Indra Sistemas, S.A. (IDR) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
February 25, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Ezequiel Nieto Baquera
executiveGood afternoon, and welcome, everyone, to the result presentation of 2025. My name is Ezequiel Nieto, and I'm the Head of Investor Relations. Let me first introduce the speakers for today's session, Angel Escribano, the Executive Chairman at Indra Group; Jose Vicente Los Mozos, CEO at Indra Group; and Miguel Garau, our CFO. Before I start, let me make mention of the current slide, the disclaimer for this presentation. [Presentation]
Ángel Ruiz
executiveGood afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the 2025 results presentation. Just over a year ago, I became the Chairman of Indra Group, and I was clearly convinced that in times of global uncertainty, it is essential to take decisive action to build our industrial capacity. This is not as easy as it seems. The path is full of obstacles, but I do believe we are moving in the right direction. I can say now that the results I am presenting validate the work done. And more importantly, we can talk about the future. We are building a stronger company with more investments, more partnerships, more effort and the best human capital. Words are empty shells if they are not backed by facts. And you know that I am a man of facts. The results speak for themselves. Over this period, we have multiplied x3 our market cap, and we've created more than EUR 3 billion of shareholder value. This value added for our shareholders is the result of the work and perseverance of all of our Indra Group employees, who have been able to reach major milestones this year. We have achieved EUR 12.78 billion of order intake in 2025, multiplying by more than 2.4x the 2024 figure. And we have more than EUR 16 billion in our backlog, which is more than double the number in 2024. There are two clear pillars at Indra Group. The first pillar drives aerospace and defense and the second pillar drives the technology component. This year, we've made sure both pillars have helped us become the national and European benchmark we aspire to be. In aerospace and defense, we've launched the new units, Indra Land Vehicles, Weapons and Ammunition and Indra Space. We have also strengthened our tech division. And to that end, we have created and launched IndraMind, our brand and sovereign AI platform with a dual civil and military application. We've made our digital capabilities cross-sectional, and we've made them available to all business units within the company. We've also refocused our MINSAIT divestment with the objective of keeping critical talent and key technological capabilities within the group. We have only divested from MINSAIT areas where Indra cannot deliver the necessary value added to its clients. Additionally, we have invested more than EUR 950 million in the acquisition of more than 10 companies and assets, while maintaining the net debt-to-EBITDA ratio at 1x. We have launched Indra Ventures with more than EUR 200 million committed and the ambition to reach EUR 1 billion. Indra Venture aims at investing in technology companies linked to aerospace, cybersecurity, defense and emerging technologies as well as IT technologies. We've also increased our delivery capabilities by opening new industrial and technological centers across different regions of Spain and the U.S. This year, we have multiplied our order intake and backlog by more than 2x. The order intake exceeds EUR 12.7 billion in 2025, which is 2.4x the 2024 figure. This is driven by strong growth in defense, where we've multiplied by 8 the order intake and reaching additional billion. And in addition, the order intake in the rest of the Indra Group departments has also grown by 7% specifically. In 2025, the backlog exceeded EUR 16 billion, which is more than double the year prior. I would particularly highlight the growth of the defense market, where the backlog has multiplied x4. The rest of the group's businesses have also evolved in a very solid and balanced way. The growth is very stable at 11%, way above the market average. I would like to highlight that. This level of order intake and backlog shows the change in the company's commercial mindset and the confidence of our clients in the Indra Group and its team. This commitment has made these figures possible. In 2025, we have secured EUR 13.8 billion in special modernization programs. This figure represents more than just business volume. It represents institutional trust, trust in our industrial capabilities and the boost to continue investing in more technology and more innovation. In fact, we lead 17 out of 31 programs launched either directly from Indra Group through our subsidiaries or through joint ventures. This positions us as the driving force in defense in Spain. So we are playing a key role in modernizing our country's defense and deterrence capabilities. In addition, we participate in more than 10 programs as subcontractors, further expanding our presence in the industrial ecosystem and reinforcing our position as a strategic partner. Through these programs, we will develop and deliver critical capabilities for the Spanish armed forces across all domains, land, sea, air, cyber and space. Among others, I would highlight the delivery of land vehicles, tactical radios, satellite, C-UAS systems, drones, advanced cyber defense solutions and next-generation radars. This is quite a comprehensive portfolio that spans across key domains and demonstrates our ability to integrate advanced technology into real operational solutions. The success in securing the 2025 PEM programs is not a coincidence, and it has not been accomplished randomly. It's clearly the outcome of our anticipation of our bold decisions and the strategic choices made in the past. Over these months, viewed individually, you might think they are operational adjustments, but viewed together, they amount to strategic commitment to industrial and technological independence in order to develop all the capabilities required to deliver on the commitments set out in the 2025 PEM programs. First, we decided to create two new defense divisions, land vehicles and weapons and ammunition. We did this in March 2025 ahead of the market. Thanks to that, we