ikeGPS Group Limited (IKE) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
February 7, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Unknown Executive
executiveGood afternoon, and welcome to ikeGPS' investor webinar to discuss the company's performance update for the quarter ending 31 December 2022. On today's webinar, we have CEO, Glenn Milnes, who will go through the presentation posted on ASX and NZX. To post a question, please submit them by the Q&A button at the bottom of the screen. We'll do our best to get through as many of them as possible. I'll now hand it over to Glenn.
Glenn Milnes
executiveThanks, [ Ben ]. And thanks, everyone, for taking the time to hear the update. At the highest level, Q3 was another really solid period for our business. We just continue to grow in terms of capability, and obviously, revenue is growing really strongly. Feel very well positioned as we go into Q4 of this year. So what I'd like to do is pull through these slides quickly. I know a lot of you are familiar with IKE and the story, and then leave enough time for Q&A at the end. So from a revenue perspective, we're at $23.3 million in the 9 months to December, so 134% up on last year. And remember, last year was a big growth year as well, so good momentum. And I think the key thing for investors is to look at the green and the blue part of this chart, which is subscription and transaction revenue, which is recurring and reoccurring revenue from our customers. So it's much higher quality, it's much more predictable, continues to grow strongly. And it's because we've built more software capability, and the platform is sticky for our core customers. Most of this growth is coming from existing customers, so logos that we won 2 years ago or 3 years ago in the groups that keep growing and growing, which is a positive thing. The orange bar in this chart represents closed contracts and the blue bar represents revenue. We have some seasonality in our business because of storms, winter storms, and actually, this year, with flooding in California, can slow down engineering activity. But overall, the trend here is strong. So I think we're very well positioned in terms of Q4 outlook and now starting to cover some of FY '24 in terms of momentum. Similarly, this chart shows transaction revenue, that's the green bar. So in the 9 months to date, just over $14 million of revenue from transaction sources. So remember, our customers -- when we sign up a customer, they pay us a base subscription fee, and then as they use the platform, they pay us a transaction charge or a transaction fee that sits over the top of that. And it's the way the whole industry operates here in the United States. So we have to be conversant with that. So transaction revenue is a really important driver of growth. And you can see hundreds of thousands of engineering transactions happening on the IKE platform and driving a lot of that revenue growth that we looked at previously. And this table was in the release that folks are able to look at, but just solid growth across the core things that we focus on as a business. I think if you come down to the platform subscription segment, number of enterprise customers keeps growing. But we still have around 5% market share in terms of number of customers. So a really big opportunity in front of us not just to keep building inside the businesses that we serve today but also to add more logos over time. This is where I'll really accelerate in terms of the presentation but be happy to cover questions and comments here on this call or afterwards. The market opportunity is just getting larger and it's good luck as much as good management. The -- even climate change perversely is a big tailwind for the IKE business. We just help these groups strengthen the networks and build the networks faster. All this [ storm ] of activity has just increased demand on the electric utility side and the fiber market and 5G small cell deployment side of things is just intensifying. It's certainly not slowing down. We don't expect it to do so. And again, we just help these customers be much more productive in terms of the process to assess and build the network. And you can see in some of these charts, this is CapEx spend for the electric utility market, hundreds of billions of dollars going into designing and building distribution networks. Similarly, the broadband market, the fiber market is just growing in terms of the level of investment. Most of these networks are going overhead on to power poles. And again, that's what we help design and help build faster from a fiber market perspective. So good -- great macro market tailwinds. There's just some more detail here around all of the drivers for electric utilities around aging infrastructure, fiber attachments. They've got to power the electric vehicle market, an enormous shift of energy going into the distribution network away from historical energy sources for vehicles. And we mentioned the communications' macro drivers. Again, this is a 5-year plus macro market tailwind. A lot of the infrastructure going into overhead networks. And we help speed up the process for these groups to get to market faster and sign up the underlying customers and subscribers. And we are continuing to add new and important customers. There's some really interesting new electric utility customers that we believe will close through this quarter