Westwing Group SE (WEW) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 7, 2025
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Operator
operatorGood morning, ladies and gentlemen, and a warm welcome to the Westwing Group SE H1 2025 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] Now dear ladies and gentlemen, let me turn the floor over to your host, Andreas Hoerning.
Andreas Hoerning
executiveGood morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our earnings call on the second quarter of 2025. My name is Andreas Hoerning, I'm the CEO of Westwing. I'm hosting the call together with Sebastian Westrich, our CFO. Looking at today's agenda, I will begin by providing key updates on our business for the second quarter of 2025, after which Sebastian will share the details of Westwing's financial performance. After our investment highlights summary, we will be happy to take your questions. Let's take a look at the current state of Westwing. In Q2, we continue to improve profitability significantly despite a negative top line that developed in line with our expectations. Our GMV declined by 3.6% year-over-year, due to a more premium and smaller product assortment according to our strategy. We do, however, see a positive development in current trading. June GMV grew slightly and this upward trend is strengthening. Hence, we continue to expect a positive second half of 2025. Despite negative scale effects, we improved our adjusted EBITDA by 61% to EUR 6 million at an EBITDA margin of 6.3%. This marks an increase of 2.6 percentage points year-over-year. Free cash flow was negative at minus EUR 5 million in Q2, and we ended the second quarter with a net cash position of EUR 50 million. For the full year 2025, we expect free cash flow to be double-digit positive. Strategically, we are well on track with the implementation of our 3-step value creation plan. Our private label product brand, the Westwing Collection grew 19% year-over-year, which resulted in an all-time high GMV share of 65%. As part of our geographic expansion, we already launched 8 new countries this year, and we continued our store expansion with the recent opening of 2 standalone stores, 1 in Munich and 1 in Berlin. The operational progress is fully in line with our targets, and we can also confirm our financial guidance for 2025 as well as our ambition for 2026, which is the return to a high single to double-digit growth at further improved profitability. As always, let's have a look at our 3-step value creation plan, which we initiated in 2022. In terms of levers, we successfully completed the first 2 phases, the turnaround and strategy update phase and the building of a scalable platform phase. 2025 marks a transition year for us, where we are focusing on the key growth levers of the third phase in order to be able to scale with operating leverage. As in the last earnings call, let me now briefly guide you through our progress across the key levers of first phase of our plan, beginning with the latest development of the Westwing Collection then moving on to how we are strengthening our market share in existing geographies, pushing the premium positioning of our brand; and finally, the progress we've made in terms of international expansion. So starting with the Westwing Collection. The Westwing Collection is our gorgeous sustainable private label product brand, and we continue to be very pleased with its performance. It again delivered strong growth of 19% year-over-year, resulting in an all-time high GMV share of 65%. This strong development supports our top line as well as profitability since the products are very desirable and they allow us to achieve a higher contribution margin compared to third-party products. As we build Europe's Premium one-stop destination for home and living, we're creating a unique product assortment for design lovers, consisting of our own brand, Westwing Collection and the best third-party design brands. We still have significant room for improvement on both sides. As outlined in our last earnings call, besides improvements in product assortment, we see offline store expansion as a lever for share gains in existing markets. For 2025, we are well on track to open 7 off-line stores. In our last earnings call, we told you that in April, we opened a store-in-store as a prestigious department store, Printemps in Paris. This marks our first store expansion outside of Germany. Since then, we successfully opened 2 more standalone stores located in Munich and Berlin. Looking ahead, we will open a standalone store in Cologne and a store-in-store each in Dusseldorf and Copenhagen in the current third quarter of 2025. Before I share an update on our geographic expansion, let me show you some impressions of our new standalone stores in Munich and Berlin. In Munich, which is on the left and we opened the doors to our Westwing warmup store. This is more than just a pop-up. It's a warmup for what's to come. That is our first permanent Westwing store in Munich set to open next 1.5 years of the city. In the meantime, our warmup store already offers design lovers the chance to experience our brand and products in real life. Munich plays a key role for us as a brand not only because of its strong demographics and retail relevance, but also because the Westwing journey started here. As many of our central teams are located in Munich, we generally customer experience learnings even faster than before. On top, we are also very proud to now have a permanent standalone store in Berlin. You can see some impressions on the right-hand