GLOBALFOUNDRIES Inc. (GFS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
May 22, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Harlan Sur
analystAll right. Let's go ahead and get started. Well, good afternoon, and again, welcome to the first day of JPMorgan's 51st Annual Technology Media and Communications Conference. My name is Harlan Sur. I'm the semiconductor and semiconductor capital equipment analyst for the firm. I'm very pleased to have Tom Caulfield, President and Chief Executive Officer of GlobalFoundries. GlobalFoundries is the third largest semiconductor founder in the world, leader in specialty and mature manufacturing technologies targeted as segments such as analog, power management, RF, wireless, wired networking connectivity, targeting the communications infrastructure, mobile IoT automotive and industrial markets. Team reported strong results just a couple of weeks ago. So Tom, thanks for joining us today.
Thomas Caulfield
executiveThank you, Harlan. Appreciate the invite.
Harlan Sur
analystSure. Maybe a good place to start off with is given some of the cyclical headwinds that we're seeing across the industry, clearly, we are in the midst of a cyclical downturn. You overlay that with a weaker global macroeconomic environment. Maybe if you could just share your thoughts on the current state of the semiconductor industry and the impact on GlobalFoundries' recent earnings results?
Thomas Caulfield
executiveSo we went into this year listening to our customers' view of what they saw ahead. They saw a weak first half, strong second half. Remember, most of these customers and the products we build for them are under long-term agreement. And so we felt if they thought there was a strong second half, we had to be ready for that. The same token in fourth quarter of 2022, we took some actions to get ready in case there wasn't a strong second half. We committed to take $200 million of costs out of our business. So here we go, we get into Q1, we start to see that inventory is not coming down as fast as we thought. We actually saw in Q1 as many customers had inventory going up that had going down, which kind of told us we were at the peak of inventory, which is the bottom of the of the market. We've made our guidance, but remember, our business is built more in growth through the year. And how we see the rest of the year is until we start to see real change in the macroeconomic condition, we think we're at a bottom that we'll have a slow recovery, too. So we'll have quarter-on-quarter-on-quarter growth through the rest of this year. But until we see a real catalyst, we're not going to be more bullish than to a modest growth of revenue. And that may push till 2024 before we see a real bump in demand.
Harlan Sur
analystDo you see your customers -- I feel like one of the distinguishing features every cycle is semiconductor customers -- your semiconductor companies, your customers continue to get more disciplined every single cycle. So pulling back sooner, pulling back deeper, trying to flush out those excess inventories. Is that something that you observe over the past number of cycles?
Thomas Caulfield
executiveLook, I think the discipline is an important part of every market. And typically, it starts with rational behavior. Rational behavior is you don't chase streams, you don't -- for foundry like GF, you don't build speculative capacity and hope someone fills it. You do it like we do it. And we have a criteria, it's called certainty, durability and profitability. We don't have CCD. That's not charge-coupled device that's committed customer demand. We don't build capacity. We're not a product company. We're a manufacturing services company. We make capacity for our customers' needs. Durability that is capacity that we put on that has legs to it, that it's in market segments and technology nodes that have a long run. And then the profitability is about we need competitive returns on our investment. Our return on invested capital should not be less than anybody else's. And so with that as the premise, it's about rational behavior, right? I really feel in many ways the foundry industry had to get the kind of consolidation we're sitting at now to get that more rational and disciplined behavior. What does it drive? It drives our customers to be that way, too. When all they needed to do was to give a forecast and not be committed to it, but have the foundry actually committed to that capacity even if the customer wasn't committed to it. It created odd dynamic -- it actually was easy not to be disciplined because you weren't liable for that capacity. Well, when you're in a long-term agreement, you're going to be really thoughtful about what you're going to sign up to. You want to protect your business with certainty. You don't want to overstretch because then you may create capacity that's for your use that you don't need. And so I see a lot of discipline in the industry. And it's all driven in the fact that we're on partnerships in creating capacity. So both of our businesses benefit from that certainty we create.
Harlan Sur
analystYes. So as a follow-up to that, the team has done a really good job at navigating through the current industry downturn. You had 1 quarter of sequential declines. You anticipate your full year revenues being down mid- to high single-digit percentage points. When your peers are down low to mid-teens, your customers are down 10% to 20%, you've also managed a better utilization profile than peers and you have strong end market diversification. But I believe it's really the -- as you mentioned, close partnerships you have with customers via your long-term agreements or LTAs, right, that have helped position you better through this cycle. So with the long-term agreement, LTA in place, it seems like customers are more responsive, potentially enabling you to reallocate capacity, wafer starts maybe reallocate them more efficiently. So help us understand the benefits of the LTAs in helping the team weather this down cycle and what other dynamics are helping the team sort of cushion this blow.
