Flowers Foods, Inc. (FLO) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 20, 2022

New York Stock Exchange US Consumer Staples Food Products earnings 30 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

J. Rieck

executive
#1

Hi, everyone, and thanks for joining us to go over Flowers Foods' results for the first quarter of 2022. I'm J.T. Rieck, SVP of Finance and Investor Relations. Just a reminder that we posted our first quarter results on May 19, 2022. The earnings release and the related slide presentation, plus the transcript of these remarks from our CEO and CFO, are available in the Investors section of flowersfoods.com. Additional details are posted there as well. Before we begin, please note that what we present here may contain forward-looking statements regarding the company's performance. While we consider these statements reasonable, they carry risks and uncertainties that might make actual results differ materially. Beyond what you hear in these remarks, important factors concerning Flowers Foods' business are fully described in our SEC filings. Speaking today are Ryals McMullian, President and CEO, and Steve Kinsey, our CFO. Ryals, over to you.

A. McMullian

executive
#2

Thanks, J.T. We're glad to have everyone join us for this first-quarter call. 2022 has begun with record results, as our leading brands keep gaining share and generating robust top-line growth. Sales for the first quarter climbed over 10% versus a year earlier, hitting all-time highs. Pricing that helped counter elevated commodity costs drove the bulk of that sales gain and, combined with efficiency measures, produced record adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS. Those results would have been even better were it not for inflation that came in above expectations, supply chain disruptions, and the intentional rationalization of our product line during the quarter, consistent with our portfolio strategy. In January we implemented a price increase designed to counter the inflation we anticipated as the year began. Since that time, commodity costs have risen substantially beyond what we initially projected, driven by multiple factors—most notably the conflict in Ukraine. Although almost none of our raw materials originate in Ukraine, the situation there still influences global markets for wheat and other commodities. To help counter this extra inflationary pressure, we have put in place an additional pricing measure that goes into effect in early June. In addition to inflation, supply chain disruptions constrained our capacity to obtain sufficient quantities of particular raw materials and packaging items. Packaging took the bigger hit—bread bags in particular—and those shortfalls caused us to trim output during the quarter. Our procurement group is working hard to lessen the effects of these shortages, and we anticipate the situation will be straightened out by the third quarter. I've talked on earlier calls about our portfolio strategy, which is meant to move our sales mix toward branded retail products that carry higher margins. In line with that strategy, we keep rationalizing the product line, discontinuing lower-margin items that aren't well differentiated. This effort, which weighed on sales in the quarter, also cuts complexity in our bakeries and frees up capacity for producing more of our higher-margin branded products—something that ought to lift sales and margins over the long run. Even with those challenges and tough comparisons to last year, our market share expanded, and that contributed to record quarterly sales. In tracked channels, Flowers' fresh packaged bread picked up 30 basis points of share, while Nature's Own, Dave's Killer Bread and Canyon Bakehouse each added 20, 20 and 10 basis points, respectively. That result gives us greater confidence in our 2022 sales outlook, which we are raising today. Next, I'll walk through our four strategic priorities that we believe will shape our results in 2022 and beyond: developing our team, focusing on our brands, prioritizing margins and pursuing smart M&A. Let me begin with the team. Let me express gratitude to everyone in our Flowers family for the effort and commitment they've shown, since that is what has enabled the results we've delivered over the past several years. Our team's execution has produced outstanding outcomes amid a fast-moving landscape marked by challenges unlike anything we've faced before. Having the correct team in place is essential to succeeding going forward. When handled well, nothing will accelerate our success to a greater degree—and when handled poorly, nothing will damage it more. That is why we established our agile innovation, transformation office, digital and change management teams: to take on the specific initiatives currently underway that are designed to power growth in the years ahead. Adding to the experience and knowledge that so many of our long-tenured team members bring, we've brought in talented new hires throughout numerous functions, people offering a diverse mix of experiences, backgrounds and capabilities that we previously lacked internally. That blend is proving extremely valuable as we work to improve how our company performs. Our second strategic priority centers on our brands. I discussed our portfolio strategy of moving sales toward higher-margin branded products and how the pandemic sped up that shift. At first, we assumed demand would ultimately fall back somewhat toward prepandemic levels; nevertheless, branded retail has stayed strong; and measured as a share of sales, it was in fact above the level seen in the first quarter of 2020 during this quarter. The pandemic drove substantial trial of our products, and we've managed to turn that trial into new, loyal customers. In fact, since 2019 we've added 5.2 million new households. Moreover, the growing prevalence of hybrid work arrangements, which encourage more at-home eating, appears to be lasting. Beyond that, we believe a significant portion of the momentum we're seeing comes from our efforts to reinforce our brands through our portfolio strategy — generating more profitable branded retail sales and improving the profitability of our nonretail and store-branded items. We've established leading positions in the low organic and gluten-free segments, and with our portfolio strategy as our guide, we intend to sustain that growth. Innovation has played a major role in this market success, and we continue to invest in new products. Some exciting recent launches include Nature's Own Hawaiian loaf, Nature's Own Perfectly Crafted sourdough, Dave's Killer Bread, Everything Breakfast Bread and Canyon Bakehouse brioche rolls. Our agile innovation team goes further by creating products that draw on our strong brands, enabling those products to extend beyond our main category. To date, we have brought to market three kinds of Dave's Killer Bread bars. Results from test markets have exceeded what we expected, so we are working to expand distribution for these items. We also have an exciting pipeline of more snack products under the DKB brand that we expect will reinforce our entry into the healthy snacking category. Innovation, particularly beyond our core categories, is an essential part of our portfolio strategy and our future growth story. The early results are very encouraging, and we are focused on growing in these new categories. We've also put more into marketing and advertising spend to raise awareness and penetration. Our portfolio strategy directs most of our spending to the highest potential brands, and returns on those investments have been positive. As I noted, our leading brands once again picked up market share this quarter. Those share gains contributed to sales growth for Nature's Own, Dave's Killer Bread and Canyon Bakehouse — rising 11%, 15% and 21%, respectively, in tracked channels. What's even more encouraging is that volumes for those brands also grew, despite higher prices and supply chain headwinds, climbing 1.7%, 5.3% and 13.1%, respectively. To meet that heightened appetite for what we sell, we added capacity — specifically, a Dave's Killer Bread line at the Henderson, Nevada bakery. Production on that line began late in the first quarter, and it improves how we serve the rapidly expanding West Coast market, while also freeing neighboring bakeries to operate closer to optimal capacity. Because this matters so much to the long-term growth targets we've set, I want to offer a little more perspective on how we approach our portfolio. In doing so, we placed every business cell into one of 4 portfolio roles, judged by our right to win and potential for growth. On slide 8 of the earnings presentation, you'll see four roles within the portfolio: speeding up growth, learning and proving, and balancing growth against maximizing profitability.