structured our industrial and specific capabilities to execute the PEMs. The land vehicle division today accounts for 34% of the 2025 defense backlog, and it's our ambition to become the land prime contractor to lead the growing national and international programs. At the same time, we've launched IndraMind our sovereign artificial intelligence platform with dual civil and military applications. It seeks to protect and reinforce technological sovereignty and it seeks to operate in increasingly complex hybrid environment. In addition, we have strengthened our industrial capabilities with a long-term vision. We've carried out strategic acquisitions within our industrial capabilities such as El Talleron, and then a new facility in Cordoba, where we will be manufacturing half of the satellites for experts and then Aertec's Aerial Systems subsidiary. Since June, we've been mobilizing our group professionals who've dedicated exclusively their time to prepare the bids for the award of the PEMs. We've worked to prepare the broader ecosystem involving companies, start-ups, universities, vocational training centers and institutions. This is strengthening the Spanish industrial ecosystem and ensuring that together, we can meet this challenge in which we are all engaged. This mix of anticipating, preparing and executing has made a big difference. And it explains the results that we see today. Alongside the industrial and organizational reinforcement, Indra Group has taken a decisive steps in its international expansion, consolidating its international presence with contracts across 5 continents. We have increased international contracts compared with 2024 without taking these two contracts into account. In Mobility, we've landed the Transport for London contract worth EUR 1 billion, and we will be a key company in the transportation system of a great metropolitan city, which is London. London has looked towards Spain, and they found Indra to reinforce its mobility system, and we're going to serve more than 8.6 million passengers every day. I would like to highlight that this contract award is a result of everybody's work within Indra because beyond the Mobility business unit, other departments have taken part. And then in ATM, we have a contract with the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration worth more than EUR 300 million in the first phase, which involves the design, manufacturing and deployment of radars to modernize the United States Air Surveillance Network. This strengthens our position as one of the main players in the sector worldwide. We will be deploying a fully operational production facility in Kansas in less than 6 months. Additionally, we have secured more than 15 major international contracts across 5 continents to continue to drive Indras' international presence, starting with the renewal of the Haramain contracts in Saudi Arabia, following with the installation of radars for observation and tracking in Germany, strengthening our presence in the strategic markets with high technological requirements. Another milestone I am particularly proud of was the launch of our sovereign artificial intelligence platform, IndraMind. To build it, we have used our most advanced digital profiles in artificial intelligence, cybersecurity and cyber defense to develop a proprietary sovereign platform, IndraMind. IndraMind is already having real impact in critical areas. In artificial intelligence, we have deployed real-time strategy solutions in the most demanding environment, and we have signed four additional confidential contracts to protect critical infrastructure and also in the areas of intelligence and defense. In cybersecurity, high-tech is evolving by integrating AI into our security operations centers. And in cyber defense, we're participating in key programs such as the CPeM for the development of the cyberspace combat system and the Cyber Range PEM, which seeks to create advanced cyber simulation and maneuvering capabilities. Going forward, we see a pipeline of more than EUR 2 billion nationally and internationally. We don't only have the technology and the use cases. There is a market, there is demand, and we have an opportunity to grow. Also, we are evolving on MINSAIT to maximize its value within Indra Group. Our goal is twofold. First, we want to move towards a portfolio of higher value-added solutions. This includes divesting from the BPO business and repositioning payment methods, which will remain a part of Indra Group. In addition, we are driving double-digit growth in high-value solutions, especially in cloud and data for strategic sectors such as public administrations and energy. We are also making digital capabilities cross-sectional because we want to serve all group units. We are adding advanced technologies into the bidding process in operations of defense and space, and we are accelerating the digitalization of the supply chain and corporate functions. In short, Minsait and the technology sector are the pillars that underpin the Indra Group. And therefore, it is essential for the Minsait business to drive value creation and efficiency, and it must create a competitive advantage by having the technological DNA in-house. The outlook for 2026 is also very positive. We see three main trends. First, we expect a significant increase in defense investment across European countries. Recently, the NATO Secretary General, Mr. Mark Rutte highlighted the astonishing shift in Europe's mindset towards higher spending and greater leadership in defense within Europe to lead in the field. I must highlight in his words that Europe is assuming more responsibilities and strengthening its military capabilities. Second, we're facing a new reality in European and Spanish sovereignty. The European Union has set the goal of that 50% of defense spending should be produced within the EU. And in Spain, our commitment is for 78% of PEM outsourcing to remain domestic. This clearly shows how countries are prioritizing their strategic independence and critical industrial capabilities. Third, we've seen an acceleration of the impact of technology, especially around AI and cybersecurity. In a very short period of time, we've seen AI platforms to show a very similar approach to IndraMind. And we've seen how their