PagerDuty, Inc. (PD) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 14, 2020

New York Stock Exchange US Information Technology Software conference_presentation 27 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Luv Sodha

analyst
#1

Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Jefferies software virtual conference. I hope you and your families are staying safe and healthy. My name is Luv Sodha, and I'm part of the Jefferies software equity research team. Please join me in welcoming the PagerDuty team. PagerDuty is a leading platform for real-time operations. Representing them today are Jennifer Tejada, CEO; and Howard Wilson, CFO. So thank you both for joining us in these very difficult times. I know you guys are joining us from the West Coast. So hopefully the wildfires out there are subsiding a little bit. And maybe to start out with just a quick question to level set all investors at a high level. Maybe could you guys talk about what is PagerDuty's vision as a company? And what is the company's true north?

Jennifer Tejada

executive
#2

Well, thank you so much for having us, and I appreciate everyone joining us today for Jefferies' virtual conference. I wish we could all be together. I'm getting pretty tired of this virtual thing, despite not missing my commute. I actually could go for a 5-hour flight where I could get some deep thinking done and not be bothered by family members or my dog. So let's talk a little bit about PagerDuty. Now PagerDuty is nearly a 12-year-old company. And it was founded on the idea that you should be able to leverage machine learning and software detection to identify critical issues or challenges within your business and orchestrate work across the right individuals on the right teams, as opposed to kind of the one-in all-in that we often see around incident and crisis management. And that has really evolved over the last decade as DevOps has become mainstream culture and methodology within technical communities, both at start-ups and innovative cloud-native companies but also in large, more traditional transforming enterprises. And PagerDuty today serves nearly 60% of the Fortune 100. And I think that is because you see all of these organizations that are really transforming and modernizing their IT environments, in service of the customer who's frankly going to almost always now meet them online. And the nature of online consumer behavior is that consumers want a perfect experience. They want it in seconds, not minutes. And if it doesn't work out, they'll choose another competitor. They'll delete your app. And unfortunately, the technology that delivers that type of experience has become increasingly more complex with cloud migration, distributed architectures, even SaaS applications. It's getting harder and harder for development and technology organizations to manage the complexity that's proliferating in the digital ecosystem to support those consumer experiences. So PagerDuty's north star is our customers and their success, and you can see that in the loyalty of our customers. So we see less than 5% of starting ARR churn in any given year, and that's been true about our business since the very beginning. And I think the reason for that is because, one, PagerDuty is -- has -- we invested a lot of time and energy in architecting for resiliency and high security at scale. We have to be up when the rest of the world is down. PagerDuty gets the right signals to the right person or the right team at the right time, so you don't get false positives. You don't get notified for something that isn't important or isn't specific to you. And that is increasingly important in a world that's gotten very noisy. Our vision over time is that PagerDuty really becomes the platform of record for all real-time work across the business. And I want to talk a little bit about the future of work because we used to go into the office and look at our calendar and do what our calendar said and deal with very structured predictable projects and working environments. And if something went wrong, you had days or weeks to solve it. You raise a ticket, you work with a team of people, and you would eventually sort that out. Increasingly, more of our work is unpredictable. It's emergent. It happens in a spontaneous way. Our teams are distributed, so it's hard to determine who you need to help you support managing an issue that's come up that may be affecting a high proportion of your top line revenue or your brand reputation or the customer experience. And so we've really built a platform that detects that work, automatically orchestrates the workload and the process to get the right teams and the right problems coordinated and working together to solve them. And increasingly we're automating more and more of the resolution so that that organization can get to recovery and hopefully deal with an issue before it becomes a customer problem, before a customer's tweeting around Twitter. And we see our customers adopting new use cases beyond the developer community in IT, in IT ops, in security and increasingly in customer service. Because these teams are inextricably linked, and yet historically they've worked on different platforms within different cultures using different methodologies. And that does not serve this real-time customer problem very well. So that's a little bit about where we're going.

Luv Sodha

analyst
#3

Perfect. That's awesome. Maybe could you talk a little bit about the opportunity ahead, the TAM of the company, if you will? And you mentioned a little bit about the core customers in the IT users. But how has the product evolved over time to service the broader range of customers you mentioned?