and the next quarter. And it matters a lot because these are groups that we signed up some years ago that are now starting to really get to scale. So tracking that number of customer logos is an important leading indicator for us. Take a long-term view. We've got multiple growth avenues. One is around adding new customers, as we just talked about. A lot of our growth at the moment is coming from upselling and cross-selling into existing customers. Again, our goal is to create decades-long relationships with the groups that we serve. We've executed 2 M&A transactions in terms of inorganic growth and continue to look for well-priced, high-value opportunities for acquisitions. And then although it's not in our near-term plan, the international market opportunity is very significant as well. But for the time being, we're very focused here on North America, given that we're still a relatively small company ourselves. We've got a great team. They're all experts around poles and pole infrastructure and the electric utility infrastructure, some really brilliant young people that are going to go a long way in this industry. We're lucky to have the team that we do. We have very low churn in terms of employees. So fortunate to have a great group that -- and a bunch of people that are just coming up through the business and moving from junior roles to now very senior customer-facing roles. Indeed with the leadership team, always trying to optimize our leadership group. But again, a lot of expertise in the North American electric utility market and a lot of expertise in technology. This is a really niche area that we focus on, but the folks we have on the team really understand this industry and its challenges. And it flows right up to the Board. So again, we're fortunate to have a very strong Board of Directors with end market expertise and also expertise in growth, public and technology businesses. I'll go even faster now through our products, but this is obviously where the rubber meets the road, we've got 4 products essentially. Our business model, every customer pays a baseline recurring subscription to access any of our products, they pay additive fees based on usage. And we offer optional value-added products such as IKE Analyze, which is where a customer, they collect the data using our technology. They're sending it back to us into the cloud. We use a lot of technology to process it and then we send them back an engineering product. That's the IKE Analyze business model. So we've got these 3 layers of revenue generation. Some imagery here of IKE Office Pro, the photograph down on the lower left of the screen is there's a poll in our IKE Office software where the field has only had to take a single photograph in the field and someone in the back office can do all of that analysis and interpretation. The photograph just above it are some of our dashboards, we can show -- in this case, AT&T, all of the network projects are performing right down to the productivity of every single engineer that's working on a product. And so it's around a big value proposition is around digitizing assets. It's surprising how few utilities have had digitized records of the assets they own, the infrastructure they own. And ultimately, this is around automation and integration, aging workforce, just enormous work demands, and we help sort of bring part of this process into a very modern context and a very modern CX or customer experience and push things through to items like pole-loading analysis, which is a really time-consuming process today for many customers. Second product is PoleForeman, it's part of the IKE structural product set. It's taking -- if you look at the left, it's taking IKE Office, digitized data, and it's turning it into a CAD model so that you can design attachments and design your network, understand if you're meeting compliance, meeting your own engineering standards and ESC safety codes. So this is the flow-on product. It's used by 5 of the top 10 electric utilities in North America. Some examples there of its capability. Also, an example of the customer council that we have helping us work on the next-generation product, which we're excited about. So that will be released soon in 2023, and we think that's going to potentially have a disruptive effect on the pole-loading market. Lastly, as IKE Insight. So this is applying its applying artificial intelligence and machine learning to analyzing these structures. Again, an engineered utility might cost $100 an hour to be doing work in the back office, and there's opportunities to be automating these items, and that's what we're working on with IKE Insight. This is a complicated slide, but we can take data from any source and process certain get insights and decision-making data from any data source relative to a pole asset. And some examples here of how it works in terms of putting the machine over top of this raw data to deliver some outcomes. And I'll accelerate through Analyze, which we have talked about. And I'll pause there, [ Ben ], for questions.
Unknown Executive
executiveThanks, Glenn. Just a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please do so by the Q&A button at the bottom of the screen. So the first one. Well done on the improvements in closed contracts. Can you talk us through the lead times you're getting from customers? And you've mentioned fourth quarter '23 could also be strong.
