RingCentral, Inc. (RNG) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 5, 2025

NYSE US Information Technology Software shareholder_meeting 219 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Steven Horwitz

executive
#1

All right. Good morning, New York, and good morning, good afternoon and good evening to everybody listening to us on the webcast. Thank you for joining us today. So hopefully, you get a chance to take a look at our safe harbor statement. You've seen it before, I'm sure, with our many, many earnings calls and these presentations. So just keep this in mind as we go through the comments today as well as when you're watching the replay of this, okay? All right. So today, we're going to cover a number of topics. We're going to be talking about, obviously, the corporate strategy and overall approach to how we're incorporating AI. Then we're going to get a little bit deeper into the innovation we're bringing forth with that strategy and how it goes into the products. We will show you -- discuss many of the products and show you them that we're going to move on, and you're going to get a chance to hear from our customers, from our channel partners and from our global service providers. And then we're going to finish up and do some Q&A. So the -- before we bring up Vlad, I just -- as many of you know, I'm relatively new here at RingCentral. I've been here for just a couple of weeks. And I spent some time -- actually, many of you covered Coupa software. I was there. And so it's good to see some familiar faces. The question that I've been getting asked is why did you join RingCentral? Why? Because I'm an investor like you, I'm investing my time, my career in joining RingCentral. And I was thinking back to my time at Coupa, where some of the most common questions I was getting was how is your free cash flow? How is your operating margin? How is -- are you focusing on stock-based comp, GAAP EPS, all of the things that RingCentral is excelling at right now. I was getting those questions all the time. So I think there's a big opportunity here for investors. And obviously, I'm not going to talk about valuation, but I think we have -- there's an opportunity. I'm excited to be a big part of it. So without further ado, I'm going to welcome Vladimir Shmunis on to the stage.

Vladimir Shmunis

executive
#2

Great. Thank you, Steve. So I'm somewhat less news than Steve here. Great to see everyone. Thank you for making time on your very busy day. We'll try to make it worth your while, obviously. So again, I'm Vlad Shmunis, Founder, Chairman and CEO of RingCentral. This is my fourth time at the exchange. I think this is the first time we're so close to Thanksgiving. So our RingCentral Orange is mission appropriate at this point. Okay. So without further ado, look, so voice. So sometimes we hear that who needs voice, business voice is dead, and it's all going to be video, messaging and other means. Voice is what makes us human. That is the official definition of human race, it happens to be that we speak and no other animal does. It's far, far from dead. As a matter of fact, and we'll show you some hard data, we are seeing more voice, not less voice. We're seeing more voice on our network as a whole, more voice per customer, per user, et cetera. Voice is actually going through renaissance at this point, which is, believe it or not, being fueled by AI. So the other thing we hear sometimes is AI is going to eat voice, not so much. Voice is actually the new UI for human-to-human interactions. And clearly, with our leadership position in business voice, we're extremely well positioned to leverage and extend this trend. The rest of this presentation and day will be to share our experiences and our direction here with you. So RingCentral, for those of you new to the story, we happen to be a global leader in business voice. We are actually the original company who took business phone or business PBX into the cloud. And many people still think of RingCentral as a phone, which we are. We do have the world's best phone for business. We strongly believe that. But we're not in the phone business. We're in the business of customer engagement. And this is very important for people to realize. The connections that we make in the end, we are in business of connecting people to people. But these are not necessarily one-on-one connections, me calling Steven, but in many cases and growing the number of cases, it's consumers calling or texting their brands via RingCentral. That is customer engagement. We'll talk a bit more about that. So this customer engagement that we had a pretty heavy hand in establishing as a category, it's now being revolutionized via agentic voice AI, okay? And what makes RingCentral in a unique position to lead this next phase of really what is next technological revolution is the fact that we have very deep roots. We'll talk about those in a second. We have one of the world's largest and most robust networks. Very importantly, are the people. We have about 7,000 associates in the company as a whole, of which 2,000 are technical people, engineers, laser-focused on innovation in business voice, in customer engagement and now with agentic voice AI. We are here to stay. We're here to win. Okay. Look, numbers don't lie. We remain a strong leader in business voice by revenue, okay? This is a third-party slide from an industry analyst called Synergy Research. They're considered to be the ultimate expert in these types of matters. And as you can see, RingCentral continues to dominate. Our market share is approximately 20%. And it's -- sometimes some people try to catch up a bit, but then it generally stabilizes. With AI, we believe our leadership position will be further fortified, okay? We truly see RingCentral. You saw our opening slide. We truly see RingCentral as a voice of your business. This is how we position ourselves to our very large customer base. And again, numbers are not lying. The market tends to agree with that. Okay. So why is voice so important and will remain important? It's for one simple reason. People call on their brands. People call on their business service providers. If you -- this one is maybe a little bit hard to read. But if you see our top verticals, they include health care, financial services, retail, personal and consumer services, transportation, et cetera. And if you think about it, what do you do when you need to contact your dentist. You tend to call their office, at least I do. You tend to call your credit union. You tend to call your local pizza joint for delivery, okay? These trends are here to stay. And we have 500,000 businesses, 0.5 million businesses and about 8 million users on our system that are leveraging this -- that are leveraging and addressing this need. Okay. I promise to say a few words about route. So here is our route system, okay? So RingCentral started a bit over quarter century ago. That's a long time. But we started out by building a robust foundation. So we've built -- invented and built strictly speaking, what is to this day, one of the world's largest, most reliable and feature-rich business networks -- business communications networks or platforms, which again, this case remains to be to this day. We started out -- this is a bit of ancient history. We started out with a product called RingCentral Office. We now call it RingEX for employee engagement. This product was very well received. And starting literally from scratch, we have built now a business, as many of you know, we're a bit over $2.5 billion in revenue, starting from 0, that seems an okay position to be in. We are printing over $0.5 billion in free cash flow. Steven alluded to some financial metrics. This is a product day, so I'm not going to go there very deep. But if you look at our numbers, our free cash flow growth, free cash flow per share, management of SBC, all of them have really been on a tear and growing in strong double digits or better. Okay. Back to the product. So we're processing tens of billions of voice minutes per year, and this is growing, okay? We are processing over 1 billion voice calls and 0.25 billion of SMS texts every month. Again, from what we can tell, this is world scale. And again, I really want to impress you with how robust our core solution is. But having said all of this, this was then. That was then, okay? So RingCentral 2.0, okay? This was a few years ago when we realized the need to -- an opportunity to transform ourselves into a multiproduct portfolio company. So what we did is we extended our RingEX, our business phone with a full digital collaboration suite. So that would be video messaging, hybrid events. And very importantly, we've introduced our very own dedicated AI-led, AI-first contact center solution, which we call RingCX. You will hear a lot more about RingCX here, here some customers, partners and the senior management team that's responsible for this product is here to answer any questions during the break. Okay. A few more words about employees and customers. So -- sometimes people think that these are silos that there is employee-to-employer communication. That's on the left here. Yes. So that's personal calls, okay? And then there are dedicated contact centers, your 800-FLOWERS or United Airlines, those are the examples people usually come up with. And sometimes people think that the two shall never meet, that they are different solutions. You've got UC, UCaaS and CCaaS. Well, it so happens that situation is not so simple, okay? As you can see, according to IDC, there is -- and we see this firsthand, there is a very clear need for lightweight or hybrid contact centers, okay? And the difference between this use case and the dedicated contact center is just that. You have employees in your office, doing whatever creative work, selling, et cetera. But when the customer calls, they get to pick up the phone. So there is this overlap. So this is where people are still talking to consumers directly, but they have other work responsibilities. So the reality is that there is this new area that's emerging called Customer Engagement. And today, we've introduced our first customer engagement bundle, which addresses specifically this use case. So this is where you have, call it, a lightweight contact center with consumers calling a business. So they're not calling a business person by name. They're calling into a business and this call or text is being fielded by one of the personnel, okay? So between RingEX, our new customer engagement bundle, which is basically a tier of RingEX. And RingCX, we now have complete solution from very, very small to very, very large. Okay. Again, numbers don't lie. So if you look at use of RingEX in these lightweight contact centers, over 1/3 of our inbound calls are -- and again, we're talking billions here. Over 1/3 of our inbound calls are for this use case. We have another measure we look at is, so how many people are actually engaged? How many of these non-dedicated contact center agents are using our platform? Well, it happens to be well over 1 million. So this could make us one of the largest contact center providers in the world through the cloud. But again, in fairness with the caveat that these are not your traditional dedicated contact centers, which are in the end addressed by CX. Okay. So on that note, CX. So CX is about a year old, okay? And I believe it was the fastest CX or contact center product to reach 1,000 customers in individual accounts like in history. So now we have a bit over 1,000, 1,350 accounts, a little bit over that, and triple-digit growth year-over-year. So we're pretty happy with that. Having said that, we're just scratching the surface. There is still a lot of on-prem left. And over time, this -- and over time, most of the seats will end up in the cloud. With RingCX, we're absolutely taking market share with market growing in low to mid-double digits, call it, teens and with RingCX being in strong triple digits. Okay. So we've talked about 2.0, but that's not what we're here to talk about really. We're talking about RingCentral 3.0, okay? So what is RingCentral 3.0? So this 3 keeps on giving. Based on this platform, based on all of our experience with serving customer engagement needs from very small to medium to large to very large, we believe we are in a very unique position to lead this next phase in technology revolution. It's not evolution, it's revolution at this point, okay? So this week, we've introduced our agentic voice AI suite, which is comprised of the three As: AIR, AVA and ACE. What is AIR? It's an AI receptionist that answers your call before a human gets involved. What is AVA? It's an AI virtual assistant that monitors the call and provides useful hints and in certain cases, performs actions during a human-to-human interaction, okay? If you will, AVA is a form of a copilot. AIR is a form of an IVA, okay? And ACE, which we used to call RingSense, but now with some additions and enhancements, it's more than just making sense of Rings. It stands for AI communication -- AI conversation expert, ACE, okay? So this is where transcripts are being processed and analyzed for things like emotion, successful completion of a customer requests and other learnings that can be shared with an organization. Many people talk about AI, and it simply doesn't make sense to be in tech anymore and not want to have AI agents as part of your solution. What makes RingCentral uniquely positioned is, we simply happen to be most upstream, okay? So when people initiate a business transaction, again, they tend to call or they tend to text. And in that, they will, in many cases, hit RingEX or RingCX, okay? So Ring is answering the phone. Therefore, we are in a unique position to apply AI at the very get-go, which is exactly what we're doing with AIR as well as throughout the life cycle. Now clearly, every business provider -- business service provider will have their own AI. We are not going to do it all. But once we process what -- and we can address whatever we are addressing, then we are transferring to Salesforce ServiceNow, whomever it is, then we're transferring to specialists. But the first interaction, we're just in a good position to capture that. Okay. So again, I already mentioned, we have AI for now every phase of a transaction. And we will go into a lot more depth in the next few hours and let you experience and see how it works in real life. Okay. Here's a super interesting point. It's a virtuous circle. Everything is working together. AIR answers your phone, AVA aids during the conversation, ACE analyzes these learnings, the analysis are being fed back into AIR, back into AVA and then back into ACE. So the system is self-learning, self-modifying. And in the end, it's about generating progressively better outcomes for our customers. Our strong core belief is that a happy customer is a loyal customer and being that we have now transitioned ourselves or are transitioning more precisely from a just a transactional services provider into now a data repository, we think that this is what is going to fuel the next phase of our development as a company. Okay. Progress, again, numbers, not lying. Our new product portfolio is a little bit better than doubling year-over-year. There is quite a bit of action and energy in the field with many companies being funded and pretty nice valuations, certainly more power to them. But I don't think too many can boast this type of success, okay, to get from 0 to $100 million in 2 years, from $50 million to over $100 million plus in 1 year. We feel pretty good about it. Yes, it is still under 5% of our $2.5 billion revenue, but we absolutely have our sights on these new products, which are growing in triple digits, sometimes in triple digits sequentially. We have strong conviction that we will be at least 10% of our revenues within a couple of years and hopefully better than that. So this is our future here. Nothing is for free. And we are fortunate to be able to spend approximately $0.5 billion on product and tech every year. And majority of that spend is now dedicated to our AI-first portfolio. This is significant. Frankly, we think it's hard to match by many, if not most start-ups. And we are absolutely intent on keeping our laser focus on applying all of this energy to this one very important area of AI-led customer engagement. Okay. Routes to Market. You can have the best product in the world if 3 falling in the forest back to my 3 analogy. If nobody knows about it, it's probably not going to succeed. If you don't have a good product and you're screaming at the top of your lungs, you're also not going to succeed. But here, we happen to have both together. So we have a direct sales force, about 2,000 people strong, okay? It just so happens we have 2,000 engineers, 2,000 salespeople, okay, for whatever reason. But very importantly, we've talked over years about trust innovation. So we've talked a bit about trust today, reliability, innovation, rest of this presentation, partnerships. Partnerships are key to RingCentral. And with that in mind, we've built a network of channel partners over 16,000 strong. So these are individual businesses. As far as feet on the street, it's over 100,000. That's unique in the industry. Very importantly, we have this unique and absolutely differentiated channel via global service providers. So as you can see, some of the logos here are household names, AT&T, British Telecom, Charter Communications, Cox, Vodafone, et cetera. This list is growing. And very importantly, and I think it's an industry first that we know, many of these people are now picking up our multiproduct portfolio, including some of our newest products, for example AIR. In particular, we have just announced -- or more precisely, AT&T just announced that they're picking up AIR, putting it through their rather significant channel. We could not be happier than that -- could not be happier with that. And we think that this thing can go places with people like AT&T and a number of others reselling. Okay. Last, by far, far not least, team, okay? So like I say, about 7,000 people in the company with deep experience in our chosen field. This is our management team. And look, frankly, sometimes we hear, well, management turnover, some people came and went. That is true, but the core has stayed. If we actually went through this exercise. So if you add tenures of just the folks on this slide, it happens to be 150 years. That's a lot. Original architect of our technology is still with the company. He's sitting right there somewhere. You can raise your hand [indiscernible]. So if you have questions, that's him. Head of Engineering is here also for over 25 years. Kira has been with us for over 12 years and has led our product, our marketing and is now leading all day-to-day operations, so on and so forth, I don't need to bore you. Very importantly, we have a very deep bench with our 2,000 engineers, some of them literally going back decades. We're extremely fortunate in having this workforce in this powerhouse. And we truly believe that this field is our tools at this point. So without further ado -- with a little bit further ado, why? So why? Why? In the end, this is NYSE, and it is about dollars and cents. And there's lots and lots of dollars still to be had, okay? So in the bottom left here, you see the current markets that we are playing in, right? So that's, of course, UCaaS, still and not insignificant, approximately $30 billion market. It CCaaS, not that far behind at over $20 billion. Revenue intelligence. So ACE is a bit of a player in that. But all of this is going to be dwarfed by the emerging AI for customer experience and engagement. And this is estimated, I think it's a Gartner slide. It's estimated at $65 billion. Added all together, $150 billion, we're $2.5. We think we have a bit of open space still ahead of us. So again, this is my fourth time here at the exchange, hopefully, by far, not the last. And now [indiscernible], now that I've practiced [indiscernible] without further ado, here is Kira.