valuations have multiplied x2 and/or x3 in 2024 and '25. This is not a one-off event. This is a clear signal of where the market is moving and where the growth expectations are concentrated. But beyond financial valuations, what truly matters is tangible impact. Studies published by comparable companies are showing productivity increases between 20% and 30%. In other words, AI is not just a technological promise. It is a real lever for a competitive advantage. At Indra Group, we don't only have the capabilities, we also know how to deploy them and how to monetize them. We've integrated them into our internal processes, into our industrial plans and into our offering. And this confirms something we've defended at Indra for the longest time. Technology is not a support function. It is a strategic pillar on which Indra Group rests. And within that technology pillar, AI and cybersecurity are key. None of these figures is cosmetic. They are the foundation of a strong industry competing for a place in a geopolitical landscape that demands more investment in technology and the ability to withstand adverse cycles without putting the industrial project at risk. Because Indra's independence and our country's position as a European Power is not a balance sheet issue. Above all, it is a matter of capabilities. Indra has reinforced its role in next-generation EU programs. Indra has consolidated its global leadership in air traffic management systems, and it has expanded its digital solutions, which are critical for infrastructure such as energy, transportation and public administrations. This is -- we're not selling more of the same. We are very well placed in areas where cumulative knowledge and technology makes us hardly replaceable players, and we become the reference for Europe. We have a very solid position in the national market in Spain in 2025. The spending for defense was EUR 33 billion. Out of that EUR 33 billion, EUR 24.8 billion are the PEM, the special modernization programs. And out of that EUR 24 billion, Indra has landed EUR 13.8 billion, which shows our very strong position in the national ecosystem. At the same time, the NATO's commitment points towards a 5% GDP target for defense and security, and some countries such as Poland, Germany or the U.K., have already communicated their spending goals for the next few years. Our goal is to be the driving company in Spain. That should be our positioning, and we want to continue to grow internationally to become a household name in Europe, the U.S. and the Middle East. We continue to operate in global markets, but we do so from a different positioning. We're not a dispensable supplier. We integrate complex systems. We have intellectual property, and we have accumulated growth, and we can lead in highly critical projects. That is why we stand out. That is why we are a strategic choice. And we are not just a byproduct of a forest dependency. The question is, do we want to be a dispensable chain link in a value chain designed in Seattle or China? Or should we build capabilities to become a much needed partner? Well, our choice at Indra has been the second and the results prove that we are right. The sustained growth in our order intake, the improved profitability and the bigger backlog book show that reinforcing our own capabilities can be done together with global success in markets. Before I give the word to Jose Vicente with whom I've shared the success in Indra this year, I'd like to share with you a video we have prepared to highlight the main milestones that we have accomplished all together. And of course, I want to thank Indra team -- the great Indra team for our accomplishments in 2025. [Presentation]
Jose vicente Los mozos
executiveThank you very much, Angel and good afternoon, everybody. And indeed, we have achieved major step in 2025. Not only have we been able to meet the guidance we had set for ourselves this year, but we have actually exceeded it. In terms of revenue, we committed to go beyond EUR 5.2 billion, and we have reached EUR 5,457 million. That's EUR 257 million above our forecast, which sets us 5% above our guidance. In terms of EBIT, we set our target of EUR 490 million, and we have closed up beyond EUR 517 million, which is 6% more. And in cash generation, we set the objective of EUR 300 million, and have reached EUR 364 million, which accounts for 21% above our commitment. And if we exclude the impact of tests from our results, we have also met the guidance proposed across all our business lines. And this performance is underpinned by clear operational milestones. First, the order intake of the group, EUR 12.7 billion, which is 2.5 -- 2.4x the figure of 2024. We have also doubled Indra Group's backlog compared to 2024, over EUR 16 billion. And besides that, we keep on accelerating the transformation of the group. We have strengthened the cross-cutting collaboration across different areas to place technological capabilities at the service of all the businesses in the group. We have intensified the commercial focus, and we have fostered a business-focused culture. We have increased our international vocation and this vocation is reflected in specific achievements as we heard in the afternoon and through key international contracts such as the Transport for London or the renewal of surveillance radars in the United States for air traffic. And we will keep on improving margins within Minsait and Mobility to bring them in line with our competitors. Minsait, we can see an EBITDA improvement of 0.8 percentage points compared to 2024, and we have especially been able to materialize that improvement in the second half of 2025 with the arrival of the new management team. In Mobility, the improvement reached 1.3 percentage points compared to 2024. And now I would like to thank all of Indra Group team for their dedication and their commitment in this transformation. I would also like to take the opportunity to thank the Board of Directors and the Chairman for their trust. The results we have achieved are an isolated event. It's actually a consistent pattern within the company since my arrival at Indra in May 2023, we have exceeded the targets we have set for ourselves every year. When I got here, we reached EUR 4,343 million in revenue, EUR 347 million in EBIT and