Full House Resorts, Inc. ($FLL)
Earnings Call Transcript · May 7, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
OperatorGreetings, and welcome to the Full House Resorts First Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Mr. Adam Campbell, Corporate Controller. Thank you, sir. You may begin.
Adam Campbell
ExecutivesThank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to our first quarter earnings call. As always, before we begin, we remind you that today's conference call may contain forward-looking statements that we're making under the safe harbor provision of federal security laws. I would also like to remind you that the company's actual results could differ materially from anticipated results in these forward-looking statements. Please see today's press release under the caption Forward-Looking Statements for the discussion of risks that may affect our results. Also, we may reference to non-GAAP measures such as adjusted EBITDA. For a reconciliation of these measures, please see our website as well as various press releases that we issue. Lastly, we're also broadcasting this conference call at fullhouseresorts.com, where you can find today's earnings release as well as all of our SEC filings. And with that said, we're ready to go, Lewis.
Lewis Fanger
ExecutivesGood afternoon, everyone. I will be quick with our prepared remarks today since I know there's another call that's about to start. We had a solid first quarter. Revenues were $74.4 million in the first quarter of 2026, which compares to $75.1 million in last year's first quarter. Within this, American Place was up about 7%. Also, keep in mind that last year's number included $1.3 million of revenue from Stockman's, which we sold in April of 2025. So on an apples-to-apples basis, revenues grew by 0.9% in the first quarter. Adjusted EBITDA in the first quarter of 2026 rose to $13.2 million. That's almost 15% higher than our adjusted EBITDA in last year's first quarter, which was $11.5 million. We had growth at almost all of our properties, American Place, Chamonix and Bronco Billy's, Silver Slipper and Rising Star all had large percentage increases in EBITDA. At Grand Lodge, which is our smallest property, we continue to be impacted by refurbishment work that when it's done, should meaningfully upgrade the overall experience. And regarding our sports skins last year, we had an additional active skin last year. So the decline in 2026 reflects that fact. At American Place, our temporary casino continues to show significant growth. Revenues increased by 7% to $31.8 million in the first quarter of 2026. Adjusted property EBITDA rose 8% to $8.3 million. In the first quarter of 2026, our table games hold was 1.2 percentage points lower than in last year's first quarter. For April 2026, the state's gaming revenues just came out. We had a very good April, which you probably already saw yesterday, with total gaming revenues up almost 6% versus April of 2025. Our table hold percentage was off again in April 2026. If we held as expected, our total gaming revenues would have been up almost 16% versus April of last year. Turning to Chamonix and Bronco Billy's. Our revenues were down slightly to $11.3 million from $11.6 million. Revenues were affected by several things. First, the Bronco Billy's casino was pretty torn up in January and February as we replaced carpets and installed new ceilings. The Bronco Billy's side now feels quite complementary to the Chamonix experience. Second, the unseasonably warm weather resulted in less cash business in the quarter. Two of Cripple Creek's biggest events both occur in the winter, Ice Fest and Ice Castles. They're both great experiences, and each one brings more than 100,000 people to town, but warm weather hindered those experiences and adversely affected city visitation. Third, we had some unprofitable promotional activity in the prior year period. We have an entirely new management team that joined us beginning in April of last year, and they are working to make sure that our marketing spend is much more efficient. We had a good quarter in Colorado despite those factors. In last year's first quarter, adjusted property EBITDA was minus $2.3 million. In this year's first quarter, it was minus $1.3 million, an improvement of 42%. It's a seasonal market strongly favoring the upcoming summer months. With the new property team, we've spent a lot of time focusing not just on efficiency and costs, but also on our overall marketing efforts. That analysis continues to show a huge opportunity for us that awareness and penetration into Colorado Springs remains extremely low. As guests visit us for the first time, they realize that we didn't build a commodity product of more slot machines. They realized that we created a very unique experience. We often compare Chamonix to Monarch and Black Hawk as both have similar levels of quality and are targeting a similar type of guest. The total Black Hawk gaming market, not including the neighboring casino town of