Kira Makagon

executive
#3

Thank you, Vlad. And hello, and thank you all for being here. I couldn't be more excited for the time that we're in. Vlad just described an incredible future for us for RingCentral, an incredible TAM that we're all staring at and are here to take advantage of. And -- let me start with our vision, summarizing everything that Vlad just covered. Our vision is that of building one Agentic Voice AI platform, where voice is really the springboard for all modalities of communication so that we basically unify in our conversation AI technology, every phase of the conversation and capture every moment, every insight, so that what we achieve out of that are outcomes. And that is really the value that we bring to our customers. Voice is, which is the most ubiquitous. It is the natural way that people communicate. Voice is the new UI, voice is most expressive. Voice is what we do better than anybody else, voice in the cloud. We are the clear leader and have deep roots and a growing ecosystem, and that will continues to grow. So with that, very early in the year, I actually outlined these 3 strategic priorities for us, which encompass our execution journey. One is continue to build upon our leadership with voice and now continue to build upon that with agentic voice AI, truly agentic. Second is grow our addressable market, grow our TAM, and it's led by our product, RingCX, which came into existence as part of RingCentral 2.0 and is now part of RingCentral 3.0 with a growing ecosystem of AI modules around it. And then finally, look, we're all going through a time of transformation. Every aspect of our company, every product, everything that we do is being transformed. And this is really what everybody is going through. We will show you how we run RingCentral on RingCentral and how we do what we do with doing more for less and more efficiently. And that is just the beginning of our journey as the company itself transforms with AI. So to sum up, how we're leading the future of voice -- of agentic voice AI and what are the stages, just summarizing where we are. We're in 3.0. And the 3.0, we're innovating faster than we've ever been, and we've always been a fast innovator. I even told ourselves that we have a history of market first. So yet, we're making the history of market first once again with RingCentral 3.0. We made a number of announcements on Monday. And let me just summarize them all in one place. AIR, product that rolled out at the beginning of the year, a lot more enhancements, a lot more value for our customers. AI Virtual Assistant, your copilot that basically is your assistance throughout your journey as a user, whether you're an employee of an employee, an agent and any job that you are, if you're using our product, then you have AVA that assists you. ACE that analyzes, summarizes and coaches you as well. RingWEM, which is the new addition to the suite, which is the combination of all of the quality management modules, including now our acquisition from CommunityWFM that builds up a suite of performance management for customer support agents, for example. And Vlad explained what customer engagement bundle is, which is really our formalization of capabilities for informal contact center or contact center light users. These new products, and they are all new products considering our history and considering how deep we go with our RingEX product, how deep our roots are, are growing extremely rapidly. Like look at the growth of AIR, look at the trajectory right here from essentially launching it in controlled availability in February to today having 5,800 customers and customers continue to sign up and customers continue to buy more of AIR, because it just does so much more for any one individual business, the enablement of never having to miss a call of now being able to set appointments whether these are, by the way, appointments, phone appointment, a video appointment, any kind of appointment that you can set. Doing things like contextual transfer. If AIR for some reason, cannot answer a call, then the AIR will transfer with context to a human being, and we'll show you more of how that works. And finally, look, every business wants to make money. So now with AIR, it's possible to capture lease. So no opportunity ever goes missed. And this is the test -- I mean, the customers are really the proof of that this thing is working. RingCX, Vlad mentioned rapid growth now at over 1,300 customers growing rapidly and innovating rapidly from a base product that does contact center management to adding a lot more AI so that, that contact center, the modern contact center is managed in the most efficient way. And some of the problems in contact centers that people have to solve is agent churn. That is a big problem. How do you solve this? You help the agent, you help the manager, you help the supervisor to basically coach them, monitor them and make the shifts operate more effectively. There are still a lot of human agents there assisted by virtual agents, and that is what this combination of the modules that we rolled out put together achieves. ACE, AI conversation expert, also rapid growth. Look at that kind of -- we like -- we call them the charts up and to the right. And when products -- newly introduced products do up and to the right, that means that customers like this [Technical Difficulty] we do this with our customers, and we have some of our channel partners in the audience, ask them how ACE helps them in their business. We're turning data into insights, data into outcomes, helping businesses beyond communications, helping businesses run their businesses better. And so let me just give you a couple of examples. Nothing -- again, nothing is a better testimonial to what we do than actually our customers. And nothing is better, especially to you people here in finance -- in financial industry, numbers speak volumes, right? So here's an example of a customer. This is a Fortune 500 insurance company that adopted [Technical Difficulty] they have enabled thousands of independent agents of this insurance conglomerate with RingCentral, starting with only '23 with a full RingEX rollout, then expanding that RingEX rollout based on the success of RingEX rollout, and this is typical of our customers. Our customers often start with an initial deployment of the product and then extend it. They expand it as they adapted [Technical Difficulty] for this customer of $6.8 million ultimately was achieved with adding RingEX and AI attached to RingEX that we will show you today in the demo. And the thing that is important here is beyond sort of rolling out these products. What's important is how we're transforming their business. We're transforming their customer experiences. And this is the value that RingCentral brings to our customers. The value in the transformation from being sort of in a dungeon with a PBX in somewhere in the basement or a customer engagement system being somewhere in the basement to this, which is a live system, which learns and adopts. And here's another example. This is a national casual restaurant chain that's growing very rapidly. These guys are adding 100 restaurants in a quarter or something like that, very rapid growth. They now have 900 throughout the country, and maybe that number now is higher. Again, they started with purchasing RingEX as their base core cloud phone system. They then expanded their RingEX deployment, getting to 1.5 uplift. And then we can see a 10x uplift to becoming a fairly sizable customer as they deployed it throughout all of their stores as they were bringing up stores online, every store -- sorry, every restaurant runs RingCentral and it runs RingCX. It runs ACE, it drives the quality management, and they continue to expand. And what's wonderful about this is that when we ask them, okay, so what's the value created? Better customer experience, certainly. But what is the actual value created? Can you try to quantify it? This is the number that's not coming from us. That's the number that's coming from them, 250% overall ROI with our products. This is why customers buy our products, and this is why we do what we do. Another example, this is a regional tire & auto service retailer. What's wonderful about these customers, this is what runs -- these are examples of what runs America. This is the companies and businesses that we all engage with every day. This is not just a cloud brand, like a big brand sort of in the sky. These are real businesses. And these real businesses need to solve day-to-day real business problems that we experience every day. And because of how many customers that we have, I'm sure that when you experience -- when you contact these businesses for customer support or any of the interactions and if it's a business running on RingCentral, hopefully, the experience is delightful. And that's what we try to do is make the sort of common American businesses delightful. So this tire company, again, started with RingEX, which is often a case for our products because that is our base and core product and what we're most known for. And then again, expanded with RingCX, ACE. And here, you see a 3x uplift in their total spend with us. And it so happens that it coincides with that their revenue rose 50% in that same time. So we'd like to believe that we're helping that company grow and delight their customers. And this is a good example of all these customers that I'm giving to you -- that I'm showing you of how our technology comes together for real growth for real outcomes. And then finally, this is a relatively small customer. This is an industrial equipment small business provider. They started and they purchased RingEX and purchased it for their needs. They're a small shop. 5,000, okay, well, they actually showed me 5,000. Well, because, first of all, we have a lot of small businesses running on RingCentral. And together, small businesses comprise a big chunk of our revenue as a company because America runs on small businesses because the world runs on small businesses. But what are we doing for these small businesses? Now with AIR, for example, we can increase wallet share for us. So we're doubling here going from 5,000 to 10,000. And the customer has now been able to never miss a call, be able to not have to hire extra front office receptionist, having to have all of the communication that comes through the front office, analyzed without actually having a human having to answer that call. And these guys get a lot of calls. Within a short period of time, they've actually extended AIR usage several times. And we love customers like that because this is solving, again, real problems with real outcomes. And while it has big words like AI around it, the real thing is this is AI helping humans run their businesses. So I talked earlier mentioned that we will tell you exactly how we use RingCentral. And this is an example of what we call RingCentral on RingCentral. We wouldn't be doing justice to our products if we weren't customer 0, and we're always customer 0 with all our products. So I'll show you just a couple of stats here. For sales, and this is Akshay's organization right there. He's sitting in the audience, amazing stat. Once they deployed ACE to all of the customer reps in North America, they were able to achieve a 10% quota increase for those using the product. That's like humongous, right? That -- it means that these reps are working more efficiently and that actually doesn't have to hire as many as the business is growing. In customer support, which actually also runs RingCX plus AVA plus AIR. So what does it do? With ACE -- I'm sorry, with AVA for quality management now within our customer support with Agent Assist, we're able to cut down average handle time for customer support by 15%. Again, what does that mean? That actually means beyond efficiency, customer delight because if customers' questions can be addressed faster with more accuracy, that creates customer loyalty and that's what we want as RingCentral for our customers, and that's what our customers want for their customers, obviously. With AIR, which is a relatively simple product, the beauty of it that it's very, very easy to install. It's very, very easy to change. It's very easy to adapt to the evolving needs of any business. And here at RingCentral, we have customers who call us on a number of what we call queues. So we were able to take the 20% of that volume already and put it on AIR. And that means that any call that comes in into that queue is answered by AIR. And again, for us, that [Technical Difficulty] and then combining sales and customer support, we were able to quickly deploy our RingWEM, which is a new module based on the acquisition of CommunityWFM and the rest of our AI quality management tools for agent performance to our 2,000 agents throughout our company, being able to score 100% of their interactions. All of that is just in a couple of weeks. There are, I guarantee you, not that many products in workforce engagement management that can be deployed to this size of a contact center in a matter of weeks. And again, that speaks to our values, RingCentral simplicity, ease of use, ease of deployment, ease of administration. [Audio Gap] the whole agentic voice AI voice platform is put together. This is a combination of all our products put together. And without further ado, I will pass it on to John to actually show you how. Thank you.

John Finch

executive
#4

Good morning, everybody. My name is John Finch. I head up Product Marketing here at RingCentral. I like to say that I have 6 years of service. I've been at RingCentral earlier in my career, spent some time in some other places and have come back, and I'm really proud of the things that we're going to show you today. Everything has been about innovation and driving that innovation into the market for further success. And I sort of have the fun part of the presentation, if I may, because we've done a lot of great things with regards to these products, and they're really showcasing well in terms of how our customers are adopting them and using them to change the way that they do business and see the value of AI. So if we think about the value of artificial intelligence and how that seeds into what we do from an AI agentic business communications portfolio, it's really about the outcomes. Customers aren't buying products that have AI inserted in them for the sake of it, right? They're doing things to never miss a call, to book appointments, to capture leads, to provide customer service 24/7, to gain productivity, to improve and tighten business operations, staff efficiency -- efficiently, sorry, as well as understand CSAT, customer satisfaction across the board. These are tangible things that businesses are looking for us to give them the ROI and understand how AI is helping them. As Vlad and Kira also talked a lot about, we have a view of this of before, during and after the conversation. And I think this is a great way to showcase each of these products that we announced in the last couple of days, and really kind of show you exactly how the day in the life of, number one, a lightweight or formal contact center or customer engagement solution with RingEX will operate as well as number two, a formalized contact center and how that works where you're staffing agents and ensuring that customer engagement is happening inside of an organization. Before I do that, though, let's have a little fun. I'm going to show you a video that we've put out there as we're having fun in introducing AIR into the marketplace. And I got to say this thing is pretty good. So let me show you. [Presentation]

John Finch

executive
#5

Pretty good. Let's see a round of applause for that one. I mean we've been having a lot of fun with AIR, and it's been having a lot of fun with us in the market as well. I mean, significant adoption, as you saw from Kira and Vlad, and we're continuing to innovate. Let's talk a little bit more about AIR. Air has been around since the beginning of the year. We did preannouncements on this product, and we've never seen something in the marketplace like this. The adoption of a product so significant that's AI and voice first is phenomenal. Each quarter, we've continued to innovate on this product. And the innovations continue to grow in its skill set and its abilities to answer questions and drive intelligent interactions across customers, so that businesses of all sizes never miss an opportunity and never miss a call. And this doesn't just now work with RingCentral's phone system. This works across any phone system. That's significant. Second daily to that, we've added some new things around calendar and booking appointments. Vlad mentioned calling into the dentist. I think most of us still do that. And that ability for this digital worker with the skill to book an appointment on behalf of a receptionist that could do other work inside the dental office, while that appointment is completely booked on calendars with Microsoft and Google, and soon to be many others, provides them with the real tools necessary to not have to staff that front desk to do that menial kind of work. In addition to missing calls, being able to capture the leads that are coming in, document those inside the knowledge base and even push those to a CRM are very important. So it provides businesses of all sizes that ability to actually handle those incoming opportunities. Next, let's talk about the contextual handoff. Kira mentioned that, and you'll see this in the demo. It's pretty cool because it actually provides the ability for AIR to handle an interaction up to a certain point, and then pass all that context off to the human being who will take that call and continue the conversation intelligently. No more of this, let me repeat myself 1,000 times and create frustration that many of us have had throughout the years. And finally, video, a dynamic RCV link that is sent via text message or an SMS message to a customer or a patient to actually invoke a live video conference on the spot on the mobile device. So as you all know, with our video, you don't have to download anything. You can use a web interactive tool. This provides that link and you can drive right from the app. Let's take a look at AVA and how easy it is to set up -- sorry, AIR, how easy it is to set up. [Presentation]

