Hexagon AB (publ) ($HEXAB)

Earnings Call Transcript · April 30, 2026

OM SE Information Technology Electronic Equipment, Instruments and Components Analyst/Investor Day 266 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Tom Hull

Executives
#1

Hi. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Hexagon's Capital Markets Day. Very happy to have you all here with us today. Thank you for coming along on this sunny day just before a bank holiday for some people, so we very much appreciate that. I'm Tom Hull, Head of Investor Relations. Before we get into the main sessions, I'm just going to take you through some key points we have today very briefly. First off, the cautionary statement. This is unchanged from the ones you've seen previously on any of our reports. I'd also like to highlight there are no planned fire alarms or drills today. So if you do hear an alarm, please proceed to the nearest exit and good luck. Now to the day itself. We grouped the day into 3 main parts. In session 1, you'll hear from Anders, our CEO; and our new CFO, Enrique. We're then going to have some time for a short Q&A for around 15 minutes, so more about submitting a question in a moment. And then you'll have a break for around 15 minutes as well. Post the break, you're going to hear from our business area President, Andreas Renulf, the President of MI; and then Henning Sanford, the President of Geosystems. We're then going to have a further short Q&A for any questions you might have on those presentations, followed by another short break. Then in the final session of the day, you'll hear from Gordon Dale, our President of Autonomous Solutions, and you'll hear from Arnaud Robert, President of the Robotics division. Anders is then going to come up to wrap the day up with one short slide, and then we'll have a final Q&A on any area you would like to cover for about 20 minutes, half an hour. We will aim to close no later than 4:30 p.m. To ask a question today, you're going to have options. In the room, you can just raise your hand and we'll bring you a mic. From the webcast, we will pause every couple of questions and make sure that we cover any questions that are coming in through there. There is a chat box on the web box where you can submit your questions. We'll then read those out in the room. We're going to aim to address as many of your questions as possible today. Before I hand over to Anders, I just want to take a moment to talk about the key metrics you're going to hear about today and highlight the new profitability metric you'll have no doubt all read about EBITAC. The organic growth metric is completely unchanged. EBITAC, as I said, is a new metric. It takes our adjusted profitability metric, EBIT1, and subtracts capitalized R&D and adds back amortized R&D. This has the effect of charging all of the R&D in the year it's incurred, allowing us to focus more on R&D return on investment, and it is a metric closer to how we run the business today. Enrique is going to cover this new metric in more detail later. And you will have already noted, we published reconciliations between EBIT1 and EBITAC in the press release issued earlier today. The cash conversion metric remains operating cash flow before interest, tax and nonrecurring cash flow, but it is now divided by EBITAC as it's our main measure of profitability. And the definition of Scope 1 and 2 emissions is unchanged from the previous definitions. One other important thing when you're listening today is that all of the numbers quoted today, including historical, unless otherwise stated, exclude Octave and the D&E business, which we sold in February this year. With that, I'm going to pass you to Anders, who will start the main session of the day.

Anders Svensson

Executives
#2

Great. So very nice to be here. Good afternoon. Happy to see all of you here, both live in London, but also online. I know it's close to holiday season here for parts of the attendees. So really appreciate you traveling here to London to participate with us. My name is Anders Svensson. I'm the President and CEO of Hexagon. And this is a great day for us here today. We have the ability and opportunity to explain who we are as the new Hexagon created now since we are spinning off Octave and we have sold off some of our businesses. So it's a great opportunity to explain to us who we are and where we are headed going forward. And also, of course, our strong conviction to generate superior sustainable value creation for our investors going forward. This is what this whole day is basically about. So let me set the scene for today a bit. What we want you to bring with you and clearly understand when you leave here is, first, who we are, a focused leader within precision measurement and positioning technologies. And then secondly, that we benefit from really strong fundamentals. We are active in structurally attractive and fast-growing markets. And in those markets, we have a leadership position. And to have a leadership position gives you opportunity to invest in R&D, innovation to keep that leadership position, it also gives you the opportunity to be price setter, so you can charge a premium for your products. Thirdly, we want you to bring with you that we have a proven operating model on how we steer and govern this company going forward. And combine that with very strong business strategies that our business area presidents will review with you today. Those are actually done on divisional level, but summarized here on business area level for convenience. Otherwise, we would be here a very long time because we have 17 divisions. And this will then help us to unlock superior value going forward. The fourth thing is that we have clear and ambitious financial targets that are built on this foundation. So that's basically what we want you guys to bring with you when you leave here today. So moving forward then, to understand where we are going, we need to understand where we are first. So if you look back at Hexagon the last 12 months or so, you can see a quite big difference. We had what we call Hexagon now, we have Octave and we have the D&E or Design & Engineering business that we have sold. So we have taken decisive actions to sort of clean our portfolio -- not clean, but streamline our portfolio towards precision measurement and precision technologies. Because if you look at Octave, it's a completely different business. It's a great business. It's a software business, but it works with completely different cycles with customers. So it's long-term enterprise procurement cycles where they work within and the personas at the customer is completely different from the personas which Hexagon works with. So there's no sort of benefits of being together. And it only makes that look not focused as a group. The second one is our D&E business. And if you follow this, you know that the electrical design automation software systems are combining with the physical ones, which our business D&E is the computer-aided engineering companies. And this has happened everywhere. So we basically had 2 options, either we exit, while this is a very profitable and valuable company or we need to invest heavily to step into that direction instead buying one of those large companies, which would have been an opportunity, but not where we wanted to go. So this is why we then exited this business and are now since decision in AGM last week, where it was taken by the shareholders to actually spin Octave for real. So what remains is then Hexagon Core. And if you look on the right-hand side of the slide, you can see that we are EUR 3.7 billion and an EBITAC margin of 22%. And if you convert that back to EBIT1 margin, which you might be more used to, that would then be 26% for '25. If you look at the total amount of employees at 17,000 now instead of 25,000-plus when we had the other 2 businesses with us as well. But we are not exiting software. Sometimes you hear that, now you're exiting software now. Not at all. Software is critical for us. If you look at software and services, it's 44% of our revenue. Recurring revenues are 28%. So we are definitely not exiting software. And if you look at our development engineers, 75% of them are software engineers. So we are wanting to be a company within hardware, software and services that support each other. That's what we are targeting. We are not targeting to become a software company or a hardware company. We are targeting to become a supplier to our customers of full solutions, hardware, software and services. But let's dive a bit deeper into our business portfolio. And we consist of 3 business areas. Manufacturing Intelligence is the largest one. Andreas will tell you more later, EUR 1.6 billion in size, global leader in portable and stationary metrology, but also CAM software. With Waygate being added into the organization, hopefully, later in this year, we will then also be within nondestructive testing. Geosystems is the second biggest one, EUR 1.4 billion, leading in precision surveying and monitoring also within machine control, construction software and services, et cetera. And then we have the smallest business area, but the fastest-growing one, Autonomous Solutions, and Gordon will talk about that. EUR 0.7 billion and leads in precision positioning, of course, and operational intelligence and autonomous solutions like our road train, which is quite famous, I think. So in every one of these areas, we have a market position of 1 to 3 because within each of these, you have divisions. And those divisions are either best, second best or third best within their field. And that is giving us a strength, like I mentioned in the beginning, also being price leader, price setter of solutions and also to invest the most in innovation and R&D to make sure that we keep that position also going forward. And I want to mention also separate here, which is ventures and robotics. And those are -- in this, what we call ventures, it's like an incubator or a greenhouse, mainly internally developed innovation ideas that we then put in this greenhouse, allow them to grow and see if they can grow up to become a new division or even business area sometime maybe. And the most known one is probably AEON, the humanoid robotics, which you can see also here. But we have other strong businesses here like Aura. Francesco is here as well somewhere with his team to also displaying this product, over there, so you can have a look at that later if you want. But it's generally technologies we think can be disruptive somehow, and we give them a chance to grow in here. If I then move forward to now when we are a more focused portfolio, we also have a clear purpose and value proposition. And it's basically that we measure what matters for our customers. And our customers are in all the key strategic verticals in the world basically. So we focus on providing industrial customers solutions to understand the physical environment to convert that or digitize it into a digital reality and then to work and operate within that digital reality and also in the physical reality with physical AI. So all our products and solutions work to address 1 of the 3 main areas you can see here. It's either precision measurement and positioning or it's digital twins and 3D environments, and that's replicating then the physical world into the digital environment or it's within spatial and operational intelligence using the precision measurements and positioning together with real-time digital twins and then allow those -- and then through that allow assets to be able to operate safely also within the physical environment. And example for that is, of course, AEON is the road train. To some extent, you have the TS20 total station, et cetera. So this is the way we see our businesses. And we provide customers with the foundation to enable true autonomy in their products. And this is why we are at the core of how our customers develop going forward, and we are not at the edge and edge supplier somehow. We have edge technology, of course, but we are not at the edge, we are at the core. Then if I move forward to elaborate a bit on the different solutions we have today and how we enable autonomy. So if you look at our offerings, you can see them a little bit like this. It starts with manual solutions. Here, we have an MI Arm measurement, RA8. You have an operator who takes this arm and make precision measurements in reality. Then we move over to the automated solutions. Here, you have the Maestro coordinate measurement machine platform, which we released last year. So it's fully automatic measurement system with fused and connected sensors. Then you move into the semiautonomous solutions. And here, you have, like I mentioned, TS20 within Leica or Geosystems. You have the ATS800 within Manufacturing Intelligence. And of course, you have the anti-collision system within mining. And those use digital twins, edge AI and perception technologies to be semi-autonomous. And then, of course, you have the further step is then how do we enable true autonomy. And this is physical AI with real-time spatial and operational intelligence. And the key point here is that we have products, technologies and solutions that support our customers on the journey from being manual to being truly autonomous. And we didn't put in here, but also within adding Waygate into MI, we will not only have like we have here, surface measurement -- precision measurement equipment, we will even be able then to measure the inside geometry of different products and components. So before turning into our strategy and markets, I want to talk about how we operate. We call it the Hexagon way, and it's a critical enabler to deliver on our targets. And this was introduced basically quite early after I joined in the end of the third quarter, and we started to implement already in some businesses in the fourth quarter, but it's fully implemented from the 1st of January this year. So the Hexagon way starts with purpose as the core. And then around that, you have an operating model, you have people and culture, you have the governance system and you have how we treat our brand. So if I focus then on the operating model, which is how we do business basically, and this is how we operate with 17 fully accountable decentralized divisions that are customer-facing. They have their own sales force. Each of them run their own strategy, they run their own resources, they run their own decision-making completely. They are basically empowered to take decisions as if this was a self-standing entity. But they are also accountable for the outcome of those decisions and their financial performance. So the business areas then is the next layer and business areas are more there to govern and to help steer the divisions and help with M&As. And if they get off track, they will support the division to get back on track. And we combine this decentralized organization with a strong, transparent performance management system. And this is fundamental for a decentralized organization to be successful. If you don't have a strong performance management system with a clear governance, you get chaos when you decentralize. So this has to go hand in hand. And it's something that we implemented and that is working very well. And we have a lot of people actually in our organization that has worked with the similar systems before. So it has been fairly simple to implement, I must say. If I then jump into just mentioning a bit about our recent financial performance, and I will summarize then from the last Capital Markets Day primarily. We can see that we basically have the same top line. It's been around EUR 3.7 billion for the past 3 years. We had minus 2.4% growth in '24, and we have plus 2.6% growth in '25. So it's been fairly standstill from that point of view. Of course, we have had macro environment against us. And we have, due to COVID also had a fairly slow product generation cycle of new products if you compare to how we used to operate. So this has also delayed some of the launches and of course, then didn't help us with our top line development. If you look at what we did deliver since the last Capital Markets Day is basically a growth in recurring revenues of 4 percentage points and also software and services. So actually, the quality of revenues went up. But where we have seen most of the challenges we have had has been within our profitability. We have managed to keep the gross margin at a good level. It's basically 62% straight over the period. But we have not been able to control the cost as we should have done due to that we didn't have any top line development. So we have invested in SG&A costs, et cetera, which we should not have done. And you can clearly see that in the development of the adjusted EBITAC margin, which has gone down -- it's gone down from the top year, which was in '21 at 26%. And this was basically the recovery year after COVID. So we had 16% organic growth. Nobody traveled and we had less people than we normally have. So this was a peak year, right, from a profitability point of view. But then it's gone down to 22% EBITAC. And you can see the gap between amortization and capitalization has been between 3 percentage points up to 5% and then back to 4% now. So in average, it's something like 4 percentage points difference between EBIT1 and EBITAC. But you can see the trend is the same within EBIT1 that is also going down. So clearly, this is something that we understood that we needed to act on. I don't know what's happened here. Stop me. And without this clear operating model and performance management system, it's very difficult to quickly notice where you go off track. We have scorecards, which we follow on a monthly basis where we can see each business and how they are performing and when they go off track. And if you don't have that, you react too late, and that is exactly what happened with us, a bit in history. We reacted too late to the cost development versus the flat top line. But this is something that we now have embedded in a new discipline in how we run and govern our company going forward. So given this kind of weaker development than we historically have had within Hexagon, we are then taking immediate actions to get back on track, and this is something we already did since mid-'25. So we launched this new decentralized operating model with a strong performance management system. I talked about that already. Secondly, we launched a restructuring program. And if you remember, that was EUR 110 million, including Octave, EUR 36 million, Octave and EUR 74 million for Hexagon. And that we are still executing on. We have a good run rate of about EUR 50 million after the end of the first quarter. So we are well on track to deliver on this. We also reviewed our R&D spend and especially what we had on the balance sheet. And we unfortunately had to impair EUR 186 million at that point in time. And this was not because we wanted to improve something or that we wanted to change something in history. This is because we had developed things that was on the balance sheet that no longer fit with customer demands and would not be possible to sell. And if you keep that on the balance sheet, then people will continue to invest in that, and that's throwing good money at bad money. So you need to take a decision where you're in that situation. And now with the new set that we have, we will not get back into that situation because we are reviewing this on a quarterly basis going through all these initiatives with our businesses. What you can see is that given that we have installed this, of course, we have a positive development of organic growth. Now we have also done a lot of good things in the past that also have a positive impact. So we have turned the table when it comes to the organic growth development. And you can also see it on the EBITAC margin that it dropped down and the low point was basically middle of last year. And since then, we have seen an uptick in our performance. And that gives us confidence in the targets that we're also communicating to the market today. So if we look ahead, our ambition is simple: to create superior value and to do this sustainably over time. And we have a strong conviction that we can deliver on this ambition. We have, like I mentioned before, compelling fundamentals, leading position in very attractive markets. We have a proven approach to value creation with our account-driven operating model, with our Hexagon sort of DNA, very strong innovation focus and also a clear portfolio strategy together with a business strategy in all of our businesses. And portfolio strategy, I mean, buying, selling companies to clean our portfolio to make it right for us. And last but not least, we have a strong and experienced leadership team. And actually, at breakfast, someone said that there is actually no one speaking today that spoke at the CMD of 2023. And I haven't thought about that until this morning, but that's actually true. So there has been a lot of changes and people have gone to Octave and people have gone to the Hexagon side, but also a lot of new people coming in. So that's a quite interesting observation. But let me take you through this a bit in more detail. So if we move into a megatrend, so we help our customers solve problems. And we have 3 megatrends that are structural, global and durable. And while they represent challenges for our customers, this is, of course, representing also opportunities for us as a company. Labor shortage is one, which is critical going forward. And 2030, it's expected to have a labor shortage of 85 million people. That's roughly the population of Germany globally. And of course, if you go to skilled labor, that is even worse situation. So our customers can't solve this by hiring more people because there is no competence to hire. So we need to go through that automation journey and automate things. And to do that, you need precision measurement. Otherwise, you can't do that. And the second one is the sustainability pressure. The cost of failure in construction and industrial processes are huge, right? And only if you look at -- in construction, they spend more on correcting errors and rework and throwing away concrete, which was done by mistake, et cetera, then 7x the profit in the whole industry is going to rework and waste basically. That's massive. And the opportunity is here to minimize waste, to minimize rework and to increase safety and efficiency in construction is massive. And we have the equipment to support customers in that journey. And then, of course, there's a third megatrend, and this defines where our industry is heading, and that's AI. And AI needs precision data. And to be able to deliver spatial and operational intelligence, the need for really specific high-precision data is massive going forward. So this is a massive opportunity for us. And if you take the step, which I talked about before, going from manual to fully autonomous, it requires an accurate increase of 3,000x to be able to do that. And every time in history, when we have gone through more automation, the data requirements have increased, and it's the same in this journey. So the requirements of precision data is increasing, and that's exactly what we help our customers doing. And this is also why we see ourselves not threatened by AI, but rather as a demand driver for us going forward. So those megatrends drive growth within our serviceable addressable market, let's call it SAM. And you can see it's increasing from EUR 27 billion to EUR 38 billion in 2030, and that's an increase of EUR 11 billion in just 5 years. It's a broad-based growth. And you can see the slowest growing segment we deem is MI with 4% to 6% growth; Geosystems, 5% to 7% and then Autonomous Solutions with 8% to 10%. And we are, like I said previously, positioned as 1 to 2 within those industries. So we have a very good opportunity to take advantage of that underlying market growth. Of course, you cannot directly translate, let's say, this number into how much we should grow because we might be stronger in geomatics, which is a more mature business and not growing as quick. We might be stronger in Western markets like North America and Europe that might not be growing as quick as development markets. But it's a good indication about how the whole SAM is growing for us. And we consider this to be very good fundamentals going forward, and we are very confident with that we can utilize that. And also, if you look at how diversified we are within the industries, we are basically in all the critical verticals in all areas. If you look at sales per geography, we're also very well diverse across the globe. And this gives us, of course, strength and resilience if there is problem in any region or any industries. So how do we execute on these great market opportunities and take advantage of our strong market position. From a Hexagon Group perspective, we have 4 main cross Hexagon enablers that are working together in helping to unlock profitable growth. So these are the 4 which are cross Hexagon Group. It's the operating model with accountability, strong innovation and AI focus. It's the portfolio management and also including our DNA of very strong M&A generation, over 200 M&As in the last sort of 25 years. And many of them have built Hexagon as it is today, right? Brown & Sharpe, Leica Geosystems, NovAtel, there's massive of M&As where we have really leveraged those companies and made them to something they were not even close to be before. So this DNA we carry with us. And then, of course, people and culture. We can't do anything about this if we don't have the right people with competence and capabilities and motivation. So this enables us to go across all the businesses. And I will now try to cover these in the next couple of slides, but these are nothing if you don't combine it with these. And this is the core of the presentation when it comes to the business areas presentations. It's the business strategies. So I start with then the first enabler, which was the operating model. And as I mentioned before, we have structured this in 17 decentralized fully accountable customer-facing divisions. And divisions control all the costs, all their resources, all the decision-making, and they are then accountable for the financial performance, both when it comes to the operational balance sheet and the profit and loss. They are reporting to the 3 business areas, which role was, as I said, mainly to govern and steer those divisions and make sure that we are on track with strategy execution. So we do this through a very transparent performance management system. And a key part of that is the scorecards. And the scorecard is the last 3 years performance monthly for a range of financial KPIs, but also nonfinancial KPIs to ensure that we quickly can spot trends of deviation against our plans. And given the speed of the markets that we are in and the innovation where we are, this is critical. So being a company that takes decisions with speed is a competitive advantage. And our operating model is enabling us to do just that because it doesn't need to go up to me to take decisions. It's done very much closer to customers and course correction is done also very much closer to customers. I will then move into the next enabler, and that was the innovation. So our story about innovation is a bit like a recovery and acceleration story. So we used to be very strong at innovation in terms of speed and new generation of products. When COVID came, it actually slowed down quite a bit for us. We didn't get the same innovation cycles as we had previously. So product launches were delayed and we got slower. We then invested more in R&D, and you can see that. This is the total investment. You can see that we invested more, but we didn't get the benefit of the revenue because we didn't get the products out to customers. So that changed now in 2025. We -- actually from the end maybe of 2024, we started to get new products out to the market. 2025 was a fantastic year of product releases. 2026 is a similar one. So lots of new products coming out to the market, and we will see the benefit of those investments, of course, going forward. That will be a good tailwind for us when it comes to growth going forward. But I think this tells a good story or maybe not a good story that we used in 2021, 10% of our revenue was actually from products being released in the last 3 years. If you look where it was '25, it was 6%. So you can really see that, that sort of boost of releasing new products and getting that boost on your organic growth has not been there in the last 3 years. And we now see and believe that, that is coming back. And this is not -- this is also important to know just because we released a new total station in Geosystems in October last year. It doesn't mean that from November, we get the full revenue from that one. It takes time to ramp these up. We ramp them up in different geographies, and then we make sure that we have an update of the systems. There are software updates to make sure that the product is as efficient as possible, et cetera. So it's a process which takes normally 18 to 24 months before it's fully ramped up. So that's how it works. I just -- I don't want to dwell on this slide, and I'm probably already very late. So I just want to mention some of the key releases that we have had in the last sort of 18 months. Started with iCON Trades within Geosystems. Then we have Aura product, which I spoke about already before, MAESTRO, the new CMM platform, ATS800, the new laser tracker and then the robotic total station within Geosystems. So great new products. Several of these, we have not seen platform updates in over a decade within like the CMM and the total station. So these are huge development projects that we have released. And there will be new products coming on those platforms also going forward. I will jump into the second part of that enabler, which was artificial intelligence. And I already mentioned that we see AI as a megatrend that works in our favor going forward. But we also deploy AI across 4 dimensions in our products and solutions. Spatial intelligence, improving how our customers interact and get insights and actually manipulate 3D models. Physical AI, this we already talked about. One example is the TS20 robotic total station. Other example is our AEON robots. And then we have data enhancement and it's leveraging AI to derive more insights from the precision measurements that we provide and sensor data. Then we have Agentic AI, and that's building customer workflows on top of our data and software solutions. So these are when it comes to the products, but we also work, of course, with driving speed and operational excellence within our own operations. It could be software development, it could be hardware development. It's, of course, in how we work within legal, with Thomas, we could cut down resources and at least cost and money on external resources to be much more efficient using these kind of solutions. And Madlen is doing the same within marketing. And we do this in all of the different support functions basically to be more efficient. And we work, of course, with the best partners that we know, and you see those on the bottom of the slide there, AWS, Microsoft, NVIDIA and Anthropic. So -- and we believe that building solutions together with these, both when it comes to how we operate internally, but also in our products and solutions is the way to go. And we have very close relationships and partnerships with several of these. Then I move into our portfolio management. And this is how we manage our existing businesses. So every division within Hexagon, and we have 17, as I said, will get a mandate, a strategic mandate. And that mandate is either stability, profitability or growth. So if you get the mandate of growth, it means that you have a stable business you have peer-leading profitability within your industry. So your focus should be create organic growth as much as you can and then add on bolt-on acquisitions or M&As to grow even quicker. And you can see 11 out of our 17 divisions are in growth mandates, which means that, that's 75% of Hexagon's revenue that already is with a growth mandate. But we have the businesses which are with a profitability mandate. And that means you have a good business, you are not running it at peer-leading profitability. So your job is to do that, fix that first. Before you focus on investing in growth or investing in M&As, you should fix your business and have peer-leading profitability. And then we have some businesses which are in stability phase. And that means we have a business that, for some reason, is not performing. It could be that it doesn't fit within our structure or organization. So we need to evaluate strategic mandates, but strategic long-term position for that business. It could be that it requires a turnaround of that business. It could be that, that business needs to exit part of what it's doing and then go into profitability and then go into growth. So this is how we drive our businesses. And the management teams of those divisions are having the exact same target and focus in their incentives. So if you are here, you don't have a growth incentive. But if you're here, you have a large percentage of your incentives on growth. So this is how we want to drive our businesses going forward. Then, of course, focused M&A to accelerate value creation. And as I mentioned, we will focus more than we have done before on our core, which is precision measurement and positioning technologies. And we are looking for acquisitions either to strengthen our current position, market position, it could be geography or some technology, et cetera, or enter into some attractive adjacency to those businesses. And that's the case when it comes to Waygate that Andreas will talk about more later. That's an attractive adjacency. But the main focus will be on those bolt-on acquisitions. So our financial criterias are very straightforward when we look at these type of investments. It can be -- a bit of a headset issue here. It's okay, I think. The market needs to be attractive, and we need to be the best owner for the business. And then that business needs to be able to generate sustainable double-digit earnings growth going forward. So those are the 3 main criterias we look at. And we remain very disciplined when it comes to valuations and when it comes to return on capital. And as I mentioned previously, we also dynamically manage our own portfolio. And we look at the different businesses, and we decide if we should exit or not. D&E is one of those examples. It's a very good business, but we were not the right owner. So then we have decided to exit that business. So those 3. Market needs to be attractive. We need to be the right owner, double-digit earnings growth sustainably. Those we look at. Then the people and culture enabler, and this is the last one of the enablers. So everything I described will not work. The operating model, the innovation, the M&A will not work if we don't have the people who feel accountable, who have the competence and capabilities to be able to do the job and who are motivated to do the job. Those are key. So we build our culture on the foundational principles of our Hexagon way, and those are accountability, transparency in everything we do and speed in actions. And this is how we make decisions, how we manage performance and how we incentivize leadership. On talent, we are investing in succession management. We really want to recruit primarily internally. We have created a new internal job market, which we did not have before. All jobs need to go through the job market, and we always want to see internal candidates, but we also want to see them being challenged by candidates from outside to make sure that we have the best capabilities for each of the roles that we are putting in place. And as I mentioned previously, our leadership incentives are based on what the assignment is for the business, but it's always regarding organic growth, EBITAC, cash conversion and ESG in -- but different weight depending on what's your strategic mandate. So if you remember the slide, I had the 4 enablers and then I had the business strategies. So this is a summary of the business strategies. I will not go through it. We will be touching on that quite a lot going forward with our team here. So what I want to mention here is ventures, which is our incubator. And like I mentioned, it's organically developed innovations primarily, and we play to win within these as well. These are included in our financial targets and in how we report. AEON is the exception to this. That's our humanoid robotics. So AEON started as a venture but has grown into a great possibility to be the humanoid robotics that is one of the winners going forward. So here, we cannot sort of contain AEON with our financial metrics and our financial targets that we use for our normal businesses. Here, we need to be more forward leaning and don't expect a short return because the ticket to play is there, but the return is quite far away. So it's a different cycle. This is the reason why we have excluded AEON from the financial targets that we are reporting. We will, of course, be extremely transparent on reporting externally how much we're investing, what's the result, et cetera, et cetera, but not included in the group targets. This is just a summary slide. I won't put too much time on this one, but it's to explain how we work. So we work within our SAM and then we have a total addressable market, which is including adjacencies. In SAM, we work with organic developments in our divisions primarily, and we work with bolt-on acquisitions. Then on the business area level and on the group level, we work with our organic development into humanoid robotics, Aura, et cetera, which are organic, but it's outside our SAM today. And then we have the acquisitions, which is outside our SAM as well, building on our SAM into our TAM. So that's how we work on the different levels with growth going forward. Then I will move into my last slide, which represents the confidence, I think, in value creation that we have. So we have communicated organic growth targets of 4% to 6%, '26 to '30. The achievement you know in '25 was 2.6% and the year before was minus 2.4%. So we believe that this is a good first level to move to in terms of creating stability and getting back into a growth mode within the company. EBITAC margin last year was 22%, and we communicated 24% to 26%. And this is not to be confused, of course, with EBIT1 margins because as we discussed previously, in average, 4 percentage points difference. So this would be 28% to 30% then if you want to -- related to EBIT1 targets. And we will, of course, continue to report on a quarterly basis EBIT1 as well. But this is how we steer and govern our business going forward. I don't want anyone to capitalize R&D to get a better EBIT1 result because I take that lever away. Now we have the full R&D cost in the result. So we're not doing the wrong things to try to get some short-term incentives or so. I'm not saying we have done that in history, but of course, that could be attempting for smart people. Cash conversion of EBITAC, we are targeting 90% to 100%. And last year, we did 109%. I think it represents a strong cash generation, but also that we keep on investing in our businesses. When it comes to ESG targets, we have a Scope 1 and 2 reduction of 70% by 2030 and then a net zero in the whole value chain by 2050. And if you know us since before, you know this is considerably lower target than we previously had, but this is basically only taking out Octave and design and engineering that basically don't have anything because they are software businesses. So this is just basically to taking that out. So we're not trying to have easier targets on ESG going forward. And there are many targets on ESG, of course. But good to see that we have progress of 33% since the base year of 2022. So as I said previously, these targets are then excluding the Robotics divisions, but including everything else. So Enrique, then I think I'm done for now, and I will come back to do the Q&A together with you, but I'll leave over for you to go through in a bit more detail.