Glenn Milnes
executiveYes. So the lead times continue to shorten, and we're working so closely now with groups that it's almost a rolling contract basis. Whereas historically, some of these communications groups were saying -- they're coming at us to saying, "Hey, we've got 9 months of -- or 12 months of work ahead of us," and they're placing a larger contract. Now we're working very closely with groups. And so the recurring revenue piece of things is flowing month-to-month. So that's a positive item. We're finding that the engineering companies, we sell to 3 different -- 3 distinct groups. The utilities themselves, they are quite slow to make decisions. The communications groups can be faster, but they still are very deliberate, like Crown Castle or AT&T. But the engineering groups now are going pretty fast. If there are allocated contracts, they will order. The sales cycle is -- can be very short, less than a week from engagement. So that's really the way it splits out.
Unknown Executive
executiveThanks, Glenn. This question. Gross margin of 53% for the 9 months, which is steady with what you reported at the first half, however, a bit lower than previous years. How do you see the gross margin moving forward?
Glenn Milnes
executiveSo the item to keep in mind on the gross margin percent is the transaction revenue for us has just exploded in terms of growth. It's up 250%. And the nature of some of that business is a customer will collect the data, they'll send it back to IKE, and we'll process it through our software, and then we'll send them back in engineering deliverable on engineering outcomes so they can get on with building their network. Some of that process requires people, and all of those people costs go into the gross margin line. And we're working through the Insight product on automating a lot of that work. So at the moment, it's -- I mean, it's highly profitable, high-growth business. But it does impact that overall gross margin profile. And that's the item that we're investing in, in terms of automation so that we take people out of the equation and replace them with software.
Unknown Executive
executiveThanks, Glenn. Next question. In subscription sales, there was a material uplift in sales per clients. Did you raise prices, and just noting that there was a large uplift in sales that clients remained relatively flat?
Glenn Milnes
executiveIn Q3, we didn't raise -- we've consistently raised prices over the last 3 years. Every time we release new capability, we raise price. But not in Q3, this has been -- Q2 and Q3 has just been usage, so more customers, putting more subscribers on.
Unknown Executive
executiveThanks, Glenn. How much of the $5.1 million cash burn in the quarter is due to a weakening U.S. dollar to the kiwi from October to December?
Glenn Milnes
executiveIt's very significant. So again, the context here is IKE holds cash in U.S. dollars, which is our operating -- it's where we operate, and Australian dollars, which is where we raise capital or have raised capital historically. And so the FX rate, we have to convert it to New Zealand dollars for reporting purposes each period. So it does have a very significant effect in the currency. The New Zealand dollar strengthened significantly through Q3. I'm not sure exactly what the number was, but it's the majority of their difference is FX.
Unknown Executive
executiveThanks, Glenn. Can we please get more insights on the pipeline for new logo wins like there's quite a large utilities in North America kind of win any of the other 5?
Glenn Milnes
executiveYes. I mean we run 3 different sales groups and 3 sales campaigns. And one of them is the utility sales campaign, and it's reasonably straightforward and there's 3,000 electric utilities. You just -- you can see who's the biggest and who's spending the most on distribution and work your way down. And that's entirely what that group is focused on is winning. Now we've got #1, #3 and #5, so we're focusing on #2 and #4 and down that list. So it's -- it requires some patience. But we've seen with groups like Exelon and Southern Company that if you do get through the [indiscernible], then that can really open up over time. So that's a key focus for our sales and marketing organization.
Unknown Executive
executiveCan you help us understand the upside from [ product ] structural? Is there any ability to raise prices for this product?
Glenn Milnes
executiveYes. It's a great question. And the answer is absolutely. We -- as we've signaled here in this document, we're releasing a next-generation IKE structural product. And alongside that, we're -- we've increased pricing very dramatically and put it into a pure subscription model. And so far so good, actually. We've got all of our major customers on board and signing up. So it's a -- again, it's taken some time to -- we acquired that business 2.5, 3 years ago. We've cross-sold IKE Office and took most of their customer base very successfully. And now we're launching the next-generation product as a SaaS offering with some new features and we should be able to, yes, have a very material uptick in terms of structural revenue.
Unknown Executive
executiveHow is the first month of 2023 gone so far? Is it still slow to the storms? And there's a follow-up question, I'll ask.