John Finch

executive
#6

So that's the setup. That's how easy that is. Less than a couple of seconds to actually really set that up. And the ability for this solution, as Vlad had mentioned, to continue to learn and grow and perform better is all in the hands of the humans behind this. So the information that goes into the knowledge base, the FAQs, the website and other inputs that are made into the product as well as its ability to continue to grow over time and understand more, and you to be able to operationalize and optimize that solution continuously with the reporting and analytics that are on top of that is a significant value add to anybody in any business. If you don't even have that time to optimize, it's going to continue to do better work for you, the more it interacts with your customers. Let's take a look at what this looks like as a call-in from an actual call in to AIR. [Presentation]

John Finch

executive
#7

There is the text message at the top and it's opened and the link and the information about the scheduled appointment. And now it's being transferred to a live agent. So what we're going to see on the next screen is the information that comes across to the agent who picks up the call. All the context and information and the agent's ability to leverage and utilize their tools, their AI tools like AIR and AVA to then pick up the conversation and continue the dialogue and solve the customer's issue. So pretty amazing, right? The impact of AIR has been pretty significant. These are just a representative of three different companies that have utilized and leveraged AIR with some significant results. They've been providing these customers with the outcomes and improvements on their business operations every day. Obviously, with 5,800 customers that we have today in the market using this product, we've got a significant bunch more that you can find on our website. But Access Integrated Health uses AIR to increase their patient intake, and they've seen an uptick of about 60% and increasing their revenue from utilizing AIR by $1.7 million. That's pretty good for an organization of that size. Televero Health has seen direct increase in customer satisfaction of 97% by utilizing AIR. They're not letting phone calls go on the wayside or ring no answer or going to a call queue or no one may answer that for a lengthy period of time. So that satisfaction has gone up significantly. And West Virginia 211 has the ability now to take 100-plus locations and effectively route 40,000 annual calls to the right locations inside that organization, so in West Virginia. So pretty significant results, and we're seeing this across the board as AIR continues its momentum in the market. If you want, you can take a picture of Natalie, who is our Agentic Air solution, and you can interact with her on your own. It's very great demo. You can call 1-844-5 try AIR, if you remember that. And you can interact. She'll tell you everything and anything that you want about herself, and you can even challenge her. I challenge you to challenge her and see if she'll go off base. I promise you she won't. Now let's talk about AVA. So we had great reception in terms of AVA in the marketplace as we launched this on Monday. And I think we have a lot more great things with her to come. In terms of being a virtual assistant across the board, right now, think of her as providing the notes and summaries for meetings and calls and chats. She's her copilot working alongside of you in your day-to-day inside RingCentral RingEX. She drives real-time insights. She drives prompts and information to help you to uncover the use of all of the products across the portfolio. So she's going to guide you through setup. She's going to guide you through discovery of information, and she's going to jump right to the areas for an administrator that are typically difficult to find or perceived, difficult to find. And it automates the setup of those administrative tasks as well, like changing time zones, business hours, other things. So she's not just across voice, she's also across video, she'll be across contact center and she'll be across the entire portfolio. And as we continue to release because what we announced on Monday was an early adopter sign-up program, we will continue to innovate upon her capabilities to really be proven in the market and significantly up-level RingCentral's users' experience across the board. So let's take a look at what AVA does. [Presentation]

John Finch

executive
#8

So you saw here some very basic components, right? But I think as we go forward, you're going to start to see more and more of how AVA is going to interact across the board. So remember, video conferencing, meetings, events, contact center and the full portfolio of capabilities that we have across the board. So super excited about this. Stay tuned for more to come. This is definitely a flagship capability from RingCentral. Now let's talk about ACE. ACE is pretty cool. ACE is the new name for what we once called RingSense. And it really is taking and unlocking the data behind what your organization has to surface information on business insights. So I will start out with what's new today, and then I'll back into a little bit about the product that's been out for a couple of years because it has been out for a couple of years, and it's an amazing product all in all. What we have now that's new are those items I have listed there, which is the ability to surface key business insights to spot churn and potential risks with organization -- with customers that you have and track cancellations and friction that might be going on. What ACE has always been able to do is act as a universal solution to help improve the performance of teams or organizations or business divisions inside your organization like sales or an informal lightweight contact center solution or customer engagement solution to be able to coach those people to do better, to be able to perform better, to provide better customer service, to sell more faster. And all of the information that's transcribed during these conversations is also uploaded into a CRM, if necessary. So all those customer conversations across the board can be taken and put into the CRM for the record of the organization. Additionally, analyzing customer sentiment, as Vlad mentioned as well, a huge component, how is the customer feeling, how can you react to that? All of these key triggers go into overall performance improvement across the organization. What we announced on Monday is something called Insights. And what insights does is it takes this intelligence at this level and brings it to the business to make strategic business decisions. That's enormous. It provides the organization with those analytics, so they can look at their organization, look at the competitors, look at what customers are saying about new product launches, look at information about what's being communicated across organizationally, across teams, and it gives the organization at any level, executive on down, the ability to see the data, listen to conversations and react as a business, key elements in driving the success and leveraging and utilizing AI to do that. Let's take a look. [Presentation]

John Finch

executive
#9

And at the end here, what you see are summarizations, but you are able to -- what's not coming up is you're able to interact with this, just like you would ChatGPT or any other AI tool to be able to ask specific questions. And it's going to provide you with feedback and information and blurbs as well as links to that information, so you can go listen to calls, view the dashboards and create your own intensive insight search into the product and into the areas of your business. So we've had a significant impact, obviously, since this product has been in the market for quite some time. Obviously, Insights is brand new. We have a number of customers in beta right now with us. But these are some of the customers that are currently using RingSense now called ACE. Endeavor Capital is one of them. They're increasing sales performance by using ACE. REE Medical has realized about a 300x increase in monthly call audits. So being able to go in and auto score conversations to improve sales performance. It's pretty huge. And then Brookstone Windows has also been able to analyze 100% automatically of its customer engagement calls, both inbound and outbound calls and improve those quality of those engagements. So you can see a lot of customers are using it already to leverage and utilize improvement of their business overall. And with Insights, we can see there's a whole lot more that customers will be able to do. So stay tuned for more customer references on what the new Insights product will provide. Now let's jump back a little bit and talk about RingEX. So obviously, on the tree of life, I'll call it, that Vlad had brought up, RingEX was the beginning for us. It is our business -- AI business phone system. It's the core. It's the PBX in the cloud. We've had great success with this product. And what we announced just today with a press release that went out is we announced the customer engagement bundle. So for lightweight or informal contact center solutions across the organization, those are individuals inside the organization who have other day jobs. They could be an accounting. They could just be with the front desk person; they could be anywhere inside the organization. When a call comes in for customer service or sales, they're able to answer those incoming calls. And so on top of this, this is a bundle that provides, number one, call queues, which is the ability for these calls to come in and the organization to set up a queue based on specific needs. So one could be customer service, one could be sales, one could be name your favorite department and bring those all the way across to be able to have people answer those as they're able to within their day job. In addition to that, we've provided some contact center type functionality that provides ultimate contact center solution on top of this. And what this is, is wait time and positioning queue. And this functionality is if an individual calls in and is in wait for a queue or an agent to pick up, they will get an estimated wait time, and they will also have the ability to hang up and have the solution call them back and they'll never leave their position in queue. Most of us who have had engagements with large contact centers have realized this experience. You probably all remember it. But now for informal contact centers, for every organization, for those 1.2 million that Vlad talked about, they have this solution as well. Additionally, there's an SMS inbox solution. Many of our small businesses leverage and utilize SMS or messaging more frequently sometimes than voice or as equally. So we see communications both inbound and outbound with SMS messaging for obviously, confirmation of appointments, for promotions, for other things, we all get them. This is a shared inbox that provides the capability for the organization to manage all of those communications. The ability to do that is significant because these smaller organizations needed one place to do that management, and it provides their ability for queues and other elements to come together and provide that informal contact center capability. On top of this is reporting and analytics, a necessary component to running an effective contact center solution. And it's not about analytics after the fact. It really is about analytics in real-time as well as after the fact. So having all of these features and functionalities inside of an informal lightweight contact center solution, we call customer engagement bundle. Also of note, all of our customers that currently have RingEX can leverage and utilize what we call boosters. They can add independently these solutions to their existing RingEX from RingCentral. So they don't have to go to the tier, which is an encompassing of all of these features for a price, but they can go and add boosters to certain users that they'd like to add that are already part of the RingCentral solution. Let me show you what this looks like. This is a short video. [Presentation]

John Finch

executive
#10

So what you just saw there was the full bundle, the full suite of capabilities. It includes all the AI solutions we've been talking about up to this point today, including RingEX, AIR and ACE, call queues and SMS messaging. So all these features and functionalities lead to an AI-first customer engagement solution end-to-end for our customers now in RingEX. One of my favorite areas is customer engagement, obviously. And customer service has been a very important component for RingCentral. It is, as Vlad said, one of the fastest-growing new native contact center solutions in the industry. We ascertained more customers in one first year than any of our competitors ever did. This doesn't come without a ton of work and thinking about how the solution works end-to-end to provide a formal contact center. And the industry has been around for a long time. But for us to come out with a solution that is native as part of the RingCentral suite of solutions that provides 20-plus digital channels and includes voice, it's simple and easy to deploy, as Vlad said, and it's also priced just right. This adoption comes together and provides some great success. Now the one thing that makes this product significantly unique is that it is AI-first. And so every stage of the customer journey that we've gone through already, which I've gray out here, AI receptionist, we saw that at the front door answering the interactions that come in. We use this in an informal contact center type solution, which you see with AVA, being there to help and assist the informal agent and the employee. And then we saw ACE with business intelligence. And all of this is part of RingEX. Now let's talk about CX. But since we've already gone through AIR and what she can do at the front door at the beginning of the conversation to handle the interaction before it ever gets to human, let's talk about AVA Agent Assist and AVA Supervisor Assist during the call, what that does for an agent and how it helps to improve customer satisfaction and then after the call, let's talk about what ACE and the part of ACE that is Workforce Engagement Management, which we also launched on Monday and how that all works. So let me break this down. First, with RingCX AVA Agent Assist. This is a solution that provides agents with real-time guidance. It's pulling information and providing it to the agent with the right information at that right moment. So it's not a flood of information. It's not a script. It's not something where they're going to have to go and dig for the information, have long pauses with a customer on the line. They are able to see that information on the right-hand side, and I'm going to show you a demo right away that's listening contextually to the conversation, pulling information out from the knowledge base or other integrations that exist within the solution to provide that agent with the right information in real-time. It significantly improves customer satisfaction. We continue to see the adoption of our customers using this and requiring this in RFPs and other conversations that our sales teams are having at small, medium businesses and larger businesses that we utilize and sell RingCX to, and it's reducing handle times and increasing customer satisfaction overall. AVA Supervisor Assist is also pretty amazing. This is a solution that provides a supervisor the ability to save an interaction before it becomes a problem. AI at the forefront of this solution allows a supervisor to have a dashboard of every single agent in their mix. They will be identifying each of these callers as they're on live calls or live interactions with the ability to notice if there's sentiment or other components of the conversation that are driving this to potentially going south. It will signal that information on the dashboard and the supervisor can click on that interaction and bring that information up and see a transcript in real-time of the call, a note summary up to that point during the call and be able to listen, whisper and barge into the conversation where necessary. It ultimately saves interactions, customer interactions in the formal contact center before they ever become a problem. And finally, RingWEM or Workforce Engagement Management. We've done a lot with this. It's become a very robust solution that provides what we've announced a year ago, which is quality management and the ability to score every single interaction that happens with an agent and automate a scorecard behind that, and it's a quality management process that exists in the contact center world for many, many years. But what we've done with this is -- we've improved it by automating it fully with AI to provide a solution holistically where AI will do this for you for a supervisor, send this information to the agent, and you'll see this in the demo because I know it's a lot. And it will automatically provide a score for the agent for improvement activities. This is how you drive customer satisfaction, improvement in learning, along with what you saw with Agent Assist. Secondarily, interaction analytics. This is part of ACE, and this provides the ability for any contact center to understand customer satisfaction or CSAT at any moment. Only AI can do that. Most of the time, getting to a CSAT score was very difficult. And as Kira mentioned in her slides, our support organization actually is utilizing and leveraging this to improve customer satisfaction. We're seeing those gains, as Kira mentioned in her talk. And finally, workforce management. We made an acquisition in September of a company called Community WFM, and this rounded out our suite, which we now call RingWEM. This is a competitive component in the marketplace for us. It differentiates us holistically. We now compete with the likes of some very large contact center providers that are out there. We are a force to be reckoned with. Let me show you what this end-to-end solution looks like across the before, during and after experience of a contact center. [Presentation]

Unknown Executive

executive
#11

That is RingCX. We're proud of the customers that we've attained. There's been significant impact across these organizations from saving 10 hours per week in what was once a manual process of coaching and scoring interactions to saving those 10 hours is huge in any size organization, especially a formal contact center where you have 50, 100, 200, 1000s, 10,000s of agents. San Diego Symphony leverages RingCX to improve call abandon rates and really have seen an improvement in how people are buying tickets and decreasing hold times by 95%. It's really an effective solution across the board that provides them with that overall capability that we just saw. And Novatek is leveraging ACE or what we call AI quality management to automate the coaching as well. And they've seen a 20% improvement in customer service interactions on a daily basis. So if you think about the number of agents that are answering that and the revenue associated with the Symphony, that is a very big deal for them. So we've had quite a conversation, and I want to thank you all. We've talked a lot about what we're doing today in terms of the leadership that we have in Agentic voice AI. Additionally, we covered what Kira and I represented in terms of the AI announcements with AIR, AVA and ACE. And I also introduce to you the CE bundle and the details, customer engagement bundle for RingEX as well as our new RingWEM or Workforce Engagement Management. That's all I have for you right now. What I would like to do is let you know that we have a 10-minute break. So feel free to run around, use the restrooms, and then we're going to come back in here and pick up. Thanks, everybody. [Break]

Unknown Executive

executive
#12

Thanks, everybody. Everybody, if we can take a seat, we're going to get started with the second part of our big show here. So that was pretty impressive, right? It's amazing what I can put together in 2 weeks, right? No. Obviously, a huge thanks to our corporate marketing team and such for putting everything together. It was -- it's fantastic to be able to share all this with you. So now we're going to -- as we said earlier, we're going to go ahead and get started with giving you more insight by talking to some customers, some channel partners and some global service providers. So with that, I go to introduce Akshay, our go-to-market guru, if you can join us on stage.

