Vodafone Idea Limited (IDEA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 11, 2026

NSEI IN Communication Services Wireless Telecommunication Services earnings 45 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Q1 FY '27 Results Conference Call hosted by Vodafone Idea. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Abhijit Kishore from Vodafone Idea. Thank you, and over to you, Mr. Kishore.

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#2

Thank you, Devin. Good afternoon, and a very warm welcome to all of you. Thank you for making the time to be here today. On 10 August 2026, our Board of Directors adopted the unaudited results for the quarter ending June 30, 2026. All the results related are available on our website and hope that has a chance to go through the same. Our robust quarter 1 FY '27 operating and financial performance has been endorsement of our well-defined strategy to clear execution. Let me share our progress on the key strategic initiatives, after which I'll hand over to ages, who will share the details on the company's financial. I would like to begin by updating you on 7 critical business parameters that we had mentioned in the last earnings call as well. I'm happy to share that all 7 of these critical business parameters are now trending positively. Our revenue improved 6% Y-on-Y to INR 11,689 crores while cash EBITDA demonstrated double-digit growth of 13.5% stood at INR 2,475 crores. We also increased our subscriber base, 193.1 million of customers vis-a-vis last quarter. Net subscriber addition, which turned a corner February last quarter has continued its trajectory. We delivered our first quarter of positive net subscriber addition since merger, we will continue this momentum. Our churn reduced by 24 basis points year-on-year this quarter. We remain focused to reduce our churn with the sustained network investment as well as get a competitive share of quality gross additions as we expand our coverage and enter new geographies. We also added nearly 3,000 unique broadband towers during the quarter and over 15,600 new sites over the last 12 months, expanding our pan-India 4G coverage, 87%. On 5G, if its substantial strides by expanding in significant. I'm pleased to share that our 5G services are now live in over 200 cities across all our 17 circles that we have spectrum. Our disciplined execution and commitment to deliver clear network experience has needed robust progress despite prevailing geopolitical headwinds impairing the CapEx deployment quarter 1 FY '27. Our customer ARPU grew from INR 177 Q1 FY '26 sales to INR 195 in quarter 1 FY '27, a growth of 10.2% year-on-year. Higher steel industry a sequential improvement of 2.6%. The customer ARPU has now been increasing for 20 consecutive quarters, customer ARPU expansion over the last year has been driven primarily by remain which is evident from our growing 4G, 5G subscriber mix stood at 67.4% in quarter 1 FY '27, up from 64.4% in quarter 1 FY '26 as well as higher data usage by per broadband subscribers. We closed this quarter with 130.1 million 4G, 5G subscribers up from 127.4 million quarter 1 FY '26. Our focused execution has also translated better customer engagement as reflected in data usage. The average data usage by 4G, 5G subscriber improved 25.2% year-on-year to 21.7% GB in quarter 1 FY '27. Overall, as a result, our data usage since quarter 1 FY '27 increase year-on-year by nearly 28%, 88.4 petabytes per day from 69.1 petabytes per day quarter 1 FY '26. These crucial business parameters clearly reflect that the customers are getting a better network experience since we have sustained investments and continue to remain engaged.

Piyush Choudhary

analyst
#3

Sorry to interrupt, sir. This is the operator. Sir, the line is getting slightly unclear for you. May I try reconnecting, you, sir?

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#4

Yes.

Operator

operator
#5

Sure. Give me 1 moment, please. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we have now reconnected with the management. Over to you, sir.