side of the slide. It is located on the iconic Kurfürstendamm bringing Westwing to life in the heart of Berlin. Overall, off-line stores help us to further strengthen brand presence and positioning. And by providing a holistic shopping experience across the multi-touch customer journey, Westwing will also gain market share. In Home & Living, many customers [Technical Difficulty] online and off-line experiences in their journey, especially for large furniture purchases. The latter, mostly for the touch and feel and simply because basket sizes in furniture are often very large and require many touch points for conversion. Next topic. In order to further increase our premium brand positioning, we launched an exclusive collaboration with the visionary artist and designer, Harry Nuriev, who is the Creative Director and Founder of Crosby Studios based in Paris. The public was able to discover this exclusive collection at a showroom in Paris for 2 weeks in June, and we received an impressive media response on the collaboration. On the next slide, you can see some impressions of our showroom. The exclusive collection combines Harry Nuriev's experimental design approach with Westwing's curated aesthetic and passion for inspiring design living. It features a curated selection of pieces across furniture, textiles, decor and tabletop that is available as a limited addition to our customers. Overall, this collaboration reflects our broader goal of creating emotionally resonant experiences and redefining what beautiful living means today and tomorrow. Let's move on from gaining market share in existing geographies and increasing our premium brand positioning to entering new markets. At the beginning of the year, we announced our plan to open 5 to 10 new countries in 2025. We've already expanded to 8 new countries so far, Luxembourg, Denmark, Sweden, Croatia, Finland and very recently, Norway and Hungary. At the moment, we are preparing for 2 more country launches this year, Romania and Greece. As outlined in our last earnings call, Geographic expansion allows us to offer our existing global product assortment to customers in the corresponding market segment for design lovers in other countries. This means selling more of the same products. All Continental European countries follow the same logic with low marginal costs of serving them, translations supported by artificial intelligence, onboarding of last-mile delivery providers, local influencer marketing and performance marketing with attractive returns within a few months. Therefore, in the midterm, we aim to be present in approximately all European countries. I now hand over to Sebastian for details on our financial performance.
Sebastian Westrich
executiveThank you, Andreas, and good morning, everyone. I'm Sebastian Westrich, the CFO of Westwing. Let me start with details on our top line. Our GMV declined 4% year-over-year while revenue was at minus 6% year-over-year with the changes to our product assortment being the key driver for this development. The difference in GMV and revenue development is due to the sales event at the end of June, which meant that some orders were delivered in July and therefore, were not recognized as revenue in Q2. As Andreas mentioned in the beginning, we see a positive development in current trading and June GMV grew slightly, and this upward trend strengthened in July. This underpins our confidence that top line performance will improve in the second half of the year. Now let me also briefly comment on Q2 top line development on segment level. DACH segment saw revenue decline of 9%, the International segment's revenue declined by 2%. There are 3 major reasons for this difference in top line development. Firstly, we began introducing a largely global and more premium product assortment and related restructuring of our local business functions in the International segment, as early as Q2 2024, while the DACH segment remained unchanged during that period. As a result, last year's baseline for DACH is stronger than that of the International segment, which is one reason for the difference in year-over-year development. Secondly, the International segment benefited from additional revenue generated by our geographic expansion with 6 new countries launched in the first half of 2025. And thirdly, overall market demand in the DACH segment seemed to be weaker than in the International segment, especially in April and May. Now let me continue with an overview of our profitability development. In Q2, we improved our adjusted EBITDA by EUR 2 million to EUR 6 million, which represents an increase of 61%. To show profitability development on an unadjusted basis after D&A, we also included the EBIT development on the right side of the slide. It is also clearly positive at EUR 2 million and showed an even greater increase of EUR 5 million year-over-year. The higher increase compared to adjusted EBITDA is primarily driven by lower G&A expenses as all technology assets have been fully depreciated with the successful go-live of our SaaS-based tech platform at the end of 2024, and we were also able to reduce lease payments. Let us now take a look at our P&L margins and focus on the development in the second quarter of 2025, which you can see here on the right-hand side. I am pleased to report that we improved our P&L margin structure in almost all areas, leading to a strong improvement in adjusted EBITDA margin by 2.6 percentage points year-over-year to 6.3%. Our gross margin improved by 2.1 percentage points year-over-year mainly due to strong Westwing Collection share