Akshay Srivastava

executive
#13

Good morning. I'm thrilled to be here today. Just by way of introductions. I'm Akshay Srivastava, and I have the privilege of leading RingCentral's go-to-market organization, bringing together direct sales, channel sales, professional services, customer retention and most recently, our customer support organization. Now when I told my wife and my daughter that I was taking on customer support for RingCentral, my 16-year-old's first reaction was so dad, you really can't hide from all the customers you sold to. And I said, yes, that's kind of the point. We're bringing it all together in service to the best customer experience. Look, I've been with RingCentral for a little over 6 years at this point. I've worked in a variety of functions across the company in service to improving customer experience, partner experience, growing our revenue base. And that's been incredible. It's been incredible to see how the company has evolved and how our customers and partners are evolving with us. And as we evolved into RingCentral 3.0 that Vlad spoke about, the next chapter will require us to transform our go-to-market organization. It is all going to come down to customer experience. We're going to have to organize around the end-to-end customer experience, and we're going to have to do it with our amazing products and our AI innovation. We are 3,000-plus folks in my organization at RingCentral. Every single person is at present using our NPI products, our new products and every single person is using RingCentral's AI products. We are operating at scale within RingCentral using all of our products. And we're doing this in close partnership with our customers, our channel as well as our GSPs, or global service providers, that Homayoun will cover later. We have over 0.5 million customers that we're proudly serving today. We have over 16,000 channel partners that we work with. And all of this is happening globally. Our global reach is helping us accelerate our innovation and get our products out there better and faster than ever before. Now today, you will hear from the people who are making all this real. You will hear from our customers. You will hear from our channel partners and you will hear from one of our newest global service providers that Homayoun will introduce later. To start us off, Denise Lund from IDC will be coming on with our customers. From Envision Radiology we have Andrew Benson, Liesl Perez from Axis Health, and we have Paul Rapier from the Detroit Pistons. What's interesting about all of these customers, number one, diverse set of industries. It talks about that reach, that diversity in industry and vertical that we provide as a company. And secondly, all of these customers are using RingCentral's multiproduct portfolio, and all of them are using our AI to better improve their customers' experiences. So without further ado, please welcome Denise, Andrew, Lisa and Paul.

Denise Lund

attendee
#14

Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the RingCentral customer panel discussion. I'm Denise Lund, Research Vice President at IDC covering worldwide unified communications and telephony. Today, we're exploring how integrated employee and customer engagement solutions are redefining business communications. The 3 amazing panelists we have here today will talk to how the accumulation, combination and integration of all of the RingCentral solutions are working for them in each of their industry verticals. Before we get started, we'll -- in the topics, we'll go through a brief introduction. So start at this end.

Andrew Benson

attendee
#15

I'm Andrew Benson. I'm the Chief Innovation Officer for Envision Radiology. We own and operate 60 outpatient imaging centers across 6 different states.

Liesl Leary-Perez

attendee
#16

My name is Liesl Leary-Perez. I am the Co-Founder and Chief Growth Officer for Axis Integrated Mental Health. We are both Colorado Biz Magazine's Top Startup of the Year and also Denver Business Journal's top philanthropist or one of the top philanthropists.

Paul Rapier

attendee
#17

I'm Paul Rapier. I oversee the IT department as VP of IT for the Detroit Pistons.

Denise Lund

attendee
#18

Thank you. So let's get started. We'll start by first looking at an IDC conceptual graphic that really sets the stage for what we'll discuss today on the panel. The headline here is that integrated employee and customer engagement solutions are defining and redefining the future of unified communications. What this means in reality for our businesses here today are that organizations are no longer treating employee collaboration, employee productivity as separate from their customer engagement activities. These aren't silos in the organizations here, and that's thanks to the solutions they have at play. IDC's research points out that this integration isn't just a technical evolution. It's a real tangible growth opportunity for all of the companies we have here and how they run their businesses and what their futures are. Businesses can create more seamless experiences as AI wraps around the employee communications solutions and the customer experience solutions and the newer, very exciting opportunity of the integrated unified communications and customer experience modules and solutions. With this, businesses have improved outcomes, positioned themselves for success in today's highly competitive market. This slide here is an IDC graphic from our research that really highlights the importance of thinking holistically about communications with AI, and AI is really included throughout. It's not just underneath or up above all of these solutions. It's really woven throughout. And that's a very great point for our conversation today. The last thing I wanted to share before we dive into the discussion topics, the market outlook that IDC sees is impressive. In 2024, the unified communications customer engagement market generated just $350 million, which is notable, but just $350 million. And it's projected to grow at a remarkable 41% CAGR by the end of the forecast period you see here, reaching $2 billion in 2029. And that's just one piece of this massive market opportunity. The rapid expansion that you see in the CAGR highlights the increasing demand for solutions that unify the communication channels, streamline the workflows that we'll hear more about today and deliver better experiences for both employees and customers. So as we dive into the discussion, I encourage our panelists here in the audience to consider not only the technological advancements, but also the strategic opportunities that each of our panelists have experienced and lived in their verticals.

Denise Lund

attendee
#19

So let's -- thank you for joining us. Let's get started. We'll start with our Detroit Pistons. You're using practically the entire RingCentral portfolio from EX to CX and to events and AI receptionists. Can you talk a bit about how bringing these products together has changed the way your teams work, how they serve customers?

Paul Rapier

attendee
#20

Yes. I mean, originally, our journey with RingCentral started 6 or 7 years ago, 7, I believe. The goal there was to help us transition from our headquarters in Auburn Hills down to Detroit, closer to our new arena. It allowed us to take our on-premise phone system and communicate with our fans from anywhere, whether it be at the arena, at the headquarters, or around the road. It started there. And as we have grown with RingCentral, keep adding products and all of those products are integrated well together and allow us to just stay connect to all of our customers. So regardless where we are and just keep adding whether it be like an event or an AI-driven sales call, or just a meeting all from the same app.

Denise Lund

attendee
#21

Thank you. Thank you. What about the transforming customer experience, I think we're going to want to lean into what's the biggest difference that you've seen, Andrew, at your -- within your company, in your customer interactions since you've rolled out RingCX?

Andrew Benson

attendee
#22

Yes. RingCX has been transformational. We really struggle from a call center standpoint. And then when we adopted a RingCX, we really solved a lot of problems right away. It's so easy. It's so simple. I think John highlighted a lot of things on the page, but it really is that easy. You don't need a big IT department that's managing it. You have the people that do it every day that are running that. So we've really been able to give a lot of autonomy to our leadership to run their teams. And so with RingCX, whether that's setting up special call queues, or routing, or the various different options, everything that we have done has resulted in lower abandoned rates, better agent handle times. We're seeing better agent utilization. And then all of that to say that our patients are happier. We have extremely high patient experience satisfaction scores. That starts with that first phone call because in healthcare, still a lot of phone calls. So we set the stage upfront with RingCX, teeing up the information to our agents. They have a good patient experience upfront, and that sets the stage for a great patient experience all through the life cycle of their journey with us.

Denise Lund

attendee
#23

What about the inbound and outbound and abandon rates and so forth? Can you tell us a little more about that? I know that's super important.

Andrew Benson

attendee
#24

Yes. So we take about 12,000 total calls a day between inbound and outbound. Abandon rates are consistently under 1%. Handle times again are low on our outbound reach, most agents are achieving anywhere from 120 to 140 outbound calls a day. And then on the inbound, again, it's maybe a 4-minute average handle time, 3.5 minute average handle time, but our agents are on the phone, 65% to 70% of their day. So we're getting maximum performance from our agents with high patient satisfaction.

Denise Lund

attendee
#25

That's great news. Yes. That's good. And I guess lastly, we'll kind of spread the conversation around here and move to Liesl. But one last question for you. In terms of hiring and onboarding and training folks coming on to your organization, how are you finding that your RingCentral solution is helping you, Andrew? Yes. We'll move -- Liesl, please. Thank you.

Liesl Leary-Perez

attendee
#26

I think the ease of use is actually one of the things that's the best part about RingCentral. And especially because for small business owners like myself, and especially in healthcare. Most of us didn't get into this business to run a call center. That's not our bread and butter. We're certainly not good at IT. That's not the point. And so one of the parts about RingCentral that's made it so easy that training the AI has not been the biggest challenge that I thought it would be. And in fact, it was so easy to use that our receptionist was the one who actually went and started training AIR. And I think you have that same type of experience. When you think about the technology companies that have scaled the most like Zoom or Canva. It's because it was that easy to use that anybody could do it, that it got wide adoption. And I was happy to see that our employees are happier because it's taken a lot of the tedious parts out of their workload out of the equation, they can actually focus more on training the AI and making it better and better.

Denise Lund

attendee
#27

And I think that goes to what Paul is saying, really, when it comes together, those employees in the back, right. Desks are able to work better because your front customer-facing employees can.

Paul Rapier

attendee
#28

For sure.

Andrew Benson

attendee
#29

Maybe one comment on AIR about how easy it is to set up AIR. Like we had an executive assistant and a receptionist setup AIR for the company. It's not IT personnel. It is who's your experts that's dealing with those phone calls every day and having them actually do the setup themselves, which I think is still empowering to give them that ability.

Denise Lund

attendee
#30

Yes. And to be able to have the self-confidence, right, build after all that, this technology is really usable, and it works well together and so forth. That's great. So can we talk a little bit more about RingSense and then in RingCX plus RingSense? Do you want to talk a little more about that?

Andrew Benson

attendee
#31

Yes, I can take that. I think so RingCX and RingSense all, it's now ACE. You guys changed on this. So RingSense and RingCX is like this magical combination. I think RingCX has really empowered us to have high performance, like I shared with our agent performance. But then when you combine that with all of the insights that come out of the RingSense data, we now understand not only how are we performing from a number standpoint, we understand how we're performing from a satisfaction sentiment, all this analysis that we would never do without AI. And all of a sudden, these tools are available as like, oh, 100% of our calls are being analyzed. 100% of our calls are being scored. And then we've actually been able to create customized scorecards per call type to analyze those costs. So 100% QA. I mean, we were lucky to do 5 calls QA per person in a month with human staff. And so we just freed up all that human capital to go focus on other things, and have a tremendously better experience from an overall performance. I guess it's really just been a life-changing addition to our RingCX platform.

Denise Lund

attendee
#32

And that's clear, right? We all have experience with health care organizations in our daily lives. So it's clear we can see that value. And the Detroit Pistons, are you also seeing that in your industry with the Ring products?

Paul Rapier

attendee
#33

Yes. We deployed RingSense. I think we're probably early adopters earlier this year. We had it integrated with our CRM. It was saving all of our sales agents' hours of time, capturing their notes, but more than that capturing the entire call transcript and then uploading that to our CRM. Right now, we are in the middle of -- still working on our CRM transition. So we haven't got that working the way it was, but we're looking forward to that continued benefit as soon as we get that deployed. But also the managers like Andrew mentioned, helping them identify sentiment analysis and he's helping them identify calls that need the most coaching, just better service our customers and our agents.

Denise Lund

attendee
#34

I know that for my study of the industry, it's a unique time right now with this suite of Ring products is that they can apply to each different industry without too much strain, right, on your IT and so forth, your office staff. So that's great. So let's shift gears a bit and Liesl, we'll start with you this time. I know you've been seeing some quite impressive outcomes with AIR. What kind of difference has AI receptionist made in your day-to-day operations?

Liesl Leary-Perez

attendee
#35

It's made a huge impact. I think one of the things that we were most impressed with was the fact that there's two kinds of people who call into my clinic. There's your average patient who just wants to get their ADHD meds and needs to get their appointment with their providers so they can be monitored, and they really don't need to have a whole conversation. And then there's the desperate mom who just wants to see there's their kid, or their spouse or whoever smile again. And those people need time to talk to someone to help navigate that entire journey of mental health, insurance, how much is in costs, what are even the options. I have been with both of those people on the same day. Not -- a true story. And so when I start thinking about AIR, I start thinking, really, the biggest impact it's made is that it's allowed us to scale impact and empathy to people who really need to talk to somebody. And allow all of our other calls to just -- I can see how many text messages are sent every single day with the link to schedule because you can schedule online. The biggest aha moment for me having come from high tech for most of my career was that people don't schedule online for doctors' appointments. Even if they can, they still call in and want to talk to the front desk. So for me, being able to just see all of the checks that go out with the online scheduling link has been impactful and has made us far more efficient, which means we can take more new patients, and because they need that conversation and that reassurance that, yes, we can do something more than meds. Doesn't just have to be another pill. We can actually -- we're not just going to help you reduce your symptoms, we can actually help you go into remission. And that's a conversation that is not ever going to happen through AI. But what AI lets us do is prioritize those conversations quickly.

Denise Lund

attendee
#36

That's really great. And Liesl, you had something unique, right, where you've worked on other tools and then come back to the RingCentral tools. And I found that to be a really interesting twist.

Liesl Leary-Perez

attendee
#37

Yes, I think -- well, I have an interesting background because I spent 9 years in generative AI, and I understood how to train AI. Most small business owners like me will not know how to do that. And so -- and because of that, I have AI in pretty much every part of my mental health business. I have AI charting. I have AI in our CRM, answering questions. So whenever I've had to train an AI, not the easiest. Not my favorite part of the job, a lot of other platforms you have to do the question and answer. Each FAQ at a time, it is painful. And you don't -- you have to really think about what is it that the patient is asking for. I mean that's where RingSense is actually really, really helpful. It gives you a great idea of what to do. But with AIR, it was -- it's like a great beginner AI, right? If you're going to start -- because I actually went out and bolted a bunch of other things onto it afterwards, but it was the -- it's the core platform that manages all the other communications that we -- and we have very specialized needs being in mental health, being in healthcare, EHRs are crazy. But because it was so easy to train, as I said, our receptionist did it essentially. And it's really helped our front desk team become the growth and innovation center for the company. I always say you don't want a crappy chess player like me, training your AI if you're trying to create an AI that can do chess. You want like a Kasparov, you want some Russian Grandmaster doing it. And -- but for us, the grandmasters are the front desk. They're the first point of contact for a patient. They're the person who's going to see that patient go through their transformation, they're the friendly face. They know what needs to happen to scale that impact. And so the fact that it was so easy to train and that the experts were the ones training AI receptionist, that's what really has sold it for me.

