Infratil Limited (IFT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
February 16, 2021
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Marko Bogoievski
executiveOkay. Thank you, and good morning, everyone from Wellington, New Zealand. Marko Bogoievski, Chief Executive of Infratil Limited. I'm pleased to join everyone online today. Just a couple of quick reminders. We have got a full agenda. We obviously are going 100% virtual. We do have a facility to ask questions throughout the day. So please feel free to ask any questions at any time through the platform. And we've got Matt Ross, Mark Flesher, who'll be collating questions. The sort of format we'd like to use is to have Q&A at the end of each block. So the first hour will be myself, Jason Boyes; Incoming Chief Executive; and Phillippa Harford, our Chief Financial Officer. And then we'll progress into the energy and other businesses throughout the day. So thank you. With that, I'd like to make a start on the day. I'm going to get on to my first slide. So a couple of more formal introductions. So as I said, Chief Executive for the next 6 weeks, at least, I will be continuing in my role as Chief Executive of Morrison & Co. So I think one of the messages we're trying to communicate today is that this is a sort of a very stable transition. We've been -- if you think about it, it's been 27 years since Infratil listed, only had 2 chief executives, we're about to hand it over to a third. And I would expect it's about 2030 before we're having this conversation again with the next Chief Executive. 150 people now Morrison & Co supporting myself, Phillippa and Jason, and that's only growing as we invest to cover more sectors, more jurisdictions and to provide better support for Infratil and other clients and Morrison & Co managers. Jason Boyes will be doing just about all the communications this morning. Shortly, I'll hand it over to him. Jason has been with the firm for a long time since 2011. He's obviously worked very closely with myself and Phillippa, but the whole senior team at Morrison & Co, and he's got the whole heart of support myself and the Infratil Board. We wish him all the best, and we know we're in very good hands. And further, I guess, on the tune of stabilities, we shouldn't forget, Phillippa has been in that role for CFO for 5 years. So one of the messages, again, will be a continuation of the investment approach, which has delivered, I think, very successful outcomes over a very long period of time. But obviously, hopefully delivered with different personalities and different style. And you can judge for yourself, I guess, at the end of the day, how different. I think we're very conscious of the fact that there are some new investors to Infratil. And I think it's useful to recap what we mean by our investment approach and model. I just wanted to summarize it from my perspective. And actually, we did an interesting exercise. We looked at some of the original statements in the 1994 prospectus. So on that left-hand column there, the at inception comments are all taken out of the original prospectus. And really interesting that at the time, it was a very unique vehicle. I think one of the first listed infrastructure vehicles anywhere before infrastructure was really a defined asset class. It was designed to give both retail and institutional investors an opportunity to invest in sort of difficult-to-replicate assets and situations and the growing importance of utilities. It was about the time New Zealand was embarking on a privatization program. Clearly, that played out in other markets very successfully. And the objective was an absolute after tax total shareholder return vehicle. Clearly, we've delivered that with a combination of capital growth and yield. But it's been well-defined from the start. We've, I think, had a very consistent approach over a very long period of time, 27 years. And we're proud to be here today, right, from a $50 million initial float and a 20% investment in Trustpower to over now $8 billion invested in multiple sectors and jurisdictions with fantastic operating profile and development options in the future. $5.4 billion of equity market capitalization and strong high conviction thesis and renewables, data and connectivity, digital infrastructure and, I guess, broadly, social infrastructure. And also proud of the fact we've got over 3,500 employees now throughout our portfolio entities. Just -- I mean the purpose of this chart, I guess, I mean you all have this chart in front of you, and you don't need me to repeat it. But I think there's a couple of interesting observations. The first is that other than the sort of total return over 27 years at 18.9%, which we're proud of. I mean we're clearly today, targeting 13% to 15% total shareholder returns. And if we do our job right, each position we identify, each platform we build should have mitigated downside risk and unlimited upside potential. And generally speaking, we managed to extract the excess returns out of the upside business cases. And that's how you generate sort of 18%. Clearly, the last period has been affected by the takeover proposal by AusSuper. It's hard to ignore. I think what's important is that shaded period has also coincided with a very strong growth in underlying net asset values. Particularly in a couple of our portfolio entities. Canberra Data Centre is probably the most clearly identified portfolio entity that's growing most quickly in terms of its underlying asset values. And you saw there we recently announced an update an independent valuation of that entity in December. That hasn't stopped, right? That's an entity that's continuing to grow, and it's sort of hard to keep track of in some ways. We have in the middle now of a strategic review with Tilt Renewables. It's difficult to forecast where that process ends. But suffice to say, we're now very confident about the likely outcome of that process, and we think it will demonstrate what we mean by sort of upside potential when you present these types of platforms for sale. So even though you've got that big spike at the end, I think we know that net asset values are growing very strongly underneath that. Just one final set of thoughts before I hand it over to Jason. I mean if you think about now what -- and going away, I guess, from what share price represents, what is actually happening in shareholders' minds and Morrison & Co's minds. I mean we are deeply conscious of the fact that there is platform value in Infratil. And by that, we mean that once you have a strong view on an investment idea that if you can identify a management team and stable jurisdictions and then build credible development pipelines, that, in aggregate, creates platform value. So the ability to redeploy capital, generate excess returns and repeat it in multiple jurisdictions is, I think, what's been reflected largely in the underlying valuations. I guess what we need to be conscious of is that it's not every single infrastructure sector. So we talk a lot about a few renewable -- like renewable energy and digital infrastructure. We do that because it's a high conviction vehicle. And we do it because we're an active manager. So Morrison & Co supports these high-conviction ideas with specialists, mainly employees, but also outside parties that help us deliver asset management, real asset outcomes, and we're originating for new ideas every day. We had some very serious tailwinds, I guess, that are clearly supporting this type of business. We know that the attractiveness of infrastructure assets generally in the last period of time, particularly during interest rates declining has been hugely significant. We, as a reminder, though, are pointed at the more complex operationally demanding end of infrastructure, what core plus value-added infrastructure, where there's a premium on the ability to extract development gains and margins. And there's a premium also for, I guess, having flexible capital that is able to hold or sell or maintain position and time experts if necessary. I think -- so with that, I think it's not surprising that you get large sophisticated investors showing interest in the overall portfolio or the platform value, the ability to redeploy capital. We obviously have proposal from AusSuper in October. We think the Board responded appropriately and reasonably. We're prepared, I guess, for further activity, but I stress we've had no advice that there's anything other else on the horizon. In the meantime, I guess, our job is to continue to run the business as normal. And that's exactly what we did with the announcement of Jason Boyes, Chief Executive, come April 1 last week. And that's exactly what I'd like Jason to talk about next. You'll hear a bit more from me a bit later on.
Jason Boyes
executiveThanks, Marko. Good morning, everyone. And I'd like to start with sort of a personal thanks actually, Marko, for your support and the support of the Infratil Board in my appointment. And I think we've been working together for about a decade now, right, and I can't think of any better mentor or preparation for the role that I'll be stepping into. I think it's you and Lloyd are really hard acts to follow. But luckily, we're well positioned with a strong team that I can talk about today. So, thank you. I think it's a real shame in a lot of ways for a lot of reasons that we weren't able to celebrate your success in Auckland last night at a dinner. But I know you'll be excited to hear that we're planning a rescheduled event later in the year. So we can do that property. So good morning, everybody. I want to talk about a couple of things today. The first one is to really reaffirm our investment approach. I think that's important with a new CEO coming on board. And the second one is really to talk about how we look thinking about the outlook for the portfolio. So firstly, on investment approach, which we are summarizing on this page. As Marko said, I think one of the key things from this morning's sessions anyway is that people shouldn't expect any material change in our investment approach, being here for a decade now working on Infratil with Marko. So that shouldn't be any surprise. That means things like our target returns stay the same, our target borrowing settings, our target dividend approach, all remain materially the same. We will look to create returns by our active asset portfolio and risk management approach and using Infratil's flexible capital to do that. And what do we mean by that? It's worth digging into it a little bit. It's hard really to overstate, I think, the value of Infratil's flexible capital, which we talk about a lot, and you'll actually see it in some of the presentations today. The flexibility of our capital means that we can invest early in sectors that are less appreciated by the Infratil infrastructure investors. And you would have seen that in things like the Z Energy acquisition, but also the investment in CDC, and most recently, Qscan, which is a new sector for infrastructure investors. It should enable us to have -- we have no real fixed investment horizon or no strict yield requirements, which is a really important differentiator from other investors in this space that enables us to invest in businesses that have long-term growth outlook that might have transition risks that need to be managed. And as a real key factor in how we attracted management teams like Paul Gaynor at Longroad, you will hear from him soon. And Ingmar Wilhelm from Galileo, who are used to other types of capital that have fixed investment horizons that they see as holding them back from creating long-term value or working for strategic investors that have strategic reasons for running their businesses that are not necessarily aligned with creating long-term value. So we're not obsessed with perhaps like an industrial generator of adding megawatts to our portfolio. And perhaps we're not like a global telco company like Vodafone, who has group-wide global views on their investment business that would hold back, say, a local team from optimizing the situation in New Zealand. So I think that's really what we mean about flexible capital and why it creates or enables us to create value. The types of investments we look for have sort of 3 or 4 key characteristics within that theme. They will have a strong defensive characteristics that underwrites a return in that kind of mid- to high single digit internal rate of return range. And we saw that in CDC, for example, we got a lot of comfort from CDCs unique at the time, I think, connection to that fiber network in Canberra, but also the high costs of relocating out of their facilities. We also see it in Qscan, for example, with the scarcity of expert radiologists who provide the services they provide. So we look for those defensive characteristics. We also look for exposure to long-term growth trends, which enable us to invest capital to achieve our real target return range, which is more in that high to -- that mid- to high teens internal rate of return through investing in these things behind those long-term investment trends. And I mean you see this in Tilt as a bit of a classic with all the focus on renewable energy development. So they -- when they built the Dundonnell wind farm, they raised equity from us, which we happily contributed to. When more recently, they sold their Snowtown 2 wind farm to fund the latest development. So there's options and ways that they can reinvest capital to create that excess return. CDC clearly has a very long pipeline of data center build ahead of it. And we're able to invest new capital to help Greg and the team, say buy land like they did in Sydney or able to let him reinvest his own cash flow to build out his pipeline. And that's really the essence of what we call a platform business and why we like them so much because their ability to take capital over time because they are in sectors that are continuing to grow. The other few things we look for are scale now really. We're conscious that can't -- it needs to be meaningful in the Infratil portfolio to have an impact. And so when we look at something like Qscan, while it is a meaningful investment in absolute terms -- in relative terms to the Infratil portfolio. There's no doubt that we're keen to continue to invest in that theme to make it meaningful in what is now, as Marko said, an $8 billion portfolio. And -- but all of that means that a lot of the sectors we're in tend to be what we call ideas that matter. Sectors that have a real societal impact and role to play, and which we're really conscious of. And the last really important thing is obviously an aligned management team. So we look at businesses where we don't see that, and we are attracted to businesses where we see it, management teams that are interested in using our flexible capital essentially to create long-term value in the sectors they're in. That's a sort of a checklist. If we do our job well today, I think you'll see that characteristic in all the presentations. A couple of kind of riders to that, I think, are important to mention that we're really conscious that there's only so many sectors you can run in a portfolio before Infratil gets too complex. And that's why we're focused around the 3 sectors really, Marko talked about before, decarbonization or renewable energy, connectivity, digital infrastructure, and we call it and really social infrastructure, the latest element of that is health care. We're also confident that the flexibility of Infratil's capital was really kind of underwritten or provided by lower risk assets, Tilt's operating wind farms, Trustpower and certainly pre-pandemic Wellington Airport. And so we know we need to keep balance in the portfolio to retain that, that what we think is a competitive advantage. And we're also mindful, although we are a total return investor, we are mindful that a number of our shareholders do rely on the dividend for their own means. So we do have that in mind. I think that is all I really wanted to say. Here, there was one -- actually, other point, I think is important is we are quite conscious custodians at a lot of the assets we have. As I said, they do perform. They tend to perform an important societal role. We're mindful of the impact they have on their communities, and in particular, the impact they can have if they're managed badly. So that is at the forefront of our minds. That's hopefully on the first that I wanted to cover. Hopefully, it's really familiar territory, but I think it is worth restating with the changes coming up. And if we do our job well, you should see those characteristics across the portfolio today. I want to move to the second topic. Looking at the -- how we're looking at thinking about the outlook of the portfolio. I think key message over this couple of slides is that we are really confident about the opportunities we see ahead of us to continue to invest at attractive returns, particularly in the 3 sectors we've talked about already. So that's the key message. I think that's really important, particularly in the context of the strategic review of Tilt and Trustpower strategic review that they announced as well. We announced that strategic review around Tilt last year because of not only the interest we saw in Tilt, but also globally in quality, high-quality renewable development platforms. And as Marko said, we're really pleased that, that has now translated into what appears to be a competitive process. We don't know the outcome of that, and that's still weeks away. But you can be assured that we've been thinking in quite a lot of detail about how to reinvest those proceeds if it's decided to sell. Tilt, let me talk about that a bit more now. One of the really tricky things, if not the trickiest thing in this business is timing, when you're going to receive capital or have capital available when the investment ideas are available to invest in. One of the things, that's why we like platforms so much what I talked about before because often, the timing of your capital, you can see a long time in advance, and you have a little ability to control it. The other value, I think, of the platforms is it has enabled Morrison & Co to build world-class internal capability in these sectors, and you'll hear from some of those people speaking today. As Marko said, we're well over 100 people now. And myself, I have been spending the last 18 months working with our European team to build and open that office, which is now nearly a dozen people based in Europe. A lot of them are from Europe, and focused on European investments, including Galileo Green Energy, which you'll hear from. That gives us a much bigger lens on a much bigger market or set of opportunities in the sectors we've identified. Let me talk through a few of those now. I want to start with decarbonization, we call it on this slide or renewable energy and Trustpower. We're a big supporter of Trustpower's strategic review they announced. We don't know what the outcome of that will be either. But I think regardless, we feel that, that will give -- will result in Infratil having more flexibility around its investment in Trustpower than we may have had in the past. And I don't just mean reviewing that stake at all, I think there will be interesting opportunities for Infratil to consider increasing its investment in that space and supporting New Zealand's decarbonization efforts. That's not a decision we need to make today or tomorrow, but it's coming and we're preparing. Turning then to Longroad and Galileo. Remember, those are our businesses that build renewable energy projects, essentially wind and solar farms. In the case of Longroad in the U.S. and Galileo in Europe. I'm the Chair of both of those businesses, and you'll hear from the CEOs soon. But as we said last year around our equity raise, we see a steady stream, really, of opportunities to accelerate and scale those businesses as those really vast energy markets continue to transition their energy systems to meet their Paris Accord targets or even, in some cases, exceed them. What those opportunities look like are in a couple of areas. One thing we are seeing a lot of is opportunities to work with maybe less well-capitalized developers in those markets or developers who are missing specific capabilities needed to unlock their projects. And either work with them to develop their projects or acquire those projects off them, and you'll hear a few examples of that later on. We're also seeing opportunities and Longroad's doing this at the moment to build and market -- diversify portfolios of wind and solar farms to their long-term investors, pension funds and the like, they like to buy these, which is more attractive to them than single assets because of the diversified nature of it. But it does require Longroad to hold for a while, all or some of the projects that they're building while we build that portfolio for them. This is a couple of the opportunities we're seeing. There are obviously new technologies emerging in those markets around batteries and offshore wind that will get early exposure too through those platforms as well. The last point I wanted to make on this sector is that we're also looking at new jurisdictions to extend that successful Longroad and Galileo model. And then Vimal Vallabh, our global Head of Energy will talk about that a bit in a second as well. Let me turn to what we call on this slide connectivity or digital infrastructure. These are telecommunications assets essentially. We clearly, we're really supportive of Greg Boorer and Jason Paris' plans to grow CDC and Vodafone, respectively, and you'll hear about those later, and we expect those to throw up reinvestment opportunities. What we are working -- have been working on at Morrison & Co for some time is how can we build on the beachhead we have with those investments in other jurisdictions. That's likely to be a separate investment from those assets. But clearly, we have capability and track record that makes us credible in those spaces. We've spent a bit of time looking at global data center opportunities. And clearly, that's an incredibly hot space with a lot of capital chasing the same number of investments. What we have started seeing overseas in much bigger markets is niche is appearing in data center markets where there are players who are specializing in particular types of data centers, whether they're focused on things like high-performance computing, where customers have specific cooling and power needs or edge computing, where people need to be closer to certain locations. And we're seeing interesting opportunities emerge to partner with developers in these spaces and almost Longroad-like models, where you can provide development capital, which is hard for them to find. But large amounts of capital and not really put at risk until you are confident that the data center asset that they're looking at is able to be built out. So that's a set of opportunities we've been looking at. We've also been looking at the fiber space. These are companies that build or have large terrestrial so on land or subsea fiber networks. These businesses are really competitive as well. We have found those are really hot investment space. They -- we tend to look for market structures that give us comfort that those businesses will be able to reap the benefits or some benefits from the massive growth in traffic that they're seeing over their networks. And that was a key requirement of our investment in Vodafone last year. These investments also tend to come with large transition or transformation programs, whether that's aimed at creating a more efficient business or unlocking an ability to separate retail from wholesale and focus on network services. Those things are not for all investors as well. We are looking at the space. Again, it's very competitive, but I wanted to give you an idea of a couple of areas where we see opportunity today. Now let me stand back a little bit from that. That can all sound a bit exciting, but I wanted to reassure people that we are not throwing out a decade and more of investment discipline with this changeover. We are not going to bet the farm on any of these investments, and we're not getting ahead of ourselves on anything. I really do just want to lay out clearly the types of things we're looking at and the way we're thinking about them. So hopefully, you'll get that sense today. Okay. Just a couple of more topics to come. Phillippa, you're going to pick up Wellington Airport and RetireAustralia later on. I do want to mention quickly health care. We think this has as high potential as renewable and digital infrastructure in the long term. We're excited about our investment in Qscan and looking forward to supporting that management team. Realize their vision really of a modern, digitally enabled diagnostic imaging business. You'll hear from Paul and Chris later on. I think the presentation does a really great job of outlining the investment opportunities in that space. So I won't double up on that here. I do want to mention we continue our early research into early areas of interest. There's nothing to call out here today. But it's really important so that we can continue to position Infratil early in the areas. And it's great to see health care, which has been on these slides for a few years, right, graduate into an active sector for us. Let me wrap up my section there. If anything, just take away 2 key messages from this that there are no material changes expected in Infratil's investment approach. And we are really upbeat about our ability to continue to invest in the key sectors we've been talking about for a while, going forward at attractive returns. I think there'll be opportunity to do some questions at the end. So I'll hand over to Phillippa now who's going to talk about the composition of the portfolio.