Enrique Patrickson

Executives
#3

Thank you so much, Anders. Thank you, Anders. Good afternoon, everyone. Great to see you all. So I'm Enrique, very proud to be here representing Hexagon and also grateful for the opportunity and humble as well for the opportunity. And I think many of you will say, well, isn't it a bit premature to do a Capital Markets Day on working day 5, but -- and that's a valid question, but I think the reality is that I'm actually working on this and working with the management team for quite some time now. And I'm also very glad for the on-boarding that so many have provided. So I will actually be focusing now this -- during my session here, focusing on providing you a bit more of the financial substance behind the targets that Anders just outlined. And I've divided this into 4 key questions. And these 4 key questions are actually the very same that I've been using when discussing actually the strategy of the business with Anders and other leadership team members. So those are where does the growth come from? How do we sustain our margins going forward? How do you convert that into cash? And how do we remain disciplined on capital allocation. So let's work through each of those targets. The -- or each of these questions. The conviction that we are expressing today is rooted in a straightforward logic. Yes, we have strong assets, market leadership, an innovation engine and deep domain expertise that has been built over decades. We're adding value by focusing the portfolio on precision measurement, positioning, making customers front and center to the decision-making by empowering the divisional leadership and also applying a very disciplined performance management approach here. And the output that we get out of this is sustainable and superior value creation, consistent revenue growth, industry-leading profitability and capital allocation focused on value realization and creation. Then I want to draw your attention to these boxes here to the left because when we now kick off actually with the finance leadership team, the finance leaders that are the closest to the business, actually the ones that really uncover where are we leaving money on the table, really, I mean, that's the operating model, transparency -- accountability transparency as a team. And that means having a deep understanding of unit economics of the business, the R&D ROI, how do we convert to cash and so on and driving that flywheel faster. And that's the plan. So everything I say now in the coming 20 minutes or so is really the evidence behind that. So let's look at the path to enhance profitability through the lens of where we have been. Looking at our 2019 to 2024 historic average, organic growth averaged at about 3.8% EBITAC margin 24% and cash conversion of 98%. What we achieved in '25 was 2.6% in growth. That's below the historical rate, but with a clear recovery, as you saw from Anders in the second half of the year. And if you recall from that chart, 2024 was actually negative growth. EBITAC margin, 22% and cash conversion of 109%, and that was helped a lot from working capital. Our 2026 to '30 targets takes each of these in the right direction from where we have been. So getting to 4% to 6% growth and expanding the margins to 24% to 26% and cash conversion of 90% to 100%. And on emissions, as you saw from Anders, we have had a reduction of 33% versus our base year of 2022, and we're then targeting 70% by 2030The good thing here is that we are very much on track. Everything we do financially, if you look at this circle here is organized around 4 interconnected priorities, protecting the industry-leading margins, generating then strong cash and then allocating that cash into growth avenues that protect those margins and so on. And if you plug in the midpoint of where we're kind of guiding to, you're going to see that, that adds up to about EUR 5 billion. And we commit here now to deploy that in a very disciplined way with a lot of rigor behind that. And also with a clear value creation framework. And that's from how we -- it's not only kind of when you look at the total value creation or total capital allocation framework, but also within how do we deploy R&D dollars, how do we deploy M&A spend, marketing spend and so on. And creating transparency on leading indicators showing that we are on the right path is one ingredient behind that. Another one is actually the incentive structures that we create as leadership behind the financial objectives as well as the emission objectives. And one key aspect here is measuring performance and what else can you expect from an advanced measurement company. So measuring and managing performance, and we get a bit technical now, but I want to also be very clear here in terms of how we are looking at the business and also so that you -- the way that you are looking at it is in the same way as that we are looking at it internally. EBITAC is EBIT1, adding back the R&D capitalization and subtracting the R&D amortization. So it is adjusted EBIT with the full expensing of all of the R&D costs in the period. I hope that was clear. And the reason for moving to this metric is straightforward. So historically, Hexagon has capitalized a significant portion of the R&D spend because it typically spends more than peers on industry-leading and disruptive innovation. In 2025, that amount was EUR 340 million. You see it on that table. We'll come back to that one in a moment. But that capitalization and that subsequent amortization, that creates a timing gap and EBITAC removes that distortion. It expenses all R&D in the same period it is incurred. And the result then is a much more conservative measure of profitability, typically 4 percentage points, as you saw from Anders versus the EBIT1 margin. So in 2025, our EBIT1 margin was 26%, while EBITAC was 22%. And there are 2 simple reasons for why we do this. One is that we will drive much more rigor behind our R&D spend. The other one is that EBITAC is much closer to cash, and that links -- and that's a key driver as well behind accountability. I hope this profitability bridge that we put up on all the way to your right is clear. But by taking the 2025 numbers here as a case study, it starts with our reported EBIT of EUR 575 million, we add in the in-year adjustment of EUR 372 we'll end on an EBIT1 of EUR 947 million. We then subtract and add back the R&D capitalization and amortization, and that takes us to an EBITAC of EUR 802 million. However, that includes the spend that we had in Robotics. And removing that charge takes us to EUR 826 million. And that's an important note because that's the EBITAC that we are guiding for today in our objectives. So we will be excluding the robotics numbers in our EBITAC guidance. And I'll come back shortly for why that is the case. EBIT1 will still be reported while EBITAC will be our focus. And here on this chart, you can actually then see the EBITAC and EBIT1 on a look-back basis back to 2020 and also highlighting the point that Anders made that 2021, we had a fantastic growth of about 16% organic growth, and we achieved top EBITAC margins of 26%. But that was also an exceptional period with that growth and also a period with temporarily lower cost base. So that point is actually a demanding point, and it's intentionally so, but it also reflects the conviction that we are having in the strategies that we are presenting today. On Robotics, you heard from Anders presenting on Robotics today, you'll hear much more from Arnaud, and I hope that you took a look at the product out there. We're very excited about the opportunity, and there is a real opportunity to build a market leader here in robotics. The pilots that we have underway are actually moving very nicely forward. But it's also a venture that is kind of at the start of an S-curve and decisions here in terms of capital allocation need also to be framed in terms of long-term value creation as opposed to more kind of short-term margin contribution when we look at our normal business. And so that's the main reason for why we're excluding it from group targets. Including it would distort as well how the picture in terms of how we're looking at our core business performance. Here also, the incentive mechanisms are also different. Investments in Robotic will double roughly in 2026 versus 2025, so going from EUR 24 million to about EUR 50 million, and we will be transparent about this in our quarterly reports. We will also evaluate partner arrangements if we see that, that's a better way to realize this opportunity. Now I'm as well as Anders, a very strong believer in decentralization. If you do it right, you really drive empowerment, agility and speed. And as a CFO, I need 2 operating mechanisms to really drive this. One is strong performance management and the other one is strong internal controls. And this, in fact, actually derisks the outcomes. And that's very important when we think about this. So scorecard is one way of driving this. We ensure that divisional management has more pixels, more granularity when looking at the results, lays out actually capital allocation decisions in a much better way. Unit economics become much more clearly understood, and we shorten the reaction time. Divisions are accountable for their assets, execution as well as the results. So accountability, transparency and speed here as keywords that help us to shape a culture into real operational outcomes. When a division is underperforming, we know quickly and we act quickly. This serves also as a base for the mandates that Anders was talking about with the chart with all the bubbles. So in summary, it's about derisking the outcomes. And that is as well why we then have the conviction that we have behind our targets. Our businesses, they have clear specific plans to accelerate organic growth profitably. And you will hear more from each of the divisional presidents -- business area presidents talking about that. But before that, I want to address these 4 questions and come back to that because I think these are actually the right questions to ask from a business that has been kind of struggling a bit on growth and has had margin pressure for quite some time and now setting clearly more ambitious targets. Where does growth come from? Is 4% to 6% just a restatement of the historical trend that we've had? Or is it a too easy target? How do margins expand sustainably? Why should investors believe in our 24%, 26% margin? Or is that really do we need actually peak performance to achieve that? Looking at the cash conversion, removing Octave and D&E, how does that change the cash profile of the business? And lastly, how will we keep discipline in our capital allocation, particularly as well when we restart the M&A program, we double investments in Robotics and so on. So let's get into it. Our group target here is of 4% to 6% organically, and that is underpinned by differentiated contributions from each business area. Manufacturing Intelligence ending at 4% to 6%; Geosystems, 3% to 5%; and Autonomous Solutions, 10% to 12%. And that's obviously reflecting the faster growth trajectory of the markets that Gordon has and the early stage of some of those revenue streams. If you look at this chart here, that chart shows essentially from 2019 to 2025, we've been growing at about 4% per year. And that's a period where we had quite some turbulence. We had also a pandemic period as well here. We see now 2026 to 2030 as an acceleration. And that's achievable because of the initiatives that we are seeing in these business areas around product launches, the operating model and the market tailwinds that Anders described. So what are some of those drivers that we have behind this? So we have them actually in some different forms. Actually, it's products, it's innovations, it's geographies, it's go-to-market, customer-focused experiences and so on. In Manufacturing Intelligence, MAESTRO, the first new CMM platform in a decade, the ATS 800, I hope that you saw it out there, will drive hardware revenues. While China's role is an underexploited commercial opportunity that we have there to manufacture for more markets than outside of China. Waygate here also is also a very interesting opportunity for the nondestructive testing market. In Geosystems, the TS20, the AI-powered total station as well as ICON Trades are also very interesting products that allow us to achieve growth. The midrange expansion and go-to-market optimization will also expand the reach into new segments where we have also been under-indexing in the past. In Autonomous Solutions, the Mosaic G5, that's the smallest GNSS receiver to date. You have it out there as well as the Gadget products also show continued technical leadership. And the growth strategy here is really to continue to penetrate new and existing markets as well as to scale up that operational intelligence autonomy solutions where the market growth rates are the highest. The second question was around our growth and how do we get from 22% to that range of 24% to 26%. The answer is straightforward and based on, I would say, realistic assumptions. Organic growth is the primary lever. When revenues grow over our fixed cost base, obviously, then we -- that creates an operational leverage for us. The gross margins, as you saw, have been consistently around the 62% level. and that provides a strong platform. Manufacturing Intelligence is aiming at 21% to 24%; Geosystems, 25% to 27%; and Autonomous Solutions, 27% to 30%. And together, they blend into the 24% to 26% target. On top of that, we have 2 specific cost tailwinds. One is the restructuring program that we announced in the EUR 74 million run rate that we are looking to achieve now for -- at the end of '26. And the other one is the more normalization of our R&D spend that has been a bit elevated coming out of the pandemic investment cycle. Our gross margins here have been actually extremely resilient, consistently around 62% since 2022. And these are market-leading gross margins that we are showing here. New products is really the key here. New products launches allow us to come in at high gross margins versus the products that they replace. And as the new launches that we have now in market, as those build in here, that revenue contribution as well help us to protect and create a tailwind for that gross margin trajectory. And that's consistent across all 3 business areas. And here, the other element here is obviously pricing. And here, I've been positively impressed with the speed and agility at Hexagon. Nevertheless, when you have a period of turbulent times, there's always more that you can do in terms of addressing that muscle. So that's another lever that we will be looking at much more. On operating costs, and I want to give you a bit of a framework in terms of how we're thinking about that. First, if we start with the R&D spend, that should be in the range of 12% to 15% of sales. And as I mentioned before, we have been on the kind of high end. And as the post-pandemic period kind of like completes, we will be kind of coming down a bit as a percent of sales. The direction is that's clear then. So it will be 15% and gradually come down somewhat, but we see it as well as very important to protect because that is really key to fueling our growth. For sales, marketing and admin, additional investments will amount to no more than 50% compared to the organic growth that we generate. And that's an important lens for how we're looking at this. So we will invest in go-to-market, but we will be very disciplined. And these are very important things because, I mean, when we now break this down into scorecards, it's important that all divisional leadership they really understand operational leverage and they follow that very closely. On the restructuring program, I think that deserves a particular attention. The original scope was EUR 110 million, but following the separation of Octave, we're now looking at EUR 74 million for the continuing Hexagon business. And that's the annualized cost reduction of EUR 74 million, and that's real money, real headcount, real estate, operational efficiency and so on. And the program started in Q4 last year and runs to Q4 of this year as that run rate is building up. And that will be a very meaningful contribution to the EBITAC growth that we're seeing for this year. And the decisions have been made, the programs are in place and are in execution mode. Another thing on looking at our profitability and margins and cost structure here that -- and that's important to understand as well as also for the quality of our earnings going forward is items affecting comparability. These have been a source of noise in our P&L in the past. In 2025, they were close to EUR 400 million, which is abnormally high. And a big part of that is the R&D impairment that Anders mentioned. Going forward, we are committing to use adjusting items in very specific narrow circumstances where there is a market shock, a pandemic or similar or large M&A or portfolio changes. We will continue with PPA and LTIP adjustments in line with standard peer practice. But the direction is clear. Adjusted items affecting comparability will decrease significantly, and that improves the quality of our earnings and also the comparability. The third question was around cash and how does that remain strong now when we're looking ahead here. Our target is 90% to 100% as a comparison to EBITAC to be very clear. In 2025, that was 109%, so very strong achievement. But historically, our average has been 98%. The key mechanism here to really ensure that we are delivering on this is ensuring that our divisional management in the ones that are accountable for this have a clear understanding of their working capital and their CapEx decisions. And that's truly embedded in our scorecard model and improving also the -- and as well when we're now using EBITAC that is much more closer linked to cash, that as well enhances that kind of perspective in terms of looking at cash becomes a much, much more of a reality from when we look at our performance. I want to flag one important point here as well, and that is investments in new facilities that will partially offset the positive trajectory that we have had, especially in '25. So we are investing in operational infrastructure in key markets. This is planned and targeted and means that the cash conversion may be at the lower end of that target range in the first couple of years, '26 and '27. And as you can imagine, cash forecasting is the most difficult of all kind of parameters that we are dealing with here. In terms of our sustainability targets, and here, we only show actually a small portion of the amazing work that we do in ESG, but focusing on the emission targets that we are setting today. We're targeting a 70% reduction in Scope 1 and 2 from our 2022 baseline all the way to 2030. And in 2025, we achieved already 33%. And by next year, we will have achieved 50%. And by 2050, we will be fully net zero. And we get to these targets by aggressively moving our energy consumption to be fully renewable and by working with our supply chain to ensure that they are compliant and also SBTi -- they also have SBTi targets as well. Critically here as well with the products that we sell, Hexagon is already avoiding 49 million tonnes of CO2 annually. Our products are part of that sustainability solution. And on that topic as well, I need to mention that I've been impressed with the Hexagon initiatives to drive planet resilience. Some of our venture investments like the ones in R-evolution using our own technologies could result in meaningful business opportunities. So sustainability is not only part of our reporting or compliance at Hexagon, it's really having a very meaningful business opportunity. Capital allocation then. And that's the fourth question and the discipline that we are putting on this. Let me start with the financial guidelines that we are putting here. First, starting with how we're looking at structural growth coming from M&A. On average, this has been about 2% and typically from bolt-ons. But periodically, we will as well consider larger acquisitions like Waygate. But the norm will be that we will be adding more bolt-ons rather than the type of Waygate and wherever we can exploit adjacencies and synergies. Return on capital employed, we are aiming for -- we should be generating 15%, and that anchors key investment decisions that we are making in the business. Net debt to EBITDA, we will stay below 2.5x. We will be at 0.8 post the Octave spin as well as the dividend that we are just about to pay out actually. Adding Waygate to that will take us about 1.4, 1.5 on a pro forma basis. So you can do the math to understand how much that we do have quite some substantial firepower still and also considering the EUR 5 billion of operating cash flow that we have in the plan. Dividend, the plan is to maintain 25% to 35% of net earnings and consistent with our existing policy. Before going into more details in terms of our capital allocation, just a couple of things around our currency and tax profile also considering the Octave separation. On revenues, the U.S. dollar is our largest currency with 38% of sales, the euro 22% and renminbi, 14%. The remaining 26% is really spread out between British pounds, Japanese yen and Aussie dollars. That's a diversified currency base, so no single currency that dominates. But looking at this in terms of EBITAC, the picture is quite similar. One thing to note here is that the Swiss franc is more of a cost currency for us, and that's a natural consequence of our Swiss heritage, but also that we have a number of our head office functions located in Switzerland. A practical consequence of this mix as well as the EU's Pillar 2 directive is that our anticipated tax rate moves up a notch from 18% in 2025 to 19% to 21% going forward. And as I mentioned earlier, we do have quite a strong balance sheet, well capitalized following the separation of Octave. We have as well sufficient lines to draw from, and we target to stay within 0.5 -- sorry, 2.5x of net debt to EBITDA. So let's talk more about the capital allocation. And let me divide this into two parts, operational investments and corporate actions. So if you think of our P&L at the EBITDA level and adding back all the R&D, then we are talking of about EUR 1.5 billion in profit. how do we intend to use that? So about half of that goes -- this half here goes into reinvesting into the business. So these are primarily investments in R&D. And with the use of EBITAC, you will see that's fully expensed. This portion includes as well robotics and ventures where we take bolder growth initiatives. And then when looking at the left-hand side, and I think one important thing to note here compared to other businesses you may compare us with is that investments in intangible, so CapEx in property, plant and equipment is just a small portion of our investments. Majority goes into R&D, similar to tech businesses. Looking at our -- on the left-hand side here, the pie, about 20% on average, of course, because this might vary by year, goes into bolt-on M&As. And of course, we will handle that in a disciplined manner in terms of how we're looking at valuation, the M&A framework that Anders lined out. And in addition, we do have substantial firepower. The remaining piece here, and I would say the most important probably here is that and this corresponds to 25% to 35% of the EPS, and that's about 30% of the total pie. The key message here is that we have a number of opportunities at hand, but we will remain very disciplined in terms of how we are thinking about this and just the fact that we do have a strong balance sheet does not mean a relaxed approach. So let me bring this together. So each business area has clear specific target. Manufacturing Intelligence, 4% to 6% organic growth with 21% to 24% margin; Geosystems, 3% to 5% top line, 25%, 27% and then Autonomous Solutions with 10% to 12% organic growth and stella EBITAC margins of 27% to 30% margin. Each of them have targeted plans, leveraging new products, clear R&D bets, entering new segments, optimizing go-to-market and so on. And each of them have as well pricing, cost and cash in control. It's embedded in the setup of the divisional structure. So this is all operating under strong governance and with a clear performance management framework. So it means also that these targets are not only aspiration, but also quite managed in the way that we are operating. So now taking this to a closing, and we have clear plans to deliver on growth. And I'm very excited to be part of these plans. One, we have a clear plan for how we deliver on growth. Product launches are in market. The operating model and the accountability is live. Market tailwinds are structural. Two, the organic growth and cost controls will sustainably expand our margins. The math is straightforward. Cash generation will remain strong. We achieved 109% last year, and we're looking to be at 90% to 100% going forward. And lastly, we are enabling value creation through strong capital allocation, the EUR 5 billion of cumulative cash flow deployed with discipline against a clear framework. So under this leadership, Hexagon is focused, accountable and growing, and we're very confident in terms of where we're headed. Thank you so much. I now hand over to you, Tom, to handle the Q&A session.

