know you've been working on all of these areas, but what are you hearing?
Gary Niederpruem
executiveYes. So it's hard to distill it down, so I'm going to do my best and give you probably 2 or 3 bullets. So I think number one is the revamped go-to-market efforts that we have been putting in place now for the better part of 4 or 5 years are clearly, clearly taking hold. And so the way we see that is before they were -- before meaning 4 or 5 years ago, there was opportunities at our customers that we weren't even seeing. We didn't have the visibility to it. Now we see it. And we ask our salespeople who say, I don't care if there's a 1% chance of winning or 100% chance of winning, that needs to go in the pipeline. So our pipeline is much bigger today than would have been years ago. And a lot of that is because of the visibility that we have with the enhanced go-to-market effort. So that's clearly #1. But #2 is once you have that visibility, then it's incumbent on you to do something about it. And so what we've been able to do about it is the product development initiatives. And we've been very public about wanting to take our R&D spend from 3.5% to up to almost 6%. Now I think this year, we're going to be 5.2%, 5.3%, 5.4%, somewhere thereabouts, so not all the way up to 6%. But what's that allowed us to do is now that we have visibility what the customers are doing, we can jointly partner and collaborate with them, particularly in that cloud and colocation space to build a product of what they need and so I think when you have that visibility, then you double down in the R&D dollars that you are able to commit to. That only helps the product development cycle. And when you can collaborate with the customers in that product development cycle, that's a pretty powerful circle of life that we can create there. So I think -- look, there's a lot of different things we can talk about, efficiency and service technology and websites and all that type of stuff, but fundamentally, is you got to -- it's like in baseball, you see the ball, hit the ball. So we see the ball -- we see the customers, and we want to hit them with all that collaboration and innovation that we're developing.
Lance Vitanza
analystWell, and I think for me, the key takeaway, at least, is that essentially, by going in and doing a better job of understanding what your clients' needs are, [Audio Gap] size of your addressable market, so that you're able to basically tackle an opportunity where it is growing much more quickly than the 3% to 4% underlying growth.
Gary Niederpruem
executiveWe have added billions of dollars to our served market over the last 3 or 4 years, Lance, just because those -- that's the visibility and the ways that we can see things today. Yes, the market's grown a little bit, but billions of dollars in our certain market just because now we see everything. And now that we see it, we can run after it pretty hard.
Lance Vitanza
analystGreat. So what about margin performance? And you mentioned R&D, and obviously, that's an important part of growing the pie. 1Q saw a very nice increase in margin, not surprising given the sales growth. And in fact, I was going to ask you, to what extent was that margin -- just the benefit of higher revenues, given the operating leverage in the business for, were there cost-outs or operating efficiencies? I know that's obviously been a big part of the game plan here is to sort of bring your margins more in line with peers. I'm just trying to figure out to what extent it was specifically that versus just the growth in the underlying revenues?
Gary Niederpruem
executiveYes. I'll certainly let David chime in. He can answer this beautifully. So...
David Fallon
executiveThere you go. So as you know, Lance, a big philosophy that Dave Cote has brought to Vertiv is something that he really mastered and championed at Honeywell. And that's a concept of keeping fixed cost constant, and it's fairly simple philosophy. You keep your fixed cost constant, you grow the top line and you benefit from leverage. The first quarter was a perfect case study of the benefits of that philosophy. So I think the adjusted operating margin increased almost 800 basis points from the first quarter of last year. Contribution margin, which we define as just sales less maybe a bucket of 10 to 15 truly variable costs in direct material, direct labor, freight, commissions. Contribution margin percentage was relatively flat. And fixed costs, dollars were flat. So the entire increase in the adjusted operating margin in the first quarter this year versus last year, was due to that sales leverage. And it's only one quarter and probably a little bit amplified just because the first quarter of last year was a relatively low sales quarter and pretty impressive 22% growth this year. But it's really a case study of the power of fixed costs. Now we're not going to see that every quarter. But when you go from our guidance for adjusted operating margin for full year 2021 of 12% to 16%, which is where we think our competitors are to eventually to 20%, that philosophy of fixed cost constant while growing that top line, consistent 1.5x that industry growth really should drop anywhere from 75 to 100 basis points, if not more, to that adjusted operating profit on an annual basis and even more if we outpace that growth. So first quarter versus last year, certainly driven by that sales leverage. But going forward, we have some pretty significant plans to also improve that contribution margin. And the 2 areas that has been a focus -- that had been a focus over the last 24 months, and certainly will continue going forward is productivity from purchasing. We really started to mature with a global purchasing organization over the last couple of years. And a lot of the productivity we are seeing currently is based on leveraging the $4.9 billion global spend, where historically, we did not. We really purchased this 20 $200 million companies. And then also pricing, which I'm sure you'll have some questions related to the recent inflationary pressures that everybody has been seeing. But we anticipate a continued ramp-up of contribution margin based on purchasing improvements and also pricing.