A. McMullian

executive
#3

The business cells in our accelerate growth and learn and prove portfolio roles are where we're prioritizing investment and growth, while the brands in the remaining 2 categories are meant to produce cash that supports that growth. We anticipate that our accelerate growth and learn and prove business cells will expand meaningfully faster than their categories. Balance growth business cells are profitable and have demonstrated an ability to win, but they've lost some consumer appeal, and we expect them to hold market share. Our last portfolio role covers business cells where the main goal is maximizing profitability or exiting in a thoughtful way. Put simply, over time our strategy is to shift our business as far as possible toward the right-hand side of the chart, where we think our top brands can grow at attractive rates and deliver improved margins for the company as a whole. Margins are our third strategic priority, and they remain a particular focus given the rapid inflation we've seen. Our playbook on this is unchanged. Beyond the margin expansion that comes from the mix shift driven by our portfolio strategy, we're rolling out cost savings programs and putting improved processes in place to run the business as efficiently as we can; we're also investing in digital robotics and automation and layering those capabilities on top of the improved processes. Last quarter, we noted that we expected to generate $25 million to $35 million of savings this year tied to operational efficiencies and procurement. Those initiatives are progressing well, and we believe we're on track to hit our savings target. Lastly, we expect our digital transformation initiative to deliver meaningful efficiencies over time. We've devoted significant resources, including standing up our transformation office and change management team, to make sure implementation doesn't negatively affect our operations. The process is proceeding as expected, and we're confident in our ability to implement it as planned. Smart M&A is our fourth priority. We keep watching the deal market, actively looking for potential acquisitions that would add capabilities, brands or products to our strong existing lineup. We believe our balance sheet puts us in a good position to act when we have financial, commercial and operational conviction. Portfolio fit is crucial, but the expected return on any potential deal matters just as much. We're not averse to paying a premium for high-quality assets, but we also require an attractive return. We won't stray from our disciplined approach if a potential deal fails to meet all of our required criteria; now I'll hand it over to Steve to review the details of the quarter, and then I'll come back a little bit later to discuss our outlook for the current business environment. Steve?