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#6

Okay. So just to kind of cover that we've just spoken on all the 7 critical parameters, which is all moving in the right direction. Moving on to the funding and its mobilization through CapEX, on the funding front, we have 2 important updates. First, on the warrants, we have received INR 1,183 crores as part proceeds from the issue of warrants to our promoters Adithya Birla Group. Second, I'm delighted to share that we were assigned CRISIL A stable rating by CRISIL in May 2026, followed by a credit rating upgrade to ICRA A- stable by ICRA in June 2026. The ratings were assigned and upgraded by CRISIL and ICRA, respectively, a certain long-term bank facilities considering the positive development over the last few months. I also want to update on the broader financial architecture that supports our CapEx plan of INR 45,000 crores over the next 3 years. This architecture is built on 3 cohorts. First is the consortium of public sector banks led by SBI with 6 to 7 participating banks. Second cohort is of the Indian private banks, and the third one is of the ECB, it's foreign bank. We remain meaningfully engaged with our lenders across these 3 cohorts and have made substantial progress with them. I'm happy to share that we have successfully raised our first tranche of funding INR 6,400 crores, including partial proceeds of INR 1,183 crores from warrants and debt proceeds, including nonfunded based facilities through ECB and Indian Private Bank. We have already placed orders worth INR 9,000 crores CapEx till now, which also includes the CapEx undertaken in quarter 1 FY '27 of INR 1,930 crores. The supplies and execution is these orders have already come in and will continue. We are now focused on accelerating network expansion, ease fresh orders, Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung and other partners which will be executed as we move forward. We are hopeful of closing the discussion with the PSU banks led by SBI as well as continued work on other debt raised streets. Next are differentiated product offerings and market initiatives. Our focus is on enriching customers' digital lifestyle with experiences that extend well beyond just voice and data. Towards this, we partner with Spotify offer our postpaid VMAX subscribers in a music stream experience. For prepaid subscribers, we launched Vadoo plus, a co-branded nonstop iron partnership with physicswala of Utter Pradesh and Rajasthan, combining unlimited on digital learning benefit students. We also launched Insta data national and emergency dataset giving eligible prepaids users, 1 GB extra data instantly, their daily data limit drops 10 MB in 2 days of validity adjusted from their active at. We further strengthened the international roaming portfolio, the launch of [ choose the own ] which offers subscribers greater flexibility to a wider range of validity, enabling them to those choose plans, the suited their travel requirements. Our truly unlimited roaming plan now available of 59 countries. We also partnered to enable silent mobile verification across Meta platforms like WhatsApp is book and install enabling safer, seamless and password less digital experience for million of users. We are creating seamless authentication experience across some of the country's most widely used digital plaform. Our proactive identification solutions part was built on strengthening Vodafone Idea cyber resilience. We are now upgrading AI-led early detection. These advancements strengthen our innovation, ensuring we stay Head of merging Thread. Our recent brand camping, everyone is priority, reemphasized a larger belief that every customer deserves and network further strengthening brand differentiated business. Moving on to our enterprise business. The business continued to strengthen its position trusted enterprise partner through a comprehensive portfolio of future-ready digital puts backed by robust 5G infrastructure and a growing ecosystem of a strategic technology product. During the quarter, demand for business solutions remains strong of connectivity, cloud, IoT, business communication, mobility and cybersecurity driving increased enterprise adoption across key sectors, including BFSI manufacturing utilities, logistics and government. We also unveiled is MSME ready for 5.0 on world MSME Day 2026. The latest addition India's largest digital advisory platform for MSME. We business signed the memorandum understanding with Andre Pradesh MSME Development Corporation, digitally empowered over 1 lakh SME in the state. We believe the telecom industry well positioned for growth and the need for connectivity is driven by fast-growing economy and growing and general population, driving technology adoption across all age groups, lower rural density. Our improving trend, the recent positive development gives us increasing confidence in our ability to participate in the industry's growth story. With that, I'll hand over the call to Tejas our CFO, for the financial commentary. Thank you.