Denise Lund

attendee
#38

Yes. And Paul, I know you mentioned when we were chatting that you've had a similar experience setting up AIR and working with kind of that balance of non deep AI and AI and so forth. Yes.

Paul Rapier

attendee
#39

When it comes to AIR. Right now, we AIR deployed to our help desk, or IT help desk which actually built out. We also built out AIR 4, our main ticket sales number. It has not been deployed yet. Still waiting on approvals on that, but I'm hoping to transition that to the people who actually answer the phone as well because I agree. I think I mean, it's amazingly easy to set up. But once we get that deployed, I look forward to them adding more insights based on the questions that they get that are most common and taking that lift off of the contact center.

Denise Lund

attendee
#40

That's really great. And Andrew, what are you experiencing with this?

Andrew Benson

attendee
#41

So one of the interesting things about AIR is that when you try to sit down and to Liesl's point, put all the information into it to handle calls correctly, you very quickly realize where you have a lack of standardization or a lack of understanding of your process. And so adding that AI step into even setting it up, illuminates all these potential gaps and you start to realize, well, how are people actually answering the phone? What is going on here? And then for us, if you can go back to RingSense and you can say, okay, let's look at all of these calls that have happened and how they've been handled. And then how do I move that into the AI receptionist. There's a lot of aha moments like, oh, we're not consistent here. We're not standardized there. Look at these ways that we're doing this differently. And then it forces us as a business to say, okay, well, we really have to create consistency. And so we use that data to then go back to AIR and say, how are we going to have this call answered? How are we going to have this call triaged? How are we going to respond to this in a certain way? And so it's really highlighted process gaps and that forced us to convert those things to say how are we going to solve this and then that's how we do that with AIR.

Denise Lund

attendee
#42

That's great. I'm sure employees and customers appreciate improvements in processes, yes. Well, all the qualitative and process and operational benefits. So let's talk about [indiscernible]. Have you all been seeing in action with RingSense? Are there -- some examples each of you could share where you've experienced real results from the AI? Thinking time saved or better insights we've talked about, but time save, measurable ROIs, those tangible proof points that everyone here would love to learn about.

Liesl Leary-Perez

attendee
#43

Yes. So I can get started because one of the challenges we had was trying to book appointments. Small business as many are and just answering the phone and getting people scheduled can take a long time. And again, the big aha moment from me was like, oh my God, people actually call to make appointments. They don't just book it on their phone, which I had never even really thought about. And so what I had figured out essentially is that by implementing AIR, we [indiscernible] about 40% more intakes every single week than we were when we were just answering the phone with people. And I take -- I think because people just didn't abandon the process, they were like, oh, they didn't answer the phones, so I'm not going to book, or I'll book with a competitor even worse. And so that actually helped us when I calculated out LTV at the low end, not even at the high end because you don't necessarily know what every customer is going to do. But we are generating about $1.6 million more in revenue because just simply because we are now able to book more intakes. It's probably more than that, in all honesty, but it's hard to know. And it's also helped us make the justification for doing our first acquisition. We actually bought a competitor because we have the confidence to say we can fill you up pretty quick. No problem. Don't even have a question about that anymore. And obviously, that extra money helps cover those expenses in buying a competitor. But those are real results that came from...

Denise Lund

attendee
#44

And your system actually broke, right? The processes because the amount of calls?

Liesl Leary-Perez

attendee
#45

Yes, I did a burst test where I said, okay, let's see how many people we can get in? And we have a -- you can get in within a 7-day guarantee and we're past that now. So I had to turn off marketing. But in the experiment of doubling the number of calls we were getting per week, I did notice that AIR is taking about 30% of our calls. I mean -- so that's 14 hours that no person needed to touch the call and that person would serve -- or yes, about 70% of those calls are going directly to -- it's transferring it to the person that needs to transfer to. It could be billing. It could be prior authorization, it could be -- I just need to leave a message for my provider. But yes, that's a huge amount. It started off at 24%. So about 1/4 of our calls were being handled by AI. Now it's -- I'm seeing a steady rise over time. So as more people become used to it, and there's a bit of a learning curve for patients. Because they're -- again, they're used to like I just want to talk to my doctor and it's like, you can't do that.

Denise Lund

attendee
#46

Yes. That's good. It sounds like they keep coming back. So that's great news. Andrew, what about in your case, the API lookup and what kind of benefits changeable results has your organization experienced?

Andrew Benson

attendee
#47

Yes. So we have RingCX is hooked up into our practice management system. So when a phone call comes in, we look up the phone number, and we pulled back any patients to potentially match to that so we can present that information to the end user. But not only that, but we route those calls to special cues. So for us, being in multiple states, multiple just from an types, different complexity, we can intelligently route calls to the right people. So not only do we have better efficiency in terms of our performance, but we're trying to get mostly patients to the best person to take care of them. So through that look up into our system, we can say, oh, this is a really complex case. Let me get this to my best scheduler. Or I look up and I say, this is my most simple case. Let me get to that to my new hire. And so it's kind of interesting we can actually protect our new hires to be successful faster by shielding them from these complex cases. And at the same time, if you give a complex case to a new person, they're probably going to screw it up, and then the person on the other end of the line is going to be unhappy. So I think it's exponential in terms of customer satisfaction, but also employee satisfaction.

Denise Lund

attendee
#48

And it's so hard to overstate the importance of consistency across all of that. And Paul, I wonder if you can talk to some of the benefits of that integrated solution on your end?

Paul Rapier

attendee
#49

Yes. I mean from an AIR perspective, like I mentioned earlier, we don't have it fully deployed to our main contact center, but it is on our help desk. And it's answering a lot of basic questions that we get in our ticketing system, just to kind of take that off of my team. But yes, I mean we're continuing to build out AIR for our main contact center number, and I look forward to those kind of results because being able to move calls based on what they're looking to buy or -- and then filter that based on who it's going to, like whether it's a new hire or a senior person. I mean that's going to be amazing. But yes, in RingSense I mean that's what we've been running the longest, right? The time saved there is really just capturing the notes in that transcript of that call and making sure that it gets applied to the correct CRM record. That has just been huge for us.

Denise Lund

attendee
#50

Yes.

Andrew Benson

attendee
#51

Maybe could I add a point on that. So there's lots of numbers flying around, but there's a lot of like just some objective human element of this, too. And employee satisfaction is high, but I would say our supervisor and leadership teams have seen the most impact from all these different solutions, especially with RingSense, now ACE. Having 100% scoring, we actually have some of our agents every week, they evaluate how they perform. So we've actually put some autonomy back into the frontline staff hands to say, go look at how you're performing. Go review performance, identify where you can have improvement. And so it shifted a lot of that burden off the leadership team. And so now the leadership team is focused on outcomes, accountability, expectations, performance, and they're not stuck dealing with all of these more menial mundane tasks, we freed them up to focus on things that are going to make an impact to the business. So I'm really excited about the insights thing, John, like can't wait to get like that's going to be huge. And so by having our leadership team spend their time focused on insights, rather than focus on all these other smaller ROI efforts, I think that, again, is going to be -- I've said the word before but transformational for our business.

Liesl Leary-Perez

attendee
#52

Yes. And if I just want to add on that. We've got Paul here, who is in IT, and that's your background. And my background is in marketing. And I don't know for any marketers out there, but how many of you have been like, I'd love to do that, but I don't want to talk to IT. That sounds really hard. But the fact of the matter is we can collaborate more now because it's like, okay, I know this is what the customer needs, and now I know how to actually implement it because it's easy. It's easier to understand, and that makes -- and so then you can again shift more work on insights and executing it faster.

Denise Lund

attendee
#53

And I think everybody -- I mean, I know from my experience is everybody's validated more and where they want to grow as -- in their careers. So I think we've got those softer sides to it. We'll wrap up here because we'll be pulled off the stage soon. Looking ahead, the future of AI and CX. We're looking to hear from everyone about where you think your business is headed, your individual business or your industry sector, what do you see as the biggest opportunity to keep expanding AI and automation and how do you see RingCentral playing a role in that. Start with...

Paul Rapier

attendee
#54

Well, I mean, RingCentral has already been helping us innovate in all communication spaces over the last 7 years. So I just look forward to all these new products that I learned about today even. But I think like every other organization out there, we want AI and like every department and every section of our business to help improve efficiencies and processes for both employees and the applications. So yes, I just look forward to everything growing.

Denise Lund

attendee
#55

Right, Liesl?

Liesl Leary-Perez

attendee
#56

So I was actually texting my ops director when you were talking about the lightweight customer call center, and I said, guess what we're doing next week. So that's really exciting. I think there's a huge opportunity. I had worked at TTEC at one point. I had called all of our competitors when I was looking to enter -- to create a call center. The nature of mental health, however, prohibits really trying to outsource this to another country. And so for me, we're going to be using AI really to be there more for the individual and scale personalization to the moment, not just the demographic.

Denise Lund

attendee
#57

Great. Andrew?

Andrew Benson

attendee
#58

Yes, I look forward to growing together. When I think about RingCentral, I think there's exceptional products that's paired with exceptional people. And I get really excited about growing together and taking healthcare forward. I think healthcare is always so far behind. And I think especially in customer experience, across patient experience, how can we drag the industry forward to say this is the future today that we can take advantage of? So I look forward to faster calls, faster resolution, faster schedule times, everything that's fast. In healthcare, you need answers now. And I think that starts and ends with communication, right, from the very first interaction to the results that you get. And I think the before, during, after, RingCentral hits all of those marks. And so I think it's us figuring out how do we align at every one of those touch points and make sure that we're maximizing the performance for our patients and for our employees.

Denise Lund

attendee
#59

That's great. Now I want to thank our panelists for joining us today. It's been a great discussion. I know that from my perspective at IDC, I've been studying this unified communications, employee engagement, customer engagement market for quite some time, well over a decade there, but in the industry well over a few decades, and it's moving fast. It really is a fast time, RingCentral is right in the sweet spot of where we see a lot of innovation and where our panelists are seeing real results. So thank you.

Akshay Srivastava

executive
#60

All right. Huge thanks to Denise, Liesl, Paul and Andrew. No greater validation for all this innovation, than from our customers themselves. Next up, I'll be welcoming on stage Zeus Kerravala, leading industry analyst along with 2 of our key channel partners, Joe Rittenhouse from Converged Technology Professionals, also known as CT Pros. And Mike Schoenholz from ARG. What's interesting in working very closely with Joe and Mike is, obviously, it's been a long relationship with them. They've been with us for several years. But I talked earlier about customers and partners evolving with our product portfolio set. And this is a great example because both of them are now adopting the full stack of RingCentral's products. Besides the business side of the relationship, and we love doing business with them because they do a lot of business with us. I think what really draws us to working so well with these two fine gentlemen, and some of our other channel partners as well, is just a great amount of customer empathy that they bring. They truly care when things are not right. I will get text and calls very, very quickly. And we together will get on it, and we will make sure that the customers are situated well. And I think that's what we really look for in a partnership. And the other thing that both of them bring is a great amount of candor and input into both our go-to-market models as well as our product road maps. The energy that they bring and the input that they bring makes us better as a company, and so very, very proud to be working with both these individuals. Please welcome Zeus, Michael and Joe.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#61

Okay. Well, they made Denise stand, but I'm going to sit.

Akshay Srivastava

executive
#62

All right, you guys get up here.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#63

While they're getting set, I'll just do a quick and run myself. I actually overlapped with Denise. We were both at Yankee Group at the same time. And so I'm a long-time industry analyst. I'm an independent one. I don't go as deep into the numbers and things as Denise does. But I tend to cover a lot of emerging technologies and trying to understand how it affects a lot of infrastructure and things that this is certainly part of it. This is a space I've looked at for a long time. And I'm excited to talk to you guys. And I don't know you as well, Michael, but I certainly know Joe, and it's funny to listen to Akshay introduce you how you've evolved your businesses. I first met Joe at a Mitel event, [indiscernible]. So that just shows how this industry has changed. And so just before we get into the questions, a quick intro on yourselves. Mike, why don't we start with you?

Mike Schoenholz

attendee
#64

Yes. I'm Mike Schoenholz, I'm the CEO of ARG. ARG is an IT consulting company. We help customers make thoughtful business decisions and then we support those decisions. After the sale, we represent hundreds of technology companies like RingCentral. We'll do 2,000 RFPs, 8,000 engagements, resolve tens of thousands of tickets on behalf of our customers. I recently heard from my team that there was a new CIO at a longtime customer of ours. We came in and presented the relationship that we had and bottomed through some of the archives of decisions that they had made in the past that he goes. So you guys are kind of like my longest tenured employee. And we said, yes, kind of, yes.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#65

Well, if you do the job right, you should be. And Joe?

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#66

Thanks for having me. Joe Rittenhouse, CEO of Converged Technology professionals. We focus primarily in UCaaS and CCaaS deployments and consulting, and that's now become Agentic-AI consulting as well. So it's a budding business. We're focused narrowly on what we do, and we only work with the Gartner Magic Quadrant leaders.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#67

Yes. And I'm going to start this off talking about a little bit of Wall Street sentiment. I know I've talked to a number of you in the audience and just to complete my bio, I guess, I came out of Wall Street, was an IT pro at a Wall Street firm. So I kept a lot of those contacts. And I do interact with a lot of primarily buy-side firms but also some sell-side firms. So if you want to hit me on my LinkedIn and talk about the space after, let me know. Now it's interesting, the -- we came out of the pandemic. All these companies were riding high. The bear case thesis on this market right now is that AI is going to just tear the heart out of the market and kill all the seats. The bull thesis would be that it drives utilization up, right? And so even though we might see a net decline in the number of, say, contact centers, you should see an increase in utilization because of AI. And so I'm curious, from your own business today, what are you seeing? Where -- what's the truth there?