Phillippa Harford
executiveThanks, Jason. Good morning, everybody. Nice to be here, and apologies that we're doing this fully virtual, but I'm sure we'll make the most of it. Just really following on from where Jason has been talking about how it is that we've developed these platforms and what our high conviction sort of looks like. I think looking at these pie charts, it would be easy to sort of think, well, it must be pretty straightforward to get into this position. But I think one thing that you can see through this is we've got a very heavy emphasis on renewable energy, and we've also become very well established in digital infrastructure. What that has meant really is that we've -- interestingly, if you think about the way we've evolved into that position as we started out with CDC back in 2016, that investment was about AUD 400 million. Roll forward to FY '21 and our investment in digital infrastructure from a kind of equity value point of view has now ballooned to like $2.7 billion. So to move from that has been a very purposeful move. It's not something that we undertook by accident. We acquired Vodafone in 2019. And as you're all aware, our investment in CDC has gone from strength to strength, both from a relative value perspective, but also in the investment that it's made in its data centers and the sort of significant growth that we've seen through that investment. So at the same time, though, we've added another sector into the mix. We've got the 8% that we're showing there for Qscan. We were very pleased to complete that acquisition in December. That complements what we call our social infrastructure platform, which we have RetireAustralia in, and I'll talk to that a little bit later. So really, the other thing I think I would focus on is if you went back to 2016, our main investment in renewable energy would have been Trustpower. That really has moved quite significantly in terms of the states we've got in that portfolio now. We've got Trustpower, Tilt, which Jason has spoken to earlier. We've also got Longroad, and we've also got Galileo Green Energy. So these really are very purposeful moves to think about, a, where we want to emphasize our investment and also through what geographies. So yes, the pie charts themselves look pretty simple. But then we can sort of move and think about, well, how is it that you manage that from a portfolio context. So we are very heavily weighted towards Australia and New Zealand in terms of our geographic exposure. But I think it's worth noting that the investment that we have in Longroad in the U.S., while it might look like a relatively small sliver in that pie chart, that really does not represent the amount of activity that, that team generates and the development that's underway in that platform. So it looks like a relatively small part, but there's a significant amount of activity, and Paul Gaynor will speak to that later in the day. Then you need to really switch to how it is that we manage those portfolio investments and targeting our 11% to 15% sort of 10-year average return per annum. And that also, to a degree, is an element of gymnastics. I mean it's not quite as straightforward as saying that each part of the portfolio only operates in one particular sort of target return. A good example of that would be both CDC and Tilt. They've got operating assets, which see generating more like a core, core plus return. But at the same time, they've got significant development activity, which are generating returns well in excess of that. So what we do from a portfolio perspective, as we look at those assets, we -- beg you pardon, those investments, we take a view on what that forecast position is for each asset. And then we see whether or not we're comfortable that's going to be able to generate the targeted returns that we're looking for. And as you can imagine, that also has to have regard for our capital structure. So we've got a level of wholly owned group debt through both our bank and bond facilities. We want to be able to clearly have a comfortable level of debt so that we can service that. And that needs to be able to be achieved even when we're talking about adverse capital -- beg your pardon, adverse economic cycles. So -- and I think the pandemic in the calendar year 2020 has been a good example of that, which I'll talk through a little bit later. But overall, really, what we're looking to achieve is a wholly owned good cash flow that can support that debt, support investment in those platforms and obviously provide an adequate opportunity to shareholders in terms of dividends. So I'll turn now to the next slide. And as Jason said, I'm just going to couple of briefly Wellington Airport and RetireAustralia. And the impact of the pandemic on those assets and Infratil's ability to support those assets, I think, is a very good example of the benefits of the -- both the sector and the jurisdictional diversification that we have. Really, Wellington Airport and RetireAustralia were impacted, as you would expect, quite differently by the pandemic. Wellington Airport had a significant revenue shock as the country went into a level 4 lockdown and its locked down, including, I gather, the one that's obviously going on right now has a consequential impact on the revenues of that operation. In contrast, RetireAustralia, the main focus of that business has and continues to be the health and well being of the residents in the 27 villages that we operate in Australia. And that's across various -- the 3 main states that it operates. And so it's an area of focus and it had to be rapidly moving as each state of Australia has gone in and out of lockdowns or has had hot spots. But I think overall, it's comforting to know that both of those assets have come through the first sort of 9 months of FY '21, really in a way that is much better than any of us, I think, would have expected. In the case of RetireAustralia, that sector has actually had resales demand that's now outstripping what we saw in FY '20. And we are now forecasting that the resales within that group will be actually more than the FY '21 sales of 300. So that's a great place for us to be. But I think overall, it's also commendable that we've managed to navigate that period without a single COVID outbreak or case of COVID within those communities. And when I look at Wellington Airport and reflect on the way in which that business has met the challenge. Clearly, there's had to be a significant amount of cost cutting and CapEx curtailment, while we had to reassess the sort of capital outlook for that business. But to never let a crisis go amiss, we've also had a look at what the opportunities might be to grow capacity in a post-COVID world and what new routes the airport could be exploring. I think it's fair to say that airlines all around the world will be relooking at their activities, and Wellington Airport wants to make sure that it's well placed to respond to that where it can. But at the same time, we've also done things like taking the opportunity to resurface the runway while the international passenger traffic -- beg your pardon, airline traffic hasn't been there in the kind of late hours of the evening, which is what we're normally accustomed to in Wellington. So we still got a little bit to go in terms of weathering this pandemic. But I think -- so we're not making any assumptions in that regard. But it is really pleasing to see how both of those investments have responded. And also interesting to see that neither have required the capital commitments that Infratil and it's co-shareholders had committed to at the beginning. So generally, a good position there. So really following on from that, I'll just go back to our FY '21 guidance. So you may recall that we initially issued guidance around the time of our half year result that had been a little bit later than usual, given the ongoing impacts of COVID and the uncertainty that they presented. The guidance that we provided at the half year was $430 million to $470 million, and we're now narrowing that range slightly to $440 million to $470 million. That also includes a 3-month contribution from Qscan. So -- and we've also just noted the guidance -- the components of the guidance at the 100% level. So you can see the -- what the larger contributions to that guidance range are. Then I wanted to just also provide a bit of an update on incentive fees. You may recall that we initially made an accrual of incentive fees as part of our half year. And then with the revaluation of our investment in CDC, which occurred at December 31, we also updated that guidance to an accrual of an incentive fee of $147 million. Now what we noted at the time was that we had not updated our assessment of performance fees in relation to Tilt Renewables. As Jason has spoken to, we're well underway with our strategic review of our investment in Tilt. So as at December 31, we really didn't take a position on that. What we've got to is that the Infratil independent directors in Morrison & Co are going to agree an undisturbed valuation for their investment in Tilt Renewables. And that undisturbed valuation will be applied so the purposes of determining the annual incentive fee accrual at March 31, 2021. Now the rationale for that approach is, as you can appreciate, we've got a strategic review, which is well underway. It is very unlikely and probably not an achievable feat in anyone's terms to complete this -- any transaction if it was to occur by 31 March of this year. As you'll appreciate, there's very likely to be regulatory approvals required for that. And we don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves in terms of any expectation of -- or assumption of how that transaction will proceed. So on that basis, we've taken the view and discussed with the independent directors that the best approach is ahead of this undisturbed valuation. And we'll provide more information on that as we get closer to year-end. So then really, just to note that, as you'd expect, the balance of the international assets that are eligible for incentive fees will be undertaking an independent valuation at March 31. And again, that's just a usual cost, as you've seen in recent years. So then just really a final slide for me and a look at our debt capacity and liquidity. We actually have had quite a lot of activity in the last 6 months. We completed the acquisition of Qscan, which all but applied the equity raise that we had undertaken at June 30. We've also opened a tap issue of our Infratil 300 bonds. The first close of that actually went quite well. We were very pleased with the surface sort of $50 million that we raised on that in December, and that bond remains open. We've also just completed a refinancing of a $32 million bank facility, which was maturing this month, and we're well underway with our discussions on the next bank maturity, which is forecast for June. So really all up where that leaves us is probably where we expected to be, even on a pre-Qscan basis, we've got available debt facilities of $338 million at the wholly owned group. And given the movement in our market cap over the last few months, we've also now shifted to a gearing level of a relatively lower threshold of sort of 24%. Just really speaking to what that means for us. That does mean that we do have capital that we can apply to meet our existing commitments and to support those new platforms. We clearly need to be mindful of the way in which we deploy that capital so that we can manage our debt position prudently. But we've got a good forecast view on that, and we see that as giving us the flexibility that we need at this stage. So I think that's about it for me now, and I'll pass it back to you, Jason -- or is it Marko?
Marko Bogoievski
executiveYes.
Phillippa Harford
executiveGood, here you go.
Marko Bogoievski
executiveSo thank you, Phillippa. Thank you, Jason, for that, I think, pretty tight summary of Infratil's current position, model and the way we are thinking about our future prospects, both of our existing platforms and also our ability to originate new ideas. I mean I said at very start that our job is to focus on business as usual, notwithstanding interest from external parties. I think you can hopefully appreciate business as usual for us is actually relatively complex exercise. It requires a huge amount of thought and planning and trust in our sort of senior executive teams inside the portfolio entities. And you're going to see that when you hear them talk later in the day. We've also got a strong Morrison & Co team behind Phillippa and Jason and myself. Vimal Vallabh, who will introduce Energy business -- our global Head of Energy-based in Auckland, but soon to be based in Europe when the circumstances allow. Paul Newfield, our Head of ANZ business based in Sydney. He's going to talk to you about the health care opportunity in Qscan, in particular. And Will Smales also based in Sydney, our new Global Head of Private Markets. He'll be talking to you about digital infrastructure, and introducing Greg Boorer and Jason Paris. So for us, I mean that last slide talks about a unique portfolio. I mean I know that there are -- you will be sitting on this call thinking, okay, what exactly is unique about it? And how do you value it? I think some of the unique aspects are about the consistency and investment approach since 1994. Obviously, the ability to generate high absolute returns. The uniqueness, I think, is that in the real asset environment, the combination of quality management, access to capital and real credible near-term development pipeline creates a lot of financial value and economic upside for businesses like us and for shareholders alike. I think what's been unique, perhaps has been the ability to actively manage that portfolio. So today, we have, I think, quite a nice balance of core defendable, predictable cash flows, particularly in our New Zealand businesses and strong growth prospects, which tend to be largely in our international markets. But that balance changes over time. And even with the review that's happening right now with Tilt or the review that's happening with the retail base and Trustpower, we would constantly check and perform scenario tests on what the portfolio looks like post those sort of outcomes. So there's a rebounding that happens all the time. It's a very actively -- so not only are the assets actively managed, by real asset experts, but also the portfolio is actively managed, both on the capital structure and on the balance of risk between core+ and development profiles. We are benefiting, I think, from being in the right place at the right time, but probably could have said that at any stage over the last 10 or 15 years, right? So this is an extended period of time where societies, at least every developed and developing market is requiring access to infrastructure capability and capital. So if we talked about nothing else but greenfield requirements for infrastructure, we would fill our boots, I think, with applying our capital and our people to the best set of greenfield ideas and whether that was working with public entities, local and central governments or not. I think we would be confident about deploying capital against the greenfield opportunity. The reality is today, it's dominated still by trading of brownfield assets. And that's particularly as brownfield assets or existing real assets work their way through different risk profiles from development assets to core+ exposures to, I guess, enhanced core exposures. And again, any real business, real asset business with people, with regulators, with competitors, with growth prospects, with threats and opportunities, provided they're in a decent industry structure, I think we're confident again of being competitive in those sort of market opportunities. And we're confident because it requires active capability. And I think we've all heard about the wall of capital and infrastructure. But what you don't -- there's not a wall of investment managers. It's a very thin market when you get into operationally complex and development type assets and exposures, particularly in certain sectors like renewables. And I think digital infrastructure today, Infratil would stand out as a principal investor globally. One final set of thoughts before we ask for Q&A. And again, as a reminder, please pass-through questions if you do have questions at this stage at some high-level portfolio analysis before we get into the individual assets. I mean we've -- back to just one final set of comments around the takeover proposal. I mean we were heartened as a group by the response from retail and institutional investors. And so just to be clear, this is a process that's run by Mark Tume, the Chair of the Board and the independent directors, not Morrison & Co. But I think the Infratil independent directors and a large proportion of our investor base buys the fact this a unique portfolio that is incredibly valuable, particularly when you look out into the future. And their ability to redeploy and continue to generate excess returns demonstrates that there's a material undervaluation, I think, potentially of what this set of assets and these sets of ideas are actually worth. We are crystal clear that in making that statement, we are on the hook for demonstrating that value in the future. So make no doubt about -- we are clear that, that is the case. And we could not be more confident that we can demonstrate that value and that we can redeploy capital above our hurdles and above your hurdles, even more importantly. So I think that's important to emphasize. We're not taking these sort of approaches lightly. As I said earlier, we have no idea what is planned next. Our job is to actually focus on maximizing the performance of our individual assets and to optimize the portfolio. And hopefully, you'll hear that today. And just one final message from me. I mean I appreciate the comments from Jason. As I said earlier, I could not feel more confident either of the person I'm handing the Chief Executive role over to. So Jason, with strong intellectual background, I think, complete and thorough understanding of the portfolio and the full support of the Morrison team and Board, it's got great things to look forward to. So with that, we should take some questions. I know we've got a little bit of time. What have you got there Flesh?
Mark Flesher
executiveWe've got 10 minutes, just under 10 minutes before we move onto the businesses themself. So good morning, everyone. If you do have questions, you could submit them online. And even if you've got questions around some of the businesses late in the day, we're going to collect those and have prepared some through already, which is helpful. So maybe if I just keep it at a high level, we've got a couple of questions. First off, and maybe I'll direct the first one to Phillippa is around Tilt. And if you could explain what an undisturbed valuation is?
Phillippa Harford
executiveYes, sure. Thanks, Mark. So yes, really, we have thought about this, but the concept of an undisturbed valuation is to really try to think about what the value of Tilt was prior to the announcement of the strategic review. I think if you talk -- and there was not necessarily a science to that. So there will be an element of valuations by themselves though as much are not exactly a science in themselves anyway. So -- but the idea is to try to capture the value of Tilt to reflect the progress that it had made since our half year announcement. So clearly, Tilt itself is not so still. It's made significant progress with its Rye Park. It announced that Dundonnell had got 2 full -- beg you pardon, to full production. And more recently, it even announced the completion of its Waipipi turbines. So really, what we are saying is that we do want to reflect the values that demonstrates the progress that Tilt has made. But not necessarily with the overlay of what is a very live strategic review and which may or may not culminate in the realization of that investment. So just to be clear, what that means is that Tilt Renewables will need to be assessed as part of the annual incentive fee at March 31, 2021. That is what the undisturbed valuation will be used for. The consequences of that is that, that fee is payable in 3 tranches. And in the event that a realization subsequently occurs, then there will be a -- effectively a washup being the difference between the March 31 valuation and any final sales price to determine the realization incentive fee.
Mark Flesher
executiveGreat. Sorry, that was Phil Campbell from UBS. A question from Nevill Gluyas from Jarden. So if the Tilt process resulted in a sale, would Infratil reinvest focus for those proceeds beyond the existing platforms or use them as an opportunity to seek to invest in one or more other sectors identified, so Marko. .
Marko Bogoievski
executiveYes. The -- it's -- you can run the math, right, on potential sale of Tilt proceeds, they're significant. I think Phil Campbell and his recent report had them in excess of $1.5 billion, and that's, I think, a reasonably conservative starting point. So we recognize that quantum of capital is significant. And as I said earlier, in both my presentation and heard from Jason, we're confident we can deploy it. Its existing platforms can always be accelerated. And particularly in some of those scaled markets like United States and Europe, where there is no shortage of opportunities, I think you'll hear from Paul Gaynor and Ingmar, and there's no doubt you can deploy that capital. I think closer to some of the new areas like digital infrastructure, this is probably the fastest-growing financial subsector of infrastructure. And both 5G data centers, terrestrial and submarine cable investments, progressing at significant rates across just about all developed and developing markets. So I like the sort of the idea that Jason was referring to that you can identify a market with decent industry structure and a management team that can create sort of a Longroad spot vehicle for deploying capital into further digital infrastructure. So yes, we'd be really confident. I think Jason?
Jason Boyes
executiveYes. We mean to that. I agree?
Mark Flesher
executiveThank you. A wealth adviser question here to direct to Phil. You mentioned in the overview around to pick up an activity in RetireAustralia, what's driving that?
Phillippa Harford
executiveYes. So we think that actually what's driving that is the residents or our potential residents have actually been very heartened by the responses within that sector. And I think RetireAustralia is an excellent example of that. So what it means is that really contrary to what many sort of pundits might have thought at the beginning of the pandemic rather than it creating challenges for that sector, people have actually looked at retirement villages is safe havens, is communities where they can feel supported. So the way that, that's translated is effectively a significant increase in inquiries, a lot more deposits being placed on. And I think this is really consistent with what we've seen in the New Zealand sector as well. So that's what I mean by an uptick in the activity. The other thing to draw out on that is, it shouldn't be lost that they've had to respond to that increased demand at a time when they're also having to go in and out of various hotspots within Australia. So it is commendable that they've been able to reach those resales that they have, but also keep the residents safe.
Mark Flesher
executiveOkay. Just a follow-up question for you, Jason, and it's on a few people's minds. Just wondering if you could give an update on what you expect the Tilt's timetable might be or whether you had any indication on the status of that?
Jason Boyes
executiveI think we expect to have a solid update on that before the end of our financial year. That's what we can give you.
Matthew Ross
executiveSo this one is a bit of a deeper dive then. And it's a specific question on how Infratil can add value in AI and robotics, which is probably a sub-point on one of the slides, but perhaps an intro to how you see Infratil investing in next-generation infrastructure or emerging markets as we have done?
Jason Boyes
executiveYes. It's a good question, and Matt's been on that slide for quite a while now, right, which I think really reflects that we've continued early research in those sectors for quite a while. We have actually invested -- there's a reference on that slide to Clear Vision, which is a sort of a venture capital fund, which was looking at the infrastructure applications of new technologies based out of San Francisco and it's actually had quite a good investment in EV charging, but has been a hard, I think, harder, I think, in that kind of AI space to find the right investment model there, where our capital could be useful. So I think it's a good question, and that's kind of almost exactly what we're looking for in those new sectors as where is a business model that can benefit from our capital. And to be fair to say, I don't think we've seen it in that kind of AI robotics here. Except in one area, which really is in the data center business and energy is an offshoot. We're seeing measured volume uptick in those data centers in some cases, driven by sort of cloud architecture behind some of these AI applications, which then also requires power that we're seeing in the U.S. turning into revenue contracts for our wind farms and solar farms. So that's kind of the extent of our exposure at the moment, but we'll keep them looking.
Mark Flesher
executiveThanks, Jason. A follow-up question for you. Any planned changes in running in Infratil despite no change in strategy?
Jason Boyes
executiveNo. No planned changes in running Infratil at the moment. I think, hopefully, there will be more opportunity, obviously, later in the year to talk a little bit about -- to observe a little bit about our kind of personal style. I think we are doing quite a bit more work around our responsible investment approach, and we're hoping later in the year to talk in a more structured way about something that's part of our DNA, but we know that's professionalizing a lot in our space.
Mark Flesher
executiveThank you. That brings us probably at the end of the high-level questions. We've got a number of comments here about the businesses, which we might cover off as we go through each of those businesses and hear from the CEOs. So thank you for those questions.
Mark Flesher
executiveSo we now move to the next stage of the presentations where we're going to hear from firstly, the heads of each of our areas of Morrison & Co do a quick introduction into [pharmatics ] and why we think they're important, and then we're going to follow in the first sessions with -- around renewables. So I'd like to introduce Vimal Vallabh, who's our global Head of Energy here at Morrison & Co. Some of you will know him. We're lucky to have him in New Zealand at the moment. He spent the last few years traveling the globe and he's been very instrumental in the establishment of Longroad and more lately, Galileo and as Marko said, he will be relocating to Europe to assist with that. So welcome, Vimal.
Vimal Vallabh
executiveThank you, Mark, and good morning to everybody. It's a pleasure to be here today and to talk to you about a sector that's very close to my heart, renewable energy. Maybe if we can turn to the first slide. Renewables, Morrison & Co has been in the renewable sector for 27 years, starting with its investment in Trustpower. And it represents a lot of early thinking for the business and quite a strong component of our renewables business. Renewables does present one of the largest investment opportunities I think we're going to see in our lifetimes with an expectation of at least $4 trillion over the next decade being put into the space around the world. And it's pretty hard not to get excited about what that means for investors to take advantage of these opportunities that markets are producing. And I don't think we've seen anything like this in the energy sector for at least a century. With the transformation that oil had on society at the turn of the 20th Century, I would equate this to the -- to that and the seismic impact that it's going to have. We'd been fortunate to be in this space early and benefit from some of the tailwinds that the sector has experience, particularly over the last 5 or 6 years as the impact of climate change becomes more embedded in the social fabric that we operate within. But also the importance that renewables plays in energy security for a lot of countries and the improvement in geopolitical risk that, that represents. It has also, over the last 20 years that I've been involved in it had quite a change in the economics. And it has become an economic imperative for a lot of countries. And the marginal cost of supply for particularly wind and solar is now in many markets, competing with traditional sources of energy generation or electricity generation. But we're also seeing a seismic shift in the use of NG in the sector with movements to electrification, with transportation, with heating, and a lot of industrial processes. And all these factors combined give us these tailwinds with governments reacting and responding accordingly. But one thing to recognize about the sector is that a lot of these changes are happening over time. Different markets will transform at different speeds and with different levels of conviction, and we see quite a lot of contrast across the world as we make this move. We began building our platforms in the sector back in 2016. With a view very much to allow us to look across multiple markets and invest in multiple markets simultaneously. And keep capital in these markets at any -- access these markets at any particular point in time. And one thing we did know going into these markets is how do we differentiate our capital and what was becoming a competitive landscape. And I think Jason talked about this earlier with regards to our flexible capital. And if I apply that principle to what we've done in renewables, we very much focus on deploying capital in its most optimum form across the value chain for renewables. But that also equates to different technologies, different geographies and different life cycles. And that allows us to optimize the returns that we get from the capital that's been put into these sectors, but it also allows our management teams to focus on development and not necessarily also look for capital, equity capital for their projects. And so we've been very fortunate in partnering with some of the leading executives and management teams in our respective markets. You'll hear from Paul Gaynor, who has been in the sector for over 20 years. And Ingmar, who's been in the energy sector for over 30 years, both with deep experience in renewables and leaders in their respective geographies they cover. So we've been very fortunate to have done that. We also, as Jason talked about, participated in Tilt, and we've seen the benefits of that journey that Tilt's had over the last 4, 5 years. And we've taken a lot of those learnings and apply them to our other platforms as we work closely as they build that out. We're now turning our attention to Asia, which is quite an exciting market for different reasons. It has a strong growth characteristic to it. Less dependence on decarbonization and more about populations getting electricity. And I -- it's quite an exciting time for us to be expanding into that geography. So I'd like to hand over to Ingmar to talk about Galileo in Europe and the renewables that's happening in that space. And Ingmar.