gains. The fulfillment ratio improved by 0.9 percentage points year-over-year leading to an increase in contribution margin of 2.9 percentage points in Q2 to 33.5%, a really strong result. Regarding contribution margin, I would like to highlight that the corresponding contribution profit per order continued to increase significantly by 40% year-over-year. Our marketing ratio increased by 0.6 percentage points year-over-year to minus 13.2%. Reasons for the increase include investments into country expansion as well as brand and store investments. Our G&A ratio, which also includes other results, improved by 1.5 percentage points to minus 18%, reflecting the positive effects from our 2024 complexity reduction measures. This led to an adjusted EBIT margin of 2.3% in Q2, up 3.8 percentage points year-over-year. G&A decreased by 1.2 percentage points year-over-year primarily driven by the full depreciation of legacy tech assets, which I mentioned on the previous slide. Overall, our Q2 adjusted EBITDA margin improved by 2.6 percentage points year-over-year to 6.3%. I want to highlight that we realize these improvements despite the decline in revenue, which means that we overcompensated for negative scale effects. While our adjusted EBITDA is our main profitability KPI, I also want to mention our net result. With a positive net result of EUR 2 million in the second quarter and now 3 positive quarters in a row, we are proving that our company is turning to real profitability. As expected, the adjustments made in Q2 were minor. An overview of these adjustments as well as the unadjusted consolidated income statements can be found in the appendix to this presentation and in our financial half year report. Let's move on to profitability on segment level. In Q2, which is displayed on the right side of the slide, we saw a strong improvement in adjusted EBITDA margin in both segments. In the DACH segment, adjusted EBITDA margin improved by 2.1 percentage points year-over-year to 6.5%. The International segment improved its adjusted EBITDA margin by 3.6 percentage points year-over-year to 6.1%. The improvement in profitability reflects the successful implementation of our 3-step value creation plans across both segments. Those of you who listened to our last earnings call also our Q1 2025 results presentation, you might remember our chart that shows the positive development of our adjusted EBITDA margin since 2022, with an improvement of 10 percentage points since we started our 3-step value creation plan. Today, I would like to highlight another metric that clearly shows the tangible and very positive outcome of our business transformation. This is the development of earnings per share on a last 12-month basis. We show earnings per share, both on an adjusted and unadjusted basis. Adjustments include the reported adjustments of restructuring expenses as well as impact from share-based payment obligations. The chart shows a clearly positive trend since Q2 2024. In Q2 2025, we were able to report for the first time outside of peak over times positive earnings per share on an unadjusted last 12-month basis. In addition to 3 consecutive quarters of positive net results, the impact of our substantial share buyback at the end of 2024 is also clearly visible. As a remark, the average number of shares in circulation, which is displayed on this slide is the number of issued shares minus our treasury shares. We believe this is the strongest testament to the success of our strategy and its implementation so far. We promised we will solve for profitability first and at the same time build the foundation for significant growth and further margin increase in the third phase of our value creation plan. That's exactly what we are delivering. Let us now move from profitability to our balance sheet and take a look at our net working capital. By the end of Q2, net working capital was at EUR 5 million. The year-over-year increase was mainly driven by the reduction in trade payables following the inventory increase, especially for new product launches during the first half of the year that we already mentioned in our last earnings call. Inventory is expected to decline towards the end of the year, positively impacting both net working capital and cash flow. As a result, we anticipate net working capital to return to a negative territory in the second half of 2025. On the next slide, you see CapEx and CapEx ratio for the first half of the year compared to the same period in 2024. CapEx year-over-year remained flat at EUR 4 million. However, when comparing the first half of 2025 with the first half of 2024, we see a shift between investments into property, plant and equipment and intangible assets. This is mainly due to the fact that we were investing in several new stores in the first half of 2025 with only 1 store opening in the same period of 2024. At the same time, we were able to reduce CapEx for internally developed tech assets as we move to our SaaS-based tech platform. With CapEx of EUR 4 million in the first half of 2025, which equals a CapEx ratio of 2% of revenue, we kept CapEx at a very healthy level. Let us now take a look at our net cash position. In terms of net cash, we are pleased to report a strong net cash balance sheet position of EUR 50 million at the end of June, which is EUR 7 million less compared to the end of March. Overall, free cash flow was at minus EUR 5 million in Q2 with approximately EUR 2 million related to the exercise of employee stock options and an impact of minus EUR 8 million from changes in net working capital, which