Thomas Caulfield
executiveYes. I want to be really long-winded on this, but I think it tells a really important story because it's always about what you commit and then what you deliver. The investment thesis at our IPO, it will be -- we're 1.5 years into our IPO. We started our road show August of 2021. And the investment thesis was -- look, GF will grow with the market, maybe a little bit better, but more importantly, improve its profitability multiples of that. GF has certainty in the business because we signed these long-term agreements that gave us the visibility we needed to make these investments and get those returns. The believers in the sector invested, the nonbelievers say, yes, it's always good in an upmarket. Let's see what happens in a downturn. Now no one wants a downturn, but at least this downturn is proving the investment thesis holds. You talked about our revenues down, not down as much as others. A lot of that is the LTAs, and we'll get back to that in a moment. A lot of that is the broad range of end markets we play in. Our automotive business in a down year for the industry is growing 2.5x, right, offsetting some of the softness in other end segments. The way you win in this industry is in the downturn, you hold a line on your profitability and then you can build up from there. And so LTAs are holding up, our business is holding up. The people that said, let's see what you do in a downturn to perform are now seeing what we do in a downturn. And a big part of it is the LTAs where it sounds like it's such an interesting concept, a novel concept for this industry, any other industry would have seen this as like a normal practice. If 1 company is making investments specific for another company, because like GF doesn't make products, we make a manufacturing service. Why wouldn't both companies be obligated to make that investment in a way where we create certainty for one another. When we were doing long-term agreements, our customers wanted those long-term agreements as much as we did. They needed to know that the capacity was there for their growth. They needed to know that when they do show up for that capacity, someone else didn't come in and say they outbid them. And all of a sudden, they're paying 30%, 40% more for it. And so in a downturn, that same certainty that we wanted in the upturn has to be there for it. And so our customers have found many ways to discuss and work with us. Some of them have actually decided to take underutilization charges. Hey, we'll take some of that liability, and we'll just pay for it not to use that capacity. No one wants to put more inventory to a channel that's already -- the one wins in that, it just prolongs the inventory correction. Some of them said, "Look, let's add a couple of years to this agreement and preserve the economic value, the net present value by adding. And so there are a lot of different ways we can flex to work with our customers, so we both get the intent, the economic and business intent of the LTAs. By the way, in situations where -- we have capacity, one customer reserve doesn't need as much of it and another customer needed more. We don't look to double dip. If we could find other uses of that capacity, we'll work to go do that because the premise of the LTA once again was to create balanced partnership to make investments with that level of certainty in performing against those contracts.
Harlan Sur
analystLet's talk about the manufacturing footprint. In terms of your capacity ramp, you're on track to increase your capacity, about 2.8 million wafer starts this year with an annual capacity reaching 3 million wafers in 2025. Walk us through the capacity expansion across your fab network, time lines to get to your targets? And has the recent end demand weakness pushed out your CapEx or expansion plans a bit?