Central City, was about $875 million over the last 12 months. Monarch has 1/3 of the hotel product in Black Hawk, so it's reasonable to think that they have at least 1/3 of the gaming revenue. The reality is they could be higher than that given they're skewed toward a higher-end guest. Using those numbers as a basis, our slot win per day at Chamonix and Bronco Billy's was about 1/4 of Monarch slot win per day. Our table win per day was about 16% of Monarch. Therein lies the opportunity. The numbers that Monarch is generating aren't unusual for an underserved gaming market. If we can improve our win per day figures, so they are just 45% of Monarch, and we will have earned a very good return on our investment in Chamonix. Part of that improvement will involve ramping our hotel occupancy from 41% today to the 80-plus percent that Monarch achieves. And so the marketing team is laser-focused on awareness. There are about 1 million people in the broader Colorado Springs area. There are another 400,000 people that live in the southern suburbs of Denver. That's about 1.4 million people for our 300 guestrooms and 700 gaming positions. Within that geographic spread, there are several specific ZIP codes that can meaningfully move the needle, and those ZIP codes are receiving a lot of our attention in a new digital campaign that we're rolling out. Preliminarily, April had good numbers with an estimated 9% increase in net slot win and a 20% increase in net table win. On the balance sheet side, we had about $41 million of liquidity at the end of the quarter, including the undrawn portion of our revolver. The summer season tends to be our strong season. That, combined with the lack of any major construction spend right now, should benefit overall cash flow in the near term. We've been very transparent about our efforts to fund the permanent American Place casino as well as refinance our existing debt. If you recall, we mentioned on our last earnings call that we've been working with a funding source that is prepared to fully fund construction of the permanent American Place casino. We have funded -- we have funded the gaming license, land, slot machines, temporary casino, assembly of the workforce, the mailing list, all at a total investment today of about $170 million. The new financing will provide the approximately $300 million needed to move into the permanent facility. That solution requires a lot of legal paperwork, which the team is diligently making its way through. We continue to feel very good about that solution and look forward to giving you more details once we can, potentially in the next few weeks. We are confident enough on that financing that we expect to commence construction within the next few weeks. The early stages of construction take time, but not much capital. By starting now, we hope to open the permanent American Place about 2 years from now. Our earthmoving drawings were approved a couple of weeks ago by the City of Waukegan, and we are working to obtain the other government approvals needed to begin construction. We have put together a good construction team that is well versed in building regional as well as destination casinos. They include Power Construction, which is currently building the new Hollywood Casino in Aurora, Illinois. They're one of the largest builders in the Chicagoland area. We have W.A. Richardson Builders, who will act in an oversight role. They're one of the largest construction firms here in Las Vegas and have great experience developing casinos from their days at Mandalay Resort Group, including the Grand Victoria casino in Elgin, Illinois. They also recently built the Fontainebleau and Durango resorts here in Las Vegas. And then we have WATG as architects. Their team has a long list of hospitality projects under their belts, including the Venetian in Las Vegas and the Hard Rock in Rockford, Illinois. Lastly, we're currently allowed to operate our temporary casino until August of 2027. In conjunction with our anticipated financing, a bill was introduced into the Illinois legislature to extend that date by 18 months. That would ensure a smooth transition from the temporary to the permanent, including continuation of the approximately $30 million per year in gaming and other state taxes that we currently pay. Typically, items like this in the legislature are voted on late in the session, which ends on May 31. That's everything I had, Dan, what I missed?
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesI think you got it. We'll go to questions. All right. We'll find out from the public. What we missed.
Operator
Operator[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Jordan Bender with Citizens Bank.
Jordan Bender
AnalystsMaybe not the quarter that you wanted necessarily in Colorado, but on the expense, that continues to look better. I see my math gets me to expenses down about 10% in the quarter. How much more do you guys think you have left to take out if we don't get any material revenue uplift from here?