I mentioned earlier. With the lease payments of EUR 3 million, we had a negative free cash flow after lease payments of minus EUR 7 million. Our balance sheet remains strong with no debt other than the IFRS 16 lease obligations. As Andreas mentioned earlier, we are confident to enable double-digit free cash flow for the full year 2025, driven by both profitability and net working capital. Given our seasonality, Q4 is expected to be the strongest quarter. On the next slide, I'll comment on the financial guidance for 2025, which we published at the end of March. Our performance in the second quarter and first half of 2025 in terms of both revenue and profitability, is fully in line with our guidance. In terms of top line, we had, as expected, headwinds from our changes in the product assortment. These negative effects are expected to ease towards the end of 2025. We already saw a slight growth in June, and this upward trend strengthened in July. In terms of profitability, we expect a typical seasonal development in 2025 with peaks in Q1 and Q4. Please also keep in mind that the first half of the year has seen only minor ramp-up costs for expansion. Related ramp-up costs will increase as we open additional stores and scale up the new countries in the second half. To summarize, we are well on track to deliver on our 2025 guidance in terms of revenue and profitability and also in terms of a clearly positive double-digit free cash flow. This brings me to our midterm outlook, which was shared for the first time in our full year 2024 earnings call. I want to highlight again that our ambition is to return to significant growth in 2026 by continuously improving profitability. Significant growth means a high single to double-digit growth rate, driven by our expansion initiatives and the anticipated easing of negative impacts from the product assortment changes towards the end of 2025. In terms of profitability, we expect scale effects as we grow as well as positive effects from our improving product assortment. We remain focused on executing our 3-step value creation plan with a clear goal of driving sustained improvements in profitability and cash flow. Combined with our return to meaningful growth, this positions us to unlock the full value potential of Westwing. With that, I'm handing over to Andreas to conclude our presentation with our investment highlights.
Andreas Hoerning
executiveThank you, Sebastian. Let me briefly recap our investment highlights. First, we have a unique, relevant customer value proposition through the specific assortment and the way we serve our customers. Second, the market potential is huge, especially in our existing geographies, but also beyond. Third, we are developing the super brand in design with high loyalty and true potential to grow further. Fourth, we have high and increasing margins as well as operating leverage while we scale. Fifth, we have a great balance sheet with a strong cash position and no debt, strong net working capital and low CapEx. All of this will lead us in the midterm to 10%-plus adjusted EBITDA with a continued strong cash conversion. Sebastian and I are now happy to take your questions.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] The first question is from Volker Bosse, Baader Bank.
Volker Bosse
analystIt's Volker speaking from Baader Bank. First, congratulations to the great earnings improvements. However, my question is more on the sales trend. I mean in DACH region as well as in active customers, there was even a sharper decline in second quarter than first quarter. Although the German online market was quite healthy up according to BEVH figure, so could you explain why the -- I mean you guided for a decline in sales and customers, but why there was even an acceleration in decline in Q2 versus Q1? That would be my first question. And the second question, you had some openings already. I mean Munich is still too early, but Leipzig, Stuttgart you are some weeks, some months live now. Are there any initial learnings from the store openings, which influences your openings, which are to come? And third question would be on current trading. You said something about July that makes you positive on the second half. Perhaps for clarification, what drives your confidence to improve sales in the second half? And what did you say in July, again, please?
Andreas Hoerning
executiveThank you, Volker, for your questions, and thank you for your feedback on the performance. Sebastian will be taking your questions on the sales and in DACH and customer -- active customers as well as on the current trading. And before I hand over to him, let me briefly comment on your question on store openings because you were asking about the learnings from the recent store openings. So the learnings, to be honest, so far, are simply that customers actually really enjoy this additional offering that we provide to them because interacting with our branded physically in the stores, experiencing the products, this is something that we continue to see that it delights our customers. In terms of numbers, it is too early at this point in time to really comment on this. The openings of this year, they actually -- they will provide over the next, say, 6 to 12 to 18 months for real learnings for us. And it's on a slightly -- it's on a higher scale than what we had beforehand with only Hamburg and Stuttgart. So over the next 6 to 12 to 18 months, we will really generate learnings from this, and we will also report on the learnings in our earnings calls as we have them, and then we share them with you.
