Arista Networks, Inc. (ANET) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 14, 2020

New York Stock Exchange US Information Technology conference_presentation 24 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

John Metz;Jefferies;Analyst

analyst
#1

Hello. It's my privilege to introduce the Vice President and General Manager of Cloud Networking Software for Arista, Doug Gourlay. Doug will give us a quick background of his responsibilities, and we'll jump right into some questions about Arista's software strategy.

Douglas Gourlay;Vice President and General Manager of Cloud Networking Software

executive
#2

Thanks, John. So basically, I look after building a software line of business at Arista. Product lines like our CloudEOS offering, what we're doing in monitoring, management, observability, looked after the Big Switch acquisition we executed over the last year and so on, areas like that. And I'm happy to chat with you about where we're going in software and how that really defines who we are as a business and really defines a lot of our success criteria in the market.

John Metz;Jefferies;Analyst

analyst
#3

[Operator Instructions] So I guess the first question I have for Doug is I worked on the IPO for Arista and have covered it for many years before that. And clearly, the EOS, Extensible Operating System, was always the crown jewel on the differentiation, the competitive differentiator for the business. Maybe if you could speak to since the IPO in 2014, how has that evolved? How has the competitive advantage of Arista evolved? And is that still the key to your success?

Douglas Gourlay;Vice President and General Manager of Cloud Networking Software

executive
#4

Sure, John. Comically, I worked on the IPO of Arista too, just on the other side of the table. So I joined Arista in 2009, I took a small break, and I came back at the end of 2018, early 2019. And from the beginning, I mean, really going back to 2004 when Ken Duda was founding the company, the entire thesis was our industry could do better, right? I mean like we just felt that the networking industry has let down the networking operators, the consumers, the engineers, the people who use and depend on that network reliability. And it was just this foundational belief that our industry needed to do better. And that started with a better operating system. And if you look at the type of software models that Google's developed, using a large mono repo or there's tremendous code reuse within that environment, yet, it all composites into a very consistent end-user experience, we took principles like that. We took principles from how incredibly large-scale software development organizations have operated and brought that into the networking context. And some of them, it just sounds boring, but it's age-old principles like in enterprise resource planning systems and financial management systems, we use a database, right? We use a database to handle payroll, to handle supply chain management, to handle moving money, and that's because they work and they work incredibly well. So we applied really well-known principles. We applied the latest in cutting-edge distributed development technologies and said, "Let's build a different architecture for a network operating system, one that allows us to achieve incredibly high levels of reliability, but also incredibly high levels of code reuse, not wasting people's time, not boring our engineers to death, so that people like enjoy what they're doing in their careers and their jobs. Let's automate testing because nobody likes punching the button 100,000 times and see if it breaks the 100,001st. Better left to a robot, better left to an AI or automated system to do that." We built that infrastructure. And yes, you're right, that was the core principle of our announcement in our IPO in 2014. Now what's changed since then? We've added CloudVision as a network management platform that works very hand in hand with our core EOS product, but developed to the same standard. We've taken that CloudVision product line and expanded it to being delivered as a service. Because the ongoing day-to-day operational management of those types of resource computational storage, analytic intensive systems is complicated. And we can make that easier and more consumable by a larger number of customers in a SaaS delivery vehicle. And then as you've seen, really in the last 2 years, we've started expanding the aperture of capabilities we're delivering through strategic mergers and acquisitions, expanding us into the wireless markets, recently, the observability fabrics with the Big Switch acquisition and enhancing our portfolio in the low-latency trading world which has been a core market for Arista for over a decade now. But yes, what's changed? Some things. But so many things have stayed the same. And sticking to that strategy is really core to our success executing on that strategy for the long term.

John Metz;Jefferies;Analyst

analyst
#5

Well, one of the things that's changed significantly on the customer side, obviously, is cloud computing, whether it's public or private cloud computing and how that's changed in enterprise IT usage. How has that presented opportunities or challenges for you and your competitors as, obviously, there's a one-way path to significant utilization of cloud as an infrastructure IT?