EUR 312 million in cash flow. In 2024, we launched a strategic plan Leading the Future, which was the start of a transformation and improvement phase that has lasted until our days. And this year, we once again set very demanding targets, and we have exceeded them. In 2025, we have repeated the same pattern, which is to say the demanding guidance and once again over-deliver. At Indra Group, we have -- we are delivering an ambitious growth, but with discipline and with a track record that the market can actually measure and verify year after year. Today, I can tell you that the foundations of the company's transformation are firm. And now what we need to do is to respond to the trust that our customers place in us every day. And to do so, ladies and gentlemen, there's only one way of doing it, which is delivery, delivery and delivery. We have achieved a strong increase in order intake and our backlog all across our businesses. Order intake in 2025 reached EUR 12.7 billion, which is 2.4 -- which is 4 -- sorry, EUR 7.4 billion more than 2024. This growth is largely explained to the strong momentum of the defense business, as explained by the President, went from EUR 1 billion to over EUR 8 billion mainly driven by Eurofighter and PEMs, the special modernization programs without PEMs, defense order intake would have increased by 23%. But we have also seen growth in the rest of the group's areas in air traffic, mobility within Minsait. And we have been able to keep that positive trend with a solid growth of 7%. In addition, international contracts secured this year allow us to keep on growing in air traffic and mobility. We've already mentioned radars in the United States, but also radars in the United Kingdom or our civilian air traffic or rail maintenance contracts in Chile or urban traffic management in Ireland or tolling systems in Colombia or the Cairo subway maintenance, and or the renewal of the Haramain main project in Saudi Arabia within mobility. The backlog has gone beyond EUR 16 billion, more than double the previous year. And I would like to especially mention the evolution in defense that went from almost EUR 3 billion to over EUR 11 billion. At the same time, the rest of the businesses of the group have increased their backlog by EUR 474 million showing a balanced and sustainable development. On March 6, 2024, we presented our plan, Leading the Future, a strategic plan based on 7 key strategic lines, as you can see. And today, after 2 years, I can say that we are on track to deliver our plan far above our initial targets. Let me now highlight the most relevant milestones achieved over the past year. In 2025, one of the reasons why we were able to secure the special modernization plans, as the President mentioned, is thanks to the preparation that we have carried out and our ability to show that we can deliver on time and on scope. And especially in aerospace and defense, we have taken key steps to ensure the delivery, not just of these modernization plans, but all the contracts we have been able to materialize during 2024, sorry, 2025. First, we have expanded our industrial footprint. And our objective is to multiply by 4 in 2027, when compared to 2024 by adding over 100,000 square meters of production capacity. And at the same time, we have strengthened and expanded our engineering capabilities. Second, in 2026, we will produce 2.5x more units than in 2024. And this would not have been possible without the efforts that we have made to standardize products and increase their industrialization. And in this context, we have implemented a serial production in our plants gone from 2 to 3 manufacturing shifts for our key products. Third, we have worked on tiering our supply chain. As you know, well, I come from the world of car manufacturing from the automotive world, and this is part of its DNA. And according to that experience, we have gone from over 2,000 suppliers to 440 strategic Tier 1 suppliers, while the rest of the companies have structured along that value chain. And all of this is supported by an industrial management mindset and digitalization of our operations. Both Angel and myself know that we are both from the industrial world, and we both have experience and we are always involved in the strategic decisions on new sites and suppliers and delivery. And we monitor those advancements besides that we have implemented a digital platform with real-time data, allow us to identify when and how we should reinforce capacities to be able to meet our delivery commitments and what's even more relevant besides all of it, our clients have recognized the delivery and the commitment we have shown with customer satisfaction -- improvement of the Customer Satisfaction Score up to 86 and Net Promoter Score of 52. And this figure places us at the top of our sector and confirm that the actions deployed are having a real impact. So in short, we are not reacting to growth. We have prepared in advance to be able to deliver and execute in 2026. And given that an image is worth more than a thousand words, I'm going to share with you a clip in which we explain in greater detail how we have evolved our industrial capabilities by boosting serial production and the scale of our operations. [Presentation]
Jose vicente Los mozos
executiveAs I mentioned at Indra Group, we are driving amazing industrial growth. Our objective is to at least multiply by four industrial footprint before 2027. We'll go from 35,000 square meters in 2024 to over 140,000 square meters in 2027. In 2024, our industrial footprint was limited, as you can see, to the region of Madrid in Spain and other two plants, one in the United Kingdom, a small one in the United States. In 2025, we have expanded our domestic footprint with two additional manufacturing plants that are already operational. The first one in Cordoba, the south of Spain with over 13,000 square meters dedicated to radars and also, well, both to radars and counter-drone systems. The second one [indiscernible] in the north of Spain with over 20,000 square meters, where we manufacture and integrate land vehicles. And in fact, by the end of 2025, we already achieved the rollout of the first eight-wheel-drive fight vehicles. This facility in 2026, we will strengthen our capabilities in Spain in