WH Group Limited (288) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 28, 2026

SEHK HK Consumer Staples Food Products earnings 106 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Unknown Executive

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Okay. Good evening, friends from the -- welcome to WH Group's conference call for the announcement of our results for the first half of 2026. This is Guo Lijun, Executive Director and Chief Executive of WH Group. Joining today's results announcement are members of the management team from WH Group and from our subsidiary, Shuanghui Development, Smithfield Foods and Morliny Foods in Europe, namely Mr. Wan Long, Chairman of the Board and Executive Director of WH Group; Mr. Wan Hongwei, Vice Chairman of the Board of WH Group and Chairman of Shuanghui Development; Mr. Ma Xiangjie, Executive Director of WH Group and President of Shuanghui Development; Mr. [ Luzon Tao ], Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Shuanghui Development; Shane, President and Chief Executive -- Luis, Chief Executive Officer of Morliny Foods; Ms. Kamjin Yan, Chief Financial Officer of the company; and Zhou Xiaoming, Vice President of the company. Today's announcement is divided into 2 parts. We will first present the company's financial and operating performance for the first half of the year, and we'll then take your questions. For the first half 2026, package mid sold is 1.522 million metric tons. Pork sold 2.079 million metric tons year-over-year growth of 6.1%. Revenue USD 13.827 billion, 3.3% higher than last year. EBITDA, $1.681 billion, 6.1% higher than last year. Operating profit $1.231 billion, 2.2% decline compared to last year. Profit before tax, $1.221 billion, 6.2% higher than last year. Profit for the period, $947 million, 10.5% higher than last year. Profit attributable to the owners of the company, $773 million. 6% higher than last year. Basic earnings per share USD 6. 02. The Board has also declared an interest dividend per share of HKD 0.2. Total amount would be roughly USD [ 330 ] million. Despite a challenging operating environment, we have achieved robust performance with growth in both revenue and volumes. Looking at the business segments. Package made is still our core business contributing to 51.3% of our revenue and 89.4% of our operating profit. Pork business is also our major business contributing to 39.1% of our revenue and 14.3% of our operating profit. Other business and contribute to 9.6% of revenue and a loss of $45 million. From a region perspective, North America contributes to more than 50% of our revenue, which is 52.9% in the first half. China business was 30.5% and contributed to 36.8% of the operating profit. European business contributed to 16.6% of revenue and 9.7% of the operating profit. In the first half, the global economic growth moderated geopolitical conflicts elevated trade tensions continued and policy environment remain uncertain. China saw heart continue to reduce, while productivity improved. Abundant supply caused the hard price to decline sharply year-over-year. U.S. pork supply increased price dropped year-over-year. Feed cost was favorable due to lower grain prices. Hog production remained profitable. However, Fresh Pork faced the challenges from narrowing market spread. In Europe, animal disease export restrictions resulted in pork oversupply inside European Union. Hog price dropped significantly pressuring upstream pork operations. WH Group leveraged our global platform and the value chain, promoted efficiency improvement cost savings, optimize the business structure, continued with pricing mix and control strategy, achieving the growth in volume, while the operating profit decreased slightly. Packaged meat as the core business saw growth in both volume and profits. In the first half, the number of slaughter hogs in China increased by 1.7% to 372.46 million hogs. The number of slaughter hogs in the U.S. decreased by 0.5% to 63.08 million hogs. From a pricing perspective, the prices dropped in all the regions. In China, the average hog price was RMB 11.2 per kilogram, down 27.5% year-over-year. U.S. average hog price was USD 1.48, down 1.5% year-over-year. European average hog price was per kilogram, down 20% year-over-year. In the U.S. in the first half, the average pork carat value was USD 2.13 per kilogram, a decrease of 2.2% year-over-year. The market spread narrowed due to port price decreased more than high price. So the spread has narrowed. In China, the operating profit was $454 million, 4.4% higher than last year. Packaged meats $458 million, 11.4% higher than last year. Pork business is a loss of $7 million and year-over-year decline by $35 million. In China, we captured market opportunities, achieved growth both in volume and profit mid-and packaged meat products external sales volume reached a record high. In packaged meats, we continue to deepen professional reformation stepped up investment in the market improve the customer service quality, continue the price mix optimization and cost control strategy adapted to changes in the consumption trends, volume increased while unit profit remained at a high level. In Pork business, it captured market opportunities, expanded customer base, harvest volume achieved a significant growth Fresh pork profit under pressure due to severe competition, hog production faced challenges driven by weak car price. In poultry, it continued to expand its scale poultry production, KPI improved while raising costs reduced. Fresh poultry optimize the product mix, expand the network and enhance the competitiveness, total poultry operations improved significantly. In terms of digitalization, we continue to deepen digitalization deployed extensively in production, sales, animal production and internal management, empowering the company to achieve high-quality development. In North America, first half operating profit was $658 million, 2.5% lower than last year. Packaged meats, $545 million, 4.2% lower than last year. Pork, $182 million, 11.7% higher than last year. In the North America, we leverage integrated business model focused on cost efficiency. Operating profit was stable, while net income achieved a record high. In U.S. packaged meat, we leveraged breadth of product portfolio and a channel volume remains stable. We continued the pricing mix optimization and cost control strategy making raw material cost inflation, profitability maintained at high level. in U.S. pork, the hog production benefit from favorable markets and effective hedging strategy. Results improved significantly year-over-year. fresh pork profit dropped due to narrower market spread. Total U.S. pork profit maintained growth. In Mexico, how price dropped, while volume the volume increased profit achieved growth year-over-year. In Europe, in the first half, operating profit was $119 million, 20.1% lower than last year. Packaged meat, $97 million, 44.8% higher than last year. Pork profit, $1 million year-over-year decline by $63 million. In Europe, amid unfavorable market conditions, we continue to integrate synergistic M&As, maintain volume growth, packaged meat and poultry performance continued to improve. New M&A contribute to volume growth. Operating profit increased significantly year-over-year due to lower raw material costs and pricing discipline. Hog price dropped sharply due to animal disease as well as export restrictions, Pork business faced the challenges and the performance was under pressure. Broiler price dropped poultry business grew both in scale and profit. In terms of M&As, we further expanded the business footprint and increase the product offerings. We completed acquisition of Wolf Group, a leading German producer of premium sausages, convenient and ready meals. In terms of business strategies, WH Group will continue to consolidate global resources, leverage synergies adhere to the business philosophy of improved mix, adjust price and control costs and the strategy of industrialization, diversification, globalization and digitalization to enhance our leading position in the global meat industry. In terms of business priorities, we will focus on the following to lay a solid foundation for the long-term sustainable development. Number one, first, enhance the port business, optimized cost structure, improve had production performance, grow fresh pork and strengthen competitiveness. For packaged meats, further optimize the product portfolio, expand the customer network and maintain steady growth in scale and profit. Number three, continuously optimize the pork value chain steadily promote meat diversification, enhanced global footprint and strengthen overall competitiveness. Number four, promote automation and artificial intelligence across the organization, drive digitalization upgrades to improve quality, cost and efficiency. So that's all from the business review. And now we'll move on to the Q&A.