Lance Vitanza
analystOkay. And I do want to get more into the details on the cost side in a minute. But before we do, something that comes up a lot, and I think we have some new people on the line. So I'd like to cover hyperscale colo versus enterprise in more detail. And first, I want to kind of continue to debunk this myth that Vertiv is somehow over-indexed to enterprise and under-indexed to hyperscale colo. I think people will often look and they'll see that most of your revenue comes from enterprise or more of your revenue comes from enterprise than it does from hyperscale colo, and they just jump to that erroneous conclusion. Isn't the fact of the matter that your business mix is really your -- mix, rather, is really just reflecting the overall industry composition and that hyperscale colo is becoming a bigger source of revenue for Vertiv every day?
Gary Niederpruem
executiveAbsolutely. And you're right, Lance. We do get this question quite a bit. So a couple of data points we can point to. So for the most part, over the last 5 years or so, our businesses consisted of about 70% data center, so 70% data center. 5 years ago, of that 70% of the data center, cloud and colocation businesses represented probably 5% to 10% of that. So a relatively small amount. If you fast forward that to today, we're probably almost at 30% of that 70%. So there's been huge, huge strides that we've made to close that gap over the last 4 or 5 years, evidenced by the 3 or 4 years of successful organic growth here. So that's sort of data points 1 and number 2 is, we think right now that the data center industry probably has about 35% of the spend going to cloud and colocation and 65% going to enterprise. So if the market is 35%, 65%, we're probably 30%, 70%. So are we slightly under-indexed the cloud and colocation? Yes, maybe slightly, but we've come from 5% to 30% in the last 5 years. So I have no doubt that we'll continue on that tour pace moving forward. So yes, slightly, likely under indexed, but really made up a huge amount of ground, and there's still plenty of room for runway as we move forward.
Lance Vitanza
analystYes. And that's the point, I think, right, is that there's nothing structural about your business that makes you less competitive, quite the opposite. And in fact, on that point, could you talk about the differences, if any, I assume that there must be in what it takes to be successful in the colo hyperscale channel versus the enterprise channel? I mean, I've heard that increasingly, it's the ability to offer broad integrated solutions across multiple geographies, right, which is where the big guys are playing. Is that right? And does that have implications for [Audio Gap] versus maybe some of the smaller mom-and-pops going forward?
Gary Niederpruem
executiveYes. There's no doubt about almost all of those points. So number one is, they certainly want to be collaborated with. You're not going to walk into the biggest and best customers and just say, "Hey, this is my white pencil, you're going to buy this." They're going to say, "No, let's make it half blue half white, let's tweak this, let's tweak that." And when you have incremental R&D dollars coming into the business, you can do those types of things. So innovative collaboration is at the top of the list when you talk about those -- that classic customers without a doubt. Number two then is, they really do want companies and partners of global scale. So it would have been okay years ago to say, I'm going to just deploy in the Americas, so I can use some of that just as a U.S. footprint or I really just need somebody in Italy that does [indiscernible] for me because that's where my next data center would to be. Now they're building their data centers in every part of the world in every region of the world. So they want to try to standardize the best they can and bring suppliers that are already global with them. So in a lot of ways, we are in countries operating today that help the cloud and colocation customer already because we know the local laws, we know the regulations, we know the general contractors. So we help our customers a lot of times getting into that new country, new region. So number two is, you really do need to be what we say not only global, but you need to be local everywhere and make sure you understand that. And number three is the service organization has to be local everywhere. So there's another use your terminology before sort of common myth that the cloud and colocation folks don't use service, and that's just not true at all. So there might be a different type of service, it might be a different service level agreement. Maybe we will only visit the site twice a year versus 4 times a year. But we have service contracts with every one of our biggest and best customers. And a lot of reasons we do that is because we are global everywhere in local, and people know that. And so I think it's all about customer collaboration with innovation. It's all about being global, and it's all about having a service organization that can take care of things when situations arise because the situations are going to arise, and so you want to be on the ground when that happens, not find somebody in and having them get to the site 24 hours later.
Lance Vitanza
analystSo -- and that makes intuitive sense why you would need those elements. It doesn't sound inexpensive to maintain all of those elements, though. And at the same point, we've heard some concerns about pricing and margin pressure even before we think about the cost of doing business. But just as the business shifts to these larger, more sophisticated conglomerate consolidated buyers, presumably, they have greater negotiating leverage, they're offering you bigger orders. So I would assume that unit pricing is lower, although interestingly, I have yet to find that kind of evidence in the numbers. So is that true? Or how should we think about unit pricing? Is it that unit pricing is lower, but it's just mass because you're selling a wider assortment of products in larger volumes?