Tom Hull

Executives
#4

Great. I'll just wait for the seating to get put out, and then we'll kick off with the first question. Okay.

Magnus Kruber

Analysts
#5

Magnus here with Nordea. Just going to the ROCE target of 15%. To what degree does that reflect the historical goodwill you have on the balance sheet? And what rates do you expect to invest inorganically going forward?

Enrique Patrickson

Executives
#6

Should I take it?

Anders Svensson

Executives
#7

I didn't really get the question, so please.

Enrique Patrickson

Executives
#8

Yes. So essentially, the question is on the goodwill historically yes, sorry, the ROS -- so return on capital employed historically and the goodwill that we have on balance sheet. I would say the 15% that we're expected to say is more of the framework when we're looking at the investments that we're looking ahead of us. We have some work to do around when we are resetting the EBITAC versus EBIT1 in terms of how we are because we're changing that part of the equation.

Anders Svensson

Executives
#9

I think now we have a chance to achieve the targets which we have had basically always, right, we have a ROCE target of 15% also previously, but we were always around 9%,10% historically. Now we actually have a chance to achieve that and hopefully build on that going forward, I can grow our targets even further beyond 15%. But that's where we start.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#10

Super, thank you very much for presentation. I would like to talk about the growth targets, firstly, at 4% to 6% organically. And to me, it seems like it's compared or coming from the 2019 and 2024 sort of average where we've grown to 3%. But I guess that arguably the market has been very weak during the circumstances. So if you could elaborate a bit how much to get to the 4% to 6% is markets improving? Or is it from the 2019 and 2024 circumstances and then your own ability to drive growth? If you could just discuss.

Anders Svensson

Executives
#11

Yes. So there have been some really good years in that '19 to '25, right? We had the bounce back from COVID, which was everyone grew whatever you did, like -- so supply chain was a problem. But if you look after that bounce back, it's been very fast, is market has been tough, and we have also had problems to get our innovation cycles to converge into new products in the market. which means competition gets close to you, right, if you are the leader. So what we see now is that the market doesn't look very much better. It looks quite stable going forward. or maybe I say no, but at the same level. With in securities of war, et cetera, and also difficulty within construction, agriculture, it doesn't seem to turn very quickly as examples. However, we see that we have new products coming to market, which I elaborated based on. There will also be new products going forward within this year. We are very disciplined now fully accountable divisions that will invest in initiatives that will create growth and not invest in group initiatives that might yield something later. So much more focused investments and focus from the divisions, much more focused on customer-facing initiatives, meaning go-to-market models, Henning will talk about that, for example, within Geosystems and how we optimize our SG&A investments to pay off the best in terms of sales also going forward. So if the market is as it is now, we should generate the 4% to 6% growth. So we are not expecting a big tailwind to achieve.

Tom Hull

Executives
#12

Great. We'll go to [ Andre ] down, and then we'll do one from online.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#13

I have a question -- a couple of questions on the bubble chart, please. I can't avoid that. There was a couple there on the right-hand side, and I just wondered if any of these things fixed just with the cost program that you're already implementing? And then this was a bigger one in Geosystems right into stability actually area. So I wonder if you could comment on how that's been moving over time? Has that been moving to the left or already to the right? And what would that need to do to get itself into a profitability mode.

Anders Svensson

Executives
#14

Yes. So we are not discussing in principle, the name of the bubbles. But we, of course, want them all to move to the right where you are in a growth phase. But what we're doing in different management teams is to put targets and also incentive targets that push us towards fixing the problems you have. So like I said, it's not that if you are in stability, you are not getting a growth target. You are getting a target to do a turnaround or to do a divestment of part of your business, which doesn't work, et cetera. So that's how we drive the progress in those different strategic mandates backed by management incentives so that everyone is incentivized on what we actually want them to do and not some general group incentive. So I think this kind of thing is supporting. And our ambition is, of course, to drive everything up towards the right-hand side, but we also intend to make acquisitions like with Waygate, where we will get new businesses, which are also across the mandate of stability, profitability growth. And this is actually how we generate value for shareholders point. If we bought everything up in the top right corner, we have nothing to fix. So we need to pay a lot of money, and it would be very difficult to generate a lot of value from that. So we want to buy businesses that are in attractive markets, that we are the right owner for that can generate double-digit earnings on an annual basis going forward.

Tom Hull

Executives
#15

Great. Okay. We'll take a question from online now. And this might be best directed at our CTO, Burkhard, but I'll leave that to you, Anders. So can we give some examples of proof of why AI is a demand driver for Hexagon?

Anders Svensson

Executives
#16

Yes. I think there are -- there are quite a lot of proof to that. But you're right. So where is Burkhard there. So I leave the question to Burkhard, if you will.

Burkhard Boeckem

Executives
#17

Absolutely right. What our customers want from the data that they get of our sensors and workflows and software is to get insights in what they have measured. Whether it's on the construction side, you want to measure the progress, what has been done, is it according to plan? Or is my elevator shaft largely enough in order to then be installed with the elevator or basically, whether it's in the manufacturing intelligence environment is this tornado line on the body in white on the car in specifications. And in order to have this AI working, which we call spatial AI up to the specifications. Our customers need reliable and precise data for this and where the -- this is normally where they use our sensor. So more resolution, the more precision and the more accuracy and station fidelity we give into the models, the better will be the results of the AI and the more trustworthy it will be. And therefore, you need high-precision sensors. And that's why we see a boost on this. And in order to fully end-to-end the workflow, we also build AI in our software product that these insights can be autonomously generated.

Tom Hull

Executives
#18

Great. Any other questions in the room? Yes. that's the one here in the middle.

Johan Eliason

Analysts
#19

Johan, SB1. Just a question on Robotics. I thought you mentioned that you would consider partnerships going forward with that sort of you're investing now like a VC company and then eventually we will look for a potential buyer of parts of it? Or how should we think about the robotic business right now?

Anders Svensson

Executives
#20

So it's a business which we believe a lot in going forward. We also believe that it will not generate lots of revenues very quickly because it's a long transition, we believe. We have a lot of interested companies and Arnaud is here, he will talk later on this. So maybe that question would be better directed to him. But we are considering different strategic alternatives on how to fund this in the period until it actually is generating more revenues and earnings. And because that could be, let's say, 5 years, 7 years, I don't know. But it's not a 3-year plan until this is a business which is generating a lot of revenues and profits. And this is also why we exclude it from the targets that Enrique was discussing. And how exactly that we'll see, we will come back to how that setup will be. But clearly, we are looking into potential partnerships to also to accelerate our development within this area because there's lots of investments required to keep the momentum that we currently have. And until we have a solution for that, we will invest Hexagon invest to win. So we will not take down investments in this part and lose what we have basically. That's what I can say today.

Tom Hull

Executives
#21

Great. I think we've got time for one more question. So just in the middle here.

Simon Granath

Analysts
#22

Simon Granath with ABG. Anders, you had -- you previously implied that you have been lagging in terms of product launches, but they are now entering the market. But how about prices? Is your assessment that you've also been lagging on prices also given your comments about being a price leader and a follow-up on that, how much should we expect in terms of tailwinds from pricing going forward given your current targets?

Anders Svensson

Executives
#23

I would say, in some areas, we have been a bit slow on pricing when it comes to FX and when it comes to tariffs, I also talked about this with the Q1 report. So we have an effect of FX. I think it was 60 bps and tariffs around the 50 bps. And we haven't been acting quick enough to compensate for that in the beginning of the year. At the end of the quarter, we took the initiatives that we had to take to compensate for that. The full effect of that will not be seen in Q2. It will be seen in Q3 because the implementation is 2 to 3 months in some of our businesses before you see the full impact. But we consider ourselves as the price leader, and we will continue to use pricing as a means to both generate reported growth, but also to generate strong gross margins going forward. And that's why we will continue to do our innovation because that solidifies our position as a price leader. So if there's anyone that thinks that we are slowing down investments in R&D and innovation to kind of get a better result short term. That is not a strategy, which we would ever accept in any part of our company, then you need to work somewhere else.

Tom Hull

Executives
#24

Great. Okay. I think that's what we've got time for now. So if you are going to take a 10-minute break, which will bring you to just after 02:00 and then we'll reconvene for MI systems. And obviously, Enrique and Anders will be back at the end of the day for more questions. Thank you.