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[Interpreted] So the question from Min Bao. The first one relates to the impact of the Middle East conflict on the cost structure of the company. Has that impact on the company's cost structure? And what will be the impact in the second half? And the second question relates to the trade tensions between China and U.S., China and Europe? What has been the impact of these 3 tensions on the company's performance in the first half and what are the expected impact on the performance in the second half and what mitigation measures can the company take to address these trade tensions?

Unknown Executive

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[Interpreted] In terms of the first question, since the conflict but broke in end of February and early March, the crude oil prices has increased sharply and has remained at relatively high levels. So that has indeed caused.

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Lijun Guo

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So the answer was from Guo Lijun, the CEO of WH Group. And the elevated crude oil prices if continues will impact the company's transportation costs, fuel costs and the packaging material cost. But overall, the impact is not material considering the scale of the company's operations. And the company also will also take a lot of measures to try to mitigate the increased input costs in relation to the fuels.

Lijun Guo

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[Interpreted] In recent years, indeed, because of the trade tensions, there has been tariffs against many products, including pork in China, the tariff against the book import from Europe and U.S. has increased significantly compared to a few years ago. And on the other hand, the hog prices and pork prices in China are very low. It has caused challenges for importing U.S. pork into China. And in light of the elevated China -- the tariff against the U.S. imports imported pork into China. We are taking a few measures number one, because the tariff against U.S. pork is 47%. So we are focusing importing more of products. from U.S. And for these offer products, we also try to improve the quality and so that we can expand its exports. And secondly, we are also exploring more channels for U.S. pork export into other countries such as Mexico, Japan, Korea, And number three, in China, we are also exploring more importing channels to try to obtain high-quality products at competitive pricing, new channels, including Europe as well as in South America.