Gary Niederpruem
executiveYes. I think the one word we talked about quite a bit is, do we have competition? Yes, there's no doubt, and that competition makes us better. But for the most part, the competitors are rational. When you talk about the other 2 or 3 or 4 big firms in this space, we're all rational, public companies that have to generate a bottom line for the shareholders. And so that helps in that conundrum. So the first thing I think I would note, Lance, is a competitive set is rational. That's number one. Number two is, yes, there's no doubt when you have large customers that are buying in large quantities, there certainly is some push and pull from a negotiation standpoint. But prices like number 4, 5 or 6 on the list when we go into a bid situation, it really is what's the technology like? What's the product availability? Have you been servicing me correctly? Do I know what you are, who you are? And then after you get to those 4 or 5 things, then price comes up. So price is certainly an element, but it's not in the top 3 or 4 or 5 things by any means, that's number two. Number three is your point about right. The evidence is in the numbers for the most part. We have not seen a deterioration as we go with more cloud and colocation customers. The only time that sometimes that margin story gets out there is when you're going to do an integrated solution, you naturally -- just by the word solution, you have naturally a little bit more third-party content that is going to be in that envelope. And so when you have more third-party content, you're obviously not going to get a margin profile on that, like you would just your organic pieces of it. So when we look at those solutions, we really want to make sure that, one, the margin we are getting on our organic content is equivalent to fleet average, if not higher. And then the third-party stuff is going to flow through at third-party type margins, which is very, very normal. So that solution stuff tends to sometimes have a lower margin percent. But when you unpack that, it's really the margin on our organic content is just like it would be at the fleet average, if not a little bit higher. So dealing with those classic customers is nothing different for us, nothing new. We've learned how to compete, and that does -- that might just made me stay awake years ago, but I think we've been very, very judicious and shrewd on how we handle all of those negotiations at this point.
Lance Vitanza
analystAnd then what about -- David mentioned earlier, the component shortages, I mean, I'm reading a little bit into this. I don't know to what extent you've been sort of seeing this. And again, it doesn't really seem like it's been impacting the numbers, but globally, right, we've seen shortages, and I'm just expecting that, that -- is it the case that your margins would have looked even better if that weren't the case? Or have you been able to sort of operate your way around those sort of supply chain issues that have been affecting so many companies?
Gary Niederpruem
executiveYes. I can start, and then David, please add in some additional color. But I would say, Lance, we're certainly not immune to it. It is a day-to-day fight. And one day, it could be, fans are an issue. The next day, it could be some power electronic components, the next day could be something else. So it is definitely a day-to-day dog fight in that. But there is -- over the years, we've learned to dual source, both from a vendor and from a component standpoint, for the most part. It doesn't mean we still don't get stuck every once in a while. But we've been pretty well schooled on how to do those things. So could the numbers have been better? Yes, maybe. But I think for the most part, we've learned how to handle these supply chain shortages with pretty good adeptness as evidenced even by when we had the COVID shutdowns last year, we still were pretty flexible in our supply chain and operations to be able to service most of our customers. So David, I don't know if there's anything else you want to add or chime in there in addition to that?
David Fallon
executiveI think probably the most direct financial impact that we've seen, and this is putting supply shortages and inflationary costs kind of in the same category or bucket. But I think based on our guidance at the end of the first quarter, we had estimated maybe about $45 million of annual headwinds for inflation, that includes commodity and freight included in our guidance is only offsetting about $25 million of that $45 million with additional price. And we took our pricing bogey up about $10 million at the end of the first quarter versus the beginning of the year assumption. So we're probably about $20 million upside down as it relates to recovering some of the higher costs with pricing. But we also mentioned that we believe the $25 million we have is probably a low watermark for us. We -- it's likely conservative. There's opportunity for us to recover additional pricing. What we're seeing now is just kind of a natural lag that costed us before we can actually enact some of the pricing initiatives. If you went out 9 months, we're fully confident we'd be able to certainly recover dollar for dollar, those commodity costs, but there could be a little bit of a lag when you look at full year 2021 but we remind the organization investors, the world doesn't end at 12/31. And if you look at it over a normal period of time, we believe we have developed that pricing muscle to offset periods of inflation like we're seeing right now.
Lance Vitanza
analystAnd the prices that you set for your customers tend to be sticky on the way down. So if anything, over time, you can make a -- it's almost like you're making a margin on the price increase that you're experiencing. It just takes you some time to get there?