radar, drones and counter-drone systems with new factories in Cordoba and Leon. And from an international perspective, we will consolidate our presence in the United Kingdom. We're expanding our footprint in the United States, including new capabilities in Kansas Great Plains linked to radars and radios. By 2027, we have quadrupled the industrial footprint of 2024. In addition to our current capabilities, we will add 5 new plants in Spain and the industrial presence in the Arab Emirates. And in such a way, we will reinforce our technology sovereignty, our proximity to our customer and our resilience. And to do so between 2025 and 2027, we will invest over EUR 400 million in CapEx in our industrial footprint, and we expect to create over 3,000 jobs with the objective of strengthening our engineering, production and delivery capabilities. And overall, we are going to move to a network with a greater scale, greater geographical diversification and greater specialization by site, ready to support the expected business growth and meet delivery deadlines. On the other hand, in line with the objectives set at the 2024 Capital Markets Day, we keep on advancing in the standardization and industrialization of our product portfolio. This is a key step to increase our scale, improve our competitiveness and accelerate our response to cater for the needs of the market. In 2024, we set a very clear course. We are focusing on 6 major technology categories to develop integrated solutions and amongst them, we included radars. For example, in 2026, we have multiplied by 4 the number of units produced of priority radars, reaching and exceeding the target we set for ourselves, which was multiplied by 3, the number of units in 2024. And for example, in the LTR-25, we will go from 1 to over 10 units a year and within NEMUS, for fewer than 10 to over 100 units per year. Second, we are advancing in the standardization of our portfolio, our Leading the Future plan. In that plan, we set the target of having over 60% elements in common across different markets for the main radar families and in line with our objective for the AESA radar family, over 80% of the elements are going to be shared, which will streamline our production processes. Third, we will keep on reducing the number of radar families in our portfolio. We have said the objective of going from 8 to 13. And in 2026, we already have 14 families in line with our ideas. This standardization will allow us to strengthen our technology positioning and our competitiveness in different markets. And last, and as we committed, we have reduced our production times. And to achieve that, we have established two production shifts in all our sites and three shifts for priority products. We have also advanced in serial production. This change in our motion towards mass production allows us to accelerate production pace and anticipate the procurement required according to expected demand. As a result, we have reached the objective of reducing at least 50% of lead times going from 13 months to under 6. And please now allow me to explain what we've done in terms of our supply chain. At Indra, we have worked to structure and divide our supply chain by tiers. We want to have a true driving role in the industrial ecosystem, especially within the defense sector in Spain. Today, 78% of our defense procurement is carried out to Spanish suppliers. Two years ago, it was a bit over above 50%. We have also increased by 70% the procurement expenditure compared to 2024, and we have increased by over 80% in the average value per supplier. In that way, we have tiered our supplier base. We have identified 450 Tier 1 strategic suppliers that account for 90% of aerospace and defense procurement. These concentration of volumes allows us to improve our efficiency, improve coordination and strengthen control over quality, lead times and costs. And precisely in terms of costs, the results are visible. We have achieved savings of over 10% in the sourcing of components for key products in for the radio families, LTI-25, NEMUS or PSR-2D. And our focus for this year is to be able to double those savings as we consolidate our serial production. So we are building a more structured, more efficient supply chain that's better aligned with our industrial ambition with the objective of increasing our competitiveness, resilience and long-term execution. In terms of space, at the 2024 Capital Markets Day, we made a clear commitment to create a business unit with an end-to-end positioning capable of covering the entire value chain and competing at a European level. Today, two years later, we can say that, that commitment has been fulfilled. The Indra Group is already in the space domain. We have the pieces, we have put the pieces in place to capitalize that business. And today, I can say that Indra Space is a European company with integrated capabilities across the whole value chain. And thanks to that positioning, we have achieved strategic milestones such as being awarded on the Paz-2 PEM of over EUR 1 billion in 2025, Indra Space revenue exceeded EUR 375 million with an EBITDA margin above 45%. For 2026, our objective is to keep on strengthening our value proposition and maintain our growth path to go beyond EUR 400 million in revenue. Looking ahead, the context is favorable, both the ESA has announced a 30% budget increase as well as Spain that will increase its annual contribution. Both factors will help us improve our expectations. And to do so, it is important to account on programs like IRIS2 or PAF 2 in the next few years. Well, we will have a key role to play in the Spanish space industry. And when talking about technology, we are leveraging AI advancements with a dual objective to increase our internal productivity and enhance our solutions offering. Internally, AI is fully integrated into our production processes and corporate functions, and we can already see an impact. In terms of software, we have been able to achieve an increase of over 10% in revenue per employee, driven by intensive use of AI tools. Today, over 61% of our teams use these advanced capabilities. And we are also integrating AI into our industrial operations. And that improves operational efficiency and the quality of our industrial plants. Amongst others, we are