Jennifer Tejada

executive
#4

Sure. Well, we think the TAM is huge, and frankly very nascent and early. And the reason I say that, when we went public, we actually did a number of research work, a lot of research work to determine the TAM purely for incident management and incident response. And that TAM on its own is $25 billion. And we broke that down to the number of users available to us in engineering communities and IT organizations, et cetera. And what we find in customer engagements is that most of the time, we are not replacing another solution within a customer. They are engaging in DevOps and automating their incident response processes for the first time. We're often replacing manual solutions, phone trees, email distribution list, WhatsApp channels, et cetera. So I think the market is actually just starting to meet us in terms of recognizing that this process of incident response, of detecting an issue and automating the orchestration of work and teams to manage that issue and then resolving that issue, that automation is becoming increasingly important because the technology they're dealing with is too complex to manually handle anymore. The stakes are getting higher. I talked a little bit about the consumer experience. And we know that for e-commerce players, a minute of disruption, not downtime, but just your -- the cash register is not working the way it's supposed to online, can cost over $0.5 million a minute in lost revenue and unplanned labor costs, not to mention it being very counterproductive. And I believe that number is going up, given the fact that most of our customers have shifted from being partially online to almost entirely online. So as the mix of their revenue shifts to digital, we think those stakes get even higher, so this has become increasingly important. You need AI and machine learning to make sense of all the data. You'll hear a lot from the APM providers, the observability, et cetera. And they're producing a lot of information and a lot of data, but they're not actioning it. We actually orchestrate the action around a highly correlated well-filtered signal. So instead of sending many alerts to many teams and having those teams try and figure things out, we send the one notification and the set of work instructions that matters to the team of 6 or 8 that needs to -- that has the expertise and the ownership of those services to deal with them effectively. And that is a very new and modern approach, very different from ITIL, which is command and control, very sequential, requires a lot of time, but really not built for a real-time environment. So we can automate a lot of basic work, the mundane work. And increasingly we're using machine learning and nearly 12 years of data in our platform to automate some of the harder stuff as well. So you'll hear us talking a lot about automation, how we're leveraging AI and machine learning to do that in the future. But I think it's a very early opportunity. I think it's an early TAM. I think COVID caused people to take a step back for a moment to get their remote workers deployed with laptops, to make sure they had their security environments up and running, et cetera. But we think COVID is actually accelerating cloud adoption, cloud migration and digital transformation, and that long term that's a tailwind for us.

Howard Wilson

executive
#5

And I would just add in terms of as Jen mentioned, at IPO we did some detailed work on trying to understand what the opportunity looked like. And we identified that there's about 22 million developers who could be potential users of PagerDuty, 19 million folks in IT and security ops and another 44 million in customer service. And the reason we selected those groups is because we already see traction. Of course, most of our users today sit in dev and IT, but we're already seeing 80% of our customers, in addition to using us in dev and IT, are also using us in other use cases like security and customer service. So that was the buildup for us, so 85 million users at least was the starting point.

Luv Sodha

analyst
#6

Perfect. Thank you for the color there. Maybe -- so you guys both mentioned that we are living in unprecedented times today. You guys are seeing tailwinds to your business from the acceleration we've seen in digital transformation and remote work. That positive impact has been offset to a certain degree by reduced spending in certain verticals. And you noted this past quarter that you're progressively seeing stronger pipeline activity as things come back online. And so could you provide more color as to what you're seeing out in the field? Has the sequential improvement that you noted in your remarks during the earnings call, has that sustained? And in your case, do the positives sort of outweigh the negatives?

Jennifer Tejada

executive
#7

Well, I definitely think long term, the positives outweigh the negatives. Because to my point earlier, I think everything that we're seeing this transition to businesses really going online as their primary platform for doing business, it kind of makes digital the new operating system. And that bodes very well for us because we essentially help customers, whether they're hybrid and they have on-prem and legacy environments to manage and bricks-and-mortar store environments, or they're cloud-native digitals and they really want to make sure that everything they do delivers a great outcome for customers. We're very, I think, strongly positioned in both of those types of environments. And so as what we've seen is a very strong pipeline coming into this quarter. And as the quarter has begun to unfold, some continued momentum and a lot of interest from customers in terms of really turning to, "Okay, now that I've gotten sort of the initial survival issues out of the way, how do I now transform my dev and my IT organization to support this new world, which looks like it's going to be our new world going forward?" And so I think we feel good about that from a long-term perspective. Howard, anything you want to add there?

Howard Wilson

executive
#8

Yes. I think the other piece that's been an indicator for us of some strong momentum is really just the fact that our customers are using the platform in earnest, right? So since the beginning of the pandemic, we've seen close to a 40% increase in the usage of our platform in terms of the number of incidents that have been created. So that's a clear signal to us that our customers are using the platform. What we find even more compelling is the fact that their time to resolve incidents has actually improved by nearly 15% over that same time period. So clearly customers are getting value out of the platform. And we also see customers continuing to grow and expand with us. So now consistently every quarter, we see roughly 1/3 of our customers in the mid-market and enterprise do some sort of expansion transaction with us. The one thing we did note as the pandemic and recession has started to unfold, there has been smaller transaction sizes, but the momentum there of continuing to expand is very encouraging. And we see the confidence and the trust. We sometimes use the term we've operationalized the trust that our customers put in this. And that's certainly evident. We're helping them in what's really a critical time.