Lijun Guo

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[Interpreted] So that concludes Gordon's question -- answers.

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The question relates to the forecast for the second half. In the second half, we will continue to face challenges due to weak consumer demand, inflation pressures, commodity market volatility competition in the market as well as the uncertainties of the policy environment, as we described with respect to the tariffs. So from the company's perspective, we are focusing on optimizing our product mix focusing our core strengths and leverage the advantage of our vertically integrated business model and try to deliver stable and good results to create long-term shareholder values.

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[Interpreted] And further elaboration on product mix optimization. So by product mix optimization, we try to adapt to the consumer demand and consumption trends. For example, in China's K-shaped economy, we try to develop both high-end and premium products as well as mid- to low-end value-for-money products to better serve our customers and to also achieve higher volume as well as maintain a good profit.

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[Interpreted] In terms of payout ratios, our policy -- dividend policy is no less than 50% of net profit attributable to the owners of the company. And for the first half, the Board has declared a dividend of HKD 0.20, which is flat, same as last year.

Unknown Analyst

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[Interpreted] First, to review the performance of the global pork business in the first half, the operating profits of port business in China declined year-over-year in Europe also declined year-over-year. But in U.S., actually increased compared to last year. in the first half across the world, the hog prices has decreased. The pork prices also decreased. In China, the hog prices on average has decreased by 28% compared to last year. In European Union, price decreased by 20% compared to last year. The substantial drop in the European hog price is really driven by weak consumer demand as well as the export restrictions as well as a result of the outbreak of animal diseases. Do you call it industries.

Lijun Guo

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[Interpreted] And the performance of China pork business as well as the China market competitive dynamics. In terms of market competitive dynamics, there has been changes in the dynamics in China in the last few years. In the past, the fresh pork industry are primarily dominated by some smaller fragmented slaughtering houses. But in the last few years, because a lot of the large-scale hog production companies are entering into the slaughtering business, these large industrialized players are more aggressive in expanding market shares. So the market becomes more competitive. In the past, we're primarily competing against the small players, but now we have many more large-scale competitors. So that has resulted in industry level compression of gross margins. And for our China business, it has also been impacted -- negatively impacted by the reduced volume and profit from import imported meat as a result of the trade tensions.

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[Interpreted] And in the future, we expect this trend will continue and the industry consolidation will continue. In the past, there are a lot of large there are a lot of smaller companies. But in the future, there will be fewer but larger companies. So in light of this evolution, we will focusing on expanding our scale while maintaining stable profits. We'll also try to expand our market shares to participate in the market competition.

Unknown Analyst

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#28

[Interpreted] And for market share expansion for pork business, it is our major business. We'll continue to optimize the port business and also to expand its market share across the globe. For packaged meat business is our core business, and we will optimize the product mix, optimize the pricing of our products and also to control cost to achieve expansion of market shares.

Unknown Analyst

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#29

[Foreign Language]. [Interpreted] And in China, in terms of product pricing in China, we do not expect any material changes in pricing, particularly in the second half as the hog prices and other raw material costs are not expected to have a significant movement. In U.S. and Europe, we obviously will adjust our pricing according to competition, according to raw material costs, but we also will maintain our pricing discipline to try to reduce the volatility in our prices and try to capture more profits. .

Unknown Executive

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[Interpreted] And we will also adapting to the market demand to optimize our product mix. to by -- through product mix improvement to gradually enhance our pricing.