Anders Svensson

Executives
#25

Thank you. [Break]

Andreas Renulf

Executives
#26

Okay. Thank you. Welcome back, everyone. My name is Andreas Renulf I will be -- I'm the President of the Manufacturing Intelligence business area, and I will take you through the business area here for another 30 minutes or so. I'm in this position since May 2025. So it's roughly 1 year. even though I've only been here for a year in this role, I've spent my whole career in Industrial Technologies. I'm very much at home with our customers and with the business. I wanted to just give you two reflections from when I joined in this role a year ago. And the first one is that we were organized for synergy. We called it One MI. And it sort of makes sense, at least in theory, because many of the customers were the same. But if you look at the customer persona, they were actually not the same. So we had quite limited real synergies in that setup. And what I found that was that we were quite centralized, and we took a lot of decisions quite far away from the customer. And we were not fast enough in that model. So what Anders have explained here with the Hexagon way it fits perfect for this business area. The second one is that I have worked with China for the last 20 years, and I've never seen anything coming close to the level of capability and strength that we have in China for MI. Fantastic local leadership. They have built up an offering which is good, better and best. So we are competing in the complete pyramid of the market there. We have made some acquisitions in the past. But we have only used the localization to China of the technology for the made in China, and that's been good. But we haven't actually tapped on the possibility to export from China with all the capabilities we have there. So you will see that as one of the growth drivers that we'll be presenting. Before I get into this, just so that you get a feeling for the level of technical precision we talk about. If you pull out a hair and you look at it like this. It has a width of 75 to 85 microns. If you look at the ultra high accuracy, which is the most accurate machine that we deliver, that one has 0.3 microns. So 75 to 85 on the width of hair and 0.3 microns. So that's a level of technical differentiation we talk about here. I will give you an overview of the business area, then talk about customers and solutions, so you see where we play and how. I will go into to the market drivers, and most importantly, the growth strategy, which are the ones that we control ourselves. We made the acquisition of Waygate Technologies on April 13. So you will see that spread out in this presentation as well. So let's start to look at the business area as an overview. And this is now without the D&E numbers, which was divested in February. We have a serviceable addressable market of EUR 11 billion, and that is now including Waygate Technologies. Revenues of EUR 1.6 billion and an EBITAC of 22%. And if you look at that EBITAC of 22%, it's quite significantly higher than what our competitors are having here. I think we have been optimizing margin at the expense of growth to some extent in the past year. Cash conversion 100% last year, and we are at almost 7,000 employees. By industry, general manufacturing, and that is also what we have in machine shops where we sell the Computer Aided Manufacturing, the CAM software. Automotive, aerospace, roughly the same and then Electronics. And it's a totally global business. We have 42% of the business in APAC and the majority of that is actually in China. We are organized in 3 global businesses, and we did this actually from first of November last year. The first one is Stationary Metrology, where we have a market-leading position. You see a CMM here. This is actually the MAESTRO that we released last year. And what we mean with stationary is that the metrology measurement solution is stationary. So you bring the part to the measurement solution. We're having coordinate measurement machine. We have vision measurement machines for electronics, metrology software. And roughly 1/3 is aftermarket services in this business unit. Portable metrology, we're also the market leader. And here, instead, the measurement solution is portable. So we bring the measurement solution to the part, which means we can go in line or near the production line. Laser trackers, where we are quite famous, handheld laser scanners, which is an area which is growing fast. We did an acquisition of a company called ZG in China 3 years ago, and we are selling those all over the world right now. Portable arms, metrology software, calibration services for the aftermarket and then more and more of automated inspection solutions. Production software, here, we are top 3. And this is about generating managed and optimizing the CNC tool path. So very specifically for CNC machines. And this is what is called computer-aided manufacturing CAM software. We use this for production machining. We also use this for mold and die design and manufacturing. And this is the division which maybe have gotten the least love in the last couple of years. It's the smallest of the three and we have a lot of focus onto this business right now. Very sticky, very profitable and nice business. But some things that we are fixing here on the portfolio side during this year, so we can get into growth mode next year. I will take you through a couple of industries to show what we do in those industries and the needs they have. So let's start with aerospace. There are 16,000 airplanes on the commercial side in the order backlog end of 2025. It's all about production rates. And here, you see the fan blades of a jet engine behind those, there are 1,500 plates inside of that jet engine. Each and every one of them needs to be expected during production. And we expect with CMM on the outside with Waygate with the CT technology, computer tomography, they actually do the same inspection inside of the base. It's all about increasing the inspection rates and we did release the MAESTRO CMM last year, where we are up to 30% faster in doing this inspection. 95% of the plants in the world are touched by Hexagon technology. So we are very much entrenched into this market. Automotive, here, the trend and the needs are going towards having more measurement points when they are in this stage. So this is what we call body in white. When you form the body together, it's really, really important to make sure that you have the right quality at that point in time, both for the body itself but also for the process. So here, there are more and more measurements coming close to the line and in line. And there, we are offering standardized and modular PRESTO solutions, which are these type of automation inspection areas. 95% of course, touched by Hexagon today. So we are basically global on this business as well. The third area is within the general manufacturing, and this is now specifically machine shops. And I just want to draw your attention to the number here. We are transacting with more than 50,000 machine shops per year. These are typically less than 50 employees working in these machine shops. They are machining very, very critical components, but they can be level Tier 4, Tier 3, Tier 2 in the supply chain. One of the biggest amounts and needs here is to simplify the programming of the CNC machines because there is a skill gap, and it's hard to attract good engineers into this market. So we have launched a solution, which we call Hexagon ProPlanAI, which helps the program to optimize the path based on the CAD drawing. But you, of course, also need to know exactly how is my CNC machine working. So you need a digital twin of the CNC machine, and that is the data and the knowledge that we sit on. If we look at combining these market growth drivers, on the automotive side, it's a shift to electrical vehicle. That brings some new inspection requirements for batteries. There's also much more use of alumina, which is a material which is much less forgiving. Automation, near-line and in-line, that means that we basically increase the density of the sensors that are required. On the aerospace side, it's very much the inspection rate to work out of that backlog. But it's also the analysis of airplanes and jet engines that are actually in operation, and that is the remote vision inspection part in Waygate, which is coming into that part. In general industry, the demand for high-precision manufacturing is increasing. And on the electronics side, it's very much about faster new product innovation. So you need faster loops and quality checks during product introductions. AI is creating also surge in demand for very high-precision chips and high-performance chips and they need the level of accuracy that we can offer here. I will conclude on this part of the presentation by giving you an example from BYD. So you probably know BYD, the largest electrical vehicle company in the world. They delivered 4.6 million cars last year, headquartered in Shenzhen in China. We've had a partnership with BYD for more than 15 years in China. And BYD, they are a little bit special. They have verticalized on the electronics side. So we are basically offering them the whole pallet of the products that we have in Hexagon. They are our largest automotive account globally, which is quite rare for an international company like Hexagon to have the largest customer being in China. And when BYD is now expanding globally, they have put up a big plant in Hungary, for instance, they bring that equipment from China with them. And that is one of the inputs that got us to the idea here that we have to leverage our strength in China much, much more. With that, we will switch gears and talk a little bit about Waygate. Waygate Technologies, we had the signing and -- or we announced this on the 13th of April. Transaction value of $1.45 billion. We expect to close in the end of the year or late H2. $630 million in 2025, 10% EBIT margins, this is a carve-out from a company called Baker Hughes. And the customer persona are two different types. One is the one which is very similar to what we have in metrology, which is the head of quality ultimately. And the other one is the maintenance, repair and operations departments, MRO. And that is for non-destructive technologies that go into the asset integrity when the assets are in use as opposed to the manufacturing part. So why did we buy Waygate Technologies? The simplest reason is because it became available. This asset has not been available for the last 20 years because GE inspection services brought together 4 different companies. And it's not often that a market leader in a space which is very attractive from a growth perspective is coming into the market. So it gives us access to the NDT marketplace. It completes the measurement chain where we have been on the surface and Waygate is on the inside of objects. We did an acquisition already in 2019 of a company called Volume Graphics, and that is the de facto standard for software for CT hardware. So it's basically a perfect fit to complete that now. But it's also diversify and give us a new SAM to work in when it comes to the maintenance, repair and operations market, and that's for asset integrity. And that is a recurring growing market, and it has different characteristics there when it comes to the CapEx cycle compared to the manufacturing side, which we're used to. How do we then create value? Well, we have a clear path here on the margin expansion, and we are looking to extract value from this acquisition over a long period of time. We have the China manufacturing localization, and you will see more about the strength we have in China later on. That will drive some margin expansion on the Radiography division. We will be able to cross-sell between metrology and the CT business. And this is something where our competitor size has had this combination in the past, and they have been successful with that. Now we have it, and we will be able to put that into work. And we will evaluate strategies to improve the performance of the Imaging Solutions and the Ultrasonic Testing part. And when we get to the close, which will be later or end of the year here, we will look at different ways to improve the performance here, which could be to make acquisitions to get to a #1 position in certain areas or look for other ways to improve margin. So this is really not 1 NDT company. These are 4 different portfolios, and that's also how we will bring it into our company. If we start with remote vision inspection, this is here. Waygate is the market leader. They have a very good profit here of close to 30%. Revenue was EUR 148 million in 2025. It's the market leader in video borescopes. And a lot of this market is about testing the integrity of the blade in a jet engine. Here is a very clear mandate to grow. This is an anchor for us for the NDT market for MRO. Then we have the Radiography where there's a market position of 1 or 2 in the world. Revenues '25 of $183 million. This is where you get into what is called the computed tomography, the CT part. And this is primarily used to remanufacturing, which is where we have the natural and this is a very close adjacency to the metrology business that we have. This integrates directly with our Hexagon Volume Graphics software. It's a cross-sell of the CMM part and it's also the use of China for the synergy case. The mandate there is profitability to be able to execute on the synergies to get the profit up. Then we have Imaging Solutions, and this is Industrial X-ray. And a large part of this market is about X-ray film that go out into the asset integrity for MRO departments, checking valves in pipelines and things like this. There is a slow but sure shift from analog film to digital. And at the same time, this is a good business. It's a little bit unusual to Hexagon in the way that it's more of the reselling business from AGFA films compared to what we're used to, where we technically differentiate more. But this is one of the businesses that we will have a look at when we get to the close and see how we can improve the performance. Then we have ultrasonic testing, which is a very, very interesting and important technology and it's one that has a good future in the NDT space. Here, we have revenue of $93 million. It's actually two different businesses. One is for testing machines, which is more of like a system integration business and the other one is for handheld ultrasonic testing machines. Here, the profitability is not at a level where we want it to be. So when we get this into the company, we will look at ways to improve that performance. If we look at the market overall, we have a TAM, total addressable market, of EUR 16 billion; a SAM of EUR 11 billion. As I said before, by including nondestructive technologies into the SAM, we increased that with EUR 3 billion. If we look at the different divisions, stationary metrology, where we have a market position, 1, is growing slightly slower than the market, and that is because part of that growth is taken by portable metrology. Customers want to get closer and closer to the production lines. One other part of that growth is actually being taken by computed tomography. And that's another reason why we acquired Waygate because -- if you, for instance, are into castings, you want to do one measurement and then you want to measure the surface and the inside at the same time. Portable metrology, 46%. We are #1 there. Production software, 5% to 7%. We're top 3, very nice, sticky business and NDT with Waygate, 46% and a little bit depending, as you saw before on the modalities, we're top 2. Financial performance. So if we look at the graph on the right-hand side, you will see that we were operating at very high organic growth in '23, and we have been since COVID. In '24, we had a drop. And in '24, we actually were minus 1 -- sorry, 0 and in '25, we were plus 1 only. And that is not how you can run this business. We really need to have growth. So we are seeing a trend now that we stabilize ourselves on the organic growth side. We had a good first quarter at 9%. But we see a stable trend going forward here. We have been able to defend the EBITAC margins relatively well given 0 growth and some currency headwinds, especially in 2025. And there is also an element in the OpEx here, which there's a variable component. So it helps us a little bit in tough times, and you don't get the full leverage in good times. Looking at the recurring revenues, we have gone from 21% to 23%. Software services, same as 48% and gross margin staying at 58%. Coming over to how we win, and these are more foundational pillars for us. We have some technology. What you see here is a picture of an angular encoder. And this is technology that we share with our sister business areas. It's patented, and we use that a lot, especially on the tracker side in our case. We also have the 6 degrees of freedom technology, which is another one that we're using frequently within our different business areas. The entrenched market leadership being #1 in metrology, it gives you a possibility to get the customer awareness, the pricing power and also the economies of scale for production. So we have production in the U.S., Europe and in China. And complementary software portfolio, everything we do is a combination of software, hardware and services. But we are actually overrepresented on the software side still today. So we have some businesses, Geomatics, for instance, spatial analyzer, where we are selling software, which is agnostic to the hardware. But most of what we do, it's solutions to be able to make sure that we solve the problem that the customer has in his application. And this is an area which is very, very important for the future. This is where if you look at competition coming from China, they tend to be more skilled on the hardware side than to be able to make the software to fit the application of the customer here. Now we get to the most important part. So how do we drive growth and performance and which are our growth drivers? So I will go through 4 of them. Next-generation innovative products, increased customer focus through the decentralized operating model, China as a global growth engine and performance improvements in Waygate. We start with MAESTRO, which is the product that you see here. It's a CMM, and it's 20 years since there was a new generation of CMMs coming. This is a platform, and it takes in the area of 2 to 3 years before we have all the sizes for all the objects to go in because this can be huge. You can put the whole truck in one of these. So it takes some time before we have all the sizes, all the probes and the feature there, but this is something that gives us a good opportunity to grow the market in the future and take some market share as well. And it's all about the 30% higher throughput, which the customers are looking for. ATS800. So this is another member of the family of the trackers, and we have it on display today, absolutely amazing. It scans down to level of microns from 40 meters away. So you can have it here and you can scan over on an airplane body, which is 40 meters away. So it increases the productivity for the customers, and we have very limited competition when we get to this level here. So this is one which you will see coming into the numbers much faster. Then the operating model. I touched upon this in the first reflection. And we were organized towards One MI with design engineering, production software, stationary and portable metrology together. And I have a lot of background in decentralized operating model. And I've seen what that focus can do. The issue is when you have global product lines and you have your primary P&L in different regions, it's very difficult to make sure that you actually develop the things that the customers really need there because your drive is coming from different needs in different regions. So splitting out this EUR 1.6 billion into 3 global divisions that are taking the decisions much, much closer is what we have done. And I think already in Q1, we see some effects of this in the organic growth because there is a completely different focus right now. What we do on a quarterly basis is that in each of these divisions, they check every R&D project to make sure that they are fulfilling the needs of the customer for that project. And we have already started to make some pruning into the portfolio because that comes very naturally with the division presidents owning their business, having the transparency to see where am I making money, where can I make more money. You also get into a little bit of cleaning up in your portfolio, which is happening right now. And then you get the speed. The third area, which to me is very, very -- it's quite amazing the level of strength and capability that we have in China. And for us, this is a unique differentiator because our customer -- our competitors cannot do this. We have a position in China where we believe we have 50% market share. And as I said before, this has been built up by a fantastic management over the last 20 years plus. And it's always under good, better and best for a product portfolio, making sure you cover the whole pyramid there. Many international companies end up only playing in the best category in the market. And that is difficult because that is easy that you get disrupted from the bottom. So they have done this really, really well. We have been successful in the technology localization to China, but we have stopped there. But in the meantime, we have built up the right cost level, the right infrastructure to manufacture and also the right technical skills. Now we plan to address new market segments in what we call the global South, and we start with Southeast Asia. So that's a given. From there, we go into Europe and North America, and we do that with the good and the better products, not the best products, those we already have local production in those regions. And with this, we will also be able to optimize the manufacturing cost by sourcing more from China, both in components and in products. I know that some of you have been in Qingdao in China and seen our facility there. But for those who have not, I just wanted to take you through a quick fly through. This is from the demo area, which is huge and everything you see here is presented in how our solutions are helping the customer with his or her application. Here, for instance, you see aerospace with the trackers, but it's all put into the application context of the customer. Here, we are into the manufacturing space, and you see that it's large. It has a lot of capacity. It's very modern. We have AGVs moving around the CMMs and so on. And it can take a lot more capacity in here without any additional investments. So this is really exciting from my perspective. Another exciting one is -- are the performance drivers from Waygate. So this is the fourth growth driver for us. It completes the measurement chain, which we discussed. We measure on the outside, Waygate measures on the inside or inspect on the inside. Customers in aerospace, automotive, battery, they would prefer to get these measurements from one player, and now we have that solution. From a software integration perspective, we already have Volume Graphics. So it's a very natural connection to combine these 2, and there is a good cross-sell opportunity with the metrology business that we are in today. But I think in all honesty, we are the market leaders in the markets we have been now for many years. And we need areas to work in where we can do more add-on acquisitions as well. And this is a perfect opportunity for us to enter into the asset integrity to the maintenance, repair and operations market, which is growing in a very, very attractive marketplace. This is driven by utilization, decoupled from the CapEx cycles that you have in manufacturing, and we believe that we will be able to grow in these markets going forward. The value creation opportunities, we have very clear opportunities to improve Waygate's performance significantly and primarily on the synergy side within the CT business on the Radiography, especially with China as well. That takes us to the targets. And let's start on the right-hand side. You see the number, 22%. That's the EBITAC excluding DME for 2025. What we do is that we adjust for the Waygate acquisition pro forma. So 2025, including Waygate would have looked at -- would have been at 19% EBITAC. From there, we have a number of growth initiatives that will take us up to 21% to 24% and be in that area. We plan to grow in line with the market, 4% to 6%. And in some areas, as you saw on stationary, that means we will actually try to grow that a little bit faster than what the market is doing with some synergies and new products and so on. But we have the volume pricing inflation here, the next-generation offerings, MAESTRO and ATS800. We have the operating model. We have China as a global growth, and we have the performance improvements from Waygate as the last bucket there. So these are our growth drivers and focus for the next couple of years. To summarize, we are pretty confident with the business strength. We're having a great position in the market. It's innovative new products coming to market. We have a good mix of software and hardware, which is really important to make sure we keep that edge on the software side. We have a new operating model, which will drive accountability and speed. China as this global growth engine where we are quite unique compared to our competitors that do not have such a position there, and we will really try to leverage as much as we can on that. And returning to growth, we see that we are on stable grounds right now, and this business, it should naturally grow. That will lead to the margin conversion and cash flow generation. And finally, Waygate value creation. So the performance improvement opportunities across the Waygate portfolio, that is something that we are pretty clear on how we will execute on that. So that's what I wanted to share with you. I thank you very much for your attention, and I will hand over to Henning, who will take you through business area Geosystems.