R. Kinsey

executive
#4

Thank you, Ryals, and good morning to all of you. I want to second what you said about our amazing team and offer my heartfelt appreciation for everything they have done. As Ryals noted, we're quite happy with how the first quarter turned out. Sales overall rose 10.3% versus the same period a year ago. Better price/mix pushed the adjusted year-over-year gain up 13.5%, with price contributing more than mix. The main drivers were price hikes aimed at offsetting inflationary pressure and expansion in our higher-margin branded retail products. That sales improvement was partly offset by volume slipping 3.2%, mostly because our cake, fast food and store-branded business turned soft — a reflection in part of the supply chain issues Ryals mentioned in his opening remarks. In the first quarter, gross margin as a share of sales, leaving out depreciation and amortization, dropped 110 basis points to 49.5%. The year-over-year comparison felt the impact of higher ingredient and packaging costs, partially balanced by stronger sales and reduced outside purchases. Selling, distribution and administrative costs climbed by 10 basis points relative to sales, hitting 38.6% during the first quarter. The increase was driven by added consulting expenses and inflation in transportation costs, though it was mostly balanced out by beneficial price/mix, reduced workforce-related costs, and greater income from scrap dough. When you exclude the items impacting comparability that are outlined in the press release, adjusted SD&A expenses dropped 20 basis points to 38%, reflecting lower workforce-related costs and higher scrap dough income, partly counterbalanced by elevated logistics cost. GAAP diluted EPS for the quarter was $0.40 per share, compared with $0.34 in the same period a year earlier. Leaving aside the comparability items laid out in the release, adjusted diluted EPS for the quarter came in at $0.44 per share, which is $0.03 higher than the same period a year ago. A reduced tax rate stemming from a stock compensation windfall benefited adjusted diluted EPS to the tune of $0.01. Turning to the balance sheet, liquidity and cash flow: in the first quarter of fiscal 2022, operating cash flow increased $26.2 million, reaching $124.2 million. Capital expenditures were up $23.2 million to $50.5 million, driven primarily by the continuing ERP upgrade, digital investments and added production capacity. Dividends paid climbed $4.2 million to $46.7 million. Our financial position continues to be strong. When fiscal 2022's first quarter ended, our net debt relative to trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA stood at about 1.4x—essentially the same leverage we carried at the conclusion of 2021's fourth quarter. As of quarter end, cash and cash equivalents totaled approximately $205 million, and roughly $692 million remained available under our credit facilities. Shifting now to how we see 2022 unfolding: we're lifting our sales guidance to reflect both the extra price increase taking effect in early June and volume and elasticities that came in better than we had anticipated. Compared with 2021, sales should now rise 10% to 12%, and the midpoint of that range works out to a 5.2% compound annual growth rate measured from the 2019 base. Compared with the 7.6% to 8.4% range we projected before, that is what the revised sales growth forecast now shows. Guidance for adjusted EPS is being reduced to $1.20 to $1.30, and the midpoint of that range equates to a 9.2% compound annual growth rate when measured from the 2019 base. The midpoint of this forecast is higher than our long-term financial targets, which envision sales growth of 1% to 2% and EPS growth of 7% to 9% from the 2019 base. As Ryals noted, we encountered substantial headwinds stemming from inflation and supply chain disruptions. In aggregate, those discrete headwinds are expected to reduce second and third quarter results by $0.05 per share, with the largest impact occurring in the second quarter. Regarding earnings cadence, Q1 results matched our internal plan. Our pricing actions from January will impact the entire year, whereas the June pricing will largely help the latter half of 2022. That schedule produces a headwind, owing to the delay between when inflationary pressures started and when the price increase kicks in. We anticipate offsetting the supply chain disruption impact—particularly the bag availability Ryals mentioned earlier—during the third quarter. With that timing, we expect the full extent of any added financial impact from these headwinds to be limited to Q2 and Q3. Gains from our growth and efficiency initiatives should mostly benefit the second half of the year. At the time we gave our first 2022 outlook, we said we anticipated cost growth in the high single digits and that about 70% of our major raw materials had been secured. Today our commodity coverage is roughly 95%, and we anticipate cost growth ranging from high single digits to low double digits. Up to now, we have succeeded in securing the elevated pricing needed to counter inflation. We stay hopeful that, together with steps taken internally, we will keep offsetting inflationary expenses, albeit with a delay. Thank you. I'll now hand things back to Ryals.