Tejas Mehta

executive
#7

Thank you, Abhijit. Good afternoon, everyone. We continue to witness improving trends across key financial and operating metrics. Last quarter, I highlighted that the average daily revenue was the highest in the last 6 years. We have now sustained that momentum with another quarter of revenue growth. The revenue for the quarter was INR 11,689 crores, registering Y-o-Y growth of 6% and a 3.2% improvement on a sequential basis, driven by ARPU expansion. . The EBITDA for the quarter was INR 5,000 crore mark and reached INR 5,034 crores, improving by 9.1% Y-o-Y. The EBITDA margin improved by over 120 basis points from 41.8% to 23.1% in the same period. The cash EBITDA for the quarter improved by 13.5% to INR 2,475 crores versus the same quarter last year. The cash EBITDA improved despite the rollout of over 15,600 broadband sites during the last 12 months, reflecting a focus on overall cost management. Depreciation and amortization expenses and the net finance for the quarter INR 5,467 crores and INR 4,925 crores, respectively. Excluding the impact of [indiscernible], the depreciation and the amortization expense and the net finance cost for the quarter was INR 3,860 crores and INR 3,701 crores respectively. Additionally, we also recorded a benefit of INR 1,816 crores in the exceptional items on account of the fair value adjustment of the earmark shares from Lab. This remeasurement of fair value will be undertaken every quarter, and its impact adjusted an exceptional item until the shares are liquidated. Due to the supply side issues arising from the geopolitical constraints, the CapEx investment for the quarter was INR 1,930 crores. And as Abhijit has guided, we tend to accelerate our network expansion towards which we have already placed orders with our partners. Our bank debt has reduced to only INR [indiscernible] crores as of June 30 from INR 1,926 crores as of June of the prior year, a reduction of INR 1,715 crores in the last 12 years. The free cash and bank balance as of June 30 stands at INR 6,538 crores. Our recent credit ratings and the continued promoter support have been a significant catalyst for ongoing debt conversation, which further strengthen our conviction in the execution road map laid by us. I would like to hand over by reiterating that this quarter's results reflect our growth momentum, translating into improving operational and financial performance the highlight being net customer addition for the first time since the merger. With that, I hand the call back over to Tom. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#8

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Sanjesh Jain with ICICI Securities. .

Sanjesh Jain

analyst
#9

A couple of questions from my side, Abhijit. First on the subscriber transition and the benefit of the network, how should we see from here on, particularly on the mobile customer how should it translate and what has been the trend in the circles now that we have implemented CapEx in last 1 year? Have we seen those circles turning positive in terms of mobile subscriber net adds?

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#10

Yes. So just your kind of -- you have more questions, then I can take all of them? Or do you want to respond right now.

Sanjesh Jain

analyst
#11

No, I will -- so second on ARPU, we have been bridging the ARPU gap versus the peers. How much more do you think it is possible before the transition of 4G and 5G really helps push the ARPU growth? How much more is it possible by improving the efficiency within the network to take the ARPU to, say, next 1 year, what are we targeting? That's number two. And number three on the CapEX, we said that we have put up INR 9,000 crores of CapEx. We have already invested close to INR 2,000 in this quarter. By spending this INR 9,000 crores, INR 10,000 crores this year, where do we see our network capacity in terms of expansion from the current level.

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#12

Okay. So thanks, Sanjesh, for asking me a question. Okay. So let me take the first one. On the subscriber addition, the answer is clearly yes. We look at it at different cohorts on all these 17 markets that we have defined for ourselves and obviously, where we are putting the network India rural as well as in the urban markets. This club will be 5G wherever we have we rolled out. We clearly see a difference on the customer the entity, which is what I spoke of, of 0.24% that we see over the last year, which is improving. This is visible across the circus. Obviously, as I say, the journey continues. We have put 15,500 sites in the last 1 year and 32,000 sites on 4G in the last 2 years, and we see a significant delta being placed. But the journey continues, and we still have where we need to put our 4G sites as and when we are putting the 4G sites and the 5G sites, we clearly see. So that's the one. Second is, obviously, as we said, this is the first quarter for us on the subscriber addition to be positive largely led between postpaid and into end, prepaid is also turning leave, and we see a clear and significant in spend churn quality of the gross acquisition that we acquired now. So it's all pointing in the right direction. As far as the ARPU is concerned, as I said, we've kind of grown by 10%. We expect to keep the same momentum. This is obviously organic ARPU growth, which is where we have a differentiated opportunity between the mix of customers of between 2G and a 4G, 5G as well as unlimited voice and unlimited data customers and then between the unlimited data at the nonstop hero which is a differentiated offering for us. So we continue, and we hope to see that we will continue a similar trend a little better than where we are today on the ARPU of 195 blend in the. On the CapEx, our guidance on the CapEx continues. We are looking at the INR 45,000 crores for the next 3 years, as we have said. The first quarter, because of the supply chain in -- we saw a little bit of a booted INR 2,000-odd crores of the CapEx spend. As I indicated, we have already placed the orders for INR 9,100 crores, which includes the INR 1,930 crores of the CapEx, which has been deployed. We intend to deploy all of these CapEx over the next 2 quarters, less than 2 quarters. So the intensity continues. We are looking at deploying roughly around 3,500 sites a month on an average hereon.

