Zebra Technologies Corporation (ZBRA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
May 24, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Paul Chung
analystGood morning. My name is Paul Chung, and thank you for joining this morning session. I'm pleased to have with me Bill Burns and Nathan Winters, CEO and CFO of Zebra. Welcome.
Nathan Winters
executiveThank you. .
William Burns
executiveThank you.
Paul Chung
analystSo just to get us started, can you, Bill, maybe provide a kind of brief overview of the business?
William Burns
executiveYes, sure. Zebra empowers organizations through our vision of Enterprise Asset Intelligence, which really means giving a digital voice to assets and frontline workers ultimately to provide ability connectivity and then ultimately take the next best action within our customers' businesses. So in that case, it's really about -- you see us in everyday life, you see us in front-of-store checkout with scanning, you see us with package delivery, mobile devices in the hands of packages that get delivered to your home, e-commerce picking, hospital wrist bands or scanning or labels inside hospitals. So in everyday life, you see Zebra is mission-critical to our customers. We've entered some new areas most recently around robotics and e-commerce picking along with mobile devices and robots working together. Machine vision and fixed industrial scanning is a new market that we entered. And then retail software leveraging those mobile devices I mentioned before inside retail environments to engage associates around things like task management, workforce management, collaboration and others. So today, our primary businesses are mobile devices, mobile computers as we call them, scanners, printers, and then these 3 new areas, adjacencies such as tablet, RFID, new areas we're invested in. So ultimately make supply chain smarter and give visibility to them. We make retail associates more engaged and we allow for ease of picking and warehouse and automation in manufacturing antenna.
Paul Chung
analystGreat. Thanks for that. So let's talk about what has happened in the past couple of years, so expand on the business and the step-up of revenues during the pandemic. What kind of drove demand then? And maybe talk about the USPS contract and some of those larger deals that came about?
William Burns
executiveYes, I'd say that during the pandemic, the trends that we've seen prior to the pandemic to digitize and automate customers' environment. So ultimately, some customers accelerated their investments. So they were well on that journey of e-commerce or buy online, pick up in store, omnichannel as we call it within retail. And those that were head on that journey continued to invest during the pandemic. The customers that were further behind invested significantly during that time frame. Those secular trends continue. I would say, the challenge today is really around visibility and retail overall has been pulling back on spending, especially CapEx on large orders has been the challenge that we've seen most recently. In first quarter or other vertical markets, transportation, logistics, manufacturing, health care, all grew in first quarter. But clearly, retail has been challenging. Our large orders have been the biggest challenge most recently. So I think while customers absolutely believe they need to continue to address the labor challenges through technology, they need to continue to invest in technology in their business, they need to serve their customers better through technology. They're making tough decisions in the short term about their business, which is creating challenges around visibility for us, and we guided that in second quarter and full year because of that lack of visibility. I think it's really around large orders. Our smaller orders were continuing to grow in the first quarter. We saw towards the end of Q1, those begin to moderate as well. So it's all really about the macro environment. The trends that we saw through the pandemic continue, people spend more money during that to invest in technology. And now they're holding back based on concerns around macro. And we feel strong about our business. So ultimately, we've been able to continue to maintain or take share across each one of our market segments. We believe we're making the right investments in the right technology areas. We saw places where we were challenged around supply chain, customer loyalty and those customers come back and buy from Zebra. So we feel good about the business overall. But in the short term, we're clearly feeling the challenges around visibility within the macro environment.
Paul Chung
analystGot it. And then as we look beyond kind of '23, you did kind of step up your top line guidance to that 5 to 7-point mark. Is this going to be mostly organic beyond '23? And can we get back into those ridges pretty quickly?
Nathan Winters
executiveYes. We updated our long-term guidance to 5% to 7% over a cycle. And we still believe in that range once we get out of the current economic cycle. And as Bill mentioned, if you look at the markets we serve, whether that's the regions, the verticals, it's a $30 billion market for us across -- whether it's our core businesses, adjacent and expansion. And as Bill mentioned, we're excited about the long-term prospects of each of those. And even in some of the markets where we have a higher market share, we still believe there's segments within the market where we're underpenetrated and have an opportunity to grow our market share even as those -- each of those markets continue to expand within themselves. So again, we're still billing out long-term guide, and we'll get back there once we get through the current economic state.