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[Interpreted] And as there's no additional questions, we can conclude today's media presentation. Thank you all.Okay. Good evening, friends from the -- welcome to WH Group's conference call for the announcement of our results for the first half of 2026. This is Guo Lijun, Executive Director and Chief Executive of WH Group. Joining today's results announcement are members of the management team from WH Group and from our subsidiary, Shuanghui Development, Smithfield Foods and Morliny Foods in Europe, namely Mr. Wan Long, Chairman of the Board and Executive Director of WH Group; Mr. Wan Hongwei, Vice Chairman of the Board of WH Group and Chairman of Shuanghui Development; Mr. Ma Xiangjie, Executive Director of WH Group and President of Shuanghui Development; Mr. [ Luzon Tao ], Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Shuanghui Development; Shane, President and Chief Executive -- Luis, Chief Executive Officer of Morliny Foods; Ms. Kamjin Yan, Chief Financial Officer of the company; and Zhou Xiaoming, Vice President of the company. Today's announcement is divided into 2 parts. We will first present the company's financial and operating performance for the first half of the year, and we'll then take your questions. For the first half 2026, package mid sold is 1.522 million metric tons. Pork sold 2.079 million metric tons year-over-year growth of 6.1%. Revenue USD 13.827 billion, 3.3% higher than last year. EBITDA, $1.681 billion, 6.1% higher than last year. Operating profit $1.231 billion, 2.2% decline compared to last year. Profit before tax, $1.221 billion, 6.2% higher than last year. Profit for the period, $947 million, 10.5% higher than last year. Profit attributable to the owners of the company, $773 million. 6% higher than last year. Basic earnings per share USD 6. 02. The Board has also declared an interest dividend per share of HKD 0.2. Total amount would be roughly USD [ 330 ] million. Despite a challenging operating environment, we have achieved robust performance with growth in both revenue and volumes. Looking at the business segments. Package made is still our core business contributing to 51.3% of our revenue and 89.4% of our operating profit. Pork business is also our major business contributing to 39.1% of our revenue and 14.3% of our operating profit. Other business and contribute to 9.6% of revenue and a loss of $45 million. From a region perspective, North America contributes to more than 50% of our revenue, which is 52.9% in the first half. China business was 30.5% and contributed to 36.8% of the operating profit. European business contributed to 16.6% of revenue and 9.7% of the operating profit. In the first half, the global economic growth moderated geopolitical conflicts elevated trade tensions continued and policy environment remain uncertain. China saw heart continue to reduce, while productivity improved. Abundant supply caused the hard price to decline sharply year-over-year. U.S. pork supply increased price dropped year-over-year. Feed cost was favorable due to lower grain prices. Hog production remained profitable. However, Fresh Pork faced the challenges from narrowing market spread. In Europe, animal disease export restrictions resulted in pork oversupply inside European Union. Hog price dropped significantly pressuring upstream pork operations. WH Group leveraged our global platform and the value chain, promoted efficiency improvement cost savings, optimize the business structure, continued with pricing mix and control strategy, achieving the growth in volume, while the operating profit decreased slightly. Packaged meat as the core business saw growth in both volume and profits. In the first half, the number of slaughter hogs in China increased by 1.7% to 372.46 million hogs. The number of slaughter hogs in the U.S. decreased by 0.5% to 63.08 million hogs. From a pricing perspective, the prices dropped in all the regions. In China, the average hog price was RMB 11.2 per kilogram, down 27.5% year-over-year. U.S. average hog price was USD 1.48, down 1.5% year-over-year. European average hog price was per kilogram, down 20% year-over-year. In the U.S. in the first half, the average pork carat value was USD 2.13 per kilogram, a decrease of 2.2% year-over-year. The market spread narrowed due to port price decreased more than high price. So the spread has narrowed. In China, the operating profit was $454 million, 4.4% higher than last year. Packaged meats $458 million, 11.4% higher than last year. Pork business is a loss of $7 million and year-over-year decline by $35 million. In China, we captured market opportunities, achieved growth both in volume and profit mid-and packaged meat products external sales volume reached a record high. In packaged meats, we continue to deepen professional reformation stepped up investment in the market improve the customer service quality, continue the price mix optimization and cost control strategy adapted to changes in the consumption trends, volume increased while unit profit remained at a high level. In Pork business, it captured market opportunities, expanded customer base, harvest volume achieved a significant growth Fresh pork profit under pressure due to severe competition, hog production faced challenges driven by weak car price. In poultry, it continued to expand its scale poultry production, KPI improved while raising costs reduced. Fresh poultry optimize the product mix, expand the network and enhance the competitiveness, total poultry operations improved significantly. In terms of digitalization, we continue to deepen digitalization deployed extensively in production, sales, animal production and internal management, empowering the company to achieve high-quality development. In North America, first half operating profit was $658 million, 2.5% lower than last year. Packaged meats, $545 million, 4.2% lower than last year. Pork, $182 million, 11.7% higher than last year. In the North America, we leverage integrated business model focused on cost efficiency. Operating profit was stable, while net income achieved a record high. In U.S. packaged meat, we leveraged breadth of product portfolio and a channel volume remains stable. We continued the pricing mix optimization and cost control strategy making raw material cost inflation, profitability maintained at high level. in U.S. pork, the hog production benefit from favorable markets and effective hedging strategy. Results improved significantly year-over-year. fresh pork profit dropped due to narrower market spread. Total U.S. pork profit maintained growth. In Mexico, how price dropped, while volume the volume increased profit achieved growth year-over-year. In Europe, in the first half, operating profit was $119 million, 20.1% lower than last year. Packaged meat, $97 million, 44.8% higher than last year. Pork profit, $1 million year-over-year decline by $63 million. In Europe, amid unfavorable market conditions, we continue to integrate synergistic M&As, maintain volume growth, packaged meat and poultry performance continued to improve. New M&A contribute to volume growth. Operating profit increased significantly year-over-year due to lower raw material costs and pricing discipline. Hog price dropped sharply due to animal disease as well as export restrictions, Pork business faced the challenges and the performance was under pressure. Broiler price dropped poultry business grew both in scale and profit. In terms of M&As, we further expanded the business footprint and increase the product offerings. We completed acquisition of Wolf Group, a leading German producer of premium sausages, convenient and ready meals. In terms of business strategies, WH Group will continue to consolidate global resources, leverage synergies adhere to the business philosophy of improved mix, adjust price and control costs and the strategy of industrialization, diversification, globalization and digitalization to enhance our leading position in the global meat industry. In terms of business priorities, we will focus on the following to lay a solid foundation for the long-term sustainable development. Number one, first, enhance the port business, optimized cost structure, improve had production performance, grow fresh pork and strengthen competitiveness. For packaged meats, further optimize the product portfolio, expand the customer network and maintain steady growth in scale and profit. Number three, continuously optimize the pork value chain steadily promote meat diversification, enhanced global footprint and strengthen overall competitiveness. Number four, promote automation and artificial intelligence across the organization, drive digitalization upgrades to improve quality, cost and efficiency. So that's all from the business review. And now we'll move on to the Q&A.