Thomas Caulfield
executiveOkay. A lot to unpack there. Let me start with. So we have a global footprint. One of the things that I think really makes us special is we create supply chain, economic and sovereign security and being able to build products around the world for our customers. Any time you have high concentration, you create single points of failure is that for a lot of good and bad reasons, could cause issues. So we manufacture in Dresden, Germany. We have a partnership to grow capacity over time in -- with STMicro in Crolles, France. We have fabs in Upstate New York in Malta, New York and Vermont -- Burlington, Vermont, and of course, our Singapore facility. That's our global footprint. How do we invest? To invest in greenfield is hugely expensive. It has higher CapEx. It has longer time to profit you have to create a whole ecosystem of an enablement around it. I know this firsthand. When I joined GF, I was the executive brought in to go ramp Fab 8 in Malta, New York. And it was 3 years of a lot of economic pain. So what our strategy is, as we build out where our footprint exists. We already have a global footprint. We don't need to create a global footprint. We need to leverage that and add capacity in a very modular way. And think about it, if we build a factory next to an existing factory, the first tools we put in the new capacity are relieving pinch points in the existing factories. So we get time to market or time to do revenues much faster. And high level of capital efficiency. If you go in a greenfield, you have to put some 600, 700 tools just to get 1 wafer out. So the time to create -- spend money in to money coming out is much longer. So how do we invest? We invest with customer commitments to that supply. So you talk about 3 million wafers. If you take our ASP that we talked about in Q1, consider that stays flat, that's about $3,000 a wafer. So 3 million wafers times $3,000, that's $9 billion. That's just wafer revenue. We typically do 10% to 12% nonwafer revenue. You can argue that by the time we're done investing this year, $2.25 billion that we have positioned the company to grow to $10 billion. So high-7s, kind of the guidance we gave, growing to $10 billion with very little capital investment required beyond what we're doing this year. So going back to the investment thesis, 40% gross margin, long-term model, 25% income and get to $10 billion in revenue and become a free cash flow business because now you have enough scale to spend 20% to 25% of revenue on CapEx, still have money left over for free cash flow. But where are we on that? Free cash flow starts this year. And as soon as we ramp to that $10 billion, we'll continue to be free cash flow positive and beyond that. That's where are we at 40%. We're holding the line on gross margin in a downturn. That coupled with the scale we're going to get to grow to $10 billion, coupled with nearly 2 years of design wins since we started to contemplate going IPO. Every one of those design wins in aggregate are accretive to our long-term model, not to where we sit today. So high confidence that we will deliver our long-term model of 40% gross margins, that type of net income. And once we hit $10 million be free cash flow positive, which means it starts now since we've already -- at the end of this year, we're done with our investment to get to $10 billion. Very long-winded, wasn't it?
Harlan Sur
analystNo, it was great. It was a great answer. And the team just acquired more land, right, in Malta?
Thomas Caulfield
executiveYes.
Harlan Sur
analystTalk to us about the time line for building out that part of your multi-fab network.
Thomas Caulfield
executiveSo that's Upstate New York. We acquired the land required to build that extra capacity. It's more than just the footprint of the fab. You need to have extra land for the staging and the materials build. You need a certain amount of buffer around your building for affluence. So it's going to allow us to at least double the scale of that facility. What's important is, again, back to our model for how we invest with certainty, durability and profitability. The U.S. CHIPS Act is an important element of closing that economic gap. And as we work with customers and start to think about their demand going forward, when we'll be ready to go put a shovel in the ground and create that capacity. But before you even get there, there's still room within our fab to expand within that brick-and-mortar to add some more capacity. And that's the first thing we'll fund first. And in fact, that's the first part of what our -- when we -- our chips application will look at a 2-phase approach to expansion of multi New York, one to fill out where we already have brick-and-mortar for and then a second investment to grow. And for me, that's something that will take place 2025 and beyond.
Harlan Sur
analystYes. And that's a good segue to my next question, which is the team has a very strong government relations team. We saw that the EU and French government recently approved the grant funding in relation to your partnership with ST, right in Crolles. So would you mind just maybe giving us an update on that program? And more broadly, the opportunities for GlobalFoundries that you see under the CHIPS Act that you mentioned here in the U.S. And when we might expect to hear further announcements on these initiatives?
Thomas Caulfield
executiveWell, the chip spills in kind of full throttle right now, applications and the like. And they really want to kind of keep that quiet. But suffice it to say, we have plans and ambitions to continue to grow our global footprint. We're an important player in the U.S., and there's no reason we shouldn't under the right conditions, expand that capacity. With respect to our program in France is -- it was very important for President Macron and Minister -- Finance Minister, Bruno Le Maire, to create more economic supply chain and sovereign security through having semiconductors manufactured in France. They saw GF as a great opportunity for that, but Jeff was not going to do a greenfield for all the reasons we spoke about. So in partnership with STMicro, who has a facility in Crolles, beautiful place in the alps, what was in it for them was to create even bigger scale to get better economics. What's in it for us is to leverage their scale. And so we partnered with STMicro and the French government to go create a profitable set of capacity that will build as customer demand comes along. So there's really no time frame in that. It's going to be timed to the market condition. And that capacity, plus anything we do in New York that we just spoke about or even building out our footprint in Dresden is beyond that $10 billion type of revenue number. So it's our job for GF to grow with this market, this industry should double in the next 8 years or so, and there's no reason GF shouldn't double. And we're going to need that capacity to do that, but we'll need it at the right time under the right economic situation.