Paul Chung
analystGot it. And then let's jump right into AIT. So it's performed very well in the past 2 years and even into 1Q. So can you talk about the trends you're seeing in that business?
William Burns
executiveYes. I mean, AIT includes our printing portfolio, our supplies portfolio and then some of our services portfolio tied to that. From a print perspective, we think of printing is really the first place where you give something a digital voice, right? You print a barcode, you print a label that ultimately has an RFID tag embedded in it. That really is the start of a digital journey for an asset within retail or transportation, logistics, manufacturing is we see. So we continue to see growth across our printing portfolio. We see that growing 4% to 5% in the -- once we're through the macroeconomic cycle we're in today, as Nate talked about, the 5% to 7% overall. I think that our printing business has benefited from the acquisition, the Enterprise acquisition. So marrying or scanning and mobile computing portfolio, the print has allowed us to take about 10 points of share over the time frame. In printing, we continue to see loyalty, as I said before, from our customers. So we saw a strong Q1 on the backs of a year ago challenging environment around parts and being able to supply printers, but we've seen our customers come back and just continue to maintain or grow share within that market. Whole range of printing portfolio all the way from tabletop to desktop, to mobile, to RFID printers and we continue to be the leader in that space, and we feel good about that business longer term.
Paul Chung
analystAnd then talk about the relative strength across some of your verticals like retail, logistics and then maybe across regions as well in AIT?
William Burns
executiveYes. I would say that from an AIT perspective, North America and EMEA remains strong, but I think across the portfolio, as I said, we had an easier compare in the first quarter which challenges the supply chain last year. I would say that mobile computing is probably the most impacted by vertical in retail overall, I would say, compared to print or scanning. But again, print and scan had some other supply chain challenges in the first half of last year. So I think that overall from a vertical segment generically, not just AIT, as I said earlier, retail down in first quarter, but the other vertical segments, T&L manufacturing, healthcare were all up across the portfolio. So we feel good about that. I think that ultimately, we're still seeing the weighing of large deals across the portfolio, which really tied more to mobile computing than AIT. The run rate business has continued to be strong in the first quarter, it started to moderate towards the end of first quarter. We're seeing that moderation continue, which put some challenges on our distribution right from a -- we sell through teacher distribution. In that case, when the end markets slow, our distributors pull back a little bit or to pull back on inventory from their side. So we typically see kind of oversized pullback and then they begin to buy again as they get their inventory kind of rightsized for the demand they're seeing.
Paul Chung
analystRight. So you talked about the run rate for AIT has stepped up to that $1.4 billion to $1.7 billion today. As we move through this year, how do we think about that pace for that business? And any kind of key indicators you look for?
William Burns
executiveYes. I mean I think we look at a lot of different macro indicators across the business. IT device spending. We look at spending across CapEx, across our customer base. We look at new technology inflections like RFID that's driving our operating printer business. So there's several areas we look for. And there's no reason for us to believe that we don't continue to maintain or grow share within our printing portfolio. Our supplies are a great recurring revenue stream and attached to our printing business. So we feel good about that. And the 4% to 5% growth rate and an opportunity to continue to take share or to enter underserved markets, as Nate said, there's still opportunities for us. We're not -- we're #1 in the marketplace, but we're not #1 everywhere, and we don't have the same exact share across all the geographies or across all the vertical markets. So that creates an opportunity for the entire portfolio.
Nathan Winters
executiveIf you look within the portfolio, there's the Temptime business, which we acquired in 2019 that does time temperature monitoring. So they can monitor has a drug been outside of its stated range of temperature for a period of time and now looking to embed that technology within our core supplies, whether that's RFID. And we're also seeing a ton of operational synergies. It's now the headquarters are COE for our North America supplies business. So both from an R&D perspective, we're still excited about the future as well as we've been able to generate synergies with that acquisition a few years ago. .