Volker Bosse
analystSorry to further follow-up on that. When you said customers are delighted, why you say so? I mean do you see there is more website traffic than in the catchment area of the store? I mean do you have this granularity to track, so to say, the awareness success in -- of customers in the area or why you say so? I mean it's just -- help please.
Andreas Hoerning
executiveSo yes, we also -- so we track all sorts of numbers on store sales. So we -- obviously, the ones that are placed in the store that we generate directly there, also the ones that are generated via scanning of QR codes and what we also do is we track the sales in the catchment area. On the very short term, let's say, on a few weeks, it is very difficult to really single out the effect of a store opening in a catchment area. There's so many other effects. For instance, the weather has a very strong effect on sales, online sales. We saw this over the past few weeks. We actually had bad weather in Germany, and now it's improving. And you can see these things in online sales. So it's very difficult to single this out on a kind of a basis of a few weeks. What we have seen in the past and continue to see is a general uplift in catchment area for the cities where we actually have stores. So Hamburg and Stuttgart this was -- has been since the beginning and has been prominent, and that's why this is an additional source of confidence for us that stores make sense and that customers actually react very positively to that. So that's the brand effect, if you like, of the stores. On the new ones, it's too early to tell also on that, but we will report on it as soon as the numbers show that we actually have meaningful results there. With that, I'm handing over to Sebastian for DACH portion and current trading.
Sebastian Westrich
executiveThanks for your questions. The first on the sales trend in DACH and overall customer -- active customer development. So maybe first starting with the active customer development. The trend that we see is due to the same reasons that we shared during the last earnings call. As we started to change our product assortment last year, moving to a mostly global, more premium, also smaller product assortment, we do not target certain customer groups anymore. This is why the number of active customers declined. And as we rolled out the changes in the assortment, starting in Q2 2024 with the the city of Spain and later on moving on to CEE and then also making changes to the remaining countries, you see this trend continuing so far. And this, of course, also has been -- or leads to the negative implications on top line that we are also commenting our goals. Now as I look on the DACH segment, as I mentioned already during the earnings call, the baseline 2024 for DACH was quite strong as we did not have any changes to the product assortment back then while the International segment already faced some changes, and we also restructured our local business in Italy and Spain at that time. So baseline for DACH segment in Q2 is stronger compared to International. And your comment on the overall market development, e-commerce market development in Germany. Actually, we don't really see this. We see that competitors also report actually negative revenue development for the German market in Home & Living. And we know that market searches then Germany have declined significantly in Q2. So it's also a clear sign that at least the Home & Living sector did not pick up in Q2. So that's why we actually expect that weaker consumer sentiment had also additional negative impact on our DACH segment performance in Q2 year-over-year. So this would be my answer to your first question, Volker. If you have any additional questions on this otherwise, I would continue with the current trading.
Volker Bosse
analystPlease go on to current trading.
Sebastian Westrich
executiveWith regard to the question on current trading and what makes us confident, so as mentioned, we see upward trend since June and July also was growing. And we expect that towards the end of the year, the negative impact from our changes in the assortment will ease. So growth year-over-year becomes easier. And Andreas reported on our expansion measures, both meaning check-ins in existing markets, but also then the expansion to new geographies and the impact of our expansion measures will become bigger in the second half of the year. So overall, we expect that with our strategy, and this will be a recovery of top line in the second half.
Volker Bosse
analystRecovery of top line in the second half means the minus is getting smaller, so to say? Or do you expect it to turn it into positive sales growth territories again that you're saying?
Sebastian Westrich
executiveWe expect that in the second half of the year, we should get into a positive territory. Our guidance is minus EUR 4 million to plus EUR 2 million, so we do not expect at the moment a super, super strong second half of the year. So we are in line with our guidance, and we expect that this will turn to positive development in the second half.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Henry Wendisch of NuWays.