Ingmar Wilhelm
attendeeYes. Thank you very much, Vimal. It's really a pleasure to be speaking to you this morning here from Paris. My name is Ingmar Wilhelm, I'm CEO of Galileo Green Energy. And this is the platform that I'm so happy we've put in place just a year ago together with the team of Morrison. Now what is this platform about? It is effectively targeting very large market, the whole of Europe. And here we are at the start of a new chapter. Why? Because renewables are just about to shift from an add-on energy to become the mainstream technology solution for our energy mix. And on top of that, and of course, further accelerating this transition is the fact, as Vimal said, that the energies, the technologies are effectively now becoming cost-competitive. So it is no longer a question whether they will enter the mix because incentives are needed, but they are now really competitive and are at an even level to the prevailing prices on the market. Now in order to tap into this opportunity, it requires specific competencies. And this is what we are building, Galileo Green Energy on. We are convinced that there is a specific mix of competencies that will allow us to fully unlock the potential and participate in this very, very large market. After 1 year that we are working on the platform, Galileo Green Energy, I think it is fair to say that we are now addressing the first level of diversification, both in terms of markets and in terms of technologies, and I'm very happy now to introduce you to this large opportunity. On the first page, you can see -- yes, the main themes that I would like to share with you, Europe as a market and renewables playing in it, our investment thesis and also our positioning in that market. What we have achieved after 1 year? And what are the development perspectives going forward? Renewable energies, as you can see on the following page, do cover all 4 key parameters for a good energy mix. They are secure; they are affordable now because they're competitive; they are widely accepted by the people across Europe and no doubt about it, they are very sustainable as well. Europe is a large market, 500 million people. There are over 30 countries so we are speaking about geographical Europe. It is the European Union, yes, but it is also the U.K. It is also Switzerland. It is Norway and a couple of additional countries from Eastern Europe. The power market is over 3,000 terawatt hours large. There are 300 million customers overall and roughly 20% of them are business customers. Policy is, of course, a driving force. We started almost 20 years ago ahead of many continents. The European was convinced that there was something to be done about the emissions. And yes, it has led to agreement that we all know of. So there is very strong support from the policy agenda of the European Union. Fair to say that in terms of regulation, so the translation of EU policy into state laws and then into regional laws, sometimes there is a bit further streamlining to be done. However, the performance of the overall market is a good -- is at a good level. Now we have increased our targets for the year 2030 to reductions as large as 55% compared to 1990 before that level was 40%. And therefore, if we now take these new targets as our aim then we are effectively undersupplying new projects. And so in this market, there is a rate of growth that you can see on the next page, a rate of growth of renewables. On the left-hand side, you see the green part of these bars, the green part is representing the renewable energies in the European power mix. And their share is foreseen to increase by roughly 100 terawatt hours of additional energy to be produced every year until the end of this decade. And currently, in 2020, we added across 50 terawatt hours, so half of this amount. It is clear that much more needs to be done. And again, this is, of course, an opportunity for people like ourselves. Translating this into capacities, this is what you see on the right-hand side. There are roughly 500 gigawatts of new renewable capacities necessary in order to come up with the objective to reach 55% of reduction in terms of emissions. In order to unlock this potential, this very large potential, we need competencies. And this is what Galileo Green Energy is about right from the start. You can see it on the following page. Participating in this market requires, first of all, that the projects you develop are competitive projects because you no longer can make reference to an incentive level somewhere, but you're exposed to a competitive environment, be that because you are participating in an auction, or be it because you are competing in front of an energy consumer with your power purchase proposal. Commercialization, and I already mentioned it, is the second component. Not only do we need to be good developers, we need to be good marketeers, salespeople of our product. And this understanding of clients, again, is something that is not common to, would say the developers of the last decade. The commercial attitude and the understanding of an energy profile and what it takes to supply fully a client, this is the second competence that we are building here at Galileo Green Energy. Thirdly, because the production profile of renewables is evidently different from most of the consumption profiles of consumers, you need to be able to manage the position on the energy market. Energy management is, therefore, the third competence that we are building. And as the offtake solution, again, is not a 20 years state-guaranteed offtake scheme, but it is now a mixture of a PPA of a certain tenor, perhaps a second PPA of another tenor, different price formulas to certain exposure also to the underlying energy market, and therefore, the financing of these types of offtake solutions is again something that requires attention and innovation. And these 4 competencies are the pillars on which we are building Galileo Green Energy. Now there are, of course, competitors, and you could say, well, they are doing similar things, in particular, the utilities. Well, that is true. However, it is also fair to say that in this condense way and applying these competencies swiftly to specific opportunities. So because of a combination of speed of action, and an entrepreneurial approach, I think we are well placed to compete with utilities. Likewise, we are well placed to compete with the sector specialists, which are normally developers covering well past the first part, competitive development, but not the other competencies that we see in the mix, and this is how we position ourselves. And this is also the basis on which we have then grounded our investment thesis that you see on the following page. Value creation through a competence driven and fast-moving development of flexibly financed projects. We are concentrating on greenfield projects, in an expanding market that has to come from the 50 terawatt hours of today to 100 terawatt hours per year. We mitigate our risks through geographies and technologies. And this mix is very valid. There are over 30 countries that we can invest into. There are at least 4 technologies that are part of our mix, mature technologies that is solar PV, wind onshore, wind offshore and also storage. All 4 are part of our mix. And this combination of countries and technologies is, in fact, the best mitigation strategy against risks that you may have in one specific country or situation. Now on this thesis, we're building a pan-European multi-technology renewable energy developer. We are also foreseeing to own some of the plants and to operate them. We will be applying our competencies, I think, that is evident. And then we will be delivering competitive green energy solutions, in particular, also to customers, right? So there will be outstanding in the market because they have been accepted by clients as a viable long-term solution for their energy needs, green energy needs, of course in our specific case. And this is then the basis to realize superior returns, and we do that in particular because we enter into attractive situations early on. So the early to mid-stage phases of project development, this is where we are concentrating most of our efforts. What have we done to put this conviction to work? You can see this as an overview on the following page. At the start, we were -- yes for investors, one name for the company, I would say, a little bit Jason and myself. And so we created Galileo Green Energy almost exactly 1 year ago, with a capital commitment for development of EUR 220 million. Evergreen Capital that is supporting an open-ended renewable energy development and investment business. And we've put our headquarter in Zurich and our operational headquarter into Milano. 1 year after, we are already 16 people, 11 are working on the platform company. 5 people have already been hired by the joint ventures. We have put in place, in the meantime, there are 4 joint development agreements and effectively 2 joint ventures. The total pipeline is now above 1 gigawatt. We are addressing already 4 markets: Ireland to start with, then Sweden and the United Kingdom. And recently, we also added 2 joint development agreements in Italy. Currently, I mean during this day, we were having negotiations for opportunities in the other large markets, evidently the 6 most important markets in terms of size are on top of the agenda for us, and that is in addition to Italy and United Kingdom, I have already mentioned, France, Germany, Poland and Spain. The technology mix are already highlighted this. And yet it is a small team, but the combination of competencies, I think we've been able to find on the market and through our networks is quite compelling. There are 6 senior people now on the management team of Galileo Green Energy, and you see them for the Snapshot and a nice photograph on the following page. We did these photos in our offices in Milano, by the way. And yes, the team just to give you an idea, there are over 120 years of relevant energy and investment experience united. These 6 people together have developed and put into operation roughly 10 gigawatts of renewable power plants in the world in over 20 countries. And we are just some light on a couple of my colleagues, Nikolaus Mainka, he was CFO of the company of Enerparc from Germany, but operating in the U.S. for many years. Paolo Grossi, he was Managing Director of Innogy, and therefore, RWE in Italy, Eduardo Gonzalez Sola, he is evidently Spanish. He was in charge of Global Commercial Origination for Acciona. Luigi Canelli, he comes from Enel. He was global Head of Distributed Power Solutions for Enel. And Filippo Chiesa, he was leading M&A at a variety of very remarkable players in the renewable space. So I think there's some great talent and track record coming together with very complementary competencies and with a deep and long-standing network and this is what is, of course, helping us into the market. And you can see on the following page, before joint development agreements that we have been able to put in place over the last year to start with 1 in Ireland, called EMP. Our share is 50%. Our partners are a local developer and investors. The global wind turbine manufacturer. We've then put in place also GGE Nordics, our share is 80%. Again, we teamed up with a local developer and are concentrating on sites in Scotland and in mid-Sweden. And the last 2 are TEN Project and Star Energie. TEN Project is a wind pipeline in the south of Italy, with a very renowned -- very local but very renowned wind develop and Star Energy is about a 100-megawatt solar PV pipeline, again, with an entrepreneur, having done -- having develop our plants, renewable power plants already. One specific example I would like to share with you, and this is now depicted on the following pages about GGE Nordics. So here, you see there's a 1,000 megawatt wind pipeline that we are working on in these 2 markets. We foresee to have at least 5 onshore wind projects in each market. I should mention that there are very good wind conditions in Scotland and in Sweden. I think that we will see Sweden clearly as the cost leader in terms of wind power generation across Europe, presumably, together with Spain. However, the size of projects you can build in Sweden is outstanding across the whole of Europe. We're about to staff the teams there. We already hired 3 people. We will be adding an additional 6 to 8 people until the end of the year. And the total development cycle will require a spend of roughly EUR 60 million. And if you then say there's a 50% OE probability of success on the projects that we address. And of course, we develop them from early-stage onwards, then the cash-on-cash multiple that we are looking to realize with a joint venture of this kind is in the order of magnitude 4x. You see this on this very schematic graph that you see bottom right, how the value of a project is increasing over time. And of course, if you enter and you're capable of entering that project origination and then early stage and develop the project until late-stage final authorization. Finally, you build it, you have agnostic solution. You even operate it, then, of course, you're reaching the highest level of capital appreciation. And this is exactly the business model of Galileo Green Energy. So run this cycle and run it for many projects, different technologies in different countries at scale. Doing many of these joint development agreements and joint ventures, will, of course, lead to a substantial growth that is now shown to you on the following page, we foresee to ramp up our capacity of identifying and bringing it to final investment decision of 300 to 500 megawatts per year. This translates into an investment potential of roughly EUR 300 million to EUR 500 million per year. That is not all up for own investment. We can very flexibly deal with these opportunities. There's a deep market, an undersupplied market, and over -- a capital oversupplied market and a project undersupply market. So there will be very attractive opportunities also to sell down some of them to the market. We will achieve this building on a pipeline of about 10 gigawatts of quality projects that we are targeting for the year 2025. And the, yes, approximate repetition of technologies will be half of that will presumably be solar, another 3 gigawatts will be onshore. There will be a couple of offshore projects as well, and last but not least, we will also address in specific markets. And I think, also combined with offtake solutions for client's storage investments as well. I think we will be going for a country mix of over 10 countries, effectively, quickly, and achieve all of that with a team that is concentrated in terms of key competencies at Galileo with 50 people and then levered by 7 partners and 4 developers where I think we will finally be working with over 150 additional people. Equally important are the qualitative attributes, and this is what you can see here on the last page of my presentation. We are energy guys. We have done development. We have invested, and this is where we are coming for -- from. We love to create projects and implement green energy solutions. I mean, we are driven by that. We are convinced of that. We have a passion for this business. And I can say this honestly, for every single member of my team. How do we do it? As I said before, we do it not only on with our own competencies, but we are leveraging the competencies of our key partners. And there are 3 segments of partners, the development partners that is evident, but also the offtake partners, I speak of them as partners because we will see them linked to our projects and perhaps into portfolios of projects over a long period of time. And finally, we've also seen local communities hosting the plants as our partners. So integrating them and paying attention to their needs, I think, is equally important in order to raise public acceptance to the highest level and make the plants operating over a very long period of time. Last but not least, I think we are trying, I think, very credibly to build a number of principles among the team. Of course, we are responsible people taking care of resources and of one another in a good way. We work transparently. We absolutely want to be swift because this is a key differentiation criteria on the market. And we want to take the full benefit of casual diversity, which is a key element when you work across 30 countries and yet stand up as one united team. Thank you very much for your attention, and I think it's now time for a couple of questions. Thank you, again.
Mark Flesher
executiveThanks very much, Ingmar. And thanks for joining us at what's close to midnight your time. I've had a good level of Q&A, which I think reflects the interest that people have in this platform. To kick it off, could you give us a little bit more context just around the political environment and climate around renewables in Europe?
Ingmar Wilhelm
attendeeOf course, the political backing of renewables has increased over the years. And I would say it has never been as high as it is today. And that is effectively an easy statement because of 3 reasons. First of all, we have now brought, in particular, the Europeans with massive incentives that we deployed over last, in particular, 15 years. We have now helped the technologies through the development cycle to become competitive. And of course, now it is somewhat evident that we should be -- start to harvest also what we've invested over the last 15 years. So there is an economic consideration to start with. Secondly, we are, of course, convinced that the threat of climate change is real. There is even in the -- if you go -- if you ask for -- ask this question to, yes, the people industry, normally, you find 80% of the people backing the development. So there is a substantial support for this type of policy also among the electorate in many, many countries. And thirdly, I think we have now also found a combination of actors. And I mean, by that, the developers, the people building the plants, the equipment manufacturers, of course, the financiers, right, the banking sector. We've also very much activated the long term holding, right, opportunity for long-term oriented capital also in Europe, of course. And I think, yes, this combination of stakeholders is equally supporting the opportunity of we are doing more in that space. Now it is true, but there is also a, say, threat. Threat is that the translation from policy into regulation does not come at the speed that we are requiring in order to reach the 2030 targets. But here, I would say that it is a -- yes, the solution will not be the projects of the larger size. So this is what still certain people think that, well, simply increase the economies of -- or simply increase the size therefore, benefit from economies of scale, and then everything is doable. I don't think that this is the right solution for a continent that is made up of so many countries, of so many borders where we would need new transmission lines in order to evacuate all of the power. I'm a firm believer of, yes, the medium and also small, small-to-medium-sized utility-scale power plants that we can build across the full spectrum of geographies. And this type of plant, I think, will also be -- can be easy -- easier in the authorization process. And therefore, we'll make the bulk of the new additions going forward. So if that is a fair answer to your question. There are presumably others.
Mark Flesher
executiveYes. One of the questions that we have come up quite often and has come up again in relation to this platform. It'd be good to have your views on what the impact of investment or increased investment in hydrogen might have on Galileo?
Ingmar Wilhelm
attendeeYes. So I'm -- yes, in this energy business now for many years. And I've seen quite a few technologies coming up and going away as well. Now hydrogen is really on top of the agenda. And this is fascinating because it is still a not mature technology. It is not a competitive technology. However, many people are thinking about it. How does it -- what is the place for hydrogen? If we want to fully decarbonize the energy mix of our countries, we need an energy vector. So we need an energy that will help us to do sector coupling, and by that, we mean cover also the energy demands from, in particular, transportation and heating. And we know of the seasonality of renewables. So the energy vector could do exactly that, bring the energy from the peak hours of production of be it solar, be it wind to valleys of production just by storing it in a certain way. And equally by transforming renewable power into another energy vector, we might unlock also the green energy potential in transportation and in heating. So there is ample space for an energy vector. The technology that today is #1 set in order to become our energy vector is effectively hydrogen. So the place is absolutely there, and the technology that is currently, say, most discussed, most researched and to a certain extent on the way to be analyzed at what conditions it could enter the market is effectively hydrogen. So it is important to us. We won't see an impact early on. But during this decade, it will certainly come. We have already received several ideas from large companies wanting to team up with developers in order to think about the kind of projects that would be needed renewable projects, the sizes, the right sites, and therefore, the right countries in order to think of renewable generation at the next level of scale. So I'm seeing it. I think there is an opportunity. It will not be too early, but over this decade, it's certainly something that we will be addressing. And most probably, together with partners, also in order to share the risk that is then related to the development of such very large sites.
Mark Flesher
executiveThanks, Ingmar. A couple of quick specific questions just to round out the last couple of minutes. Are you able just to give us a little bit more detail about when you talk about the cash-on-cash multiple and how you see that in terms of your development projects?
Ingmar Wilhelm
attendeeYes. The...
Mark Flesher
executiveSorry, I'll just clarify and just around how you kind of calculate that cash-on-cash multiple at a high level?
Ingmar Wilhelm
attendeeYes. Well, it is -- let's assume we bring a project to full authorization or even better to commercial start of operations. Then we find an appreciation of the project by capital that is long-term oriented and therefore, thanks to the predictability of the cash flows of the project, particularly efficient. And when we then calculate the development premium that we can realize through the proceeds of the sale of such a project, and we simply divide it by the capital that we have laid out in order to build the project, by the way, including attrition rate. Because you can calculate the cash-on-cash for a specific project. You do it properly, if you finally do it with the consideration of the pipeline, therefore, covering also attrition rate that you might have. Then you come up with multiples that are in the range of 3, 4, 5, sometimes even higher. There are markets today where the multiples are even at 8x or more, simply because there are not many projects coming to market. And therefore, the appreciation of these projects is, particularly pronounced. Now this is volatile. It is dynamic in each market. It has to do with demand and supply of quality projects. It also has to do with the long-term power price scenarios that the people make reference to. But my confident view is that there is substantial value creation possible for all of the 4 technologies I mentioned and for many markets that we are targeting. So I'm confident that we will be playing this development capital value accretion opportunity very, very successfully. Of course, it is our objective to enter early on. So greenfield development is at the heart of our strategy. And you see it, right? The long-term oriented capital is effectively coming in from the investment into operating assets. This is now a, I would say, consolidated market. And therefore, this capital is now moving on to the project at COD, sometimes projects that are just authorized. So this capital is taking some more risk, and therefore, the appreciation of these development levels is increasing on the market. We are well advised to concentrate on early to mid-stage projects contribute -- competencies increase or improve the parameters of the project, in particular authorize them, find a suitable and viable long-term offtake solution, build it, finance it, and then bring it to the market. This is how value accretion is realized going forward.
Mark Flesher
executiveThanks very much. We might leave it there, but thank you for the great insight into what is obviously an exciting opportunity, obviously, in early stages, but we look forward to hearing updates as we move through the next 12 months.
Mark Flesher
executiveSo staying with the renewables team, I'd like to -- it's my pleasure to welcome back Paul Gaynor, who's no stranger to the Investor Days. The unfortunate thing, we don't have him or as an executive down here in New Zealand. But -- so this is a business that was started in 2016, a partnership between Paul's team Infratil and New Zealand Super. And there's obviously a lot happened in the last 12 months. So we welcome Paul for the update.