Paul Chung
analystCool. So let's jump in to EVM. So '21 was a very, very strong year. You're seeing some retracement back here and run rate in '23. So what's going on in this business?
William Burns
executiveYes, I'd say that the EVM portfolio includes our scanning and mobile computing portfolio and then the services associated with it, includes our tablet though in the new areas we're investing in. I think we're seeing overall is the biggest challenge is clearly retail, as I mentioned before. And it's really around larger orders or customers. They're still continuing to buy new product. But the large projects we're seeing in new customer environment. And I think the sales teams have had challenges around really visibility of those projects with our customers. So those projects continue to move out in time is the real challenge. We haven't seen customers cancel orders, and they continue to move ahead and complete those orders. You saw Lowe's, despite their challenging environment, they had a rollout plan and they completed that rollout in first quarter. Right now, they're seeing challenging top line, which means they'll likely pull back on CapEx, but they moved ahead and finished that project as they took their earnings yesterday. So once somebody starts a project, they continue that rollout and then they continue to buy after that. But what we've seen is projects being really moved out in time. And then the visibility of when that happens really comes down to our customers making tough economic decisions around their business and saying, "Hey, I've just got to pull back in CapEx. My top line is what I think it's going to be, I'm concerned about the macroeconomic environment weight on that project." That project will come back, and the timing of that is the challenge that we've seen. So I'd say retail is the biggest challenge in our mobile device portfolio today. Our scanning run rate business continues to be strong. As I said, through Q1, we saw -- at the end of Q1, just like our printing portfolio, that moderation continues in Q2. But again, the strength of the core portfolio overall grows to 4% to 5% moving forward. And we feel good about the portfolio we have. We feel good about the share we have. We see it in our competitors' results, ultimately, we're doing better to them. And we see it in the share opportunities, share distributor wallet. So we feel good about our competitive position. It's all about macro.
Paul Chung
analystOkay. Great. So RFID, you called out for relative strength. How large is that contribution today, kind of the margin profile and expectations for that business?
William Burns
executiveI would say RFID today is low single digits revenue for us, but an exciting market. We're seeing RFID move from retail into the entire supply chain and backing up into all the way to manufacturing. So the idea of having more visibility across supply chains is driving RFID opportunity. We've recently had our largest win ever in RFID really a transportation logistics provider that's going to track every package with an RFID label through their system to get the right package on the right truck for delivery to their end customers. So we're seeing it move -- RFID move retail into supply chain, into specific areas of transportation logistics. We're seeing it in things like quick-serve restaurants that. It's all about labor savings. It's all about automatic reads. There's a place for both barcode reading and RFID tagging go together. You still can't eliminate the barcode. You still need the barcode reading on eaches, so you still need it because of the RFID tag, there's not enough RFID readers everywhere, so we get that question a lot. But the idea of RFID, we're the leader in RFID readers today, readers and printers across the portfolio. And we feel good about the growth of that segment. It grows faster than our core markets. That's one of the reasons why you hear us talk about our core markets of 4% to 5%. But then overall, the growth rate of 5% to 7% is areas like tablets and RFID by optic scanning grow faster than our core.
Paul Chung
analystRight. So you mentioned some key partners you're leveraging, but why hasn't RFID kind of taken off more so in your mind, I mean, tags have gotten so economical now?
William Burns
executiveI think that's one of the reasons why you're seeing that RFID continues to be more use cases. Tags have not only come down in price, but also have become more sophisticated, where you can use tags on more items than you could in the past. The reads are better, so more accuracy when reading those. I think that you're also seeing -- we partner -- we have a lot of partners in RFID space across the different vertical markets we serve. And we have a lot of independent software vendors that we work with as well to develop software applications for those. So the inside of quick-serve restaurants, for instance, someone may develop the software to go along with that counting when items come into the back of a quick-serve restaurant. Without that software to enable it, it's an interesting idea, but you really need to be able to track and ultimately have software to support the application of RFID. So I think that we're seeing the use of tags not only in price but also in the idea of how you can use tags today and read rates become more accurate. I think you're seeing more of a need for visibility across the supply chain. And I think you're seeing the adoption of more software vendors writing more code to have applications around it, which is enabling the use cases within our customer environments.