Henry Wendisch
analystThis is Henry from NuWays. And first of all, congrats on the very strong margin improvement. It's nice to see sort of that even with declining sales, operating leverage can still be pursued or performed. This is quite an astonishing thing to see here. But this brings me directly to my question. Regarding maybe more on a global level, your free cash flow, you say you're enabling double-digit positive free cash flow for this year. And with growth kicking in next year, we have operating leverage more and then also very high -- or probably higher positive free cash flows in 2026. But this brings us to a sort of sweet and sour situation because I find it hard to -- or hard to find options for you to what to do with the free cash flow. So in my view, yes, debt repayment is not an issue, obviously. The buyback -- you are at 10% old shares, you cannot do buyback dividends. I don't see this coming as well, given the negative retained earnings still. And CapEx is not something that is in your business model, something you need to do. So what -- maybe how can we think of what you're going to do with free cash flows in the future if you're now returning to free cash flows on a higher level?
Andreas Hoerning
executiveThank you, Henry. Thanks for the feedback. Handing over to Sebastian for your question on free cash flow in the future and what to do with it.
Sebastian Westrich
executiveHenry, thanks for your question. It's, of course, an important question, and of course, an important topic for us. It's a bit early to comment already on this, but of course, we have to also come up with a good strategy for capital application going forward. So we will comment on this later in time.
Operator
operatorAt the moment, there are no further questions in the queue. [Operator Instructions] There's a question from Benedict [indiscernible] of [indiscernible].
Unknown Analyst
analystYes, hello also from my side, very nice results. Maybe you can also expand on the geographic expansion a little bit more. Where do you see the cost increases coming from in the second half of the year and what are you seeing at the moment for these expansions? I mean it's already a little bit early, but do you have any recognitions from these expansions into new markets that you're seeing?
Andreas Hoerning
executiveThanks a lot, Benedict. Thanks for the feedback. Handing over to Sebastian.
Sebastian Westrich
executiveSo with regard to the cost related to our geographic expansion, the main cost related to marketing expenses, as we always said that we will have a very lean approach to country expansion. That means marketing expenses will be the main driver and as you enter market, typically marketing efficiency is lower compared to mature markets, as you have to build up a customer base there. And that's the main cost related to market expansion. Then there are some minor costs related to it in other areas, but marketing is the most important cost associated with this. And in terms of first results, we are really happy so far with the development both in terms of the operational setup and the speed in which we are able to enter new markets. So it's really -- we are now in August, and we have brought 8 countries live this year. I think this is really a great achievement of our team here at Westwing. And also the first indications from the top line development of new countries, also in line with our expectation is promising. So we think that we are very well on track with our geographic expansion.
Operator
operatorNext, we have a follow-up from Volker Bosse of Baader Bank.
Volker Bosse
analystIt's Volker from Baader Bank again. As we have some time, obviously, I would come up with another question on your decent international portfolio. I mean you are trying to break out single countries. However, are there any highlights, lowlights, worth to mention, especially Italy and Spain, where you have -- where you run through quite sharp restructuring with shutting down headquarters, streamlining assortments. Has the negative effect of these restructuring bottomed out or annualized? How do you see sales trend after you have done these -- all these measures, which, of course, not help the International business in the past, but -- yes, how is it going in the moment?
Andreas Hoerning
executiveThank you, Volker, for the question. Very relevant one. And obviously, this is something that we needed to plan and understand in order to also come up with the top line expectation of first half versus second half of this year. Specifically on Italy and Spain, which you are asking about, we do see that situation has much improved. And it is actually -- so the changes that we made to a global assortment, the restructuring of the countries also, the offices and warehouses, this took place mainly in Q2 last year. So that's why when you now look at a year-over-year basis on the results in Italy and Spain, it actually turned around kind of over the last 1, 2 months, especially in Italy where we actually see promising results now. And this is clearly the bottoming out or ending of the baseline effect from this restructuring and the move to a global product assortment. In Spain, we also see this to a bit lesser extent because [Technical Difficulty] product assortment and positioning in Spain was a bit stronger even than in Italy. So that's why in Spain, we don't see the full recovery yet, but it's the same trajectory or the same [indiscernible]. Does that answer your question, Volker?
Volker Bosse
analystYes, absolutely. That's encouraging signs.
Operator
operatorAs there are no more questions in the queue, I'm handing the floor back over to Andreas Hoerning.
Andreas Hoerning
executiveThank you. As we haven't received any additional questions, we are ending today's earnings call. Thank you for joining, and goodbye.
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