Glenn Milnes
executiveNo, it hasn't been as impacted with weather. And customers have kind of back, although the United States, it's not like Australia and New Zealand with the whole Christmas holiday period, people still do take time out, I think, and decompress over the end of December and maybe the first week of January. But no, the activity level is really high. I'm actually at the distributed conference in San Diego at the moment, which is the biggest industry event in the world for distribution, electric utilities. It's really vibrant. So I think it runs fully winding back. And we've sold well through the month of January and delivered pretty well too. So feeling good about Q4 and the full year.
Unknown Executive
executiveRight. And the follow-up question from these individuals, will the macro slowdown, i.e., recession reduce CapEx by your customers?
Glenn Milnes
executiveI'll touch wood, I don't know -- but for sure, but I don't think so at all. The demands for the electric grid are just growing so dramatically, aging workforce, aging infrastructure. You got to power the electric vehicle market. So you go from having 20% of the energy in the country on the distribution grid to 50%, I think, in 10 years' time, they can't slow down. All this fiber attachment, they've got to harden their networks. Climate change, more storms, more hurricanes. I just can't see any way that they can slow down and they're regulated utilities as well. So they don't suffer the same ups and downs. And maybe the communications market is different that they can put the brakes on if they don't see consumer demand at the end of building a network. But again, the customers we're working with, even the Tier 2 ones, focusing on these really unglamorous sort of second tier, third tier, rural broadband cities, they're highly committed to building their networks. So I think we're very lucky in that respect. We don't -- we didn't really suffer through the pandemic aside from that, maybe 3 or 4 or 5 months.
Unknown Executive
executiveSo this person is down there. And [indiscernible], it appears the net decrease in cash is a function of circa $5 million in investing CapEx. If so, why? And what did you invest in?
Glenn Milnes
executiveI think, I mean, it was -- what was the first question for most of the decrease is just the foreign exchange rate. When we put our U.S. dollars and Australian dollars back into NZD for reporting purposes. Otherwise, we've actually been pretty -- or very consistent. We are still investing significantly in software development and the products that we looked at, but not more materially than what we had reported in the half year financials.
Unknown Executive
executiveRegarding expansion into new markets, which ones are you targeting? And will that be via greenfield expansion? Or would you consider an acquisition or acquisitions?
Glenn Milnes
executiveI mean the acquisition strategy is to look at capability to support North America and what we're doing here so extend capability or to bring us new customers that we can cross-sell and upsell into. At the moment within our 12-quarter plan, we aren't at the moment looking at significant international market expansion. I think there's some obvious markets. Australia is one, perhaps some of the more developed markets in Asia, makes sense for us. But we're just completely focused on North America. If we do well and execute North America, we're going to build a really big company. And we're still small. We're a 100-person business at the moment. So I think having that focus is important because there's real complexity in owning the space. It's the standards for building power networks. It's not the same globally. It's generally the same, but it's specifically quite different. And this is all around being sort of an outright expert for your customers and being a partner that they can trust. And so it takes real effort, I think, to go into new markets which we will do over time. But for the time being, we're pretty focused.
Unknown Executive
executiveIt's going -- probably have time for one more. There's a few parts to this question. So can you update us with more greater detail on the AI development program like IKE Insight? When are customers seeing these products release? And further, how does this exist in your margins via automation?
Glenn Milnes
executiveYes. That's a good question there. The neat thing is that we have an internal customer and our IKE Analyze offering, product offering, and we're delivering automation into IKE Analyze, which is helping margin and giving us scalability and those types of things. And then this is what we've done with a whole range of product features, not just with the AI side of things. We get really comfortable with quality and quality control and then we're able to package up -- package up that capability and sell it into the market more generally. And that's what we're doing with the Insight function or the AI function at the moment. It's really exciting. I mean, truly, we eventually will be in a position of -- you're doing 90% of what an engineer is doing at the moment at a cost of hundreds of dollars now. So it's a big price and then you multiply that by millions of assets and it's potentially something that's really valuable to the market.
Unknown Executive
executiveSo that concludes the Q&A segment. I'll now hand back to Glenn for closing remarks.
Glenn Milnes
executiveThank you. No, thanks again for everyone dialing into the call and obviously, happy to be in touch. If there is any follow-up questions or comments.
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