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesWell, there's a lot of blocking and tackling that's happened, and we'll continue to control the cost. But there's stuff like we have an outsourced housekeeping service, which they only clean like 9 rooms a day, and we end up paying for that. Down at the Silver Slipper, we clean 14 rooms a day. So we're looking to bring that in-house, and we have to hire about 30 housekeepers to do that. Our laundry service, we think we can get more efficient. We hired an AGM in the first quarter who has a background in hospitality and food and beverage, and he was in a similar role at the Ameristar in Council Bluffs and before that, the Ameristar in East Chicago. And a real good guy, and he'll -- and he's working on that sort of thing. We also hired a Finance Director in the first quarter. And frankly, we are getting much better reports, reporting out of it, and that's helpful. But to really get to where we want to be, we need to improve the revenues. And we've got a lot of new marketing people working on that, and it's much more sophisticated than it was a year ago. And it's a constant process to try to make the marketing spend more efficient and targeted, like Lewis mentioned, digitally approaching certain ZIP codes. I mean that's a more efficient way to do it and so on. So there's a lot of different aspects to this. One of the other things we're looking at doing, of course, the business there is very -- like most casinos slanted towards the weekend. And so you're trying to hire people in a somewhat difficult place to hire them up in the mountains. So we're looking at going out and offering people like a $5 an hour premium if somebody only wants to work on weekends. And the kind of the back story on that is if somebody is willing to go on their payroll working only, say, Friday and Saturday, they will not qualify for the health plan because it's less than 32 hours a week. And the health plan cost us more than $5 an hour per employee. And so you might find somebody who's already gainfully employed or maybe they're retired non-Medicare, but they kind of like the idea of being a barista in our coffee place on Saturday morning it gets them out of the house. We'd love to have that employee. And so we're looking at all sorts of ways to be more thoughtful and efficient and effective. And it doesn't happen overnight, but it is happening. And frankly, the April numbers are pretty encouraging because I kind of feel like we've got our footing on the marketing stuff, and we're starting to show really strong numbers. And April was a good month. The first part of May looks pretty good so far. And hopefully, we just continue to build on that going into the summer. So we are controlling costs. But ultimately, it's about growing the revenues.
Lewis Fanger
ExecutivesAnd those incremental revenues, that you probably heard me say this before. At this point, the cost structure is pretty fully baked. And so the flow-through from those incremental revenues is going to be -- should be pretty steep.
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesWe did -- we had a Mexican restaurant that was called Baha Bill that went closed for a while, and we revamped it. We promoted from within a new food and beverage manager who's a very talented chef, and he did a phenomenal job on new menus and recipes and so on. I'd argue we probably have the best Mexican restaurant in Colorado at this point. And we renamed it Don Juan, which is kind of a fun name. And we also tied it into the elevator to get to it. And so we did that. We're going to start offering a brunch on Saturdays and Sundays in 980 Prime, which is a wonderful venue for a brunch. So -- and -- but we're doing it in ways where we know on Fridays and on Saturdays and Sundays, there's demand for that brunch. And we're not doing it every day of the week, so.
Jordan Bender
AnalystsGreat. And on the follow-up, good to hear in Waukegan and that's going to get going here in the next couple of weeks. Just curious your view on the casino and the proposal up in Kenosha and kind of where that stands and kind of how you guys underwrite that property in relation to yours.
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesFirst off, our customers primarily come from Lake County. And to the extent they come from outside of Lake County, it tilts towards the south. If you drive north from us to Kenosha, there's some farmland out there. So there's kind of a gap. They would have a much bigger impact on the Potawatomi in Downtown Minneapolis than they would -- or Downtown Milwaukee than they would to us. And that tribe is pretty powerful. So I think -- which brings up the second question, do they ever get there? They've been working on this for 20 years. This is not an Indian tribe from Kenosha. This is an Indian tribe of Ho-Chink, we have a small casino, a couple of hundred miles away from that in the middle of Wisconsin. So they're trying to create a whole new piece of land and reservation trust that is strictly for commercial purposes to really cut into the Potawatomi business. So it's more of a tribal war than it is for us. And I don't think it would have much impact on us. And I think if they get there, it's going to take them a long time. Like if everything went smoothly for them, it'd be a few years before they got open. And even when they did get open, I don't think it has much impact on us. My first guess is they never get there because what they're trying to do is not easy, where you're not -- it's one thing if you're a poor Indian tribe trying to get a casino on your reservation, you're somebody that deserves empathy, if you will. This is not a poor Indian tribe trying to get a casino on their reservation. This is reservation shopping and trying to get a casino in a commercially better spot than where their existing casino is. I think they have 2 or 3 up in the middle of Wisconsin. And so it takes a lot of different regulatory approvals and state approvals, and there are a long ways from having it.