Paul Gaynor
executiveGreat. Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everybody. I'm calling in from Boston, Mass. So happy to be with you, not as late as Ingmar, but we're ready to get going. So why don't I flip to Slide 3, please. One more. Here we go. Okay. So 4 key themes for this year's update. Number one, notwithstanding a global pandemic, we actually had a really good 2020. I'll go into details of that. Our 2021 and '22 growth is very clearly identified. So in terms of a robust set of near-term opportunities, we can lay them out for you. In order to be prepared for that, we actually have a -- have upsized our capital by about $100 million and I'll cover that. And the last point that I want to make is that with the Biden administration now firmly in place, climate change is firmly near the top of his agenda, if not at the top. We expect even more growth in the market. And I would say that not so much maybe for '21 and '22, but that's more long-term oriented. So let's go to the next slide. What I want to do before we go into the 4 key messages is just give you a couple of background slides on Longroad. For those of you who've never seen the company before or just want to get an update, remember, the business has 3 segments: OpCo, DevCo, ServiceCo. You can see all of the different numbers in each. I'm going to go into them a little bit different. A little bit at a time, all of the different numbers. But OpCo is -- right now, it is 1.6 gigawatts, 13 projects. We actually announced an acquisition this morning, U.S. time. I'll talk about it a little bit later on in the presentation. So that brings our total operating fleet up to 1.6 gigawatts. This part of the business provides a lot of ballast for the more -- the riskier side of the business, meaning in the development business. This is a strategic -- we did this with strategic intent. And just to give you a sense of what kind of ballast that provides, in this year, we're expecting to generate about $15 million of distributions just from this portfolio. Devco, you can see, we kind of wrap development and acquisitions in one. We've a total of 2.9 gigawatts. We sold 1.3 gigawatts, that means the 1.6 gigawatts of Opco. We do have a deep pipeline. I'll talk more about that, about 33 people. And then Serviceco is a smaller business for sure, from a profitability point of view, but an incredibly important one from the strategic point of view. We do have a fair number of people there. We really are focusing on operating our own assets as well as the assets of some key institutional investors. So it's a very focused strategy, and it's important to make the rest of the business work. So why don't I flip to Page 5? Just one more background slide. Just to give you some numbers, upper left charts, 2 gigawatts developed since inception. Mark said, we've been in business for 4.5 years with Infratil and New Zealand Super. We've acquired almost 1 gigawatt. We've sold 1.3, that leaves 1.6. You can see that we have done -- we kind of -- if we -- if you remember from a couple of years ago that pie chart on the bottom left looked more equal between wind and solar. In the last couple of years, we've done predominantly solar and that is bringing -- that pie chart's looking much differently. And then just some of the key numbers here. In terms of employees, 126. Safety is incredibly important to us. 2020 was a great year on that front, in that we had 0 recordable incidents. So great -- kudos to our team and also with -- our Board looks at it pretty rigorously. Raising capital from third parties, whether that's debt capital, whether that's tax equity or when we're selling the project is incredibly important. Since inception, we've raised $6.4 billion, and we've raised $1.8 billion in the face of a global pandemic. That, to me, is a great accomplishment. And then the last couple of bullet points there, just our financial returns of Infratil, actually, the 60% is for all the investors as is the $173 million of distributions inception to date. All right. So those are the background slides. Please go to the next slide. So let me just start off with 2020. So this is the first key message that -- on balance, 2020 has been a pretty strong year for Longroad. So 2 points to make on this slide. The first one is, we -- in 2019, we made a strategic decision to -- at that point, our Opco was about 1 gigawatt. We've made a strategic decision to double it. And the point of this first -- the top half of the slide is that we've made a pretty good -- some pretty good progress on that front. So 1 point -- roughly 1.4 gigawatts. That doesn't include the deal we closed this morning. That's why it's 200 megawatts lower. So that, to us -- we view -- again, in terms of the ballast point, providing some distributable cash flow to the business in an otherwise maybe a low growth year in the Devco is very helpful. We also are finding that there's a lot of option value in -- within our operating fleet, new technology, repowering, refinancing, et cetera. So that -- we really love this part of our business. We're on our way to doubling it to 2 gigawatts, and we hope to do that within a few years or so. The second point is on the bottom half in terms of like how are we trying to grow it in terms of capital allocation. And what I thought would be best is to use a real-life example. And you can see a deal that we did in 2020. We did it with AIP, which is a Danish fund manager, 50-50 joint venture with Longroad, where they invested in 2 projects, Little Bear solar, which is now operational in California and Prospero 1, which is a West Texas solar asset. So the way it worked from the capital efficiency point of view is we -- obviously, we did all of the development. We raised all the capital. And then at closing of the deals, we effectively -- AIP made an investment, and that effectively got all of our capital out of those investments. We made a profit, not a huge profit, but we made a profit upfront. And importantly, we retain a 50% interest. We continue to operate those projects, so there's some revenue in there. And that type of structure really works. It's really efficient with our capital base. You get to put dollars out the door, turn them around and then still have effectively option value on these 2 great projects. We did a structure like this in 2019 with AIP, you might remember, called El Campo, it's a wind project. And the beauty of this deal is that we really just kind of copied and pasted the technology from that. It's almost an identical structure. Some of the details are different because the projects are different, but in terms of how the deal was negotiated with AIP and then importantly, how we're running the projects with AIP after closing has been seamless. So it's been great. So obviously, that's something that we would like to do more of. Next slide. Devco in 2020. Again, pretty solid year in the face of a global pandemic. This was our biggest year ever in terms of delivering new megawatts. You can see those 3 projects, Little Bear, Muscle Shoals and Prospero 2. Great cross-section of offtakers and locations. We store tax equity from Wells Fargo and U.S. Bank. And all in all, really happy with what we did in 2020 on the development front. One of the things when you think about how COVID could have impacted us, the thing that we were all worried mostly about was getting these construction sites actually shut down. The -- our team and the industry, in general, did a great job of putting in best practices on COVID management, and we had very few -- and I -- what I would call them kind of scattered incidents of COVID. They were dealt with quickly with our team and with the contractors team, and in the end, ended up having virtually no impact from COVID on our construction portfolio. So that's fantastic. The other thing I want to mention on Devco is that we consciously made a decision to kind of re-weight our portfolio. This goes back to, I'll call it, first, second quarter of 2019. That chart you see on the upper right shows the composition of our portfolio by region. And the 2 things that we were trying to do is shrink our exposure in Texas because we thought Texas was a little bit overcooked at the moment. We've done that. As you can see, there's -- right now, we actually have no exposure in ERCOT, which is -- a development exposure in ERCOT, which is great. We also wanted to put a little bit more emphasis on our western -- the western part of the U.S., specifically, Arizona and California. And you can see those green bars there. Southwest, we cranked it up from -- 3.5x from 650 megawatts to over 2.3 gigawatts. And our California portfolio went from 0 to 750 megawatts. So great work, again, consciously -- a conscious decision, and we proved that you can do it, you can kind of play the game live and make portfolio adjustments as the market changes. We're really happy with what we did in 2020. And we'll continue to do that as we go. If we go to the next slide, please. Okay. Serviceco. Again, it's -- when we drew up this business plan 4.5 years ago, we never conceived it would be this big. But I just want to put that in context from a profitability point of view in terms of moving the needle on our overall strategy. It's strategically very important. It is -- from a financial point of view, it's relatively modest. But notwithstanding that, you can see we added a lot of megawatts under management in 2020. One important relationship that I want to just mention is we agreed to manage 5 wind farms on behalf of BlackRock. BlackRock is a big renewable energy investor, obviously, across the globe, particularly in the U.S. They put out a competitive bid for their asset management services, and we were successful in doing that. So that's -- all of these -- when you think about what we're trying to do, these are big name, institutional investors. We don't want to -- we want to focus on a handful. There's 5 names here. Maybe it grows by 1 or 2 and try to grow those relationships as opposed to having 20 different clients on the service side. Next slide, please. So that's 2020. And I think, again, overall, a great result. I think if someone asked me last year, hey, Paul, you're going to have a global pandemic. Tell me how much -- tell me what you're -- what Longroad is going to do in 2020? I would have never forecasted what we did. I would have obviously been a lot more bearish on it, mostly due to, I would have no idea what it was going to do to the capital markets. I would have no idea what it was going to do to our whole development process. And for sure, on the construction front, I was pretty -- I would have been pretty nervous. So the fact that we sit here today with having a great 2020 in our book says a lot about what I'd say the industry in general and our success and track record and keeping it going for Longroad in 2020. All right. So next point is really just the capital base. So this is the second key message. There are 3 points I want to make here. Number one, upper left, the structure is efficient. If you look at -- again, this is before the upsize, which I'm going to talk about in a second. But if you look at what we've done in terms of turning over this capital, you can see the cash piece of our business, we've turned it over 1.6x since inception. The LC facility, we've turned over 3.6x. So that means we can take $1, invest it in a project, monetize that project, take that same dollar invested in project #2. That -- from a competitive point of view, that is a huge advantage. And it says a lot about the structure of investment with Infratil and New Zealand Super. It's been -- to me, it's been one of the reasons we've been very successful. Upper right on the capital increase. You can see that we've increased the cash facility from $125 million to $175 million. We've increased the LC facility. We call it a revolver. We've added another $50 million. So that's another $100 million. We've -- also have a sidecar Opco investment vehicle that we've also made. We had $45 million invested at the end of 2020. Sorry, that's at the end of -- at the beginning of 2020. And at the beginning of 2021, we've increased that by about $15 million. So that's great. One other point I'll make not on the slide is that, myself and my 3 partners, Michael, Charles and Pete, we each own -- we own 20% as a group. Each of us owns 5%. So there's a significant amount of kind of skin in the game coming from us with this capital increase. The last point I want to make on this slide is the bottom, and this has to do with the flexible capital. When you think about kind of how -- the renewable energy sector is very -- it's very disjointed. There's opportunities all across the risk spectrum, greenfield development, buying projects the day before commercial operation. And the beauty of our business model and our capital is that we actually have the freedom to invest all along the spectrum and to make sure that we're getting paid appropriately depending upon where we are along this risk spectrum. So again, huge competitive advantage, and we just want to keep it going. All right. Next slide. Third key message is our identified growth for the next 2 years. So these are deals that we have identified. They're fairly advanced in our development process and pipeline. You can see in total, 1.8 gigawatts of developments. You can also probably notice that they're all solar. So this goes to the fact that the investment tax credit relative to where the current production tax credit is a lot more, I'll call it, economic. And therefore, our development efforts have been focused principally on solar opportunities across the U.S. Now with the Biden administration in place, that may change, you may get an extension of some kind or some other climate-enhancing revenue streams. And of course, we'll adjust, and we're already preparing to adjust for that, if that indeed happens. A couple of points to make on the slide. Number one, we've got revenue already in place for over 50% of that portfolio. I don't know if we're going to do every single one of these deals. I would love to, but I'm not sure we're going to be able to do all of them in 2 years, but that doesn't mean that can't happen in 2023 or after that. So that's point number one. Point number two is on development margins, if you remember our 2018 guidance, I think we had the solar at 100 to 400 and wind at 500 to 300. I just reduced the top end of that range down a little bit. We'll see -- I'm optimistic that we can continue to kind of hit or exceed these ranges, but I just want to give you a sense of kind of how it's been going over the last few years. And the other thing that you'll see here is that storage is coming into the fray in many of our deals. You can see in Hawaii, Arizona, California, Utah. You can't really have a discussion about solar without also talking about storage. So 2021 and 2022, the growth prospects look really, really good, and we're excited about it. Next slide, please. Okay. So this is the deal that we announced this morning, we actually closed on Friday. So this is -- we're calling it Sun Streams. It was actually developed by First Solar. First Solar is a panel manufacturer that we've done a significant amount of business with over the last 4 years. They were the original developer. And then they -- and there's 5 phases in all. We actually have bought -- first phase has already been sold and is operational. We bought the second phase, which is called Sun Streams 2. That's 200 megawatts. It's under construction. It's actually -- if you look at the photograph, it's the one that's kind of in the foreground, you can actually see the construction process underway. And then Sun Streams 4 and 5, which you can't really see in this picture, but trust me, they're right around the corner. And the reason we like this development, a couple of reasons. Number one, it's big. So from a competitive point of view, from an ability to attract power buyers, we like it. If you see in the foreground -- sorry, in the back of the picture, at the kind of the top, I put a little arrow there with the -- it's the Palo Verde nuclear plant. It's -- I think it's the largest nuclear plant operating in the U.S. It supplies a significant amount of power to Los Angeles and to California and supplies a lot to the desert southwest. So we're literally within a stone's throw of one of the biggest kind of energy nodes in -- on the west coast of the U.S. So great strategic position to have. We do not -- so Sun Streams 4 and 5 are development assets. We do not have revenue contracts for them, but we think that given its strategic -- the strategic location, access to either California or Arizona or potentially in other markets and the ability for us to put storage on any of these projects, we think is a great formula for success. So really happy to get it done. It's great to work with First Solar, and they did a great job in getting the projects to here. And now our job is to get them to where we can create some value. Okay. Next slide. Okay, the last point is really the fourth key message, which is there's a lot of growth and kind of beyond what we're even seeing in the next couple of years. And the first thing I want to talk about is the energy transition. A lot of people talk about the energy transition. I didn't really understand what it all meant, to be honest. But it's pretty interesting when you think about it. There's -- there have been 2 massive energy transitions already. And you can see the blue bars on the left, that's basically kind of the wood and biomass. That's how back -- in the 1800s, that's the wood and biomass era. And then you see -- kind of in the middle of the chart, you can see oil and gas -- sorry, coal coming up. And now you're seeing oil and gas make a big push in the kind of the '70s, '80s. And now what's coming -- what's not shown on this slide is the next one, right? It's the transition to renewables. So this is really the context that we're thinking about this in the long term. I just want to give you 2 kind of data points to get your head around some of the numbers that portray the potential growth. Next slide. Okay. So I'm not going to go through all these charts, but these are called Sankey charts. They talk about supply and demand in the energy sector. The chart on the upper left shows what the energy sector looks like. The sort of the left part of the chart is the supply, the right part of the chart is the demand and then on the upper right part of the slide, you're seeing what could it look like in 2050. This is obviously taking from a report, a third-party report that's called America's Zero-Carbon Action Plan. But you can see -- again, I just picked out some of the numbers. If you look at the chart on the bottom right, you're seeing solar and wind going -- growing 2300%. You're seeing natural gas and petroleum dropping 80-ish percent. You're seeing the whole electrification in general going up 28%. So there's going to be a lot more electricity as an energy source than there is today. And then hydrogen, and Ingnmar talked a little bit about hydrogen as kind of a transition or an energy sync an energy conversion. So that's 1 data point to take a look in terms of the number of -- when you think about going from 2300% change in solar and wind, it is staggering. And this is just in the U.S. All right. Next slide. To get a little bit more real on kind of what impact the Biden administration could have on us in terms of what that administration's goals are. You're seeing some numbers around what he calls the 2035 net-zero electricity target -- net-zero carbon electricity target. And again, this is the amount -- what you're seeing in the dotted line there is the amount of new capacity from today that would have to be installed in order to meet this 2035 net-zero carbon target. About 70 to 80 gigawatts a year of wind and solar, $100 billion of private capital per year. So in terms of keeping that in perspective, the best year ever, if you add the best ever solar year and the best ever wind year and those didn't happen in the same year, that sum is 35 gigawatts. So we need to do twice that every year for the next 15 years. So we're happy to be -- that's why we call Longroad long road. It's a long road. The fundamentals are positive, and we're really happy to be here. So I'll stop there and take some questions.
Matthew Ross
executiveThanks very much for joining us, Paul. As always, an incredibly insightful presentation from you and the team and a number of people expressed their disappointment that you couldn't join us. So hopefully, next year. Probably just following on from that last point, are you able to just provide a few extra comments on what the Biden administration might look for specifically in terms of renewables? Or what we could expect to see over the next couple of years?
Paul Gaynor
executiveWell, I think the answer, that is a little bit of -- I'd say it's an all of the above because it's not something that's going to be done with what I would call, incremental legislation. So it's going to have to be some combination of tax credits, some -- what everybody's calling, direct pay in order to kind of free up some of the tax equity market, federal procurement, federal lands, transmission, permitting, acceleration of that process. Giving FERC, which is the federal regulator, giving them a little bit more freedom and/or authority to kind of push development projects along from a queue position -- from a interconnection queue position. So it's staggering actually when you think about all of the things it has. And then there's clean energy -- there's a clean energy standard that's on the table. And obviously, the golden kind of -- the key to success would be some kind of a climate, priced on carbon and with some climate targets. So I'm not sure all of that's going to happen in the first couple of years. I think that there's a pretty aggressive -- and when you think once this COVID legislation has passed, I think the administration is going to move quickly to this infrastructure bill. And I think in there, that infrastructure bill will contain a lot of incentives and, I'll call it, motivations for trying to hit this goal. But we're going to be -- we're definitely going to need to change some of the rules.
Matthew Ross
executiveLooking at Longroad specifically, are you able to talk through, I guess, there's a huge scale in the Longroad platform. What are some of the areas that you look around assessing the kind of buy, hold, sell decisions around your projects?
Paul Gaynor
executiveYes, sure. I think we -- I'd say that we take a pretty thoughtful view as to whether or not we're going to -- it's not just an automatic process of develop a project and sell it. I think there's a view as what does the market think of the value. What do we think of the value? How do those 2 things compare? And then let's go ahead and make a plan. I think the AIP transaction was -- is a great example of -- they are obviously a sophisticated institutional investor. We like the valuation that they put on the project. But they said, we want you to own 50% of it. We want you to have skin in the game. That -- and so when we looked at that outcome, it was a great way to kind of optimize that whole decision-making process. And we'll continue to do that. We actually have -- at the moment, we have Prospero 2, which is one of the development projects that I talked about that we closed in 2020. That is -- we own 100% of that right now. It's in under construction. We are now looking at opportunities to either sell that, sell it all, sell a portion of it or keep it. I mean that's -- so it's a constant live set of calculations to make sure that we're seeing what are investors saying, what we think about it kind of both short term and long term, and how do we make -- how do we maximize the outcome for our investors?
Matthew Ross
executiveAs a follow-on to that point, are you able to make some comments on some of the trends you're seeing in the PPA market at the moment in the U.S.?
Paul Gaynor
executiveYes. Well, I think the general comment is that it continues to be led by corporates. I mean, the corporate, I think I've shared this comment at previous Infratil Investor Days. I can't believe -- again, when we started Longroad, I would have never predicted the way that the corporates have come off the seats in terms of their buying appetite. It's been awesome. So -- and I think -- and in certain cases, that -- and the corporate buying universe is -- continues to grow every year, right? So you're seeing more new entrants into the PPA market. So that's helpful. In terms of pricing, it's -- a developer's perspective is that the prices are never high enough. But we are seeing in certain parts of the country that actual PPA prices are starting to creep up just a little bit. So before then, we were seeing a pretty steady decline in -- not massive, but every bid -- or every result of every bid was lower than the one the month before. We're kind of seeing a little bit -- we're seeing that slow down just a little bit, which, again, is great for us.
Matthew Ross
executiveThat probably provides a nice crossover to the next question. Are you able to provide a little bit more detail about who are the type of investors that are actually looking at buying the types of projects you're developing at the moment?
Paul Gaynor
executiveI would categorize them as mostly institutional investors, infrastructure investors, investors that are managing family money or pension fund money that want to, I would call, just obviously, get a little bit of -- get derisked or get a certain rate of return on an asset that they can look at. And so these types of investors don't want to take development risk. Some of them might not even want to take construction risk, but they certainly like the fact that they've got a 35- to 40-year asset with a 20-year contract with an investment-grade corporate or utility. Those are the types of investors that we're seeing quite frequently in the market.
Matthew Ross
executiveGreat. And one more question, I guess, just to round us out. Any more visibility on what you're seeing around construction costs, the potential impact that they might flow through into the project IRRs as well?
Paul Gaynor
executiveConstruction costs have been -- I'd say, have been pretty consistent in terms of -- I'd say, neither rising nor falling in the markets that we're looking at. There are always exceptions to that. There's one particular region in the U.S. that is relatively kind of uncharted waters where you're seeing a pretty wide band of construction costs. So those parts of -- that part of the development process is relatively risky in terms of getting -- you want to make sure that you can actually build the project for what you think it's going to cost and what your own team thinks is going to cost, and then you take it out to the market and say, what does the market say it's going to cost? So I'd say most of the U.S. and most of the things that we're working on have a very predictable CapEx range. There are, of course, a couple of exceptions that we're just trying to derisk at the moment.
Mark Flesher
executiveRight. I know we're right on time to finish with them. Can I thank you, Paul, for joining us and giving us another great update. Hopefully, next year, we'll get to see you. New Zealand golf courses miss you.