Henning Sandfort

Executives
#27

So welcome to Geosystems. Every infrastructure decision, whether you lay train tracks or you renovate a building or you build a tunnel starts with one thing, which is knowing exactly where you are, knowing context. And we are in the business of bringing certainty, certainty with geospatial intelligence as a foundational layer to all infrastructure work. From a young age, I've personally been very fascinated by how the world runs. And today, I bring 25 years of experience in industrial technology businesses and over 10 years in P&L roles. At Siemens, I led portfolio management and factory automation and then since 2018, ran as a Global CEO, the Product business and Building Technologies and leading a quite significant technological and organizational transformation. And my name is Henning Sandfort. And since early last year, I'm President of the Geosystems business area. So you might ask now why joining Hexagon? Well, because I strongly believe in the opportunity of that business, a business which is highly relevant and one which is architected for healthy growth in the years to come. And today, this is what I will elaborate on, walking you through our business, the value we provide to customers, taking stock of our performance to date and even more importantly, why I'm confident on future value creation and what we'll do to change that. So let's dive into the business of Geosystems. This business was built by pioneering leaders, people who more than 100 years ago, did not only start a company, but they inspired the whole industry. And ever since, we have built and expanded leading positions when it comes, for instance, to precision surveying and reality capture, leading positions that also build on the core capabilities that we share across Hexagon. So I'll start with a short overview of who we are and what we do. And from there, because we heard it's sometimes complicated to understand what is it really that we do in Geo. I'll walk you through some of our customer examples, where we play, what we solve and why it all matters. And then I'll walk you through our financial performance to date, our midterm targets that we are committing to as part of the group's updated ambition. And I close with the growth strategy, the specific levers we will pull to deliver on those targets. So coming back to why I was excited to join Hexagon. It starts here with who we are in Geo. As a EUR 1.4 billion business, we are a large business, market leader in key segments where we play, which is a EUR 10 billion serviceable market of technologies that are used to capture, measure, visualize and analyze the physical world. We're very profitable and maintained a 23% EBITAC despite the headwinds that we experienced in the last 2 years. And we are very well diversified across industries and geographies with focus on surveying buildings and infrastructure as well as a strong footprint in EMEA and the Americas. This is truly a fantastic business. But let me be transparent. I'm clearly not satisfied with the negative organic growth that we experienced recently, which we will change. And I will share in this presentation how my team and I are currently acting on that. As of January this year, we reorganized into 6 vertically integrated divisions, each with full P&L. And this replaced a matrix structure that had become significantly too complex and was getting in the way of speed, customer focus and effective capital allocation. When I joined last year, that need was immediately apparent. And given the breadth of portfolio, I wanted to sharpen our ability to innovate and sell end-to-end along our product lines. This approach is now embedded in how we operate as the Hexagon way. So we asked those questions like where is demand distinct, where is ownership blurred today? And those answers shape 6 divisions that own the results, the strategy, portfolio and route to market. The structure is simple and the accountability is real, as you heard also from my colleagues. And these are our 6 divisions, Geomatics, Construction Trade Solutions, Machine Control, Radar & Monitoring, Scanning & Mapping and Construction Software & services. Before I dive deeper into those, let us first look at the reality of our customers. And our customer base is quite broad. We are serving professionals, construction and engineering companies, infrastructure owners and operators, mining companies and much more. And they experienced many shared challenges, shortage of skilled labor, both in construction craft and also in technology, rework and productivity loss, still a very high level of fatal accidents and roadblocks to effective collaboration, things as simple as sharing data on the same project and all struggle to integrate all the digital tools due to the industry's strong fragmentation. And our technologies are and will become even more relevant to address these challenges. So we deliver highest precision, reliably and efficiently to significantly reduce waste and rework. We build advanced features but still easy to use and easy to deploy. We build our solutions such that data can be connected and then also shared. And with our broad and world-class service network, we help our customers to take best use of our portfolio throughout the whole life cycle. And most importantly, we help our customers to gain an edge to be more innovative and more productive. Now let me bring this to life with a real example, a rail project, but one that basically represents any project. So say you want to build a new rail, what do you do? Well, first, it's essential to understand the exact topography of the rail corridor. So our customers can take our highest precision sensors to create an accurate model by measuring from the air, from the ground and even detect what is underground. And this is then the basis for everything that will follow what being designed, planned and built. Second, we can accurately estimate how much dirt to move, how and where in the most cost-efficient way. And then we use our Robotic Total Stations, one that's back in our demo area to accurately install all relevant components from foundations to bridges to tracks. And then we move from plan to action. Excavation plans feed into our machine control systems. And based on that data, automation can then deliver productivity in the field. Fifth, we have solutions that can then help track progress and assess the quality of work in the field. So it's moved structures built and rails installed. And then to conclude the construction phase, asset operation relies on an accurate as-built documentation. We have those capabilities, including 360 photos and as-built 3D models, which serves then as a definite visual record for any rail operator. And then during operations, our systems are used to monitor the health of rail structures. Robotic Total Stations and radar systems measure life, the movement of structures, reducing the risk of failure and ultimately, potential loss of life. Reality capture sensors regularly scan the corridor like tunnels, vegetation above tracks and others to aid in maintenance work. And we don't do that alone. We work with technology partners globally to complement our solutions. And the benefits our customers get from using our solutions are very significant. You see here a number of examples. Let me highlight 2 application examples for our total stations. First, reducing the risk of rework. Tens of thousands of kilometers of high-speed rail in China have been built using our 0.5 second accuracy total stations. And do you know what 0.5 second accuracy precision is? Basically, it means you can measure the thickness of a coin in 1 kilometer distance. So basically putting it down at our bridge. And that's the device that you see in the back. Second, extending the lifetime of assets, fundamentally improving return on invest. Our Robotic Total Stations can detect critical structural movements that need repair and therefore, reducing the risk of failure by 40% to 50%. Now with all of this in mind, let me share some more insights into our 6 divisions. Geomatics focuses on accurate measurement across a wide range of distances, complemented by a strong position portfolio, addressing surveying, construction, monitoring and basically across all major industries. Construction Trade Solutions focused on measuring accurate points at shorter distance and therefore, more prone to interior finishing and layout in the building vertical, supported by a distinctive portfolio of laser distance and leveling solutions. Machine Control focused on earthmoving, paving and drilling applications with features that drastically also improve safety, both for humans as well as other equipment. Radar Monitoring focused on measuring and monitoring changes in large surfaces at long and short distances, serving 90% of the world's largest open pit mine operators as well as ground penetrating radars to detect utility infrastructure and pipes. Then Scanning & Mapping. Scanning & Mapping is focused on reality capture, terrestrial, handheld and airborne as well as software and mapping and processing services for customers in building infrastructure surveying and also public markets. And then last but not least, construction software and services focused on 3 main areas: estimating construction insights and virtual design services with a strong focus on the North American markets. And similarly to MI, it's a hardware/software services mix. These solutions all come with their distinct software layer for data pull, processing and upload as well as various workflows for productivity in the field. Thus, we offer hardware-agnostic solutions and services, which support with data integration, visualization and analytics. Markets like infrastructure are addressed by every division and some are more distinct like Mining, for instance, and Radar Monitoring or public customers in Geomatics and Scanning & Mapping. Yes, but don't just take our word for it. Let's look at 3 projects that bring all of this to life. And I'll start with ANCFCC in Morocco. For many applications, standard satellite positioning is simply not accurate enough. You will be off by meters. And that doesn't work when you want to define property boundaries or plan infrastructure. And this is where reference networks come in that continuously correct satellite signals, enabling centimeter level accuracy in real time. In Morocco, our technology was used to build Africa's largest single country GNSS reference network, delivering that level of positioning across the entire country. And that builds reliable land records and consistent urban planning. And such a trusted reference network becomes a critical infrastructure, a foundational layer of how you measure and manage a country over the long term. Second example, Officina del Design is an Italian artisanal metal carpentry business producing very unique designs for complex locations. And as you can imagine, to fulfill these high demands for their clients, they need precise measurements to tailor to this job. And with our Leica iCON trade solution, which is the first to market also based on technology from our MI friends, they gain more than 80% efficiency by speeding up every step of the job. And this solution dramatically reduces losses generated by mistakes, which can be detrimental for trade contractors working with very costly materials. So precision is truly not a nice to have. It is our customers' profit margin. And then BE&K in the U.S. How do you know that you built what you planned? Tracking progress and quality on a project with multiple contractors using different tools and data is quite difficult. And BE&K uses our software and services as well as our reality capture standards on one of the largest U.S. pharma projects. They track progress and check against the design model. Issues are flagged live, not weeks down the line when they cause extra work, extra cost and serious delays. That means better alignment across teams and stronger control over schedule, quality and ultimately, project execution. Now all our divisions continue to push the boundaries of what's possible with innovation. And if we reflect on our past, many of the segments we're leaders in today were new segments that we created or scaled. And today, I want to share 3 examples with you of how we maintain market leadership and want to grow market share. First, high-end surveying. This is our absolute stronghold and will remain so in the years to come. Last year's launch of the Leica TS20 was yet another very important milestone for us, but also for the industry. The TS20 is not just an update. It marks a step change built on a completely new technology platform. It delivers significant double-digit productivity in the field. And it brings Edge AI into the field that supports operators in the moment where speed and especially reliability matters most. Second, structural health monitoring. A recent study by McKinsey highlighted that 43% of roads are in poor condition. And even more concerning, 7.5% of bridges are structurally deficient. Our customers need solutions to safely monitor, maintain and operate these assets. And to open up this market for us, we launched MyMo, the world's first possible noncontact structural health monitoring solution. It can be deployed anywhere by just one operator for life monitoring of bridges, dams or other civil infrastructure. And third, with Hexagon Multivista, we bring AI-driven deviation analysis into construction workflows. We automatically compare millimeter accurate scans to 2D and 3D models. This allows for fully automated verification instead of manual spot checks. And deviations are identified early because before they turn into expensive rework delays and cost. And especially on large projects, you can imagine that this impact is quite material. Now let's zoom out. Let me share with you some key market trends that will sustain and drive our growth. The industries and customers we serve will continue to grow due to some of these irreversible macro trends, ongoing urbanization, digitalization of cities. Strained and aging infrastructure needs to be maintained and monitored. Shortages of skilled labor require productivity improvement that we can only deliver with technology. And AI has started to reshape our field. The examples I showed are just the beginning of truly purposeful use. And growing energy and critical mineral needs drive construction and mining. But within those macro trends, there are structural growth drivers for the next 3 to 5 years. First, the build world will continue to expand. Growth in infrastructure, energy urbanization is real and will provide the basic layer of growth. And digitalization construction gains traction and will never get back. So digitalized assets can drive 20% to 30% less cost over its life cycle. Second, we see an acceleration in automation to improve productivity, safety and quality. This elevates growth beyond the construction GDP. And our technology is a critical enabler in that field. So reality capture solutions, for instance, can reduce rework by 5% to 25%. The third layer of growth is data-driven outcomes, fueled by digitalization and AI. It's not only about creating more trusted data. It is about increasing flow and use of that data. So use cases like automated progress tracking and structure health monitoring deliver real commercial value. And this is how our customers today differentiate and compete. After a thorough review of our business, it became clear that there's a lot of opportunity for us to grow by staying focused and execute with excellence in our core. Adjacent solutions such as CAD and project management software are now spinning off with Octave. Therefore, our total addressable market is around EUR 14 billion, and the serviceable market is 2/3 or roughly EUR 10 billion. And here is where we have strong leadership positions, but also plenty of opportunities to grow. We believe our core markets will grow, ranging from about 4% to 5% in the core surveying up to 10% in segments in Construction, Software and Services. In the last 3 years since the last Capital Market Day, we made meaningful progress. So we increased recurring revenues to 33% and the share of software and services to 41%. And we kept our strong gross margin performance at 64%, only negatively impacted by FX headwinds. But as I said in the beginning, I'm not satisfied with our organic growth. As you can see on the graph, we experienced a decline in growth from '23 through '24. And now in '25, we took a few critical steps. We cut OpEx and headcount to reflect the lower top line and also FX pressures. As you're aware, we took the proactive decision to also destock our dealer channels by around EUR 30 million. We reviewed our product portfolio and impaired part of our capitalized R&D as was presented earlier. And we optimized our innovation invest, focusing on high success initiatives. Our actions resulted in stopping the negative momentum and stabilizing revenue, returning to growth in quarter 3 for the first time in almost 2 years. The growth continued in quarter 4, if you take out the impact of destocking. And with our new operating model and renewed focus, I'm very confident that '26 will now be the year where the momentum is changing to consistent positive organic growth. In quarter 1, we achieved 2% organic growth, the highest since 10 quarters and still impacted by destocking, which is now concluded. And this is where we will take it from here. We target an organic growth of 3% to 5% and an increase of EBITAC margins in the range of 25% to 27%. And we will deliver on that ambition through market-leading next-generation products, a deeper share in our core and disciplined expansion into some high potential new segments. Our divisions own their targets with clear accountabilities and a direct line between customer insight, product development and also capital allocation. We have clear levers, structural productivity gains and pricing discipline to fully offset inflation headwinds. So what makes us confident that we can deliver, especially on sustainably reigniting growth? It's a set of competitive advantages and concrete growth levers that I want to guide you through now. So I personally have spent the last year not only refining how we operate and where we're headed, but I had this opportunity to talk to a lot of our global customers, partners and also team members, understanding the market as well as the fabric of Geosystems. First, this organization clearly lives and breathes with a world-class mix of passionate experts across all functions. Our products are the most robust and deliver highest precision from the desert to the Arctic. This builds not only on our innovation strength, but equally on our superior process engineering, our in-house assembly and testing facilities consistent across our factory network. This tested know-how is hard to transfer or replicate. And then during the equipment life cycle, customers can rely on experts in more than 250 service locations worldwide, all trained in our Leica competence center in Switzerland, being it internal staff or from our partners. Second, we own and advance the foundational technologies in our products, such as high-volume core components like angle encoders or electronic distance measurement chips for multimillion product cost savings or proprietary algorithm libraries for superior image processing, SLAM or sensor fusion. Plus, we have a strong network of equally innovative partners who support us, which makes it even harder to replicate. And our teams know how to innovate. We created a lot of the world's first, especially at the intersection between surveying and reality capture and advanced radar technology or combining imaging and LiDAR in an airborne sensor. And third, we're trusted for high-stakes tasks. When it has to be right for us, it's more than just a marketing tagline. It's who we are and what we do when safety, productivity and economic values are at stake. It's our commitment that creates repeat business and high customer retention. And now these are the main levers why I'm very confident we will return to growth. In dark blue are the divisions where the lever is most impactful. First and foremost, we're renewing all core portfolios with next-gen products as part of our regular innovation cycles. Example -- examples here include our new TS20, our new radar system, ArcSAR Neo, new airborne sensors such as CityMapper and a lot more to come in the next quarters this year. These releases create growth cycles and drive market share growth. Our radar innovations are ahead of their business plan. And since the release of TS20, which was only a few months ago, our overall sales of high-end robotic total stations grew by more than 20% year-on-year, and it added 10% new customers, which is a strong early indicator for market share growth. Second, we are strengthening our offering in mid-range segments, enlarging our reach in those segments that typically grow faster than the high end. Our brand promises when it has to be right, but right can mean a lot of different things across customer needs and applications. So what we will do is we will combine off-the-shelf components with differentiating capabilities of Leica technology and service. So for example, we will expand our GNSS portfolio with cost-competitive sensors, intuitive service offer and then midrange robotic total stationing, shifting the battle from just features to productivity and all built on our latest technology platform. Similarly, we'll expand our slope monitoring offering to address more cost-sensitive applications. Third, we're expanding in construction, which we expect to grow significantly above our business average starting '27. Our priorities are to continue to adapt and strengthen portfolio for those users in construction, for instance, with our ICON GNSS and robotic toll stations, integrate workflows relevant for those construction personas, which are different from the core surveying. And we will invest more in the dedicated sales channels aimed at those construction contractors. Our fourth growth engine is digital offering and services. We believe in the power of connected data between the field and the office and between different office solutions and the cloud. As an example, coming again back to our new TS20 platform, we released an optional feature that allows customers to connect the center to the cloud for data sharing, firmware updates or also some future AI upgrades. And although it's optional, more than 80% of our customers bought it. And this is not only great news commercially, but it's also an early customer validation of our digital services approach. Last year, I also had the opportunity to visit one of the largest European infrastructure projects. And our customer was struggling to connect the more than 100 digital solutions on this project. To address -- this is just one example of how painful data integration is in our industry. And to address those customer pain points, we continue to connect critical field data as one sort of truth and share consistently between users. As an example, last week, we announced the integration of our 2 major cloud platforms for surveying and for scan data into one platform, which is Hexagon Geo Cloud. In parallel, we also continue to connect to third-party software such as design authoring tools or construction management. And fifth, and this applies to all divisions, each division has now dedicated sales teams with a clear and aligned focus, delivering market feedback directly back to product management. And in parallel, we streamline our go-to-market processes, elevate how we work with partners and apply best practices much more swiftly across divisions. And this will improve speed and cost productivity in our sales and service. And finally, inorganic growth. Here, we focus especially on radar monitoring, scanning mapping and construction software and services. We have our eyes on a number of targets, some of which we already have worked with in the past. And then broadly, there are several themes that will accelerate our growth, to name a few, Geospatial AI as a basis for more data outcomes, autonomous field data capture technologies and more and more digital services. And in parallel, we expect further traction in the infrastructure, health, energy and data center segments. Now let me close with something that reflects everything that we talked about. Infrastructure is one of the defining themes of our era, USD 106 trillion required globally through 2040. But the nature of infrastructure is changing. It's not longer just steel and concrete, it's data, software and intelligence layered across the entire life cycle of assets. Labor shortages, aging infrastructure and the accelerated digitalization, these forces are shifting value towards more integrated life cycle solutions, services and software. And Geospatial Intelligence is the connective tissue running through all of that. And we always have been that layer. For over 100 years, we have built technologies that measure, capture and interpret the build world from serving land before the first foundation is laid to monitoring assets in operation. And today, we're giving that ambition a name that matches that scale. Our business will be known as Hexagon Infrastructure and Geospatial, a name that honors where we come from and defines where we're going. What we do matters. We help measure, build and maintain the infrastructure that the world depends on. And we are the company that people turn to when stakes are high and when it has to be right. We are expanding on a very profitable core in a large and growing market with structural demand for precision, automation and digitalization of the physical world. And we have a clear path forward with our new operating model to deliver with discipline on a return to consistent growth, continued high margins and strong cash generation. With that, back to you.

Tom Hull

Executives
#28

Thank you very much. Great. Thank you very much. Do we have any questions in the room for either Henning or Andreas? Yes. Hemal just at the front here. Sorry.

Hemal Bhundia

Analysts
#29

Just a thought on China, which in MI is such an important driver, both for the cross-selling opportunity and all of that. Just how dependent are you on personnel versus how much is in the actual platform, so to say. Just thought you obviously had a very impressive management, but just to understand the dependence on personnel.

Andreas Renulf

Executives
#30

Absolutely. I think we've had a great management for 25 years. And what that does is that it basically gives you a fantastic culture in the whole organization. So we have more than 2,000 people in MI China today. It's a fantastic organization that collaborates very well globally as well. So I would say that we are not at all dependent from that perspective on the people. We even do it like this in China that we try to take people straight out of university and reform them. So many of the people that we have, have never worked in another company. So that's one of the recipes why we are so strong compared to competition...

Tom Hull

Executives
#31

Great. Any other questions in the room? Yes. Simon.

Simon Granath

Analysts
#32

I have a question on Waygate with respect to the margin upside you expect in that business for the next couple of years. Is that margin improvement contingent on all businesses performing better operationally? Or is there any -- if some of them won't perform to align with your expectation, would you consider divesting them?

Andreas Renulf

Executives
#33

Yes. So if we split them up into the remote visual inspection to start with, that one is performing at good profit levels. It's growing well. It has the right tailwinds from a market perspective. So that one will create value by just continuing. If you look on the radiography side and the CT side, there we have a lot of different synergies, which I went through before. So there, we see good growth both organically, but also especially on the profit side. When we talk about the other 2 businesses, they are operating at levels today where we see that we should be able to improve that. But I have to say that we have taken mainly into account the profitable growth journey on the first 2 when we have made those assessments.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#34

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Tom Hull

Executives
#35

We can hear you, but...

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#36

Both of you have made progress when it comes to recurring revenue in recent years, but I don't hear you emphasizing that too much today, perhaps I'm mistaking. But how should we think about the trajectory in terms of recurring revenue going forward? Or do you feel like this is a sufficient level?

Henning Sandfort

Executives
#37

Yes, it's a good question. I mean, first of all, for us, our intent is not only to sell a one-off sensor, but to accompany our customers throughout the life cycle with software, with services. And in many ways, you deliver that value with the recurring business. But looking at all the product launches that we have on the sensor side, we don't optimize singularly on just that KPI of recurring revenue. It will be inherent, but looking at the innovation cycles, I would not expect the trajectory to grow as it did in the recent years, but it will continue to be a very instrumental part of how we also differentiate in the marketplace.

Andreas Renulf

Executives
#38

Yes. I can just add to that, that I think recurring revenue, I think there was a time in the past when we maybe paid a little bit too much attention to that because I think it's a good KPI to keep track on. But in the type of business where we are, where we offer complete solutions to solve the application issues of the customer, you have to look at the totality. And we are not intending to go down in recurring revenue, but it's maybe not the most important KPI for the future.

Andre Kukhnin

Analysts
#39

It's Andre from UBS again. I've got the same question for both of you. You both businesses are launching a lot of new products that offer more functionality, customer productivity improvement. How do you monetize that? Is that through a higher ASP of those products? Do you intend to gain share with them? And also, I guess, do they come with higher gross margin than what you report for your individual divisions, thinking about TS20 and MAESTRO, things like this?