deploying a visual inspection, automated visual inspection. To accelerate its use, we have established more than 10 alliances with hyperscalers and strategic technology partners. At the same time, we are enhancing our product offering. And through IndraMind, we have prioritized 6 key use cases: sovereign intelligence, emergency management, drones swarm, cyber defense, critical infrastructure protection and the protection of sovereignty. The integration of tech operations is key to scale this transformation across the group by implementing AI and ensuring technology coherence and scalability. In 2025, we have also made progress in the evolution of Minsait to maximize its value within the Indra Group. And this means that we can find a tangible impact in productivity with an increase of over 9.7% on employee -- on revenue per employee, showing a more technological and more value-oriented organization. Talking about international expansion, we've already mentioned it. It's been an important year for Indra. We have gone from 27 to even more, from 19 to 27 countries. And we are trying to focus more on those countries to be able to improve our commercial efforts. On our M&A strategy, a fundamental pillar to strengthen our knowledge, our division is key and consolidates our presence. In 2025, as the President mentioned, we have invested, not expanded. Other one within different corporate operations such as Hispasat and Hisdesat, Aertec or TESS in defense. And I'd also like to -- well, not talking about M&A, I'd like to mention something that you're all expecting, which is what's going to happen with the potential operation. I'd like to mention what's been done. As you know, in June, there was an ad hoc committee created with a protocol that's been shared through the Spanish SEC. In December, the plan was approved by the Board. And in January, the Board asked me to talk to the stakeholders to go back to the Board with feedback, and that's what the process in which we are in. So we keep on working on this operation, and that's what I can tell you about this topic, this M&A topic. And well, now let's talk about investment and talent. Last year, as you can see, we invested over EUR 472 million in R&D, around 9% of our revenue, priority technologies such as cyber defense, gallium nitride, photonics or applied AI with over 400 agreements with universities and research centers, start-ups around the design of microelectronics, quantum technologies and the development of space technology with big data or the divestment of BPO and the consequence is quite easy to see. We went from EUR 87,000 per employee in 2024 to 96,000 in 2025. And if we take into account the divestment of BPO, we are now at EUR 96,000 per employee, an improvement of 20% compared to 2024. So those are important elements in which we keep on growing, we keep on advancing with our critical talent, and that's why we have been chosen as a top employer. And for Standard & Poor's, this was an important year. We've been chosen as one of the most sustainable companies worldwide and the first one in Europe in our sector. So not only are we working on efficiency, but besides that, we are also working on improving our governance. And well, now the main financial indicators. As you can see, we have an order intake of EUR 16 billion and our revenue of EUR 5.4 billion with an EBITDA margin, operational margin and EBIT and net debt of EUR 583 million. So we have been able to meet our net debt-EBITDA ratio of 1:1. So if we check the results per area, we can start in defense, a portfolio of EUR 11.3 million (sic) [ EUR 11.3 billion ], EUR 8.1 million (sic) [ 8.1 billion ] order intake, EUR 1.4 billion of revenue, a growth of 36.4%, EBITDA margin 18.4% and operational margin of 17.1%. And the difference compared to the previous year is 1.4% in operational margin, in EBITDA of 1.6%. One is the change of mix and second, the preparation to increase our capabilities. And if we take a look at air traffic management, it's been a good year. And we're getting closer and closer to be leaders in ATM. The commitment of the group is to be almost there and with a portfolio of EUR 1.1 billion, order intake EUR 726 million and revenue EUR 523 million. And just a short story here, when we won that tender for the FAA and we were there with the United States, with the transportation secretary, so [indiscernible] partners. So why are we strategic partner? Well, the response was easy. You have the most advanced solution in air traffic, and we want to work with the best. And that's one of the reasons why we were able to win a contract for ATM, which we hope it's not the last one, and that's what we are working for. So if we talk about mobility, well, good backlog and EUR 469 million in order intake, EUR 319 million revenue, and we keep on improving the efficiency, both in terms of EBITDA margin and the operational margin, great work that's been done to refocus the business of mobility. On Minsait, in a country in which the sector was growing very slightly, we keep on having an increase of our backlog of 9% or EUR 2.6 million (sic) [ EUR 2.6 billion ], EUR 3.4 million (sic) [ EUR 3.4 billion ] in order intake and revenues closed that have grown almost 5% up to EUR 3.1 billion, and we keep on improving both EBITDA as well as the operational margin and our EBIT margin in a context in which companies are slightly curbing and we are able to keep on growing. So what's our guidance for 2026? To keep on improving. And to do so, the guidance is quite easy, over EUR 7 billion in revenue, over EUR 700 million in EBIT and over EUR 375 million in cash flow. And our priorities, quite easy. We are getting -- we are preparing our scale-up strategic plan. So we did the focus phase. We believe that the phase almost finished, and we are getting ready for the scale-up phase that will be developed in the second quarter 2026. We will keep on reinforcing our capabilities to be able to deliver the programs in our portfolio, and we will keep on working on our international expansion and growth, and we will keep on evolving the Indra Group towards excellence by transforming its culture. And these are our priorities, so we keep on working and now I give the floor to Miguel. He will explain the financial results in detail. Thank you.