Paul Chung
analystGot it. So how do we think about kind of some of the recurring aspects of your business? You mentioned software. You have supplies and the hardware piece as well. But how do we think about some of the recurring types?
Nathan Winters
executiveYes. If you look at the makeup of the portfolio, service and software represents mid-teens percent of the business, about 15% of the company. Within that, software is low to mid-single-digit percent of the portfolio, which has a recurring nature both in our software contract -- or service contracts as well as the -- or a as-a-service offerings. Supplies, which is, again, recurring like. So once you're designed in, once you win that business, it's a recurring revenue stream. It's about 10% of the portfolio. And then our hardware side, we have a few instances where we have a recurring billing model, but that's a more of a one-off. But again, it has a similar sense of -- there's a replacement cycle for each one of our products that varies based on the product type and use case from several years to a printer in the right environment can last 10 years plus. So it quite depends on the use case and environment where the product set in the portfolio.
Paul Chung
analystGot it. Let's jump to Matrox Imaging. So how is that business now grown? Now that you guys have acquired that business, how successful are some of the cross-selling opportunities have been for that business? And how are you kind of leveraging your distribution channel for that part of the business?
Nathan Winters
executiveYes, I'd say beyond our mobile computing, scanning and print portfolios and RFID where we're the leaders, tablets, where we leave in the portfolio. There's 3 new investment areas that I talked about earlier, some machine vision, fixed industrial scanning, retail software, leveraging those mobile devices in hands of retailers and then ultimately, and then robotics, cobots working with humans in applications like good transport or material movement. So in machine vision and fixed industrial scanning, we did 2 acquisitions in this space as well as in organic investment. So adapt the vision and then in our Matrox acquisitions married on top of our organic investment in fixed industrial scanning. So think of -- fixed industrial scanning market really more focused on T&L. So think of conveyance of fast barcode reading inside transportation logistics and then think of machine vision more focused on the manufacturing area. We feel good about both those acquisitions, Adaptive Vision being a smaller acquisition in the software space. And then Matrox being at the very high end of the market to marry with our portfolio of fixed industrial scanning that we developed out of our scanning team at the lower end of the market, so they kind of converge together. So that acquisition gave us a full portfolio of products across fixed industrial scanning, smart cameras all the way to the very high end of vision systems. It's gone well so far. We're happy with the results we're seeing. We're diversifying that business in some areas. So being a private business, they only made so much investment in go-to-market. So we are leveraging our go-to-market teams around the world and the relationships we have within transportation, logistics and manufacturing. It may not be the exact same persona or the exact same buyer, but we have relationships with those customers today. So we're leveraging that across the portfolio. We're building more channel partners. So we're using a channel partner strategy where we go to, just like we do in our core business, some customers we sell to direct, many we sell through channel partners, and we've got a channel partner program associated with machine vision and fixed industrial scanning as well. So we've been able to sign up a lot of partners today. The feedback early on was, okay, Zebra, your organic investment doesn't quite give me everything I need. It's more in the low end of the portfolio of fixed industrial scanning and smart cameras. I really like to see and partner with somebody with a wider portfolio. That's why those acquisitions made sense. So we're excited about 1 of these -- this is 1 of the 3 expansion areas, robotics, this and retail software that -- we're excited about that marries closely to the -- our core portfolio closely adjacent in those areas, and we can leverage those channel partners and customers that we have today.
Paul Chung
analystYes. If you could just expand on the robotics of Fetch which is also a big acquisition. And then talk about your philosophy of kind of being the one-stop shop for all your needs for automation?