Douglas Gourlay;Vice President and General Manager of Cloud Networking Software

executive
#6

I think as anybody probably on this call knows, the cloud market as a customer base has been an exceptional set of customers for Arista, and we've done a lot to build and empower the architectures deployed in some of the major clouds. That being said, it has created, spot on, a fundamental shift in the consumption model of IT resources, and -- from the enterprise perspective. And we look at that enterprise customer and we said, "Wait, we need to take these architectures that have worked for the cloud providers because we're seeing cloud providers that are building networks, larger than the largest carriers in the world, about 1,000x more efficient from the number of operators necessary to manage them." And what is it that worked there? Well, there's consistent design patterns, consistent architectures that enables automation. How do we take that and bring that to the enterprise? So we started doing that with our universal cloud network architectures. We then realized that it's not just the physical how we interconnect the boxes. It's not just what routing protocol I use, which matters, matters greatly. But it's also how do I operate it? How do we give features and capabilities to that enterprise-class operator that lets them run their network like those large cloud operators do? And then fundamentally, how do we change and embrace the unit of consumption of the network in the cloud, which is a virtual private -- I buy a VPC in Amazon. I buy a VPC at Azure. I buy a -- or VNet in Azure. I buy a VPC in Google. How do I do that in my enterprise network? How do we enable consistent units of consumption so that the enterprise networking teams, buyers, right, the app team, the platform team, the systems teams, they can consume that network in a common model? One of the key capabilities we've brought out within the last year or 2, it's what we call CloudEOS. So we took that same core network operating system and enabled it to be purchased through the public cloud providers in a pay-as-you-go on-demand model to normalize that networking connectivity abstraction to get consistent cloud architecture, consistent cloud operating model and then enabling a consistent unit of consumption, a consistent cloud experience for connecting up these virtual private clouds, they being large multi-cloud networks, multi-region networks with a consistent operating model, so the customer can keep that same benefit of same EOS software, same troubleshooting model, same operating model, across their entire distributed environment, whether in the public cloud or on premises.

John Metz;Jefferies;Analyst

analyst
#7

Well, that might have a lot to do with the next question, which is the obvious question. Why are you winning today...

Douglas Gourlay;Vice President and General Manager of Cloud Networking Software

executive
#8

Is that a softball tee up? I mean is that what we're doing here?

John Metz;Jefferies;Analyst

analyst
#9

Without mentioning your largest competitor and all of their multitude of products, why are you guys winning today? And how has that momentum changed, positive or negative?

Douglas Gourlay;Vice President and General Manager of Cloud Networking Software

executive
#10

Sure, John. And I'll tell you that when I'm talking to customers about new product offers and areas, should we go in, and I'll give a classic example. 3 years, 4 years ago, Jayshree was asking our customers, should we go into the campus? And they're like, "No, just nail the data center, get the data center nailed, and we'll be great." 2 years later, they're looking at or going, "You're late. We need you in the campus now." And she's like, "You told me no." And what we've realized is the software quality, the quality of experience we've delivered for our customers has given us a charter to support the enterprise network, right? And it's -- our customers are asking us, "Please support as many locations in our network as possible." And when I go back to them and we have that conversation now and I ask them why -- and I'm the guy who likes to invent a new feature, and that's been the hallmark of my career for 20 years. I got an idea. I go, "What do you want us to do?" I got these ideas, and they look at me and go -- and I go, "Why would you buy this from us?" They go, "Well, because you're Arista. If we buy it from you, we know it's going to work." I'm like, "So it's not the cool idea I had?" No, it's the quality. And there's -- I think that's created this charter to expand the footprint because it makes it easier for our customers to operate. And probably the simplest example I can give you, John, every time there's a vulnerability in our software or our competitor's software, somebody files what's called a CVE, a common vulnerability or exposure with the U.S. federal government, the National Vulnerability Database maintained by NIST in the Department of Homeland Security. Last year, we had 2. Now it's 2 times we released a software defect that caused our customers to have to do a software upgrade. We're really sorry about that. Next year, we're going to do some more. It's going to happen every year. It happens to everybody. Our job is to own those, support them, give our customers choices on patch upgrades and make it easy and streamlined. By contrast, just in one operating system, some of our competitors had 78 last year. So we forced upgrades 2 times because of software quality defects that we take to heart and we own and we wish we'd never do again, and they did it 35 times more. And that meant more outages, more upgrades, more software qualification, more downtime and incurred more operating cost. I think when customers see that and monetize it, and they see not only the combination of risk and true in enterprise risk but also that this risk lets some affect critical infrastructure that literally every single security control in their enterprises built on the integrity of that network, and if that integrity is compromised, their entire enterprise risk management is compromised. So when our customers look at that, yes, I think there's really significant quantifiable reasons when it comes to managing enterprise risk that causes customers to explore multi-vendor options as a necessary financial control, as a necessary risk mitigation technique. And then when they do a fair valuation across the vendor landscape, we end up looking really, really good as a safe choice, and frankly, the best alternative to the incumbents they probably have.

Charles Yager

executive
#11

Yes, yes.

John Metz;Jefferies;Analyst

analyst
#12

Well, we're getting actually a couple of questions interestingly that are the same of some of the questions I have, so I'm going to enter first some questions.

Douglas Gourlay;Vice President and General Manager of Cloud Networking Software

executive
#13

I mean you're actually on the right track with the softball questions. Okay.

John Metz;Jefferies;Analyst

analyst
#14

Yes. One obvious question that I was asking but an audience member beat me to it was, how is work-from-home and COVID impacting you guys? Good, bad, ugly? What's been the impact the last few months?