Lewis Fanger
ExecutivesYes. I will tell you that the legal hurdles preventing that are still -- it's still a very, very long list.
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesYou know where this really gets us news. There is an analyst out there who is negative on us, and he brings us up every time. And it's like if you didn't have this, he'd have something else. And I heard yesterday that he was telling -- I remember 6 months ago, he was telling everybody to invest in the Affinity bonds instead of us. And it was with great pleasure to tell you that Affinity is shutting everything down they have on prem. So he's got some mud on his face, and that mud is getting thicker by the day.
Operator
OperatorOur next question comes from the line of Ryan Sigdahl with Craig-Hallum Capital Group.
Ryan Sigdahl
AnalystsOn the financing for American Place, good to hear the progress. I should hear something in the next couple of weeks is fantastic. On the last call, Q4 call, Dan, you referred to it as acceptable terms. Lewis, you referred to it as attractive terms. Curious if you could give an update on anything on how it's trending at the moment.
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesWe're not a AAA credit. So we're not borrowing money at 5%, but it's also not 15%. We think we can get our existing debt refinanced and the incremental money and all be not a little bit higher than where our debt is today, but not much.
Lewis Fanger
ExecutivesYes. I was going to say I don't have anything to add other than what we said. I mean, I don't think -- knock on wood, I don't think you're going to have to wait too much longer. But we -- I will tell you that the amount of work that's happened behind the scenes has been extensive. And so we continue to push forward and certainly feel better about where we are today than we did that last earnings call.
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesYes. And listen, it's understandable the firm on the other side of this doesn't want us to disclose their name or details until we have the final doc signed. And so we're working to try to do that. And that's understandable. And then that will be done. And look, on the positive side, I mean, the world has been such s*** show lately with everything going on in the Middle East and everything and the high-yield market is hung in there. It's been pretty stable through all this, which is somewhat remarkable. And that's encouraging.
Lewis Fanger
ExecutivesThe high-yield markets have held up. American Place has continued to display pretty strong numbers. Chamonix is starting to hit its stride. I mean there's a lot of good that's happening. So it's -- all in, I think we're sitting in a good spot.
Ryan Sigdahl
AnalystsGood. Chamonix is a transition. So good to see kind of the scrappy nature of finding cost efficiencies across that entire property. But ultimately, to go from going from losing a couple of million in EBITDA to making a couple of million, but we kind of want to get to tens of millions, you probably have to really start to ramp the revenue as well. Have you had any, I guess, renewed thoughts around kind of how to drive that new customer to try the property and really start to build the base of business there on the revenue?
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesYes. We have a -- kind of on all cylinders here. I mean, we now have a 4-person sales force, and we're looking for another person who are just focused on meetings and conventions. And they are putting quite a bit on the books, but that stuff is ahead of time. So it really starts to bear fruit in 2027, 2028. We have a new advertising agency. We have a Chief Marketing Officer here. We have a new Director of Marketing at the property. We have an advertising person here that we've added. So there's a lot of stuff, and we've subscribed to some third-party, what do I call, research firms, I guess, who are giving us much more detail on not only who our customers are, but who's out there. So we're getting a lot more sophisticated in our targeting and how we go. And we started -- April was the first month where we say, okay, this is starting to bear fruit. And hopefully, we will continue to show good results every month going forward. And some months, you're going to have off win percentage or something, but I think we have a base to build on. And listen, we lost only a little bit of money through the worst part of the year seasonally. And so we will end up making money this year, not as much as we'd like, given our investment, but I think it forms a good base this year and then better results next year. We've also -- even on the other side, we've been working with the city of Cripple Creek to get them more focused on how to build it as a destination. If you pull up Telluride, Colorado, which, believe it or not, the population of Telluride is not that much more than Cripple Creek. And of course, they have a famous ski area, but they are 4.5 hours many metropolitan area, closest metropolitan area to Telluride is Albuquerque. They have like a festival every weekend all year long. And everything from country music festival to film festival. Actually, the one that's kind of intriguing is they have a mushroom festival. In Colorado, what do they do at a mushroom festival, but they have one. And our single biggest weekend of the year is Ice Festival, where the city buys blocks of ice, puts spot on the street and people carve them with chainsaws and stuff. And I know it sounds kind of hokey, but it gives people the excuse to come up. And so our biggest weekend of the year is in the middle of the winter when normally we are summer seasonal. And so we're now working with the city who's hired a new Director of Marketing to let's have more of these festivals. So let's have dream up everything. And so we just celebrated Cinco de Mayo. How do we do more of that? And so we're doing a lot of this, and the city is starting to get smarter about it. And because this little town has the potential of being a pretty significant destination for people from Colorado Springs and Denver. But you've got to get them up there, so.