Luv Sodha

analyst
#9

Perfect. Maybe -- so one thing that Jen mentioned earlier was that obviously you guys help some of your customers through the cloud migration journey. One thing that we've noticed as we've done -- hosted multiple CIOs is that the pandemic really has accelerated that migration to the cloud. So maybe could you walk us through like a customer example of how you've assisted a customer who is going through that cloud migration journey? And then do you work with all of the cloud service vendors, or you work well with some specifically?

Jennifer Tejada

executive
#10

Yes. I'll tackle that. Howard, feel free to jump in. Well, we service customers in any cloud environment. And in fact we integrate to over 370 solutions and also allow customers to build integrations themselves using our API. So we're integrating to customers that are using GCP, Oracle, Amazon and Azure. Zoom is a really great example of a customer that had to undertake some very rapid scaling and cloud migration to support that. And Eric always refers to himself as PagerDuty employee 550. He is a tremendous fan of PagerDuty because they are very reliant on us, not to just manage incidents, and in their case incidents have been up significantly, but also to leverage our event intelligence to see events storms coming, to forecast and predict issues and manage those issues before they become broad-scale problems. And I think Zoom is probably one of the best examples of a company that has truly been tested by unique unprecedented demand as a result of this. And they definitely see us as someone who helps them operationalize the trust they have with their customers, many of which are new. They're children going to school. They are people working online. They're communities trying to get together. So as they brought in Oracle, as they broadened their cloud footprint, we've been with them every step of the way. Another example I can think of is a large U.S. broadcasting company that's really shifting its business model to online streaming and digital. And they're really leveraging PagerDuty as the backbone or the spine for their entire modern operations environment as they leverage cloud, but still have to manage their internal networking resources in their internal data centers. And so there's an example where we're helping someone straddle kind of the old world and the new world successfully, both when hundreds of millions of dollars are on the line in terms of online advertising during big moments in sports and entertainment. And I think the best way to think about cloud migration and how we leverage it is if you look at our customer base, what you'll see is we have very early innovators, people who are progressively pushing cloud to the limit, using PagerDuty from the very beginning. And at the same time, you'll see more traditional companies like Nordstrom or the New York Times that are making a transition; or NVIDIA who was a very ambitious plan to really support AI and computing in the future. So a really nice blend. And then we also saw a lot of what I think of as stay-at-home beneficiaries that have continued to expand with PagerDuty during this time. Peloton would be a great example. DoorDash, Shopify, and Electronic Arts where people are at home gaming. So I think when you see some of these expansions that happen repeatedly over time, and you see customers continue to double down with us, it's very encouraging, particularly when we look at new product attach as well. So we've seen, I think very strong new product attach in the last quarter, 18% of our customers attaching new products. And that's also a good sign that some of the more strategic initiatives we've invested in are starting to take hold in the market.

Luv Sodha

analyst
#11

Perfect. Did you have anything to add, Howard?

Howard Wilson

executive
#12

Oh yes. I think maybe just to continue on that thought of Jen's, one of the things that has been encouraging for us in terms of that new product adoption has been our digital operations plan. And that digital operations plan really allows organizations to in some ways accelerate their maturity in terms of how they manage their real-time environment. Because it incorporates not only our original offering around on-call management and incident response, but actually take it up a level to be able to very systematically use the intelligence that you're building, which is enabled by the machine learning that we have, to be able to prevent more incidents from happening. So prevent unnecessary work, to help you to resolve issues much faster, because we're leveraging that database to help you see things that look similar, so that you can act proactively. So we saw really good seat expansion in the -- with the digital operations plan, and it now represents 15% of our annual recurring revenues. So that is something that we feel really proud of. And we're pleased to see that our customers are getting real value out of that more expansive solution. And this is helping them deliver on their promises to their customers.

Luv Sodha

analyst
#13

Got it. Maybe one, I know you just mentioned the expansion rate. Maybe could you walk investors through like what the land and expand would look like? What product are you sort of landing with and what's driving the expand? And then is that, the expand, is that what drove sort of your billings performance this past quarter? Was that sort of a contributor, if you will?