Paul Gaynor
executiveI hope so. I miss New Zealand.
Mark Flesher
executiveWhat I'm going to do is just ask Jason just for a quick wrap before we move to lunch when he finishes. We're going to take a break until 1:30 New Zealand Time, 11:30 Australian. So thanks, Jason.
Jason Boyes
executiveYes. I mean, thank you, Paul, and thank you Ingmar before you. I think it's hard not to feel that experience and knowledge and capability of these people oozing out of the screen, right. And I think Ingmar did a really nice job of summarizing the translation of our idea into what is now a very real asset. And Paul, congratulations on a phenomenal year and a near-term outlook, that's really solid. I think you can -- it's hard not to be bowled over right by the investment task that's ahead of us in the sector. And you can see why we are super confident that the investment opportunities here in other areas as well will far exceed the capital that we have to bring to be in. I think there was a question specifically on Galileo pace of investment. But I think Ingmar -- I think we still have you, so I don't know if you're able to quickly comment on that. I think they're sort of looking about what would we project over the next year.
Ingmar Wilhelm
attendeeYes. So in terms of capital, say, investment or deployment, I would say there's -- there are 2 streams. One is the ordinary, say, buildup of the pipeline. And our objective of pipeline over this year is certainly going up to, say, 2 to 3 gigawatts. I think that would be the reasonable pipeline at the end of the year. The costs that you need to undertake in order to build a pipeline from scratch is, to be measured in, say, for that size of pipeline around $25 million, perhaps a bit more. It depends, of course, on the entry point that we choose. And I would say that is ordinary course of business. However, there are also mid-stage opportunities. So -- we are looking at in a very selective way. However, we are looking at a couple of mid-stage opportunities where pipelines are coming to a market, and they could provide us the opportunity to access the market with one substantial pipeline, sometimes also with a couple of very seasoned developers. And yes, then the envelope could also be larger. So difficult to say what factor is. But I think in some of the large markets, the 6 that I mentioned before, there are opportunities we are looking at, and it may well be that something will pop up even before the end of this year. So Poland might be one market, but also Germany and France is a very attractive market. Spain with new regulations is about to create new opportunities. So hard to say that there's one market missing. So we are looking at that as well.
Jason Boyes
executiveYes. I totally agree with that. And finding some of those inorganic opportunities is exactly what we're about, right? So good luck with that search. I might leave it there.
Unknown Executive
executiveThank you.
Jason Boyes
executiveThank you. Thank you, Ingmar. Thank you, Paul.
Ingmar Wilhelm
attendeeThank you.
Mark Flesher
executiveAnd welcome back, everyone, to the afternoon session of the Infratil Investor Day. My pleasure in welcoming Paul Newfield, who's no stranger to these days or to a lot of this audience. Paul is going to introduce the health care section of the afternoon and the Qscan profile. Paul's led a lot of the work at Morrison & Co. with the team around looking at this industry for quite a while and then looking at the specific opportunities. So welcome, Paul.
Paul Newfield
executiveThanks Flesh and thanks all. I am sorry, we can't be together there. Just sort of a brief recap on some of our views of the sector -- while we're found -- while we're focused on [indiscernible] I think but this time process that [indiscernible] crowd. Just on the next slide, a reminder about the investment that we've made to start with. So Qscan, our first real pure-play health care investment, we finally closed the deal on December 22nd, Chris, you and your team, because you were busy right after Christmas. It's a diagnostic imaging business, one of the leading ones in this Australian market. Chris will talk you through more of it. I'll just give you a little bit of a broader context for our health care investment strategy. So on the next page, you see some pretty familiar stats around the aging population. I think we've probably put these up a few times before and you've seen versions of them. And the key thing to call out in relation to as part of the health care sector is, it's not just that kind of over 80s group that we might think of about the aging population. Really, the health care business we've made here starts becoming increasingly relevant all the way from 45-plus and steadily increasing in 65-plus. So if you see that kind of bulging midriff in those charts around 45. That's really what we're starting to look at here. Now on the next page, you can see, why. The chart on the left shows the synergy of people who've got at least one chronic disease by age. And as you see, that starts ticking up around that 45 point. And on the right-hand side, specifically, when you look at oncology, the incidence of cancer really starts growing exponentially, but particularly for men so that is a few 45-plus [indiscernible] on these calls usually. It starts ticking up exponentially really around that 45 marker. And so by the time, you are 60 or 65, you're 4 or 5x likely to have suffered from cancer or being diagnosed with cancer as you were pre-45. So there's kind of demographic picture we're looking at. And on the next page, you start to see why that is a big problem for societies to solve. So from here from 2015 to 2030, this is the chart of OECD countries looking at the growth and the share of their GDP that they are going to be spending on health care. So for Australia, 25% growth of that share, New Zealand is 21%. So I think we're going from spending about 8% of our total GDP to over 10% of almost 1 need, health care. So it's what gives us interest that we say there is a large and growing problem for societies to solve, and it should get [indiscernible] . So the next page, what you see is some of the criteria we've used to screen we as a plan in health care. This is what we've been doing for more than 3 years, probably -- having spent 3 years looking at the digital space before we [indiscernible] CDC business, similarly up to this health care investment and Qscan. And what we've been looking for are particularly businesses that are exposed to some of those large and growing health care needs, but importantly, definitely improve patient outcomes and reduce the overall system burden. So we're trying to find ways to [indiscernible] the whole system cost. And obviously to look for all the things we like in infrastructure, barriers to entry, stable market structures, supportive regulatory environments and importantly aligned and engaged medical professionals. Hope that gives you what it means from an investment case, as you look to reliable cash flows, top line growth, there should be at a multiple of GDP and plenty of options to keep reinvesting in the growth of the business rather than just be doing repeated M&A. So if you look through to the next page, please. Being new to health care, we're also conscious to bring some quite specific risks. Obviously, clinical risk, medical risk, governance around that. Doctor recruitment and retention is really important. It's a really big job of work to do and Chris will talk about it specifically in Qscan around IT, particularly you start capturing the benefits of integrating larger networks and clinics and then transferring the best practices between them. So going into that, we are conscious that we will need the Bruce Harkers and the Paul Gaynors of the health care space. So 2 of the executives who are working with [indiscernible] this investment are John Livingston and Andrew Harrison are the founders and CEOs of the 2 listed diagnostic imaging businesses in Australia, Integral and Capitol. And so we are trying to build up that capability within our team to support the capability that we found within Chris' team in buying this business. I think, our overall view on this is, sectors like diagnostic imaging have historically been the domain of either doctors-owned balance sheets, groups of people who became friends and invested in building their own little 5, 6-doctor practice or private equity of [indiscernible] for 3 to 5 years. And when we engaged with the Qscan team, we just found a lot of opportunity for someone who would have a very long investment horizon, that you can actually make investments that will pay off within them. So we think we're the right kind of capital to own businesses like this, and I've got great reception from the team and the doctors as we started locating this. So finally, on the last page, please. How do we grow? So this was a $735 million acquisition. So meaningful, but not yet at the scale we'd like it to grow of yet. We're looking at a lot of opportunities within radiology. Clearly, we've got a lot of organic growth that Chris will talk about opportunities to expand the network. There's a lot of industry consolidation to be done and Chris will talk about some of the drivers for that and also opportunities to expand outside of Australia and expand into teleradiology. We're also -- the Morrison & Co team looking at a number of adjacencies, particularly in areas like oncology, which are very closely related to the Qscan business, but a range of opportunities on that space. So there's probably one [indiscernible] talking about again this time next year and you'll be seeing us start to grow from this kind of investment in Qscan to quite a scalable position in the portfolio. Now very conscious that there are [indiscernible] investment coming well. So it's probably a good time for me to hand over to Chris, and he can start telling you how he's going to do that.
Chris Munday
executiveThank you very much, Paul, and thank you to everyone for the opportunity to be here today. It's great to be part of the Infratil team. I'm going to try and put a really positive slide on it. Paul does -- or did remind us all in that opening that I'm one of those above 45-year-old males that are more frequently or more likely to visit diagnostic imaging business in the future. So our job is to make sure that's a really great experience for the referrer and the patient. I'll just take you on to a slide, I think it's sort of Page 3, which is a bit of an introduction to Qscan. So just one more slide up. Okay. I thought I'd just talk about today who we are, and where we are, and then a bit more about where to from here. So that slide does a good way of sort of showing you where we are geographically. We are a national portfolio now, 75. In fact, yesterday, we opened our 76th clinic, which was very exciting because it was in Adelaide in South Australia, our first clinic there, which is, again, a PET/CT clinic in a 5,000 square meter medical precinct in South Australia. We are, you can see fairly more geographically dispersed. There's been a real focus on both metro and regional in terms of the growth profile over the last several years. Good reasons for that, which I'll talk a bit about today. We have 10 PET clinics, and we're very much the market leaders in the PET space. Critically, we've got 7 core external reporting contracts. So we're reporting 4 groups, both hospitals, but also other imaging providers. So one that I don't show on that little map, but there's a group up in Katherine in the Northern Territory that we provide external reporting for. So that's teleradiology. Very briefly, teleradiology is a couple of things. Teleradiology is internally. So intra, I can have a doctor downstairs in the reporting room who is reporting scans at the clinic downstairs, but he or she is also reporting scans being scanned elsewhere within the Qscan network. And then, of course, there's external teleradiology, same principle, but doing tele -- doing reporting for a hospital or external provider of that service. We also have the centralized hubs, which we benefited from through one of our acquisitions, the Alpenglow acquisition. So think of that as radiologists working outside of the clinic. So very efficient. They're not required to, therefore, constantly get up and go and attend to patients of certain modalities, but rather they're working. In fact, Sydney hub is in a CBD building -- in the office building in Central Sydney. We're about 800 employees group-wide. 2 things notable on the map. One, I noticed that Tasmania seems to have drifted East. I'm not sure whether Infratil are telling me they're making a play for it, but it is technically supposed to be a little bit left. I think we lost a bullet point and it moved east. The other obvious thing on the map is that Victoria, there's nothing in Victoria and you probably wondered that why. We looked at a very significant acquisition at Victoria about 18 months ago. We were simultaneously looking at acquisition that ended up proceeding with Alpenglow, so it was very choosing been the 2. There is a desire to be in Victoria and certainly on our to do list over the next 12 to 24 months. I'll move to the next slide. What do we excel at? This is a good slide, just to remind everyone of 2 things. One, this business is -- the most critical thing in this business in radiology is the doctors. We are very lucky, and we're -- a differentiator in this organization we have highly specialized radiologists. So subspecialty experts. It's a fairly diverse group, and that list of photos or that sequence of photos shows you we've got a very diverse group in many respects. Perhaps what it doesn't show is the subspecialty expertise. So the nuclear medicine experts, the neuroradiology experts, MSK, multi skeletal -- musculoskeletal. So that's one of the secrets to the group's success is rather than general radiologists, it's this highly collegial group of specialist radiologists. That helps us be differentiated in the market. And on top of that, we then had a very clear strategy to be the first movers in nonhospital PET/CT, through a unique operational model, working with partners like Icon Cancer Care to put PET/CT into specifically cancer care facilities. That's been quite successful and growing rapidly. We've also had that strategy of established and defensive regional clusters. So the Northern New South Wales, Southeast New South Wales. Groups that we purchased, they have excellent demographics in terms of what we look at for a potential long-term organic growth, clear market leadership in those catchments. The highly scalable teleradiology capability, which I'll talk about quite a bit today. So that's enabling us not only to load share across the group, but also to be able to grow nationally and, of course, internationally. And prior to COVID, we were looking at a London hub on top of the Brisbane and Sydney hubs. COVID obviously makes things a little more difficult, but that's certainly where we're aspiring to be. I think that's covered everything I wanted to talk about on that slide. So I'll move on to the next slide. A very quick one on the service offerings for those of you who are interested the -- you'll hear me talk about the high-value modalities. The Qscan's growth has been very successfully linked to the growth in those high-value modalities. So there's been a shift in the industry towards modalities like PET, like MRI, which traditionally was really used for only a few types of scans, but it's now used increasingly as the quality of the imaging through these modalities gets better and better through advances in technology. They're used for far wider range of diagnostic -- or diagnoses. So PET, MRI and CT, what we might call the high-value modalities. Ultrasound is also a fast-growing modality. Of course, there's no radiation involved. It's an easy from a capital footprint, small space, small machines. So a very easy entry into diagnosis -- in diagnostic imaging. The specialists that we are trying to capture. Our key relationships are with specialists, GPs, medical specialists and of course the patients, but the medical specialists are increasingly looking for advanced technology and cutting-edge equipment. So it's really important that we continue to invest in that space. Let's move to the next slide. So what's our business model? Relatively straightforward. We -- myself and the management team have the clinic networks. So we are in charge of the radiographers, the sonographers and the support staff at those clinics, and the equipment, which is all in a high-quality hospital grade. So the differentiator for us in the market is that we have the capital now to invest in the high-grade equipment. That's very important to referrers and very important to doctor recruitment. You can imagine that medical radiologists, particularly subspecialty experts want access to the very best machines. So we are very careful from a strategic point of view, where we put those machines. We might have a base CT machine at a particular regional location, but where there's an opportunity for us to grow our cardiac CT business would have a high-end cardiac CT machine at a particular clinic and then market accordingly. Systems infrastructure, we provide the infrastructure just in seeing there. It looks like he's reporting on one of our latest systems that might be at home. So the home workstations mirror what we have in the clinics. And of course, they're also the same in the hubs, the centralized hubs. And they're working off a single reporting list in each of the regions. And one of the big investments in IT this year is to then expand that to reporting list that's truly national for many, many reasons why, which I'll also talk about. We provide the corporate services supporting the business. But really, one of the key successes of Qscan has been management working very much hand-in-hand with the doctors. We all learned, I think, through the roll-up that happened under the previous ownership with the PE, we'd all observed the challenges in corporatized radiology. And we have been very focused from the start in management of the doctors working hand in hand in terms of decision-making and making sure that, that engagement continues to drive our success. There's real alignment through equity ownership, the large majority of our doctors have equity, that really helps us in terms of that doctor engagement and working hand in hand. The doctors are independent medical practitioners, but by being equity owners, we ensure that we do have that engagement. I'll move on to the next slide. So just a quick couple of snapshot. I thought slides might benefit everyone in terms of the Australian diagnostic imaging sector. So let's move to the first one. Radiology in Australia has experienced consistent industry organic growth around 6% or just over 6%, so it's a very predictable structural growth. It's an essential service, radiology, and it's a key pillar in disease identification, prevention and monitoring, and it is becoming -- it's being utilized more and more. And that's partly through a number of, I guess, continued focus on preventive medicine. But also just the quality of the imaging and the speed. So it's now making it much easier for GPs and specialists to get results and quickly make diagnosis. It's -- this is an industry that's well supported by the Australian government, both sides of politics, neither dares to mess with Medicare. It's -- the Australian public are passionate about Medicare and any support of health. So there's good structural volume led growth and critically an ongoing shift to those high end modalities, which, of course, Qscan is so well placed to benefit from because we have invested in subspecialty experts. And then, of course, the aging population, as Paul mentioned, the population aging and that focus on preventive care is also a key underlying structure for growth. There are high barriers to scale, limited radiologist supply, which, of course, has pluses and minuses, it does make it harder for others to enter the market. It also means it's an absolute #1 priority for the CEO. We have to continue to invest in making sure that we recruit and retain our radiologists. We are lucky that relationships with referrers tend to be very sticky. So once you -- if you're providing the best quality service, and you have the best radiologists, referrers tend to stay with you. Licenses are an important part of radiology in Australia. You would have heard about MRI licenses, which the government hands out. We have sort of a fair share, I would say, in the market in that space. And where we don't have a license, we've been very strategic in terms of where we book those to ensure we capture good demand. There's significant benefits of scale, which I've probably already alluded to, diagnostic imaging more and more now favors the corporatized operators. Obviously, it gives us the ability -- it gives us at the forefront of doctor recruitment, which is so important because of the investment in technology and teleradiology that we can make and the investment in those high-value modalities like PET-CT. And of course, where the employers are aiming to be employer of choice for sonographers and radiographers. So another real focus for myself and the management team is to continue to invest in training in sonographers and radiographers because if we get the -- to become the #1 employer of choice in that market, it significantly underlies our growth aspirations. Let's move on to the next slide, which is radiology key drivers. We've probably touched on some of these. I won't go through it more in great detail, but the population is obviously one of the most important ones. And that shift in the aging of the population, the median age, the general -- the Australian median age is expected to increase. In terms of the population over 65 is growing, and that obviously aids us as such the increasing share of the population that are going to have a greater demand for radiology services. The federal funding, which underpins it and indexation was after a 20-year hiatus, indexation was reintroduced in July last year for a significant proportion of the Medicare rebates. So again, that helps underpin growth. Visits to general practitioners are increasing. We noticed through COVID-19, telehealth in Australia for GPs really took off and I think we're going to see that continue. And that's actually a good thing for diagnostic imaging because it tends to -- anything that eases the access to health then tends to drive the growth of DI. So individuals being able to just talk to a GP like we are right now, using video conferencing, increases the visits to the GP, increases access and the intention to have an impact on driving DI growth and industry consolidation. There are high barriers to scale. So we're seeing significant consolidation. Scale provides that ability to adapt technology and radiologist preferences. And as -- again, I mentioned the employers' choice is aided by investment in training radiologists and staff, and a real focus for us is the training of the future radiologists. So to continue to have subspecialty experts in the future, you have to have them now because they are the ones who would train the fellows. So the radiologist wanting to do a fellowship in, for example, nuclear medicine or MSK need to be able to be trained by existing experts. So that's why we're already in an advantage in that space. Let's move on to the next slide. I thought I'd have one quick slide demonstrating to you the impact of COVID-19. The far left there, you may have forgotten, but Australia had a rather awful end to 2019 with devastating bushfires. So January '20 was actually a really challenging month for us. Hence why the year-on-year, perhaps doesn't look as impressive as you might like. But we also had floods in Outback Queensland. So we had a significant impact on our Southern New South Wales business, we had an impact on some of our regional businesses. We did recover really quickly