Michael Shonholz

attendee
#68

Yes. So we're certainly more on the bull side. It's consistently about 35% of the new projects that we get engaged in. We haven't seen a drop-off in that. If anything, we've seen an increase from our historical engagement on CX and contact center, where, again, those were 3, 4 years ago, really what you would define as an agent in a contact center. And today, we're seeing that definition change pretty drastically. Tell another story a few years ago, one of the members of my sales team came to me and said, they talked to the CIO, and we're in the middle of going through a renewal. And he said to the salesperson, he goes, what number did you call me on? And he goes, called you on yourself. He goes, right, what do I need these seats for anymore? And I'd actually argue that way of thinking is dead, not voice, just because all the capability that you heard here from this morning is not capable. You can't take advantage of it. And we heard from 3 panelists just a moment ago, increased C stat, increased revenue impact, better reporting, better analytics, better insights to drive the business. None of that's possible without the voice. So we're seeing a big uplift in leading indicators, and we're seeing consistent growth across the business.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#69

And Joe, how is your business done?

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#70

It's crazy. It's a great business.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#71

Dark here when I first met it.

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#72

But I think in general, there's a lot of appetite. And I think what we saw traditionally through the pandemic was we just have to get to the cloud. And we have to get to the cloud, and that was the destination, okay, we got to the cloud. You have your end user training effectively and everything is working properly. But now what we're seeing from this Agentic and all these AI tools and everything that's coming there is the C-suite is actively engaged and they're setting business strategy and understanding of like what's the pragmatic approach of how do we get there? How do we -- and where we're starting is kind of what they talked about at the pistons, like start small, like start small and go fast, fail fast. But you can do -- you can solve for areas that you weren't traditionally solving for before. So password resets within IT or FAQ questions for HR, like getting that sentiment, getting your organization comfortable with these bots and then slowly figuring out what that maturity path is as you deploy it, but the innovation that's coming behind it, it's wild. And you do -- and the voice component of it is like not just sentiment analysis, but SMS and just being a critical transport. It's like water, and it's a precious transport that you need to really understand what it does.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#73

Yes. And actually, you brought up C-suite, and so I have that question later, but I'll bring it up now. When I -- between an IT Pro and doing this, I was actually at a VAR. And historically, this stuff has been sold to communications professionals, contact center buyers like that. I know in the prep call, we all talked about how the buying center for this is changing, right? It's not just your traditional telecom sale anymore, CEOs and CIOs and Chief Experience Officers and Chief AI Officer, they're all interested in this now. And when I think about the early days of Ring, the value prop, Vlad and I talked about this, right? It's a lot of like-for-like replacements, right? Just let's get off-prem and go to the cloud. You talked about that. But today, it seems like this is a much more strategic area of purchase than it has been before. Any thoughts on that, Joe?

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#74

Yes. I think it's really understanding with the different businesses that almost everybody has a sense of fear of missing out, right? And so there's a couple of acronyms there of like FOMO, but it's moving fast. We have budget. We got to go, go, go, go. You dump it to IT and IT is like, well, I don't want to screw it up. And I'm not sure really how to execute this. And so just seeing kind of that evolution of like we are pulling in different departments and being kind of a liaison to the IT team to say like, we need to go have some discovery with this unit, this leader. We need to go have some discovery with this business unit and really just kind of compartmentalize of like how can these different tools work. It's not a broad application that you just pull off the shelf. It's uniquely built to fulfill the needs of those individuals. And so the C-suite engagement for us has expanded tenfold, but the execution on it is the most important piece, and that's what RingCentral is doing a great job of.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#75

How about you, Mike? And what's the C-suite looking for today, which makes that buying so it was even just a few years ago?

Michael Shonholz

attendee
#76

Yes. So I don't know that who's touch -- most IT budgets aren't growing. In fact, most of the time, when we walk in, they are saying they're staying the same or they're going down slightly, but they're shifting a larger percentage of those IT budgets to things like AI because everybody is asked to do more with less and increase productivity. What we're seeing more often than not is IT might be leading the conversation, but there's an entire education that has to happen internally. And as you start to develop the use cases, you have to start bringing in different lines of business, different stakeholders. And this isn't just the C-suite. These are the people actually doing the jobs. We heard that today is the most appropriate person to train an AI receptionist is the receptionist. It's not. So we've got a customer they're in the big machine parts. They do green machines and yellow machines. They're in the farming and big industrial machines. First step there was IT-led just overall education. So they brought everybody in and just said, what is the art of the possible? What is some of the things that these tools can do and accomplish. Then we sat down with that team and just said, okay, no dumb ideas. Just literally like what are some of the things that you can do, not just to gain efficiency, which has a cap, but also gain productivity, improve customer experience. If you think about the way that their customers interact with them, they've got seasonality out in the field. They also have people like me who bought a zero-turn radius lawn mower in the same line as the person who has to get the seat out of the ground. So they've got some seasonality in their business. Understanding how their customers interact was a huge, huge component, and you had to bring in cross stakeholders into the room to start talking about identifying those use cases, the minimum viable products to generate the ROI. So we're seeing it expand significantly and not just in the C-suite, not just in the technical resources, but all the way down.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#77

Yes. And so there's no doubt that AI is really, I think, going to be the transformational effect on this industry, bigger than cloud was. And everyone's got some interest in it. I'm curious, though, start with you, Mike. What's the motivation for customers today as they look at AI? Is it cutting headcount? Is it trying to improve customer experience? Is it trying to improve sales? Like what are they looking at today? They can't do all of it at once, right? And so what's the near-term...

Michael Shonholz

attendee
#78

I think it's a little bit of everything. I think everybody is trying to get to the holy grail, which is increase revenue and increase productivity. I can give multiple examples. We're working with a health care organization right now where they've defined ROI for every 20,000 MRIs they do, they got to hire 4 more people to process through those. So they're leveraging AI in the way that they ultimately process those where they're now looking out ahead and saying, okay, we could do a like-for-like replacement of the existing system or we can start impacting the productivity of the existing resources and get more for less. Now does that mean there's going to be less agents or less seats to sell? No. There's going to be more capability in the hands of the employees that are there so that they can be more productive as they go.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#79

Yes. And do you think about that thread, right? Because that is one of the concerns I know investors have. is the impact to the number of seats, right? And so what do you see there? Like -- because every conversation I've had, nobody can hire enough people.

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#80

Correct, right? And so I think there's a bunch -- there's so much here. There are so many narratives like it's impacting business. But I think when we were first kind of going into it, and it hasn't been that long, right? But there was a general sentiment of like I can reduce FTE counts, I can do this, I can do that. But a lot of the organizations we get through these deployments, they're not reducing the FTE counts. They're finding the ROI in other areas and soft areas that they weren't aware of. And so like we talked about it of like the organizations that are having success with this is having a human-in-the-loop type methodology of how much more can we do efficiently to then try to get to that end user. And so we're not seeing like a big headcount like repurposing people. There's efficiencies and we're giving confidence back to these people with the coaching and the intelligence, their confidence is coming out, which is providing a better user experience. But some of the other things that you're seeing is like just uptime and ramp time for these organizations, especially within contact centers, almost every contact center deals with some sort of turnover or some sort of attrition, and it's ever changing and it's always.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#81

50%, 60%, 70% in some cases.

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#82

Yes, right. In some industries, that's ridiculous. But even in the really strong contact center organizations that have good deployments, they're still dealing with turnover and that capital is a lot. But with these tools that are coming in, now you can ramp agents faster, they can be more assimilated to the product faster and you have real-time coaching that a supervisor never could do at that scale. And so it's every business is finding alternative soft costs that they didn't know what was there. So starting these engagements with these customers, we sit with them is you don't need a grandiose budget and you don't need a grandiose plan. Let's just -- to your point, what's the art of the possible? Tell me what you want to accomplish, and we'll tell you how we can start, start small and then execute.

Michael Shonholz

attendee
#83

I'll just add one more thing there because I think it depends on how you define a contact center agent and where that capability now exists within the technology stack. So we work with a super regional bank. We get 600 locations. And super regional, in their branches, they've got branch employees that are cross-trained across all their product sets, but they're pretty -- they've got high points and low points in the day, beginning of the day, launch where they get waves. Otherwise, there's many of those hours are sitting idle. So being able to go do campaigns, TCPA compliant, being able to get those calls then routed back into that branch and essentially make those branch employees in their downtown contact center agents, adding all the capability that used to be simply reserved for a dedicated contact center, outbound, inbound contact center, drastically changes. Now those now weren't contact center agents 2 years ago. Now they're contact center agents.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#84

Yes. Well, that's one of the things that really excites me about this and Vlad and Finch both talked about the informal contact center use case.

Vladimir Shmunis

executive
#85

100%.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#86

Right? And so by building more automation in, by building more AI in, you can take capabilities that were historically reserved for formal contact centers and deliver them to schools and things like that, right? And so...

Michael Shonholz

attendee
#87

About that opportunity. 100 contact center agents to now 2,600. Yes, totally different opportunity.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#88

Yes. And so how are you seeing that, Joe, the informal use case? Because you've got a pretty wide mix of customers, big and small.

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#89

Yes. So like we're seeing it from all over the place. But to your point, like schools, when we're looking at like strategic verticals and looking at our government facilities or health care. Health care is an easy use case. Finserv is an easy use case. And there's low-hanging fruit almost across every business. But some of the stuff that I'm seeing of just within large government or large school districts of we have a demographic that has 50 different dialects as they speak. And we have someone that has to try to answer that call. And you go through that, it's a painful process.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#90

If you do that without AI, though.

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#91

But you can't, right? So you're using translation services, a horrible experience, you finally get through it and they call the wrong place, they need to get to the lunch lady. And you got to transfer that call and they have to go through that experience again. Like just -- there's so many use cases that are just popping up of like automation and how can you be efficient and provide that better use case. It's -- every business has an opportunity. And it's really just sitting down and saying like where are your pain points. But again, going back as a leadership perspective within these organizations, this data is now consumable. You can understand what it's doing. You have a dashboard to your business that you never had before. And so this becomes a really critical piece of data that's going to continue to be fine-tuned and you're going to continue to adjust.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#92

Yes. And so to me, that blending of UC, CC and for that informal contact center takes what -- when you think back to the UC space a few years ago, we were friend in the commodity, right? And now there's just a lot more value built into that, not just for the contact center agents but for employees. And so now we're pivoting back to value-driven selling versus just who's got the cheapest product, right?

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#93

Yes. It's all about value, right? And it's easy to equate the value. And again, it doesn't take a robust project to start. It doesn't take a large PSO. It's just understanding like how do you define success? What's the criteria? Let's start small. But once that inertia momentum starts going, that crawl, walk, run attitude, like off you go.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#94

Yes. The other trend that I want to touch on, and it was one of the first things Vlad brought up is the voice renaissance that's going on, right? And so I've read a lot of stuff in the media voice is going away. And when you think about just the way you interact with brands, a lot of what you do initially is self-service, but then somewhere along the lines to kick back the voice. I actually think that just from just a usability standpoint, voice is the interface we're all built with or born with, right? And so we don't talk to things today because the interface because the experience has been kind of bad. But now with these Agentic tools, it's gotten so much better, right? And so...

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#95

And there's a preference to talk to bots...

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#96

So what's your thoughts on the whole concept of the voice renaissance coming?

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#97

Yes. I think just in general, it's not going anywhere. It's just becoming more robust. These tools that are layering on, on top of these voice platforms like what we're seeing here is just giving you so much more capability that you need those interactions. And if you want a human in the loop, then you have a human in the loop. And if the customer prefers a bot interaction, then we have a bot interaction. And it's really about meeting the customer where they're at in their journey, and understanding like the tools can adapt to where you're at. But I think Mike will agree is that like there's not one use case that's like exactly the same. Every business is different, and they all have different initiatives, and they're all being applied differently.

Michael Shonholz

attendee
#98

I'll give you an internal use case. We've got 30-plus years of data on our customers. Like I said, we've got an expectation archive of every decision they've made, maybe even from CIO to CIO. We've got lots of trouble ticket data. We've got thousands of RFPs and pricing requests that we've done. We've got matrices comparing actual customer sentiment requirements against the marketplace. So one of our challenges is like how do we get that data out in front of customers faster and how do we allow them to learn from their peers. Well, without the voice, we've now fully integrated all the voice capability, transcription recording. We've built custom GPTs that are referencing our data set, prior work product, prior proposals. We're then matching that sentiment analysis in real time. So I can say I've had 6 calls with Vlad. Vlad has prioritized through his sentiment, these 5 or 6 things. He's mentioned it multiple times. There's inflection in his voice. He's very excited about it. He's talked about his team and the benefits of the organization. But here's what Vlad didn't do. In other organizations in his vertical and market segment and size that have had the same kinds of requirements that he's saying he had, he didn't mention these 3 things, but all of his peers did, star, you might want to ask Vlad if these are important to his organizations or make sure that they're scoped and price, so you can give him the alternative approach to what he's already thinking about. So just that without that sentiment, without the voice, without the transcription service, you lose something, right? You just lose something.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#99

Well, the other thing, too, with the AI now, voice historically has been dark data. Companies really had no ability to do any kind of analytics on it, unless they had a human manually transcribe things, and you did that in health care and things. But for the most part, your retailer wouldn't transcribe every inbound customer call, right? But now you can.

Michael Shonholz

attendee
#100

Well, to your point, it's like you're only as good as your last engagement, and there was an awful lot of manual effort that went into creating those documents, sourcing the last best conversation or best project that you did. So a byproduct of all this additional productivity and client value is efficiency. It just goes faster.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#101

All right. So let's say we've convinced everybody that the market is going to be there, mostly of voice renaissance. And now let's talk about RingCentral specifically, right? And how do you see them positioned right now? And how -- and this unified stack that they've built with workforce management, engagement management, quality management, UC, CC together, how much does that matter?

Michael Shonholz

attendee
#102

Yes. It matters enormously. I mean having access to the data and the insights across the platform is critical. I think where we've appreciated Ring's evolution is they're not just an innovator, but they're a collaborator. It allows us and even the examples that I've given today, it's like we started in one place, and we're able to grow use case by use case and bring it to them. We had dinner with Joe last night. I mean, he gave a great example with AIR. Once we get to the point we can start going, hey, customers like you who tune their AI receptionist in this way will start to increase customer set, decrease call drops, they more effectively route for some outcome across industry. Those data and insights across a unified platform are really, really valuable to customers.

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#103

Yes. I think what we're seeing is...

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#104

I use the word Frankenstein back there.