Harlan Sur
analystJust sort of went under everybody's radar screen, but we had the approval of the National Defense Authorization Act, right, the NDAA, I think it was in mid-December. And people tend to think about the NDAA as, yes, it's the defense budget authorization, right, for the following fiscal year. But it actually did place further restrictions on China-based semiconductor content in U.S. government applications and equipment. And it seems that this combined with all of the supply chain disruptions that we've had over the past 3 years, post the COVID reopening, is really motivating your large U.S. auto OEMs, industrial OEMs and so on, right, to diversify their manufacturing footprint away from Asia-based suppliers. So given the announcements you made with large-scale customers such as General Motors, Qualcomm, I mean, how are these dynamics playing into the decision-making amongst the customers to drive more and newer engagements with these constituents?
Thomas Caulfield
executiveYes. In a phrase, I'd say we're in the early innings of that dynamic. It's really inconvenient for a supply chain that's been developed and honed and made efficient over the last 3 decades to immediately disappear overnight. But there is a recognition that for security reasons, for the inability to maybe operate that more balance is required. So here's what we're seeing. Western companies are still thinking through how they want to change that dynamic. They're certainly not going to go back and redesign old part numbers into a different global footprint like GF's. They're certainly thinking about future designs. But none of that is really baked into our model going forward. It doesn't mean we don't think it's going to happen, but until we see it. Now the other end of this is there's this worry that maybe China is overinvesting and it would hurt the foundry players like GF because there'll be overcapacity. I'll tell you 1 thing I am seeing. Our customers may not be designing fast out of China. They're certainly not putting more into China. So there will be capacity in China and may be excessive, but it's not going to hurt a foundry like GF because our customers are not going to do more volume there. The other thing we're seeing that, that surprised me at first, but then when I thought about it, it made a lot of sense, the customers that are the most anxious to move out of Taiwan and China are the Taiwanese fabless and the China fabless companies. Taiwanese fabless say, look, if there's some kind of geopolitical dimension that blockades our ability to use Taiwanese foundries, we could service our customers in the Western world through GF's global footprint. And so they're moving. And we'll start to see some design wins just based on moving products from Taiwan into the U.S., same thing with some of our Chinese customers. And I think you'll see more of the Western companies figuring out how they're going to go deal with this inconvenience of the East versus West. And look, it's not going to happen overnight. It doesn't matter the investments that China is putting in. For the real endgame of this industry, it could be there is a Western and Eastern supply chain for semiconductors, 2 different ecosystems, highly inefficient, but it probably is what it's going to be, but it's going to take a decade. It's not going to happen overnight.
Harlan Sur
analystLet's talk about some of your end markets and some of the diversification strategies, customer-wise and market-wise. And I'd like to focus on the automotive business because you touched upon it in some of your answers here. The team more than doubled the automotive business year-over-year in the first quarter. You're on track to drive $1 billion in revenues this year in automotive from $375 million, right? 2.5x growth, as you mentioned. GlobalFoundries is broadly engaged with most of the auto OEMs, tier 1 auto suppliers, auto semiconductor companies, so the entire value chain, right? You secured $2 billion of long-term agreements last year in automotive. So based on the current design win, ramp-up profile, I mean, how should we think about the revenue trajectory for automotive? And what do you think the revenue mix in auto looks like over the next 3 to 5 years?
Thomas Caulfield
executiveYes. So beauty of the tiering is small numbers, you could look like you have really high percentage growth rates, but you're starting in 2020 with like $75 million of revenue. But it's substantial this year, $375 million last year. We're going to bump our head on $1 billion. We think it's an important market for us, and I'll give you the answer to where I think it's going in a moment because it's a market that requires where we play. It doesn't need a lot of high-speed digital computation. It needs a lot of analog, mixed signal, high frequency, whether it's connecting the car or autonomous driving the car. This transition from internal combustion to what we call ACE, autonomous connected electrified car, plays to all the technology nodes that GF invest in. So it's an important market because it's accretive to our business. It typically commands higher price because it has higher reliability because of the mission-critical applications. And so if we stopped any activity today in automotive and just harvest it for the rest of the momentum we have going into it. That business easily doubles from the $1 billion today. But we're not stopping there. We're going to try to double down and continue to build out that platform because the technology requirements in that space really align well with what GF does, whether it's RF for radar, whether it's low power for electrification of cars, precision battery management or microcontrollers for intelligent and secure functionality. That's the place we play in.