Lewis Fanger
ExecutivesPeople do forget sometimes and not on them. A lot of you guys haven't been around as long as we have, not to make myself sound old. But I mean, if you go back to when Ameristar opened, Ameristar took over their property in Black Hawk back in 2006 or I should say -- I take it back a step. They launched and rebranded and expanded a much nicer Black Hawk casino in 2006. They opened up their hotel tower in 2009. It was a multiyear.
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesIt's a failed Hyatt casino what they took over.
Lewis Fanger
Executives100%. Yes. And if you compare their revenues from 2005 to 2010 over those 5 years, the growth in gaming revenues was -- the CAGR, the 5-year CAGR was like 24%. It's phenomenal. But what people forget is they were the ones that kind of reinvented that market and said, look, guys, there is actually something nice in Colorado to go and gamble at. And what Monarch has benefited from was that 20 years ago, someone changed the mentality in Denver and said, guys, there's something nice. And so when Monarch opened, he already had people accustomed to a nicer building walking through -- walking up and down the streets of Black Hawk. We didn't have that. We're only starting to get that. And when we look at the penetration, when I say it's massively low, like some of the ZIP codes that I mentioned, we have like 8% penetration. There's no reason why it should be that low. And so why are we focusing the digital effort, that's exactly the reason why. We're not talking about finding hundreds of thousands of new people. We're talking about finding 20,000 new people to bring into the building on a regular basis. That's what moves the needle to a very good investment. So stay tuned. I feel very, very good. We feel very good about where the marketing sits right now. The marketing team, as Dan mentioned, we brought in a new Director of Marketing, but we brought in a new ad agency as well. They started late in the fourth quarter. It took them a few months to get kind of their hands around things. So their true efforts didn't really launch until March. There's a lot there, but we're showing very, very good signs in April. May is off to a good start. And again, look at the punt penetration stats and the win per day stats that I mentioned earlier in the call. I think it's harder to think that we can't achieve those than we can.
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesActually, the -- sometimes we're so used to the numbers. The American Gaming Association has a survey that shows that 30% of American adults visited a casino within the past 12 months. Now that's the U.S. average, 30%. And Colorado Springs is less than 1/3 of that.
Ryan Sigdahl
AnalystsVery good. Dan, well, you never fail to have me learn something new in Mushroom Festival is what -- well done. I look forward to a 24% CAGR over the next 5 years, Lewis.
Operator
OperatorOur next question comes from the line of John DeCree with CBRE.
Maxwell James Marsh
AnalystsThis is Max Marsh on for John. Still clearly in the early innings of GGR penetration in Colorado Springs, but is there any difference in what you guys are seeing on the database side? Any insight into the database sign-up trends would be helpful.
Lewis Fanger
ExecutivesYes. I mean the database trends are good. If you look in the month of April, as an example, new sign-ups were up 12%, rated visits up 19%. Win per rated visit is up like 14%. So short answer is that the trends are good. We continue to grow the database pretty meaningfully, but we're also bringing in a higher volume or higher rated guests into the door, so.