Sanjesh Jain

analyst
#13

3,500 you said is the tower count or the...

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#14

The tower count on the 4G.

Sanjesh Jain

analyst
#15

Abhijit, one question on the postpaid. Now that the fast lane 5G is becoming a reality in India, do you see risk to your postpaid customer?

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#16

On the contrary, Sanjesh, I will say that we have seen an increase in our postpaid acquisition as well as entity. So as we speak, we don't see that as a challenge. However, we continue to provide experience and we have enough capacity to provide the experience to our customers, not only postpaid and prepaid equally.

Sanjesh Jain

analyst
#17

Got it. Got it. Anything on the 5G, how many towers we have done? I know you said 200-plus cities. But some petite number in terms of tower coverage, that would be helpful.

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#18

Yes. So we are now -- as we speak, we are over 16,000 sites in 5G, and we intend to kind of cover another 200 plus cities over the next 2 quarters.

Operator

operator
#19

Our next question comes from the line of Aditya Suresh with Macquarie.

Aditya Suresh

analyst
#20

Two items. So first, Abhijit you can like speak to us about your cash EBITDA targets, which you had articulated a few months back, like reiterate what the guidance is or what the ambition is over the next 3 years? And if you could break that down for us in terms of how much of that is going to be the top line versus margin expansion? That's the first item. . The second item is a clarification. Could you clarify what is the position of net debt as of this quarter? That's one. And 2 is, within your subscriber number, how much of these subscribers are in that M2M category?

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#21

Sorry, data, if you could just repeat the second question. You said what is the net addition?

Aditya Suresh

analyst
#22

No, no, sir, what is your current net debt position? And Also, if you can clarify on your M2M subscribers .

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#23

Okay. So I'll take the first 1 first, and Tejas, you can chime in. So on the cash EBITDA, we had a INR 9,200 crores of cash EBITDA last year. We are at INR 2,575 this year. I think our guidance for the next 3 years was 3x of the cash EBITDA, which is obviously built with certain assumptions on the organic as well as some of the price corrections which will happen. That guidance continues, and we are moving in the right direction as far as that is concerned. So that was obviously built over a customer as well as the ARPU, so that guidance continues clearly. On the top line, when we had looked at the total cash EBITDA of 3x, we had taken a guidance of a CAGR of around 3.8% for 3 years, which also continues as we speak. On the net debt, as Tejas said, we started the year with INR 700-odd crores of the bank debt that we had, we had a payment of INR 500-plus crores this quarter. And as we stand today, we are at INR 211 crores of the bank debt. In addition to that, we have taken the NCD borrowing of INR 3,300 crores. That's the debt that we have. So from a bank debt point of view, it is INR 211 crores from the NCD which we had raised in the month of December last year, that's INR 3,300 crores. So that's the only debt that we have. On the M2M, I think it's a good story. We're kind of seeing good traction in all the 4 verticals that we play be it automatic meter reading, vehicle tracking, connected car as well as point of sale. We see a good traction and over the last 1 year, we have actually doubled our net addition as far as the machine-to-machine is concerned, and that trajectory is a very strong trajectory. We have a pretty dominant position in the connected car space as far as the IoT is concerned.

Tejas Mehta

executive
#24

Just has clarified just open net debt for the quarter, we are ending at INR 3,489 crores. So that's the 2 constituents that Abhijit mentioned and that was INR 4,001 crores in the last quarter.

Aditya Suresh

analyst
#25

And can you just clarify the subscriber base in itself on M2M?

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#26

We don't give the breakup, Aditya, on that. As I indicated that the postpaid as well as the M2M is tracking pretty well. Prepaid is there, we have a job to do. and that's where the focus is now. As we roll out more and more sites, we are reaching to the places where we don't cover today, and that's the focus area.

Operator

operator
#27

Our next question is from the line of Gaurav from Axis.