Henning Sandfort

Executives
#40

Yes, it's actually both. On the one hand side, we position these products with higher value than predecessor as you can also experience in the demo. So that allows us to also reach a different price point in the market and also at stronger gross profit. On the other hand side, similar to the question that we just answered, there's also opportunities to add digital services throughout the life cycle. For instance, with the cloud connectivity that we provide, which adds revenue streams on top of the pure sensor sale. So yes, it does, and this is also what I have shared in terms of margin progression, the next-generation offerings will drive also margin progression.

Andreas Renulf

Executives
#41

Yes. I think you can look at it in a way that when you are the market leader, you have to continue to innovate to stay the market leader. And part of what we are doing in terms of new platform comes to market is that. Of course, when we do that, we should always make sure that we get a lower cost. And the price, to me, it's basically a reflection of the value that this gives to the customer. So clearly, when we are innovating, we are offering a higher value to the customer so the price tag should be higher. Have we always been great at especially keeping the cost at the right level when you can innovate all these new things? Maybe not always. But that is one of the things that we put a little bit more discipline in now to make sure that we get to the right cost improvement, and we make sure that we have the value, which should be seen in pricing.

Henning Sandfort

Executives
#42

And maybe to add to that, for Geosystems is also decided that we look more, as I shared into midrange markets, which is not about taking the same product and just price it lower to fight, but it's about addressing a different demand in the market with a different product concept that, again, is competitive in that specific segment because we cannot just elevate the value curve upwards, we also need to acknowledge that there's different dynamics in the market, different sources of growth, which we need to tap into more.

Andre Kukhnin

Analysts
#43

And if I may, just one more on Geosystems specifically. You mentioned acquisitions. How is the pipeline? Are you ready to make deals already this year?

Henning Sandfort

Executives
#44

Short answer would be yes, the pipeline is good. We look into targets as we speak. And it follows basically the financial guardrails of what the group has shared earlier. So mostly, it will be bolt-on acquisitions in our core segments with the focus that I also shared.

Tom Hull

Executives
#45

So we've got time for one more, just at the front from Mikael here.

Mikael Laséen

Analysts
#46

Mikael Laséen for DNB Carnegie. I have a question for MI. And I was curious about the services part of the business. If you can talk a bit more about that, how you operate, how that part is growing and revenue model, the attach rate and so on. So I mean, the visibility you have in that part of the business.

Andreas Renulf

Executives
#47

Yes. So if we take it division by division, this could take an hour, but we'll do it in 30 seconds. If you take stationary metrology, that's what we have, roughly 1/3 being on the aftermarket. It's, of course, extremely important that this is used for production and for checking the measurements while you're producing. So this is quite critical for many of our customers. And as the name says, stationary means you cannot actually send it in. So we have to get out there. So we are selling different types of maintenance agreements with different levels. And I would say that the attach rate is very, very high on that. We are getting that up also in Southeast Asia and China now. That has been a little bit of an issue in the past, but we are getting that up now. This is an area where we are growing nicely, especially in the U.S., and we are starting to see a little bit more of growth also in Europe. If we talk about the portable side, it is portable. So that means you can actually send it into us. So there, we have calibration centers that calibrate the equipment for the customer. So there is much less of us being out at the customer side. And of course, with that, we can optimize that pretty well. And then you have the computer-aided manufacturing, which is more of a software model there. So very quickly, that's -- but it's a quite high attach rate, and it's one of those KPIs we really pay attention to them.

Tom Hull

Executives
#48

Okay. Fantastic. Now we're going to hand over to Gordon, who's going to talk you through the Autonomous Solutions business area.

Gordon Dale

Executives
#49

Hello. My name is Gordon Dale, and I'm the President of Autonomous Solutions business area. So Autonomous Solutions is the global leader in precise positioning, operational intelligence and autonomy solutions. I'd like to start my presentation with a short reflection on why autonomy is so important to me. I joined Hexagon in 2008 through the NovAtel division after beginning my career in telecommunications. But my personal autonomy journey started a few years earlier. When I was living in Europe in 2004, my wife and I fell in love with GPS technology. The shift from paper maps to reliable satellite-based navigation was truly astonishing. No longer did one of us have to drive through the new streets of Paris looking for street signs and the other one's in the passenger side with a map on their lap trying to help navigate usually long after we missed our turn. My wife and I joked that, that first GPS system probably saved our marriage. So why do I work at Hexagon? Autonomous technologies such as GPS positioning are truly making the world a safer place, while improving productivity in vital industries, addressing critical labor shortages while solving the sustainability challenges of our planet. And I find this work incredibly meaningful, and I'm really excited to share with you today the autonomy journey that we are on. Here's the outline of what I will cover today. First, I'll provide you with an overview of the Autonomous Solutions business area so that you can understand our scope and what mission-critical customer problems we're solving. Next, I'll walk you through our value propositions, what truly differentiates us from the competition, why our technology, our team and our financial model create durable advantages. Then I'll explain our growth strategies and how we will continue our success in each of our divisions. And then I will review our targets. As you can see on the summary chart, Autonomous Solutions is a high-growth, high-margin business, providing mission-critical autonomy platforms and components across a wide variety of industries. Our addressable markets are significant in size with attractive growth rates. In 2025, we delivered almost EUR 700 million of revenue at 26% EBITAC. Coupled with a 5-year CAGR of more than 26%, we clearly demonstrate the capital-efficient growth profile expected from top-tier technology businesses. Mining, aerospace and defense and agriculture are our largest verticals, and the Americas is our largest region, followed by APAC and then EMEA. As you can see, we are structured into 6 divisions with clear accountability. We had already organized ourselves this way, so the transition to the Hexagon way was pretty straightforward for my business area. So looking at mining provides OEM-agnostic solutions across workflows of the entire mining value stream. Septentrio provides the industry's best GNSS standard positioning products. NovAtel provides customized positioning for specific customer problems. Agriculture provides centimeter-level positioning of the highest quality and reliability tailored for agricultural applications. Aerospace and defense provides assured, resilient positioning in very difficult environments. And core autonomy is focused on large, transformative autonomous haulage applications. Now let's look at our historical financial performance. We provide significant value to our customers, and that's why we have progressed significantly since the last Capital Markets Day, delivering double-digit revenue growth while maintaining stable margins. As you can see, the organic growth was exceptionally high in the 2023 time line with 22%. This was driven by large defense program sales as well as strong mining and agriculture sales. All cylinders are firing that year. Organic growth in 2024 declined as it was impacted by the overall ag global recession plus some really tough comparables for mining and defense. 2025 saw strong growth in defense and good performance from mining, giving us a 14% overall organic revenue growth for the year. Recurring revenue and gross margins remained stable over this time period. As you can see in this diagram, our business is anchored in 3 pillars: positioning and perception; operational intelligence; and vehicle autonomy. Together, they form a resilient, synergistic portfolio that addresses some of the most challenging operational needs in the world. I'm going to use these 3 pillars as guideposts as we go through the presentation. One of the most important parts of my role is engaging directly with customers to understand the real-world problems that they're facing and where our technology provides irreplaceable value. For example, in mining, our customer, Ma'aden has emphasized the critical need to protect employees working in high-risk environments. Their commitment to fully deploying our safety systems reflects both the severity of the challenges they face plus the trust they place in our technology. And when I met with a major mining customer in Western Australia, I saw firsthand the operational challenges they face in the Pilbara. Getting truck drivers to these remote locations is extremely difficult, and the average age of a haul truck operator in Australia is approaching 60. Our Ukrainian customers deploying our precision positioning products describe an incredibly challenging environment, characterized by interference and jamming. In these conditions, resilience isn't a feature, it's a lifeline. This diagram shows a simplified model for any autonomous system and the key customer problems that we solve. It also provides you with a high-level understanding of the components, products and solutions we provide to solve our customers' toughest challenges. Positioning is a foundation of all autonomous systems. Positioning answers the customer's question, where am I? And in complex difficult environments, that's not always an easy question to answer. And after you know where you are, you must understand what's around you. That is called perception or spatial intelligence. The vehicle autonomy section has 3 components. Autonomy software is the brain that tells the machine where to go. And since there's no human, the machine control component physically drive the vehicle. Safety is a foundational element of autonomy. Some studies have suggested that an autonomous vehicle needs to be 10x safer than a manually driven vehicle for society to accept it. These 3 elements address the customer problem. How do I operate autonomously and safely? And finally, autonomous systems operate with multiple machines, and there needs to be site orchestration, fleet management systems that optimize the overall operation of the customer's application. This is an example of operational intelligence. I'm going to step through now how our solutions deliver each element, starting with the core foundation of positioning. As you might know, much of what we do is GNSS-based positioning. But note that the terms GNSS and GPS are often used interchangeably. But GPS refers to the U.S.-based constellation, whereas GNSS refers to using all 4 global constellations plus various regional systems. Let me quickly explain at a high level how this works. The satellites orbit above us at 20,000 kilometers going 14,000 kilometers an hour. If you can receive information from 4 satellites, you can calculate where you are anywhere on the planet. And many companies can do basic GNSS positioning now when the conditions are easy and you'll need a few meters of accuracy, but our customers need greater accuracy and face much more challenging conditions. As these GNSS radio signals travel from space to earth, they can be distorted by the ionosphere. Think Northern Lights or solar flares or Aurora Borealis. To provide centimeter-level positioning, we use a global network of reference stations to provide subscription-based correction services to mitigate these distortions. It's similar to the example that Henning gave on Morocco. It's the same principle there that we're using. Our technology can also protect against intentional and unintentional jamming. The satellites broadcast these signals with the power of only a light bulb. So you can as you imagine, when they complete their 20,000-kilometer journey, it's pretty faint. So they can easily be impacted by radio interference, and that's also called jamming. And let's look at the next chart why anti-jamming is such a competitive advantage for us. Hopefully, some of you saw this video at the display at the back of the room. But let's imagine there was a 1-kilowatt jammer like the one shown on the picture on the left that somebody had located at the tower of London. If it was turned on, it would block the operation of all GPS systems operating within a 300-kilometer radius. No navigation, no positioning, no timing possible in that region. If you are using our competitors' products, the GPS-denied region shrinks down to 2,000 meters, which is still much of London. But if you use our anti-jamming technologies, that GPS-denied region shrinks down to an amazingly small region, just the tower of London grounds themselves, 100-meter radius. I'd like to explain our next positioning-related competitive advantage, sensor fusion. GNSS provides absolute positioning, exactly where you are on the planet. But everyone has experienced if you're in a difficult environment like a city downtown, you can easily get false readings or even no readings at all as the signals are blocked by the buildings. Inertial navigation systems are an alternate positioning technology that provides relative positioning based on accelerometers and gyroscopes. INS systems unfortunately drift over time. So the position accuracy degrades and solutions diverge from the true path. Combining these 2 technologies is called sensor fusion. You still get the absolute positioning of GPS, but when you have bad GNSS coverage, the INS solution bridges the gap, providing continuous operation. The underlying technology of integrating different positioning sensors into one overall solution is actually very sophisticated, and that's one of our major competitive advantages. The spectrum of positioning challenges is illustrated on this diagram and provides a clear view of where real value and real differentiation are created. Starting on the left, Environment 1 is OpenSky, where GEOSAT's performance is consistent and predictable. This is the part of the market that has largely become commoditized. Environments 2 and 3 require significantly more sophistication. This is where our competitive advantage of sensor fusion becomes essential. Environment 4 introduces another level of complexity, intentional interference, like the jammer we imagined down at the Tower of London. What began as a challenge in the defense sector, jamming has now become increasingly common in civilian markets as well. Environment 5 represents the most challenging environment, situations with no GNSS availability at all, such as an underground mine. In these cases, alternate sensors and proprietary techniques must be used to maintain reliable positioning. The highest value opportunities sit firmly on the right side of this chart, and that's where we play. We're leading in the hardest part of the market, mission-critical applications where our technology advantage directly converts into market share, recurring revenue and superior margins. Many of you have probably heard the expression, it's not rocket science. Well, in our business area, it is. Blue Origin successfully landed the first stage booster of its New Glenn rocket for the first time in November 2025. Hexagon GNSS receivers and antennas are a key part of the navigation and autonomy stack on this incredibly demanding environment. There's another example of when it has to be right, it has to be Hexagon. Our products support every critical phase of operation, allowing for safe booster recovery. This allows for 25x reuse, cutting the booster cost by launch by an astonishing 96%. Now let's shift to the second pillar, operational intelligence using mining as an example. You can see in the bottom of the chart all the high-level steps in the mining value stream, which all obviously operate in the real world. Hexagon has the most comprehensive set of OEM-agnostic products and solutions in the industry, and we truly understand our customers' workflows. This gives us an end-to-end digital nervous system that provides context and insights that we can use in the digital world to improve our customers' experience. As mining customers move toward integrated data and analytics platforms, our technology stack becomes a major competitive advantage. For example, the safety data will feed the fleet data. Fleet data feeds planning and analytics and analytics powers automation. This creates a powerful data flywheel. More sensors give you more operational insights, which leads to more automation, which increases value. Every additional module a customer deploys increases the value of the next one. I'd like to highlight an example of how operational intelligence comes to life in our mining safety portfolio. As you can see, we have 3 main product lines: operator alertness; collision avoidance; and vehicle intervention. Our operator alert systems that monitor driver fatigue are widely deployed and industry-leading. For example, our customer, MMG, reported an 81% reduction in severe fatigue events after they deployed the system at their mine in Tasmania. And our collision avoidance are deployed in over 50 countries. We have more than 65,000 systems protecting over 200 mines in the world. The video I'm going to show will demonstrate the value from the world's first integration of the operator alert system with the collision avoidance systems. And it really shows the effect of this data flywheel. First, you can see a typical haul truck that we provide safety solutions for. Inside the cab, you can see the display for the collision avoidance system, the operator monitoring camera and the front-facing camera. We can see the value of integrating these 2 systems together by showing the front camera synchronized with the cabin camera when there's a fatigue event. The vehicle almost veers off the road when the operator starts falling asleep. Fortunately, our alert systems vibrate the seat and set off alarms so the driver was able to recover and avoid a very dangerous accident. Combining operator alert systems and collision avoidance systems provides more context to collision alarms by recording operator alertness at the time of the alarm. So these are examples of driver assist functionality. We can move further up the autonomy stack as well by doing vehicle intervention systems that automatically stop the vehicle if there is a risk of a collision. In this case, we're not just warning drivers, we're taking control to save lives. So I think the global trend is unmistakable. Industries across the world are accelerating towards higher level of autonomy to boost productivity, improve safety and offset chronic labor shortages, especially in remote and hazardous environments. This chart shows autonomous use cases in the various industry verticals that we serve. Examples include ensuring autonomous machines operate safely and efficiently in mining. Leader follower applications in defense, where convoys have one driver and multiple vehicles follow this vehicle autonomously. Agriculture, where fully autonomous tractors are being developed to complete all activities related to planting, spraying and harvesting. Autonomous Solutions is positioned to lead this shift by building profitable, scalable solutions for autonomous operations. These capabilities extend far beyond any single application. They pave the way for autonomy across multiple industries and machine types. But autonomy is not a single leap. It's a journey. Importantly, customers don't have to wait for full autonomy to realize value. Every step along the way can be deployed today, retrofitted onto existing fleets and monetize as customers advance at their own pace. The 5-level model -- autonomy model you see here is familiar from the automotive sector, but it's now playing out across mining, agriculture and other industries. Level 1 assistance technologies like lane keeping and automotive are already mainstream. But in complex industrial environments, higher levels of autonomy depend on our first pillar, precision positioning and resilient perception. Moving large heavy machines safely, whether it's a haul truck, a road train or a tractor is impossible without high integrity positioning. In mining, our portfolio spans from geological modeling to fleet optimization to fully autonomous haulage, the widest stack in the sector. In agriculture, customers are progressing from GNSS-based guidance to vision navigation and ultimately towards fully autonomous tractors. And across every major vertical, our core technologies sit at the foundation, enabling each step toward autonomy while strengthening customer adoption. Autonomous road trains for moving iron ore more than 100 kilometers from pit to port is a marquee example of our unmatched capabilities to bring autonomy to complex and dynamic environments. The positioning challenges are immense. The vehicles pass each other at 80 kilometers per hour with only a couple of meters to spare. Turning the steering wheel 1 inch on these vehicles will swing the third trailer out 1 meter. The trucks have to travel through tunnels and overpasses, losing connection with GNSS. You can see on the diagram, the significant number of on-vehicle autonomy and safety components that must be deployed to manage a vehicle of this size and complex dynamics. This is our third pillar of focus, vehicle autonomy. Once deployed, the system becomes indispensable, generating sticky and predictable onetime and recurring revenue. We have the unique ability to bring all these pieces together. Very few companies could even attempt this. I'm summarizing for you our growth strategy on this chart. We are addressing the most challenging problems that customers must solve in their autonomy journey. And this journey is accelerated by our macro forces and megatrends. And we target our investments in the most attractive markets to optimize our overall growth. And our divisions are accountable for maintaining and expanding their core competencies to provide clear competitive differentiation and drive their own growth. So looking at the megatrends across all the markets we serve, the global pressures are the same: Acute labor shortages, accelerating sustainability demands and increased operational complexity, needing more precision. In mining, 70% of mining leaders report that finding labor is preventing them from hitting their production targets. It's not just finding workers, it's finding skilled workers. Our operator assist and AI-enabled drilling automation solutions help close that skill set gap immediately. And labor shortages are not restricted to mining. Agriculture faces similar constraints. According to the 2024 Voice of the Farmer survey, farmers are unable to hire 21% of the labor that they need. Sustainability is the second megatrend that is making our customers' problems even harder to solve. Our advanced positioning and guidance technologies in agriculture directly address this challenge through higher productivity, reduced chemical use and improved sustainability. At the same time, operational environments are becoming more complex. For example, I remember back in 2011 when we launched our first GPS anti-jamming product, interference and jamming and spoofing events were actually quite rare. But you fast forward to 2026, and today, pilots -- commercial pilots are reporting over 1,000 jamming and spoofing attempts every single day. It's amazing. But this is our advantage. We apply our technical know-how and horizontal platforms across multiple industries, generating data that can be used to further improve our solutions. Hexagon's culture of innovation, particularly in autonomy and resilient positioning, ensures we remain ahead of the curve as the world becomes more complex. Looking at the markets now. Our overall total addressable market is EUR 13 billion and the serviceable addressable market is EUR 6 billion, growing by 8% to 10% over the next 5 years. In positioning, we focus on the high accuracy assured GNSS, which is a EUR 2 billion serviceable market with 10% growth. We're not exposed to commoditized standard GNSS. Our growth driver is the need for resiliency, what we call Assured PNT. Increased defense spending, more requirements for anti-jamming technologies and increasing adoption of UAVs and drones will fuel the growth of the precision positioning segment. The mining serviceable market is EUR 3.5 billion, growing at 8%. Hexagon differentiates as the only player offering a full end-to-end digital mining stack across mixed fleets. Mining growth drivers will include safety, analytics and underground. Fully autonomous industrial systems like road trains is a smaller market today, but is expected to grow more quickly. I'd like to summarize for you now our growth strategies for each division. For positioning, combining Septentrio's optimal GNSS platforms, the best size, weight and power with NovAtel's sensor fusion expertise and market customization expertise will create an incredible competitive moat. We will integrate all this combined expertise into our next-generation positioning platform. For aerospace and defense, I spoke earlier about our industry-leading anti-jamming products. But we also have a strong footprint in many areas of aerospace as well, as you saw with the Blue Origin case study. Obviously, our defense market is structurally protected from many of our traditional low-cost competitors. We will grow the Aerospace and Defense division by continued investment in our leading anti-jamming products and technologies, including releasing more value-based products to expand from our high-end market dominance, the good, better, best strategy that Andreas talked about. Our last acquisition Inertial Sense will enable -- our latest acquisition in Inertial Sense will enable increased growth in the higher volume segments of this market. Moving to agriculture now. Everyone in this room understands the agriculture industry has been in a global recession. We're also seeing some OEMs verticalizing this positioning technology and increased price pressure from Chinese suppliers. However, our superior quality and performance has enabled us to maintain our large overall footprint. But in response to these industry dynamics, we will leverage our next-generation products to provide optimized solutions to protect our margin. In addition, we will develop camera-based positioning systems for Level 3, 4 autonomous applications in agriculture such as row guidance in vineyards and orchards where GNSS-only positioning is not sufficient. One major competitive advantage we have in our largest division mining is that we have the most extensive OEM-agnostic suite of solutions across all workflows in the mining value stream. As we saw earlier in the presentation, our industry-leading safety portfolio and the more stringent industry safety regulations that are coming up around the world, plus our large installed base, will enable us to continue growing this portfolio. The data flywheel I described earlier is an extremely exciting growth opportunity. Hexagon is uniquely positioned to leverage all available data in the mine to improve our customers' productivity and NPV. Finally, in core autonomy, the value creation curve reflects the transition from investment to scale. Road train milestones in 2026 build continued credibility and unlock follow-on sites. So as you can see, we are targeting 10% to 12% organic growth per year, supported by a mix of volume expansion, deeper penetration in our core markets and continued growth in the high-margin software and services that help us offset any inflationary pressures. At the same time, we're targeting to improve our EBITAC to the range of 27% to 30%, driven by our portfolio modernization, the scale benefits we receive from our platform strategy, our disciplined cost management and our AI-enabled operations. This combination of divisional accountability, platform leverage and disciplined capital allocation is what will enable us to deliver a durable high-margin growth profile. I hope that you now more clearly understand the Autonomous Solutions business area scope, what makes us unique and our growth strategies. The value creation plan for Autonomous Solutions can be summarized as follows: First, we choose to operate in large, attractive markets with strong structural tailwinds. Second, we solve our customers' mission-critical problems. We help them overcome the real challenges they face with productivity, access to labor, safety and sustainability. Third, we are a technical leader with mission-critical reliability, deep domain expertise, proven M&A integration capability and the uniquely OEM architecture that customers can trust across mixed fleets and harsh environments. These elements create durable, defensible moats. Finally, our operating governance ensures that each division is accountable and successful and that we allocate our capital in the most optimal fashion to continue our long-term growth profile. This combination, unmatched technical depth and direct alignment with high-value customer pain points, gives us a clear multi-engine growth path to well beyond $1 billion in revenue. Thank you very much. Now I'll turn it over to my fellow Canadian, Arnaud.