Miguel Forteza
executiveThank you very much, Jose Vicente, and good evening, everyone. Let's continue with the financial highlights for 2025. Starting with the free cash flow. The company reached EUR 364 million, well above the target set of EUR 300 million for this fiscal year. This number represents a 36% growth year-over-year, once again, supported by very strong growth in the fourth quarter, which contributed to EUR 307 million. As we've mentioned in the past, this performance follows the historical pattern characterized by strong seasonality. The first 9 months of the year make a smaller contribution, while the last quarter concentrates most of the volume and most of the free cash flow generation. Now regarding the working capital, the evolution of days of sales shows an improvement vis-a-vis 2024. This is mainly due to the consolidation of TESS, Hispasat and Hisdesat, as well as a lower level in receivables and payables, which are often offset by higher inventories driven by the increased group activity. As a result, we stand at negative 16 days of sales compared with the negative 7 days recorded in December 2024. Let's now look at the evolution of the net financial debt in 2025. We closed the year with a net debt of EUR 583 million compared with the EUR 86 million of cash registered at the end of fiscal year 2024. The group's acquisitions in 2025 are the reason for this change. They amount to EUR 907 million, most notably the purchase of Hispasat and Hisdesat EUR 725 million and TESS for EUR 107 million. This impact was partially offset by the solid operating cash flow of EUR 587 million, driven by the good operational performance of the business and by a positive working capital impact amounting to EUR 63 million. And then CapEx increased due to the strong commitment of this group to its industrial transformation. And taxes have also increased because of the higher profit achieved in the year. As a result of all of the above, the net debt-to-EBITDA leverage ratio stands at 1x versus the 0.2x it was in December 2024. It's important to remember the effect of the acquisition of Hispasat and Hisdesat on this multiple because their consolidation did not contribute EBITDA in 2025. And finally, regarding the structure of our debt, I would like to highlight that we continue to reduce the cost of our gross debt down to 3.1% from the 4.2% we registered at the end of 2024. And then the average debt maturity stands at 3.1 years compared with 1.3 years reported last year. Finally, we closed the year with a consolidated cash position of EUR 1 billion. In addition, the company has EUR 1.175 billion available through additional lines of credit, including financing facility from the European Investment Bank up to EUR 385 million with a defined use of funds. And with that, I'll give the floor back to Angel Escribano to close this presentation.
Ángel Ruiz
executiveThank you, Miguel. Before closing, we would like to remind you that in the first half of 2026, we will celebrate our Capital Markets Day, where we will present the next phase of the strategic plan, leading the future scale up. We have completed the 2024-'26 focus phase with results above expectations. We are now entering an acceleration phase towards 2030, and our ambition is very clear. As Jose Vicente has explained, we seek to surpass EUR 7 billion in revenue in 2026 and reach EUR 10 billion in revenue before 2030. Before we play one final video, I would like to remind you that, once again, the dividend payout per share is up to EUR 0.30 this year. This is a significant increase for this company. Although Indra, as you know, does not -- is not a high dividend payout payer, but we create value rather. That's our focus, and that's our challenge going ahead, as you all know. [Presentation]
Ángel Ruiz
executiveAll right. Let me explain that this video is intended to demonstrate our commitment to the future we are building because we want our very name to reflect who we are and where we are going, a national benchmark in dual-use technologies supported by the development of sovereign proprietary artificial intelligence IndraMind. Without further ado, thank you very much for coming to this results presentation, and good afternoon.
Ezequiel Nieto Baquera
executiveSo we will start with the analysts that are here in the room. So we will start with the Q&A session. Thank you, please.
Juan Cánovas
analystMy name is Juan Canovas from Alantra Equities. And I'd like to ask, first, in defense, we have seen -- we have increased our expenditure to over 2% of our GDP. That's every year. So what are the expectations of Indra for 2026, 2027? And I would also like to ask about the FCAS, because it's been mentioned quite a lot in the press. I don't know if you can update on the financing cash. I don't know if there's something to say about this program.
Unknown Executive
executiveAll right. Let me address both your questions. Regarding the spending and the goal to increase the spending in defense to 2% of the GDP, it's a decision the government needs to take as they have indicated and they've made public. And it's not for 2025, it's rather an ongoing investment. In 2026, given the growth of the GDP, 2% represents more, quite some more, in fact. So once again, these special modernization programs will come to be once again, and Indra is very well positioned to work in as many as possible within our capabilities. As I mentioned earlier, they focus on the three dimensions of the Army plus cybersecurity, which is another important pillar of this company. We are very well positioned, to bid to, many programs, and we hope and expect we will be awarded as many as in 2025. And then regarding the FCAS, well, the program is doing very well. It's working well. There is some reluctance between the great French player and the great German player. I would say that we are the greatest Spanish player, and we are coordinating the project. This is -- this project is still in definition. As you've read in the press, this is no secret. There might be 1 or 2 aircraft and they might be bigger or smaller. Given the events of the last two years, there is not much definition regarding the final outcome, but the aircraft will exist and this Indra is leading the Spanish pillar without a doubt.
Ezequiel Nieto Baquera
executiveNext question, please.
Beatriz Rodriguez Fernandez
analystThis is Batriz from Bestinver. Congratulations for your results. My first question is regarding the guidance for '26. Can you share some details about what you include from TESS, FCAS Europe and so on? And the second question regarding the cancellation of the payment sales. Could you go into the reasons? And do you have any other options on the table such as, let's say, there has been some noise on the press regarding the sale of the strategic consulting division.