Gaurav Malhotra

analyst
#28

Yes. I just had a couple of questions. One is on your network OpEx. That number has sort of remained broadly stable in the last few quarters, even though your network has obviously sharp improvement. So how should we sort of think about this going ahead? .

Tejas Mehta

executive
#29

Thanks for the question. I think we had a similar question also on the previous quarter. So I think 2 ways to answer. I think as we look at our cost efficiency effort, we will look at bringing efficiency into a network cost. So yes, while you said, we have been rolling out additional sites. We have been able to, in a way, manage the overall network cost. Having said that, we have seen some inflationary challenges from diesel, et cetera. So you might see a little bit of that. But overall, I would say we've been able to offset some of the increases with internal efficiency and some of it probably might get reflected in the coming quarters. But last 2 quarters, we have been able to offset that internally.

Gaurav Malhotra

analyst
#30

Understood. The next question is on your roaming access charges. That has seen a sharp increase. So is there anything related to some intra-circle roaming -- or how should we sort of think about this?

Tejas Mehta

executive
#31

No, I think nothing to do with the intra-circle roaming and nothing structural. Like any business, there are a few lines of business that we have. We have a wholesale line of business, which in this quarter, we have seen a better participation. And that comes with a higher roaming cost. If you will see the same line in the prior quarter, that was a little bit lower. So on an average, if you see the increase is not that high. And again, it's a cash accretive business, slightly higher cost than a lower percentage margin, but an overall cash accretive business that was -- we were able to participate higher in this quarter. .

Operator

operator
#32

Our next question is from the line of Balaji Subramanian with IIFL.

Balaji Subramanian

analyst
#33

Congrats on a decent set of results. I just had one. So if I look at the postpaid additions, they are at a multi-quarter high, but I can also see that a lot of that is probably led by M2M. So if I look at the TRAI number, the 2 million M2M subscribers were added in the June quarter. So that means there was a slight dip in the postpaid subscriber base ex-M2M in the June quarter, which is probably after 4 quarters of positive additions on the postpaid ex-M2M trend. So have you got anything to do with -- I know this question was also passed upon earlier. But has it got anything to do with the priority plant Airtel Fast plan that was recently launched by Bharthi. And do you see that as a risk because postpaid is where Vodafone has been fairly strong. And we also saw that in the quarter that went by Bharthi's postpaid additions crossed the 1 million mark for the first time. So how would you kind of plan to face of this challenge that would be my only question.

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#34

Yes. No. Thanks, Balaji, for asking that question. No. So we have not seen, as I said, even to Sanjesh, we've not seen any dip in the postpaid business. Even the net addition for us in postpaid has been consistently over the last 6 to 8 quarters being positive, and it's growing. There's no dip that we have seen at all. As far as the M2M is concerned, clearly, there is an increase in quarter 1 over the last quarter, which is where you see the increase in the M2M part, both these businesses are pretty stable business and a net addition positive business for us. So we don't see that. That's one. Second, as I said that our focus from the retail stores that we have. We have 2600-plus retail stores in 650-plus towns, where we have stores and mini stores -- of these stores, we don't see any dip whatever across the country as far as this business is concerned. We now want to comment on what competition in but we don't really see anything. And on the contrary, we are adding subscribers. .

Operator

operator
#35

Our next question comes from the line of Saurabh Handa with Citigroup.

Saurabh Handa

analyst
#36

My first question was on the funding that you spoke about. You've raised funds of INR 6,400 crores. Now of this INR 1,200 crores is the upfront warrant money which had already come in June. Could you just tell us a bit more about this balance of INR 5,200 of incremental funding. Is this mainly -- I mean, how much of this is debt versus nonfund-based and is the source of debt? Is it ECBs or is it Indian banks? .

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#37

Yes. So thanks, was for asking the question. You're right. So we brought the INR 1,183 crores, which is a partial part of the warrant. And we have been able to raise, as I said, in the 3 cohorts. This is primarily from the ECB and the Indian private bank. And this is a mix of both debt as well as the nonfunded facility. Can't give you the split, but yes, it is a split between both of them. And there is a part of the ECB as well in this.