William Burns
executiveYes. I mean I think the Fetch acquisition. What we liked about Fetch was the idea that they've got Fetch core software and think of it as software that controls a series of different robots and different applications. So think of material movement on line sight replenishment inside manufacturing or moving pallets from one location to another or e-commerce picking or fulfillment where you're picking to robots each items within an environment. And we believe, ultimately, customers want a single robotic control system to control multiple different types of robots within their environment as opposed to a point solution. So goods transport was the main focus area for both pallet and smaller goods within Fetch's primary focus area. Fulfillment was an application they're building out, and we're still building that out fulfillment application out. And we're seeing early traction in that. It's a small business today. It's a fast-growing market. We can leverage the mobile devices that are used inside the picking environment today or manufacturing environment today in wearables and others to work robots and humans work together. So that's why we're excited about that. We're leveraging our entire portfolio, as you saw in some of the latest trade shows around ProMat and others, where we're leveraging the fixed industrial scanning and machine vision portfolio, along with robotics together to create solutions for our customers or provide those solutions to our partners that are creating those end-to-end solutions like conveyance and others. So we think that, again, the relationships that we have across T&O, manufacturing, e-commerce today, we can leverage those with both robotics as well as machine vision and fixed industrial scanning. Same goes inside retail. Those relationships we have with retailers that are using our mobile devices, we can leverage those relationships to sell more retail software.
Paul Chung
analystCool stuff. So let's jump into margins. So supply chain costs have come down materially. You're one of the few that have split out kind of the supply chain cost, made it easy for us analysts, but talk about -- how do we think about margins in the range for this year? Can we be in that 48%, even despite some of the pressure top line?
Nathan Winters
executiveYes. Now as you said, we don't have a specific guide for the year on gross margin, but we do believe there's opportunity to continue to expand gross margin, particularly as we exit the year and go into 2024. And supply chain costs like many was a big headwind for the past couple of years. And we did isolate what we called our [indiscernible] were really around what was cost to freight around the world as well as where we're going to go in the market and buy components on the spot market at sometimes 10, 50x our contractual price. And in 2021, for reference, that was a $180 million headwind in the business. That today and for the full year guide for '22, it's about $40 million. So we're starting to see that come back through in gross margin. And we expect that to really dissipate as we go exit the year. And so we hopefully we don't have to talk about it as going to 2024. I think the one thing I'd say just in terms of broader margin, if you look at where we ended our guide for the year at 22% EBITDA, it's about a 50 basis points increase from where we were in 2019. And that's with still about 70 bps impact from supply chain costs as well over the last 2 years, we've had a 150 basis point headwind in FX. So I think both from OpEx leverage as well as the underlying gross margin of the business remains healthy, and we just -- once we get past the supply chain, and again, we feel like there's, again, continued opportunity to expand, particularly as we grow other parts of the portfolio that have an inherently higher margin such as machine vision and software.
Paul Chung
analystYes. So talk about that product mix and how that kind of informs your view of the longer-term kind of gross margin outlook? And then will there be any -- separately, will there be any kind of residual costs related to supply chain in your view moving forward?
Nathan Winters
executiveIt is -- the last one. I don't -- from a residual cost out, as soon as I say, we don't think there'll be any residual cost, there will be some supply disruption tomorrow that would change that view. But as we see it today, a lot of what we need to deliver in terms of improving that -- the supply chain cost, we can control. So a big factor of that is our printing business. During the peak of the pandemic or during the peak of the supply chain challenges, we air-shipped all of our printers where historically, we'd ship 80% of those on ocean. So getting that back on ocean is we're on the path of that. And Q2 will deliver about 40% to 60% on ocean. So that's again something we can control and monitor. What we're buying in the spot market is down to almost de minimis amounts in the second quarter. So -- again, we feel about the controllable aspects we have around the supply chain cost. And this is the first time in a while that we're actually seeing deflation -- mild deflation in our bill of material from our suppliers. So I think we're hopefully over the curve. And again, that's going to be a real driver of margin accretion as we move forward. Look, I think as mix, as Bill mentioned, the expansion business is while small, both represent as they grow and scale and mature real margin opportunity. It's just going to take some time to see it just given the relative size of the business. But again, I think there's plenty of opportunity within the core to continue to expand margin rates.
Paul Chung
analystRight, because Matrox is quite accretive, right? And then just on the OpEx base, you've stepped down the pace here. So where are you kind of cutting back on spend and finding that shoring up profitability there?