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#105

Yes. That's where I was going to go with this is there's a lot of start-ups that are just popping into the market, and they have like all this whizbang tools, and it looks really elegant. But like understanding architecture is the most important thing. And that's kind of where we start with the customers. And we have customers that come to us and say, "Hey, our C-suite bought this AI tool. Can you help us put it in?" No. Like understanding the architecture, understanding a platform, how there's different data sets that can be inherent in that platform. And we talk about it all the time is it doesn't seem to be a good strategy to build a Frankenstein, just bolt-on technologies and bolt-on technologies and everybody's disparage AI tools. You need a singular platform that's processing this. And that goes back to the conversation why voice is so important. But the platform and the innovation that's happening here, the acquisition of the WFM, the robust launch of RCX, the evolution of RingSense, like just even for where it came out, it wasn't that long ago and look what we're looking at today. Agentic tools and agentic tools embedded within the platform are a significant strategic opportunity. And that's what's transforming our industry right now. And so the portfolio that they have, the go-to-market approach that they have and they can clearly identify it. Oh, by the way, it works and RingCentral has been known for innovation and execution. They're just really well positioned in the market over pretty much everybody else in the Magic Quadrant is still trying to figure it out.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#106

Yes. And it's something for your investors to think about, too, because you're going to hear a lot of the same rhetoric from a lot of the different companies in the space ask them, right, that who their WFM is from, who their quality management from. The expression I've used is good data leads to good insights, right? And we know that. And -- but silos of data lead to fragmented insights. And so if you're partnering in this area and this you Frankenstein this system together, you're not getting the value of that unified data set, and that is going to give you fragmented insights. And I think that's really -- I think that's going to be one of the next big changes in this industry to see. I think a lot of the contact center pure plays have largely relied on partnerships for a lot of their kind of adjacent functions. And I think that winds up becoming Achilles heel down the road.

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#107

Yes. And they're missing some core functionality just again in...

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#108

So when you think about -- like you work with a number of companies. And when you -- and I'm sure you hear this, we have this AI, we have that AI. How do you really evaluate the quality of one AI versus another AI?

Michael Shonholz

attendee
#109

A little bit of trial and error along the way. I mean, luckily, we've gotten to see across 4,000 customers and lots of both deployments that have gone really well and deployments that haven't gone so well. I mean we're engaged in the community as well. So we're pulling on each other's here every once in a while saying, "Hey, how did this work? Did you -- have you deployed the solution? What do you think?" But it really starts at the beginning, understanding the customers' requirements, documenting and putting on paper, establishing KPIs for what they've defined as success, understanding where they are at current state, really processing through different approaches that might be available to them. By the way, do nothing is an approach that we should talk about the strengths and weaknesses to so we can establish that as not the path forward right out of the gate. So we just believe assumptions drive conclusions. So if we can document really good assumptions, then that will help our job when we go out to this vast marketplace. And again, there's more ways to deploy IT today than there were 6 months, 12 months ago. So really documentation, conversations, stakeholder engagement, making sure you got it document as best as you can.

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#110

What was the question again?

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#111

Well, just when you -- as you deal with all these different companies, how are you trying to evaluate one vendor is the ad versus another? Like how do you actually should demonstrate that it's better. And I'll give you just a data point from a survey I did. I asked people like, would you switch vendors if they had demonstrated better AI and like over 80% said yes. But getting to that point where you can demonstrate it is difficult, right?

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#112

Yes, getting to the point where you -- it's really kind of what Mike said is like the devils in the details. And so discovery, discovery, discovery, like our job and our business has transformed to be considerably more consultative than it was turning a screw driver and putting in a solution and giving you training. And so it's really just understanding of like what do you want to achieve, how do you document it and how do we define success. But we're seeing a ton of failure across the market in general. I think like the latest Gartner report said there was like 90% failure rate of Agentic AI deployments because they're not platform-based. And you have to go standardize on an LLM or you have to go standardize on a speech-to-text engine. And you hear that in your sales process, but the customers are so wowed by the art of AI that when you get into the devil and the details later in the process, it's kind of like, oh, -- what do you mean? I got to have them. But that's where some of these platforms are really kind of taking over, and that's why RingCentral is really well positioned.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#113

All right. We got 2 minutes left. So one question left for each. ESPNs sit start and cut, right? And so if you think about that from a RingCentral perspective, what are they doing well, right? And let's just do sit and start, I guess. So where are we and what would you like to see them do more of? And we'll start with you.

Michael Shonholz

attendee
#114

Yes, sure. I think they're hunting in the right direction on all of the new product releases. I think that's really thoughtful. It's really well done. I was really impressed with the presentations from this morning. I think you've gotten voice of customer in your product road map and the things that you're seeing individually in your technology stack, we're hearing across our customer base. So I think they're listening to their customers extraordinarily well and innovating in the right place.

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#115

Yes. I think that's -- where you're seeing execution, right? And so execution, there's a message here. It's not just marketing fluff, like these are real business use cases. These are real customers are here. This is stuff that is really in production. There's a good part of even those that are in the Magic Quadrant that have a lot of fluff and they can't have these stories. And so I think what are they doing really well is they understand the market. They're executing very well. But I think also on the back end of like what it means for us as a partner, what Akshay and Brannon and the whole team is doing of like the alignment and how we're sharing best practices and saying, I just had this crazy engagement. You'll never believe what they told me, and just sharing that and just like -- and having more stories because all this stuff is coming to you so new. And you have a lot of brilliant minds out there that are running their business, but they all have a different perspective and they all have different needs. And these use cases are just -- some of them are just mind blowing.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#116

Yes. And not to pick on Gartner. I think that MQ needs a bit of a rewrite though because it doesn't take into account a lot of the emerging technologies. I do think -- and again, from an investment thesis perspective, this industry is, like I said, largely lived on replacement of on-prem devices, for which there's still a lot of, right? I mean that alone is a pretty massive TAM. But what I find interesting about this market is for the first time really in my career, communications is being looked at as something that can really, really transform a company, right? It's not just pick up the phone and answer it. It's become more proactive, be able to anticipate customer needs better, be able to personalize better, right? And so historically, when we just had agents just answering inbound calls, they didn't have the data to do that. Now there's so much data with which to look at. The hard part is just trying to figure out what it is you want to look at. And I think the opportunity for Ring and actually, for the partners to me has just never been better.

Joe Rittenhouse

attendee
#117

Yes. It's a great opportunity, and there's a lot of momentum ahead.

Zeus Kerravala

analyst
#118

Well, dinners on you. All right. We are at zeros here. We are. And so a round of applause for Joe and Mike here.

Akshay Srivastava

executive
#119

Thank you, Zeus. Masterfully done as always. Michael and Joe, thanks to you as well. I think you're seeing a theme here. I think what's interesting is when you get the customer validation and the partner validation, it sort of creates this network effect where you've got 2 parties now advocating for your products. And you take that with the engineering scale and product scale that -- which we're developing and you multiply that with the 16,000 partners that we have, the possibilities are endless. Now earlier in my presentation, I talked about the global service providers and the great acceleration and momentum that we're seeing in that area and Homayoun will be on shortly. And joining him will be Jeremy, who is the Senior Vice President of Customer Experience and Operations at Cox Communications, our newest global services provider. So please welcome Homayoun first. Thank you.

Homayoun Razavi

executive
#120

Okay. Hello, everybody, and I'm told that I have 15 minutes, so I'll try to wrap it up. Thank you for being here. It's an exciting day for us for you to be here at this event and everyone who's maybe listening to us or watching remotely. So first and foremost, let me just explain global service providers, there are thousands of service providers out there. And my team and I, we have built this unique relationship and partnership with them. And this is based on the trust of working with them over 40 years. And therefore, what we have done over the time has actually helped us to be here. There is no one else that can actually build a partnership with service providers without actually selling them a product. It's one thing to go and sell product. But here, what we're doing is a true partnership. It's a partnership that we both are putting the best that we have to make this a huge success. You heard from the earnings, you heard from Vlad, Kira and Vaibhav. The service providers growth is double digit. So in our industry, in this industry of UCaaS, and keep in mind, they have not launched any of our NPIs. Double-digit growth in UCaaS, where market is not growing in double digit. Now of course, starting now, as you heard, with one of our partners, AT&T, they have launched RCX, they have launched AIR and they have launched ACE. So this is huge. We're going to repeat the same thing and continue to launch the NPIs with the 15 service providers, and we are expanding and adding more service providers coming up in the future. Now I have the pleasure of having one of our latest partner that joined us at the beginning of this year, launched the product. So I'm going to ask Jeremy to join me on stage, and I'm going to play a video that they actually put together for their market and its advertising that they have been running since we launched. So with that, let's watch the video. [Presentation]

Jeremy Bye

attendee
#121

I love that commercial for you guys.

Homayoun Razavi

executive
#122

So Jeremy, thank you for being here. And as you all know, Cox Communication is a trusted name, been around. And I'm sure later on, you can ask questions. Of course, one of the things that is in industry, there's a merger going on with Charter. Of course, we cannot ask any questions regarding that. But the combined company would be the largest MSO cable company in the world. With that, perhaps an introduction, Jeremy.

Jeremy Bye

attendee
#123

Thank you, Homayoun. And just a quick intro over 35 years. So Jeremy Bye, Senior Vice President of our Customer Experience and Operations, but covered really all operations for our commercial business unit for Cox Communications. I've been in the industry for over 35 years, started out with Verizon for over a decade and have been with Cox for over 20 years now, covering from sales -- sales operations, sales engineering to network engineering, operation, field services, construction, really have done it all across our business at Cox. And been there from the beginning when we were really just out of the gate to now we're over a $3.5 billion business unit sitting within our Cox Communications unit as well. Always overperform the industry. I would say we're always the top-performing commercial unit across all MSOs, overperforming in our market share in all of those areas. So we're really looking forward to grow together with RingCentral.

Homayoun Razavi

executive
#124

Yes. 100%. So I have 4 questions for Jeremy, which I assume we're thinking what questions you might have. So we'll see if we can match your questions. And of course, you guys can ask questions later. First one is what value RingCentral has brought to Cox with this partnership?

Jeremy Bye

attendee
#125

So great question. I think for us, first, I'll just give you a broader picture of where we started off. We launched in Q1 of this year, and RingCentral really fit a real strategic need within our product portfolio. I have to say -- so I am also responsible for our -- all of our products in development and life cycle for our commercial division as well. So one, we've got a huge base of customers. We're almost 400,000 customers in our base. So we are differentiated by our kind of position with our customers as their trusted technology partner. That's really what differentiates us in the business and why we have overperformed and have such a large base of customers. And I think what we felt we really needed was to have a true best-in-class. And we've launched UCaaS. We're hot on our heels. We're going to launch our -- the CCaaS CX in here early next year. But we really needed that best-in-class solution, which is an omnichannel solution for our customers, which is really next-generation communications and collaboration -- cloud collaboration service. So that was the kind of big picture view as the big value point for Cox business. I think I also wanted to start off with a quick -- just story because our sales folks are always lobbying the product division, hey, we need this, we need that. They have -- there's been a long-term pent-up demand, I would say, to bring Ring on within our product portfolio. We're very selective with our partners. And just to start off, we've been incredibly happy with the level of cooperation, collaboration and partnership with Ring, so to start that off. To kick off earlier this year, we have over 1,000 sales professionals. And I've never seen the level of excitement that we had from our sales folks, like we literally had people, and this is not an exaggeration, skipping down the hallway at the level of excitement that they had to go sell this into their base, but also drive net new customers. So to go back to our big rocks of the value drivers for us, one, we've seen it really help us on our net new growth. It's been a great driver for us to drive net new customers. We already had a really sizable base. But to drive net new, I think, was a fantastic driver for us. It really has been our biggest focus as we have started off for the first several quarters. We're also seeing a lot of strong demand from our base of customers who really are sitting on a lot of our legacy voice platforms today. And they have this need not only for a unified collab solution that sits in the cloud, but the demand for a lot of the AI features are high. And I think even from our small business customers, our base is from small business through a lot of medium, more tech heavy or you can go from law firms to regional banks to very large regional hospital networks or universities, local, regional, state government or some of our biggest customers down to school systems. So a lot of broad coverage there. But the ability to integrate and have the really, I think, mature back-end ecosystem to plug into our customers' existing CRM and their own management and IT ecosystem is a tremendous benefit. It makes it very easy for us to sell in. The customer experience has been great. So that's what I see a lot of it is the demand has really helped us overall. Another area that is me responsible for all of our operations, it has streamlined our operations internally. So we have had some very complex voice platforms that are our legacy platforms that we sell today. We have been able to shrink our onboarding and installation interval. And if you haven't seen it already, we can turn up customers on same day and allow customers to plug and play into their existing handsets and units, which is a really easy and fast turn up. Customer self-service onboarding. A lot -- we used to take probably 1 to 2 weeks is the fastest for some of our older legacy platforms. We can do that in days now, and that's a great selling point for our small business, especially. So a lot of good.

Homayoun Razavi

executive
#126

That's fantastic. So with the launch of AI, I think the question that I think the audience would have is that how do you see expectation for your financial as you continue to expand your financial stability, enhancing it as well as differentiation that the market is expecting from Cox?

Jeremy Bye

attendee
#127

I mean, for us, I can't get into too much of our financials. But I would say we're very happy with our margins on the product where we are -- not only can be very competitive in the market. So we're driving value for our customers really, we can drive this at a price point that's more competitive than some of our legacy platforms. So there's a value there, not -- customers are getting more for their money, which I think is a great story overall. I think for us, it's about the combination of the 2. It's the net new growth that we can drive into our current markets and convince pull customers over, but it's also our ability to sell into our large base. So I think that's the biggest drivers for the value for us. But hopefully, that...

Homayoun Razavi

executive
#128

Yes, for sure. So just for the audience to know, Cox Enterprise has been around for a very long time. They have family-owned and there are many divisions within Cox. Of course, the ones that we are right now talking about is Cox Communication. But anyone who has been a customer of Cox Communication, and I used to be one myself, that really the customer first and customer satisfaction is super critical to the Cox family. And that has been the trend for all of the Cox services up to this point, the question of as you launch more AI with the same level of service with the customer first, it's going to continue. Is this a culture that you guys are going to take it and enhance it and move it forward?