Saurabh Handa

analyst
#38

Okay. So the -- so you had cash on books of 6,600 in June. So do this -- should we be adding this INR 5,200 to look at how much visibility you have in terms of you can spend over the next few quarters even without, say, bank debt funding? Is that the right way to think about it?

Tejas Mehta

executive
#39

I think largely the right way to think about, which is why we said when we have placed orders of close to INR 9,000 crores or INR 9,100 crores, as Abhijit said, that is also leveraging the opening cash balance that we have in the business.

Saurabh Handa

analyst
#40

Okay. Got it. And my second question is again on M2M. So just to give you some numbers here. So on postpaid, you've reported a growth of 1.8 million subscribers quarter-on-quarter and as per TRAI your M2M subscribers are up by 2 million quarter-on-quarter. So if you subtract M2M, you get a slight dip in postpaid, I think, which is what some of the other participants were also talking about. So are we looking at this the right way? Or is there -- are there some M2M subscribers which are prepaid and not postpaid? I mean we just wanted to understand this better.

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#41

No, I don't think there is any prepaid subscriber as far as the M2M is concerned, they're all postpaid subscriber. It could be a timing gap because there are certain businesses which are the bootstrap business. So that could be the only delta that you could have. Otherwise, as I said, whether it is in the gross acquisition or the net addition, there is no structural challenge that we find in the business.

Operator

operator
#42

Our next question is from the line of Hardik Goyal with Union Mutual Fund.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#43

Sir, my question is -- is there a talk between new and BSNL for tower and infra shedding? And if so, will that be more accretive to your margins than you already mentioned guidance?

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#44

No. I mean, BSB already have Hardik some relationship with BSNL, where we do the tower sharing with BSNL. But that's the 1 that we are doing right now. Other than that, there is no other tower sharing as we speak. .

Operator

operator
#45

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from next question is from the line of Krishan with DAM Capital. .

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#46

Just 1 question from my end. Sir, the ARPU growth that you've reported for the customer ARPU growth, is it possible for you to bifurcate the same between 2G to 4G upgrades between international roaming, prepaid to postpaid. Is that possible?

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#47

Kishan, we normally don't have it, but I can give you a little bit of a flavor on that to say that between a customer who is a 2G to a 4G customer, you typically see an upgrade value of an ARPU of roughly around INR 230 to INR 240. Between unlimited data customer, which is the quota customer, the way we call it, a 1.5 GB customer, when you migrate to a nonstop, which is a truly unlimited you see a delta of INR 20, INR 30 to INR 35. So I think that's the kind of range that can give you a flavor of what's the kind of ARPU arbitral that we have.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#48

Okay and if i may ask...

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#49

Yes. And to add to that, we have a substantial amount of customers who are 2G customers on our network. And that gives us the unique opportunity of really upgrading those customers as and when we are rolling out the network and we are reaching closer to the customers who want to upgrade from the 2G to a 4G network or 5G for that.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#50

Okay. So if I may ask, I mean, so Y-o-Y, the growth in ARPU, what would you think is the is the biggest driver. The 2G to 4G upgrades, would this be the key driving factor in ARPU among other things?

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#51

Yes. I mean it is the -- that's the premiumization that happens that when the customer keeps upgrading themselves. So 1 upgrade is when a 2G customer is upgrading to 4G or a 5G handset. Second upgrade that we see is when you have a smartphone, but you are probably a multi-sim, which means you have 2 or 3 operators sim and when you start using my network only for voice and then you migrate to a data. That's another opportunity for me, and that's again a very significant base for us. And then the third opportunity for us is when you are a data customer but not unlimited or a truly unlimited data customer and when you migrate to that depending upon how your data usage pattern is. So between the 3, we upgrade our customers depending upon which cohort the customers belong to and each of these upgrade cohorts has an ARPU differential, which is where the ARPU buildup happens in absence of any structured price changes.

Operator

operator
#52

Our next question comes from the line of Bhavin Suwandi, individual investor.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#53

Your idea of debts are varying in investor -- is there no chance to go for the equity instead of loans or the improvement of this Vodafone Idea?