Harlan Sur
analystSo help us understand, though, because when the announcement about the signing of the GM long-term agreement. We got a lot of questions from investors, what is GM doing securing capacity? Are they designing their own semiconductor? They're already -- GF is already engaged with the top automotive semiconductor suppliers in the world. So help investors sort of understand the dynamics around why is it that your signing and inking these deals with the auto OEMs directly, but yet you also have pretty strong partnerships with all the semiconductor suppliers.
Thomas Caulfield
executiveYes. First, it's a great question and what you understand what's it foot there. It makes sense for why, it might have been a first-of-a-kind deal but certainly not a last-of-a-kind deal. So what is it on a company first need to do? It's a little like electronics snuck up on them. They started putting more and more electronics in cars. So they wake up 1 day and find out, my God, we have 80 different SKUs of a microcontroller when we need maybe 4 different types. And so the first thing all the automotive companies are doing right now, and this is the end of the realization through 2021 is, hey, how do we harmonize and rearchitect the electronics of the car so we can be more balanced and have a more efficient use of semiconductors. And then once you have that, you say, okay, how do I go out create the supply that I need on the technology nodes that have the durability and legs and get it at the best economics. And the GM deal does all 3 of that. It's our 40-nanometer embedded memory for microcontroller technology. It's a winning platform. It will be here for a long time. They wanted capacity in the U.S. They could have asked for it in Germany or Singapore, they wanted in the U.S., and they wanted the best economics. So to create that capacity in the U.S., we'd have to make an investment. To make that investment, we need a return on that investment. So that will be an extra cost on their wafers. Let's take an imaginary number. Just say that cost to get a return is $1,000 in every wafer. If we took that $1,000 and passed it over to a fabless company who does the design, they don't just pass through cost, they margin it up. They'll pass it on to a tier 1 who creates some functional anti-lock brake, airbag or some function and they'll mark it up. And so something that should cost GM $1,000 for that investment on top of the manufacturing service to create the wafer is now $2,500. So how do you get the best economics? You work a 3-way deal. You work with the fabless company with that product is going to cost. You work a deal with GF on how much we want to every wafer you ship to return on investment. So you pay us directly for that investment, you pay the fabless company the value they've created in design and GF charges the fabless company for the wafer without that investment. Best economics, capacity where they want it on the technology they want. The reason why it's not the last-of-a-kind is because it makes economic sense. I think you'll see more of those come along in different variations. By the way, GM could have easily said, you know what, I'll use my own capital. I'll make the investment, then no one has to mark up anything. They chose a better use of their capital was to build their automobiles and their capital investments and chose to use GF's. But you can imagine a world where other companies would say, no, I have a big balance sheet, I might as well use my balance sheet to help my gross margins.
Harlan Sur
analystPerfect. On the last earnings call, you called out strength in your aerospace and defense business through this weak period in our industry. And it's the first time I've heard the team mentioned aerospace and defense as a part of your mix. But I do know that GlobalFoundries has what we call ITAR and trusted fab certification by the U.S. Department of Defense. What types of programs are you engaged in? And did the NDAA that was signed that we just talked about in December, did that motivate more of your aerospace and defense customers to redirect programs to GlobalFoundries?
Thomas Caulfield
executiveYes. So ITAR trusted foundry, this enables GF to make the most sensitive components for U.S. military applications. The NDAA kind of created awareness. There wasn't really a policy that talked about where parts can be sourced other than when they were super sensitive, and it required trusted foundry. So a lot of the defense industrial base who serves the Department of Defense and the military took note. We need to get a better understanding of what are the uses of semiconductors in our systems. Many of them give a specification and have a box made to them as kind of a black box that delivers a certain function. I do think it was a surprise to find how much content was not U.S.-based or even Western based. And so it's creating a sense of awareness. I think it was no different than the auto companies in 2021 when semiconductors as an afterthought until they left about $100 billion of auto sales on the sidelines because they didn't have enough semiconductors to create awareness, they started to think about the industry differently. I think we're in the early innings of the aerospace and defense to think about, hey, where are we getting our chips from. There's real risk to them. There's reputational damage if something goes wrong in that supply chain, there's risk that the U.S. government will want more proof points on what they're sourcing. And it creates opportunity for us to work in partnership with these -- with our existing customers and maybe new ones in the defense industrial base to create opportunities for them to leverage our technologies.