Nathan Winters
executiveYes. Just as referenced, since 2019 to where we ended the year in '22, we scaled OpEx by 2 points over that time period. So we did a nice job of scaling the business, driving efficiency as we grew the company and about 1 point of that was in G&A. And we really benefit from a couple of things. One, we have 1 ERP minus some of our new acquisitions. We have 1 distribution network for the entire portfolio, whether that's service, AIT or EVM. And then so here recently, just with the macro conditions. In the fourth quarter, we announced a restructuring plan that's as of $25 million cost here year-to-date, really focused on optimizing our real estate portfolio as well as some modest headcount reductions, where we think there's opportunity to continue to drive efficiency and productivity across the team. But again, we like to think of -- we manage it appropriately in the good times so that we don't have to take such aggressive actions. But obviously, like everyone, we're trying to be cautious around where we're adding, where we're spending discretionary money given the overall environment.
Paul Chung
analystAnd then on overall kind of EBIT margins, talk about the relative strength between AIT and EVM? How will those kind of evolve over time?
Nathan Winters
executiveYes. So I think between the 2 segments, we think there's opportunity to grow EBITDA margins in both. If you look at AIT, a lot of that will come, particularly around supply chain costs. Just given that dynamic of such a heavy burden, they were paying by air freighting heavy large printers moving that to ocean. So they'll get the real outsized benefit of that. And then on the EVM portfolio, that's where we have most of the new expansion businesses. So again, just -- that's where you'll see more of the mix impact. But like I said earlier, they both benefit from each other. So there's not a -- they don't have several ERPs, separate distribution networks. So if one is growing faster than the other, they both get the benefits of that leverage across the portfolio.
Paul Chung
analystAnd then as we think about when scale returns, where can EBITDA margins longer term tap out or expand to? Yes.
Nathan Winters
executiveNo. So we haven't given a long-term guide of where we think the max is or where it's going to tap out. We don't, again, had a -- we don't think there's a ceiling or an absolute max that you can do particularly with, again, the infrastructure we have, how we were organized as well as the accretive nature of the expansion businesses that you get, we think, from an EBITDA margin, have a lot of tailwind as they grow and scale in size. So again, I think there's plenty of opportunity to grow in EBITDA margin.
Paul Chung
analystOkay. Let's move on to cash flow. So how do we think about inventory levels as we exit the year? And any other kind of improvements that we can see across working cap?
Nathan Winters
executiveYes. So from a -- inventory went from an environment where it was impossible to find parts that had long lead times. And if you wanted a part, you had to put a long-term supply agreement in place to -- as we -- really, in the second half, third, fourth quarter, lead times improved just as the same time as demand -- our demand was starting to moderate. So today, we're sitting on probably $200 million more of inventory than we think we optimally need. Most of that is in components, not in finished goods. So this is components that were at our Tier 1 suppliers that will ultimately be produced and consumed. So we have a tiger team focused on it. The team went from finding parts, redesigning to design new parts in to now switching it to redesign to consume the parts we have. I think the team has done a nice job of renegotiating with our suppliers, extending lead times, pushing out, canceling where they can. But it feels like we're swimming upstream a little bit. As every action comes, there's the -- demand started as we talked about last quarter, kind of made that a bigger challenge. But we'll make [indiscernible] this year a little bit longer than we anticipated given the overall macro demand. But it's -- I think we look at that as a real tailwind for free cash flow, particularly as we go into the later part of this year and next year as that starts to come down. And I think overall, when you look at it from a cash perspective, we still target 100% free cash flow conversion for the business. We added that to our long-term incentive plan this year as a management team. So fundamentally, we don't think anything is different about our business. We've seen to work through the inventory cyclicality as well as by 2024, we'll work past the settlement arrangement. That's about a $45 million -- there's $45 million cash disbursement a quarter for the settlement we arranged last year. And then cash tax is a bit of a burden this year with the changes in R&D amortization. So again, quite a few headwinds here in the short term. But again, fundamentally, we'll get back to where we need to be on 100% free cash flow conversion, and that's what we're committed to.