Jeremy Bye

attendee
#129

Well, one, thank you, Homayoun, for saying that. I think me being our leader of customer experience, I am fully ingrained in that. It's been a long-term journey. And I think it's been mentioned a few times about voice renaissance. I would say a lot of what I'm seeing, especially with our AI features, it's a customer experience renaissance because I don't know about you, but I -- maybe chatbots are great, but they are hard to work with. I mean I can type fast with my thumbs, but I can speak a lot faster than I can type with my thumbs on my phone. And I think our ability to get to the answer faster. I love some of the points. I'm just kind of driving it off of some of the great stuff that John shared earlier. But lead capture and a lot of those areas, I think, are going to really resonate with our customers. But back to just some of the customer experience points. I think for us, I will take it more from a global service provider perspective. We've been able to improve our customer experience from -- over our legacy products by leveraging RingCentral. And remember, this is from a service provider perspective. Our automation and our platforms, we have really large and pretty significant investments in our legacy platforms and automation. But the integration that we were able to really successfully deploy has helped us go faster. So I also own all of our national fulfillment organization, which is a very large employee FTE-heavy organization. I see efficiencies in my own organization with the speed that I've been able to fulfill our services with Ring versus some of our legacy voice products. So I'm driving efficiency within my own organization, so I can drive my own ability to maintain our margins and speed our services for our customers. A lot of great positive feedback from our customers on the simplicity, the self-serve kind of tutorials and the setup, not only a lot of great support. I mean we've got great professional support for onboarding for our customers from Ring Direct. But the self-serve aspects, I think, are really next level and have helped us I think, made a strategic transformation in our own kind of leap forward in our voice portfolio. It's full collab, so don't get me wrong on that. But the ability to serve our customers better and more efficiently has been a great point that I've seen for our own operations.

Homayoun Razavi

executive
#130

And since we have 3 minutes, last question as far as what expectation do you have for partners such as RingCentral as you continue moving forward with your vision and the strategy?

Jeremy Bye

attendee
#131

So great question. I think for us, one, we being a trusted service provider, we take very seriously. We invest heavily in our Infosec area. And I would say, responsible use of AI. We're integrating AI through a lot of our own and we've heard from third parties, we may be kind of actually further ahead than almost all the other MSOs. But we had to at our scale, like we had to be early adopters. We moved quickly. And hopefully, we'll bring that to the new business as well. But I think making sure we've seen really tight and I would say, very collaborative work with our Infosec teams to make sure we're secure, keep everything private. We cover a lot of industries, including health care and large regional banks. And so you have to make sure everything you're doing is secure. But one, we've been very happy. My CISO and I are good friends, and she wants to make sure we keep it all of that way. So...

Homayoun Razavi

executive
#132

Wonderful.

Jeremy Bye

attendee
#133

Have seen really good stuff there.

Homayoun Razavi

executive
#134

Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you for your partnership. Thanks for being here.

Steven Horwitz

executive
#135

And so we're going to do a quick Q&A. I'm, of course, I forget my boss, right? That's a good idea. But -- so we are running a little bit over time. So if we're going to have time for about 2 or 3 questions. Please do for the webcast -- people watching on the webcast and for the replay, do state your name and where you're from, if you don't mind. If you forget to state your name, we're going to assume you were skipping work just because you couldn't miss the RingCentral event.

Unknown Executive

executive
#136

All right. Can we come up here to Tim, please?

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#137

Great sessions. Incredible improvement to the products, incredible ROIC for the customers, and it seems like it's relatively easy to provision. So when do we really get a real acceleration of adoption of these products? What does it kind of take to do so?

Vladimir Shmunis

executive
#138

Yes. These products are going at speed as is. Again, triple-digit growth sequentially is -- I don't know if there is a quadruple there, but this is as fast as I've seen. But we have a very large ship to accelerate here, no turnaround, just accelerate. And these new products are already contributing multiple points of growth. And obviously, this community, certainly, everyone inside is laser focused as to when do we reaccelerate growth overall. We are extremely well aware of that. We do -- I don't know if we're doing all we can, but certainly, we're doing all we can think of to make that happen. It's just a matter of time for AIR and the rest of the A and RingCX and WEM and all of that for all of this to elevate the entire ship, it will happen eventually, yes. And I think I already mentioned and I want to make sure that it was heard. Our next goal, our goal for new products for this year was $100 million in ARR. We will exceed that. Our next goal is 10% of revenue overall as a company. With keeping in mind that the company is growing, okay? And we believe that we can accomplish this within 2 years at this point. So once we get there, we will set our next goal. But these new initiatives, they seem they feel to me that they have every potential of becoming multibillion-dollar businesses. And you've heard from analysts and you've heard from partners, there is just so much ahead of us, so much still left to be conquered. And we really feel we have the portfolio and the team to deliver. But having said all of that, just please be patient a little bit.

Ryan MacWilliams

analyst
#139

Ryan MacWilliams from Wells Fargo. For AI receptionists, it seems like a logical upsell for RingCentral. For the 5,800 AIR customers you already have, how should we think about what percentage of them are upsell versus net new customers for Ring? And then maybe for Vaibhav as well, how should we think about balancing profitability in the years ahead with increased product velocity?

Vaibhav Agarwal

executive
#140

Yes. Thank you, Ryan, for the question. So in terms of the composition of the new products, particularly AIR, I would say it's around 50-50, wherein half of it is going into the base. The other half is kind of going along with the new sales that we are making. So every new sale of RingCX that we are making, we offer AIR to our customers. So half of that is coming through that. I guess in terms of the trade-off between near-term profitability and long-term growth, look, we'll continue to expand margins. We now have a track record of expanding margins over the last 4 to 5 years. Over the last couple of years, we've been expanding margins at 100 to 200 basis points. I think the trajectory will go in the upper right. By how much, we will provide official guidance in February because we are making investments in these new products, both on the product side as well as the GTM side. Because as Vlad indicated in his presentation in that bubble chart, the opportunity is very large. So we want to be thoughtful about making the right investments optimized for long-term growth while we are expanding margins.

Andrew King

analyst
#141

Andrew King from Rosenblatt Securities. Just as we've seen AI adoption increase, we've seen a real resurgence of the SMB market. Can you just talk to any habits and specifically buying habits that you're seeing within the SMB? And then also off of that, in the recent couple of quarters, we've sort of seen the shine come off of Microsoft. Can you just talk to any attach rate differences that we've seen there in the last few quarters?

Akshay Srivastava

executive
#142

Our experience with the SMB is very much in line with what you've talked about in terms of the trends. Look, I think SMBs are changing in how they communicate with the world. We're seeing new modalities. Vlad alluded to SMS as a major adoption point. We're seeing a lot of that happen in our base. What we're also observing is that they're very, very deeply interested in our multiproduct portfolio, including AI. These SMB sales tend to be super fast in terms of the close rates. Conventional thinking says SMBs are very cost focused and maybe they would be reticent to spend more, but we're actually seeing the opposite where our deal sizes are increasing as are the deals themselves on the SMB side of the house. Microsoft, we continue to see through our direct routing, we continue to see healthy attach rates on the Microsoft side of the house. They're certainly a key partner of ours. So we have not seen any differences on that front.

Vladimir Shmunis

executive
#143

Yes. We get this SMB question fairly regularly, Certainly, every time there is any sort of stress in the economy overall. Look, core belief is the fact, small business is a backbone of this economy. 40% of economy is small business, and that's a worldwide phenomenon. They are the most resilient because why? There's nowhere else to go. If they are out of business, they don't get to feed their families, and that's a good incentive. Small business is a Rule of 40 business for us and is growing in double digits. For that matter, GSPs is also a Rule of 40 business for RingCentral and is also growing in double digits. Interestingly enough, it's not 100% by a long shot. But I would say an easy majority, maybe a super majority, if you will, of GSP sales are also into small businesses in its own right. So we're taking this very, very seriously. We are by no means stepping away from enterprise. But I have to say with our new product portfolio, AIR, et cetera, many people from the panel have noted ease of use, ease of deployment, and it's a game changer for small business because as people already noted, there is simply no support. It is self-service. It is the reception that's getting to configure the auto receptionist. So I love that quote. I'm going to use it liberally moving forward. So yes, hopefully, that answers.

Peter Levine

analyst
#144

Peter Levine with Evercore. I mean 2 questions. One is if you think about some of the conversations with your customers that we heard, there's essentially there's new buyers within the organization buying this technology, but there's also a sense from IT from what I see that there's consolidation. You're buying everything from one vendor. So from your perspective, thinking about accelerating growth, expanding portfolio, like what is the go-to-market change in terms of who you're selling into? Like how do you kind of -- if you think about the AI, like does that change who the buyer is for you guys? And how are you kind of evolving your sales cycle or your internal reps for that? And then one for can you maybe help us understand the pricing model for AI? I know ACE, AIR is, I think, more usage and then AVA. Just walk us through like how you're pricing it, what the pushback has been from customers, how you've evolved and maybe over the next 12 to 24 months, like where do you see the pricing model for AI go?

Kira Makagon

executive
#145

Let me -- Peter, let me try to take this one at a time. So first is the buyer. The buyer is still largely IT from the CIO to the next level. And you've heard from some customers here and partners how they think of buying solutions like ours today. And what's changing is how they engage with the rest of the organization during the buying process. So for example, there are roles now with an organization, especially larger organizations that have transformation officers. And the CIO will now work very closely with the transformation officer because as I described in my examples and you heard from John and the customers, they're perceiving now and adopting RingCentral and our solutions not only to enable in a traditional way communication, but to enable a change in business processes. And whether this is a small business like Access Mental Health, where they need to enable a receptionist and the receptionist has to be comfortable, which actually has always been the case with the phone system. Because the receptionist has always been a major buyer in businesses where receptions have key roles. But across the organization, the fact that now from a business intelligence perspective, a business person needs to evaluate whether this is helpful or not, and this is helpful. And so there's actually more pressure on the CIOs to include the rest of the organization in the consideration process. But also the speed of deployment is key. So during these buy decisions, it's not like, oh my God, I'm going to buy this and now it's going to take me whatever amount of time to deploy it. I want to buy it. I want to be -- enable my communication needs, and I need to have it be providing insights, transformation, and I want the results tomorrow. So that's that. In terms of pricing, so AIR is priced at -- for $100 based -- you get a package and $100 -- I'm sorry, 100 minutes worth of AIR with that and the base price is $39 today. And it comes in multiple forms. If you buy it as a stand-alone product, which is available today, you can attach it to any other PBX or any other phone system, then it's $59 or you can just buy a single package of phone system and AIR and that's $69. All of that is available on our website. AVA today is -- it's a Copilot assist technology. In early availability, it's available as part of the product. So you get AVA with the product. We're not charging anything extra for AVA today, and because we view that as sort of as an essential part of making products more usable, driving adoption, driving discoverability, sort of driving user acceptance and delight in its basic form. Now AVA as an agent assist in contact center, that is being attached to ACX product, and that I believe is $25. Am I right? Jim is saying yes, $25, okay? And there's a number of modules like that, that range between $25 and $15. A combination package of AVA in contact center scenario was ACE becomes something that helps you manage quality, and you can buy that on a stand-alone basis for contact center, you can attach it at $30. Am I getting the price right? Yes, approximately. Okay, $30 or $35. And then WEM package today together consists of a number of modules as we're rolling out new tiers in -- and a little more intricate, you can buy all of these as bundles. So bundles that attach themselves on a stand-alone basis or a full tier, as we call it, so that, for example, you can buy RingCX score at $65 and the price will go up and the more -- the higher the price, the more you get in the package of these AVAs and ACEs attached. So basically, you can have an a la carte or you can have it as a full package. Together, it will go from $65, for example, for CX to $145.

Vladimir Shmunis

executive
#146

So I just wanted to add. So look, we've got lots of products. Many of them are new. Pricing is evolving. Kudos to care for remembering all of the details. But I think the big picture I want people to understand is this. Firstly, vast majority of what we do, people are willing to pay for. Therefore, we are planning to charge for it. Pricing is evolving. A question we get asked regularly, especially from the investment community, is our take on seat-based pricing versus outcome-based pricing. And I maybe want to address that here. So our core products are seat-based. Our new products are combination. They are not seat-based but account-based with overage. We think it's a healthy model. It's a model that people are used to because that is how in our industry, toll-free minutes were consumed for decades, and it seems to be resonating. I also want to point out that when we're counting all of these tens of dollars, we are in the end, allowing people to save thousands -- hundreds of thousands, and we've heard today millions of dollars by via investments of dozens or hundreds of dollars. So that's a game changer. So that, I think, is a big picture. As things go on and the industry matures, I think pricing models will normalize. And again, just given how much savings we are allowing people to experience and enjoy with our offerings, we do feel or at least I feel that even our pricing itself is upwardly mobile.

Homayoun Razavi

executive
#147

I'd like to add something from a different angle. You heard from Jeremy how selective service providers are in picking partners. It takes anywhere from 9 to 12 months to sign a contract with a service provider, just like an enterprise because they are an enterprise that you're getting into. But once you get through that contract, which is very complicated, and that's why I reach out and ask help from John and his team on the legal side because you got to have expertise on how to be able to get to a point that you sign that contract. But once you're there, then now launching new product, it becomes that much easier because if you do not have a contract and they don't trust the vendors or they don't easily bring you in. But once you are brought in, you are in for good, assuming that you deliver on what you promise. So I think that's the other way to look at it, 15 partners, now we're launching NPIs with them, which is something we haven't done until now. And this is going to be the new vector of growth because that contract is in place.

Steven Horwitz

executive
#148

All right. Thank you, everybody. We hope you enjoy the day. We're really proud of being able to talk about how we're leading the voice renaissance here with our AI innovation. So thank you all for coming. I believe there is going to be some demos in the back as well as maybe even some grab-and-go food. So thank you.

Vladimir Shmunis

executive
#149

I just want to add, again, I just want to double down. thank you. So thank you all for coming for sure. Huge thank you to all of the panelists for taking time out of their busy schedules. A number of them had to actually travel here. So deeply appreciated. I can say very, very sincerely, I have personally learned a lot from those sessions. It's obviously extremely heartwarming to see users and partners and satisfied users and partners. But I don't know, my takeaway, we should do it more often. We don't need to wait another 25 years. We will learn a lot. So again, thank you, and enjoy the rest of the day.

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