from those and then went straight into COVID-19. We recovered really well and really quickly. I'm very proud of the management team and how we did that and working again hand in hand with the doctors. We -- look, we were lucky we didn't have Victoria -- Victorian clinics and a number of the other major players did including some of the listed players, so that was fortunate on the basis that Victoria was hit harder than any other state in Australia, that was usually a bad luck for Victoria. So we did have a benefit there from a business perspective, but we also moved very, very quickly. We had to find that balance, I guess, between balancing operational efficiency and quality in clinical care at the start of COVID. So the operational efficiency loss through triaging of patients in PPE and all those things slowed down the business, but I think we got recognized as moving so quickly that referrers were gravitating towards Qscan is knowing what we were doing in COVID. So we bounced back very, very quickly. And PET just sailed through that almost unimpeded. So the PET-CT business, the oncology business, really hardly suffered a blip through COVID-19. Just move on to the next slide. So how's Qscan is set up to win? We're very unique network on the next slide. A strategy build on 4 key growth pillars really underpins the strategic plan from 4 years ago. The metro reputational expertise. So the subspecialty expert radiologists setting up clinics with the high-value modalities, complex procedures. That's what we're renowned for and in terms of margin growth assisting significant in that regard. So we've got that reputation for quality. That's the -- everything in Qscan. The Q is for quality. It's not for Queensland, in case you may wondered, it's very much for quality. Then we established the defensive regional clusters, the 36 clinics with long-term market leadership in those geographical locations. So networks of scale in New South Wales and Queensland, and incumbency there has helped us continue to grow and keep the competition out. We're market leaders in PET, really sound strategy to take PET out of hospitals actually put it into clinics, working with the likes of Icon to co-locate. And as I said, we're the first to take PET out of hospital locations. And Queensland -- sorry, Qscan was the first diagnostic imaging in business back about 13 years ago to take diagnostic imaging out of hospitals and actually put it into a suburban environment and into a home zone type of environment, next to the PET part of all things. So we've learned from previous success and continue to innovate. And then lastly, that highly scalable external reporting capability. So building on the teleradiology internally, which has been so successful and then continue to drive that to service the external hospital contracts and other providers. And of course, all of that's underpinned by a corporate model with an integrated operating platform that we continue to invest in from an IT perspective to give us world-class teleradiology capability. Move onto the next slide. So how -- I guess, the experience of medical and management team, I've touched on a little bit in the introduction, how important that is as a differentiator for us in the market. We really did genuinely learn from what -- from some of the other diagnostic imaging businesses that have struggled to make that shift from small to medium partnerships into a large corporate. And the key for that is working hand in hand every day, talking to the doctors, engaging with the doctors, having them involved in decisions. Disenfranchising the doctors is the #1 mistake you can make in diagnostic imaging. So when we are looking at a decision about a CT machine to go to new clinic, engaging the doctors around how we might make that decision. We've got to make commercial decisions, we've got to make strategic decisions. We've got to make clinical decisions and working with the doctors has been a significant advantage. And having industry spokespeople, we've made a real focus on being very close with the federal government in Australia, the state governments. I'm often able to get in front of Greg Hunt, the Federal Health Minister and talk about strategic issues with him and the challenges we're facing. Next slide. The platform, I'm just really representing that perhaps that platform in a different way here. We are -- we have focused on the specialized -- highly specialized radiologist teams. The high -- the move to focus from almost sort of cookie-cutter diagnostic imaging to those higher-value modalities and then the focus on the catchments that support that. We've got a deep pipeline of opportunities. We're always looking ahead at where we cannot only add modalities to existing clinics. So we might have a clinic with CT, x-ray, ultrasound. So where can we add additional modalities based on sound demographic analysis, referral trends, then we can start looking at, well, we'll add MRI or we might consider PET-CT. We've also got a long list of potential rollout of PET-CT clinics, both with Icon and with existing clinics near hospitals, so that we can satisfy the criteria we need to, to get rebates under Medicare for being part of a comprehensive CAT scan facility. The hub infrastructure and AI-based systems are in place. We've already got basic AI. So the system we're rolling out Intelerad InteleOne system, which allow us to have truly national single reporting list has basic AI. So it does things like prefetches images. So if I -- if Paul had had an MRI of his knee 6 years ago and was having another one, the AI already finds those images and brings it up for the radiologists to then compare with the current MRI scan. And finally, we've executed significantly in M&A in the last 3 or 4 years. We're very much the leaders in diagnostic imaging in that space. We've got a list of actionable targets that we can now pursue. And really we're the only operator with a dedicated strategy and model to remote report in those super regional areas, which we benefit from the acquisition of Alpenglow. The next slide is just a quick summary, 15 of the trends and -- in terms of above-market growth on the left-hand side there, we think we'll get sort of $255 million to $270 million revenue FY '21, that's pro forma. You'll have to excuse me for the fact that for us this year, we've got a change in financial year, so we're now joining you with your 31 March financial year. We've also been through the sale last year, and we've been through a very busy period of M&A. So I must admit, trying to show you these things in a pro forma way, it keeps the CFO very busy. But I guess the key issue is that last graph we're on target there for the year. So that will be a 30 June. I'm still using 30 June number. Next time you see me, I'll have been converted to a 31 March man. And very importantly, for me the right-hand side of the graph is the margin growth that we're seeing across the business. We're looking at sort of 23%. We're 23% now. We're aimed for 25% plus margin. The EBITDA -- we've got a range there 55% to 62%. I think in the earlier presentations that Infratil would have provided, they're probably talking sort of a range, 52% to 58%. We're more bullish. We've got -- we've had really good PET growth outperforming in PET through and post COVID-19, the critical period of COVID-19 in terms of the lockdowns in Australia last year. And we're seeing really good growth in the high-value modalities. I think post the lockdowns, we're seeing a shift back to patients seeing specialists, and we're seeing good growth there. So MRI, CT, particularly in Southeast Queensland and Southern New South Wales, where we've got the MRI licenses, we're seeing good growth. So hence, the slight upgrade in terms of that EBITDA range of 55% to 62%. Next slide. The next phase. So where to from here? Really, if I go one more slide on, the sort of 5-pillared step. We will continue to focus on what we've done really well in the last few years. We will have to look carefully at our aspirations for teleradiology globally because we did really wanted a London hub to be able to do the overnight work in Australia and particularly pick up more of that, COVID-19 has slowed down those aspirations. So we'll have to look at that carefully. On the other hand, the systems and the investment we're making in IT and infrastructure is really helping us drive growth in that space through simplicity, and it will help us to recruit more doctors because of the manner in which we can maximize and leverage subspecialty expertise truly nationally. The rest of it I've probably covered already, and I'm conscious of time. We're certainly keen on the M&A opportunities that we'll pursue over the next couple of years. The next slide, our key objectives. I've probably covered the first 2 pretty well. The last one, I'll go through a bit more detail, managing risk. So there is -- for us, it's IT -- this is a people in IT business, and the IT infrastructure we will continue to invest in materially over the next 3 years to help us finalize the integration of some of our systems. It's all about load sharing in an environment where radiologists are a very scarce resource. It's great to have the industry organic growth. I've got to make sure I'm getting the radiologist growth to match that, to service it, and that will be helped by efficiencies in terms of the IT infrastructure that we build. And with a truly national tele business, teleradiology business, we'll be able to load share, which will be significantly benefit us in that regard. Doctor recruitment and doctor attention are almost the #1 focus for the CEO to help drive that growth, and part of that will be an investment in the fellowship program. So driving the future radiologists by putting in place more fellowship programs across those subspecialties, that's been -- the most successful recruiters of doctors are other doctors. My role -- the management role is provide -- to facilitate that and provide the support to ensure that, that happens. The flexible employment model is really important. I've got a desire to grow the number of female radiologists in the business because female radiologists tend to recruit more female radiologists, funny enough. So that's really important to me. There are greater percentage now. I think just over 50% of medical students graduating in medicine in Australia are now female. So I think it's just -- are now outpaced the men. I hope we'll see a shift of that also into the specialist fields. And that -- so it's really important that I'm the first mover and that we capture as many female radiologists. We're being invented with FIFO-ing doctors into regional locations to do interventional days, again, high-value, high-margin work, making it easier in those regional locations for patients. So that's important for us. Researches and working hand in hand with the likes of Icon Cancer Care to drive research opportunities and further growth. And finally, an implementation of best-in-class operating systems, again, through the integration of the 76 clinics driving a culture of productivity and efficiency at clinic level, one of the things I'm most excited about over the next 12 months. And then just a summary slide, lastly. So diagnostic imaging is an industry that's very much supported by predictable, stable market growth, and that derisks growth for Qscan. So that's fantastic. It's organic growth. It's supported by structural macro-led long-term growth. And Qscan benefits from market underpenetration in high-value modalities that we excel at. So we will continue to invest in subspecial radiologists and those high-end modalities. We'll continue to build our market-leading PET-CT network that has been so successful and is driving our margin growth. Would continue to drive our teleradiology business and look for opportunities outside Qscan, both hospital contracts and other providers. And I would very much like in the longer term to be moving that obviously into an overseas location as well. And we'll take advantage of strategic M&A, attractive bolt-ons and transformative targets as well to fast track that growth. And finally, we'll -- very clear focus is attracting and retaining radiologists. It's critical we get that right. We've got a very good recruitment model. We've got an attractive remuneration model for radiologists and the equity model, which has proven to be the most successful way in making radiologist sticky and wanting long-term careers with Qscan Group. So that's -- I hope that's covered in a snapshot for you in 20-odd, 25 minutes. Who we are, where we've come from and, clinically, where we're going and why we're really confident about our goal of being the #1 diagnostic imaging business in Australia. I'll hand back to you, Paul.
Matthew Ross
executiveThanks very much for that, Chris. Matt here. That was a brilliant update and introduction to Qscan. Obviously, a business we are extremely excited about as Infratil, and great opportunity to provide a wider update to our shareholders. But good -- well, I think overall, the questions we've had come through is your opportunity seems to kind of stand out in almost every question which is really exciting. Are you able to first talk through, I guess, some of the ways that you expect the government to kind of invest more in DI over the coming years? And actually elaborate on how you see that it is actually going to demonstrate those better health and patient outcomes you talked about.
Chris Munday
executiveYes. Look, that's a good question. I think we will continue to see -- there's no question, both sides of politics have made it crystal clear that they will continue to support Medicare. So I think that's the very first thing. I guess, if you're outside the health sector, it's the -- it clearly underpins a lot of our revenue, and I can appreciate that's something that people outside the sector look at occasionally with a raised eye brow. But both sides of politics in Australia are incredibly supportive of Medicare. The fact that we have had both sites bipartisan support for indexation coming back in after a long hiatus that came back in last year. So I think you're going to continue to see that support. The areas that we are, from my discussions at the highest levels in the health department, very much cardiology, cardiac support and oncology. They are the 2 that we are continuing to hear where government will continue to invest. They are very supportive of our PET-CT program. I think that's probably from my point of view, over the last 3 years, it surprised me how much interest they have in seeing us drive that growth into regional locations. So where they have -- they're aware that driving the very best health care into regional Australia is a challenge. They are trying to work with us on ways that we can encourage medical practitioners and health care workers into regional Australia, so working on ways that we can break down that barrier because that's very important to them and supporting, I guess, just a greater investment in regional health. So we've said well, here -- there are barriers to us in opening PET-CT clinics in regional areas because of access to dual-trained doctors, radiologists. The way they can help us there is to support the hubs so that I can have a doctor sitting in Sydney, a radiologist, one of the top radiologists in Australia, but reporting scans that might be done in Taree or might be done in Oodnadatta. That's the benefit. So the government, I think, are working with ways to try and support us into regional growth. They are aware of where the organic growth is coming from in modalities and, again, looking at ways to sort of support that.
Matthew Ross
executiveYou mentioned that there was high barriers to scale growth. And obviously, Qscan has a really strong track record of inorganic growth. Are you able to talk through, I guess, some of the benefits of scale in the Qscan platform?
Chris Munday
executiveYes, the benefit for us, and sometimes I feel like I rattle on about too much. So I apologize if I do. But the subspecialty expertise, it's impossible to mirror that. Once you've built a collegiate group of doctors like we have, it makes it very difficult for others to copy that model. So in addition, the advantage we've got with the size is there's a greater shift to those high-end modalities, those -- sorry, those high-value modalities. So once you've got subspecialists, once you've got the capital to be able to invest in those high-value modalities, it makes it very difficult for others to copy. So I think with exception to other large diagnostic imaging businesses, which obviously also have the capital support. But it's very difficult for a small partnership to invest in a high-end cardiac CT. And therefore, target cardiologists in a particular location when Qscan has already done that. So they'll end up putting in a small basic CT, and they're relying on the bulk bill sort of GP market. So that -- that's the sort of the #1 box we have to tick is the quality of our doctors, the quality of the care, the investment in capital and innovation. And then the other investments in terms of -- if you look at the innovation that we're making in InteleOne, so having a truly national work list, it means that, that doctor, as I said in Sydney, is able to report a scan done anywhere. So the -- so we're able to drive referrer relationships to that next stage where the referrer knows well, I'm -- even though my patients based here in location B, I'm getting one of the world's best, Australia's best radiologist based somewhere else is actually reporting on that scan. And critically, I can actually, in real time, converse with that particular radiologist I wish to through online systems that we've got through InteleOne. So I think the benefits we've got in scale are, we outpace everyone else through a combination of innovation, technology and, of course, people.
Matthew Ross
executiveYes, conscious of time, but I think there's a couple of really interesting questions here as well that lead on from what you've just said. Expanding on, I guess, the fact that there's a strong technology link in the business. Are you able to briefly give us a couple of comments on how you might leverage AI or new technology going forward and what some of the risks might be? And just to layer another question over that, just quickly give us a view on the CapEx cycle for the next couple of years for the business?
Chris Munday
executiveYes. So AI is exciting, and I -- it's exciting for radiologists, too. Don't fall into the trap, please, of thinking that radiologist or I, myself, think that AI is going to make radiologists redundant. Far from it. It is a tool that just makes it easier for them. So those 2 examples I gave during the -- during my presentation, which are good examples. The example of Paul scans that are, from several years ago that, that are prefetched. You can imagine the efficiency and that drive, so the radiologists that they -- as they open the most recent scan, one that was done yesterday, the previous cans were already there to compare. And in fact, the AI is able to overlay it. So incredible efficiency opportunities. In PET scanning, one of the AI apps that I've seen when I was in the U.S. last year, if you follow us, was to just sharpens the images materially. And again, overlays those with previous scans to show the growth in a tumor and then it was able to measure those and make radiologists' life easier. So where we'll see AI move in the next 5 to sort of 6 years, is massive improvements in efficiency. There's basic AI that -- there's AI that will help with some basic automatic diagnosis, something -- things like a fracture of the wrist is obviously easier for AI. So you'll see a slow growth in that diagnostic side. But it's really an efficiency side that you're going to see significantly. So really important to us, a priority for us. We haven't yet worked out whether we'll partner with someone or how we'll drive that, but yes, really important. The CapEx cycle you've got me on the hop in terms if I don't have the numbers in front of me how that looks. It's a fairly young fleet, I guess, is what I would say across the business. We -- our machines have a life cycle, minimum 10 to 15 years, and we can then, in certain cases, extend those under Medicare. And it is a relatively young fleet. So over the next 5 years, we'll have some of our PET machines coming up to the 10-year mark. We'll be able to extend those. I'll have to take it on notice in terms of the actual numbers because I know they exist somewhere, but I don't have them in front of me, and I don't want to mislead anyone.
Mark Flesher
executiveThat's great. Chris, thank you. We might draw it to a close here. I can tell you there's more questions coming through on the business. So I think it's a great example of what you've just given us an insight in what is an exciting sector and obviously a great opportunity within your business prospects. So we'll follow up for those who we haven't been able to answer with, maybe follow-up with yourself. And then -- so thank you very much for joining and we look forward to hearing you through the year.
Chris Munday
executiveThank you very much, and thank you for the opportunity to be in front of them and I hope next time I'm there in person. Thank you.
Mark Flesher
executiveThank you. Thanks, Chris. So now we're going to move sectors into data and connectivity, and we're going to have Will Smales join us. And I know many of you know Will, he's driven our work in this space for the last 3 or 4 years and is heavily involved in both CDC and Vodafone. So welcome, Will.
William Smales
executiveGood afternoon, everyone. Pleasure to be here virtually and hopefully, in person at some point in the future. I'll just say a few words about the digital infrastructure sector. And I think it's quite helpful to actually clarify what we mean when we talk about digital infrastructure. What we mean is it's all the physical assets that underpin a modern digital economy. So that's fiber networks, that's data centers, that's telecommunication towers, that's subsea cables. So everything that supports the storage transmission and compute of a digital economy. Now the sector pre-pandemic, we already had some very positive tailwinds. In part, that was driven by the obvious cost advantages and often better customer experiences of transacting online. I think the pandemic showed us that actually the modern digital infrastructure supports our way of life and our prosperity and our ability to carry on developing, and that transition has shown up in both New Zealand and CDC, and Jason and Greg can talk about that. Infratil shareholders have been lucky because we have been able to provide exposure to these sectors early on. CDC was an investment in 2016. And what's clear now through the activity in the sector is that actually many investors are working really hard to get access to the types of businesses that Infratil shareholders already have exposure to. Now in part, this is because through these businesses, we get privileged access to development opportunities. So through CDC, Greg is thinking about matching customers demand to build new data centers. Together with Jason and Vodafone New Zealand, we're talking about deploying New Zealand's next wave of infrastructure, which is 5G. Next slide. This is a global trend, however. And you can see through CDC and Vodafone New Zealand, Infratil shareholders have exposure to a lot of the elements you see at the bottom of the chart there. But we're working really hard at Morrison & Co to support Infratil, actually getting exposure to these trends beyond Australia and New Zealand. So whether that's in the United States or Europe or eventually in Asia. I might pause there because the more important thing is to introduce Greg and Jason, I think they were playing paper scissors rock earlier to see who went first. I think Greg won. So without further ado, can I introduce Founder and CEO of CDC Data Centers, Greg Boorer.