A. McMullian

executive
#5

Thank you, Steve. You've just heard Steve explain how executing on our initiatives has produced strong financial results even with volatility in the market. I want to speak to several key factors shaping the current environment. Right now inflation is on everyone's mind, with commodity prices climbing close to record highs across many categories. Steve also covered how those costs have risen more than we originally expected for the year. As I noted, we've put in place one more pricing move taking effect in early June, and we're prepared to act further to safeguard our margin dollars if inflationary pressures mount. Today's environment also highlights how much our leading brands matter. We think consumers still find value in the distinctive attributes of our products, and recent results appear to bear that out. Despite price increases of 9.8% in tracked channels versus the year-ago period, our volumes declined only 0.1%. And keep in mind that this modest volume decrease reflects the impact of supply chain disruptions and SKU rationalization. We beat the category overall, which recorded a 10.1% price increase alongside a volume decline of 1.8%. Importantly, we've observed less elasticity among the most premium products in our portfolio. Beyond inflation, severe supply chain disruptions are pushing distribution costs higher and, in certain cases, causing material shortages. Those shortages could last into the second half of the year, but we're working hard to mitigate them and expect resolution in the third quarter; we're also watching closely for possible demand reversion tied to the waning pandemic and a potential economic recession. Earlier, I discussed the enduring strength of branded retail despite a decline in COVID cases, but I do want to offer more color on a potential recessionary impact. The last stretch of significant inflation overlapped with the financial crisis and its aftermath, roughly from 2007 to 2012. The common perception is that recessions push consumers to trade down to lower-priced products, particularly private label. Yet what we found during that period was that despite severe economic hardships, including high unemployment and low consumer confidence, private label didn't gain meaningful share. But we did see a shift from foodservice to branded retail as consumers cut back on more expensive restaurant visits. Further, differentiated products held up better than more commodity-like products. I'd also point out the significant changes in the competitive environment since that period. The industry was far less consolidated, and some larger players were under financial distress, which created pricing pressure. Our product portfolio was also less differentiated, since we hadn't yet acquired Dave's Killer Bread or Canyon Bakehouse, nor had we yet developed the Nature's Own Perfectly Crafted line. Today, we compete in a far more consolidated industry with a much stronger portfolio of brands that is even more differentiated compared to private label. Considering how the industry and Flowers have developed, that prior stretch indicates our product ought to perform strongly if a recession hits. Going forward, four strategic priorities—team, brands, margins and M&A—steer where we put our attention. We keep making our industry-leading team stronger so we possess the right capabilities for today's difficulties; we are putting money into our leading brands and pushing efforts that raise efficiencies and margins. Moreover, our solid balance sheet and cash flow leave us well placed to reinforce our brands and capabilities via M&A; to wrap up, even though we are reducing our adjusted EPS guidance, I want to stress that this cut stems from discrete issues we anticipate resolving in the third quarter. Absent those items, we would be on pace to hit our initial guidance. I am genuinely enthusiastic about what lies ahead for us. Our business fundamentals stay solid, since our portfolio strategy fuels higher sales of our leading brands and growing margins. I have never felt more confident regarding the initiatives now in place to secure our future success. Everyone at Flowers is putting in hard work to boost shareholder value, and we anticipate continuing to produce results at or above our long-term financial targets. Our team's performance in a challenging environment makes me very proud. Their perseverance produced record quarterly results in sales and adjusted EPS. Our leading brands keep picking up share, and we are successfully rolling out strategies to extend that growth. Inflation and supply chain disruptions are hitting practically every company, and we are not shielded from that. Our team is working tirelessly to counter those pressures. And we do highlight a $0.05 impact on our '22 results, yet we anticipate those headwinds being resolved in the third quarter. The business fundamentals are strong, and I have never felt more optimistic about our prospects. And regardless of the environment, our team stays focused on delivering results at or above our long-term financial targets. So with that, Shannon, we are ready to begin the Q&A, please.

Ryan Bell

analyst
#6

Regarding the price/mix you've got, could you potentially break out some of what's driven by pricing versus what comes from mix? And then on consumer elasticities — those seem to have held up quite well. The market's next round of pricing is landing on a consumer who's feeling a bit more pressure. So any perspective you could offer on that would be great.