Douglas Gourlay;Vice President and General Manager of Cloud Networking Software

executive
#15

Personally, John, I'm having my best summer ever. I got to tell you, I've spent more time with my dog and running around the neighborhood, and I've lost 30 pounds. I think right now, we're in a period of symmetry in customer engagement, right? I did 5 customer meetings last week in a day where I started off covering customers in Europe then in the East Coast then the West Coast and then some Asia meetings. And these were the type of meetings that a year ago, I would have had to be in person on a whiteboard to have with a customer. These were those types of interactive design sessions, whiteboarding, that you just wouldn't do over a Zoom call a year ago. And now I touched 5 of those in a day. That's awesome, right? So we're in a period of symmetry. I think if it goes asymmetric though, all of our industry is going to be challenged when the CEO is telling the sales guys, "Go get in front of the clients," and the clients are going, " No, no, we're working from home." Or somebody wants to go to a client, the client wants somebody there and somebody is like, "I'm immunocompromised. I can't travel right now." And I think as a broader industry, we're all going to have to work through those asymmetric relationship issues as they develop. But for right now, the environment, I think, especially in the space, the type of customers we work with, we've all really quickly normalized to this exact type of engagement we're having now, and it's working pretty darn well. I think with senior experienced employees, which tends to be our hiring profile, it's worked out really well for us. I do worry, again, as an industry, how do I onboard new hires? When I'm doing a cohort of college new hires for their first job in this market, I think there's some challenges we're going to have to overcome there. How do we acculturate and train up 20 people into a new organization? Those are all going to be significant management challenges. So I think individual productivity has gone up, but I bet you ask almost any manager who has a broad, diverse organization, it's changing the way we have to manage people. It's changing the expectations. It's changing where our employees want to live. And I think we're learning a lot of lessons from that. I think we're going to come stronger.

John Metz;Jefferies;Analyst

analyst
#16

Another question we got related to that is, are you seeing specific differentiation that customers are looking for post-COVID, anything, features or functions or use cases that you weren't seeing before COVID? How has that changed what the customers are looking for now, if it has at all?

Douglas Gourlay;Vice President and General Manager of Cloud Networking Software

executive
#17

Oh, yes. I saw a project, where a large enterprise customer deprioritized a bunch of stuff so they could prioritize putting 100-gig links in for Zoom calls. Literally, we need 100-gig Ethernet to support tens of thousands of concurrent Zoom calls happening across all of our employees. And I think that rapid shift to large-scale VPN aggregation from -- that's challenged the growth in a lot of these IT environments. I think that's been great for our business. I think companies that have established a strong reputation for quality and built great customer relationships over the past decade are flourishing, where I'm certain it's a tough time to be entering a market as an unknown right now, and I really feel for anybody trying to do that. That's a tough, tough challenge in this environment. I do think we're going to see consolidation of the number of vendors that IT organizations have the time to deal with right now. I think we're going to see that. And in certain markets, I think we're going to see significant growth, right, when people would classify certain businesses as essential, right? Like I talk to health care providers right now. And it's nonstop for them. The growth, the investment that they have to do just to keep up with the expectations of service delivery and patient care, unfettered growth right now. But you look at other businesses where folks like you and I, I can do my job just as well from my home office as I did in the office. I miss some of the interaction, and it's changed what I've had to do day to day to stay in touch with my team, with the people I work with around the world. And I think that creates new business opportunities. It creates new management challenges and opportunities. But we have seen some companies say, "I'm not going to invest in new branch office infrastructure right now." And others say, "This is the perfect time to upgrade the campus when nobody is there." But we know in certain businesses, they have to go back to work because it's an assembly line building vehicles or something like that.

John Metz;Jefferies;Analyst

analyst
#18

What -- so you talked about inevitable consolidation amongst the IT providers. So within your business, obviously, the cloud network platform you guys have built is a lot of your own secret sauce, but some partnerships as well. In fact, you've been pretty aggressively partnering, most recently being a little more aggressive acquiring. What can we think about down the line about you wanting to own additional areas and where you would partner in additional areas?

Douglas Gourlay;Vice President and General Manager of Cloud Networking Software

executive
#19

I obviously have to be very careful around that topic, John, or Charles, who's on the call, is literally going to reach through the screen poltergeist style and spin my head around exorcist style. I see it happening. What I'd certainly say is, strategically, I think we've demonstrated an openness to M&A, and we've demonstrated an incredible openness to partnering. When your leading competitor aspires to own everything, one of the best things you can do is partner openly and freely with all of the companies that provide high-value alternatives because that aggregate, that ecosystem, that openness of networking is what's critical. And I even go back to we wrote this slide years ago, and it was the Arista first principles of network and systems design. And one of them is multi-vendor. We tell our largest customers, "You need to be multi-vendor. Please don't buy 100% from us," right? Because keep us honest, the network needs to be open and interoperable because that is a necessary control. And that means we need to be open to partnering in areas and sometimes being open to interoperating with competitors because that's what our customers need. So I think you're going to continue to see strong partnerships because that's the best way to compete with a company that aspires to be everywhere and be in everything. But when it comes to moving packets and transport, we want to be the best at that.