Unknown Executive

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#35

[Interpreted] So 2 questions from Lao Chen from BofA Securities. First one relates to China packaged meat business. The second quarter profit per ton in packaged meat business has dropped significantly compared to last year. And based on his calculation, it's roughly RMB 4,000 per metric tons. But on the other hand, the volume growth was not very high. So what's the reasons behind the sharp drop in profit per ton, but relatively moderate growth in volumes? And what's the outlook of volume and profit per ton in the second half. Second question relates to dividends. Historically, Shanghai has a track record of paying interim dividend. But for this half, Change has not declared interim dividend, what's the reasons? And what are the reasons? And what's the outlook for the full year dividend from Shuanghui. And given the challenges in the operations, is it possible to still achieve a flat dividend payout compared to last year for Shuanghui? And for WH Group, we are pleased to see that tables continue to declare an interim dividend. But what would be the outlook given double cash flows are largely from the -- the dividends of the subsidiaries. And will WH Group be able to maintain the dividend per share in -- for the full year?

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[Interpreted] The first question from Mr. Mark, CEO of Shuanghui Development. The second quarter per ton for packaged meats dropped by CNY 500 per tonne. For the first half, the decrease was RMB 150 per tonne. So there are a few reasons behind the drop in profit per ton. Number one is the -- we have taken various initiatives we have adopted various initiatives to reform our mid business, including more professionalized sales force and increase. We also increased the headcount in the professional teams. So -- and number two, we also stepped up investments or expenses in certain key growing channels. So these are really the initiatives we took to support our strategy of expanding our scale at stable profit. So that has caused a temporary short-term decrease in profit per ton. And as the impact of these investments gradually ease -- in the third quarter, we expect the profit per ton will gradually recover. And for the full year, we -- our outlook is still around RMB 4,500 per metric ton which is just slightly below last year's level. So this consistent with the strategy that we formulated at the beginning of the year, which is to grow our volume at stable profitability.

Unknown Executive

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[Interpreted] And the second question relates to the dividend. So first of all, the company's operations are all normal. In the first half of this year, because the hog price in China was very low, which was a decade low. So we have took advantage of this market opportunity to build some inventories including some frozen meat for the packaged meat raw materials. So we believe these inventories would benefit the company's long-term operations. But on the other hand, these inventories will tie up some of the company's cash flows and working capital. So in light of the cash flows as a result of the inventory buildup, the company has decided, the Board after considering all the factors decided not to pay an interim dividend this time. But because this inventory building is a relatively short-term activity. We believe that in the future, we will continue our strategy of shareholder return through cash dividends and maintain a relatively high dividend payout ratio.