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesSo by the way, I'm kind of smiling here because he's reading that off a daily operating report. We hired a new Finance Director from outside of the casino business. He got a lot of experience in the hotel business. And he's gotten it organized pretty fast. And a year ago, we wouldn't have had those April numbers by this point in May. And if we had them, they were probably not reliable. And now we're getting them on a daily basis, and they are quite reliable. And that's one of the first steps in getting this thing going well, so.
Maxwell James Marsh
AnalystsGreat. And could you give us a little bit more detail about what's driving the growth at Silver Slipper? I know we have a new management team there as well. Is that coming from better OpEx management? Or could there be some broader tailwinds there?
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesA little bit of both.
Lewis Fanger
ExecutivesYes. I was going to say it's probably a little more on the OpEx side versus the revenue side, but it's a little bit of both. On the OpEx side, look, we just have a new GM there. She's not a surprise looking at things differently than the prior GM and is finding more efficient ways to do some of what we're doing. So I think a big part of it has been on the marketing side and just trying to be smarter about the marketing dollars that go out the door. Spend -- it's an example I've used with a few of you, so you may have heard it. But as an example, we used to have a weekly Seniors Day where we would give you a breakfast buffet for $0.99. And what we found out was that a nearby senior center was bringing people in for their weekly free or close to free breakfast. And when we ran the numbers as to how many of those people were actually in the database and gambling in the casino, the answer was very, very few. And so it's just taking a fresh look at different marketing ideas and making sure that the return is there.
Operator
OperatorOur next question comes from the line of Chad Beynon with Macquarie.
Samir Ghafir
AnalystsThis is Sam on for Chad. Switching over to Waukegan. Now that you guys have made more progress towards the permanent construction of that property, any updated thoughts on the earnings power of that property? I know in the past, $90 million EBITDA was put out there. Any update or color on the time line to get to that point and what's needed to get to that level?
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesEven the temporary continues to progress. I mean the run rate today is in the ballpark of $40 million per year of [ EBDIT ], which is -- if you start thinking about -- we've kind of indicated that it takes about $300 million to build the permanent and that the cost of that money is probably a little higher than our existing bonds, but use 10% for a big round number, right? 10% on $300 million is $30 million a year. Well, the permanent casino is twice the size of the temporary in terms of square footage. It has more restaurants, it's a much better street appeal, much better decor. In terms of slots and tables, it's not quite double, but it's up significantly. And so we expect the permanent to do much more business than the temporary. And there are a lot of examples like the Hard Rock in Rockford, which also went from a temporary to a permanent and their revenues doubled. You see it in the Hollywood in Joliette that moved from an old boat to a permanent building. You see it in New Orleans with Treasure Chest, what's South Carolina? No, Virginia, there's one. There's a few around that where people went from temporary to permanent. And in every case, it has shown a big increase in revenues and profitability. So we do think it gets to $100 million. You said $90 million. I actually think it's $100 million. It doesn't happen overnight. It might take 3 years or something. So if it takes us 2 years to build, it gets open 2 years from now, then 5 years from now, it's doing $100 million.
Lewis Fanger
ExecutivesWe see it. It doesn't happen overnight, although all the examples we just threw out, if it happen overnight. But nonetheless, we assume that it does not happen over.
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesWell, I think even in the temporary continues to grow. At some point, you start to -- I mean, our win per slot machine per day is pretty high in the temporary casino. So at some point, you start to kind of max out on weekends. And -- but I think we'll continue to show growth even when we build the permanent and then you'll have a step to a new plateau in the permanent and then it will grow from there.
Samir Ghafir
AnalystsAppreciate that. And then switching over to your guys' sports games. Wondering on the outlook for those, if you guys see upside or downside to the current run rate EBITDA related to those sports contracts over the next few years?
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesAt this point, we only have 2 -- the one in Indian -- in that industry, we used to have agreements with Wynn and Churchill downs and some markets. But DraftKings and FanDuel and to a lesser extent, MGM have moved in and so dominated the market that a lot of these other guys have pulled away. So we have one, which is markets in Indiana. They paid us in advance because for a while, they had not been paying us. And so we said, well, if you want to extend the contract, fine, but you got to pay us in advance. So the accountants will let us book it all at once, but we already have the money. So we're going to get that income over time for 3 years.