David Fallon
executiveAbsolutely right. Absolutely right. Prices are sticky upwards. And if commodity costs subside and actually go the opposite way, that could be a tailwind heading into 2022.
Lance Vitanza
analystSo we have just a few minutes left, and there's so much more that I wanted to get to, but I do want to open up for some of the audience questions that have come in. So maybe one that I find very interesting, I was going to get to on my own anyway is about Microsoft having recently posted their plan to build 50 to 100 new data centers per year for the foreseeable future, which, according to the same blog posting on Microsoft's website is, it's like a 25% to 50% increase per year in the number of data centers that it operates currently. I know this is just one company of many, but the question that I'm getting is, what does that kind of explosive growth in data centers mean for Vertiv? Is that indicative of what other hyperscalers are doing? Or is that just sort of a one-off outlier that we just say, okay, that's a need back to [indiscernible], but doesn't really represent what we're seeing in the marketplace.
Gary Niederpruem
executiveYes. So a lot to unpack there. I think that the biggest takeaway I have from announcements like that, Lance is, this is a good market, and there's nothing that underscores that more than when you see customers put out announcements like that. And we track pretty regularly. And I think we actually put it on our LinkedIn account for every week. When people put a -- and build a million square feet or building a 100-megawatt facility or Microsoft, I mean those are all things that add to the goodness of this market. So I won't comment specifically on the Microsoft numbers per se. But what I will say is, sometimes it's hard to understand and dissect those because the cloud folks can either build the data center themselves or go to a co-location. Sometimes the size range is different. If you're building out a 1-megawatt facility versus a 50-megawatt facility, there's a lot of variation there. So it's hard to exactly pinpoint we did X last year, and we're going to do Y this year because of that announcement. [Audio Gap]
Lance Vitanza
analystApples to apples.
Gary Niederpruem
executiveExactly. But I think the biggest takeaway is it is -- that's a fundamentally good announcement for the industry for Vertiv. And we've seen a lot of other customers continue it. I mean, even just today, there's a customer, so they're going to build up 1.5 million square foot data center in Texas which is brand new. I mean, these are big massive sites. So it just all goes to the fact that data processing and storage is not going to slow down, which means that the infrastructure to support it is in a pretty good spot as well.
Lance Vitanza
analystLet me try to squeeze in 2 more audience questions, if I can. The first is on the balance sheet, where you've made some progress since you came public. Where would you like to be over the sort of medium to longer-term in terms of your debt levels? Are you comfortable with the current leverage? Or you also have nearly $700 million of cash. Should we expect that, that ultimately is that just used to pay down your gross debt? Or at some point, should we be thinking about this as in addition to everything else as a return of capital story?
David Fallon
executiveYes, I'll take that one and inevitably, the answer is going to involve M&A. So Gary can comment on that as well. Just to summarize, I think we've always said we'd be comfortable in the long run in that 2% to 3% range. We could get a little bit lower than that if there isn't the right reinvestment opportunity. We would get a little bit higher for the right M&A opportunity. But I would say if you look at the prioritization, I think we're at a point with the balance sheet that we have the flexibility to be a little bit more aggressive with M&A. With that said, it's not a hammer looking for a nail. We don't feel like we have to do a deal, but there are opportunities out there. And we've been pretty devout over the last 18 months tracking a pipeline to be ready for this opportunity. And that's effectively what Gary and his team have been doing. So we would like to use the balance sheet, put that money to work. And I think M&A would be a preferred landing spot for some of those dollars.
Lance Vitanza
analystAnd the last one for me before we let you guys go is, just could you discuss the change in metric from EBITDA to adjusted operating profit and ultimately, do you expect the focus to be more on EPS anyway? And what sort of drove that decision?
David Fallon
executiveYes. I think it was a carryover. So we have -- prior to going public, we were owned by a private equity shop and adjusted EBITDA is the most common metric used by private equity to translate into value. When we marketed the business, pre-SPAC, we used adjusted EBITDA and we also telegraphed that we would be using adjusted EBITDA for the first year as a public company, and then we would revisit that. And we think adjusted operating profit, it's a GAAP measure effectively. And the biggest move is removing all the adjustments with the focus on transparency. We will let everybody know what the components of that profitability is. And different investors have different philosophies for what to adjust. But we just believe that this is the most transparent approach and to build credibility with investors and just to effectively facilitate that transition from PE to public.
Lance Vitanza
analystGentlemen, thank you so much. I think we're about 3 minutes over time right now. So I'm going to have to let you go, but I'm very grateful. I really look forward to following up with you off-line and continuing the dialogue.
Gary Niederpruem
executivePerfect.
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