Unknown Executive

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[Interpreted] The question is that with the lower investment expense in the market in the second half, will that impact the company's packaged meats volume growth. And the response is that, number one, because a lot of the investment in the marketing and the sales force is really on the personnel cost -- and as the volume grows, these investments will be amortized. And also last year, fourth quarter, we had a relatively lower base. So we are very confident that we can achieve the volume growth in the second half.

Unknown Executive

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[Interpreted] And a clarification on the question on WH dividends, when talking about whether WH can maintain the dividend per share versus 2025. The 2025 number has it should exclude all the special dividends. Just the base should be just ongoing dividend interim and the final dividend in 2025, it was HKD 0.61.

Kam Yin Yan

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[Interpreted] And a Response from Joanna, the company's CFO. First, we -- our dividend policy has not changed. The dividend policy is no less than 50% of payout ratio is no less than 50% of the net profit attributable to the owners of the company. And number two, we have a strategy or business philosophy of delivering stable returns to our shareholders. For the interim dividend, after considering the company's balance sheet, cash flows we have decided to pay HKD 0.20 per share interim dividend, which was same as last year.

Unknown Executive

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[Interpreted] The question from Tiffany of Citi. Firstly, a follow-up question relates to dividends. So per Mr. Ma's comments earlier, is will we -- will Shuanghui pay dividends to fill the gap that has -- for the interim dividend in the next few months? Or will use the higher final dividend to fill the gap of the interim dividend. And for WH Group, what is the source of the cash flows for the interim dividend? And secondly, what's Shuanghui's outlook of hog price in the second half as well as for next year. In the interim report, there is roughly RMB 300 million of inventory write-down because of low had pork prices. Is it possible that this write-down will be reversed in the second half? And number three, what is the latest progress of the investigation of the antibiotic incidents. And if there is a potential penalty -- a monetary penalty, what would be the estimated size?

Lijun Guo

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[Interpreted] The first question, the decision of not paying interim dividend is really driven by the strategy to build some low-cost inventories. And for the final dividend, we will -- the Board will evaluate based on the cash flows at that time. And -- but for Shuanghui, the philosophy or the policy of paying a relatively high payout ratio has not changed.

Lijun Guo

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[Interpreted] And for the hog price outlook for the second half, we expect moderate increase in hog price in China compared to the first half. So it's a modern -- so which means that it will be higher than the first half, but will not be significantly higher.

Lijun Guo

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[Interpreted] For 2026, we also expect the hog price will be moderately higher than 2026. And in 2027, will be moderately higher than 2026. And the trend will be similar to this year. The first half is relatively lower compared to the second half.

Lijun Guo

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#55

[Interpreted] With respect to the inventory write-downs, it is -- we strictly adhere to the accounting standard and policies and whether there would be reversals, it will depend on the performance -- depend on the movement of a price.

Lijun Guo

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[Interpreted] And with respect to the investigation, please follow the future announcement.

Unknown Executive

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#59

[Interpreted] With respect to the cash flow for double dividends. So ultimately, the cash flows are all as you mentioned, are from the dividend from our subsidiaries in China, in the U.S. and in Europe. But from a timing perspective, the cash flows historically and also in the future does not necessarily always match one by one, match exactly from a timing perspective. But as explained earlier, we have -- there's no change in our dividend policy, and there is no change in our dividend philosophy.

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[Interpreted] So 2 questions from Veronica of UBS. First relates to China packaged meat business. as Mr. Ma commented earlier, we have stepped up investment in some key growing channels. What are the effects of -- or the returns of this investment any changes in terms of the growth, in terms of market shares or in terms of business mix change? And second relates to the U.S. packaged meats. We noticed a relatively soft volume and profit per tonne in the second quarter. What are the latest consumer trends in the U.S. And are we having -- making some changes in our product mix to adapting to these consumer trends? And what would be the outlook for the second half of U.S. packaged meats.

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attendee
#64

[Interpreted] On first question response from Mr. Chao, the President of packaged meat in China. We indeed stepped up investment in the market in the first half. In the past, the traditional channel contributes to most of our business. So we also step up investments in the traditional channels. In the last few years, we have seen declines in the volumes in traditional channels. But this year, we have stopped the decline and achieved a small year-over-year growth. The traditional channels include some supermarkets, small grocery stores and also wholesale markets. For the new channels, it is indeed growing much faster, and we invested in these growing emerging channels. In the first half, the growth from the new channels or emerging channels was 43.8%. This is on the back of a few years -- of last year's very strong growth in the new channels already. So with our investment in the market, we have achieved a 9.1% volume growth for the first half.