A. McMullian

executive
#7

Yes. Thanks for the question, Ryan. I'll handle the elasticities piece and then hand it to Steve for price/mix. So far this year, what we've seen has really encouraged us. Our elasticities came in lower than even we expected. I think we noted in the prepared remarks that the most encouraging thing is that, despite a significant amount of price increases in January, we actually grew units as well with our top brands — Nature's Own, Dave's and Canyon. So I view that as a really good sign going forward; now, as we said, we were putting through another price increase in June, so there's a bit of wait and see on how the consumer responds to that second round of pricing. We all know the consumer is under quite a bit of pressure, though I'll say much of the information out there is somewhat conflicting. You know, there have been some indications out there that the consumer might be hunting for bargains more than before, or making choices that are somewhat different. I believe we all saw a handful of retailer reports this week that showed a bit of that, although it appeared largely confined to general merchandise and didn't seem to apply as much to food. Still, we're all aware of what this inflationary climate looks like, and there very well could be a behavioral shift when this next round of pricing arrives. But we simply won't know until we get there. What matters is that, so far, the consumer has looked pretty healthy. Steve, would you like to address price/mix?

R. Kinsey

executive
#8

Absolutely. Ryan, as you’re aware, we normally don’t break out price versus mix in what we report; however, as noted in our prepared remarks, most of that gain—the vast majority, in fact—on the price/mix line came from pricing. So I’d say it’s reasonable to assume that pricing accounts for the vast majority.

Ryan Bell

analyst
#9

Now, on the EPS guidance being reduced somewhat — which makes sense with all the inflationary pressure and supply chain problems — you mentioned the effect hitting 2Q harder than 3Q. Could you give us any detail on that?

A. McMullian

executive
#10

Absolutely, Ryan. That price increase we're putting through doesn't take effect until June 6, yet we're already seeing the higher cost, plus we have the packaging disruption we talked about. The bigger share of the impact comes from the pricing lag rather than the packaging effect. But starting June 6, through the rest of the quarter, we'll get the benefit of that extra pricing; so it really stems from a mix of the price lag and the packaging disruption we mentioned.

Ryan Bell

analyst
#11

And my final question is about getting a handle on just how much incremental volume has come from people working at home — have you carried out any survey research to gauge how much larger the breakfast or lunch occasion has become that your products can now serve?

A. McMullian

executive
#12

Yes. What we have observed, Ryan, is a change taking place inside the category — and I believe we have talked about this on a few earlier calls — toward specialty buns and enrolled-type products at breakfast, much of it pushed by work from home, plus a move toward more premium items and away from that traditional segment of roughly 20-ounce loaves. Even though we remain strong there and are still quite large there, clearly, with Nature's Own, we have watched the category move out to those items that are more premium and more differentiated. And the encouraging part is that this has held up, at least, so far even in this difficult environment.

Steve Powers

analyst
#13

All right. So Ryals, I'd like to follow up on that first question. Could you just verify that the latest pricing round has been accepted across the board? And also confirm whether your guidance assumes a worse reaction to the next pricing round than what we've perhaps witnessed up to now? Then I wanted to circle back on — following Walmart and Target this week. As you sort of mentioned, there's been enormous attention on not just heightened worries about weakening demand and elasticity, but sort of baked into my question are worries about growing retailer resistance to additional price hikes and the favoring of private label assortments across a number of categories. And set against that background, your results and your forward commentary sort of contradict those worries; so could you perhaps offer some perspective on that? And bearing in mind past trends right through this first quarter, just what makes you confident that you can sort of sustain and really lean harder into that premiumization momentum as we head into what I believe increasingly, people sense as a — perhaps everyone senses, a far more uncertain future?

A. McMullian

executive
#14

Sure. Steve, thanks for the question. So regarding pricing acceptance, we haven't encountered any problems there. The bulk of our pricing is in and planned — that was planned for June 6. From our perspective, that area is genuinely fine. We have confidence that we'll be able to fit everything in, so that's point one. Second, on the subject of private label, going back to a few things we discussed previously, private label in our category has been falling for quite some time, as you're aware, and the decline continues. That said, the drops aren't as steep as those in earlier quarters, though it's still been negative. I'm aware there's been some private label growth across food more broadly, but at present that isn't showing up in our category. I keep coming back to the matter of differentiation in our category. Store brands tend to be pretty bare-bones products; what we provide spans multiple price levels and selling channels, and that mix looks quite different from private label. I'm certainly not claiming that a downturn or similar scenario wouldn't bring some degree of customers trading down. Still, as our prepared remarks showed, when we examined the prior recession, we saw relatively little of that behavior in our segment. Beyond that, our sector today looks very unlike what it was during that stretch from 2008 through 2011 or '12, correct? The industry is far more consolidated now, and the category has seen considerable innovation. Today we have Dave's, plus Canyon and Nature's Own Perfectly Crafted, and others — options that just weren't around in those earlier days. Our market share today is well above what it was back then. So if some trading down does happen, I'm still very confident we can handle any demand environment that comes our way. Remember, this is a stable category — an extremely stable one. For a large number of shoppers, it's a weekly purchase, again and again. And then there are the work-from-home patterns that continue, as we're seeing. I'd say the backdrop looks favorable for ongoing solid results. When it comes to retailers giving priority to private label, that isn't something we've observed. I've come across a few remarks from retailers indicating they aren't taking that approach. And once more, we definitely haven't witnessed it. Attention still appears to be on branded products within the category, and fortunately, we have strong brands ready to occupy that space.