Arnaud Robert

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Thank you very much. All right. Moving on to Robotics. Thank you for the introduction. Good morning, Andreas. Give me a bit of background on myself. I have a PhD in Computer Science did a postdoc in neural networks before it was called AI. It used to be called neural networks. Then I had a chance to work for Microsoft in technology, and then I did some big product launches for NIKE and Disney. Then I built and scaled businesses for Viking and Sanofi. And I have the opportunity for the last 15 months to join Hexagon Robotics, where I can do all 3: technology, product and business. To start off, and if we really wanted to save time, we could stop at that slide, Tom, if you really wanted to. But what are the key takeaways? First, humanoids is a massive market. And very importantly, the industry segment will be the largest in the next few years, 5 to 7 years. Two, Hexagon is uniquely positioned to capture its fair market share. Why? Very simple. Access to customers. You've seen all the customers we have across different industries. We understand their pain points. We understand how they're moving from automation to autonomy. Two, I think we have unique expertise in sensors, sensor fusion that Gordon just mentioned, but also spatial intelligence. And three, which you'll see is the theme of -- the topic of the day, we have a multipurpose autonomous humanoid. A lot of humanoids out there are actually teleoperated. Ours is autonomous and ours is multipurpose and doesn't do just manipulation, it can do many other things that you'll discover in the next few minutes. So far, so good. On a 4:00, we're good. Good energy. Excellent. Agenda, we'll unpack what we just talked about. Context, always good to see the size of the market and how we're looking at it. Two, AEON, our first product that [ Sarah ] and [ Nick ] in the back were nice to give demos to. You could go back if you missed it. And then how do we commercialize this product. We talked about this automation to autonomy all day, but I want to give you the Robotics lens of what that means. On the left side, all manual. Then we had fixed task, fixed geography. Then we move to AMRs, unique task, but now we can be mobile. And now we're moving to humanoids, multiple tasks, mobile. And that's going to be very critical that transition is critical for many different industries, manufacturing, logistics, automotive, aerospace and so on. Strong history of Robotics at Hexagon. And why do we show this slide is that we're not starting from scratch in robotics. And in addition to all the right elements that you just talked about in the last few hours, actually, especially in Gordon and the autonomy and the sensor fusion and everything else, we also know what it means to deploy robots in production at customers. You all have heard that statistics. 50% of those solutions is a robot, and 50% of the solution is integration within workflows, within different systems and so on and so on. We understand that complexity. I'm still doing this slide, but I'm hoping it's the last time I have to do it. Why humanoids and not why other types of robots? Well, 3 things. We talked about workforce shortage, but especially for skilled workers, and that is very important when you think about humanoids. Two, all industries are going to last mile automation, a lot of automation in the factory, but still you have people taking one part and then feeding it into the next factory line as an example. And then three, we're talking more and more, especially in automotive, a little bit in aerospace, mostly automotive and manufacturing, lights out factories, right? They just operate themselves. But to do that, you need other form of robots. Why is the form factor of the humanoid? First, those factories are built by humans for humans. And therefore, if you want to introduce a robot that can roam around, the human form factor is the most logical one. Second one, and that to me is the most interesting thing. If you look at physical AI and you look at where the innovation is going, it's really 2 areas, world robotic models. So basically think of ChatGPT in the world of robotics. But the second thing is imitation learning. So just think back of the history of robotics, it started with all programmed. You have to program every single edge case possible. And now we leapfrog that completely, and we're basically teaching AEON how to do a new task by just showing how to do the task. We can do it by teleoperation. We can do it by videos. We can do it by synthetic data, but literally, there's 0 line of code needed. The robot just learns by doing. If that's the premise, then the student and the teacher need to have the same form factor to optimize effectively the transition of the knowledge. If you don't have that, then you need to have very complicated systems that move from what we do to what the robot would be doing. Then the last thing is that if you think of a humanoid as a singular entity, that's great. But if you look at it in the factory of the future, where there's hundreds of them, it's effectively a fleet. And so each one of them can do just one task. If it does that, it's not a very good ROI. It has multiple tasks. And again, how do we evolve to be humans that we have is because we can actually do many different things with the way we are shaped, if you want. And when you think of a fleet, that's extremely important. Why now? One, great progress on the actuators. So these are the motors of the humanoid effectively used in the last 2, 3 years, we've probably made more progress than the previous 15. So the motors that actually feeding those humans are much more powerful. Two, way more edge computing than we ever had. Think of the NVIDIA Thor platform at the edge, for example, it's basically about 1,000 more times powerful than what we had 2 or 3 years ago. Just imagine what that means in terms of AI capabilities, in terms of reading, et cetera, et cetera. And the last one is just physical AI in general, whether it's training, whether it's world models we just talked about or any other manifestation of AI in the physical world. As you've all seen, I'm sure through the press, it's evolving at an incredible speed. So those 3 combined, great case for humanoids. Now going to what's the TAM of humanoids. So this chart is from an external source. You've seen many different charts. I would encourage you to do a couple of things. One, ignore the numbers a little bit other than they're big. And every projection we have seen is big numbers. That's comforting for us. Two, very important points. When you look at in-home versus industry, in the next few years, all the money in humanoids is in the industry sector, not in the home. And lastly, you will see that 2030 is kind of this inflection point. So back to Anders' comment this morning of it won't be tomorrow. It's actually also based on market data. That's the inflection point. Some people could argue it's 2029. People can argue it's early 2031. It doesn't matter, that's the inflection point. So when we look at this and I had many conversations with Anders and the Board, we do not want to miss that opportunity. And that's why we're doing Hexagon Robotics. Our target markets, given the slides you've just seen, pretty logical. We're going after the industry, one, because of the -- in heritage of Hexagon, of course, but also just because of what the market and where the market is. In Phase 1, which is the current phase, we focus mostly on automotive, aerospace, transportation -- sorry, logistics and manufacturing. That's where the shortage of skilled workers is the highest, and that's where the humanoid can be deployed the easiest way, if you want. Then we move to construction, energy and semiconductors, where the environments are a bit more complex to deal with. And then eventually, we move to hospitality. We think it's a very, very interesting market actually, but not ready. It's not ready for human yet. And no plans for consumer, which is already a big differentiating factor with a lot of the companies you hear about on the outside. So the good thing is there's a market. Now the question is, do we have a product? We'd certainly like to believe so. And so AEON that you see in the back, you see the specifications that you've probably seen from others, height, the weight of an average human actually. Degrees of freedom, 34, so a lot of flexibility in terms of movement. Sensors, 16, and that you will see it come back in the presentation. That's a massive differentiating factor. Most other humanoids even for the industry, typically have between 5 and 7 sensors. Why is 16 important? Because with 16 sensors, as Gordon mentioned, from sensor fusion perspective, not only we have more precision, we have spatial intelligence and awareness, which means AEON in real time knows what is around him or it, I should say, I was told, around it. Why is that important? When you do a lab demo, that important. When you do YouTube video, not really important. When you deploy the production, you need the humanoid to be very conscious of its environment. Somebody is walking by, the machine has moved, does that [ theater ] and so on. So that's very important that we have those sensors. Speed, we have wheels, as you've probably seen. So we get some quite good speed. If you're wondering what 2.5 meter per second is, most of the average person jogging quite nicely. So it's quite fast. Why is that important? When you move a part from one side of a factory all the way to the other side of the factory, if the distance that you have to cover is 3 or 4, 5 minutes, you're basically not gaining anything from a productivity perspective. If it's 12, 15 seconds, absolutely is. Batteries, you'll see a video a bit later. So we have 3 hours of battery. But more importantly, we have a battery cell swap. So we taught AEON through imitation learning actually, so showing how to do it, we taught it how to change its own battery. We have 2 batteries, so we can do a hot swap. That's why you see the auto-swap hot swap, which means it's continuous in operations effectively other than the 23 seconds precisely that it takes to change the battery. Arm payload at 10 kilograms, pretty standard in the industry, and we have the same. Our unique selling proposition is 5 dimensions. The first one, as I mentioned, super important and very grateful for the Hexagon connection because we have access to about 40,000 customers. We understand their needs. We understand where they're headed. We understand their pain points. That's a unique thing that we can always call the right customer at the right level to understand their appetite and need for humanoids. The second one is multipurpose. We'll dive into that a bit later. But as I mentioned, a lot of the robots are doing pick and place or moving boxes. We think that's interesting. That's clearly a demand for it. But if you can add inspection and reality capture with onboard sensors, meaning no other equipment needed, then the value of the humanoid, the ROI of the humanoid goes up quite significantly for a customer. The sensor suite, we talked about it quite a bit, spatial intelligence, but autonomy is also due to those sensors. In the production environment, if you don't have those sensors, you cannot be autonomous. You have to be hardwired. So very, very important. And we believe -- well, not a belief, it's a fact that there will be some safety certification for humanoids, just like they are for arm robots and there are for AMRs. Sensors become a critical path to that. If you look at AMRs, there's a number of onboard sensors dedicated to safety, pure safety, detection of object, detection of people, et cetera, et cetera. We have that built in already. So when those specification specs come in, we'll turn on the sensors and we'll turn on the software, obviously, but it will be safety ready, if you want. A few design elements that are quite unique to the wheels we mentioned, the battery we mentioned. The last one I want to spend 2 minutes or maybe 30 seconds on, which is the end effectors. So this is a fancy way to say the hand of the robot. A lot of our competitors are spending quite a bit of R&D dollars finding the perfect hand, the most dexterous hands with sensors and so on and so on. Having talked to myself about 50 customers and the team even more than that, the interesting piece is actually for 99% of the use cases, you don't need a hand. You need a clamp, you need a gripper, you need some other form of an effectors. So we decided very early on instead of investing a lot in hands, we'll actually have a modular end effector. Whatever the best an effector is for the job is what the one AEON will have. Also as a side note, which is interesting in that particular context, best hand in the market 2 years ago, [ $20,000 ] each. So for robots, [ $40,000 ] just for 2 hands. You fast forward to today, a hand that is roughly twice better, [ $2,000 ]. And we're seeing that the project by the end of the year, it will be probably [ $1,000 ]. So probably a good thing, Anders, we didn't invest too much in the hands from a CapEx perspective, but it shows you how quickly that thing -- that space is evolving. And so we're making very, very strict decision on what do we build, what do we buy and so on and so on. And the last thing is data and AI. You've seen it throughout the day. Same for Robotics, I would say even more so because the level of data we have is truly multimodal. So we have sounds, we have videos, we have images and so on and so on, and we need to capture all this in one aspect. That's also what we need to train the robot, better data, better training, better robots doing tasks. We talked about multipurpose, and I want to show you concrete examples. On the left side is what we do with Schaeffler. You can see the precision, if you want, of movement and manipulation. And the second one is what we do with Pilatus. We're doing actually onboard inspection of fuselage parts. If you're not that familiar with the aviation industry, they have the highest standards, right, in terms of quality, and we can do it with onboard sensors. Reality capture, the video was supposed to loop, it didn't, but hopefully, you saw it a little bit. We basically can capture actually with the sensors we have, the entire environment, and we can create a mid-resolution digital twin just from onboard sensors, super useful in many different cases where you need just the reality capture and the digital twin to be basically fed with updates on a regular basis. You just have AEON roam the factory and you're done. So quite powerful. And then what we showed with BMW at the end of February is AEON actually with an AS1 scanner. Thank you, where we actually do very high-resolution scan of the car. We can do it obviously when it's being built. But the example we showed is what was finished, and we're basically measuring the space between the door and the frame, if you want, the frame of the door and the frame of the car, I would say, with extremely high precision. Why this is interesting is that now AEON can also, as you remember, the end effectors can be modulars. One of those could be actually super high-resolution scanner. And now suddenly, AEON goes from inspection at a certain resolution to inspection at 50 micron, if I'm not mistaken. The video of the -- one of my favorite videos, by the way, of AEON. So this was all done through training mutation learning. We showed AEON this is how you change your battery. We did about 30 times, and then we have a training algorithm and then AEON can train itself and effectively do the task. So we say 25 seconds. If you put your stop watch out, it was actually 23, but very, very good, obviously. And then what we do is we have an intelligent charging station. So the battery swapping is not just to recharge a battery. And as you can imagine, in the production environment, the robot has to be updated. There will be firmware updates, software updates and so on and so on. So we use actually the battery station as also our inlet towards updating AEON. Again, if you look at a production environment, that's quite important because the WiFi is a bit unstable. And so if we can push it to the base station, then we have a short-range communication. One of the most interesting charts, I think, of this presentation perhaps is how do we combine robotics, AI and what we call the data flywheel. First, we need a lot of data to train the robot, synthetic data, video data, simulation data and so on and so on. Most people are doing this in the industry. We think we have a very good understanding, in particular, simulation and synthetic data, thanks to our colleagues in Hexagon. But this is the foundation. If you don't have this, you basically don't have a robot. The second thing is the training. So classical training, reinforcement learning, imitation learning, word models, VLAs, visual language action models as many acronyms as engineers can invent. So this is a training aspect of the robot. You take the data, you train the robots, quite logical. We think there, we have actually really good partnerships with NVIDIA and others that help us accelerate our training. Then you go into Robotics. So it's nice to train it, but you need to put to Robotics and then you need to have a brain, it has a perception, it has sensors and also it has to understand motion. So far, so good. Most other companies do this. We think we do quite better in some areas, but most companies do this. And then the task. So basically the robot doing a task, which is all about planning and control. Now what is the data flywheel is that this is linear, but the power is if you can bring data back, of course, when you're doing the task. This is where I like you pay a bit of attention on the color of that line that will change in a second. At the moment, everybody in the industry, what are they feeding back? They're feeding back robotic data, the state of the actuator, the angle, the force, the torque, et cetera, all the physical aspects of the robot. Quite helpful to understand how it did the work. Well, what happened, no one captures other than our robots. That's where you'll see it move to blue. Because of all the sensors, not only we capture what the robot is doing physically, we capture the environment. So if there was a task and the robot for some reason, failed the task. The robotic data only will not tell you why the tasks failed other than a hardware failure. But if you had all the perception, all the sensors, maybe the object changed. Maybe the object was not there. Maybe a human passed by and there was a stoppage. So this is all the data we can feed back. And then, of course, we had the flywheel because better data means better training, better tasking and so on and so on and so on. So this is for us a very important competitive advantage that again, we can capture the data in real time of the human minute doing the task and feed that back to the training, and that's very unique. So we can see a few examples of AI, how we deploy AI. So the first one is simulation and reinforcement learning. And this one, I always have a good story for this one. So this is training basically AEON to go up the stairs, right? He has wheels, so it was not intuitive. So I said, well, let's teach AEON how to do go up the stairs. You will see it does many different configurations. We have -- if you have to count them, you can trust me, there's 1,024 AEONs at the same time in the simulator through different things. What is very powerful about this methodology, and again, because of the inheritage of Hexagon, we know what it means to simulate very complicated and complex systems, is that all the engineers were actually 100% convinced that the best way to go up the stairs was to log the wheel and effectively just go up the stairs just like in essence, what a humanoid would be doing. We relaxed some of the rules in the simulation and we said, well, let's not log the wheel and we see what happens. It turns out that for AEON or any wheel-based humanoid, the best way to up the stairs is actually to use the inertia of the movement and have the wheel actually turn so that when you go up, it's much, much easier actually. Why I'm giving you this example simply because in simulation, we learned about solutions that were not intuitive, and that's extremely powerful when you're trying to resolve tasks. The second one -- the second video is a bit quick -- is what you see actually in the back. It's very similar to what you see in the back. But you will see AEON actually doing inspection. And you will see if you go pretty quick, there's 2 boxes, the green box and the red box. The green box is when AEON sees what the part is and the red box is basically transposing that image to the real environment and seeing how does it need to inspect. Other words, what's happening? AEON sees the object, goes to the object, automatically and in real time, calculates what's the right trajectory to inspect the object. And if you move the object around, it will just adjust in real time. Quite powerful from a perception standpoint. And the last one is imitation learning, which is what I mentioned in the beginning. What you'll see is the example. Pay attention a little bit that there's a silver piece and a green-ish piece, if you want. And so just through imitation learning, what we did, obviously, is the right hand takes the silver on the right side, the left hand takes the green goes on the left side. We never told AEON, there's a silver and there's a green object and here's what you need to do. We literally just put all the silver in one side and all the green in the side through teleoperation. And then when it cuts to itself, it actually knows how to recognize the part see that there's 2 different parts, remembers effectively through training that the silver should go there and the green should go there. Imagine how much programming you would have had to do even 2 years ago to get that to work. It would basically be 2 objects, all positioned on the table of those 2 objects, any combination thereof, and that's quite extensive, right? Now basically, we show it 30 times. It takes 2 hours, and it knows how to do it. We've won quite a few awards. I'm not going to go through them other than to say that we feel quite good about where we are from a product standpoint, and we're moving forward. So summary so far, there is a market. We have a product. Now how do we bring it to commercial? First is recognition that there's quite a bit of competition in the space. So this is selected global players, large players, well-funded start-ups, U.S., Europe, China, we're aware of it. Why this list? Because just if you take a step back, about 90% of the humanoids there are actually for the consumer space and not for the industry space. So this is a selection that's relevant to our market, the industry. The goal is not to give you a rundown on every one of them, but just to tell you, we're quite aware that we have competition. And the reason we're going to that market is that we feel that we have a differentiating product. And if we didn't feel that, I think Anders will be the first one to say -- he hasn't so far, which is all good. But we have competition, but we feel again, very strongly where we are, and it goes back to some of the fundamental differences we have, the wheels, the battery swap, the sensor suite, spatial intelligence and so on. Our road map, just to give you a view of where we are in 2023 and 2024, we're actually experimenting quite a bit with the form factor, still humanoid, but different variants of it. In 2025, we launched the first product, AEON at Hexagon LIVE in June of 2025. And now we're really moving into commercial, so '26 and beyond. And what you see here is actually AEON working at the BMW factory picking up the battery swaps. So a very clear road map for us, and 2026 is the year that we pivot from product to commercial. We have a very different actually approach to most of our competitors in that space of what we build versus what we buy versus where we partner. So I wanted to spend just a few seconds on it. We buy actually all the commodity elements. So the raw sensors, the end effectors, the battery cells, we buy that. It's commodity. It will get better and better and cheaper and cheaper over time. We don't -- and quite a bit of R&D actually to invest in that if you want to be in that business. We actually built ourselves. Everything we feel is fundamentally differentiating. So the training data, the sensor fusion, which Gordon mentioned, the motion control and everything AI because that's really where we see the difference. I should say everything AI, except the world models, we'll get it in a second. And then where do we partner is where we feel that there's a very high R&D investment needed to get to the right level of competencies. The actuators, for example, we partner with maxon. On the simulation and the edge AI, we partner with NVIDIA. On the world action model, we also partner with NVIDIA and others. And with Microsoft, we do most of the compute, as you can imagine, using Azure, but also all the AI training pipeline. They're very, very strong at the pipeline. We know how to reinvent the wheel, we partner with them. So we have a very interesting vertical integration strategy, if you want, which is not to build it all ourselves, but to find the right partners and the right suppliers and really focus on where we think the differentiating will be in the next year, 2 years, 5 years, 10 years. We definitely are in this business to win. And I think Anders mentioned it also in the morning. So how do we win? Basically 3 things. One, best-in-class product. We talked about the multipurpose aspects, and I will reinsist on that point as many times as I can because truly a multifunctional humanoid is very, very different in the market than a humanoid that can do one thing, as an example, to pick and place objects. When you're multipurpose, you can do obviously multiple things that's obvious, but you can now manage your fleet very differently. Imagine if you need to do manipulation and inspection and reality capture. You would basically need to buy X of Y of the other one and Z of the third one. If you have one humanoid that can do all these things, you need to buy actually quite a lower volume and you optimize the usage of the human fleet in real time in your factory. That has resonated extremely well with all the customers we've talked to. We also know that we need production-grade performance and reliability. And so this is, again, I think, where the heritage of Hexagon and the know-how and knowledge of Hexagon plays a massive role, which is how do you deploy those robots in production. Customers need to be confident that the performance and the reliability is there. And it's always the case in R&D, as you know, the first 90% is quite easy to get to. The last 10% is really hard, and that's where we have, I think, just great, great expertise in the company. Commercial scale, we talked about our customers. But what's really interesting, and we'll talk about it in the next slide or after, is that every pilot we're doing was meant to scale and it can scale in 2 dimensions, either vertically, we just sell more AEONs to a customer. That's great, but also horizontally, which means we test use cases with customers where we have that multipurpose aspect. So we'll go into a few examples of how we crafted this and why we were actually quite specific with the pilots we did. We also have quite a bit of experience in driving high margins. This is a hardware/software mixed business, and it's not that easy to get it right. And again, appreciative of the experience of all my colleagues in helping us figure out what's the right balance. And then the ecosystem. We talked about the technology partners, but what we have not announced yet, but we're working with is manufacturing partners, system integrator partners, machine builder partners. And we really feel that, that ecosystem is going to play a big role. Going at it alone is great. But if you have the right partners in that ecosystem, it's going to be quite powerful, and that has been really proven in all robotics deployment in the last 20 years. So speaking of the pilots, I'm going to spend a bit of time on that slide because, one, we're quite proud of the partners we have with pilots. So with BMW, we made a big announcement in February. We've been working with them for the last 6 months. And we're doing 2 things with them already. One is machine tending. The other one is a very precise manipulation of a battery swap. You'll see in the video in a second how precise it has to be. And we're -- they're quite happy. They've announced -- actually, they've announced publicly that AEON will be in production at the Leipzig factory at BMW by the end of the year. And this is, again, going back to the statement, 2026 is the year of commercialization. We'll be in production in Leipzig by the end of the year with BMW. Schaeffler is a great partner of ours as well. We've been working with them for about 8 months now, mostly about very high-precision manipulation, and now we're also moving to inspection with them. Hopefully, you've seen actually last week, we've released a big partnership announcement with Schaeffler, where they will buy at least 1,000 of our robots over the next few years. Again, another big proof point for us of commercialization in 2026. We'll be in production with them by the end of the year in Germany, and the goal obviously is to expand to their global factory network. But it's -- we feel it's a very strong testament, I think, to the partnerships that they would go out and basically say that they will buy at least 1,000 of our robots. Fill is very interesting. We announced it at the beginning of the week as one of our new partners effectively from a pilot perspective. They're a machine builder. So if you don't -- if you're not familiar with them, they basically built stations, if you want, highly technical robotic stations. And when they sell it to a customer, of course, somebody needs to operate it. So once it's sold, they need to train somebody to actually operate the station. And what we're working with them is to have AEON actually operate the station. And so there's 2 great use cases for us. One, AEON manipulating robots, which is interesting in itself. But two, obviously, that it could be a very interesting resell partner for us where they sell the -- not only the station, but with AEON as a fully autonomous solution to the customers. Their customer base is 100% overlapping with ours. And so we have great synergies from that perspective as well. With Microsoft, you see as a tech partner, but they're also actually a pilot. So we have 3 AEONs working in Houston for Microsoft. I would say it's more in a lab environment at the moment, but obviously, what we're doing is we're pushing the envelope of what a human can do and strong partnership with them. And they were actually the first one to buy AEON. So we actually have sold a few AEONs this year, very low volume, of course. But again, all the way back to the theme of 2026 year of commercialization. Pilatus, for those who don't know, is a high-end aircraft manufacturer. This was the inspection use case that we showed. And so with them, we're working mostly on inspection, inspection of fuselage parts, which is, again, has extremely, extremely stringent requirements on how precise that inspection has to be. But what we've realized with them actually is that with all the sensors that AEON has, if AEON is at the right distance from actually a built-in fuselage, it can actually do inspection of a large part of the plane, which is a really difficult problem currently in the factory lines of airplanes. So quite happy with the partnership there. And then one which we cannot name yet, we thought we would, but we've been working on with them for the last 4 months, I would say. But it's in the automotive space, a big European automotive manufacturer. And there is the full gamut. So we do manipulation inspection, and they're also looking at AEON to do reality capture. So we hope to announce them by probably summer when we finish the big first pilots and then we move towards production with them as well. So we're quite happy actually with where we are. This year was quite pivotal for us. We're moving away from just a product that is nice to look at and having good demos to really a product where we have a clear line of sight to production, again, with BMW and Schaeffler by the end of this year. With Fill, actually, looking we're early next year and with that as well. So we feel that we have really good momentum. But again, for us, it's all about a differentiating product and a year of commercialization. I always like to think that although those slides are quite interesting, if you ask me in a completely objective manner, that the best thing to do is to do what does the customer think of AEON. And so with this, I'll have a video. Hopefully, the sounds will work. I'm crossing my fingers because the music will wake us up quite nicely. But this is what BMW actually shot on their own with AEON. So they had AEON working and they basically... [Presentation]