Lijun Guo

executive
#65

[Foreign Language].

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#66

[Interpreted] Shane, Mark, do you want to take the second question relates to the U.S. packaged meats?

Shane Smith

executive
#67

Yes. Mark, maybe I'll start and you add anything I missed. And [ Jan Main ] would you like me to stop along the way to translate or just go all the way to the end of [indiscernible].

Unknown Executive

executive
#68

Yes, you can finish your response.

Shane Smith

executive
#69

Okay. Thanks, Veronica. When I look at the second quarter, one thing I would point out when you're looking at profit per ton or volume, it's important just on the second quarter. It's important to keep in mind that the Easter holiday here in the U.S. was actually in the first quarter of this year. as opposed to being in the second quarter last year. So there's a little bit of a timing shift on some of our higher volume holiday ham business. But in general, when I think about packaged meats and I look at the quarter, I feel really good about how the business performed. And that's especially considering the environment that we're operating in. Here in the U.S., consumers are still being very cautious and volumes across a lot of the packaged meats portfolio have remained under pressure, and we're all dealing with higher operating costs. But even with that backdrop, we held our volume share. We've continued to improve our mix and we saw operating margins for the quarter at 13.1%. So we're pleased with that. What we're also pleased with pleased with is that we're seeing some momentum from areas that we've been investing in for really several years now. So when you look at the quarter, our points of distribution were up about 6.2% and -- and we sold multiple brands in our portfolio, gaming shelf space. We're seeing a lot of strong results from some of the innovative products like Prime Fresh or Nathan's Grassfed hogdogs, our Eckrich Smoked Sausage, So the innovation piece of our portfolio is really playing an important role, and that accounts for about 20% of our year-to-date volume coming from products that have been introduced through that innovation pipeline. And some of the investments we've also made in the first half that we saw benefit from but are also setting us up for a really confident second half is some of the strong returns we're seeing from the investments we're making behind our brands. So our marketing support was up, but e-commerce volume grew by about 21.7%. We saw our Gen Z dollars increase by about 15.2%. So we're continuing to bring a lot of younger consumers into the brand. So as we think about the second half and the confidence we have there, our focus really hasn't changed. We like the balance of the portfolio right now. We're going to continue to build our business innovation through distribution gains, through stronger marketing support and then continuing to move our mix to that mix of higher-margin value-added products. And I think there's still a lot of opportunity ahead of us there. So all of these things that we've done in the first half of the year are really setting us up nicely with a lot of momentum as we go into the second half of the year. So really confident in our packaged mix business and how they performed in the first half considering the environment and how it's placed us for what we believe is going to be a strong second half in the packaged meats business.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#70

[Foreign Language].

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#71

[Interpreted] Two questions from Leon of Morgan Stanley. First relates to China's packaged meat business. So in terms of the channels, what is the contribution of the new channels in the sales volumes. And second half, what's the how confident are the company on the positive growth in the traditional channels in the second half? And second question relates to U.S. U.S. business in the August 11 earnings release Smithfield has revised down the guidance for all the 3 operating segments. For the upstream business, including hog production and fresh pork, the operating margin guidance are lower than last year. So in addition to the cautious consumers, does this guidance revision also reflects changes in the hog price, feed cost and meat prices in the U.S. So what are the drivers of the decision to revise down the guidance for hog production and fresh pork?

Lijun Guo

executive
#72

[Foreign Language].

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#73

[Interpreted] For China's new channels, since the second half of last year, we have achieved a double-digit -- we have been achieving double-digit growth in volumes. First half growth was 43% from the new channels. And the first half contribution in terms of volume was 24%. In the second half, we're confident that it will maintain very high growth, and we expect the full year contribution will be 25% in terms of volume. And we also expect the new channel growth will continue in the next 2 to 3 years and will exceed 30% in the next 2 to 3 years.