Lewis Fanger
Executives7 years, 7 years.
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesOh my God, you're stretching that over 7 years.
Lewis Fanger
ExecutivesThat was the initial access fee.
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesThe other one is with Circa, who is a niche player. I mean their sportsbook here in Las Vegas is probably the biggest single sportsbook in the country, and they have a good forte with that. And in Illinois, you only get 1 license. We had 3 skins for our license in Indiana, and we also had 3 skins in Colorado. We only have 1 in Illinois. And of course, the population of Illinois is much bigger. And so that is by far the most valuable skin, and that's with Circa, and I think they're doing okay. They know that business probably better than anybody, and they're good at it.
Lewis Fanger
ExecutivesAnd we'll have a beautiful sportsbook, permanent sports book in our new facility, which I think they're quite excited for.
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesAnd we continue to look for people who want to get into the sports business. And quite frankly, at this point, there aren't a lot of new companies looking to get in and so dominated by DraftKings and FanDuel.
Lewis Fanger
ExecutivesYes. I will say on the flip side, not that I expect this to happen anytime soon, but our agreements only include sports betting. They don't include anything for true online casinos. And so to the extent that, that were to ever happen, there is the potential for more upside as we monetize on that bit. That -- anyway, so.
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesActually, having said that, I've forgotten. In Tahoe, we had a tiny sportsbook that had been run for a long time by William Hill. And there's a guy who used to be CEO of William Hill, who started as a new company. His is name is?
Lewis Fanger
Executives[ Boomers ]
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesBoomers. And he came to us and made us an offer and he's paying us significantly more in rent than we were getting. It's still not a big number, but it's, what, 3x what it used to be.
Lewis Fanger
Executives2x, 2x I think.
Daniel Lee
Executives2x and he's promoting it much more than William Hill was. And so you do sometimes have new entrants. Now he's not online. He's just -- and then it's interesting in the sports betting companies, including DraftKings and FanDuel, are having to deal with the competition from the -- what do you call those Kalshi and...
Lewis Fanger
ExecutivesPrediction markets.
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesPrediction markets, right? And so they have started branches where they're going into the prediction markets because under the auspices of being commodities trading firms, these companies are offering sports betting in places like Texas and California, where it's not been legal, and they're doing it without paying any state income taxes. Well, from DraftKings and FanDuel, that's like, well, if they could do it, why can't we do it? Well, Nevada came out and said, well, if you do, do that, then you can't operate in Nevada. So they both backed away from operating in Nevada. And that opened the opportunity for Boomers and who is not going to try to operate elsewhere.
Lewis Fanger
ExecutivesYou said income taxes. I think, my gaming taxes.
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesI meant gaming taxes.
Lewis Fanger
ExecutivesI don't know if they pay income or not. Yes.
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesYes. So there's a little turmoil there with -- and we'll see where it goes because from the gaming industry's perspective, the idea that somebody can start taking bets on the Super Bowl in Texas without any approval of the Texas legislature and the fact that in the Texas constitution, it forbids gambling, and it's very hard to change that in the constitution. But these people are offering Super Bowl bets in places like Texas and unregulated, untaxed. And not surprisingly, they're probably making pretty good money with it.
Operator
OperatorThere are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back over to Full House Resorts CEO, Daniel Lee, for any closing remarks.
Daniel Lee
ExecutivesWell, just we're making progress, making good progress. And I think it's going to be an exciting quarter because we're going to get under construction, we're going to get this financing done. And by the way, we don't take this lightly, but the starting construction will cost us a couple of million bucks. And you don't normally want to do that unless you're certain you have the money to finish. And we're confident enough that this financing is going to come through that we are going to start because otherwise, the opening date keeps lighting. And the initial stages of construction are guys driving bulldozers around. It's not a lot of money. And so we're going to go ahead and start because we're pretty confident that it's all going to come together here. Thank you.
Operator
OperatorThank you. This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation, and have a wonderful day.
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