Arnaud Robert

Executives
#51

So you probably noticed that the end effectors were quite different across the use cases, just a proof point of that. And so we're very, very happy and proud with the partnership with BMW, but I think it's a good just to summarize all of it like, well, it's about AEON in action in production, and that's what it was in one of their factories. So just to conclude, we think, again, we're really well positioned, really built for the industry, differentiating factors, the wheels, the battery swap, the sensor suite, the spatial intelligence and ready to scale. So now that we're moving to production, it's a big moment, by the way, for the division when you go from the concept to now we have a product to now we have customers actually rolling out in production. And so we're just in that journey. We're super excited about the next few years. And that's it for me. And Anders, I think I'm passing it back to you for a wrap-up and opening the Q&A.

Anders Svensson

Executives
#52

Can you hear me again? Yes. Thank you, Arnaud. Fantastic presentation of a very interesting product for us going forward. So I just want to wrap up a bit with going back to the slide that I had in the beginning. So what did I want or we want with this day? Basically, to get a clear message of who are the new Hexagon going forward, what are we focused on? Precision measurement and positioning technologies. We have strong fundamentals with a strong growing markets, future markets, and we have leadership position wherever we operate basically. Proven operating model with clear performance management. And as you could hear from our businesses, clear business strategies within all of our divisions going forward to generate profitable growth. And then we have communicated also clear financial targets going forward, which we are determined to fulfill. So with that, I want to thank you all for participating both in London and also online. And sorry for being a bit late. But Tom, I think we will be going to Q&A anyhow. Yes. Give us a minute to set up the stage, I think, and we will be soon back.

Tom Hull

Executives
#53

Perfect. Yes. So last Q&A of the day. It probably focus on Autonomous Solutions and Robotics, if we can, but any other questions, we'll entertain as well. Okay. Got one just there.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#54

Thank you, and thank you for all presentations. Very insightful. Arnaud, I have a question for you. You described in your presentation, the example with the hands where prices have been driven down 90% and you get double the capacity or something like that. And you also talk about software coding and AI is driving that cost down. So what makes you feel sure that the price of an AEON will stay up or drive higher? Or is this going to be a volume market and prices are driven down at the same time?

Arnaud Robert

Executives
#55

Great question. I think you have to look at it 2 ways. If you had a single-purpose humanoid, then I think it's a bit of a race to the bottom. If you have a multipurpose humanoid, which we are, then actually the ROI is on the total value, right, for the company that's using it. So for example, you have manipulation, sure, of skilled workers, great. People can make their own assessment on ROI. But when you add inspection, it's actually -- the value is less about doing the inspection when somebody else could be doing it is that it's a fundamental bottleneck in many of the factories. The parts go out of the line and then the inspection is the inspector, for lack of a better term, is not present, days, this other, they just pile up, which means there's nothing going to the rest of the line. So that's where when you look at multipurpose humanoids, the equation cannot be -- the economic equation is actually not the 1:1 of the price versus -- it's really what's the value to the customer. And all the conversations we had so far, that value is quite high. And we will maintain it high by doing more with AEON and making sure that our robot always bring a lot of value, right, of business value to the customer.

Tom Hull

Executives
#56

Great. Just one at the front here.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#57

I guess it makes total sense for you to exclude Robotics from financial targets, right, to really go after this opportunity. But how will you handle the growth opportunity in the coming, call it, 5 years? Because I guess there's a scenario where you can accelerate costs quite a lot, meaning that including the cost, margins would all else equal, go down for the group. So is it a situation where Robotics will in 5 years' time, cover your own cost with revenues? Or is it that you need to find sort of a partner within 2 years, if that makes sense. But just how will you sort of -- what will the strategy be for the coming 5 years?

Anders Svensson

Executives
#58

Yes. Thanks for the question. I tried to elaborate that a bit in my presentation. So we are currently looking into this. And when we have a clear strategy going forward on how we will execute this, we will come back and we'll tell you. But until that point, we will go play to win. And that is fully funded by Hexagon and Arnaud and I decide on how much that is. And that is increasing quite quickly, as you said. But the opportunity is tremendous, right? And this is an area where, like Arnaud has talked about, we have an advantage over, I would say, all the other competitors currently, and we intend to keep that. So until then, we are funding it within Hexagon. But we are, like I said, looking also for partners going forward on how to accelerate further. When we come into what Arnaud said, the inflection points and everything, different amounts of money are needed, of course.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#59

A little bit on the same topic. I think we have gone from mid-single-digit euro million cost per year for the Robotics business to EUR 25 million to maybe EUR 50 million. Is that sort of the trajectory you should sort of continue to expect? And then we have to make up our own mind what the revenue is going to be, but is that kind of trajectory that we are looking at?

Anders Svensson

Executives
#60

You should expect that, that will increase year-on-year, for a fact.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#61

And then add on to that. The inflection point we're talking about between '29 and 2030, but can you be more explicit about what is the trigger of that inflection? Is it the capability of the robots or the pricing?

Arnaud Robert

Executives
#62

I think it's a great question. I think it's a combination of a few things. I think typically for robots, I think for what -- there's a lot of use cases we can do today. And so the inflection point is more about how many of those can you do in a single factory and not a single use case, right? The second inflection point is really when we start seeing physical AI being able to enable a deployment of a robot in what is called zero-shot learning, which at the moment, whether it's imitation learning or simulation reinforce learning and so on and so on, it takes quite a bit of data, right, to get the robot to do the task with a high reliability. The moment that changes to you show it once it's done, then you can have a very steep inflection point because now anybody like Schaeffler, for example, can take the robot and teach new tasks overnight, right? And so that is a few years out. And then I think the third big inflection point we see is just honestly just demand and volume, right? And so when you have lower volume, the price is higher, obviously. But when you get to that point in time, you just see that effect that you've seen in many different industries, right, where it just switches, right? So again, is it end of '28, early '29, '30, the market will tell. But physical AI will be one of the drivers, I think, and we're still a few years away from the word model that many companies talk about. We work very closely with all of them, but it's a few years out before you can just have a robot look at a video once and be able to do the task.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#63

A question, an accounting question maybe for Enrique. I was wondering about this new EBIT focus you have EBITAC. I like the idea that you focus operationally on the sort of cash EBITA. But I understand you will still be capitalizing the R&D and have a reported EBIT with the same impact that you've done historically in Hexagon, implying that you will have a different impact on the balance sheet and if you just focus on the cash EBITA and that creates a little bit of issues looking at return on capital employed, et cetera. Is there a reason that you're keeping the capitalization? I mean I met loads of CEOs saying, I just expense all of my R&D direct. And I think that's the way the investors would prefer to look at things as well. Could it be a tax issue, for example? And coming into the tax issue, you are guiding for a higher tax rate going forward, 19% to 21% versus historically 18%. And I think you achieved this attractive tax rate when you acquired Leica and the Swiss asset base in that point of time. Now with Octave, I don't think there's any changes to the Swiss exposure. Is there another reason for this tax hike?

Enrique Patrickson

Executives
#64

Yes. Maybe I start with the tax question first. So the EU's tax pillar, so that directive tax Pillar 2 also means that no country can do below 15% and that effectively means that Switzerland has had to move up and that moves up our average tax rate. And so that's the effect. Essentially, the mix of the countries that we have moves us up a bit from the 18% to the 19% to 21% range that we're in. So it's not so much that Octave moves out. Actually, that has a smaller impact. In terms of the accounting question, the honest answer is that I don't know technically exactly how we will handle that. Actually, we need to sit down and look at that. But the fact remains that we will continue for at least for quite some time, at least keep the EBIT1, which means essentially that we will have a timing gap between capitalization and amortization of that R&D in terms of our -- how we're -- our actual reporting. But the key KPIs that we are following will be EBITAC that essentially expenses it and as a way for essentially that we look at the total cash expense. And I think I was having a conversation with some in the break. So essentially, we take our full EUR 600 million and essentially say, which ones of those -- what are our top EUR 100 million and how -- what return is that giving versus the bottom EUR 50 million or EUR 100 million. So I think that's much more of an interesting management accounting question than exactly how we capitalize and amortize. Hope it makes sense.

Tom Hull

Executives
#65

We have time for one more question. So we'll go to the back just there, Helena, by [ Madeline ].

Ben Castillo-Bernaus

Analysts
#66

It's Ben Castillo from BNP Paribas. Two, if I can just squeeze them in here. First one for you, Arnaud. It feels like you alluded to earlier with the cost deflation of some of the components for AEON. Perhaps it's not the hardware that has the moat, perhaps it's maybe the industry domain knowledge, perhaps it's the data layer on top. Today, I guess you're selling hardware, but how do you position yourself to maybe capture that data or software opportunity long term that may have more of a durable moat? And maybe I'll ask the second question afterwards, but start with that, please.

Arnaud Robert

Executives
#67

So when we sell AEON, it's actually it's a combination of software and hardware. The software side is that we bring some training elements, right, so that the Schaeffler can train the robot itself, for example. So there's a cost to that. And then how you maintain that over time is that we feel that, that portion will be more and more important for customers. They want to train the robot on a particular task. They want to train the robot doing inspection, not just by insulation and so on and so on. So when we look at how we sell AEON, the CapEx, typical CapEx, if you want, a model, is the least likely, right? In the short term, we think there will be some of that because different budgets from different companies, but it will move quickly to Robot-as-a-Service model. And in that context, you effectively -- frankly, you assign even more worth to the software than you do to the hardware.

Ben Castillo-Bernaus

Analysts
#68

And just a follow-up question, this may be for you, Anders or Enrique, to comment on here. But I get that the Robotics business is a totally different business to the rest of Hexagon in terms of where it is in its life cycle. But could you help us just -- what are you aiming for? What might you report on the progress here, perhaps either milestones on certain revenues or shipment rates? What should we maybe anticipate from you? And when it does start to generate revenues, will you be including those, but excluding the costs from your margins? How should we think about that evolution?

Anders Svensson

Executives
#69

Yes. So like I said, we will not include anything with Robotics in our targets with the way we follow up. So neither the investments nor the revenues. We would be fully transparent externally with revenues, with cost and the result for Robotics, but it will not be included. And I would say, hindered in its development by the group financial target framework. So like Arnaud said also, we play to win, and this is needed to be able to play to win within the Hexagon Group. With that, I think we are concluding, Tom, right?

Tom Hull

Executives
#70

Yes.

Anders Svensson

Executives
#71

And from us up here, we really thank you, and it's been a pleasure to talk to you today. And there's also an opportunity to have a look on your way out on the booth back there. And looking forward to speaking with all of you soon again and travel home safe, enjoy the fantastic London weather. It's not very often, but take the opportunity. All right. Thank you. Take care.

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