Steve Powers

analyst
#15

Okay. That's really useful. Could you maybe just — can you verify, or sort of lay out for us, what amount of, I suppose, a deteriorating backdrop is baked into your guidance? And then, I suppose, I took away from your prepared remarks — you were quite explicit about the sort of 2Q, 3Q pattern, inflationary pressures mounting, supply chain disruption, and the pricing that's coming through, producing that $0.05 impact. But I suppose it's less clear to me where you see the year finishing. I suppose I'm really approaching it through a gross margin lens. Since you'll likely have complete pricing set by Q4 and supply chain problems resolved, expenses will most likely keep rising anyway. So how ought we to think about the margin profile of the business as we exit '22?

R. Kinsey

executive
#16

Certainly, Steve. Steve here. Looking at it, perhaps I'll go through it following the rhythm of guidance. We mentioned this at the start of the year, and it's now fully incorporated into our forecast since our coverage levels have increased, but our costs continue to rise and escalate primarily through Q3, after which they level off somewhat, although they'll remain at an elevated level in Q4; then from a comparison perspective, the comp will be easier by the time you get to the latter part of the year. So as the year progresses, you'll very likely see some margin pressure. As Ryals mentioned, we think our pricing is set up to counter and reduce as much of that impact as possible; on top of that, there are the cost programs we've been talking about for the last two quarters or so. Those efforts also help us counter part of the inflationary strain we're experiencing. Many of these programs land in the second half, so the ramp really won't begin until Q2 is behind us. And on the nickel specifically, when it comes to pricing and packaging, as we've noted, things should improve somewhat on the packaging side. Heading into Q3, we believe we have a strong plan ready to address it. Up to now, that plan is being executed, and conditions are beginning to improve somewhat, so we remain comfortable — from a guidance perspective, we've allowed ourselves the room needed to work through that issue. The reality is that this will be a challenge spanning the entire year, with everyone fully engaged. Still, we believe the manner in which we forecast, the manner in which we planned, and the manner in which we've accounted for elasticities as prices continue climbing are all incorporated into our guidance.

Mitchell Pinheiro

analyst
#17

So, to start with the supply chain problems. I know you've mentioned plastic bags and similar things. But which particular problems are you encountering pressure on, or disruptions from, that are causing inefficiencies?

A. McMullian

executive
#18

Mitch, for us it's mainly been packaging. We did have a few issues with raw materials, though nothing I'd describe as very significant; the main thing has really been the bags, obviously for our bread items and then a couple of items in cake. But again, we're working our way through that. I'm fully confident we'll be past it in the third quarter. Which is, again, why we called out the nickel impact.

Mitchell Pinheiro

analyst
#19

And when it comes to the bag, I mean, is this a case where your suppliers — obviously there are issues with your suppliers? I mean, is it — how — why is there a bag shortage?

A. McMullian

executive
#20

Yes. It was kind of a mix of things. But let me just say, there's ample inventory, or capacity rather, in the system that we've pinpointed and are shifting toward; so we'll actually be distributing our risk more widely than before. So we'll be — we'll actually emerge from this in far better shape than when we entered it; a range of factors caused the backups. I can't single out any one of them. But once more, given the steps we're taking, we'll be — from the standpoint of supplier diversification, we'll be in much better condition than we were before.

Mitchell Pinheiro

analyst
#21

Alright, and then—so as we maybe see inflation pressure come to an end and you've made all your pricing moves, and I know we've discussed—a lot of the questions here concern elasticity. But once we reach the other side of this stretch, do you expect that price—that your list pricing holds and we move toward a somewhat more promotional setting, or—and would you favor that, since you can—your promotions can push faster volume? Or would you prefer it be a relatively steady list environment with limited promotional activity? How—what works best for Flowers?

A. McMullian

executive
#22

Yeah. Look, in my view—that's a great question, Mitch. In my view, I'd prefer that the promotional environment stay steady; and we've needed to lift our margins in this business for a long time, as you're well aware. And so my hope would definitely be that consumers can accept the price increase, that the price increase sticks and that the promotional environment stays rational; that would be ideal for our business.