Howard Wilson

executive
#14

Sure. So I think what's interesting about PagerDuty is that the majority of our lands happen online, and they happen typically small. It's like a small team. So a lot of the cases where someone starts out with PagerDuty, it might be starting with a small team of just a handful of people. And once that team starts using PagerDuty, often other teams see that they're using PagerDuty and say they would like some of that too. And so there's this viral effect because it moves from team to team. So often it's around solving an initial problem, which may be coming off the back of a bad incident. Or it might be a case of looking at they're moving some new application into production. Or it might be cloud migration or a larger digital transformation initiative. But often it's a small land that then goes from team to team. And then our larger expansions are often driven through our sales team engaging around larger, broad initiatives. So one example that comes to mind is a company where we had already started to get a reasonable footfall across a number of different teams. They brought in a new CIO. The CIO then led an agile transformation. That agile transformation then meant that they wanted to move to more of a DevOps model with full-service ownership. That meant that they then had a broader initiative, which meant more of their users, more of their engineers on call. And then it was -- as that gained some momentum, there were other parts of the business around the customer service side, who then realized that for them to have better visibility around customer-facing incidents, that they could leverage PagerDuty. So that led to another large expansion. So that's often the motion that we see in the enterprise.

Luv Sodha

analyst
#15

Got it. Perfect. Maybe one on competition. Could you share how PagerDuty is differentiated in terms of its offerings from competitors, be it Atlassian Opsgenie or ServiceNow? Sort of what differentiates PagerDuty in the marketplace?

Jennifer Tejada

executive
#16

Sure. I'll take a crack at that. I mean first of all, just to remind investors that we -- most of our deals are uncontested. And again, that goes back to being, I think, a large addressable market and an early market and room for many players in that regard. But second of all, we're very unique in the category, not just because we created the category both of on-call alerting and notifications and more recently digital operations. But we really leveraged the fact that we believed DevOps was going to come mainstream and thought about how do you not just detect a signal and filter noise, but how do you actually orchestrate the work itself across teams. That workflow and that process has changed dramatically in the last decade. And traditional ticketing queues and sequential form automation like the old way of doing ITIL just didn't serve real-time work. And that's increasingly obvious when you see all of these businesses having to move online for the first time. Mom-and-pop restaurants having to come up with delivery mechanisms and large companies having to have 90% of their stores closed and engage purely with their customers online. And so in the world we're in now, using a ticket system takes hours, sometimes days. It does not serve the immediacy and the requirements that consumers and employees have for our customers and their brands today. And when I talked about the stakes being high, remember, it's probably at least $500,000 a minute if you are a meaningful retailer or e-commerce player out in the world today. And that's -- we're not talking about sites going down. We're talking about subtle issues that maybe stopped you, Luv, from being able to buy the T-shirt you want to buy, or the pizza you want to order, or get online to see a football game with fake noise from the stadium and everything as we're seeing. And I think what and what makes us very differentiated from competitors is not only the fact that we own that entire workflow, that we're actually orchestrating the work all the way to closing the loop and recovering the environment, as opposed to just like pointing a team to a problem. We do that with these 370-plus integrations that mean we sit truly at the heart of the digital ecosystem. We have much broader visibility to what's going on in the digital environment. And because of our APIs, we can connect to anything that will send a software signal. So we talked about a customer, a biotech customer that is using us in their manufacturing environment this quarter where they're leveraging sensors in manufacturing to improve the efficiency delivery of their manufacturing environment. Like you're not going to hear that from our other competitors in the same way. The other thing I would say is PagerDuty is built in the cloud. It is designed for the cloud. It is very easy to adopt and easy to use. So in the example that Howard's talked about, most of our customers start with a few integrations. They have simple use cases like, "I'm coming off a back of a bad incident, and I don't want to have that happen again. So I'm going to put a better safety net in place." Or they're migrating or adopting the cloud and shifting a payload to the cloud. They want to ensure that goes well. Or they have a new job, or they're launching a product. And they want eyes and ears understanding what's happening in the environment in production from that transition from build to run. And then they want to ensure that anything that could potentially go wrong, they catch before it impacts customers. Our event intelligence, which is where the bulk of our machine learning and our automation lives, really drives a huge amount of value for users because it does a lot of the work for you. It filters a lot of the noise, it gets the right people involved. It makes suggestions on what you should actually do. It allows you to leverage previous incident resolutions that have worked, et cetera. None of our competitors do anything like that. So as we see customers move truly to digital operations and mature, their digital operations as a company, that becomes more multifunctional. It becomes more complicated. It requires machine learning and the proprietary data that we bring to help automate more and more of that process.

Luv Sodha

analyst
#17

Perfect. We'll leave it at that. So wish you all the best on PagerDuty Virtual Global Summit, which is happening in a week.

Jennifer Tejada

executive
#18

Yes. We hope you'll join us on the 21st. We just broke the news today that Andy Jassy's going to join us along with Bret Taylor from Salesforce and Derrick Johnson from the NAACP. It's going to be a really interesting and incredible couple of days.

Luv Sodha

analyst
#19

Perfect. Thank you both.

Howard Wilson

executive
#20

Thank you, Luv.

Jennifer Tejada

executive
#21

Thanks for having us.

Howard Wilson

executive
#22

Thanks for having us.

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