Greg Boorer
executiveGood morning, everybody. Hopefully, all this technology is working. Thank you very much for the warm introduction, Will, and good afternoon to everybody out there today. Echoing everyone's comments today. I wish we were doing this all in person. But if you can't do in person, you may as well do it on a platform that runs in a very, very nice data center. So it's all very good. It's been, what, 6 months since we last had a conversation and I'm looking forward to stepping through what we've done in the last 6 months and give you a bit of a sense of what we've got in front of us as well. So we'll go to the next slide. That's a disclaimer. So just remember historic performance does not guarantee future results, and go to the next slide. So I'll talk about a little bit about us today for the people that haven't -- perhaps joined the call for the first time and don't know much about CDC and what we do and then what we've achieved, and the last 6 months have been busy and what we plan to do. And then we'll go through some questions. I note that Jason and I don't get much airplay this year, so I'm not sure if we're getting shuffled along a little bit. Generally happens in these forums from time to time. So I'm a bit nervous. So if that comes across, I do apologize. We'll go to the next slide. So next slide, again, please. So what do we do? We design, build, own and operate data centers, which is really important. We really sort of have control end-to-end of our supply chain. And when I say supply chain, that's the delivery and performance of these facilities. It was interesting listening to Chris, just then, I probably should tune into these things more often. Chris all talked about completely different business to ours, but all he talked about was the opportunities that technology presented and so first things first, Chris clearly needs a data center partner. And secondly, you can see the way the world is going in that the digital infrastructure. So all of this technology, all of these services, they have to live somewhere, and they have to live somewhere where it's secure. It's highly resilient and reliable and something that increasingly, particularly post-pandemic where governments have made it clear or have been shocked into the realization that they have to be self-reliant to a degree, with sort of the local indigenous capability that they're not sort of reliant on overseas services, because who would have foreshadowed such a seismic outcome that the pandemic has presented. And that has shaped people's behavior, their working behavior, which I think those behaviors have changed for good in many ways, which then drives, again, a heavier reliance on IT and the services that we host in many ways. So what we've really focused on is that security and resilience. And the ownership in terms of data centers, it's absolutely blue chip and couldn't be better with regard to the geographies within which we operate, and that's not lost on clients, both local clients and also overseas clients that really, really want to have -- provide confidence to the countries and the governments and the large enterprises that they work with. And we'll go to the next slide. So I'm just reading my slides because they don't come up very well online screen for some reason. So since we last met, we talked and provided an update in -- sorry, in October, I think. And what have we been doing? So we've actually been very, very productive with regards to securing new clients. And so -- and that's not just our existing customer base, although we've had excellent growth through our existing customer base. It's also new strategic clients in other sectors other than just government that we're sort of very familiar with and very comfortable with. So through the National Critical Infrastructure type organizations. And when I say National Critical Infrastructure, I'm referring to organizations that, if they were to be disrupted, it would have a similar impact to if government was disrupted. So the safety and security of citizens may be interrupted, but certainly the economic prosperity of the company -- of the country would be impacted and so that's when I talk about National Critical Infrastructure. We have been busy this year. We've brought on Eastern Creek 3, which is a large development, one of the biggest ones to date. And we've also been busily building, as you can see from the picture here in Auckland. So the 2 data centers are coming out of the ground rapidly now through one of the most kind of tricky phases, which is the in-ground works, and they're all on time and on budget, which is excellent. The important -- one of the important pieces of the puzzle is always that having sort of land to grow into and data centers have very, very unique requirements and they're not -- and you can't just put them anywhere. And so we have been busy putting our foot on additional land for -- to accommodate our growth, which is very strategically and adjacently located to leverage some of the existing services around current campuses as well as completely new sort of campus opportunities as well, which is what we're working towards. We've sort of talked about the sort of 25% year-on-year growth. And I'm very, very happy to sort of say that we're on target to deliver that. So don't need too much more fanfare. Naturally enough, the growth that we experienced -- we're a capital-intensive business, so we don't have lots and lots of employees, but we certainly need lots of capital to fund the growth in the operations. And we have had preliminary conversations with quite a number of our existing banks and other lenders. And with regards to funding our quite ambitious growth projections into the future, we are in a very, very good place to secure that -- those -- the necessary debt, which is good. The most important thing in any business is the people. And I can say, since we last met, our business has grown by nearly 50% with the number of staff. And ordinarily, that might set off a few alarm bells in a lot of people's minds, and it's not lost to me. Some people think about staff where there's people there's problems, but that's not the way I look at it. We actually have terrific -- the new staff. We're really taking our time to select really high-performing individuals. The culture is terrific. And being the founder, you have a very unique opportunity to monitor the culture closely and from where you started. And when I look back, we still have this incredible can do attitude, and the staff is excellent. And so I'm really, really happy with the staffing situation from the leadership team all the way down to the -- a lot of the new starters, and that will put us in good shape to really execute, which is what we need to do over the next year or 2, execute big time to sort of keep up with demand. Never ever ruling out, like New Zealand was a bit of a pleasant surprise when that popped up in the business plan. And so we'll never ever sort of rule out new geographies, new opportunities and things like that. We spend all day, every day talking to people about what what's next. I'll go to the next slide. The development updates, a big part of what we do is our excellence around construction and our ability to build things on time, on budget to a certain standard, which gives us the foundations to be commercially and also from a differentiation perspective in the market, have those points of difference, which mean that when we are competing for business, which is what we do every day. We are in really, really good shape. So in terms of construction, New Zealand is going very, very well. Eastern Creek 3 is complete and is commissioned, and we've got the planning approvals for the entire campus. So that's up to 6 starts in a site. We're about to start construction of Eastern Creek 4, which is going to be a really sort of step change in terms of the development and delivery of CDC services in that sort of geography in Sydney. And it's going to be larger, larger -- probably the largest development that we've ever done, which we're excited about. And this is probably -- people might think it's a bit boring, but it's really, really significant for us. So it's really a multimillion-dollar investment to get the high voltage. So this is transmission grade electricity connected to our campus. And I'll note there was a question that's already been sent through, when will we start building 250-megawatt data centers the likes of which are seen overseas. Well, Eastern Creek is kind of it. With this new high-voltage connectivity transmission grade, so not relying on local networks to provide us with our electricity, but tapping into the major core transmission grade electricity. On that site alone, we can scale to over 200 megawatts. So I don't think 250-megawatt data centers are built on day 1, they sort of grow to that size over time and campus model, and that's what you're seeing at the moment. We're already working on -- we're about to start construction on Hume 4, which is, I think, a 30-plus megawatt data center. And so then we're now working on a -- sorry, Hume 5 as well. And so that's 2 new developments, large-scale developments in addition to the 2 Auckland facilities. So the team will be busy over the next 12 months or more, delivering for large-scale quality facilities that are consistent with what we've produced over the last 10 years of being in business. A lot of questions have been spoken about COVID and echoing sort of Chris' words earlier today, I can't sort of speak strongly enough about how happy I am with the team's performance over this pandemic period. We didn't have any disruptions to construction activities. And when you've got 300 to 400 workers on a site, in any given day, that's a pretty big achievement. And we worked right through all of those shutdown periods being classified as necessary activity or 2 for particularly in New South Wales. So we've done very, very well through this period. And it's been a lot of work to ensure that's the case, managing supply chains, and a lot of our supply chains were disrupted, but we managed to get right through the whole sort of delivery of the data centers this year without any interruption and all on time. And importantly, on budget. If we go to the next slide, the financial performance of the business. This is just sort of reiterating what we've talked about previously. So that sort of 25% compound annual growth rate. We'll be there or thereabouts this year, which is excellent. And what the most important thing is here on this slide, I think, is that the contracts continue to be long-term contracts. The weighted average lease expiry is significant, and that's consistent with all of the conversations we're having at the moment about additional capacity and whatnot. It's all very, very long-term and continues to layer up on top of the business that we already have which is good news. If we go -- kick down to the next page in terms of outlook on the next page again. So this is -- it's really exciting what's happening at the moment. You can see the period -- the -- sorry, the picture on the right at the bottom of the screen there. It's only a couple of years since we purchased that Eastern Creek campus, which was 15 hectares and had a very small data center 5 megawatts or so EC1 on it. And then since then, we've grown and grown. So added EC2, added EC3, about to build EC4, designing EC5 and sort of rolls off the tongue, but it's a bit surreal to actually be in the middle of it and understand how these things are designed, built and then obviously filled up at the end of the day, which is the most important thing. The demand continues to accelerate, and we are fortunate to win our fair share of the Australian data center market and we continue to grow at a rapid pace, which is good. The slide on the left, down the bottom there, that's Hume 5. Hume 5 is a new development, which we're about to start. So as the name suggest, it's the fifth data center in that sort of postcode. It's the second one on the second campus. So we have 2 campuses in Hume now. And these buildings are necessary to keep up with the pipeline that we have built, that we have incredible confidence in, but also to meet new existing and new customer sort of obligations that we have entered into, which is terrific. And so the sort of the takeaway from this sort of page is that we have lots and lots of work to do. We've actually done a lot of the hard yards with regards to securing customers and maintaining our performance to ensure our existing customers are happy with what we're doing. And we're very, very, been very good at retaining customers. But always in terms of new business -- and we've been very, very good at winning new business, which we have done consistently for more than a decade now. All those things that we're -- everything is feeding in so all the sort of Chris' sentiment earlier. All of the sort of government's response to the pandemic with regards to managing citizen vaccines, certificates and all of these things, these are all technology-driven and they are really pushing growth in data. And the growth of data has not changed at all or any way. It's still ticking along for all of our -- across our customer base at that sort of 80% compound annual growth rate in the amount of data that everyone's dealing with. And so we plan to continue to do a good job and to keep our customers happy with the view to obviously maintaining that growth rate now and into the future. We'll go to the next page. The portfolio, this is what we sort of managing at the moment. So we have the 2 main campuses. Obviously, Hume, we have 2 campuses. We're split into 2 campuses there. So you can kind of see how exciting the story is, you can see what we're currently managing around 133 megawatts of data center capacity. We're adding 77 megawatts as we speak, and a lot of that will become revenue-generating shortly after the next financial year. And so we do -- we are looking forward to a significant uptick in that next financial year from 2022. Starting in 2022, that's April 2022, but you can actually see the investments that we've made with securing land and growth options. And the conversations that we're already engaged in, you can see that we could add across, we could almost double with the land and the capabilities that we have, combined with the pipeline, which is very exciting. And something that keeps us very, very busy. So very, very confident with regards to the outlook. We've still got lots and lots of work to do. You can never ever be too complacent. And we're certainly not complacent. We get out of bed every day, and we work pretty hard. So looking ahead, the next slide, we've got a dodgy photo of a fat bloke there. Not my best day that one. I'd have to work on air brushing some of that away. But if we look at what we're looking at doing over the next period, we've got -- we're going to be commissioning the 2 data centers in Auckland, which is excellent. We continue to work with existing and new clients to secure them. And that's a relentless task. There's so many different opportunities at different layers of the sort of the IT stack from platform providers, cloud providers, software as a service providers, government, state governments, there's just so many sort of opportunities there. Half the battle is determining what the priorities are to chase, particularly in that National Critical Infrastructure space in the enterprise that we're working on. We are confident that we'll continue to have EBITDA growth beyond the next 2 or 3 years. There is so much to do. And with the capacity that we're building, Chris talked about barriers to entry earlier. The barriers to entry are significant. And although data center does seem to be the new black, everyone wants to be in the data center business, referenceability, past performance, sovereign ownership, the differentiators that we have are not something that you can replicate easily. And that also goes to the ecosystem. And so it's not just we're selling to new clients or they're coming to us because they want to be in one of our data centers to sort out a business problem. Often, it's the opportunity to be part of the ecosystem, which creates not only a solution for the business problem, but also an opportunity for new business, for those entities that are coming into the ecosystem, what makes their business practices more efficient and more effective. And certainly more secure than where they had been previously. We've got a bit of work to do. The finance team this year, just to sort of layer up our debt a little bit to ensure that we've got enough firepower to execute on the growth plan as we go through. for those entities that are coming into the ecosystem or makes their business practices more efficient and more effective and certainly more secure than they have been previously. We've got a bit of work to do. The finance team this year, just to sort of layer up our debt a little bit to ensure that we've got enough firepower to execute on the growth plan as we go through. But given the fact that we've got such a good track record, we've got a managing support from the banks. So I don't think there'll be any sort of impediments there. We're very, very strong in the hyperscale. We're very strong in government, but we do have a bit of work to do in growing new business, which is very exciting, which we've made tenuity footsteps this year, they're very, very successful footsteps in the national critical infrastructure space. As I mentioned earlier, we're continuing to scan geographies constantly and looking to grow the geographical spread of the business. And there are lots of opportunities. It's just taking the time to work through the diligence around those. So that's something that we are focused on. And yes, don't be surprised if you -- if we did make some moves in that space. And finally, the team, we mentioned the team is the most important thing to me. The people, we have great people here that run through brick walls every day to support our clients, and they'll continue -- and we'll continue to attract that type of person to CDC. And we have had a very, very good retention rate. We don't see churn in our business, which is exciting. So lots and lots of investment, lots of capital out the door next year, lots of construction next year. But then obviously, at the other end, significant jumps in revenue are expected. So that's the year ahead. And so now, I'm not sure how I'm going, pretty good. Now I've got some time for questions.
Matthew Ross
executiveThanks, Greg. Very efficient and on point, as usual, that gives us exactly 10 minutes for questions. So you must have practiced that. We'll kick off with one of the obvious questions that we've had come through. Just wondering if you could provide a little bit more background about what some of the drivers were in the December 31 valuation increase.
Greg Boorer
executiveYes, for sure. So there's a number of things. So additional data centers that were added into the model. And due to the demand, the acceleration of demand from our clients, a number of those were upsized. We also have entered into -- we've won lots of new contracts, and we've entered into lots of new obligations for significant capacity, which means that all of our existing and a portion of our -- a significant portion of our new capacity that is under construction is already spoken for. So we've got to get our skates on now, and I'm less interested in the valuation and more interested in the execution, so we can obviously realize that value.
Matthew Ross
executiveJust, I guess, moving on to a slightly different tangent. Do you have any thoughts or ambitions to build larger data centers? So the example given here is around digital reality, building 250-megawatt data centers.
Greg Boorer
executiveNo, I think digital reality is a bit more digital realty, but that's okay. When we say people are doing 250-megawatt data centers, look, it's an easy thing to say, it's a harder thing to do because you've got to fill these things as you go. And as I mentioned earlier, we have a 200-megawatt-plus campus in Sydney, one of the largest, if not the largest data center campuses in Sydney. It currently has around 60 megawatts of capacity already constructed, and we're adding another 37 megawatts as we speak, and we're designing another 37 megawatts or 40 megawatts on it. So we are already building 200-megawatt-plus data centers because when people talk about that sort of scale, it's not one building with one set of power feeds, one set of infrastructure. It's a campus model with -- that is built out slowly over time. And so we're already actually doing that, which is a far cry from where we started.
Matthew Ross
executiveI guess following on from that point, and we've had a number of questions along these lines. It'd be good to get your perspectives, firstly, on whether there are any ambitions or whether it's reality that CDC could build data centers down the bottom end of the South Island. And if that doesn't fit with the CDC model, what the impacts of the data grid proposal might be on CDC's New Zealand operations?
Greg Boorer
executiveYes, for sure. So I guess, first and foremost, you need to understand people need to think about the economics of the data center. And so people often focus on the power, but the power is actually a relatively small component of the overall cost of a data center service. So the rent element of the data center is far more significant than the consumption of power as a percentage. And even if the consumption of power is slightly reduced because of the climactic conditions, it's still a very, very small part of the cost of actually being in a data center that was the larger cost being the -- obviously, the rent, which covers the developer's cost of all of the infrastructure. We -- in terms of -- I think, these types of projects are excellent because it brings more attention to the data center industry and the opportunities that exist. My understanding, and I'm not an expert, is that there's tons of power becoming available. It's the right type of power. It's the right climate. It's got a lot going for it. But the -- one of the challenges is how remote it is. I've spent a lot of time looking at building data centers for the same reason in Tasmania, for example, it's a great idea, hydropower, exactly the sort of same circumstances, and there's a lot of power available because aluminium plants and things have stopped operating in that sort of jurisdiction. However, trying to convince organizations to go there because of the tyranny of latency, it's difficult. And people don't necessarily want to pay for that. The bandwidth over those distances and performance is important. And so I think there's a few sort of wrinkles that need to be worked through. But I'm sure the developers are thinking about that. And hopefully, they're thinking hard because it's a lot of money and a lot of effort to start greenfield when there's not a lot of digital infrastructure in that space to leverage. But in terms of our business, our businesses, our initial investments are sort of 80% consumed by pre-existing contracts. So it's not going to interrupt us too much. And the reception that we've received coming to New Zealand has actually been overwhelming. And it's -- and I can't tell you how happy I am because going to a new geography, a new country is not trivial, but it's really helped having Infratil behind us because we were sort of almost a known-trusted entity before we started.
Matthew Ross
executiveWhat are some of the, I guess, the early learnings that you've found coming into New Zealand? And perhaps how adaptable you found the CDC model to be in moving to new geographies?
Greg Boorer
executiveI think the most important learning is, I stay the hell away from the place that's more successful. So I think having big over the Australian over there would be counterproductive. And so the local New Zealand team is just doing an amazing job. And so if ain't broke don't fix it, so I'm just going to stay over here. And -- but the early learnings are that the government and also a lot of the significant organizations being government and enterprise in New Zealand have sort of wished and hoped for this type of investment. And we're talking $300 million or $400 million of investment into New Zealand. It's been exactly the right timing with the pandemic recovery underway or hopefully, post pandemic sometime soon, recovery underway. And so this type of investment, this sort of quality, these standards, which have been cut and pasted into a large degree from our secure government work in Australia has been really, really well received in New Zealand. And the scale with which we're operating is exciting for a lot of people because they have never seen infrastructure of this quality before. And I think it's been -- not many people know, but we hosted about 26 government visits to our Canberra operations from New Zealand companies and New Zealand government over the last 18 months. So we had a very, very good understanding of what was going to be required in New Zealand before it even happened.
Matthew Ross
executiveJust, I guess, broadening on the point just on the customer base for one final question, Greg. Just wondering if you could just give us a bit more information on perhaps the different kind of service offerings and what is the kind of demand for CDC services from your 3 main customers, so government, hyperscale and national critical infrastructure customers.
Greg Boorer
executiveYes. It's all the same but different. So the hyperscale organizations, they want large scale deployed very, very quickly, but they want 100% uptime, so resilience. Security is very, very important. And so that's the type of service that hyperscale organizations would like. Government, it's more bespoke. It's often higher security, often more compliance and more reporting, controls, audits and things like that, but they want the same thing, so 100% availability. They want -- they don't want to have any security issues. They just -- and so that's one element. And then national critical infrastructure, exactly the same as government. They're probably learning about a lot of the sort of more nuanced security offerings that we include. But they're excited by that because they've never seen anything like that before. And so we feel very fit in that space because of all the years of working with government and the compliance and audits and things that we've done. But increasingly, they all want to be proximate to one another and sharing data with the lowest -- the highest performance, the lowest cost and the highest security. And often that is within the same building, within the same campus or certainly within the same standardized foundational elements. So data centers, campuses, connectivity, all of those things, so that they don't have to risk sending data too far offshore, all of those things. It's much easier if it's all part of the same standardized, secure sovereign-founded ecosystem.
Mark Flesher
executiveGreg, we might -- we're just on time. We could easily keep going. So I know there's a business that's a great interest to our shareholders. So on behalf of them, I'd like to thank you for joining us again. I know the New Zealand Pinot winemakers are downgrading their earnings at the moment because you weren't able to make it over this year. So hopefully, next year, you can join us. Thank you.
Greg Boorer
executiveI'm more of a [indiscernible] myself. That's just me.
Mark Flesher
executiveThey go to those labels. Thanks very much, Greg.
Greg Boorer
executiveCheers, no worries.
Mark Flesher
executiveSo now we're going to round out the day with Jason Paris, the CEO of Vodafone. Unfortunately, Jason was going to be hosting us in this wonderful head office at Smales Farm, but we are still fortunate because we've got a good IT crew here who was able to set us up in Wellington, and we're using good facilities in Vodafone and broadband to help delivery with everything today. So welcome, Jason, and we look forward to hearing your presentation.
Jason Paris
executiveGood day, team, and I'm hosting here from my 10-year-old son's bedroom where his fee for use of the room is to make his bed for the week. So good negotiation by young William. Today, we've got John Boniciolli, who's our Chief Financial Officer, joining us from the Morrison's office in Sydney. So John will talk to a couple of slides through the presentation for us. And what you'll hear from John and I today is a solid result since we chatted last time, clear unchanged strategy, good cost discipline, some improved trading results in some areas, pretty good execution by the team, and that seize us deliver towards the upper end of Infratil's guidance for this year. And most interestingly, probably will be that we're working through a plan that would see us deliver a further 10% in EBITDA growth next financial year. Next slide, please. So all of us, when you're delivering our strong commercial results allows you to continue to focus on your ultimate vision. It's why we get discretionary effort from our people every day as -- and why they come in and they want to work for Vodafone is to use technology to transform New Zealand as live as a businesses. You heard from Jason Boyes and from Will earlier that Infratil is proud of the essential roles that the assets that they own, play in the countries and the communities that they operate in. And we do feel very privileged that over 2.5 million New Zealanders and their businesses trust us to provide them with connectivity every day. It's a privilege that we don't take lightly and especially at times like this, and I'm very proud of the team of how we've navigated through the last 12 months. Also, very privileged that Infratil and Brookfield have brought Vodafone New Zealand back home. And what you're seeing, I think, today is momentum building off the ability to execute a 100% New Zealand-focused strategy and some of the results are starting to come through. Next slide, please. So the executive summary is really that we're progressing well from a strategic perspective, and we are improving our performance on both our network and our trading parts at the business. Off the back of that strategy, we've made some prioritization calls to focus on fewer big programs of work. And that means that we could reduce some costs right across the board and remove efficiencies in areas that we were previously investing in or focusing on, they are no longer relevant when you're trying to move to a new digital telco-operating model. And the good cost discipline has allowed us to create room to reinvest really in the 4 areas that our customers care most about, which is great connectivity, great products, great service and great value. And we are starting to see those results come through. You know that we've got 5G leadership, and we continue to maintain that. And then increase in 4G and 5G capacity allows us to accelerate our FWA migrations, which is good. Through the investments that we've made in service and IT, we now have our highest-ever customer service scores, and we have our IT platforms stabilized. And at the same time, we are developing a new modern IT cloud-enabled stack and digital products in parallel. And all of that, as we compete in a very stable but competitive market, and we have had some improved trading performance, and I'll talk about that in a couple of slides. So all of that means that we're on track for Infratil's guidance and looking to build an ambitious plan for next year. So we are gathering momentum. And you'll see us continue to focus on cross-company cost reduction, targeted reinvestments on those areas that our customers care most about, further investments in our networks, onshoring some of the customer service roles where it makes sense, the first release of our digital transformation program and some improved trading results. Next slide, please. So everything that we do every day is about getting to our target operating state faster to become that world-class digital telco with materially lower costs, higher network utilization and improved customer experience, which will improve our trading performance. And we do really feel like there is an opportunity to do this more so than any other telco in this country. When I joined a couple of years ago, I think, I said that I found more challenge and more opportunity than I probably expected. And that has proven to be the case. But the way that the team is executing, we're very proud that we are progressing to that targeted digital state as fast as we are. If you look at the metrics on the next slide, please. These are all the metrics that we focus on. So clear strategy, cost discipline. We still feel like there's cost efficiencies and improvement to go within the business, and the program has real momentum. It's right across the organization, and embraced by all of the team. So we'll continue to see cost reduction over the next 12 months. Tradings [ ember ], because it's probably a mixed result, some within our control and some outside of our control. Clearly, COVID has had an impact on us, especially than the traveler and roaming and seasonal work in market, and we get disproportionately hit in New Zealand because of the Vodafone brand and our strength and our roaming market. And then our consumer broadband performance hasn't been as where I would like it to be, but of late because we've kind of reluctantly met the market on pricing and have launched a very compelling super WiFi proposition, we are starting to see some improved trading performance in what continues to be a highly competitive market. And postpaid mobile across consumer and business has been the standout performer for me. This year as our pre to postpaid customer migration has really gone well and our endless data proposition and leadership in that space has resonated with both our consumer and business mobile segment customers. I've touched on our network strategy. And again, no surprises there on what we're focusing on. And those investments that we've made on stabilizing our legacy IT, we're still serving our customers on 4 different technology stacks. So the way that our people are serving our customers with their complexity, I think, is absolutely incredible. Our IT team is doing a brilliant job of stabilizing that legacy ITs to the point it's the most stable that's ever been. And as I've mentioned, we've got our best-ever customer experience results since media started at Vodafone. It doesn't mean we are where we want to be yet, and we're definitely not resting on our laurels. And that means that we need to continue to retire and simplify and automate and digitize and all those catch phrases to us, to make sure that we provide an even better customer experience for our customers over the next 12 months. I'm going to hand -- pause there and hand over to JB. He's going to give you a little bit more flavor on the FY '21 and FY '22 financials and also a bit more detail on the strategic investments that we have been making and will make. JB?