Mitchell Pinheiro

analyst
#23

All right. And it's still impressive that your brands are picking up share, and I'd like to know where that's coming from. Is it store brands that are the source? Or are there any regional differences worth noting when it comes to your share gains?

A. McMullian

executive
#24

Yes. There's one I want to mention. I mean, in the Northeast we keep doing exceptionally well. That performance makes me really proud. As you know, we've put — you've seen plenty of our commercials, I believe you've brought that up before. And we've placed a lot of investment behind it because, as you know, it's — our national share sits at 17.9%, 18% depending on which quarter you look at, while in the Northeast we're at roughly 10%, 1 or 2 now, I think, but not long ago it was 0. And we keep raising that share across basically all of our categories. So that investment is paying off. Nature’s Own, especially Perfectly Crafted, Dave's Killer Bread, Canyon, all of them keep gaining share. And those — these are premium items we're talking about. And as I said, seeing that unit growth together with the price increase is really encouraging to me.

Mitchell Pinheiro

analyst
#25

Okay. And then just one more thing. On the foodservice side, you mentioned, I believe, a quarter or 2 ago that you were sort of establishing new margin thresholds in foodservice, holding firm on pricing, and refusing to accept unfavorable deals; how is that strategy progressing?

A. McMullian

executive
#26

It's progressing well. I also mentioned that it's somewhat of a long-term endeavor since a portion of our foodservice volume is under contract. So we need to work through those contractual terms to get fully where we want to be. But in the areas where we've been able to act, we have, and it's beginning to improve things. Now the inflation situation does obscure it somewhat because in foodservice, there's sometimes an even greater pricing lag since with contracted business, you follow the contract's cadence. And so you may be facing inflation, but the price increase doesn't arrive until the contract specifies it arrives; so there's a bit of that happening. But where we've been able to act, where we're not under contract, it's been very beneficial to have those margin thresholds established that the team is fully aligned with or working toward. So over time, I expect to see those foodservice margins begin to rise again.

Ben Bienvenu

analyst
#27

I'd like to ask about how you're optimizing the portfolio, since you've mentioned trimming lower-margin SKUs. When you pursue that approach, do you simply examine every low-margin SKU you carry and pull those out as a strategic move? Or do you keep certain low-margin items that see higher demand? How do you weigh that trade-off between where the margin sits and where demand reaches critical mass?

A. McMullian

executive
#28

Yes, that's a good question. Some of our lower-margin products we'd call more strategic, in the sense that when we partner with certain retailers—having that store brand business, for instance—it earns us preferential space for our brands, whereas otherwise that wouldn't happen. Our goal is to improve those margins, whether through some mix of pricing, distribution methods, efficiencies on our side, and so on. But if we can't lift them to the right threshold, we then have the option to exit that business thoughtfully and redirect that capacity—as I've said on earlier calls—toward our higher-margin branded business, which is what we've been doing over the last several years. It really has paid off for us.

Ben Bienvenu

analyst
#29

Understood. All right, that makes sense. Then turning to your CapEx guidance, it came down a little. You mentioned product raw material toward your < > production platform. How much of that are you seeing in your CapEx projects pipeline? And how are you navigating that environment?

R. Kinsey

executive
#30

Could you say that again? The first part of it broke up a little.

Ben Bienvenu

analyst
#31

Sure. On that downward revision to your CapEx guidance, what portion stems from production or labor issues — or material problems — as opposed to simply timing differences?

R. Kinsey

executive
#32

I mean, the reality is that most of it is probably more about timing. When we look at the bakery optimization we've been discussing now for a couple of years, as we keep evaluating where that work needs to happen, we have pushed somewhat on when it occurs. So it will probably carry us out of this year and into next year. So really it's mostly tied to timing. I mean, we're pretty much on track with the largest project underway right now around ERP plus and digital; those are coming in about where we expected; it's really around some of the optimization. But it really has nothing to do with supply availability; it's more of just kind of a push from a timing perspective.

Ben Bienvenu

analyst
#33

All right, that's fair. So for my final question: I realize it's still very early, but regarding the DKB Bars, you mentioned some encouraging feedback patterns. Is this mainly a chance to gain market share? Or do you also see a possibility for distribution gains in new channels like < > stores or others?