Paul Chung
analystAnd can you remind the audience, when does that $45 million go away?
Nathan Winters
executiveIn first quarter '24. .
Paul Chung
analystOkay. So I'll open the floor up for questions. And I have a couple more here, but seeing if anyone has any questions. Okay. So net leverage -- go ahead.
Unknown Analyst
analystIn the RFID business, are you seeing -- that seems like a secular growth business, are you seeing macro slowdowns and pushouts there? Or does that seem quite robust? And then in your machine vision area, is that -- are you competing with companies like Cognex? Is that sort of -- maybe on the high end, is that what you're going after there?
Nathan Winters
executiveYes. On RFID, we're still continuing to see deployments of RFID despite the challenges around macro. Some of those are in transportation logistics, as I mentioned before, as an example, on manufacturing, which have been continuing to invest, and the biggest -- we've seen more challenges around retail, which already has deployed RFID. So we're seeing the new areas of RFID continue to grow despite the macro challenges. The machine vision and fixed industrial scanning portfolio does compete with Cognex scans and others. So formal competitors in this space. But that space continues to offer long-term growth above our core portfolio. So we think there's opportunities just in the growth in that segment. And then there's lots of -- the market is very fragmented. So while everybody talks about the top players in the space, the fragmentation of that space creates an opportunity for Zebra to play in that area.
Paul Chung
analystPrinting of the tags. So like does the chips and Avery Dennison does something and then you kind of print it in a little package at the -- and a sticker sort of at the local on-premise warehouse and then they put it on the, is that how that works?
William Burns
executiveYes, for the most part. So we are -- our portfolio includes both handheld readers, fixed readers and then printing, RFID printers. The printers are traditionally used for replacement tags. So source tagging is the least expensive way to tag at manufacturing, but those tags sometimes come off, they're ripped off those kind of things, so replacement tags. In the T&L applications, we're actually printing the labels in that application. So it depends on the application. But in retail, you've got it right, where source tagging is typically done at the manufacturer with someone else's tags. And then ultimately, we're printing replacement tags in retail and other applications we are actually printing the tags themselves.
Paul Chung
analystAnd last one, are the margins in your RFID business, kind of the same for readers and printers as the rest of your readers and printers, are they better or are they worse?
Nathan Winters
executiveA bit better, I would say.
William Burns
executiveThey're better.
Paul Chung
analystSo net leverage in very good shape. Where would you be comfortable on leverage levels if the kind of right acquisition came along?
Nathan Winters
executiveSo we've stated that our target is to be below 2.5x debt leverage. So that gives us ample room from where we're at as well as we have the ability to go above that from a financing. But if we were to go above the 2.5x, it would be a very targeted action plan to get below 2.5x within a given period of time. So again, even with that, that gives us plenty of ample opportunity to be acquisitive and look for opportunities with the leverage we have today.
Paul Chung
analystGreat. So we have a minute left. And if you -- Bill, if you want to leave us with what's kind of misunderstood about the story? What aren't people appreciating -- story?
William Burns
executiveYes, I think we feel good about the business overall. I think that as we talked about, our core portfolio around printer scanning, mobile computing, we're the market leaders today. We've got expansion areas that we've invested in sort of close adjacencies in tablet and RFID and others that grow faster than our core. And then the new expansion areas, while they're small businesses for us have tremendous potential around machines in fixed industrial scanning and retail software. So we're excited about the portfolio. We're clearly impacted by the macro environment at the moment, specifically large orders specifically retail today. I think that we'll see a broader moderation of some of the growth rates and visibility remains the short-term challenge that we face. We feel good about the business. I think continue to take share. I think we're continuing to win in the marketplace and beat our competition in places where we compete, but we feel good.
Paul Chung
analystGreat. Well, thank you for your time today.
William Burns
executiveThank you.
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EarningsCalls.dev REST API. Plans from $24.99/month — full transcripts, speaker segments,
full-text search, and the recently-added /api/v1/transcripts/recent polling endpoint for ETL pipelines.