John Boniciolli
executiveThank you, Jason, and good afternoon, everybody. If you go to the next slide. I'm going to take a few minutes and cover off FY '21 performance, FY '22 outlook and the investment priorities for FY '22. Starting with FY '21, we're seeing performance improvement in postpaid mobile with strong quarter 3 connections rate and improving ARPU trends, a greater proportion of our base moves to in market plans. Prepaid has been disproportionately impacted, as Jason referenced due to C-19 borders closures and specifically, the high exposure of our prepaid base to travelers and line of workers. And fixed broadband, as James -- as Jason referenced, is challenging, largely due to the competitive intensity in the market, and we've put some actions in place, which gives us like super WiFi launch gives us increasing confidence, but definitely remains challenging. In terms of cost improvement, our cost -- our rapid cost-out program is on track, and it's enabling reinvestment in FY '21 into our strategic priorities being network and IT stability, customer experience, pointed to investments in our customer product and value, greater network utilization and connectivity and digitization, automation and simplification. Our cost-out program [indiscernible] covers every aspect of our cost base and also addresses the cash flows associated with that cost base. And we've built strong momentum off the back of really good caters to the capability built over the last 1 to 2 years. Moving to C-19 impact, just reconfirming what we said, last year that we expect the C-19 impact in FY '21 between $60 million and $75 million. And just to remind everyone, the major driver of that C-19 trading impact is the border closures and the loss of the high-margin inbound and outbound roaming revenue, combined with the impact on prepaid that I just mentioned earlier. Now in terms of FY '22 and C-19, we expect those impacts to persist in just FY '22. We're not assuming any change into the border closures. But of course -- and even if that did change, it would take time for that traffic, that international traffic to progressively build as it's most likely to be a progressive build out opening of the borders. Now C-19, look, still have some uncertainty. It's associated both the global and New Zealand macroeconomics, and we watch that closely every day. And that all leads to what Jason said at the beginning was -- and we're currently tracking towards the upper end of the Infratil guidance for FY '21. Now moving into the FY '22. We expect our cost-out momentum to continue absolutely, given the investment we have to do with the capability we've built. Secondly, continue to drive and expect to drive further improvements in our trading invention across our key products and customer segments, and we'll invest in those continued priorities I just mentioned earlier. Yes. This statement should not be referred to or viewed as a guidance statement. But as we're still completing our FY '22, our planning activities, but those activities aren't even asked some confidence around 10% increase in FY '22 EBITDA. Next slide, please. Just moving to our strategic investments for FY '22. There's 5 key areas. Firstly, core network expansion as demand for our network services increases. And that includes the 5G expansion, improvements to our 4G and upgrades, FWA acceleration and HFC upgrade. Secondly, investment into our digital stack, too, I guess, so with the legacy complexity of our business, as Jason referenced earlier. Thirdly, pointed investments in customer experience in our existing processes, platforms and products, including an ongoing simplification, digitization, automation, et cetera. Vodafone group separation and a great example of that would be investing into our ARP, and finally, spectrum. And when I am on reference spectrum, I'm specifically referring to the renewal of the 1,800 and 2,100 spectrum rights, which expires on 31st March this year. Thank you. With that, Jason, I'll hand back to you.
Jason Paris
executiveThanks, JB. Again, next slide, thank you very much. So this is a slide that you will be familiar with, increasingly familiar with. So nothing has changed on our strategy. We've got 2 businesses within one, a Newco and Servco and a variety of opportunities with a niche. So if we can move to the next slide, please. So from a network forward perspective, John just outlined a lot of the strategic investments that we have been making are in this area. And all of these investments and focuses are about increasing the utilization and the efficiency of our mobile and fixed networks. We've referred a few times now to the competitiveness of the broadband market. I think it's one of the most competitive in the world at a retail level. And it's really driving prices down at retail -- from a retail perspective. And when you've got high regulated input prices on the supply side from the LFCs, clearly means that when customers have an opportunity to move to an on-net technology solution that Vodafone owns that will provide them a better or similar experience than clearly [Technical Difficulty] the opportunity to move them across to that access. And so fixed wireless access and HFC are 2 products that we will continue to focus on over the next 12 months. 5G is a big part of creating the capacity for fixed wireless access, but we'll also be making some targeted regional network investments where we think there's opportunity to better serve our customers, win some market share and provide a better capacity coverage and speed in some of the regions. And I've mentioned before, scaling wholesale. And we've really invested more in our wholesale capability, which we think will pay off over the next 12 months. What I wanted to talk about, though, on network forward is infrastructure, asset monetization. If you look at the current industry economics, this means we do need to think about all opportunities where we can reduce cost and capital requirements and realize any additional value within our network assets. And there's a trend clearly internationally to do more of this and collaborate on networks and infrastructure. And this needs to happen in New Zealand, too. We do believe that this would lead to a much faster rollout of the best connectivity across the country, including to the regions and communities that are underserved today. And as I talk about our vision of making sure that everyone who wants great digital connectivity can get it. That's what we've seen happen off the back of smart collaboration on networks and infrastructure. Just makes good sense where assets are underused or it's uneconomic for a single operator to invest in these assets. And I think we've already seen that the RCG model is a good example of collaboration working well. And so as our more and partnership with 2degrees, we will give them access to a certain number of our mobile towers. In all of these cases, strong wholesale and retail competition remains and actually is enabled by the sharing of these assets. And on the eve of 5G rollout, which, as you know, we're committed to, given our leadership position, we think that 5G infrastructure provides the obvious opportunities for -- to look at sharing. And then finally, we have a very attractive set of fixed and mobile network assets, just without a doubt, one of the reasons that Brookfield and Infratil were interested in buying Vodafone New Zealand and with that ownership change came a great deal of infrastructure experience around our Board table from Brookfield and Infratil that we clearly utilize. So with lots of deals being done around the world, including in Australia emerging, we continue to actively assess our long-term infrastructure asset monetization opportunities. Next slide, please. When it comes to remarkable simplicity, I think, John and I have bamboozled you with acronyms, and you'll hear that from all telcos around the world, simplifying, modernizing digitizing, automating, all of those key words. What that basically means is moving to a lower-cost operating model, a materially lower-cost operating model. And at the same time that enables an increase and a significant increase to customer experience, which leads to improved trading, both at a bottom line and also top line in terms of winning more customers and market. You've heard that our cost discipline will continue. I'm very proud of this program and the momentum that it's got and how it gives us optionality to improve the bottom line or to double and triple down on those strategic areas that our customers care the most about. And clearly, that has meant that we have been able to invest in IT stability and also on customer service. We've got 100% of our business, call center back in New Zealand. So any time a business customer needs to talk to someone, they'll be helped by someone in New Zealand. And we've moved the majority of roles and consumer also back to New Zealand. Those ones that make sense for us to do so because they're not going to be -- they're more focused on the complex technical issues that won't be automated or digitized out through our digital features program of work. And that's the medium to long-term opportunity for remarkable simplicity. We have got a new IT platform provider. The team is progressing with the rollout of this IT platform, which will give us a lower cost, cloud-enabled, more stable, agile, faster-to-move infrastructure. But it's a missed opportunity if we also don't take the opportunity to digitize and simplify our products and our experiences end-to-end. So that's really what we see as the long-term opportunity in moving to that end state that we outlined of being a world-leading digital telco. And then lastly, none of this happens -- so next slide, thank you. None of this happens without great people. And so we're very happy with our employment brand [Audio Gap] and retaining the best people when we need them. The organization has embraced new ways of working really, really quickly. And then off the back of this more detailed prioritization that we're executing through our strategy, that will mean that we invest less and, in fact, stop and remove activity in the organization that no longer is valued by our customers and accelerate to a faster, leaner operating model that better serves our customers by only focusing on the things that our customers care the most about. So in summary, we feel like we've -- we're in a -- we're delivering some pretty solid results. I think navigating through a pandemic, getting to the upper end of Infratil guidance, building a plan to deliver 10% next year while funding our strategic investments, it's a pretty solid result. And as we've outlined, it will be more of the same for us with the ongoing momentum that we've created over the last kind of 18 months. So I'll pause there, Matt and Flesh and go to any questions.
Matthew Ross
executiveThanks, Jason. Great timing. Again, that gives us about 10 minutes for questions before we wrap up. I guess kicking off just around the IT program, it'd be good to just get a little bit more detail from you around the IT transformation. How should we expect to see that show up? And how will that impact customers?
Jason Paris
executiveSo it's in kind of 2 parts, as I mentioned before. One is kind of our IT infrastructure. And we've signed a partner with -- signed a deal with an international partner that will see us move to a lower cost, more stable IT platform. That's one. We'll -- over the next 12 months, our look to start to migrate customers across onto that platform from legacy. And at the same time, as those customers migrate to that platform, they'll get the benefit of newer digital end-to-end products and customer experiences. So we're targeting the kind of back end of this calendar year for the first technology drop and then progressively migrating customers from that point in time.
Matthew Ross
executiveSo when you've talked about remarkable simplicity, I guess, you talked about deploying a lower-cost model. How do you ensure that, that translates to a better customer experience? It would be just good to understand whether there's any tension or trade-off between those 2 areas.
Jason Paris
executiveYes. We actually believe they work together -- because all we're doing is basically removing the legacy and complexity of world telco. And that dramatically reduces the cost to serve and the cost to operate in the business but also removes any friction points that customers are experiencing today. So we can operate this business in a more data-driven, automated, digital way, which is actually what customers want. Turbos, I think, have historically lagged behind in terms of best-in-class digital experience, what you can do on your websites, what you can do in your app. And I think this provides Vodafone with an opportunity. When Vodafone New Zealand was up for sale for about 5 to 7 years, they didn't take the opportunity to modernize and simplify and integrate the IT infrastructure of Telstra and Vodafone and ihug and WorldxChange and Farmside. And because technology has moved up -- moved along so much in the last 5 to 7 years. Now that we've got owners prepared to invest and understand the opportunity that's available to us because technology has moved on so much. It really does create an opportunity for us to create a customer experience advantage. And at the same time, materially lower our costs to operate. But it's one of those things with a big technology program, they are always difficult to execute, easy to say. So we're not underestimating the challenges of the build, not underestimating the challenges of customer migration, making sure that it's a positive experience for our customers. But we're confident that the team that's working one at the moment have got a plan in place to ensure that and ensure that we execute it well.
Matthew Ross
executiveIn terms, I guess, of the other part of the technology rollout to around 5G, obviously, that was kicking into full gear around this time last year and paused for a bit. Were there any, I guess, big impacts or changes in that 5G rollout as a result of the COVID pauses?
Jason Paris
executiveNot -- although my wholesale and infrastructure Director, Tony, would say he wants more money now, go faster and harder all the time. But look, 5G in terms of the business opportunity, we've already got our core partnerships underway and with New Zealand police, banking, waste management. So we've got a lot of demand from our business customers on 5G network use case testing. And then the other benefit for 5G really was the additional capacity that would create in terms of fixed wireless access. The cost of modems for 5G fixed wireless access is probably prohibitive at this point in time, but we see that changing next year, which means we don't believe that we've lost any 5G FWA opportunity. And we had significant 4G capacity for us to continue to meet our fixed wireless access migration target which, as JB mentioned, we've met for this financial year.
Matthew Ross
executiveQuick question on the other aspects of spectrum, the 1,800 to 2,100 spectrum. Is that -- have you made a call on the payment terms of that? Is it the 1-year or 5-year plan?
Jason Paris
executiveYes, we have. JB, you might come...
John Boniciolli
executiveYes. So we've taken the option to pay that over 6 annual installments because we look at our capital management makes some sense. I mean that's what we've done.
Matthew Ross
executiveIt's probably a great segue. We'll stick with you for a second there, John, I think. Some quick comments on what the expected impacts on COVID might be on FY '22. And any comments on what you're forecasting for Trans-Tasman travel?
John Boniciolli
executiveYes. I covered that at up earlier, when I said the C-19 impacts in '21, we see persisting in FY '22, and there's minimal PTP impact in '22 versus '21. So that's point one. But we're just -- what I think -- maybe what I will do is explain just the drivers of the FY '22 EBITDA. There's 4 key drivers: One is C-19 impacts that I referenced. Two, it's the trading performance. Three, it's cost out, including the reduction in terms of network input costs as we moved more to on-net. And lastly, our investments. So in FY '21, those -- combination of those 4 drivers lead to a flattish EBITDA. But in '22 whilst the C-19 impact persists, it's smaller an PTP basis. And therefore, it's the sum of those other 3 drivers that lead to the EBITDA outlook for '22. Before Christmas, I was -- many of us were expecting maybe a more positive view on border's AP sooner and quicker. I think as we're guiding to the New Year, as I said, we've largely held our border closure assumptions constant '21 versus '22. And as I've mentioned earlier, entering the border's too open, it will take some time for traffic to build to clean up the C-19 levels, hence, those 4 drivers and what it means to that '22 outlook.
Matthew Ross
executiveThanks, John. Just to, I guess, a follow-on question to some of the earlier comments and perhaps one for you, Jason. Are you able to talk about the ongoing relationship with Vodafone Plc? Some of those services that you're still kind of acquiring from the parent or the ex-parent company?
Jason Paris
executiveVery strong relationship and happy with the products that would love to pay them less for them, Matt. So but we've kind of -- we said we've created the best of both world, some of this ownership change, and we already have. And we're happy with the service that we get and the partnership that we've got from Vodafone Plc. Here to say the mix of services that we get us changing. So we are redistributing the value and to areas that we see greater now than what we first expected and reducing in the areas that we think we're getting less value. And over time, clearly, they're aware and that it's a big investment that we make, and we're always looking to reduce it and get efficiencies.
Matthew Ross
executiveEarlier, you talked about the network and the reliability. Do you have any other targets on the tip of your tongue around what your expectations are on network reliability and how you think you're tracking against these?
Jason Paris
executiveYes. Again, Tony will be yelling at the thing about how awesome our metro network performance is in the latest results that have just been done comparing us with Spark and 2degrees and how proud he is of them. But he would also say that in some of our -- and in some of our regions, we're not where we want to be. And so we actually -- we're pretty happy overall with our network performance, especially withstanding the huge traffic increases that we've had from both a mobile and fixed perspective in terms of data usage. So we think we're really proud of how our network has held up. But I think our profile in terms of picking a couple of regions for us to start to target for the mobile network investment, a system that we think there's opportunity there for us. It's not only improving EBIT performance, but off the back of that, gain some market share in those regions. Fixed with a second owners of -- second largest owner of fixed infrastructure behind course in New Zealand with our mix of unique fiber and HFC network assets. We're really proud of those. We think that's another opportunity for us in the market. And then from an IT perspective, I think our IT Director, he had 300 outstanding issues about 12 months ago. And over the last year, he's reduced that down to under 100, which means at any given time, we've got a much more stable IT platform and infrastructure, even though it's still a legacy infrastructure as we build our new digital one in parallel. So such words, very proud of what our network and IT teams have done. And I think the other ones to mentioned from an infrastructure perspective, you kind of make your own luck. But we're delighted that from a cybersecurity perspective, the investments that we've made in our teams and in our partners and our technology have ensured that our customers have not been impacted by our cybersecurity event, and might it may comes down to our cyber defense team doing just an outstanding job.
Mark Flesher
executiveThanks, Jason. We might -- thanks, Jason. We might finish off there. So we know also, you've got a service fee payment to make, to Will to make his bed. So got a couple of things to do there before 5. So can I thank you and John and the rest of your team, Rich and everyone, who's helped pull this presentation together. It's always good to get an update on the business. So thank you for joining us.
Jason Paris
executiveNo worries.
Mark Flesher
executiveThank you. And now I might hand it back to the Chairman of Vodafone and the outgoing CEO.
Marko Bogoievski
executiveYes. Thank you, Flesh, and thank you, Jason, for the presentation. So there is a glossary at the end of the presentation, by the way. So if you like, 3 of the acronyms, they're at the very end there for you to follow. So thanks, JP and JB. It's also -- I mean, having an Investor Day in February is actually quite a tricky thing for some of our portfolio entities. We're typically at the very end of not just FY '22 planning, but sort of our 3-year planning cycles. And as you know, Infratil holds some of its investments alongside coinvestors, and they also have to go through their processes to get committed to Board outcomes. So we're right at the final stages at Vodafone as well. But we're getting the sort of indications that give us confidence that was expressed by Jason and John. So guys, thank you for that. Just reflecting on the whole day, I don't know, JB, if you want to say anything before saying goodbye to everyone.
John Boniciolli
executiveYes, why not.
Marko Bogoievski
executiveAnd I'm happy to chip in at the very end.
John Boniciolli
executive[Audio Gap] Hopefully, you get the sense, as we were trying to pay at the beginning, that there's no shortage of ideas or opportunities that the scarcity is really in capability and flexible capital, which is where Morrison & Co and Infratil focused. And it's hard not to feel right that a lot of these investments, I can't think of one that I would make an exception of here on the cusp of an even bigger step change than we have seen over the last couple of years. So I'll just leave it there actually because I think you've definitely deserved the last word, mate.
Marko Bogoievski
executiveOkay thanks. You'll get 10 years. But the other -- I mean, the other reflection that occurs to me is, I mean, you could spend a day on any one of these businesses. I think that's clear. They're all substantial in their own right, that's their own interesting set of prospects. So on the round there spectacular as a portfolio, that's incredible to feel like you're sort of proud involvement, if you like, that comes with ownership of some of these platforms. And each Chief Executive today, I mean, an outstanding job, I think, a clear presentation of hopes and aspirations and plans and confidence levels. And the pride comes through in different ways in all the presentations. So thank you for that. I think in aggregate, if you wrap that up with sort of Morrison & Co active management around an optimized portfolio, that's where you generate these excess returns, and hence, our confidence around not just valuation, but sort of a long-term continuation of the sorts of returns we've seen, fortunate IPO back in 1994. The other thing about platforms as opposed to single entities is the sort of pipeline of opportunities. I think, again, every presentation did a nice job of explaining not just next year's investment opportunities, but more of a 3- to 5-year view on where capital could be deployed. I think you don't need a spreadsheet to figure out that actually, the opportunities are larger than our existing capital base. So we have the luxury here at sort of Morrison & Co and Infratil HQ to try to figure out alongside Phillippa's capital equation, the priorities, the sequences, what gives us the biggest returns, and what create sort of longer-term, more powerful compounding of excess returns, not just short-term hits to the portfolio. So it's a very fortunate position to be in. And that sort of visibility gives us confidence. And it should come through, I guess, in the presentations we've had today. Other than that, I think, hopefully, you appreciated the transparency. I mean, again, none of these presentations are rehearsed. I can guarantee you that. Hopefully, there's some consistency in the messages that are coming through. And so again, appreciate the support and the contributions that each portfolio entities made and all the [ EMCO ] people have contributed as well. We haven't talked much about our co-investors. An important part of our model as you just heard our involvement with Brookfield, sort of global infrastructure investor, but also with the future fund, New Zealand Super fund, Commonwealth Super Corporation, these are effectively all Australasia selling wealth funds, very sophisticated investors on their own rights, deciding on their own volition to work alongside Infratil. Huge endorsement. They've got strong capital programs of their own. And these are sort of partners you want to do business with. So when you're buying an Infratil share, just bear in mind, right, you're buying access to the management teams you heard from, say, the pipeline of opportunities, the access to capital, working alongside sophisticated co-investors, all wrapped in a sort of tie to Morrison & Co management plan. So I think it's a pretty good deal at $7.50. I think we've done it all right. In aggregate, how to [Audio Gap] to and then our full year results, which I believe is May 19. So I will -- actually, at that stage, I think, Jason and Phillippa will be talking you through our next phase of growth. So again, thank you for all your attention today and interest. Thank you.
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