A. McMullian

executive
#34

Yes. We definitely believe distribution opportunities exist there. And sure, look, I made a point of saying it's early days, but the test market results were truly excellent and surpassed what we had expected. It's a great position for us because it's uncommon for a brand to cross segments. And Dave's has shown it can be done, correct? It went from load bread into breakfast, then breakfast and the buns, and now we're moving into the healthy snacking category. Our retail partners are genuinely enthusiastic about it, and so are consumers. As I said, we have a pipeline of items coming behind that. So it's early, but we have a duty to find new revenue streams for this business; we all know that in the mainline low segment, category dynamics are somewhat difficult there. We also know that as well as DKB and Canyon have done in their core segments, over time you have to expect those growth rates will begin to decline somewhat. And so we have a duty to identify new revenue streams, and that's what these great brands we own are allowing us to do. So I highlighted it specifically because we are so optimistic about it.

Bill Chappell

analyst
#35

Apologies, I joined the call a bit late, so parts of this may already have come up. But specifically when you look at any trade down, would you anticipate it — I don't mean as things stand today, but looking 6 months, 9 months ahead, do you think it would move to the opening price point private label, or would it just be more trade down within your own brands? Or do you not — do you not expect much at all should we slide into a deeper recession?

A. McMullian

executive
#36

Yes. We touched on this a bit earlier, but I'm happy to go over some of it again. Looking back at the previous recessionary period, we really didn't see a great deal of trade down toward private label. We've said before as well that we compete across many price points, starting at private label and going all the way to super premium, with everything in between, right? There's private label, there's Wonder, there's Nature's Own, there's Dave's, there's Canyon. So we're — there's an option for everyone in that lineup. Still, if history serves as a guide, I wouldn't anticipate a tremendous amount of trade down toward private label. I mentioned as well, Bill, that the industry today is quite different from how it was in that previous recessionary period. The industry has become more consolidated. Our company is stronger. We hold a much stronger market share than we did back in that last period, and our portfolio of brands is much stronger and significantly differentiated from private label; and consumers keep showing a preference for those products. So my outlook would be that although we might see a certain amount of trade down toward private label, that would only be natural, especially if we entered a recession, for example. I think that Flowers is well-positioned to hold up very well in that environment.

Bill Chappell

analyst
#37

Understood. And this may already have come up. But I suppose Walmart yesterday sort of emphasized bread, milk, cheese, and other items where they truly aimed to hold prices down. I think what some folks concluded was that they could begin resisting more when it comes to step-by-step price hikes going forward. I realize you won't discuss specific customers. But still, do you sense it's going to become — harder to hand along piecemeal price rises with retail? Is your operation distinct simply because it's so much vendor-managed inventory and scan-based type of pricing that it differs somewhat from other packaged food? Any insight on that would be terrific.

A. McMullian

executive
#38

Yeah. I do believe we're somewhat distinct simply owing to the service levels we give the retailer, clearly since we're DSD. I also believe it assists, and I'll say it once more, the power of the brands. I mean, it's — I don't figure you'd want to be sitting where you've got a #4 brand at this moment; so holding a portfolio of #1 brands definitely does assist. I can't say what retailers will do down the road. What I can share with you is that regarding our June 6 price increase, we've had no problem there.

Bill Chappell

analyst
#39

All right, that's helpful. One last thing from me, then. Since a portion of the CapEx has slipped, when I consider how we're deploying cash, are there other levers — would you accelerate M&A? Would you bring other projects forward? Or is this simply how CapEx behaves — it just takes a bit more time, particularly with certain construction projects right now?

R. Kinsey

executive
#40

Sure. The truth is, looking at capital allocation overall, I'd say our thinking really doesn't shift at all despite the modest capital pullback. You've obviously heard Ryals speak about M&A. From that angle, our pipeline remains quite strong. It comes down to valuation and timing. So that's always a factor. And when we consider other uses of our cash, be it dividends or stock repurchases, I'd say we're fairly — we remain fairly faithful to our philosophical views on those. So I don't expect that to change. So really, the capital pullback comes down to timing. It isn't as though we've cut projects. It's more a matter of shifting perhaps between years. So I don't believe you'll see us act in any dramatically different way from what you've witnessed before.

Bill Chappell

analyst
#41

Understood. My apologies — just one final question. Would you describe the foodservice business as basically back to its 2019 level? Or are we still recovering toward that point?

A. McMullian

executive
#42

Bill, we are still recovering toward it. Things are getting better, yet for us it remains under pre-pandemic levels. Keep in mind as well that a few of the disruptions we experienced in the quarter would have had some effect on that volume too, so both factors are at play.

A. McMullian

executive
#43

Thanks, Shannon. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to follow our company. We’re looking forward to talking with all of you again when the next quarter comes around, and we hope you all have a wonderful weekend. Take care.

Operator

operator
#44

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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