Mark Hall

executive
#74

This is Mark. I'll take the guidance question. So our team and the business model have really proven resilient in delivering record first half results. But as you indicated, we are tempering our 2026 outlook. And it really primarily reflects lower hog prices and hog production and packaged meats and fresh pork continue to be challenged by a cautious consumer with lower demand and higher input costs. And I'd say our guidance really reflects the commodity markets as we see them today. So we're incorporating in the current hog future strip our expectations for spreads in fresh pork and continued consumer softness. We're also seeing higher freight, diesel and resin costs, but we believe that the assumptions are appropriately prudent given the external environment. And from here, I think the largest potential upside drivers would be better than expected fresh pork spreads stronger package meets volume from the distribution gains and innovation that Shane had mentioned, I think we could also see a tightening of hog supplies that improves the market pricing later in the year. So the largest risk for us really remains the commodity prices and consumer demands. But as Shane mentioned, we're seeing a lot of strength in the packaged meats business. Distribution points increased by 6.2% in the second quarter. He mentioned Prime Fresh is up 18% and really getting some traction with the Nathan's grassfed business. And additionally, we continue to grow our e-commerce share that was up by almost 22%. So I think that, coupled with the investments that we're making in marketing and advertising, the second half, certainly for the packaged meats business looks to be very strong.

Unknown Executive

executive
#75

[Foreign Language].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#76

[Foreign Language].

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#77

[Interpreted] Two questions from Valerie of Goldman. First, related to China's packaged meat business. What's the latest observations in the market in July and August in terms of the packaged meat performance. And last year, the third quarter profit per ton was relatively high due to the holidays. So this year, given the higher contribution from new channels, what is the outlook for the profit per ton will last year's high base create some difficulties to achieve growth. And secondly, as mentioned earlier, the company has taken a lot of low-cost inventories to support future packaged meat business. So how -- so what's the scale of these inventories? How many months of operations could this low-cost inventory support? And what would be the contribution to the profit?

Lijun Guo

executive
#78

[Foreign Language].

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#79

[Interpreted] In terms of packaged meat profit per ton in the first quarter, our profit per ton was very high. In the second quarter, it was much lower because of the low season also because of our stepped-up investment in marketing. So the low profit per ton in the second quarter has resulted in a small decline in the first half profit per ton. In the third quarter, as we enter into the peak season and also as we rationalize our marketing investment we believe -- we expect a significant -- meaningful improvement in profit per ton. So as explained earlier, the full year guidance is the profit per ton is generally flat compared to last year or a very small decline compared to last year.

Unknown Executive

executive
#80

[Foreign Language].

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#81

[Interpreted] It is very difficult to quantify the impact of the inventory built up because it's a very dynamic process. We increased our inventories when the hog prices are low. -- and reduced inventories when the hog prices are high. And once the raw materials are putting into the warehouses, they will amortize the overall cost base. It's a very, very dynamic process and infeasible to quantify.

Unknown Executive

executive
#82

[Foreign Language].

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#83

[Interpreted] 2 questions from Weixin of CICC. First, on China business. In the first half, the expense in relation to advertising and promotions increased to 30% year-over-year? And what's the outlook for the second half? And secondly, relates to the U.S. business, as there has been a lot of speculation about the impact of all Nino effect on the global climate, which may result in higher corn prices. And so investors are concerned about the negative impact from higher corn prices. How will that impact our business in the U.S.? And how -- and can we take some measures to hedge against this risk?

Lijun Guo

executive
#84

[Foreign Language].

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#85

[Interpreted] In the first half, particularly in the second quarter, we have indeed significantly increased spending in marketing, and that has impacted our results for the second quarter. In the second half, we plan to significantly rationalize our spending in marketing. But the exact magnitude will depend on the market environment. Shane, Mark, do you want to take the second one?

Shane Smith

executive
#86

Yes, I'll take the second one. So we also pay a lot of attention to the owning of weather patterns, but in the context of overall global weather patterns and their impact on corn and soybeans. We do have a very robust hedging program. And so we do take advantage of that where we see opportunities. The good thing about per longer-term liquidity in the futures markets, which kind of allow us to take longer-term positions in corn. While we don't give our hedging positions away, I would just say that, that is a key part of our overall strategy. But outside of corn, it really comes -- we also have to play in all the just structural improvements that we've made in the business. from the way we buy form so through investments we've made in grain elevators through the country and how we've converted some of our corn usage into bakery byproducts to offset some of the volume requirements we have in corn to maintain that carbohydrate level. So we have a very robust feeding program, and we have a very robust hedging program, and we use both to the benefit of the company.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#87

[Foreign Language].

Unknown Executive

executive
#88

[Foreign Language].

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#89

[Interpreted] If there are no more questions, we conclude today's earnings call. Thank you.

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