Jose vicente Los mozos
executiveSo in terms of backlog, we have detailed what's being planned for this year, but we prefer not to mention it. So we have it by business area, defense with PMs with modernization plans and we thought them, but until we know the content, it would be a bit frivolous to mention it. So we are working on it, and we believe we know which are the modernization plans that we can take over. In terms of Minsait, we are carrying out a deep assessment. So we are trying to look at Minsait in the future. There are two things that are going to be important. First, making our digital capabilities cross-cutting and -- so we've got people in AI, cloud and cyber that work in mobility, air traffic. So we want to be the greater manufacturers with the most advanced artificial intelligence. So good work is being done. And within our core business, we have seen that BPO was not part of our core business, and that's why we got it out of our scope. Payment methods. We have seen that what was being proposed to us, well, we thought that we could extract more value from it, and we've thought with our teams and given that we don't need to sell it, we have carried out a deep analysis, a deep assessment, and we've seen that by integrating our CapEx and our know-how, we can improve the efficiency, and that's why we have made that decision. That's what we do every day, both in terms of M&A and divestment as well. If we believe it to be interesting and if we can have better results with third parties, we do it and otherwise, we won't. That's the assessment we do every day with our team and with the President.
Carlos Javier Treviño Peinador
analystCarlos Trevino from Santander. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to ask if we exclude the consolidation of Hispasat, Hisdesat and TESS, there will still be organic growth above 10% and the expectation of sales for the year. Can you provide a bit more visibility on the growth levels you can see in the different business areas? And more specifically in defense, I'd like to ask how you have included in the guidance to events? If I'm not wrong, FCAS, the European side, and the project will finish in April, you have included -- have you included the participation in the European side, not the European PEM, but the European side in the guidance for 2026. And second, on PEMs, 31 programs. They are quite complex. So you think there could be delays due to administration or even court decisions that could have an impact on Indra?
Jose vicente Los mozos
executiveWell, on backlog, I don't want to get you bored, but if you see this, we've got it with PEM, without a PEM. So we have assessed it. But we prefer not to mention it. But we do have those calculations with the PEM, without PEM in each area of defense, dominance, land, maritime, cyber events. So we've done the exercise. And on the courts, Angel, you've got the floor.
Unknown Executive
executiveThank you, very kind. Well, there's not much we can say. It's not our decision to make. We've done our homework. And the appeal, the council has been sent to the Council of Ministers to the government, that's what the Supreme Court has decided. We see it as a mistake. And up until now, the courts have sided with us and our legal counsel decides with us, of course and there is nothing we can do right now except to wait. There is nothing we can do about that decision. The only thing we know for certain is that it will not have impact on production. We're working full tilt, and we really don't think this is going to come to anything. And regarding the FCAS in Europe, the program stands this year. We also have the national FCAS program. There are two sides to it, in fact, Indra leads that program. And together with Airbus, Indra co-leads the other PEM. So that's the one we didn't -- we chose not to run for, and we are co-dealing with Airbus. The authorities are working on it. And by March, they will take a final decision. So probably it will start in the first half of the year, first 9 months of the year. This doesn't really only depend on the Spanish industry, it depends on the European industry. We're in a rush the same way the French and the German industry are in a rush.
Carlos Javier Treviño Peinador
analystSo expected sales are EUR 2.5 billion for the FCAS, sorry, EUR 205 million.
David Sanchez
analystDavid from JB Capital. Regarding Minsait, we've seen a relevant improvement in the margin for Minsait in Q4. Is this structural? Is this something we might see long term? Or is this temporary? And then regarding the business CapEx, your guidance is some EUR 400 million cumulative through 2027. Can you give us some visibility into what part of that investment will be in '26 or '27?
Unknown Executive
executiveAbout Minsait, let me remind you that I came to the role a year ago and seemed Minsait was going to go down a different path. First thing I mentioned in coordination with Jose Vicente was that Minsait would not be sold so much so that, well, thanks to the work of the two people leading here, Jose Sebastian and Luis Fernandez, we are really turning the company upside down and creating more value out of the service surrendered, which was very much needed, and this is what these people are doing. So the investments in Minsait are precisely the investments needed for the goal of the company, which is the second -- for them to become the second pillar for Minsait. Indra is not going to focus only on defense, and it's not going to stand on one pillar. Minsait is one company with two pillars today. Because IT is a very important pillar for it, there are lots of technologies around defense that include or require IT. And a growing activity within defense is cyber defense. Cyber defense can be used by an insurance company or in households. Everybody uses cyber defense. And a more professional law enforcement agencies use it as well. So Minsait is a priority for us. It's core to the company. And it's just as important as defense.
David Sanchez
analystOn CapEx, we mentioned EUR 400 million. So how is that made up? And in factories, vertical integration on those elements that are part of the core business. And that's going to be over EUR 100 million of the approximate EUR 300 million around everything else labs and all the other investments in the radar facilities. So there's [indiscernible] that CapEx is EUR 100 million for big machinery and EUR 300 million for the rest.
Ezequiel Nieto Baquera
executiveGreat. We've gone beyond the time we have. So if you want to close the meeting?
Ángel Ruiz
executiveYes, please do go ahead. Thank you very much. Thank you and see you in June. [Statements in English on this transcript were spoken by an interpreter present on the live call.]
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