John Metz;Jefferies;Analyst

analyst
#20

Well, talking about moving packets, we have a question about your perspective on the timing of the transition to 400-gig. What do you see? What's the timing you see? And when do you think that hits mainstream? And why do we even need 400 at this point?

Douglas Gourlay;Vice President and General Manager of Cloud Networking Software

executive
#21

Probably a little out of my scope as a software guy, okay? So what I'd certainly say is Arista has taken a strong leadership position in 400-gig. As we look at the early adopters, it does start with the highest throughput, biggest networks of the world, which has been our hallmark customer base. So we are seeing that growth. Why would you need 400 gig? Well, if you need 100 gig to aggregate Zoom calls out of a large enterprise, imagine you're the carrier or you're the cloud provider who's handling that ingestion, it gets multiplicative. One thing, I guess, I've noticed in 25 years in this industry, there is a voracious appetite for bandwidth. I have installed 10 gig in my wiring closet at home, right, because I have a photo library with 24 terabytes of online storage, and I just want to use my Adobe Lightroom and see them all and edit and adjust them. And so I've got 10 gig at home because I did need it. It really sucked before that. And so I think the voracious appetite for bandwidth is real. There's always an application that will consume more, whether it was database replication or building more cloud-native applications today that put distributed systems of engagement up in the cloud provider while keeping systems of record running on the on-premises environment. And you're using high-performance Redis and Couchbase caching on those database architectures to accelerate the performance. All of that drives an increase in consumption. As storage gets faster, as GPUs get faster, as CPUs get faster, the network has to move in balance. And if it doesn't, that's when we see one or the other area creating inflexibility and intractability that causes IT architectures to become brittle.

John Metz;Jefferies;Analyst

analyst
#22

Well, I'm personally waiting for holographic work from home. That will be pretty bandwidth intensive.

Douglas Gourlay;Vice President and General Manager of Cloud Networking Software

executive
#23

Like Tupac at Coachella, right?

John Metz;Jefferies;Analyst

analyst
#24

We have time for just 1 or 2 more questions. One is, how do you see the networking industry evolving over the next few years? And how is that impacting you? Whether it's Cisco becoming even bigger and doing -- trying to do everything to everybody, VMware obviously, getting into the virtual aspects of networking, public cloud doing some of their own stuff and lastly and most interestingly, chip companies moving up the stack like NVIDIA when they acquired Cumulus. So what do you see as far as the competitive landscape?

Douglas Gourlay;Vice President and General Manager of Cloud Networking Software

executive
#25

Sure. I probably won't go into any specific competitive analysis of one versus the other, John. But I'll say this, our industry has let our customers down. I mean for 25 years, I think we've just -- we've accepted a really, really weak status quo, we as network operators, we as people who manage and consume these devices. I mean when you buy a pencil from Amazon, you get better telemetry about where it's arriving than when you buy $0.5 million router from someone. That's scary. When -- I've seen the systems world advance, the identity and access management world advance, the roles of privileged account management world advance to protect enterprise infrastructures, yet networking is sitting there saying, "Use this 1970s-era CLI and then write regular expressions that do per-command authorization." I'm like, "I'm sorry, the world's evolved. Why haven't we evolved with it?" I think we owe our clients more, John. We owe them better than we've done before. And it's time. It's time for us to advance the state of the art in the engagement and interoperation of the network with the systems world, with the platform world and looking at architectures that enable true platform system of record, whether it's a VMware, whether it's a Nutanix, whether it's a Kubernetes, whether it's a cloud provider, to integrate with the network natively so that changes, like true authoritative source of truth changes on one side become dynamically reflected across the networks. The network becomes adaptive to that environment and interactive with it as opposed to, I have to sit there in a swivel chair with a keyboard chasing the cloud guy around. No, we need networking that operates at the speed of cloud from an operations perspective and from a throughput perspective. And we built the right software platforms to enable that in CloudVision and in EOS.

John Metz;Jefferies;Analyst

analyst
#26

Well, I think the proof is in the pudding and Arista has certainly proven to be being in a position to deliver better. As you say, the industry is owed better. So I want to thank you, Doug, for joining us today and giving us your perspective. I'll remind the audience that this is being recorded, so you'll have access to it after the fact. But thank you, Doug, and thank you, everybody, for attending, and appreciate the time.

Douglas Gourlay;Vice President and General Manager of Cloud Networking Software

executive
#27

Thank you, John. Appreciate it. Thank you all.

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