Tejas Mehta

executive
#54

Thank you for the question, sir. I think if you look at our balance sheet, sir, there is a lot of equity. In fact, all our investments have been funded by equity. Our debt as we speak, is only INR 3,489 crores. And I think being an infra company there is enough room for debt. And I think you started with this comment saying you are worried, I think Abhijit spoke about the efforts we are on the debt rate. So I think we are confident on that. And hence, at this time, I think we are more focused on debt versus equity.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#55

Okay, sir. So please name the debt and improve the company's balance sheet.

Operator

operator
#56

Our next question comes from the line of Aditya Bansal with Motilal Oswal.

Aditya Bansal

analyst
#57

My first question is around the ARPU again. So would you be able to provide some color in terms of penetration on unlimited data plans and nonstop hero plants in the mix currently? And where would you see this settling out over the medium term?

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#58

So see, Aditya, thanks for asking that question. As I was explaining that we have a pretty large and significant opportunity as far as both these cohorts are concerned whether it is unlimited voice moving united data or unlimited data moving to a nonstop hero. We are upgrading, I would say, almost tune of 3%, 4% customers every quarter on an upgrade basis in this. So that's the flavor that I can at this point in time. That's the whole endeavor on the organic ARPU.

Aditya Bansal

analyst
#59

Any sense on the current mix? Will that we also know like what is the potential there?

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#60

Sorry, can you repeat your question?

Aditya Bansal

analyst
#61

Any idea on the current mix of this unlimited data plan so let we also get an idea like what could be the further potential from here on? .

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#62

Yes. So as I had indicated earlier as well, we have 66% of our customers who are on smartphone between 4G and 5G, and 34% of the customers are on 2G. And that's a big mix that we see. Between the mix of our customers who are on the smartphone, there is a significant amount of customers who are using data and then you still have an opportunity to have a smartphone, but are using us for voice probably in those areas, we have not reached on the 4G data. So that's another big cohort of opportunity that we have.

Aditya Bansal

analyst
#63

Sure. So the second one is on the subscriber trends. So I see there are several divergences this time in terms of trends on be it Vela where we have a decline, customer wireless, again, if I net off the M2M, there is a decline. So what explains the same, like in terms of you're saying like on every circle, you are seeing some bit of improvement versus VLR decline. Any comments on that? .

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#64

See, the only -- there is no -- as I said, Aditya, there's no structural challenge that we see quarter 1 typically is a seasonal quarter where we see some customers migrating that from urban to rural market. And those are some of the markets where we feel that our network probably is still not in there. And that's the only delta that we see at this point in time, there's no structure. So whether it is our gross addition is concerned or the quality of acquisition is concerned or the customer retentivity is concerned, and I'm talking both on postpaid and prepaid. This doesn't seem to be an issue. So this is more a seasonal thing and it will kind of start coming back rather in the month of July, we've already started to see some good traction.

Aditya Bansal

analyst
#65

And lastly, in terms of the site count, can you just reconfirm, you mentioned 3, 3.5 per month? And like what is the medium-term target that we are looking for the 4G sites?

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#66

If you remember in the 3-year guidance, I had said roughly around 55,000, 57,000 sites on 4G and 86,000 to 90,000 sites on 5G. So we are on the trend, we intend to finish our 4G rollout over the next 18 odd months so that we are on what our target is in the 17 circles. And the 5G, as I had said, because you need a little bit of a fiber. So you -- that might get into the third year of execution as well. So we maintain on -- and then stand on that guidance.

Operator

operator
#67

Ladies and gentlemen, we will take that as a last question for today. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Kishore for closing comments. Over to you, sir.

Abhijit Kishore

executive
#68

The defining theme for this quarter is momentum. We have delivered on all the 7 critical business parameters. Each win the building block towards our FY '29 guidance, our 3-year targets are unambiguous sustained net addition, double-digit revenue growth and 3x on the cash EBITDA. We already demonstrated investment continuing across multiple quarters. The continued support from the promoters and our ongoing conversation with various sets of lenders gives us the confidence that we have the financial architecture in place to support our road map. Our path forward is clear and what we are now focused is on execution. Thank you for joining in. We'll meet you again next quarter. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#69

Thank you. On behalf of Vodafone Idea, that concludes this conference. Thank you all for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines.

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