Harlan Sur
analystWell, talk a little bit about differentiated technology because the metrics that you guys throw out, 90% of your design wins are sole sourced to GlobalFoundries, 2/3 plus of your revenue, so it will gradually approach that number. 2/3 of your current book of business is sole sourced to GlobalFoundries. And we cover 20 semiconductor companies. And one of the biggest trends in the market, especially high-performance networking, is all of the big guys are moving to co-package electro optics. And more often than not, when we ask them, who is your manufacturing partner, they'll say, GlobalFoundries. And to that point, I mean, you were one of the first to market in terms of developing a manufacturable and the key term here is manufacturable silicon photonics solution for next-generation data center connectivity. I think you guys said that you have 16 customer tape-outs on your new 45-nanometer CLO silicon photonics capability. So I guess the question there is, how much revenue is the team driving today? Have you seen any customer pull-ins on some of the technology roadmaps? Because of all of a sudden, there's this big focus on accelerated compute, artificial intelligence. And this is really driving some of your customers to really step it up in terms of higher data rates. Silicon photonics is going to help them achieve that.
Thomas Caulfield
executiveYes. I think the catch phrase, it's certainly like around [ iGPT or ChatiGPT ]. These are the technologies that are kind of overhyped in the near term and underhyped in the long term. Silicon photonics is an important play for us. It's -- we're the first to monolithically integrate CMOS, RF SOI and photonics on a single chip. So it creates great functionality at the best cost of ownership and integration. But it's a technology that takes a while to deploy because of how special it is. And we see these design wins and these tape-outs are really important. They're really more teaching our customers how to best leverage it. This is a story that's in early innings for us. It's -- I think it really ramps in the 2026 time frame. But it could be a market that grows to over $1 billion, and there's no reason we shouldn't have 50% share in that. It's a very good margin business for us because it's so special. And differentiating creates value. But this is going to be something that's going to take time to get that deployed into the industry and with our customers.
Harlan Sur
analystWell, we're just about out of time, but I did want you to maybe hit on several of the key factors influencing the growth opportunities ahead for GlobalFoundries, particularly in the face of some of the near-term headwinds that we're seeing across the industry? And then against this backdrop, are there any other remarks that you'd like to maybe leave us with today?
Thomas Caulfield
executiveYes. I think kind of the new news is, given the investment profile we made and how it can grow our company from where we are today, we're probably running ahead of schedule to our free cash flow positive for our business. We needed to invest to get to that $10 billion and now we have that investment in place, so we can be free cash flow positive. I think from an industry perspective, the way I look at semiconductors, it's always been a series of golden ages, some call the different epochs of computing, right? It started with the mainframe, PC, networking, handsets and now IoT. And each generation of technology, it wasn't replacement, it was additive. So we still sell 300 million of PCs a year on top of 1.2 million handsets. Now we're going to have 15 billion of IoT devices. Additive. The thing about IoT, it's the first time in the history of this industry that the technologies that service that next generation of compute is not leading edge, Moore's law. It's where GF plays because it's about compute at the edge. It's about taking data to the edge using it for inference in action, parsing it, compressing it and then send it to the cloud because it's impractical to turn every piece of data collected to the cloud for a decision and come back. So sensing devices at IoT now have to become intelligent devices, and we have the technology for that because we have the 3 important features that make that a winning play. The first one is like real estate. It's not location, location, location. It's about power, power and power. The second one is best RF connectivity wins. And the third one is secure intelligence, which means digital processing with embedded memory. Those are the key features that we bet in our platform, and we win in the space. Give an important application, think about a camera -- a surveillance camera you want to be able to work on the edge for you. You want it to be pasted up in a remote spot 2 to 3 years on 2 AA batteries. You're not going to get that if you don't use GF's 22FDX technology, so that it delivers the performance in power that lets the battery life. And how does it do that? Any kind of device that's not tethered spends most of its time in the idle mode. In this particular case, there's 2 microcontrollers in the design. The first one wakes up 10 milliseconds every 1,000 milliseconds to look around to see if anything is going on. If it does, it wakes up the big microcontroller and the data and action takes place. So what's really important is the minimization of power when the device is kind of in its sleep mode that fits to our technology. We've developed to be not only power-efficient when our devices are running, but super efficient when our devices are sitting in the idle state. And so we talk a lot about our automotive growth. A huge opportunity for GF is to be doing at the surface of the edge, the kind of AI and compute through the inference. Let the edge do the inference, let the data centers do the machine learning and then teach one and other. I think that's the big play for GF as we participate in this new area of AI.
Harlan Sur
analystGreat insights, Tom. Thank you for your participation today.
Thomas Caulfield
executiveAppreciate it.
Harlan Sur
analystYes. Thank you.
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